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11:40am Friday 17th July 2009 in News
By Adam Leitch, Chief Sports Writer
THE appointment of Alan Pardew as Saints’ first manager under Markus Liebherr signals a clear statement of intent.
Both from the new owner and the team’s latest boss himself.
That statement is quite simple – we believe we can get this club back to the top flight and are in this for the long haul.
Pardew’s track record shows promotions from both the Championship and League One with West Ham and Reading respectively.
Add to that other play-off heartaches – one each with the Hammers and the Royals – and it is clear the man knows what it takes to build a team that can compete in the lower divisions over a long and hard season.
But he has also tasted the high life as well, managing in the Premier League and even guiding West Ham to an FA Cup final.
He was just seconds away from lifting the FA Cup in 2006 when Steven Gerrard lashed in a spectacular late equaliser for Liverpool, who went on to win a penalty shoot-out.
The fact that Saints have attracted Pardew and he has taken on the job says a lot about both the hirer and their new employee.
From the point of view of Saints’ new board, well they pretty much could have appointed anybody as manager – save perhaps Rupert Lowe – and got away with it.
The new owner and his men are the people who saved the club, their stock is high and – as such – whoever they appointed would have been given a fair crack.
In some cases it would take less of a bad spell than others for the grumbles to start reverberating round St Mary’s, but nonetheless the way was clear.
But by going for Pardew they have trodden a careful path that is between a high profile manager whose name will attract players to follow him and a guy who also has the nous and experience necessary at that level.
With Lieberhrr’s cash behind them, the board could have got in any number of big names. But Pardew is a neat balancing act between the leadership and orangisation required to turn around Saints’ fortunes and a man who, further down the line, is capable of managing at the top level if he can get them back there.
It is an appointment that makes sense.
There have been a few managers who have felt League One is a bit beneath them, even at a massive club like Saints.
Pardew, who probably would have got a job in a higher league given time, clearly does not believe that.
He must see the potential.
This is as close to a no lose situation as you get in football.
First season you have few expectations to manage due to the ten point deduction.
Though obviously success in the first campaign would be great, the most important thing is for progress to be made.
That gives you the breathing space of a year, and three transfer windows, to build a squad ready to get promoted in season two.
Few jobs can match that for time in which to work.
Then you have the money – not only the personal package, which will no doubt be decent, but the cash that will be committed in the transfer market.
Even with sensible spending, promised to be at ‘the appropriate level’, it should help oil the wheels of success.
Saints is a club that now cannot fall any further and so the only way is up.
Even though a manager should achieve success in these circumstances, another promotion on the CV is great.
Then, assuming Liebherr’s long term commitment remains in place, you have the chance to take the club all the way back to the Premier League with more money to get to the top flight.
That is all in the future.
But it just underlines that it is a long term job because you are highly likely to need to spend two seasons in League One.
The fact Pardew has committed to that, and the new board have asked him to, shows this is not a plan for a year or two.
Instead it’s much further in the future.
Comments(55)
OvertonSaint
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11:57am Fri 17 Jul 09
SiaS
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11:59am Fri 17 Jul 09
kingsbridge saint
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Hamble Saints
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TedStripes
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Saint Madcap
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GlennCAFC
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12:22pm Fri 17 Jul 09
Saint Madcap
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12:29pm Fri 17 Jul 09
Old Head in Herts
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12:45pm Fri 17 Jul 09
GlennCAFC wrote:Great news!!!
Erm - not a single mention of his huge success at Charlton I see. I wonder why?
GlennCAFC
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12:49pm Fri 17 Jul 09
St Retford
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1:00pm Fri 17 Jul 09
saint ted
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1:12pm Fri 17 Jul 09
St Retford wrote:I think if we can have a good start to the season and eat the 10 point deficit up quickly, I think there is a good chance of play offs. I mentioned in amother story that if (and it is a big if) we find ourselves top half of table at Xmas within touching distance of playoffs, we might be able to attract decent players in the Jan transfer window which could help with a play off push. Remember Leeds just missed out on automatic promotion from this leage with a 15 point deficit!
Out of interest, how realistic do we think it is to reach the play offs this year?
BP
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1:13pm Fri 17 Jul 09
St Retford wrote:Personally on todays squad it is totally unrealistic and maybe even fighting off relegation if we didnt strenthen.
Out of interest, how realistic do we think it is to reach the play offs this year?
St.Yorkie
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1:15pm Fri 17 Jul 09
Burton Saint
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1:18pm Fri 17 Jul 09
St Retford wrote:Tough call but it should be possible. Automatic promotion would be an unrealistic goal before we can see how things go but by Christmas it should be clearer.
Out of interest, how realistic do we think it is to reach the play offs this year?
The_Shotster
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1:27pm Fri 17 Jul 09
St Retford wrote:With the squad as it is I would be surprised if we push for anything! BUT, watch the transfer pages because I reckon AP has already set his sights and hopefully he will hit the bulls-eye!
Out of interest, how realistic do we think it is to reach the play offs this year?
donotappointtonyadams
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1:33pm Fri 17 Jul 09
GlennCAFC wrote:I dont care about Charlton, he is a Saint now and will be successful here because he has tens of thousands fans behind him united as one. COYR lets eat those 10 points up ASAP
No cash?! He spent millions on Andy Gray, Izale McLeod, Luke Varney (that's c.£7m already and that's just the strikers). Charlton in the CCC was completely his own team so low morale was completely down to him if anyone. Not completely to blame of course but a huge huge chuck. His ego goes before anything i'm afraid. See you at The Valley.
GlennCAFC
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1:40pm Fri 17 Jul 09
pawnsacrifice
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1:42pm Fri 17 Jul 09
GlennCAFC wrote:Why are you worried?
You are very very deluded if you think he "is a Saint". He is an egotistical fool who only cares about himself. Us Charlton fans were exactly the same when he took over, as were the Hammers. He'll say the right things and yes, he may get a couple of results but ultimately he will screw your club (and the player's wives allegedely) over. Good luck though.
GlennCAFC
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GlennCAFC
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1:47pm Fri 17 Jul 09
Niemi1legend@northam
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1:52pm Fri 17 Jul 09
St Retford wrote:completely depends on who we bring in. I am a very optimistic fan but I believe that this squad will struggle. Probably mid-tble without the point deduction. So AP bring in a couple of players, but promotion next year methinks
Out of interest, how realistic do we think it is to reach the play offs this year?
pawnsacrifice
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1:55pm Fri 17 Jul 09
GlennCAFC wrote:Thanks for that...just read what you fans are saying about our club.
If you want further CAFC views take a look here: http://www.charltonl ife.com/forum/commen ts.php?DiscussionID= 27435&page=1
Jesus_02
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1:56pm Fri 17 Jul 09
St Retford wrote:Playoffs are as likely as a relegation battle. If you look at last years table there isn’t much between them.
Out of interest, how realistic do we think it is to reach the play offs this year?
Niemi1legend@northam
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1:57pm Fri 17 Jul 09
GlennCAFC wrote:Pardew was not exactly a fan faviroute on your forum, but those less biased fans do think that he is a decent manager. I wonder what Reading fans would say about him, apparently his popularity is up there with Coppell.
If you want further CAFC views take a look here:
http://www.charltonl
ife.com/forum/commen
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27435&page=1
donotappointtonyadams
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1:58pm Fri 17 Jul 09
GlennCAFC wrote:not interested mate, we were worried when Strachan took over and he certainly was a success, Pardew has got his errors out the way now, mainly joining a club already doomed. Saints is a a totally different proposition, he has money, backing of the fans and chairman, low expectations to begin with.
If you want further CAFC views take a look here: http://www.charltonl ife.com/forum/commen ts.php?DiscussionID= 27435&page=1
realist returns
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2:21pm Fri 17 Jul 09
GlennCAFC wrote:so you'd rather have tony or micky adams, then??
Erm - not a single mention of his huge success at Charlton I see. I wonder why?
Old Head in Herts
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2:22pm Fri 17 Jul 09
worried of e sussex
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2:24pm Fri 17 Jul 09
pawnsacrifice wrote:nice one pawn! had a look myself, certain amount of sour grapes me thinks but he did spend a lot of money. i always enjoy the trip to the valley but this one will be a highlight to look forward to! coyr
GlennCAFC wrote: If you want further CAFC views take a look here: http://www.charltonl ife.com/forum/commen ts.php?DiscussionID= 27435&page=1Thanks for that...just read what you fans are saying about our club. I had no axe to grind with Charlton but after reading your 'fans' comments about us, I hope you go down with an anchor around your neck.
realist returns
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NorthernSaint1970
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ExpatRomseySaint
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GlennCAFC
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realist returns wrote:Eh? I'm a Charlton fan mate.
GlennCAFC wrote: Erm - not a single mention of his huge success at Charlton I see. I wonder why?so you'd rather have tony or micky adams, then?? tw*t charlton were like saints, fading fast and just as george burley couldn't work miracles here, depsite his track record and the respect he was held in in the game - scotland manager now, don't forget - nor could pardew halt the tide at the valley. he's the best m an for the job in many ways, let's get behind him and wish him well. COYR
calog_saint
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2:47pm Fri 17 Jul 09
andy.123
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krazzik
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normsted
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Westonsaint
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4:24pm Fri 17 Jul 09
GlennCAFC wrote:Yes mate, as caused by a bad minority of your deluded fans that started in a pub in southampton before a St Mary's game. I also believe that they were in some sort of far-right organisation but we will gloss over that shall we ??
realist returns wrote:Eh? I'm a Charlton fan mate.
GlennCAFC wrote: Erm - not a single mention of his huge success at Charlton I see. I wonder why?so you'd rather have tony or micky adams, then?? tw*t charlton were like saints, fading fast and just as george burley couldn't work miracles here, depsite his track record and the respect he was held in in the game - scotland manager now, don't forget - nor could pardew halt the tide at the valley. he's the best m an for the job in many ways, let's get behind him and wish him well. COYR
And i know what the forum may read like but those opinions are not knee jerks of his recent appointment. They have been in place for well over a year now.
And the bitterness towards SOME Saints fans is from a mindless minority (of which all clubs have, including ours) smashed up the liberal club whiloe there were kids and women right there.
Lets not get into that though. Best of luck for the season and the 2 games against you ae definately a highlight of the season.
By the way - at Charlton, Pardew demanded that all staff called him God. Thats not a joke either.
Saintlee72
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4:47pm Fri 17 Jul 09
saint ted
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5:09pm Fri 17 Jul 09
saint ted
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5:14pm Fri 17 Jul 09
saint ted wrote:Apart from Lester re age.
Hopefully we can now offer contracts to Euell, John, Saga and Rasiak (if they want to stay) and that strike force should be too good for lg 1 defenders. Alternatively, how about signing players like Beckford (Leeds), Lester (Chesterfield) or Reid (Rotherham) - all proven goalscorers in lower leagues, and young enough to develop with us through promotion(s).
walk the line
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5:52pm Fri 17 Jul 09
walk the line
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walk the line
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6:00pm Fri 17 Jul 09
walk the line wrote:Sorry new to This that was ment to respond to the poster who wanted to know where you could place a bet for saints to be promoted from the play offs.
Bet 365 online. As i,m an expat in spain does anybody know if i,ll be able to listen to the games. As radio hampshire is closed.
BRIAN from bartley
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BRIAN from bartley
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BRIAN from bartley
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sfc totton
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Tirau Dan (NZL)
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Saintlee72 wrote:Charletons team had millions spent on them and lost how many games on the trot to take them down. No Excuses and no respect in that.. Certain players at Saints did that to us and did it to Mark Wotte.
This is NOT a good appointment. Alan Pardew is a very arrogant man and there are better managers out there we who are unemployed that we could have gone for. He was sacked at Charlton for the simple reason he lost the players respect, an his stubborness to admit his mistakes. That was plain to see. I hope Im wrong, I really do.
But, Im a Saints fan and will always support the team, no matter who is in charge and thats all I care about. Good luck Saints, and good luck AP, cause youre gonna need it. You do not wanna feel the wrath of Saints fans when they are severly p*ssed off. COYR
Invidia
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st king
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kel12
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walk the line wrote:walk the line try saintstv.com where u can listen or watch the games ! To all the doubters buzz off we don,t need your negative comments were save from excintion .On wards @ upwards ccc
Bet 365 online. As i,m an expat in spain does anybody know if i,ll be able to listen to the games. As radio hampshire is closed.
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The_Shotster says...
11:49am Fri 17 Jul 09