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Anger over HSBC job cuts in Southampton


TWO hundred call centre workers who helped their bank make massive profits are today facing the axe.

HSBC in Southampton is to cull up to 228 of some of its lowest paid employees, many earning just £14,000 a year, it was revealed last night.

Unions reacted with fury to the decision attacking its timing just weeks after HSBC unveiled almost £3bn in profits for the first half of the year.

Staff told of their shock at the news the Southampton call centre in HSBC’s 14-storey Nelson’s Gate office is to close in June next year and how the announcement was met with tears.

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At a stroke the decision reverses the tide of good employment news, which had seen 240 jobs created in Hampshire just last week. Electrical giant Best Buy and insurer Fortis created 100 positions each and bar chain Loungers a further 40.

In explanatory packs handed to staff at HSBC, bosses blamed the closure, which is expected to save £2.73m a year, on “tough and challenging times”.

HSBC employs more than 1,000 in its landmark offices and had recently praised the work of its call centre where up to 228 are now to go, as part of 1,700 job cuts nationwide.

One staff member, who did not want to be named, told how they heard the bleak news.

“Everyone was asked to go to a particular floor and then told the centre will be closing in June. Straightaway it went very quiet. No one had suspected at all,” he said. “To be honest, almost everyone was in tears. There were pregnant women there and other people just back from maternity.

Others had just bought houses and are now going to have difficulty paying the mortgage.

“It is an absolute shambles.

They have shown it is all about the money at the end of the day. This shouldn’t have happened given how successful our centre was compared with other sites. It’s a joke.

They are cutting jobs, but they are still paying bonuses.

How can they do that?”

Unite’s national officer Rob MacGregor said the union was “appalled”.

He added: “HSBC needs to urgently reconsider its strategy.

At a time of strong market performance by HSBC, they should not be cutting their most crucial asset, the staff that have contributed to £3bn half year profits and delivered market strength in a challenging financial climate.”

HSBC UK chief executive Paul Thurston said: “Decisions that affect our people are always difficult, but this restructure is an essential part of the streamlining of our business and the migration of activities into centres of excellence around the country.”


Comments(21)

Finlay says...
1:08pm Wed 4 Nov 09

"No one had suspected at all,” he said. “

Ten I suggest that you were either never there or that you are too stoopid to understand the statements made almost a year ago that Nelson Gate was being closed.

I personally had dealings with that building for it's conversion to alternative space. Several floors then were empty.

It was a fading call center as much of the work was being undertaken in Mumbai - A massive faux pas by HSBC but nonetheless still done.

Dont cry over job losses when first off you were not pointed at the door and escorted out - You were given adequate notice as of yesterday to find another job and also knew it was an imminent closure from a year ago.

If you're worth your salt you will find another job else tough no more paid sleeping from 9 to 5.

No story here

Big Mac says...
2:20pm Wed 4 Nov 09

Have you got something against the call centre workforce at HSBC Southampton or do you just feel the need to sound off?

The current economic climate will have an impact on everyone eventually – whether they'll be aware of it or not.

Let's hope your ivory tower doesn't collapse in the meantime.

hummm says...
2:53pm Wed 4 Nov 09

Finlay wrote:
"No one had suspected at all,” he said. “ Ten I suggest that you were either never there or that you are too stoopid to understand the statements made almost a year ago that Nelson Gate was being closed. I personally had dealings with that building for it's conversion to alternative space. Several floors then were empty. It was a fading call center as much of the work was being undertaken in Mumbai - A massive faux pas by HSBC but nonetheless still done. Dont cry over job losses when first off you were not pointed at the door and escorted out - You were given adequate notice as of yesterday to find another job and also knew it was an imminent closure from a year ago. If you're worth your salt you will find another job else tough no more paid sleeping from 9 to 5. No story here
Oh don't you just love it when people decide to take opinion based on incorrect so called facts?!
The Southampton call centre site has been hailed no. 1 in it's performance in all aspects from customer satisfaction to value added to the bank for this year,so no people had NO IDEA! Nelson gate is used for a number of purposes I would like to point out that HSBC fully occupy Norwich house(14 floors)Imminent closure for the call centre has never been announced!
Yes notice was given for which im sure all will be thankful however 'adequate' in these current times? I don't think there is a definate conclusion to be made.
Im sure many will go on to other jobs however due to personal circumstances some will find it harder than others. A little empathy wouldn't go a miss!

chapelsaint says...
2:55pm Wed 4 Nov 09

As sorry as I am to see anyone lose their jobs, to have a years notice of redundancy is sheer luxury. Countless people who have been employed in the various manufcturing industries that have over the years been decimated have usually felt themselves fortunate to even get a couple of weeks notice of their jobs being taken to more cost effective parts of the world! They also worked and made money for their former employers so HSBC folks are no so hard done by as perhaps they think they are!

Keith Oftergrass says...
4:18pm Wed 4 Nov 09

At least I am less likely to get some drone in a call centre calling at an inconvenient moment tryign to sell me something I don't need.

Hardly a great loss to our society is it ?

costa gaz says...
4:25pm Wed 4 Nov 09

Has anyone really got any sympathy for bank workers..... NO
you are the reason that we, as a nation, are in this gigantic mess.
Because of you bankers the country will will take generations to recover.
£750,000,000,000 that's an awful lot of money to recover thanks to you bankers. Get down to the job centre like the rest of us.

slimoverkill says...
5:01pm Wed 4 Nov 09

costa gaz wrote:
Has anyone really got any sympathy for bank workers..... NO
you are the reason that we, as a nation, are in this gigantic mess.
Because of you bankers the country will will take generations to recover.
£750,000,000,000 that's an awful lot of money to recover thanks to you bankers. Get down to the job centre like the rest of us.
Actually, you will find that it was not the Bankers, rather the populace that has the nation in the mess it is in. Falsifying earnings to borrow beyond means is by no means a Bankers fault. To that end, Credit Departments, which authorised the excesive lending make up less than one percent of Bank workforces in the UK so to 'blanket' blame Bankers for this mess is incorrect.
The reason we are in this mess is because bullish governmental economic policies based on economic forecasting by advisors whom had dual responsibilities for both the Government and the many corporation boards that they sat on. Therefore, the crisis we find ourselves in now is a direct result of large corporations, enforcing there economic agenda upon vulnerable governments which are unable to clarify for themselves, such as the Bush administration. Us Bankers, are merly scapegoats of a particular governments poor economic policy, its miss-management of that policy and its ignorance to understand the possible consequences of that policy.

costa gaz says...
5:16pm Wed 4 Nov 09

Oh I stand corrected.
It's all our fault then, the working class folk that wanted a new lcd telly and double glazing.
Just goes to show how "out of touch" you bankers really are.
Get real

Iain says...
5:38pm Wed 4 Nov 09

Gaz, do you honestly believe that the ones losing their jobs are the ones who made millions while losing billions? Same as in any industry it's the lowest grades who are going, and with both RBS and Skandia, the most obvious alternate employers, currently on a recruitment freeze, they're going to need all the time they can get to find a new job.

costa gaz says...
6:05pm Wed 4 Nov 09

Iain wrote:
Gaz, do you honestly believe that the ones losing their jobs are the ones who made millions while losing billions? Same as in any industry it's the lowest grades who are going, and with both RBS and Skandia, the most obvious alternate employers, currently on a recruitment freeze, they're going to need all the time they can get to find a new job.
No i don't. It's the whole banking structure that i blame. I'm afraid these folk work for the people that caused the worst ressession that mankind has ever known, therefore i have no sympathy for them. My only wish is that a lot more of the high earners in this industry face redundancy, they have no idea what real life is,

Donald2000 says...
7:26pm Wed 4 Nov 09

In the last thread I showed total lack of empathy and I want to say that I am sorry that people have lost or are losing their jobs, wish everyone all the best for the future and hope that ALL will find employment again in the future with jobs they can keep.

Thank you.

moron control says...
8:34pm Wed 4 Nov 09

costa gaz wrote:
Iain wrote: Gaz, do you honestly believe that the ones losing their jobs are the ones who made millions while losing billions? Same as in any industry it's the lowest grades who are going, and with both RBS and Skandia, the most obvious alternate employers, currently on a recruitment freeze, they're going to need all the time they can get to find a new job.
No i don't. It's the whole banking structure that i blame. I'm afraid these folk work for the people that caused the worst ressession that mankind has ever known, therefore i have no sympathy for them. My only wish is that a lot more of the high earners in this industry face redundancy, they have no idea what real life is,
Gaz, I think there's only one person here who doesn't know what real life is. This blanket generalisation that anyone who works in the financial industry must be out of touch is an absolute nonsense and very typical of the ignorant masses.
These people are mostly kids, fresh from school or college, who have taken one of the few jobs available in the current market. They are extremely low paid and know just what it's like to live to a tight budget, probably relying on borrowing themselves just to get by.
I'm surprised you're so pleased that they'll now be 'down the job centre like the rest of us'. They're largely well educated and are the ones who are prepared to take on the mundane jobs with poor pay rather than sit on the dole. Might be some unwelcome competition for you!

anon1984 says...
9:00pm Wed 4 Nov 09

costa gaz wrote:
Iain wrote: Gaz, do you honestly believe that the ones losing their jobs are the ones who made millions while losing billions? Same as in any industry it's the lowest grades who are going, and with both RBS and Skandia, the most obvious alternate employers, currently on a recruitment freeze, they're going to need all the time they can get to find a new job.
No i don't. It's the whole banking structure that i blame. I'm afraid these folk work for the people that caused the worst ressession that mankind has ever known, therefore i have no sympathy for them. My only wish is that a lot more of the high earners in this industry face redundancy, they have no idea what real life is,
I would like to point out to everyones insensitive comments about the job losses. HSBC are one of the only banks who have not had to be bailed out by the government using tens of millions of tax payers money.
The call centre that is closing did NOT make 'inconvenient' phone calls trying to sell something, in fact it takes inbound calls until 10pm from people wanting to borrow money through loans, mortgages, credit cards etc.
The recession was not all down to the bankers, it was also down to people borrowing money to have unessential items, (like plasma TV's, new cars, holidays etc) and then can't afford to pay their bills or make loan payments on time (as they lied about what the money was for or what their income is) and then have the audacity to get angry at the banks for not helping them out - explain that one!!
They haven't been given a year to find a new job, it is only 6-8 months, which I guess we can be grateful for the time, however when you have 300 other people in the same position all going for the same jobs in the company, plus who knows how many other people in Southampton currently looking for a job then the time scale isn't enough.
As Iain has rightly said, the people who have lost their jobs are the lowest grade of the company and on the lowest pay. I am devestated that I have been put in this position and no-one has any right to judge as you don't know us or our situations. I am PROUD to say I work for HSBC and just hope and pray I can find another job within the company (yes - I am even willing to start over again and take a pay cut to stay with them, that should say something.) Contrary to belief us 'bankers' are human beings, have feelings and a family to support. I wouldn't wish this on ANYONE not even you narrow minded people.

clausentum says...
9:03pm Wed 4 Nov 09

Donald2000 wrote:
In the last thread I showed total lack of empathy and I want to say that I am sorry that people have lost or are losing their jobs, wish everyone all the best for the future and hope that ALL will find employment again in the future with jobs they can keep.

Thank you.
You redeem yourself with these comments and exhibit a generosity of spirit absent in your original postings.

It suggests you really are a thoughtful, kindly person after all . . .

ameliaS says...
9:29pm Wed 4 Nov 09

It is always very sad when people lose their jobs for whatever reason. However, in our daily lives we are always looking to get best value and save money from supermarket special offers to "go compare" insurance etc. We all went to get more for less, but when employers take the same approach the hand wringing starts. We all have to realize that our labour is, to put it bluntly, a commodity we sell to our employers. If they don't want it, we can no longer sell it and we lose our jobs. A harsh reality but nobody owes us a living and everyone knows that jobs for life no longer exist.. if they ever did.

clausentum says...
11:41pm Wed 4 Nov 09

ameliaS wrote:
It is always very sad when people lose their jobs for whatever reason. However, in our daily lives we are always looking to get best value and save money from supermarket special offers to "go compare" insurance etc. We all went to get more for less, but when employers take the same approach the hand wringing starts. We all have to realize that our labour is, to put it bluntly, a commodity we sell to our employers. If they don't want it, we can no longer sell it and we lose our jobs. A harsh reality but nobody owes us a living and everyone knows that jobs for life no longer exist.. if they ever did.
Are you a retired banker?

I've never been convinced/impressed with the "growth through pain" theory. I think it basically flawed.

The people just given the news they will be losing their jobs and the ancillary people in their lives who will equally be devasted are unlikely to welcome your dose of "blunt" reality.

Their emotions and thoughts are somewhere else right now, don't ya think???

ameliaS says...
11:45pm Wed 4 Nov 09

clausentum wrote:
ameliaS wrote:
It is always very sad when people lose their jobs for whatever reason. However, in our daily lives we are always looking to get best value and save money from supermarket special offers to "go compare" insurance etc. We all went to get more for less, but when employers take the same approach the hand wringing starts. We all have to realize that our labour is, to put it bluntly, a commodity we sell to our employers. If they don't want it, we can no longer sell it and we lose our jobs. A harsh reality but nobody owes us a living and everyone knows that jobs for life no longer exist.. if they ever did.
Are you a retired banker?

I've never been convinced/impressed with the "growth through pain" theory. I think it basically flawed.

The people just given the news they will be losing their jobs and the ancillary people in their lives who will equally be devasted are unlikely to welcome your dose of "blunt" reality.

Their emotions and thoughts are somewhere else right now, don't ya think???
No I'm just an ordinary working (at the moment) woman. Growth through pain? Is that some sort of psychobabble? Too deep for me! I'm just a realist with plenty of life experience.

clausentum says...
11:55pm Wed 4 Nov 09

ameliaS wrote:
clausentum wrote:
ameliaS wrote:
It is always very sad when people lose their jobs for whatever reason. However, in our daily lives we are always looking to get best value and save money from supermarket special offers to "go compare" insurance etc. We all went to get more for less, but when employers take the same approach the hand wringing starts. We all have to realize that our labour is, to put it bluntly, a commodity we sell to our employers. If they don't want it, we can no longer sell it and we lose our jobs. A harsh reality but nobody owes us a living and everyone knows that jobs for life no longer exist.. if they ever did.
Are you a retired banker?

I've never been convinced/impressed with the "growth through pain" theory. I think it basically flawed.

The people just given the news they will be losing their jobs and the ancillary people in their lives who will equally be devasted are unlikely to welcome your dose of "blunt" reality.

Their emotions and thoughts are somewhere else right now, don't ya think???
No I'm just an ordinary working (at the moment) woman. Growth through pain? Is that some sort of psychobabble? Too deep for me! I'm just a realist with plenty of life experience.
. . . . and someone short on empathy.

Georgem says...
10:11am Thu 5 Nov 09

costa gaz wrote:
Has anyone really got any sympathy for bank workers..... NO
you are the reason that we, as a nation, are in this gigantic mess.
Because of you bankers the country will will take generations to recover.
£750,000,000,000 that's an awful lot of money to recover thanks to you bankers. Get down to the job centre like the rest of us.
Bankers, you fool. This story isn't about bankers. Is everyone who works for a bank a banker? Is everyone who works at a hospital a doctor? Is everyone who works for a bus company a bus driver?

And stop pulling made up figures out of your backside, as well. £750billion, eh? Seems you know something the rest of us don't, given that that's an entire order of magnitude (look it up) greater than the figure reported anywhere else.

Donald2000 says...
3:00pm Thu 5 Nov 09

I understood that the figures given to shore up the banks were £37BN and that another figure of £38BN has been mentioned in connection with putting RBS/Lloyds, C&G on the market for other buyers to come into the equation. So far I make that £75BN but it could be more. I would be willing to be corrected by other posters.

Thank you.

lnk says...
11:01am Wed 11 Nov 09

Donald2000 wrote:
I understood that the figures given to shore up the banks were £37BN and that another figure of £38BN has been mentioned in connection with putting RBS/Lloyds, C&G on the market for other buyers to come into the equation. So far I make that £75BN but it could be more. I would be willing to be corrected by other posters. Thank you.
I believe that the figure is correct however HSBC is yet to recieve any outside funding, in fact they gave money to the government to help 'shore up the banks' a little known fact but a fact non the less! As for the other comments on this blogg I can't believe how insesitive and uneducated some of you are. The people that are to be made unemployed work in an INBOUND call centre, it is the BOTTOM grades that will be going and the centre is NOT to close as it will be kept open for other investment products, neither has it been given any notice of closure, infact HSBC have just completed a refurbishment project of the floors they occupy, the redundancies were unexpected - particularly as the dept that is to be closed is ranked number 1 for sales, and service. To be so general in your comments of all 'bankers' is ridiculous, just like everyone else even they have children, mortgages, loans and lives to lead and to comment the way you have shows a total lack of empathy and a total lack of humanity - are you racist and sexist to?


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