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7:20pm Wednesday 4th November 2009 in
TWO hundred call centre workers who helped their bank make massive profits are today facing the axe.
HSBC in Southampton is to cull up to 228 of some of its lowest paid employees, many earning just £14,000 a year, it was revealed last night.
Unions reacted with fury to the decision attacking its timing just weeks after HSBC unveiled almost £3bn in profits for the first half of the year.
Staff told of their shock at the news the Southampton call centre in HSBC’s 14-storey Nelson’s Gate office is to close in June next year and how the announcement was met with tears.
At a stroke the decision reverses the tide of good employment news, which had seen 240 jobs created in Hampshire just last week. Electrical giant Best Buy and insurer Fortis created 100 positions each and bar chain Loungers a further 40.
In explanatory packs handed to staff at HSBC, bosses blamed the closure, which is expected to save £2.73m a year, on “tough and challenging times”.
HSBC employs more than 1,000 in its landmark offices and had recently praised the work of its call centre where up to 228 are now to go, as part of 1,700 job cuts nationwide.
One staff member, who did not want to be named, told how they heard the bleak news.
“Everyone was asked to go to a particular floor and then told the centre will be closing in June. Straightaway it went very quiet. No one had suspected at all,” he said. “To be honest, almost everyone was in tears. There were pregnant women there and other people just back from maternity.
Others had just bought houses and are now going to have difficulty paying the mortgage.
“It is an absolute shambles.
They have shown it is all about the money at the end of the day. This shouldn’t have happened given how successful our centre was compared with other sites. It’s a joke.
They are cutting jobs, but they are still paying bonuses.
How can they do that?”
Unite’s national officer Rob MacGregor said the union was “appalled”.
He added: “HSBC needs to urgently reconsider its strategy.
At a time of strong market performance by HSBC, they should not be cutting their most crucial asset, the staff that have contributed to £3bn half year profits and delivered market strength in a challenging financial climate.”
HSBC UK chief executive Paul Thurston said: “Decisions that affect our people are always difficult, but this restructure is an essential part of the streamlining of our business and the migration of activities into centres of excellence around the country.”
Comments(21)
Big Mac
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2:20pm Wed 4 Nov 09
hummm
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2:53pm Wed 4 Nov 09
Finlay wrote:Oh don't you just love it when people decide to take opinion based on incorrect so called facts?!
"No one had suspected at all,” he said. “ Ten I suggest that you were either never there or that you are too stoopid to understand the statements made almost a year ago that Nelson Gate was being closed. I personally had dealings with that building for it's conversion to alternative space. Several floors then were empty. It was a fading call center as much of the work was being undertaken in Mumbai - A massive faux pas by HSBC but nonetheless still done. Dont cry over job losses when first off you were not pointed at the door and escorted out - You were given adequate notice as of yesterday to find another job and also knew it was an imminent closure from a year ago. If you're worth your salt you will find another job else tough no more paid sleeping from 9 to 5. No story here
chapelsaint
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2:55pm Wed 4 Nov 09
Keith Oftergrass
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4:18pm Wed 4 Nov 09
costa gaz
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4:25pm Wed 4 Nov 09
slimoverkill
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5:01pm Wed 4 Nov 09
costa gaz wrote:Actually, you will find that it was not the Bankers, rather the populace that has the nation in the mess it is in. Falsifying earnings to borrow beyond means is by no means a Bankers fault. To that end, Credit Departments, which authorised the excesive lending make up less than one percent of Bank workforces in the UK so to 'blanket' blame Bankers for this mess is incorrect.
Has anyone really got any sympathy for bank workers..... NO
you are the reason that we, as a nation, are in this gigantic mess.
Because of you bankers the country will will take generations to recover.
£750,000,000,000 that's an awful lot of money to recover thanks to you bankers. Get down to the job centre like the rest of us.
costa gaz
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5:16pm Wed 4 Nov 09
Iain
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5:38pm Wed 4 Nov 09
costa gaz
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6:05pm Wed 4 Nov 09
Iain wrote:No i don't. It's the whole banking structure that i blame. I'm afraid these folk work for the people that caused the worst ressession that mankind has ever known, therefore i have no sympathy for them. My only wish is that a lot more of the high earners in this industry face redundancy, they have no idea what real life is,
Gaz, do you honestly believe that the ones losing their jobs are the ones who made millions while losing billions? Same as in any industry it's the lowest grades who are going, and with both RBS and Skandia, the most obvious alternate employers, currently on a recruitment freeze, they're going to need all the time they can get to find a new job.
Donald2000
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7:26pm Wed 4 Nov 09
moron control
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8:34pm Wed 4 Nov 09
costa gaz wrote:Gaz, I think there's only one person here who doesn't know what real life is. This blanket generalisation that anyone who works in the financial industry must be out of touch is an absolute nonsense and very typical of the ignorant masses.
Iain wrote: Gaz, do you honestly believe that the ones losing their jobs are the ones who made millions while losing billions? Same as in any industry it's the lowest grades who are going, and with both RBS and Skandia, the most obvious alternate employers, currently on a recruitment freeze, they're going to need all the time they can get to find a new job.No i don't. It's the whole banking structure that i blame. I'm afraid these folk work for the people that caused the worst ressession that mankind has ever known, therefore i have no sympathy for them. My only wish is that a lot more of the high earners in this industry face redundancy, they have no idea what real life is,
anon1984
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9:00pm Wed 4 Nov 09
costa gaz wrote:I would like to point out to everyones insensitive comments about the job losses. HSBC are one of the only banks who have not had to be bailed out by the government using tens of millions of tax payers money.
Iain wrote: Gaz, do you honestly believe that the ones losing their jobs are the ones who made millions while losing billions? Same as in any industry it's the lowest grades who are going, and with both RBS and Skandia, the most obvious alternate employers, currently on a recruitment freeze, they're going to need all the time they can get to find a new job.No i don't. It's the whole banking structure that i blame. I'm afraid these folk work for the people that caused the worst ressession that mankind has ever known, therefore i have no sympathy for them. My only wish is that a lot more of the high earners in this industry face redundancy, they have no idea what real life is,
clausentum
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9:03pm Wed 4 Nov 09
Donald2000 wrote:You redeem yourself with these comments and exhibit a generosity of spirit absent in your original postings.
In the last thread I showed total lack of empathy and I want to say that I am sorry that people have lost or are losing their jobs, wish everyone all the best for the future and hope that ALL will find employment again in the future with jobs they can keep.
Thank you.
ameliaS
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9:29pm Wed 4 Nov 09
clausentum
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11:41pm Wed 4 Nov 09
ameliaS wrote:Are you a retired banker?
It is always very sad when people lose their jobs for whatever reason. However, in our daily lives we are always looking to get best value and save money from supermarket special offers to "go compare" insurance etc. We all went to get more for less, but when employers take the same approach the hand wringing starts. We all have to realize that our labour is, to put it bluntly, a commodity we sell to our employers. If they don't want it, we can no longer sell it and we lose our jobs. A harsh reality but nobody owes us a living and everyone knows that jobs for life no longer exist.. if they ever did.
ameliaS
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11:45pm Wed 4 Nov 09
clausentum wrote:No I'm just an ordinary working (at the moment) woman. Growth through pain? Is that some sort of psychobabble? Too deep for me! I'm just a realist with plenty of life experience.
ameliaS wrote:Are you a retired banker?
It is always very sad when people lose their jobs for whatever reason. However, in our daily lives we are always looking to get best value and save money from supermarket special offers to "go compare" insurance etc. We all went to get more for less, but when employers take the same approach the hand wringing starts. We all have to realize that our labour is, to put it bluntly, a commodity we sell to our employers. If they don't want it, we can no longer sell it and we lose our jobs. A harsh reality but nobody owes us a living and everyone knows that jobs for life no longer exist.. if they ever did.
I've never been convinced/impressed with the "growth through pain" theory. I think it basically flawed.
The people just given the news they will be losing their jobs and the ancillary people in their lives who will equally be devasted are unlikely to welcome your dose of "blunt" reality.
Their emotions and thoughts are somewhere else right now, don't ya think???
clausentum
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11:55pm Wed 4 Nov 09
ameliaS wrote:. . . . and someone short on empathy.
clausentum wrote:No I'm just an ordinary working (at the moment) woman. Growth through pain? Is that some sort of psychobabble? Too deep for me! I'm just a realist with plenty of life experience.
ameliaS wrote:Are you a retired banker?
It is always very sad when people lose their jobs for whatever reason. However, in our daily lives we are always looking to get best value and save money from supermarket special offers to "go compare" insurance etc. We all went to get more for less, but when employers take the same approach the hand wringing starts. We all have to realize that our labour is, to put it bluntly, a commodity we sell to our employers. If they don't want it, we can no longer sell it and we lose our jobs. A harsh reality but nobody owes us a living and everyone knows that jobs for life no longer exist.. if they ever did.
I've never been convinced/impressed with the "growth through pain" theory. I think it basically flawed.
The people just given the news they will be losing their jobs and the ancillary people in their lives who will equally be devasted are unlikely to welcome your dose of "blunt" reality.
Their emotions and thoughts are somewhere else right now, don't ya think???
Georgem
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10:11am Thu 5 Nov 09
costa gaz wrote:Bankers, you fool. This story isn't about bankers. Is everyone who works for a bank a banker? Is everyone who works at a hospital a doctor? Is everyone who works for a bus company a bus driver?
Has anyone really got any sympathy for bank workers..... NO
you are the reason that we, as a nation, are in this gigantic mess.
Because of you bankers the country will will take generations to recover.
£750,000,000,000 that's an awful lot of money to recover thanks to you bankers. Get down to the job centre like the rest of us.
Donald2000
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3:00pm Thu 5 Nov 09
lnk
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11:01am Wed 11 Nov 09
Donald2000 wrote:I believe that the figure is correct however HSBC is yet to recieve any outside funding, in fact they gave money to the government to help 'shore up the banks' a little known fact but a fact non the less! As for the other comments on this blogg I can't believe how insesitive and uneducated some of you are. The people that are to be made unemployed work in an INBOUND call centre, it is the BOTTOM grades that will be going and the centre is NOT to close as it will be kept open for other investment products, neither has it been given any notice of closure, infact HSBC have just completed a refurbishment project of the floors they occupy, the redundancies were unexpected - particularly as the dept that is to be closed is ranked number 1 for sales, and service. To be so general in your comments of all 'bankers' is ridiculous, just like everyone else even they have children, mortgages, loans and lives to lead and to comment the way you have shows a total lack of empathy and a total lack of humanity - are you racist and sexist to?
I understood that the figures given to shore up the banks were £37BN and that another figure of £38BN has been mentioned in connection with putting RBS/Lloyds, C&G on the market for other buyers to come into the equation. So far I make that £75BN but it could be more. I would be willing to be corrected by other posters. Thank you.
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Finlay says...
1:08pm Wed 4 Nov 09
Ten I suggest that you were either never there or that you are too stoopid to understand the statements made almost a year ago that Nelson Gate was being closed.
I personally had dealings with that building for it's conversion to alternative space. Several floors then were empty.
It was a fading call center as much of the work was being undertaken in Mumbai - A massive faux pas by HSBC but nonetheless still done.
Dont cry over job losses when first off you were not pointed at the door and escorted out - You were given adequate notice as of yesterday to find another job and also knew it was an imminent closure from a year ago.
If you're worth your salt you will find another job else tough no more paid sleeping from 9 to 5.
No story here