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Eastleigh Borough Council give go ahead to Go Ape! at Itchen Valley Country Park

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COUNCIL chiefs last night approved plans for a Go Ape tree-top assault course in Southampton.

At midnight, after five hours of heated exchanges, councillors voted nine to two in favour of the application which will see thousands of residents swinging from the tree tops.

The proposal will now be rubber stamped by the Liberal Democrat controlled Eastleigh Borough Council with construction likely to start in the New Year.

Councillor Rupert Kyrle, chairman of the Hedge End, West End and Botley local area committee was happy with the decision.

Speaking after the result he said: "It's a very complex application but we fully explored the issues and had reference to all the information from our officers, great experts in their field.

"We listened to all the residents concerns and reached the right decision for our community."

Around 100 people packed the Hedge End 2000 Centre to hear a whether a tree-top assault course at the Itchen Valley Country Park would be given the go ahead.

Around ten campaigners put their concerns to councillors saying they believed the new high wire adventure course would cause problems to wildlife, traffic and most prominently noise levels in the park.

Objections were raised over excessive noise, threats to wildlife, and even possible problems with alcohol related disorder.

Margaret Raff, from Friends of the Itchen Valley Country Park, had taken councillors to nearby Lower Itchen Fisheries at the weekend in bid to shock them over the likely noise levels.

Margaret believed that the proposal had been decided long before tonight's meeting, speaking after the result she said: "The process was flawed from the start.

"The issue is, is Go Ape in the right place or not and the arguments tonight showed that Itchen Valley Country Park is not the right place.

"We won the argument but not the result."

Matt Johns, who complied an environmental impact report for Go Ape, earlier told the committee an adventure course would provide an opportunity for "inspiration, information and education".

Ben Davies, Business Development Manager for Go Ape was delighted with the committees decision, he said: "We are thrilled about opening Go Ape at Itchen Valley Country Park and look forward to working with the community to create a fantastic resource for the people of Southampton or Eastleigh."

Comments(17)

TheLandlord says...
7:51am Tue 8 Dec 09

Excellent news

freemantlegirl2 says...
7:51am Tue 8 Dec 09

So glad that common sense has prevailed. It seems this was gone into v. thoroughly and everything considered. The argument about alcohol related disorders is frankly nonsense, none of the Go Ape staff are going to let someone use it if they're drunk and hardly a likely scenario is it! smacks of clutching at straws...

Anyway, I hope many families, young and old enjoy Go Ape, we will be it will be a great addition to the park ! :)

Sunny Saint says...
8:46am Tue 8 Dec 09

This is brilliant news.
At last common sense has prevailed over Nimbyism and the general kill-joy attitude of an obvious minorty.

Nuffsedd :-)

sotonwinch09 says...
8:57am Tue 8 Dec 09

About time we win over the complaining OAP's with nothing better to do in life.

WeirdoBoinky says...
9:43am Tue 8 Dec 09

I would have paid more attention to any objections if they had said they had actually been to an Go Ape - taking a councillor to a fishery??? what was the point of that. I've been to three different Go Ape sites around the south and the only significant noise I have heard during these visits has been that of children running around enjoying themselves, some enjoying the Go Ape facilities, some just playing around on their bikes or just running around as childredn do - and isn't that the whole point of a Country Park??? for children, and adults, to get outside in the fresh air and get some exercise?

Objecting to an environmentally friendly activity like Go Ape, which encourages secondary use of a Country Park, is just middle-class nimby-ism gone mad. What is the point of a Country Park if you aren't goiing to encourage and incentivise people to use it!

Glad the councillors saw sense!

Family Man says...
9:52am Tue 8 Dec 09

Common Sense 1 - NIMBYs 0, bet it doesn't shut the NIMBYs up though.....no doubt they might force an enquiry at huge taxpayer expense...

yummy_mummy says...
10:21am Tue 8 Dec 09

Quote of the day from Margaret Raff:

"The issue is, is Go Ape in the right place or not and the arguments tonight showed that Itchen Valley Country Park is not the right place. We won the argument but not the result."

Clearly you didn't win the argument or Go-Ape wouldn't have been given the go ahead!

G0Rf says...
11:04am Tue 8 Dec 09

I THINK THEY SHOULD THINK ABOUT BUILDING A JUNCTION 6 ON THE M27 TO RELIEF THE EXTRA TRAFFIC!


sotonwinch09 says...
11:10am Tue 8 Dec 09

G0Rf wrote:
I THINK THEY SHOULD THINK ABOUT BUILDING A JUNCTION 6 ON THE M27 TO RELIEF THE EXTRA TRAFFIC!

What has that got to do with anything?

MasterPuppet says...
12:50pm Tue 8 Dec 09

Building a Junc 6... think about it.

A dedicated turn off for the county park, rather than having to come of at 5 and go through Eastleigh or past the airport, or come off at 7 and go through west end to get there, as people will have to do currently.

People will come form futher afield than just Eastleigh or Southampton.




SotonNorth says...
1:38pm Tue 8 Dec 09

It must be noted that some of the campaigners against Go Ape referred to it making Itchen Valley Country Park into more of a theme park. Nonsense. One campaigner muddled up their words and called it "Itchen Valley Nature Reserve". Incorrect, a Country Park is not the same as a Nature Reserve. And another campaigner hinted that they did not want more traffic problems like those at the Rose Bowl. How can you compare the Rose Bowl with Itchen Valley Country Park? As for noise from Go Ape supposedly going to put people off from fishing on the River Itchen, I would have thought Southampton Airport and the M27 Motorway to be more off-putting than youngsters enjoying themselves.

sotonwinch09 says...
2:21pm Tue 8 Dec 09

I am pretty sure the demand for Go Ape will not need a dedicated Junction off the motorway.

WeirdoBoinky says...
2:45pm Tue 8 Dec 09

Go Ape puts 14 people on the course per hour. Takes 2-3 hrs to complete, implying probably between 42 and 56 people there at any one time, which probably only means a couple of dozen cars at most. There's no need for a motorway junction for that.

Those kind of numbers also won't exactly overload the Country Park, now, will it!

colliwobbles says...
4:52pm Tue 8 Dec 09

bet the nimby's go ape sh1t now the've lost

kp387 says...
7:59pm Tue 8 Dec 09

Woo! Now, just need them to take down those annoying red and white signs on Allington Lane and we're done.

concernedofstdenys says...
1:25pm Fri 11 Dec 09

I dont live anywhere near there but I agreed with them. If you read my posts you will see all my arguments are nothing to do with NIMBYsim, I was simply echoing the concerns of the Woodland Trust who objected and no one has ever been able to tell me on this forum why the Woodland Trust were wrong.

Anyway, presumably the reason the councillors went to the fishery Sunny Saint was that family fear losing their business. Whether they are right or wrong they deserve respect. They were not making their fears up, they felt them and if they are right then their business will suffer. It remains to be seen if they were founded or not. You would fight for a 50 year oldbusiness if it was you, wouldnt you? The 2 councillors who visit the fishery before voting agreed with them and voted against. Why did they vote against it? This shows that there was substance and that was recognised by most people in the room. Tranquillity is subjectve and the fact that the Fishery is a viable business shows that the clients currently dont mind the white noise of the motorway. Shouts are different, the 2 councillors experienced 2 people (apparently shouting their heads off to make a point) but it was not 84 people! The argument from Councillors Bloom that young people dont shout because its wimpy is bizarre. It may or may not damage the business but one thing the lady did not do is lie.

The Go Ape company have disseminated a lot of half truths. Its 14 per hour not half hour, from the documents. The max is 308 per day not the 30 per day that Go Ape say on their forum. Councillors parroted back 30.
As you are all so certain I suggest that before it opens you visit the park and take a walk to the river, stand on the bridge and enjoy the tranquillity. Then, you may still think on balance its a good idea. Fine but then you have to go back
when there are 308 people using it in summer. Go down to the bridge by the river and stand there and see the difference. You may still think it was fine to let one business thrive and one suffer but you will not be able to mock or deny the effect.
One thing I see so often in these forum is nasty knee jerk comment. The non NIMBY people posting against (myself, Jay and Robbo etc. ) have used reasoned argument and not nasty personal stuff.

concernedofstdenys says...
11:13am Sat 12 Dec 09

Freemantle Girl the many families that WILL enjoy Go Ape will have to have the £100 entry fee for Go Ape for a family to get in, the extra cost of petrol for 21 miles to Moors Valley would hardly have stopped them going would it? And that wouldn't cost the tax payer £200,000+ to put a car park in for a private company. Why dont Go Ape pay for their own car park? We will be picking up other bills for years to come paying for the backbone of the companys business whilst the shareholders and directors profit. This one of the fastest growing in the UK in the last 10 years. Umm?
Read www.saveitchenvalley

park.org.uk
The council found 2 inaccuracies in pages and pages. Both trivial. The company told people 30 people a day will go and it is 300 a day max. The councillors parroted 30 per day max! is that right? Is that trivial? The Wildlife Trust, the Woodland Trust, The Environment Agency, Natural England all objected and the council spent months on behalf of a private company convincing them to withdraw objections. They had to work pretty hard too but they threw all the resources and connnections of the council at it. Would your own private planning application get that support using public assets? Did the campaigners get that support? The councillors said they were neutral, my a***. Of course they werent and they shouldn't pretend to be, its insulting and makes you cringe. Its okay that they arent neutral as that is the point of leadership, but if it was such a harmless idea why did all the bodies object and keep objecting up to the wire? Dont just say its NIMBYism (120 objections, 200 petition and 100 supporting letters dont add up to just locals! ) Whether you wanted it or not, try and explain these things to yourselfl

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