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Southampton and Hampshire councils 'did all they could' to deal with bad weather


WE did all we could.

That was the message from under-fire highways bosses in response to criticism over how parts of the south were brought to a near-standstill due to treacherous icy roads.

Southampton was one of the worst affected areas after a combination of rain and sub-zero temperatures left pavements and roads covered in black ice.

Residents across the region were unable to leave their homes as cars skidded off driveways while commuters were left in queues of traffic as the carriageways were littered with vehicles that had spun out of control.

Those caught up in the chaos criticised highways bosses at Southampton City and Hampshire County Council for failing to grit the roads in advance of the expected cold snap.

But road chiefs have hit back saying there was little that could be done due to the combination of weather conditions.

According to both authorities all networks were gritted but the salt was washed away due to the downpour in the early hours of yesterday morning.

Due to the subzero temperatures the rain water froze on the surfaces creating ‘ice-skating rink-like’ conditions.

Public realm manager for Southampton John Harvey said: “The networks were gritted throughout the night but unfortunately the downpour washed the salt away.

“We were immediately back out re-gritting the roads as the rain had dried with such speed that you could actually see the tide marks on the roads.”

He said some 100 staff were working on the gritting operation throughout yesterday with staff from the parks and open spaces department distributing grit on streets and pavements.

Within four hours yesterday morning the authority had spread 80 tonnes of grit – more than twice the normal amount used in a whole day.

He said staff had not seen weather like it for at least 15 years. “I wouldn’t say it was unprecedented but it is unusual.

There was nothing more we could have done though to prevent those conditions from happening. Our drivers have been out around the clock.”

A number of roads were closed around the city with communities on higher ground like Townhill Park suffering the worst effects. The estate was practically shut off as the hilly roads in and around the area were too dangerous to use.

Meggasson Avenue was closed by police along with a number of smaller roads in the vicinity.

Woodmill Lane also saw a number of accidents including buses and a gritter lorry involved in minor crashes.

Public transport was also brought to a standstill with both bus and train services suspended for several hours.

Meanwhile, in Hampshire more than £700,000 has been spent gritting roads since Thursday when the recent bad weather started.

Councillor Mel Kendal, Executive Member for Environment said: “Since the cold snap started last Thursday we have had more than 100 drivers out, around the clock, salting the priority roads that carry over 85 per cent of the traffic.

“Over 6,500 tonnes of salt has been used so far and the cost of our efforts is close to three-quarters of a million pounds to date.

“We are doing all we can to ease the situation during the extreme weather and will continue to work with our partners to minimise the impact of the freeze and any further snow.

“All road users are advised to anticipate delays and congestion on the main road network and to take extra care if they do have to travel.”


Comments(18)

Iw61 says...
11:06am Thu 24 Dec 09

In Bitterne Park we couldnt even get to the priority roads that were supposedly salted.
I expect quite a few Personal Injury claims against the Council.
I ended up walking to work. The pavements were treacherous.

Stupideditor says...
11:35am Thu 24 Dec 09

All those who sustained injury or loss damage should sue the council for not doing enough...

The Mad Dog says...
11:52am Thu 24 Dec 09

Moan, whinge and complain, is that all you guys can do.

What about some thanks to the drivers who got into work to drive the grit lorries!!! One passed me at 0645 (at the bus stop). To be honest after he'd gone the road surface was no different, no traffic to mix it in.

I say thanks to the gritters and the bus drivers who managed to carry on and od their jobs.

Northamboy says...
12:26pm Thu 24 Dec 09

The Mad Dog wrote:
Moan, whinge and complain, is that all you guys can do. What about some thanks to the drivers who got into work to drive the grit lorries!!! One passed me at 0645 (at the bus stop). To be honest after he'd gone the road surface was no different, no traffic to mix it in. I say thanks to the gritters and the bus drivers who managed to carry on and od their jobs.
Someone with sense :-)

All people want to do nowadays is sue someone.......pathet
ic.

Well done to The Mad Dog who wrote a very sensible response

downfader says...
12:59pm Thu 24 Dec 09

Stupideditor wrote:
All those who sustained injury or loss damage should sue the council for not doing enough...
All those who didnt fit ice tyres/canvass tyre covers to their cars in advance, or put cleat/spike overshoes on reap what they sow.
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It can work bothways.
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The gritters were out, what would you do, erect a giant umbrella to stop the rain washing it all away and covering the rest?

claxxie says...
1:43pm Thu 24 Dec 09

Let's get this straight for people of who don't no the facts:

The council were gritting roads and pavements since early this morning. However, unfortunately at 6am in the morning it lightly rained in sub zero temperatures in the city. The rain washed away the salt and then ice formed on the city’s pavements and roads. In essence the city has had to deal with freak weather conditions.

They more than 100 council staff were working as hard as they can to grit the roads and pavements, using four larger gritting lorries and more than 35 smaller vehicles.

They were prioritising routes as necessary, making sure pavements and roads outside the hospital, sheltered housing and shopping areas are gritted. They also responded as fast as they could to calls from the emergency services and members of public.

My View from the Hill says...
4:17pm Thu 24 Dec 09

When it's all said and done none of us want to pay extra council tax per annum just for extra gritter lorries, so stop whinging and get on with it.

It lasted half a day anyone would think it happens everyday.

soton1980 says...
4:58pm Thu 24 Dec 09

I Honestly think most councils did the best they could. At the end of the day, it would be uneconomic to maintain a huge fleet of gritter lorries for the occasional winter cold snaps we have in this country. Yes, councils could grit every single road and cul-de-sac, but taxes would go up and the extra costs cannot be justified!

thesouth says...
4:58pm Thu 24 Dec 09

I agree with mad dog, well done to those griters that made it to work. Why do people moan groan and blame others... If they are so clever, may b they should have made foward plans themselves

Owl says...
5:10pm Thu 24 Dec 09

If the rain washes the grit away why then was there a New Forest DC gritter lorry out in the pouring rain on Monday morning? Surely a waste of money and resources?

Mr BCB says...
7:20pm Thu 24 Dec 09

The council did their best in very bad weather conditions.They deserve our praise and thanks.

Condor Man says...
8:21pm Thu 24 Dec 09

Surely some responsibility lies with people who chose to go out knowing full well it was icy.

Donald2000 says...
8:32pm Thu 24 Dec 09

Condor Man wrote:
Surely some responsibility lies with people who chose to go out knowing full well it was icy.
Top point and I share your thoughts exactly, Condor Man. Well said.

Jerry Parsons says...
12:34am Fri 25 Dec 09

Owl...no, they were making the best of a bad situation.....the rain might have washed the salt away eventuallly; but it would have had some time to take the ice away too.

KA says...
6:59am Fri 25 Dec 09

I went to work at 5-30 am before the rainfall and the roads hadn't been gritted through shirley or the city centre.......... s.w. stay hurt..

southy says...
11:49am Fri 25 Dec 09

Donald2000 wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
Surely some responsibility lies with people who chose to go out knowing full well it was icy.
Top point and I share your thoughts exactly, Condor Man. Well said.
what else would help, if people did not live so far away from there jobs

Redback says...
1:55pm Fri 25 Dec 09

KA wrote:
I went to work at 5-30 am before the rainfall and the roads hadn't been gritted through shirley or the city centre.......... s.w. stay hurt..
Precisely.
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I'll be submitting an FoI request in the NY and then we'll see just how accurate the council's plaintive howlings are.

Condor Man says...
2:26pm Fri 25 Dec 09

southy wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
Condor Man wrote: Surely some responsibility lies with people who chose to go out knowing full well it was icy.
Top point and I share your thoughts exactly, Condor Man. Well said.
what else would help, if people did not live so far away from there jobs
I went in late and used a 1/2 days leave as I wasn't able to make up my hours. Better to be safe than sorry in this weather.


WEBice bus.jpg A bus collide with parked cars after sliding on ice in Woodmill Lane, Bitterne Park, Southampton – by Daily Echo reader Mr Alexander.

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