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Bishop's Waltham campaigners say majority of residents against Sainsbury’s plan

BIG PLAN: An artist’s impression of the proposed Sainsbury’s store. BIG PLAN: An artist’s impression of the proposed Sainsbury’s store.

SUPERMARKET campaigners have launched a counter-offensive in their battle against a Sainsbury’s in Bishop’s Waltham.

Bishop’s Waltham’s Action Group (BWAG) says a majority of the town does not want a new supermarket on the Abbey Mill site.

An army of volunteers has been dropping leaflets through front doors in the town and surrounding villages.

In their response to Sainsbury’s most recent consultation, BWAG argues that Sainsbury’s cannot provide credible evidence for any need for a superstore. It says there are 120 supermarkets within a ten-mile radius, including eight Sainsbury’s stores. BWAG also says most Bishop’s Waltham residents are against the store.

It also argues that although jobs will be created, more will be lost in other businesses.

BWAG’s research team discovered that the existing supermarkets in Bishop’s Waltham are no more expensive than the big four supermarket companies.

This research was based on a national personal finance magazine’s shopping basket research.

The group also says the the estimated 30,000 car journeys per week on the four B-class feeder roads leading to the two roundabouts either side of the historic Palace ruins will cause massive hold-ups.

Henry Fryer, chairman of BWAG said: “Sainsbury’s have yet to convince Bishop’s Waltham residents that this store is needed or wanted.

“There are better uses for the Abbey Mill site for which the town has greater need: more affordable housing, a return to light industrial use or recreational facilities would all have greater social benefit.”

Comments(44)

Ted Rogers says...
10:00am Tue 23 Feb 10

Good for BWAG - There is no need for another supermarket in Bishops Waltham and as they indicate, that site could be put to far better use.
If Sainsburys are so intent on having a presence in Bishops Waltham why don't they exercise their corporate muscle and buy the Budgen store. The area's road infrastructure cannot support the proposed store and without doubt it will have far more negatives than positives for the residents of Bishops Waltham

Ragworm says...
10:24am Tue 23 Feb 10

Absolute rubbish Ted Rogers and BWAG..
I have live in BW for 32 years now and all the people i know WANT this to happen.
People who may have recently moved in the village who see it as a second home area with a quaint high street and good local shops are not living in the same world a lot of us are.
THIS IS WANTED , THIS IS NEEDED and if some liberal twit in sandels puts a leaflet through my door, i will shove it right up his ar$e.
Budgens = overpriced out of date food.
CO-OP = overpriced
One Stop = Rubbish selection.
Where else can people on a budget feed their families without travelling a 15 mile round trip to the nearest supermarket.
There won't be any traffic problems in BW and if anything it would bring in passing trade and more visitors to the area.
Bishops Waltham is on its ar$e at the moment and looks run down, this would give us a new focal point and i believe a new centre for the real community.

championez says...
10:42am Tue 23 Feb 10

As a resident of Bishop's Waltham I too know how much the people want Sainsbury's to arrive. In fact, much of the BWAG is actually made up of the shop owners who feel that they would lose out. The reality is however, that they have already lost. The majority of the population don't use their shops because they are already over-priced. The people who would lose out are Budgens and co-op, neither of whom can honestly say that they are able to cope with the demands of the people living in and around Bishop's Waltham. The town needs a Sainsbury's, not an over-priced collection of 'traditional' butchers, fishmongers etc, that no one uses

Ted Rogers says...
10:44am Tue 23 Feb 10

You know that you are in the minority, if you were to open your eyes and try to look past your me me me attitude you may well be able to add constructively to the debate. Why should every local community have a superstore in it's midst? If you want to eradicate a 15 mile round trip to a supermarket, move to Hedge End or West End. Ask yourself why you moved to BW and then envisage it 2 years down the line after a corporate giant with no social ethic or responsibility has a stranglehold on trade. Bishops Waltham throughout its history has been a small market town, how about trying to preserve some history and tradition rather than worry about a tin of beans being 2p cheaper. Short sightedness will cost all residents of BW in the long run.

Northamboy says...
11:01am Tue 23 Feb 10

If this supermarket comes to town Bishops Waltham will become the next Hedge End and we all know what a mess that is nowadays. It used to be a nice quiet place but in come the shops and more housing follows. Bishops Waltham does not need a Sainsburys. All the 'local' people who want it are the newcomers who moved there because it was nice and quiet and now wants to change it.

If they want a Sainsburys move to the town of little boxes all looking the same called Hedge End

Ragworm says...
11:10am Tue 23 Feb 10

Northamboy wrote:
If this supermarket comes to town Bishops Waltham will become the next Hedge End and we all know what a mess that is nowadays. It used to be a nice quiet place but in come the shops and more housing follows. Bishops Waltham does not need a Sainsburys. All the 'local' people who want it are the newcomers who moved there because it was nice and quiet and now wants to change it. If they want a Sainsburys move to the town of little boxes all looking the same called Hedge End
How will it become the next hedge end?.
Where are you going to expand to??.
There is nowhere left to expand, that is why we need a supermarket, so we can stay in our village.
And i think you will find its the new people apposed to the idea.
That and the rich.

Common says...
11:29am Tue 23 Feb 10

This sounds like a very typical Echo story.
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1. Base the story upon a local NIMBY group who make wild claims about having the majority of the support.
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2. Don't even bother getting an opposite point of view or speak to Sainsbury's.
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3. The usual rent-a-gob forum users who feel they HAVE to comment on everything put their oar in and as usual, are talking rubbish, but it gets them some attention.

Ted Rogers says...
11:44am Tue 23 Feb 10

Far better to have an opinion on the issue rather than pontificate from high with generalistic slights.

To answer your points though:

1. Look at every issue on it's merits, some of these NIMBY groups protect heritage and communities; (is that so bad?) whilst others are in it for self-promotion and self interest.
2. Sainsbury's have a huge PR machine at it's disposal, which it has used and will continue to use in order to support their aim.
3. See my opening on this post.

Ted - right or wrong, man of opinion.

Ragworm says...
12:10pm Tue 23 Feb 10

Ted Rogers wrote:
Ragworm wrote:
Ted Rogers wrote:
Ragworm wrote:
Ted Rogers wrote: You know that you are in the minority, if you were to open your eyes and try to look past your me me me attitude you may well be able to add constructively to the debate. Why should every local community have a superstore in it's midst? If you want to eradicate a 15 mile round trip to a supermarket, move to Hedge End or West End. Ask yourself why you moved to BW and then envisage it 2 years down the line after a corporate giant with no social ethic or responsibility has a stranglehold on trade. Bishops Waltham throughout its history has been a small market town, how about trying to preserve some history and tradition rather than worry about a tin of beans being 2p cheaper. Short sightedness will cost all residents of BW in the long run.
I WAS BORN HERE !!! "throughout its history has been a small market town" F*** me man get out of the 18 hundreds. History and tradition went ages ago, when the old dukes mill was knocked down for FLATS, and the Little Chef was knocked down for FLATS. And the Chippy Knocked down for FLATS.. The Tyrella squash club knocked down for FLATS. And all the houses being knocked down to stuff 30 FLATS in their back garden. A growing population needs more facilities , simple. Lets build something WE need and i couldnt give a stuff if the local shops suffer, we could do with more hairdressers and estate agents!!!. The only shop worth anything to the community is HYLANDS, and i have no doubt that will continue to thrive. Christ sake what is there in the high street that will suffer?. The wine shop?..NO because that is already being screwed over bu Coop and One stop.ok so moving up the street..Kitchen shop..NO..Kings Church..NO..Little butchers..maybe but will have loyal trade who can actually afford to shop there..hardware store .NO. should i go on untill i find a decent shop??.. The truth is , there isn't one. So don't be a div TED and if you don't like it why don't you move to Waltham chase.
I think you are the one who should move MORON,or get behind a scheme that benefits the community at large, not a handful of selfish individuals looking to save a few pence. As BWAG rightly states there are far better alternatives for that site than a supermarket. You won't see that though because it's all about you as you demonstrate. "i couldnt give a stuff if the local shops suffer" One for the community aren't you! Idiot. What's next KFC or Macdonalds on the site of the palace?
What are you moaning about.?. You got your bowling green grandad. How does apposing a supermarket benefit the community at large?. Lets leave the site empty shall we?. Or maybe build more flats for people who can't afford them.
There we have it. A man bereft of any creativity or objective thought. Great reposte with negatives and no other solutions. How about homes for people who were born in the town (not village) but cannot afford to remain when it's time leave the parental home? How about a really good leisure facility with multi uses for the older and younger inhabitants of Bishops Waltham? See where I'm going with this?
Fair point Ted, i can see you are looking out for residents interest.
As i said before i have lived here all my life and am proud to come from BW.
I really do believe it would benefit more than you think, but we will never know unless it is built.
As for the Leisure idea, god yes it would be fantastic to have a facility, i remember the rumours flying around when the police college was destroyed(another great shame).
I just don't like the unbalanced way this proposal is being portrayed.
I have no doubts this will happen and look forward to the day it opens.

Ken Hutchinson says...
12:15pm Tue 23 Feb 10

"3. The usual rent-a-gob forum users who feel they HAVE to comment on everything put their oar in and as usual, are talking rubbish, but it gets them some attention."

The comments section would be pretty dull even redundant, if individuals didn't feel compelled to comment.......hope this doesn't confirm me as an attention seeking,rubbish talking oar putter inner!

bigronthestaff says...
12:24pm Tue 23 Feb 10

Ken Hutchinson wrote:
"3. The usual rent-a-gob forum users who feel they HAVE to comment on everything put their oar in and as usual, are talking rubbish, but it gets them some attention." The comments section would be pretty dull even redundant, if individuals didn't feel compelled to comment.......hope this doesn't confirm me as an attention seeking,rubbish talking oar putter inner!
That depends on whether you class yourself as a ''rent-a-gob'' Ken!!! =) I'm sure you don't!! =)

Stupideditor says...
4:58pm Tue 23 Feb 10

Ted Rogers wrote:
Good for BWAG - There is no need for another supermarket in Bishops Waltham and as they indicate, that site could be put to far better use. If Sainsburys are so intent on having a presence in Bishops Waltham why don't they exercise their corporate muscle and buy the Budgen store. The area's road infrastructure cannot support the proposed store and without doubt it will have far more negatives than positives for the residents of Bishops Waltham
I agree with you 110% if sainsburys were that desperate to put in a store then the buyout of the budgens store would have benefited. Why ruin the lovely surroundings and wildlife of Bishops waltham with a large building like this one. Bishops waltham used to pride itself with community and the wildlife of the pond, this will all be lost.

Good work BWAG

Ragworm says...
6:11pm Tue 23 Feb 10

Stupideditor wrote:
Ted Rogers wrote: Good for BWAG - There is no need for another supermarket in Bishops Waltham and as they indicate, that site could be put to far better use. If Sainsburys are so intent on having a presence in Bishops Waltham why don't they exercise their corporate muscle and buy the Budgen store. The area's road infrastructure cannot support the proposed store and without doubt it will have far more negatives than positives for the residents of Bishops Waltham
I agree with you 110% if sainsburys were that desperate to put in a store then the buyout of the budgens store would have benefited. Why ruin the lovely surroundings and wildlife of Bishops waltham with a large building like this one. Bishops waltham used to pride itself with community and the wildlife of the pond, this will all be lost. Good work BWAG
Have you even seen the proposed building??.
Or seen where it will be situated?.?.
And wildlife??..what wildlife is there on a disused bus depot?.
Really now come on?.
Stop jumping on the Liberal bandwagon.
There are proposals in place to make the area better , at the moment it is run down and not used.
Next time you drive through BW take a detour behind the pond and then make a judgement.
Bad work BWAG

B-oring
W-hingers
A-gainst
G-rowth

Stupideditor says...
6:22pm Tue 23 Feb 10

Ragworm wrote:
Stupideditor wrote:
Ted Rogers wrote: Good for BWAG - There is no need for another supermarket in Bishops Waltham and as they indicate, that site could be put to far better use. If Sainsburys are so intent on having a presence in Bishops Waltham why don't they exercise their corporate muscle and buy the Budgen store. The area's road infrastructure cannot support the proposed store and without doubt it will have far more negatives than positives for the residents of Bishops Waltham
I agree with you 110% if sainsburys were that desperate to put in a store then the buyout of the budgens store would have benefited. Why ruin the lovely surroundings and wildlife of Bishops waltham with a large building like this one. Bishops waltham used to pride itself with community and the wildlife of the pond, this will all be lost. Good work BWAG
Have you even seen the proposed building??. Or seen where it will be situated?.?. And wildlife??..what wildlife is there on a disused bus depot?. Really now come on?. Stop jumping on the Liberal bandwagon. There are proposals in place to make the area better , at the moment it is run down and not used. Next time you drive through BW take a detour behind the pond and then make a judgement. Bad work BWAG B-oring W-hingers A-gainst G-rowth
I know Bishops waltham very well as used to live there and parents still live in a near by village. The area will turn to trash the village will be practically inpassable, there is plenty of wildlife in and around the pond and down the old railway line.

It won't be long, with the building of low cost housing, that all green space between BW and Hedge end will have gone and farming pushed out of the Village, to which sainburys won't be using their products and supporting local produce.

Yes I have seen the plans and will look like a blot on the landscape, a windturbine would look better!

Bishops waltham has an inceasing drinking problem the allocation of this suppermarket will only encourage more drink related crime and then the residents will complain, which will them be far too late.

Keep the beauty of Bishops Waltham don't destroy it.

Ragworm says...
6:37pm Tue 23 Feb 10

Stupideditor wrote:
Ragworm wrote:
Stupideditor wrote:
Ted Rogers wrote: Good for BWAG - There is no need for another supermarket in Bishops Waltham and as they indicate, that site could be put to far better use. If Sainsburys are so intent on having a presence in Bishops Waltham why don't they exercise their corporate muscle and buy the Budgen store. The area's road infrastructure cannot support the proposed store and without doubt it will have far more negatives than positives for the residents of Bishops Waltham
I agree with you 110% if sainsburys were that desperate to put in a store then the buyout of the budgens store would have benefited. Why ruin the lovely surroundings and wildlife of Bishops waltham with a large building like this one. Bishops waltham used to pride itself with community and the wildlife of the pond, this will all be lost. Good work BWAG
Have you even seen the proposed building??. Or seen where it will be situated?.?. And wildlife??..what wildlife is there on a disused bus depot?. Really now come on?. Stop jumping on the Liberal bandwagon. There are proposals in place to make the area better , at the moment it is run down and not used. Next time you drive through BW take a detour behind the pond and then make a judgement. Bad work BWAG B-oring W-hingers A-gainst G-rowth
I know Bishops waltham very well as used to live there and parents still live in a near by village. The area will turn to trash the village will be practically inpassable, there is plenty of wildlife in and around the pond and down the old railway line. It won't be long, with the building of low cost housing, that all green space between BW and Hedge end will have gone and farming pushed out of the Village, to which sainburys won't be using their products and supporting local produce. Yes I have seen the plans and will look like a blot on the landscape, a windturbine would look better! Bishops waltham has an inceasing drinking problem the allocation of this suppermarket will only encourage more drink related crime and then the residents will complain, which will them be far too late. Keep the beauty of Bishops Waltham don't destroy it.
Think you are getting BW confused with somewhere else.
Increase in drink related crime??..not here?..no one can afford it.
Green space between BW and H end??..thats called Durley!!!.
A blot on the landscape???..
Hidden behind well established trees..no more of a Blot than the new flats where little chef was and budgens itself ,or the petrol stations. Its not in the middle of a bloody field.
The Beauty of BW as you put it is the surrounding countryside, places like ashton and dundridge.
BW is a town like any other and needs to support its community with a large shopping centre, not the rubbish little shops we have at present.
PLEASE PLEASE keep giving me reasons not to build as i have not yet seen one i agree with.

Stupideditor says...
6:48pm Tue 23 Feb 10

Durley is a very nice area, as is curbridge, waltham chase, shirrell heath, droxford etc.

The only shopping centre it needs is one that fits in well with it's surroundings and this sainsburys store does not. You may not be aware but drink crime in and around Bishops waltham is increasing thanks to increased low cost council housing putting more people out of built up areas and into beautiful countryside based towns.

Bishops waltham deserves more and it's residents should support it without polluting it further.

Stupideditor says...
7:17pm Tue 23 Feb 10

This may sound cornie but to me Bishops Waltham means local business for local people not multi million pound corperation stealing local industry and trading.

Bishops waltham and surrounding villages want to support local companies with a choice and not to have large corporation pitches destroy local community

Ragworm says...
8:35pm Tue 23 Feb 10

Stupideditor wrote:
This may sound cornie but to me Bishops Waltham means local business for local people not multi million pound corperation stealing local industry and trading. Bishops waltham and surrounding villages want to support local companies with a choice and not to have large corporation pitches destroy local community
Talking out of your Ar$e..
Typical outsiders point of view based on nothing.

Ragworm says...
8:38pm Tue 23 Feb 10

SAY YES TO SAINSBURYS !!!!!!!

BWAG NOT IN MY NAME !!!

Ragworm says...
8:39pm Tue 23 Feb 10

SAY YES TO SAINSBURYS !!!!!!!

BWAG NOT IN MY NAME !!!

Ragworm says...
8:39pm Tue 23 Feb 10

SAY YES TO SAINSBURYS !!!!!!!

BWAG NOT IN MY NAME !!!

Ragworm says...
8:39pm Tue 23 Feb 10

SAY YES TO SAINSBURYS !!!!!!!

BWAG NOT IN MY NAME !!!

Ragworm says...
8:39pm Tue 23 Feb 10

SAY YES TO SAINSBURYS !!!!!!!

BWAG NOT IN MY NAME !!!

Ragworm says...
8:39pm Tue 23 Feb 10

SAY YES TO SAINSBURYS !!!!!!!

BWAG NOT IN MY NAME !!!

Ragworm says...
8:39pm Tue 23 Feb 10

SAY YES TO SAINSBURYS !!!!!!!

BWAG NOT IN MY NAME !!!

Ragworm says...
8:39pm Tue 23 Feb 10

SAY YES TO SAINSBURYS !!!!!!!

BWAG NOT IN MY NAME !!!

Ragworm says...
8:39pm Tue 23 Feb 10

SAY YES TO SAINSBURYS !!!!!!!

BWAG NOT IN MY NAME !!!

Ragworm says...
8:39pm Tue 23 Feb 10

SAY YES TO SAINSBURYS !!!!!!!

BWAG NOT IN MY NAME !!!

Ragworm says...
8:39pm Tue 23 Feb 10

SAY YES TO SAINSBURYS !!!!!!!

BWAG NOT IN MY NAME !!!

Ragworm says...
8:39pm Tue 23 Feb 10

SAY YES TO SAINSBURYS !!!!!!!

BWAG NOT IN MY NAME !!!

Ragworm says...
8:39pm Tue 23 Feb 10

SAY YES TO SAINSBURYS !!!!!!!

BWAG NOT IN MY NAME !!!

Ragworm says...
8:39pm Tue 23 Feb 10

SAY YES TO SAINSBURYS !!!!!!!

BWAG NOT IN MY NAME !!!

Ragworm says...
8:39pm Tue 23 Feb 10

SAY YES TO SAINSBURYS !!!!!!!

BWAG NOT IN MY NAME !!!

Ragworm says...
8:39pm Tue 23 Feb 10

SAY YES TO SAINSBURYS !!!!!!!

BWAG NOT IN MY NAME !!!

The Live Guru says...
8:51pm Tue 23 Feb 10

You have displayed a number of real 'Qualities' on this thread.
You have no real sense or understanding of community.
You try and shout down and abuse people who don't share your view.
You then repeatedly post a comment like an immature child would.
I think Sainsburys may well be in contact with you concerning their vacancy for a poster boy; you would surely swing it for them!
Well done BWAG - Don't let the corporate vultures eradicate the character of your town and ruin the sense of community many feel.

Stupideditor says...
9:20pm Tue 23 Feb 10

Ragworm wrote:
Stupideditor wrote: This may sound cornie but to me Bishops Waltham means local business for local people not multi million pound corperation stealing local industry and trading. Bishops waltham and surrounding villages want to support local companies with a choice and not to have large corporation pitches destroy local community
Talking out of your Ar$e.. Typical outsiders point of view based on nothing.
Not once have I made a personnal attack at you and i'm not a complete outsider as I said' or has you seive of a brain forgotten, in previous posts my family live in the bishops waltham catchment area and I visit the town on a regular basis.

After typing the same thing 16 times did that sieve of yours turn into a colander and the bigger holes let all forms of human function ran out.

Obviously Bishops Waltham means nothing to you in the form of community, environment, business, farming etc. You'd be better of living in Fawley if you like large corporate blots at your front door

I think a poster boy will be too complicated for him, more of a trolley collector/ carpark attendent will suite better.

Ragworm says...
6:27am Wed 24 Feb 10

The Live Guru wrote:
You have displayed a number of real 'Qualities' on this thread. You have no real sense or understanding of community. You try and shout down and abuse people who don't share your view. You then repeatedly post a comment like an immature child would. I think Sainsburys may well be in contact with you concerning their vacancy for a poster boy; you would surely swing it for them! Well done BWAG - Don't let the corporate vultures eradicate the character of your town and ruin the sense of community many feel.
Right ok , i assume you are refering to me.

"You have no real sense or understanding of community."

Please elaborate??..I believe a supermarket is a great centre for the community.

"You try and shout down and abuse people who don't share your view"... People in glass houses!!!


"You then repeatedly post a comment like an immature child would"...Have you seen the "say NO to sainsburys" posters around the town centre?..

"poster boy" .. Sorry , what decade are you living in?.

"Well done BWAG - Don't let the corporate vultures eradicate the character of your town and ruin the sense of community many feel."... Not in the part of BW i live in, we all want this and need a choice of where to shop ON A BUDGET..HAlf the BWAG are shop keepers and wealthy land owners, or have been brainwashed because they were from a time when BW was a nice Village.

Ragworm says...
6:33am Wed 24 Feb 10

Stupideditor wrote:
Ragworm wrote:
Stupideditor wrote: This may sound cornie but to me Bishops Waltham means local business for local people not multi million pound corperation stealing local industry and trading. Bishops waltham and surrounding villages want to support local companies with a choice and not to have large corporation pitches destroy local community
Talking out of your Ar$e.. Typical outsiders point of view based on nothing.
Not once have I made a personnal attack at you and i'm not a complete outsider as I said' or has you seive of a brain forgotten, in previous posts my family live in the bishops waltham catchment area and I visit the town on a regular basis. After typing the same thing 16 times did that sieve of yours turn into a colander and the bigger holes let all forms of human function ran out. Obviously Bishops Waltham means nothing to you in the form of community, environment, business, farming etc. You'd be better of living in Fawley if you like large corporate blots at your front door I think a poster boy will be too complicated for him, more of a trolley collector/ carpark attendent will suite better.
Personal Attack?.."has you seive of a brain forgotten"..
Good one..
Ok so your family live in the catchment area.???..
And you visit the town...??
So.. that does not make you any part of the community.
You are welcome to your opinion of course, but don't try and paint BW like some chocolate box Village, that went decades ago.
Its time to serve the community with adequate facilities, a large supermarket is just the start.
Stop living in the past,it'll get you nowhere.

Waysider says...
7:39am Wed 24 Feb 10

While en-route to the Borders some years back to visit the Grandchildren.
I thought that we could make a stop off in Northallerton (N/Yorkshire), as I imagined it to be a quaint old English market town. But alas, on entering the town, the first thing I noticed was a large construction site with the name 'TESCO' on a placard, needless to say "my foot never touched the brake. Thoughts on how to bypass B/W with all the extra trafic while en -route to Corhampton is a poser, with the Street only suitable for one way trafic.

Ragworm says...
8:02am Wed 24 Feb 10

Waysider wrote:
While en-route to the Borders some years back to visit the Grandchildren. I thought that we could make a stop off in Northallerton (N/Yorkshire), as I imagined it to be a quaint old English market town. But alas, on entering the town, the first thing I noticed was a large construction site with the name 'TESCO' on a placard, needless to say "my foot never touched the brake. Thoughts on how to bypass B/W with all the extra trafic while en -route to Corhampton is a poser, with the Street only suitable for one way trafic.
You don't go anywhere near the Street to get to Corhampton???..
Try the Main B road?...
Solved your "poser".?..
And the Street is two way , and the Supermarket is not in the Street.
I really don't get your point.

Stupideditor says...
8:20am Wed 24 Feb 10

Ragworm wrote:
Stupideditor wrote:
Ragworm wrote:
Stupideditor wrote: This may sound cornie but to me Bishops Waltham means local business for local people not multi million pound corperation stealing local industry and trading. Bishops waltham and surrounding villages want to support local companies with a choice and not to have large corporation pitches destroy local community
Talking out of your Ar$e.. Typical outsiders point of view based on nothing.
Not once have I made a personnal attack at you and i'm not a complete outsider as I said' or has you seive of a brain forgotten, in previous posts my family live in the bishops waltham catchment area and I visit the town on a regular basis. After typing the same thing 16 times did that sieve of yours turn into a colander and the bigger holes let all forms of human function ran out. Obviously Bishops Waltham means nothing to you in the form of community, environment, business, farming etc. You'd be better of living in Fawley if you like large corporate blots at your front door I think a poster boy will be too complicated for him, more of a trolley collector/ carpark attendent will suite better.
Personal Attack?.."has you seive of a brain forgotten".. Good one.. Ok so your family live in the catchment area.???.. And you visit the town...?? So.. that does not make you any part of the community. You are welcome to your opinion of course, but don't try and paint BW like some chocolate box Village, that went decades ago. Its time to serve the community with adequate facilities, a large supermarket is just the start. Stop living in the past,it'll get you nowhere.
I was born and bought up in Eastways and lived there for 8 years so Bishops Waltham is my hometown and has stamped a very good memory in my mind. Everyone there knew their neighbour, supported/ worked for local business setup by local people.

Then people like you come along wanting more flats and residential buildings and destroy everything this town was built on.

This area should be used for something more fitting for Bishops Waltham.

Ragworm says...
8:46am Wed 24 Feb 10

Stupideditor wrote:
Ragworm wrote:
Stupideditor wrote:
Ragworm wrote:
Stupideditor wrote: This may sound cornie but to me Bishops Waltham means local business for local people not multi million pound corperation stealing local industry and trading. Bishops waltham and surrounding villages want to support local companies with a choice and not to have large corporation pitches destroy local community
Talking out of your Ar$e.. Typical outsiders point of view based on nothing.
Not once have I made a personnal attack at you and i'm not a complete outsider as I said' or has you seive of a brain forgotten, in previous posts my family live in the bishops waltham catchment area and I visit the town on a regular basis. After typing the same thing 16 times did that sieve of yours turn into a colander and the bigger holes let all forms of human function ran out. Obviously Bishops Waltham means nothing to you in the form of community, environment, business, farming etc. You'd be better of living in Fawley if you like large corporate blots at your front door I think a poster boy will be too complicated for him, more of a trolley collector/ carpark attendent will suite better.
Personal Attack?.."has you seive of a brain forgotten".. Good one.. Ok so your family live in the catchment area.???.. And you visit the town...?? So.. that does not make you any part of the community. You are welcome to your opinion of course, but don't try and paint BW like some chocolate box Village, that went decades ago. Its time to serve the community with adequate facilities, a large supermarket is just the start. Stop living in the past,it'll get you nowhere.
I was born and bought up in Eastways and lived there for 8 years so Bishops Waltham is my hometown and has stamped a very good memory in my mind. Everyone there knew their neighbour, supported/ worked for local business setup by local people. Then people like you come along wanting more flats and residential buildings and destroy everything this town was built on. This area should be used for something more fitting for Bishops Waltham.
Oh MY GOD, if you had bothered to read my previous posts you would see i have lived here my whole life.
I know what BW is like, you can leave your doors unlocked etc.
I am very much apposed to more flats , again if you has read my posts above, i mourn the loss of the old mill , little chef , tyrella, and more and more back gardens are being made into mini esates.
I hate this, but its making our town larger , so therefore, using a disused bus depot/industrial park as a supermarket is a BRILLIANT idea.
I myself was part of a high street business that was crushed by the buying power of Coop and One stop, so i know what its like.
But that is business, no room for nostalgia.

Stupideditor says...
11:51am Wed 24 Feb 10

Well if your business was crushed by the likes of co-op and one-stop then you'll be more aware that mass corperation presence in a small town is not suitable and local business run by local people providing local products make more sence then having thousands from neighbouring villages bung up the roads thus making Bishops waltham a very unattractive place to visit and live.

This store will bring more upset and missery to the locals yet the only good thing is that it will provide job security for local emergency service with the increase of drink related crime, RTC's, theft etc...

Stupideditor says...
11:55am Wed 24 Feb 10

and a job for someone to sift the pond from detritis consisting of sweet wrappers, trollys and baskets, shopping bags etc..

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