£23m bid to find 'safe' cigarettes (From Daily Echo)
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£23m bid to find 'safe' cigarettes
12:32pm Wednesday 10th March 2010 in
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- By Gareth Lewis » Business Editor
BRITISH American Tobacco is investing £23m into its Southampton base in a bid to develop a “safe” cigarette.
On national No Smoking Day, the Daily Echo can reveal that the company now employs more people in the city than when it made billions of cigarettes a year.
It means Southampton is now home to one of the world’s leading smoking research centres, which is currently examining 40 different varieties of safer cigarettes.
Bosses say they are committed to the city long-term.
But critics have described the work being done at the plant as “tinkering” and say it will still leave a product that causes serious health problems.
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southy
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1:11pm Wed 10 Mar 10
SouthamptonLegend
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1:18pm Wed 10 Mar 10
southy wrote:LOL
smoke hemp its much safer than tobacco
You are joking right?
Smoking that stuff will increase your health problems by 20 times. Plus you'll lose your mind.
Higginz
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1:22pm Wed 10 Mar 10
SouthamptonLegend wrote:I also believe everything I read in the Daily Mail.
southy wrote: smoke hemp its much safer than tobaccoLOL You are joking right? Smoking that stuff will increase your health problems by 20 times. Plus you'll lose your mind.
cygnus
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1:23pm Wed 10 Mar 10
southy wrote:If this was facebook I would click 'Like'
smoke hemp its much safer than tobacco
Anyway... BAT spend 23M on finding/making this so called safe ciggy. But it's gonna hike the price up of them making normal ciggys the cheaper option. I know what I would choose.
Cyber-Fug
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1:27pm Wed 10 Mar 10
SouthamptonLegend wrote:Ah.... at last..... an explanation as to why Southy is like he is ;o)
southy wrote:LOL
smoke hemp its much safer than tobacco
You are joking right?
Smoking that stuff will increase your health problems by 20 times. Plus you'll lose your mind.
southy
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1:30pm Wed 10 Mar 10
SouthamptonLegend wrote:no it dont there is a less natural health problems in hemp than there is in tobacco and alcohol, losing your mind is a problem that alcohol will do to you not hemp. because hemp dont damage brain cells though dehydration where has alcohol do
southy wrote:LOL
smoke hemp its much safer than tobacco
You are joking right?
Smoking that stuff will increase your health problems by 20 times. Plus you'll lose your mind.
southy
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1:38pm Wed 10 Mar 10
Cyber-Fug wrote:the difference is i dont drink alcohol, and i roll my ciggs, so i dont get that added chemical sulphur that they add to taylor ciggs
SouthamptonLegend wrote:Ah.... at last..... an explanation as to why Southy is like he is ;o)
southy wrote:LOL
smoke hemp its much safer than tobacco
You are joking right?
Smoking that stuff will increase your health problems by 20 times. Plus you'll lose your mind.
freefinker
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2:38pm Wed 10 Mar 10
"Safe" cigarettes? Do me a favour. It’s just another industry attempt at trying to project a positive image to counter the truth of the product they push - a highly addictive product that kills people prematurely.
My View from the Hill
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3:00pm Wed 10 Mar 10
southy wrote:That's why you often talk ballacks then Southy, I have wondered
smoke hemp its much safer than tobacco
southy
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3:44pm Wed 10 Mar 10
My View from the Hill wrote:apart from i do not smoke the stuff, hemp is a lot safer than some of your legal forms of drugs. like tobacco and alcohol and is not addictive. there is a lot of bs that surrounds hemp and it is also not a drug that makes you aggressive unlike alcohol can make people very aggressive, hemp is more of a pacifier.
southy wrote:That's why you often talk ballacks then Southy, I have wondered
smoke hemp its much safer than tobacco
freefinker
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5:42pm Wed 10 Mar 10
Is this not an illogical position to take?
bairn1
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5:48pm Wed 10 Mar 10
In terms of creating employment, I wonder how many people currently employed by BAT and earning a good living for themselves and their families would agree with your comments- very principled I'm sure, but as we know, principles don't pay the bills!Clearly the government does not share these principles, as tobacco taxes pay for roughly half the defence budget!
southy
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5:51pm Wed 10 Mar 10
freefinker wrote:i know just that tobacco is addictive and i like the taste off old holborn tobacco, it dont have any sulphur mix in it thats why its keeps going out and lasting much longer than a taylor fags.
Frivolously, southy, may I ask why you smoke dangerous tobacco and not safer hemp?
Is this not an illogical position to take?
native americans smoke pure tobacco has in rolls ups how many of them suffer from cancer though smoking pure tobacco, it a very low % to those that smoke taylor fags, sulphur is the big problem in tobacco.
freefinker
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6:24pm Wed 10 Mar 10
bairn1 wrote:But tobacco is still a dangerous and life-threatening addictive drug. And the tobacco industry (including BAT) is still irresponsibly pushing their drug into new markets where there was no previous tradition of tobacco consumption - China and other developing countries for example.
Freefinker-BAT produce and sell legal tobacco products to adults who have the freedom to make an informed decison on whether or not they choose to smoke.Surely looking for a safer alternative to traditional cigarettes is a responsible thing to do?
In terms of creating employment, I wonder how many people currently employed by BAT and earning a good living for themselves and their families would agree with your comments- very principled I'm sure, but as we know, principles don't pay the bills!Clearly the government does not share these principles, as tobacco taxes pay for roughly half the defence budget!
Knowing full well the dangers of this product, as they do, this is a totally irresponsible activity.
And if you are taken in by this “safer” nonsense then you are surely very gullible, or connected with the industry or their paid-for lobby groups – as the standard wording you use tends to make me believe. Safe tobacco a PR smokescreen (pun intended)
“Half the defence budget” you say, hum, perhaps you would like to inform us of the costs to the NHS, to the days lost to employment due to illness, to the suffering of those who have lost a dear one prematurely, etc, etc, ad infinitum.
And as for “BAT produce and sell legal tobacco products to adults who have the freedom to make an informed decision on whether or not they choose to smoke” – don’t make me laugh! Their advertising, worldwide, is ALWAYS aimed at the young. Why? – because the product is an addictive drug, the young are gullible and receptive to their cleaver marketing, and once you’ve got them hooked you have secured years of future sales.
Apart from the anomaly that this drug is legal, tobacco companies are morally no better than smack dealers.
10 Minute Man
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7:50pm Wed 10 Mar 10
--Nick-O-Teen, Big Tobacco spokesman.
As long as we can hook you in, we don't care, my little dependent addicts....
warness
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8:20pm Wed 10 Mar 10
they are so considerate to the community that I think of them as a big caring daddy.
I want to take up smoking now. Those guys wouldn't do us harm, would they?
Condor Man
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10:29pm Wed 10 Mar 10
freefinker
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11:02pm Wed 10 Mar 10
southy wrote:that's a very clear answer - now, what was the question?
freefinker wrote:i know just that tobacco is addictive and i like the taste off old holborn tobacco, it dont have any sulphur mix in it thats why its keeps going out and lasting much longer than a taylor fags.
Frivolously, southy, may I ask why you smoke dangerous tobacco and not safer hemp?
Is this not an illogical position to take?
native americans smoke pure tobacco has in rolls ups how many of them suffer from cancer though smoking pure tobacco, it a very low % to those that smoke taylor fags, sulphur is the big problem in tobacco.
southy
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11:08pm Wed 10 Mar 10
freefinker wrote:the question to the answer
southy wrote:that's a very clear answer - now, what was the question?
freefinker wrote:i know just that tobacco is addictive and i like the taste off old holborn tobacco, it dont have any sulphur mix in it thats why its keeps going out and lasting much longer than a taylor fags.
Frivolously, southy, may I ask why you smoke dangerous tobacco and not safer hemp?
Is this not an illogical position to take?
native americans smoke pure tobacco has in rolls ups how many of them suffer from cancer though smoking pure tobacco, it a very low % to those that smoke taylor fags, sulphur is the big problem in tobacco.
another word i enjoy my smoking has long its old holborn i will not smoke a taylor made cigg i all ways refuse any type of factory made ciggs
freefinker
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11:08pm Wed 10 Mar 10
Condor Man wrote:But, it's not "good for them", is it?
If people want to exercise their right to smoke and pay £5 a time for the priviledge then good for them.
Duncan Disorderly
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2:58am Thu 11 Mar 10
Waysider
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5:20am Thu 11 Mar 10
SouthamptonLegend wrote:Oh no!! southy without a mind, it's unthinkable.
southy wrote: smoke hemp its much safer than tobaccoLOL You are joking right? Smoking that stuff will increase your health problems by 20 times. Plus you'll lose your mind.
Stephen McAthey
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5:56am Thu 11 Mar 10
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Condor Man says...
12:56pm Wed 10 Mar 10