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6:00am Thursday 11th March 2010 in News
By Sian Davies, Senior News Reporter
GIVE yourselves up – or we will come and get you.
That is the message from Hampshire police hunting suspected troublemakers who marred the recent FA Cup derby between Saints and Pompey with scenes of shameful violence.
Today the Daily Echo can reveal ten suspects who are wanted for questioning after trouble flared in the aftermath of the match last month.
Hundreds of Saints fans streamed out of St Mary’s to confront Portsmouth supporters as they made their way along Britannia Road under police escort.
The flashpoint came at the Freeborn Motors garage when the home fans charged at the metal fencing, hurling bricks and even chairs and causing tens of thousands of pounds of damage.
The scenes were the worst in the wake of Portsmouth’s 4-1 victory on February 13.
Mounted police joined a force of 260 police officers to keep the peace between the south coast rivals. On the day ten arrests were made for public order offences. Six people have subsequently pleaded guilty.
The violence was captured on CCTV while also being filmed by the Hampshire police’s air support unit and officers filming on the ground.
Police have spent hundreds of hours scouring the footage and identified those who they believe were responsible for some of the worst violence that including threatening police officers.
Now they are calling on the public to help identify them and are appealing directly to those responsible to give themselves up.
Detective Sergeant Will Whale said: “On the day we conducted a successful policing operation but we said from the start that we would find those who were intent on causing serious public order and violence and we are living up to that promise.
“We have reviewed the evidence of those who were intent on causing trouble that day and can see evidence of people throwing missiles, threatening police officers and causing damage.
We will not tolerate that sort of behaviour and what must have been a frightening series of events for members of the public and families leaving the match to have witnessed.”
He called on those who recognised themselves in the pictures to come forward.
“The message is simple, we will identify you and find you so it would be better for you if you give yourself up now. I am also asking members of the community to help us identify these people and know that any information they give will be treated in confidence.”
Anyone who thinks they can help with the investigation is asked to call 0845 045 4545 or 101 quoting Operation Austen at Hulse Road. Alternatively information can be given anonymously to Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.
Comments(33)
clausentum
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7:30am Thu 11 Mar 10
D.a.v.e
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8:15am Thu 11 Mar 10
Irate Wintonian
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8:44am Thu 11 Mar 10
southy
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9:51am Thu 11 Mar 10
clausentum wrote:yes thats how many edl supporter's that go to the saints game.
"POLICE are hunting ten people they want to speak to after violent scenes following the recent Saints v Pompey match."
Only 10?
'ullo, 'ullo, 'ullo
The decimal point seems to have gone awry . . .
sw = rare-seek
Red&White Power
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10:01am Thu 11 Mar 10
hulla baloo
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10:11am Thu 11 Mar 10
Red&White Power wrote:I thought in this politically correct world, and along with other words, we could no longer use the term 'manhunt'.
No doubt all these people did nothing more than run around a bit and wave their hands. Using the term 'manhunt' usually suggests some sort of murder has taken place.
sotonwinch09
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11:00am Thu 11 Mar 10
St.DaveH
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11:52am Thu 11 Mar 10
southy
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12:33pm Thu 11 Mar 10
St.DaveH wrote:i notice a number of red and white shirts in the film in side freeborn garage. parking area. that the police went in to break them up, so who was to blame.
wot an ugly bunch - must all be sk8s
TwistedWitch
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1:02pm Thu 11 Mar 10
Redback
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2:10pm Thu 11 Mar 10
Jammy Donut
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2:29pm Thu 11 Mar 10
Carpe Diem
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2:36pm Thu 11 Mar 10
southy
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2:54pm Thu 11 Mar 10
Carpe Diem wrote:fair amount of stones and coins being thrown about. if you remember there was a number of damage cars, and if you look carefully you can see a number of saints fans throwing things i did see one pompy supporter throw some thing in the film.
Doesn't appear to be a lot of violence in the video clip. Lots of people gesticulating and milling around, who soon disperse when mounted plod arrive.
My View from the Hill
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3:55pm Thu 11 Mar 10
Bartonian
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3:55pm Thu 11 Mar 10
southy wrote:You and your flaming EDL!
clausentum wrote: "POLICE are hunting ten people they want to speak to after violent scenes following the recent Saints v Pompey match." Only 10? 'ullo, 'ullo, 'ullo The decimal point seems to have gone awry . . . sw = rare-seekyes thats how many edl supporter's that go to the saints game.
southy
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4:07pm Thu 11 Mar 10
Bartonian wrote:well what do you think, not taken into account that 4 edl members have been banned from st marys and any saint games all ready.
southy wrote:You and your flaming EDL!
clausentum wrote: "POLICE are hunting ten people they want to speak to after violent scenes following the recent Saints v Pompey match." Only 10? 'ullo, 'ullo, 'ullo The decimal point seems to have gone awry . . . sw = rare-seekyes thats how many edl supporter's that go to the saints game.
St.DaveH
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4:28pm Thu 11 Mar 10
southy wrote:Come on southy play the game, they were obviously sk8s in disguise....
St.DaveH wrote: wot an ugly bunch - must all be sk8si notice a number of red and white shirts in the film in side freeborn garage. parking area. that the police went in to break them up, so who was to blame.
Carpe Diem
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4:58pm Thu 11 Mar 10
Bartonian wrote:Bartonian, don't rise to the bait.
southy wrote:You and your flaming EDL!clausentum wrote: "POLICE are hunting ten people they want to speak to after violent scenes following the recent Saints v Pompey match." Only 10? 'ullo, 'ullo, 'ullo The decimal point seems to have gone awry . . . sw = rare-seekyes thats how many edl supporter's that go to the saints game.
southy
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5:09pm Thu 11 Mar 10
St.DaveH wrote:only wish they where dave
southy wrote:Come on southy play the game, they were obviously sk8s in disguise....
St.DaveH wrote: wot an ugly bunch - must all be sk8si notice a number of red and white shirts in the film in side freeborn garage. parking area. that the police went in to break them up, so who was to blame.
Redback
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5:48pm Thu 11 Mar 10
Bartonian wrote:The EDL deliberately recruit from football 'firms' - ie the organised violence mobs. The cross-over between football thugs and the fash EDL is huge. This is really no secret.
southy wrote:You and your flaming EDL!
clausentum wrote: "POLICE are hunting ten people they want to speak to after violent scenes following the recent Saints v Pompey match." Only 10? 'ullo, 'ullo, 'ullo The decimal point seems to have gone awry . . . sw = rare-seekyes thats how many edl supporter's that go to the saints game.
nicko
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7:45pm Thu 11 Mar 10
Linesman
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7:50pm Thu 11 Mar 10
My View from the Hill wrote:The police would not release video footage that they will use in court as evidence, as that could prejudice the case if seen by a prospective juror.
I would like to know what charges these people will face, all I can see from the video is, criminal damage to a herris fence and possible trespass. Hardly warrants a manhunt, does it?
My View from the Hill
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7:52pm Thu 11 Mar 10
Redback wrote:The EDL do attend football matches, and do recruit, but not from 'football 'firms' (this is not the Football Factory)
Bartonian wrote:The EDL deliberately recruit from football 'firms' - ie the organised violence mobs. The cross-over between football thugs and the fash EDL is huge. This is really no secret.
southy wrote:You and your flaming EDL!
clausentum wrote: "POLICE are hunting ten people they want to speak to after violent scenes following the recent Saints v Pompey match." Only 10? 'ullo, 'ullo, 'ullo The decimal point seems to have gone awry . . . sw = rare-seekyes thats how many edl supporter's that go to the saints game.
My View from the Hill
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7:57pm Thu 11 Mar 10
Linesman wrote:Linesman,
My View from the Hill wrote:The police would not release video footage that they will use in court as evidence, as that could prejudice the case if seen by a prospective juror.
I would like to know what charges these people will face, all I can see from the video is, criminal damage to a herris fence and possible trespass. Hardly warrants a manhunt, does it?
southy
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8:10pm Thu 11 Mar 10
My View from the Hill wrote:football grounds are there biggest recruit from. they also recruit in other areas to, for an example linsey oil refinery the edl was mixing with the picket lines much in the same way has the NF use to back in the 70's and 80's, the bnp was there to, when the strikers ask who was that lot giving it a lot of mouth they was told and got chase of the picket lines with the bnp in tail. this is another area they will feed on to recruit or cause trouble.
Redback wrote:The EDL do attend football matches, and do recruit, but not from 'football 'firms' (this is not the Football Factory)
Bartonian wrote:The EDL deliberately recruit from football 'firms' - ie the organised violence mobs. The cross-over between football thugs and the fash EDL is huge. This is really no secret.
southy wrote:You and your flaming EDL!
clausentum wrote: "POLICE are hunting ten people they want to speak to after violent scenes following the recent Saints v Pompey match." Only 10? 'ullo, 'ullo, 'ullo The decimal point seems to have gone awry . . . sw = rare-seekyes thats how many edl supporter's that go to the saints game.
The EDL are trying to recruit young lads, who come together from all over Southampton on a Saturday, these young lads are from area's in the city that are suffering deprivation, where unemployment is rife, crime is is occurring on an almost daily basis, where drugs are readily available and where prospects of change is almost null and void.
Whether it be Redbridge, Thornhill, Millbrook, Sholing, Lordshill, it doesn't matter to the EDL, what they feed on these young lads that have no prospects, no jobs, no money, no hope, but what they have in common is football, the EDL see this, they know what's happening on the estates in this city, they know we have large numbers of foreign nationals living within Southampton, and blame those foreign nationals for the woe's of the city, the EDL can't do it/recruit on the estates so they use a football match for their recruiting.
Until these fascist thugs are barred from football, people like you Redback will always associate them to football.
Take a look at the next football match that EDL attend in Southampton, you will not see them trying to recruit older supporters (25/30 year old fans) but the youngsters, they are doing the same Luton.
My View from the Hill
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8:29pm Thu 11 Mar 10
southy wrote:As I said Southy, they will not recruit older people, they try to recruit impressionable youngster who blame others from other countries for the state of the nation, they will not try to recruit older people because they will be seen off like at Linsey, I just can't stand to hear people blaming football suppporters for something that is not a football problem like Redback insinuated.
My View from the Hill wrote:football grounds are there biggest recruit from. they also recruit in other areas to, for an example linsey oil refinery the edl was mixing with the picket lines much in the same way has the NF use to back in the 70's and 80's, the bnp was there to, when the strikers ask who was that lot giving it a lot of mouth they was told and got chase of the picket lines with the bnp in tail. this is another area they will feed on to recruit or cause trouble.
Redback wrote:The EDL do attend football matches, and do recruit, but not from 'football 'firms' (this is not the Football Factory)
Bartonian wrote:The EDL deliberately recruit from football 'firms' - ie the organised violence mobs. The cross-over between football thugs and the fash EDL is huge. This is really no secret.
southy wrote:You and your flaming EDL!
clausentum wrote: "POLICE are hunting ten people they want to speak to after violent scenes following the recent Saints v Pompey match." Only 10? 'ullo, 'ullo, 'ullo The decimal point seems to have gone awry . . . sw = rare-seekyes thats how many edl supporter's that go to the saints game.
The EDL are trying to recruit young lads, who come together from all over Southampton on a Saturday, these young lads are from area's in the city that are suffering deprivation, where unemployment is rife, crime is is occurring on an almost daily basis, where drugs are readily available and where prospects of change is almost null and void.
Whether it be Redbridge, Thornhill, Millbrook, Sholing, Lordshill, it doesn't matter to the EDL, what they feed on these young lads that have no prospects, no jobs, no money, no hope, but what they have in common is football, the EDL see this, they know what's happening on the estates in this city, they know we have large numbers of foreign nationals living within Southampton, and blame those foreign nationals for the woe's of the city, the EDL can't do it/recruit on the estates so they use a football match for their recruiting.
Until these fascist thugs are barred from football, people like you Redback will always associate them to football.
Take a look at the next football match that EDL attend in Southampton, you will not see them trying to recruit older supporters (25/30 year old fans) but the youngsters, they are doing the same Luton.
Reality-man
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9:36pm Thu 11 Mar 10
southy
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10:05pm Thu 11 Mar 10
Linesman
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10:57pm Thu 11 Mar 10
My View from the Hill wrote:There is obviously more video available to the police. This was just an overview of the scene for the public to see how many were involved.
Linesman wrote:Linesman, I was on about the accompanying video with this story, if these people were part of that group, I didn't see anything on it that warranted a manhunt. I know the police wouldn't release anything that would prejudice their case.My View from the Hill wrote: I would like to know what charges these people will face, all I can see from the video is, criminal damage to a herris fence and possible trespass. Hardly warrants a manhunt, does it?The police would not release video footage that they will use in court as evidence, as that could prejudice the case if seen by a prospective juror.
Retreat to Gandamack
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2:36am Fri 12 Mar 10
Redback
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10:55am Fri 12 Mar 10
My View from the Hill wrote:No, you've misunderstood me. I'm not associating them with football fans, but 'firms' - thugs who I don't count as fans personally.
southy wrote:As I said Southy, they will not recruit older people, they try to recruit impressionable youngster who blame others from other countries for the state of the nation, they will not try to recruit older people because they will be seen off like at Linsey, I just can't stand to hear people blaming football suppporters for something that is not a football problem like Redback insinuated.
My View from the Hill wrote:football grounds are there biggest recruit from. they also recruit in other areas to, for an example linsey oil refinery the edl was mixing with the picket lines much in the same way has the NF use to back in the 70's and 80's, the bnp was there to, when the strikers ask who was that lot giving it a lot of mouth they was told and got chase of the picket lines with the bnp in tail. this is another area they will feed on to recruit or cause trouble.
Redback wrote:The EDL do attend football matches, and do recruit, but not from 'football 'firms' (this is not the Football Factory)
Bartonian wrote:The EDL deliberately recruit from football 'firms' - ie the organised violence mobs. The cross-over between football thugs and the fash EDL is huge. This is really no secret.
southy wrote:You and your flaming EDL!
clausentum wrote: "POLICE are hunting ten people they want to speak to after violent scenes following the recent Saints v Pompey match." Only 10? 'ullo, 'ullo, 'ullo The decimal point seems to have gone awry . . . sw = rare-seekyes thats how many edl supporter's that go to the saints game.
The EDL are trying to recruit young lads, who come together from all over Southampton on a Saturday, these young lads are from area's in the city that are suffering deprivation, where unemployment is rife, crime is is occurring on an almost daily basis, where drugs are readily available and where prospects of change is almost null and void.
Whether it be Redbridge, Thornhill, Millbrook, Sholing, Lordshill, it doesn't matter to the EDL, what they feed on these young lads that have no prospects, no jobs, no money, no hope, but what they have in common is football, the EDL see this, they know what's happening on the estates in this city, they know we have large numbers of foreign nationals living within Southampton, and blame those foreign nationals for the woe's of the city, the EDL can't do it/recruit on the estates so they use a football match for their recruiting.
Until these fascist thugs are barred from football, people like you Redback will always associate them to football.
Take a look at the next football match that EDL attend in Southampton, you will not see them trying to recruit older supporters (25/30 year old fans) but the youngsters, they are doing the same Luton.
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Rudd Gillett says...
6:21am Thu 11 Mar 10