Government urged not to deny funds to Hampshire’s health service (From Daily Echo)

It stands to reason that the north gets more, it has for the past 13 years given the number of Labour MP's in that part of the country. We receive a lower direct grant from the government compared to cities of a similar size in the north too.

Completely meaningless figures in my opinion. There's a massive health disparity, so it makes sense that there's difference in bed numbers.

Non-story.

Difficult to decide without reading the whole report. Reporting of selective quotes may give wrong impressions.
Main problem is the violation of principles on which Bevan created our National Health Service. Both Tory and Labour governments are guilty of destroying the wonderful dream of Bevan that rest of the world admired. Rather than a Health ‘Service’ they have turned it into a business managed not by the medics but by accountants.
There should be absolutely no discrimination in providing care for sick where ever they live. One standard for one part of the country and different for another is unacceptable. If there is any favouritism on the basis of political affiliations of certain areas it must be condemned without any reservation. We should be destroying the political health of the Tories not the physical well being of individuals.

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Difficult to decide without reading the whole report. Reporting of selective quotes may give wrong impressions. Main problem is the violation of principles on which Bevan created our National Health Service. Both Tory and Labour governments are guilty of destroying the wonderful dream of Bevan that rest of the world admired. Rather than a Health ‘Service’ they have turned it into a business managed not by the medics but by accountants. There should be absolutely no discrimination in providing care for sick where ever they live. One standard for one part of the country and different for another is unacceptable. If there is any favouritism on the basis of political affiliations of certain areas it must be condemned without any reservation. We should be destroying the political health of the Tories not the physical well being of individuals.

Agree with your views regarding the care of patients, but disagree regarding the comment about the Tories.
Whilst we all have our own views and bias to one particular party, there is good and bad in them all.
We should be destroying the political health of under and badly performing politicians, regardless of their party, and try to restore credibility and faith into politics.
Hard job, I know.

Agreed hulla baloo. Unfortunately, Paramjit is a politician himself, and so will always be driven by a party political agenda.

Don't trust any politician. (Even a failed one).

The North, maybe, are more unhealthy because more are out of work , many teenage kids have lost the will to look for ANY kind of work thus not having a good standard of living, hence their state of health not so good and need hospital beds more, but then the South are rapidly following in their footsteps. There is so much building of flats and stuffing villages with dwellings and soon we will have ghettos like the north. I also feel the north is Labours stronghold and it pays for PM Brown to keep them sweet! I also have a suspicion that the more beds they close down here the more will be franchised to private clinics. It all smacks of hidden agendas.
Governments must blame themselves for this dreadful state we are in and their inability to run a country plus the huge outlays in running an army of quangos.

goard

an agenda followed by the likes of Ed Balls

hulla baloo wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote: Difficult to decide without reading the whole report. Reporting of selective quotes may give wrong impressions. Main problem is the violation of principles on which Bevan created our National Health Service. Both Tory and Labour governments are guilty of destroying the wonderful dream of Bevan that rest of the world admired. Rather than a Health ‘Service’ they have turned it into a business managed not by the medics but by accountants. There should be absolutely no discrimination in providing care for sick where ever they live. One standard for one part of the country and different for another is unacceptable. If there is any favouritism on the basis of political affiliations of certain areas it must be condemned without any reservation. We should be destroying the political health of the Tories not the physical well being of individuals.

Agree with your views regarding the care of patients, but disagree regarding the comment about the Tories. Whilst we all have our own views and bias to one particular party, there is good and bad in them all. We should be destroying the political health of under and badly performing politicians, regardless of their party, and try to restore credibility and faith into politics. Hard job, I know.

Thanks for constructive criticism. I could not agree more. Yes all the bad apples need sorting out whichever political party they belong to and no single party has the monopoly of wisdom.
Perhaps having spent most of my life in 'tribal' type politics I have forgotten how to resist taking a dig at the Tories. Wish more people made views like yours known, that would force the likes of me to work for ideal political environment.

I take it that the Echo aren't covering the story about Winchester's Olaf Schmid's posthumous George Cross, that's a real shame.

Redback wrote:
Agreed hulla baloo. Unfortunately, Paramjit is a politician himself, and so will always be driven by a party political agenda. Don't trust any politician. (Even a failed one).

Redback, as it is at the moment I am not member of any political party. Yes I support the left of centre political thought, and oppose most right of centre political set ups, but certainly am not involved in promoting any established political party's agenda.

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

Redback wrote:
Agreed hulla baloo. Unfortunately, Paramjit is a politician himself, and so will always be driven by a party political agenda. Don't trust any politician. (Even a failed one).

Redback, as it is at the moment I am not member of any political party. Yes I support the left of centre political thought, and oppose most right of centre political set ups, but certainly am not involved in promoting any established political party's agenda.

I'm also very much left of centre Paramjit.

What's very evident though is that you take EVERY opportunity to shoe-horn a party political angle into every debate, whether you're formerly aligned to any one party or not.

Normally I agree with most of the points You make but this is brainless nonsense.

Whatever your views about about Mr Bahia, sweeping statements about not trusting any politicians is the slogan of the pub drunk who always "knows the true story".

Ok, so we only elect people who (in your mind) are not politicians. By getting elected they become politicians so we then have to stop trusting them.

If you actually believe that every single person who belongs to a political party is corrupt then you are a fool. If you believe that anyone who claims not to trust any politician is themselves trustworthy then you are more of a fool.

And if you believe that anyone who claims not to trust anyone who claims that anyone who claims that you cannot trust anyone who all politicians claim cannot be trusted by anyone who claims that all politicians are untrustworthy then you are even more a fool.

Or something. I dunno, I'm confused now.