World cup flag crackdown 'a disgrace' (From Daily Echo)
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Southampton England fan proud to dress his house for World Cup
2:20pm Friday 21st May 2010 in News
Tony Baddams, left, and his family with their patriotic house.
FOOTBALL fans across Southampton have joined forces to describe the council’s crackdown on St George’s flags as a disgrace.
They have backed council tenant Karl Staples who is determined to keep the banners, bunting and balloons he has put up outside his flat in Weston, despite being told by housing bosses to take them down.
Supporters include football nut Tony Baddams who had just put the finishing touches to his home in St Mary’s.
The avid England support ter has adorned every inch of his four-bedroom terrace rented house with England flags, shirts and even fluffy dice.
Not even the windows and doors of the Derby Road property have escaped being plastered with giant flags in a bid by Tony to show the depth of his support for the national side. Tony, 42, said: “It has taken the best part of a week but it is well worth it. It is what I do every World Cup and this year I have decided to cover every inch of the house.
“The council should use a bit of common sense, this is the World Cup and it is a show of support for the team.”
To add an international flavour, Tony, a father of four and grandfather to two, has strung up flags from the other World Cup nations. But it will be England all the way when the kick-off comes. His wife Anita, 39 is right behind him.
Tim Murray, the south coast representative for the England supporters club also voiced his support for Karl.
He said: “It is a disgrace. It shows that some people have not got anything better to spend their time or taxpayers’ money on. This is a guy who just wants to support his football team and they should show some common sense.”
However, Southampton City Council insisted they were fully supportive of tenants showing their support for their team, but the number and size of flags had to be reasonable.
They said there were rules governing what could be displayed on council owned property and in communal areas.
As a result they said no flags on the Weston flat would be removed until they had a chance to speak to Mr Staples to work out a compromise.
Cllr Phil Williams said a meeting between housing officials was being planned to work out how a middle ground could be reached.
Comments(32)
Adrian Smith
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2:33pm Fri 21 May 10
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So it looks like those rules were broken then. Perhaps some pencil neck from the Council could spell out exactly what they are and where they are printed/downloadable
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charbob
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3:07pm Fri 21 May 10
Shoong
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3:49pm Fri 21 May 10
Larry David
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4:05pm Fri 21 May 10
Union Jack shorts as well, a true patriot, good on yer !
And congrats, a grandfather of two at 42.
Elgy
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4:18pm Fri 21 May 10
And SCC, how typical. Whether it's true or not they have a habit of coming out looking like idiots.
Spokesman for the Animals
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4:27pm Fri 21 May 10
where did i say the union jack is a flag pole i did not, look again the union is the flag, the jack is the flag pole,
What a nidiot
baume
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4:34pm Fri 21 May 10
some people hey !!!!!
ToastyTea
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4:45pm Fri 21 May 10
Le Tissier's Nose
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4:47pm Fri 21 May 10
menotyou
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5:12pm Fri 21 May 10
baume
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5:40pm Fri 21 May 10
menotyou wrote:well said !!
why is it that there is ALWAYS some MORON that has to call someone a chav? so your a chav if you support your country in the world cup, a chav if you lose your job due to the recession and have to keep your family alive somehow, your a chav if you rent a property from the council, your a chav if you have children out of wedlock and your a chav if you live anywhere in southampton that is not large, gated and remote? well people i call myself a chav with pride if thats the case :)
The fool which stated the chav post is prob the real chav !!
menotyou
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5:59pm Fri 21 May 10
baume wrote:probably! although the irony is that i know tony and his family and they are actually some of the nicest people you could ever hope to meet and if they are chavs then there is really no hope for the rest of us lol :)
menotyou wrote: why is it that there is ALWAYS some MORON that has to call someone a chav? so your a chav if you support your country in the world cup, a chav if you lose your job due to the recession and have to keep your family alive somehow, your a chav if you rent a property from the council, your a chav if you have children out of wedlock and your a chav if you live anywhere in southampton that is not large, gated and remote? well people i call myself a chav with pride if thats the case :)well said !! The fool which stated the chav post is prob the real chav !!
samantha pia
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6:00pm Fri 21 May 10
SotonLad
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6:21pm Fri 21 May 10
wellthatsokthen
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7:23pm Fri 21 May 10
col123
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7:40pm Fri 21 May 10
freefinker
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8:18pm Fri 21 May 10
col123 wrote:.. "in words of one syllable"?
Spoesman for the animals,you have obviously had no connection with Ships in your life. The jack is a small Union flag flown from the jackstaff,a small flagpole on the prow(front end to landlubbers),this flag is the Union Jack.Ask any seafarer,past or present,they'll explain it to you in words of one syllable.
Well, you didn't manage it.
Anyone else want to try?
Scrutinizer
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9:17pm Fri 21 May 10
Red Shirt
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10:20pm Fri 21 May 10
PhoenixLives
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12:29am Sat 22 May 10
Mark Oxspent
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12:55am Sat 22 May 10
Fly a muslim or Pakistani flag and there will be no retorts but dare you fly the flag of St George and you are a heretic - Good luck to you
freefinker
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1:03am Sat 22 May 10
PhoenixLives wrote:.. oooh, I’ll leave BS to comment on that now he's back in Stubbington.
Um wasn't there a big fire? Didn't two firemen died? Maybe having all those flags hanging outside your house/flat is a fire risk, only takes one bright spark!
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Anyway, how dare you attempt to question people’s inalienable right to sound off about: -
some pencil neck from the Council.
a grandfather of two at 42.
Good on him.
be proud thats the way to be.
chavs do make me laugh.
Pompey.
so your a chav if ..
they are actually some of the nicest people ..
don't hang fairy lights outside.
CHAVS CHAVS CHAVS.
that really thick saddo chelsea fan.
in words of one syllable.
We are English.
Nice one Tony.
but dare you fly the flag of St George.
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Obviously this is FAR more important that even attempting to consider the risks of hanging extensive areas of flammable materials in and on a multi-occupational housing unit.
It seems memories are very short, very short indeed.
Spot O'Bother
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5:16am Sat 22 May 10
Redback
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7:38am Sat 22 May 10
There would certainly be 'retorts'. Probably a brick through the window in this lovely city.
menotyou
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9:16am Sat 22 May 10
PhoenixLives wrote:yeah there was a fire caused by a curtain near a lamp, you suggesting we sould all get rid of our curtains and lamps just incase? or maybe we should just all live our lives on what ifs??? and what you all think tony is a chav because he has grandchildren at 42?
Um wasn't there a big fire? Didn't two firemen died? Maybe having all those flags hanging outside your house/flat is a fire risk, only takes one bright spark!
A chav (pronounced /ˈtʃæv/ (CHAV)) is a stereotypical rough young person in the United Kingdom. The typical "chav"—known also as a charver in Yorkshire and North East England—is said to be an aggressive teenager, typically unemployed or of white working class background, who repeatedly engages in anti-social behaviour, such as street drinking, drug abuse and rowdiness, or other forms of juvenile delinquency.
since when is someone a teenager aged 42??? i think some of you need to get educated!
freefinker
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9:29am Sat 22 May 10
menotyou wrote:Isn't it an acronym?
PhoenixLives wrote:yeah there was a fire caused by a curtain near a lamp, you suggesting we sould all get rid of our curtains and lamps just incase? or maybe we should just all live our lives on what ifs??? and what you all think tony is a chav because he has grandchildren at 42?
Um wasn't there a big fire? Didn't two firemen died? Maybe having all those flags hanging outside your house/flat is a fire risk, only takes one bright spark!
A chav (pronounced /ˈtʃæv/ (CHAV)) is a stereotypical rough young person in the United Kingdom. The typical "chav"—known also as a charver in Yorkshire and North East England—is said to be an aggressive teenager, typically unemployed or of white working class background, who repeatedly engages in anti-social behaviour, such as street drinking, drug abuse and rowdiness, or other forms of juvenile delinquency.
since when is someone a teenager aged 42??? i think some of you need to get educated!
Congenital Halfwit And Vulgar.
Redback
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9:41am Sat 22 May 10
menotyou wrote:Your cut and paste job isn't authoratative. 'Chav' is slang and only has a loose definition.
PhoenixLives wrote:yeah there was a fire caused by a curtain near a lamp, you suggesting we sould all get rid of our curtains and lamps just incase? or maybe we should just all live our lives on what ifs??? and what you all think tony is a chav because he has grandchildren at 42?
Um wasn't there a big fire? Didn't two firemen died? Maybe having all those flags hanging outside your house/flat is a fire risk, only takes one bright spark!
A chav (pronounced /ˈtʃæv/ (CHAV)) is a stereotypical rough young person in the United Kingdom. The typical "chav"—known also as a charver in Yorkshire and North East England—is said to be an aggressive teenager, typically unemployed or of white working class background, who repeatedly engages in anti-social behaviour, such as street drinking, drug abuse and rowdiness, or other forms of juvenile delinquency.
since when is someone a teenager aged 42??? i think some of you need to get educated!
I agree that it's a a fairly unpleasant class-prejudice term of abuse, but your 'some of you need to get educated' comment is a bit misplaced in this context.
menotyou
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10:37am Sat 22 May 10
Redback wrote:yes well i just find it rather irritating when people are automatically labelled a chav because the people who tend to comment on here are hard pushed to think up a better word - why is everyone always so negative? tony is just trying to have a bit of fun so whats the problem?
menotyou wrote:Your cut and paste job isn't authoratative. 'Chav' is slang and only has a loose definition. I agree that it's a a fairly unpleasant class-prejudice term of abuse, but your 'some of you need to get educated' comment is a bit misplaced in this context.PhoenixLives wrote: Um wasn't there a big fire? Didn't two firemen died? Maybe having all those flags hanging outside your house/flat is a fire risk, only takes one bright spark!yeah there was a fire caused by a curtain near a lamp, you suggesting we sould all get rid of our curtains and lamps just incase? or maybe we should just all live our lives on what ifs??? and what you all think tony is a chav because he has grandchildren at 42? A chav (pronounced /ˈtʃæv/ (CHAV)) is a stereotypical rough young person in the United Kingdom. The typical "chav"—known also as a charver in Yorkshire and North East England—is said to be an aggressive teenager, typically unemployed or of white working class background, who repeatedly engages in anti-social behaviour, such as street drinking, drug abuse and rowdiness, or other forms of juvenile delinquency. since when is someone a teenager aged 42??? i think some of you need to get educated!
Redback
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10:59am Sat 22 May 10
menotyou wrote:It is irritating I agree.
Redback wrote:yes well i just find it rather irritating when people are automatically labelled a chav because the people who tend to comment on here are hard pushed to think up a better word - why is everyone always so negative? tony is just trying to have a bit of fun so whats the problem?
menotyou wrote:Your cut and paste job isn't authoratative. 'Chav' is slang and only has a loose definition. I agree that it's a a fairly unpleasant class-prejudice term of abuse, but your 'some of you need to get educated' comment is a bit misplaced in this context.PhoenixLives wrote: Um wasn't there a big fire? Didn't two firemen died? Maybe having all those flags hanging outside your house/flat is a fire risk, only takes one bright spark!yeah there was a fire caused by a curtain near a lamp, you suggesting we sould all get rid of our curtains and lamps just incase? or maybe we should just all live our lives on what ifs??? and what you all think tony is a chav because he has grandchildren at 42? A chav (pronounced /ˈtʃæv/ (CHAV)) is a stereotypical rough young person in the United Kingdom. The typical "chav"—known also as a charver in Yorkshire and North East England—is said to be an aggressive teenager, typically unemployed or of white working class background, who repeatedly engages in anti-social behaviour, such as street drinking, drug abuse and rowdiness, or other forms of juvenile delinquency. since when is someone a teenager aged 42??? i think some of you need to get educated!
I'm not convinced he's just trying to have a bit of fun though. He appears to be making a mountain out of a molehill, aided and abetted by this dog-whistle rag.
col123
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4:19pm Sat 22 May 10
col123
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4:22pm Sat 22 May 10
Redback says...
2:27pm Fri 21 May 10
2 illegal wars, the steady erosion of civil liberties, the passing of the DE Bill without due parliamentary process...
And Southampton's residents finally find a cause worth fighting for. Oversized flags.
This place really is the @[$£h0/£ of the south.