David Laws broke expenses rules says Southampton Test MP Alan Whitehead

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ONE of the stars of the new coalition Government appears to have breached expenses rules, Southampton MP Alan Whitehead has said.

Chief Secretary to the Treasury David Laws was last night forced to apologise for claiming parliamentary expenses running into tens of thousands of pounds for renting homes owned by his partner.

Labour MP Alan Whitehead, a member of the standards and privileges committee in the old parliament, said Mr Laws seemed to have breached expenses rules.

The Labour MP for Southampton Test said if serious breaches were found to have taken place Mr Laws' position will be "very difficult".

Mr Laws said he wanted to keep the relationship with the his partner James Lundie private, and not to reveal his own sexuality.

In the past three years leasing from a spouse or partner has been banned by parliamentary rules.

Mr Whitehead said: "Certainly on the facts, in the way the previous rules operated, it's quite clear that David Laws seems to have breached those rules.

"The question I think behind it is the judgement call that he made and indeed a lot of MPs made judgment calls about the previous rules - some of them disastrously bad.”

Mr Laws, one of the Lib Dem's fastest rising politicians, was given a Cabinet post as part of the Con-Lib coalition.

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10:12am Sat 29 May 10

hulla baloo says...

Prosecute. No exception, and the rest of them.
Prosecute. No exception, and the rest of them. hulla baloo
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10:14am Sat 29 May 10

bpsaint says...

Whitehead is quick to speak out publicly about someone outside his party. Not quite so speedy when it comes to people from within his own like Elliot Morley, Jim Devine and David Chaytor who are all about to face criminal charges.
Whitehead is quick to speak out publicly about someone outside his party. Not quite so speedy when it comes to people from within his own like Elliot Morley, Jim Devine and David Chaytor who are all about to face criminal charges. bpsaint
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11:05am Sat 29 May 10

Spot O'Bother says...

I can understand him wanting to keep his boyfriend private. It enabled him to fiddle his expenses! Not good.
I can understand him wanting to keep his boyfriend private. It enabled him to fiddle his expenses! Not good. Spot O'Bother
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11:06am Sat 29 May 10

News Fanatic says...

bpsaint wrote:
Whitehead is quick to speak out publicly about someone outside his party. Not quite so speedy when it comes to people from within his own like Elliot Morley, Jim Devine and David Chaytor who are all about to face criminal charges.
Since the three named are facing charges in court, the rules of sub judice apply and Alan Whitehead would be prejudicing the trials if he spoke out.
[quote][p][bold]bpsaint[/bold] wrote: Whitehead is quick to speak out publicly about someone outside his party. Not quite so speedy when it comes to people from within his own like Elliot Morley, Jim Devine and David Chaytor who are all about to face criminal charges.[/p][/quote]Since the three named are facing charges in court, the rules of sub judice apply and Alan Whitehead would be prejudicing the trials if he spoke out. News Fanatic
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11:12am Sat 29 May 10

mr angree says...

Thiis the real reason he was withdrawn from bbc question time on thursday, the cat was already out of the bag in downing st and they needed time to put spin on it so they sent Deadwood along instead, in any other walk of life this would be theft or fraud, summed up in just 3 words fingers, till, ouch!
Thiis the real reason he was withdrawn from bbc question time on thursday, the cat was already out of the bag in downing st and they needed time to put spin on it so they sent Deadwood along instead, in any other walk of life this would be theft or fraud, summed up in just 3 words fingers, till, ouch! mr angree
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11:39am Sat 29 May 10

damien thorn says...

the con-dem- nation set up will fall apart overcapital gains tax ,just a matter of time.
the con-dem- nation set up will fall apart overcapital gains tax ,just a matter of time. damien thorn
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12:01pm Sat 29 May 10

southy says...

News Fanatic wrote:
bpsaint wrote:
Whitehead is quick to speak out publicly about someone outside his party. Not quite so speedy when it comes to people from within his own like Elliot Morley, Jim Devine and David Chaytor who are all about to face criminal charges.
Since the three named are facing charges in court, the rules of sub judice apply and Alan Whitehead would be prejudicing the trials if he spoke out.
""Alan Whitehead, a member of the standards and privileges committee in the old parliament, said Mr Laws seemed to have breached expenses rules.""

note it was whitehead that brought this to the attention to parliament, so charges could be made. in the last government.
[quote][p][bold]News Fanatic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bpsaint[/bold] wrote: Whitehead is quick to speak out publicly about someone outside his party. Not quite so speedy when it comes to people from within his own like Elliot Morley, Jim Devine and David Chaytor who are all about to face criminal charges.[/p][/quote]Since the three named are facing charges in court, the rules of sub judice apply and Alan Whitehead would be prejudicing the trials if he spoke out.[/p][/quote]""Alan Whitehead, a member of the standards and privileges committee in the old parliament, said Mr Laws seemed to have breached expenses rules."" note it was whitehead that brought this to the attention to parliament, so charges could be made. in the last government. southy
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12:04pm Sat 29 May 10

TEBOURBA says...

Laws is the man who with his new buddy Osborne will formulate and oversee a vast reduction in Public Expenditure and huge increases in Taxation, all of which will hurt the poorest people in the Country.
At the same time, he fiddles 40,000 pounds from the taxpayer.
He is a sneak who hasn't even the guts to declare his gay sexuality, preferring to live in a cloak of deceit.
The decent thing for him to do is toresign immediately, he won't of course because he lacks morals, so Cameron should sack him NOW!!
Two weeks in and the wheels are coming off the Coalition Cart already>
Laws is the man who with his new buddy Osborne will formulate and oversee a vast reduction in Public Expenditure and huge increases in Taxation, all of which will hurt the poorest people in the Country. At the same time, he fiddles 40,000 pounds from the taxpayer. He is a sneak who hasn't even the guts to declare his gay sexuality, preferring to live in a cloak of deceit. The decent thing for him to do is toresign immediately, he won't of course because he lacks morals, so Cameron should sack him NOW!! Two weeks in and the wheels are coming off the Coalition Cart already> TEBOURBA
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12:38pm Sat 29 May 10

Mark Oxspent says...

"Mr Laws said he wanted to keep the relationship with the his partner James Lundie private, and not to reveal his own sexuality."

Dangerous territory!

Do not assume the British to be stupid. See previous Tory party crash and Labor Party destruction - BAD assumption sweety
"Mr Laws said he wanted to keep the relationship with the his partner James Lundie private, and not to reveal his own sexuality." Dangerous territory! Do not assume the British to be stupid. See previous Tory party crash and Labor Party destruction - BAD assumption sweety Mark Oxspent
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1:48pm Sat 29 May 10

SomersetSaint says...

David Laws is our local MP and well respected. I also think many have known (or suspected) his sexuality for some time. However, I did find it strange that his role up to the recent general election was as Lib Dem spokesman for schools, education and 'the family'. Presumably he is not a family man in the traditional sense and may be this is the reason he tried to keep his relationship private. However, if he is found to have broken the rules then he must be dealt with accordingly!
David Laws is our local MP and well respected. I also think many have known (or suspected) his sexuality for some time. However, I did find it strange that his role up to the recent general election was as Lib Dem spokesman for schools, education and 'the family'. Presumably he is not a family man in the traditional sense and may be this is the reason he tried to keep his relationship private. However, if he is found to have broken the rules then he must be dealt with accordingly! SomersetSaint
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3:41pm Sat 29 May 10

Paramjit Bahia says...

Can Lib-Dems explain how fiddling thousands of pounds from public funds can help in keeping life private?


If Cameron wants to avoid the sleaze, which was the trade mark of both last Tory and NuLabour regimes then he must immediately suspend this Lib-Dem cabinet member till the enquiry into this affair is complete. And if confirmed that he has broken the rules calamity Clegg should expel him out of the Party. Otherwise it will only do more harm to the reputation of what has become our very corrupt democracy.
Can Lib-Dems explain how fiddling thousands of pounds from public funds can help in keeping life private? If Cameron wants to avoid the sleaze, which was the trade mark of both last Tory and NuLabour regimes then he must immediately suspend this Lib-Dem cabinet member till the enquiry into this affair is complete. And if confirmed that he has broken the rules calamity Clegg should expel him out of the Party. Otherwise it will only do more harm to the reputation of what has become our very corrupt democracy. Paramjit Bahia
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3:58pm Sat 29 May 10

Condor Man says...

Funny how Whitehead crawls out of the woodwork, perhaps he should have been more vocal when his party were frittering away public funds? Laws is going to pay the money back, take a slap on the wrists and get on with the job of sorting out the public finances.
Funny how Whitehead crawls out of the woodwork, perhaps he should have been more vocal when his party were frittering away public funds? Laws is going to pay the money back, take a slap on the wrists and get on with the job of sorting out the public finances. Condor Man
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4:09pm Sat 29 May 10

bpsaint says...

News Fanatic wrote:
bpsaint wrote: Whitehead is quick to speak out publicly about someone outside his party. Not quite so speedy when it comes to people from within his own like Elliot Morley, Jim Devine and David Chaytor who are all about to face criminal charges.
Since the three named are facing charges in court, the rules of sub judice apply and Alan Whitehead would be prejudicing the trials if he spoke out.
Yes, you are right. What I meant was when the stories of MP's fiddling expenses broke last year in the Telegraph he said nothing. Now it's an individual case concerning an MP from another party he talks to the press. He should spend more time answering his correspondence, 6 months for a reply is not acceptable.
[quote][p][bold]News Fanatic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bpsaint[/bold] wrote: Whitehead is quick to speak out publicly about someone outside his party. Not quite so speedy when it comes to people from within his own like Elliot Morley, Jim Devine and David Chaytor who are all about to face criminal charges.[/p][/quote]Since the three named are facing charges in court, the rules of sub judice apply and Alan Whitehead would be prejudicing the trials if he spoke out.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are right. What I meant was when the stories of MP's fiddling expenses broke last year in the Telegraph he said nothing. Now it's an individual case concerning an MP from another party he talks to the press. He should spend more time answering his correspondence, 6 months for a reply is not acceptable. bpsaint
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4:15pm Sat 29 May 10

English defence league Hythe division says...

Just another perverted sleazy dirty example of crooked mps.Sack him now.
Just another perverted sleazy dirty example of crooked mps.Sack him now. English defence league Hythe division
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4:59pm Sat 29 May 10

freefinker says...

English defence league Hythe division wrote:
Just another perverted sleazy dirty example of crooked mps.Sack him now.
Fortunately your nasty collection of fascists and neo-Nazis will always be rejected by the UK population, so you will never be able to fully demonstrate what a “perverted, sleazy, dirty .. crooked” bunch you lot are.
Anyway, glad you have solved that little ‘Caps Lock’ problem you had. Now perhaps you should concentrate on inserting commas where they belong. At this rate very soon you will have mastered basic English – quite an accomplishment for you.
[quote][p][bold]English defence league Hythe division[/bold] wrote: Just another perverted sleazy dirty example of crooked mps.Sack him now.[/p][/quote]Fortunately your nasty collection of fascists and neo-Nazis will always be rejected by the UK population, so you will never be able to fully demonstrate what a “perverted, sleazy, dirty .. crooked” bunch you lot are. Anyway, glad you have solved that little ‘Caps Lock’ problem you had. Now perhaps you should concentrate on inserting commas where they belong. At this rate very soon you will have mastered basic English – quite an accomplishment for you. freefinker
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5:06pm Sat 29 May 10

freefinker says...

Condor Man wrote:
Funny how Whitehead crawls out of the woodwork, perhaps he should have been more vocal when his party were frittering away public funds? Laws is going to pay the money back, take a slap on the wrists and get on with the job of sorting out the public finances.
Well we are being a bit lenient, aren't we CM?
Don't remember you saying similar things about the other lot.
Suppose that's just your usual tribalism.
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: Funny how Whitehead crawls out of the woodwork, perhaps he should have been more vocal when his party were frittering away public funds? Laws is going to pay the money back, take a slap on the wrists and get on with the job of sorting out the public finances.[/p][/quote]Well we are being a bit lenient, aren't we CM? Don't remember you saying similar things about the other lot. Suppose that's just your usual tribalism. freefinker
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6:24pm Sat 29 May 10

damien thorn says...

freefinker wrote:
English defence league Hythe division wrote:
Just another perverted sleazy dirty example of crooked mps.Sack him now.
Fortunately your nasty collection of fascists and neo-Nazis will always be rejected by the UK population, so you will never be able to fully demonstrate what a “perverted, sleazy, dirty .. crooked” bunch you lot are.
Anyway, glad you have solved that little ‘Caps Lock’ problem you had. Now perhaps you should concentrate on inserting commas where they belong. At this rate very soon you will have mastered basic English – quite an accomplishment for you.
english defence league , honey trap for morons , look up the rothchilds etc ,the real menace to all whites.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]English defence league Hythe division[/bold] wrote: Just another perverted sleazy dirty example of crooked mps.Sack him now.[/p][/quote]Fortunately your nasty collection of fascists and neo-Nazis will always be rejected by the UK population, so you will never be able to fully demonstrate what a “perverted, sleazy, dirty .. crooked” bunch you lot are. Anyway, glad you have solved that little ‘Caps Lock’ problem you had. Now perhaps you should concentrate on inserting commas where they belong. At this rate very soon you will have mastered basic English – quite an accomplishment for you.[/p][/quote]english defence league , honey trap for morons , look up the rothchilds etc ,the real menace to all whites. damien thorn
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7:20pm Sat 29 May 10

English defence league Hythe division says...

damien thorn wrote:
freefinker wrote:
English defence league Hythe division wrote: Just another perverted sleazy dirty example of crooked mps.Sack him now.
Fortunately your nasty collection of fascists and neo-Nazis will always be rejected by the UK population, so you will never be able to fully demonstrate what a “perverted, sleazy, dirty .. crooked” bunch you lot are. Anyway, glad you have solved that little ‘Caps Lock’ problem you had. Now perhaps you should concentrate on inserting commas where they belong. At this rate very soon you will have mastered basic English – quite an accomplishment for you.
english defence league , honey trap for morons , look up the rothchilds etc ,the real menace to all whites.
So the anti english brigade are off on one again.The edl is a non racist movement and was started because of the way parliament has become anti english.The real racists and traitors are the power brokers trying to create a new world order by eroding the english by stealth.
[quote][p][bold]damien thorn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]English defence league Hythe division[/bold] wrote: Just another perverted sleazy dirty example of crooked mps.Sack him now.[/p][/quote]Fortunately your nasty collection of fascists and neo-Nazis will always be rejected by the UK population, so you will never be able to fully demonstrate what a “perverted, sleazy, dirty .. crooked” bunch you lot are. Anyway, glad you have solved that little ‘Caps Lock’ problem you had. Now perhaps you should concentrate on inserting commas where they belong. At this rate very soon you will have mastered basic English – quite an accomplishment for you.[/p][/quote]english defence league , honey trap for morons , look up the rothchilds etc ,the real menace to all whites.[/p][/quote]So the anti english brigade are off on one again.The edl is a non racist movement and was started because of the way parliament has become anti english.The real racists and traitors are the power brokers trying to create a new world order by eroding the english by stealth. English defence league Hythe division
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8:01pm Sat 29 May 10

geoff51 says...

Alan Whitehead is typical of the worst type of MP, totally invisible and silent until they can make capital on someone elses back.
Let the person in government who has nothing to hide in the sleaze and disaster of the previous Labour administration come forward, no I didn't think so.
If you can not say anything constuctive Mr Whitehead about how to recover from the mess your party has made of this country, go back to being silent, its what you are good at.
Alan Whitehead is typical of the worst type of MP, totally invisible and silent until they can make capital on someone elses back. Let the person in government who has nothing to hide in the sleaze and disaster of the previous Labour administration come forward, no I didn't think so. If you can not say anything constuctive Mr Whitehead about how to recover from the mess your party has made of this country, go back to being silent, its what you are good at. geoff51
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8:05pm Sat 29 May 10

Paramjit Bahia says...

freefinker wrote:
Condor Man wrote: Funny how Whitehead crawls out of the woodwork, perhaps he should have been more vocal when his party were frittering away public funds? Laws is going to pay the money back, take a slap on the wrists and get on with the job of sorting out the public finances.
Well we are being a bit lenient, aren't we CM? Don't remember you saying similar things about the other lot. Suppose that's just your usual tribalism.
Agree with freefinker.
Amazing how all of a sudden Tories have become so close to their LibDem partners that they are willing to do even political kamikaze for defending the lowest form of political life, commonly known as Lib-Dems.
Condor Man also seems to exercise very selective memory which overlooks what his dodgy darlings of CONservative Party did. For example duck house, moats and even massive amount of stinking horse manure etc etc claimed for by CONservative MPs.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: Funny how Whitehead crawls out of the woodwork, perhaps he should have been more vocal when his party were frittering away public funds? Laws is going to pay the money back, take a slap on the wrists and get on with the job of sorting out the public finances.[/p][/quote]Well we are being a bit lenient, aren't we CM? Don't remember you saying similar things about the other lot. Suppose that's just your usual tribalism.[/p][/quote]Agree with freefinker. Amazing how all of a sudden Tories have become so close to their LibDem partners that they are willing to do even political kamikaze for defending the lowest form of political life, commonly known as Lib-Dems. Condor Man also seems to exercise very selective memory which overlooks what his dodgy darlings of CONservative Party did. For example duck house, moats and even massive amount of stinking horse manure etc etc claimed for by CONservative MPs. Paramjit Bahia
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8:06pm Sat 29 May 10

freefinker says...

English defence league Hythe division wrote:
damien thorn wrote:
freefinker wrote:
English defence league Hythe division wrote: Just another perverted sleazy dirty example of crooked mps.Sack him now.
Fortunately your nasty collection of fascists and neo-Nazis will always be rejected by the UK population, so you will never be able to fully demonstrate what a “perverted, sleazy, dirty .. crooked” bunch you lot are. Anyway, glad you have solved that little ‘Caps Lock’ problem you had. Now perhaps you should concentrate on inserting commas where they belong. At this rate very soon you will have mastered basic English – quite an accomplishment for you.
english defence league , honey trap for morons , look up the rothchilds etc ,the real menace to all whites.
So the anti english brigade are off on one again.The edl is a non racist movement and was started because of the way parliament has become anti english.The real racists and traitors are the power brokers trying to create a new world order by eroding the english by stealth.
That should be a capital E in English.
And EDL not edl.
.
Once you have taxed your brain just a little harder to get your English language up to that of a 7 year old, then, and only then, you can concentrate on the difficult task - thinking.
Now I know this will be very very difficult for you, what with your immaturity and everything else, but I'm sure you could manage it if you try hard enough.
Then, once you have actually started to think for yourself, you will be very embarrassed at the continual never ending stream of rubbish you have posted on this site for the last several months.
But hey, never mind - it's all part of growing up.
[quote][p][bold]English defence league Hythe division[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damien thorn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]English defence league Hythe division[/bold] wrote: Just another perverted sleazy dirty example of crooked mps.Sack him now.[/p][/quote]Fortunately your nasty collection of fascists and neo-Nazis will always be rejected by the UK population, so you will never be able to fully demonstrate what a “perverted, sleazy, dirty .. crooked” bunch you lot are. Anyway, glad you have solved that little ‘Caps Lock’ problem you had. Now perhaps you should concentrate on inserting commas where they belong. At this rate very soon you will have mastered basic English – quite an accomplishment for you.[/p][/quote]english defence league , honey trap for morons , look up the rothchilds etc ,the real menace to all whites.[/p][/quote]So the anti english brigade are off on one again.The edl is a non racist movement and was started because of the way parliament has become anti english.The real racists and traitors are the power brokers trying to create a new world order by eroding the english by stealth.[/p][/quote]That should be a capital E in English. And EDL not edl. . Once you have taxed your brain just a little harder to get your English language up to that of a 7 year old, then, and only then, you can concentrate on the difficult task - thinking. Now I know this will be very very difficult for you, what with your immaturity and everything else, but I'm sure you could manage it if you try hard enough. Then, once you have actually started to think for yourself, you will be very embarrassed at the continual never ending stream of rubbish you have posted on this site for the last several months. But hey, never mind - it's all part of growing up. freefinker
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8:14pm Sat 29 May 10

Paramjit Bahia says...

geoff51 wrote:
Alan Whitehead is typical of the worst type of MP, totally invisible and silent until they can make capital on someone elses back. Let the person in government who has nothing to hide in the sleaze and disaster of the previous Labour administration come forward, no I didn't think so. If you can not say anything constuctive Mr Whitehead about how to recover from the mess your party has made of this country, go back to being silent, its what you are good at.
In democratic system whether MPs are good or bad is judged by the electorate. You should remember only couple of weeks ago people in Southampton Test did exactly that, when they refused to support your Tory Moulton and re-elected Dr.Alan Whitehead.
[quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: Alan Whitehead is typical of the worst type of MP, totally invisible and silent until they can make capital on someone elses back. Let the person in government who has nothing to hide in the sleaze and disaster of the previous Labour administration come forward, no I didn't think so. If you can not say anything constuctive Mr Whitehead about how to recover from the mess your party has made of this country, go back to being silent, its what you are good at.[/p][/quote]In democratic system whether MPs are good or bad is judged by the electorate. You should remember only couple of weeks ago people in Southampton Test did exactly that, when they refused to support your Tory Moulton and re-elected Dr.Alan Whitehead. Paramjit Bahia
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8:42pm Sat 29 May 10

geoff51 says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
geoff51 wrote: Alan Whitehead is typical of the worst type of MP, totally invisible and silent until they can make capital on someone elses back. Let the person in government who has nothing to hide in the sleaze and disaster of the previous Labour administration come forward, no I didn't think so. If you can not say anything constuctive Mr Whitehead about how to recover from the mess your party has made of this country, go back to being silent, its what you are good at.
In democratic system whether MPs are good or bad is judged by the electorate. You should remember only couple of weeks ago people in Southampton Test did exactly that, when they refused to support your Tory Moulton and re-elected Dr.Alan Whitehead.
Just goes to show that most people are too lazy or stupid to actually ask themselves what has my MP actually done for the City, and just vote the same as they always have and the same as their parents did.
They then get the faceless, voiceless MP they deserve
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: Alan Whitehead is typical of the worst type of MP, totally invisible and silent until they can make capital on someone elses back. Let the person in government who has nothing to hide in the sleaze and disaster of the previous Labour administration come forward, no I didn't think so. If you can not say anything constuctive Mr Whitehead about how to recover from the mess your party has made of this country, go back to being silent, its what you are good at.[/p][/quote]In democratic system whether MPs are good or bad is judged by the electorate. You should remember only couple of weeks ago people in Southampton Test did exactly that, when they refused to support your Tory Moulton and re-elected Dr.Alan Whitehead.[/p][/quote]Just goes to show that most people are too lazy or stupid to actually ask themselves what has my MP actually done for the City, and just vote the same as they always have and the same as their parents did. They then get the faceless, voiceless MP they deserve geoff51
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8:43pm Sat 29 May 10

freefinker says...

Condor Man wrote:
Funny how Whitehead crawls out of the woodwork, perhaps he should have been more vocal when his party were frittering away public funds? Laws is going to pay the money back, take a slap on the wrists and get on with the job of sorting out the public finances.
I see Laws took less than 4 hours to prove you wrong CM.
.
Any more predictions?
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: Funny how Whitehead crawls out of the woodwork, perhaps he should have been more vocal when his party were frittering away public funds? Laws is going to pay the money back, take a slap on the wrists and get on with the job of sorting out the public finances.[/p][/quote]I see Laws took less than 4 hours to prove you wrong CM. . Any more predictions? freefinker
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11:29pm Sat 29 May 10

Condor Man says...

freefinker wrote:
Condor Man wrote: Funny how Whitehead crawls out of the woodwork, perhaps he should have been more vocal when his party were frittering away public funds? Laws is going to pay the money back, take a slap on the wrists and get on with the job of sorting out the public finances.
I see Laws took less than 4 hours to prove you wrong CM. . Any more predictions?
I'm not a clairvoyant or a bookmaker. I just based my opinion on the track record of brass necked Labour MPs. During the Thatcher years it was common-place to fall on your sword, good to see that coming back. Personally I'd rather have seen Ken Clarke in the job in the first place, even more a Tory majority.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: Funny how Whitehead crawls out of the woodwork, perhaps he should have been more vocal when his party were frittering away public funds? Laws is going to pay the money back, take a slap on the wrists and get on with the job of sorting out the public finances.[/p][/quote]I see Laws took less than 4 hours to prove you wrong CM. . Any more predictions?[/p][/quote]I'm not a clairvoyant or a bookmaker. I just based my opinion on the track record of brass necked Labour MPs. During the Thatcher years it was common-place to fall on your sword, good to see that coming back. Personally I'd rather have seen Ken Clarke in the job in the first place, even more a Tory majority. Condor Man
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12:20am Sun 30 May 10

southy says...

geoff51 wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
geoff51 wrote: Alan Whitehead is typical of the worst type of MP, totally invisible and silent until they can make capital on someone elses back. Let the person in government who has nothing to hide in the sleaze and disaster of the previous Labour administration come forward, no I didn't think so. If you can not say anything constuctive Mr Whitehead about how to recover from the mess your party has made of this country, go back to being silent, its what you are good at.
In democratic system whether MPs are good or bad is judged by the electorate. You should remember only couple of weeks ago people in Southampton Test did exactly that, when they refused to support your Tory Moulton and re-elected Dr.Alan Whitehead.
Just goes to show that most people are too lazy or stupid to actually ask themselves what has my MP actually done for the City, and just vote the same as they always have and the same as their parents did.
They then get the faceless, voiceless MP they deserve
if you remember just before the election i told condor man that moulton would not win the mp seat. the swing here was more towards the liberals.
this area has has a very high number of people that dont vote because there is no one to represent them. and even with this high number of non voters moulton still could not win.
on what has our mp done for us whitehead when he was a councilor done a 10 times more than moulton will ever do, moulton is to interested in his own pockets then he is of the people of his own council ward seat, and it has been notice in the rest of the test seat, moulton will never become an mp in the test.
[quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: Alan Whitehead is typical of the worst type of MP, totally invisible and silent until they can make capital on someone elses back. Let the person in government who has nothing to hide in the sleaze and disaster of the previous Labour administration come forward, no I didn't think so. If you can not say anything constuctive Mr Whitehead about how to recover from the mess your party has made of this country, go back to being silent, its what you are good at.[/p][/quote]In democratic system whether MPs are good or bad is judged by the electorate. You should remember only couple of weeks ago people in Southampton Test did exactly that, when they refused to support your Tory Moulton and re-elected Dr.Alan Whitehead.[/p][/quote]Just goes to show that most people are too lazy or stupid to actually ask themselves what has my MP actually done for the City, and just vote the same as they always have and the same as their parents did. They then get the faceless, voiceless MP they deserve[/p][/quote]if you remember just before the election i told condor man that moulton would not win the mp seat. the swing here was more towards the liberals. this area has has a very high number of people that dont vote because there is no one to represent them. and even with this high number of non voters moulton still could not win. on what has our mp done for us whitehead when he was a councilor done a 10 times more than moulton will ever do, moulton is to interested in his own pockets then he is of the people of his own council ward seat, and it has been notice in the rest of the test seat, moulton will never become an mp in the test. southy
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4:11am Sun 30 May 10

Paramjit Bahia says...

southy wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
geoff51 wrote: Alan Whitehead is typical of the worst type of MP, totally invisible and silent until they can make capital on someone elses back. Let the person in government who has nothing to hide in the sleaze and disaster of the previous Labour administration come forward, no I didn't think so. If you can not say anything constuctive Mr Whitehead about how to recover from the mess your party has made of this country, go back to being silent, its what you are good at.
In democratic system whether MPs are good or bad is judged by the electorate. You should remember only couple of weeks ago people in Southampton Test did exactly that, when they refused to support your Tory Moulton and re-elected Dr.Alan Whitehead.
Just goes to show that most people are too lazy or stupid to actually ask themselves what has my MP actually done for the City, and just vote the same as they always have and the same as their parents did. They then get the faceless, voiceless MP they deserve
if you remember just before the election i told condor man that moulton would not win the mp seat. the swing here was more towards the liberals. this area has has a very high number of people that dont vote because there is no one to represent them. and even with this high number of non voters moulton still could not win. on what has our mp done for us whitehead when he was a councilor done a 10 times more than moulton will ever do, moulton is to interested in his own pockets then he is of the people of his own council ward seat, and it has been notice in the rest of the test seat, moulton will never become an mp in the test.
Tory Geoff 51 is insulting people by describing most voters as stupid. It is typical Tory arrogance. It is not good telling him to be ashamed of himself for bad manners because the Thatcher’s followers only know bad manners and foul mouthing.
In my opinion in democracy the voters are the masters and deserve all the respect.
Southy is right, and I also said that Tories won’t win in Soton Test.
Most people do not like dirty tricks, which were used by the Tories around here. Especially constantly attacking Whitehead for using his communication allowance to stay in touch with his constituents, just like the Tory MPs also very rightly do that as well. But Moulton was conveniently quite about that in his leaflets. So no surprise it backfired on Tories in a big way.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: Alan Whitehead is typical of the worst type of MP, totally invisible and silent until they can make capital on someone elses back. Let the person in government who has nothing to hide in the sleaze and disaster of the previous Labour administration come forward, no I didn't think so. If you can not say anything constuctive Mr Whitehead about how to recover from the mess your party has made of this country, go back to being silent, its what you are good at.[/p][/quote]In democratic system whether MPs are good or bad is judged by the electorate. You should remember only couple of weeks ago people in Southampton Test did exactly that, when they refused to support your Tory Moulton and re-elected Dr.Alan Whitehead.[/p][/quote]Just goes to show that most people are too lazy or stupid to actually ask themselves what has my MP actually done for the City, and just vote the same as they always have and the same as their parents did. They then get the faceless, voiceless MP they deserve[/p][/quote]if you remember just before the election i told condor man that moulton would not win the mp seat. the swing here was more towards the liberals. this area has has a very high number of people that dont vote because there is no one to represent them. and even with this high number of non voters moulton still could not win. on what has our mp done for us whitehead when he was a councilor done a 10 times more than moulton will ever do, moulton is to interested in his own pockets then he is of the people of his own council ward seat, and it has been notice in the rest of the test seat, moulton will never become an mp in the test.[/p][/quote]Tory Geoff 51 is insulting people by describing most voters as stupid. It is typical Tory arrogance. It is not good telling him to be ashamed of himself for bad manners because the Thatcher’s followers only know bad manners and foul mouthing. In my opinion in democracy the voters are the masters and deserve all the respect. Southy is right, and I also said that Tories won’t win in Soton Test. Most people do not like dirty tricks, which were used by the Tories around here. Especially constantly attacking Whitehead for using his communication allowance to stay in touch with his constituents, just like the Tory MPs also very rightly do that as well. But Moulton was conveniently quite about that in his leaflets. So no surprise it backfired on Tories in a big way. Paramjit Bahia
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4:16am Sun 30 May 10

Paramjit Bahia says...

Resignation of cabinet member David Laws within days after taking office is only first causality of this CON-Dem government. Obviously their starting point appears to be where sleaze ridden last Tory government finished in 1997.
This not only proves that Cameron is bad at picking right kind of people, but also by not sacking Laws immediately the allegations were made he has managed to taint his own image that was carefully created with extensive investment in public relations probably paid for with Ashcroft’s donations.
I don’t think this will be only first such scandal to hit the Con-Dem govt; many more are likely to follow and the government likely to collapse sooner than many originally thought it would.
Resignation of cabinet member David Laws within days after taking office is only first causality of this CON-Dem government. Obviously their starting point appears to be where sleaze ridden last Tory government finished in 1997. This not only proves that Cameron is bad at picking right kind of people, but also by not sacking Laws immediately the allegations were made he has managed to taint his own image that was carefully created with extensive investment in public relations probably paid for with Ashcroft’s donations. I don’t think this will be only first such scandal to hit the Con-Dem govt; many more are likely to follow and the government likely to collapse sooner than many originally thought it would. Paramjit Bahia
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5:26am Sun 30 May 10

Spot O'Bother says...

Give the MPs a HoW credit card. Every purchase can then go on line & be scrutinized by the press/agitators. No one needed for scrutinizing claims. Save some wages right there. This should also apply to the Lords.
Give the MPs a HoW credit card. Every purchase can then go on line & be scrutinized by the press/agitators. No one needed for scrutinizing claims. Save some wages right there. This should also apply to the Lords. Spot O'Bother
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4:11pm Sun 30 May 10

geoff51 says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
southy wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
geoff51 wrote: Alan Whitehead is typical of the worst type of MP, totally invisible and silent until they can make capital on someone elses back. Let the person in government who has nothing to hide in the sleaze and disaster of the previous Labour administration come forward, no I didn't think so. If you can not say anything constuctive Mr Whitehead about how to recover from the mess your party has made of this country, go back to being silent, its what you are good at.
In democratic system whether MPs are good or bad is judged by the electorate. You should remember only couple of weeks ago people in Southampton Test did exactly that, when they refused to support your Tory Moulton and re-elected Dr.Alan Whitehead.
Just goes to show that most people are too lazy or stupid to actually ask themselves what has my MP actually done for the City, and just vote the same as they always have and the same as their parents did. They then get the faceless, voiceless MP they deserve
if you remember just before the election i told condor man that moulton would not win the mp seat. the swing here was more towards the liberals. this area has has a very high number of people that dont vote because there is no one to represent them. and even with this high number of non voters moulton still could not win. on what has our mp done for us whitehead when he was a councilor done a 10 times more than moulton will ever do, moulton is to interested in his own pockets then he is of the people of his own council ward seat, and it has been notice in the rest of the test seat, moulton will never become an mp in the test.
Tory Geoff 51 is insulting people by describing most voters as stupid. It is typical Tory arrogance. It is not good telling him to be ashamed of himself for bad manners because the Thatcher’s followers only know bad manners and foul mouthing. In my opinion in democracy the voters are the masters and deserve all the respect. Southy is right, and I also said that Tories won’t win in Soton Test. Most people do not like dirty tricks, which were used by the Tories around here. Especially constantly attacking Whitehead for using his communication allowance to stay in touch with his constituents, just like the Tory MPs also very rightly do that as well. But Moulton was conveniently quite about that in his leaflets. So no surprise it backfired on Tories in a big way.
Actually I am not insulting people as you suggest, I am saying that most people vote the way their parents did without looking at the big picture.
Southampton gets the MPs they deserve.
Two of the last of a dying breed,that is Labour Mps in the south of England. They may have won their seats but their party by its totally disasterous 13 years in power have consigned themselves to at least 20 years in the political wilderness, so it is a hollow victory and proves my point that any voter wanting them to do more damage to this once great country has not looked at their record and voted them out
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: Alan Whitehead is typical of the worst type of MP, totally invisible and silent until they can make capital on someone elses back. Let the person in government who has nothing to hide in the sleaze and disaster of the previous Labour administration come forward, no I didn't think so. If you can not say anything constuctive Mr Whitehead about how to recover from the mess your party has made of this country, go back to being silent, its what you are good at.[/p][/quote]In democratic system whether MPs are good or bad is judged by the electorate. You should remember only couple of weeks ago people in Southampton Test did exactly that, when they refused to support your Tory Moulton and re-elected Dr.Alan Whitehead.[/p][/quote]Just goes to show that most people are too lazy or stupid to actually ask themselves what has my MP actually done for the City, and just vote the same as they always have and the same as their parents did. They then get the faceless, voiceless MP they deserve[/p][/quote]if you remember just before the election i told condor man that moulton would not win the mp seat. the swing here was more towards the liberals. this area has has a very high number of people that dont vote because there is no one to represent them. and even with this high number of non voters moulton still could not win. on what has our mp done for us whitehead when he was a councilor done a 10 times more than moulton will ever do, moulton is to interested in his own pockets then he is of the people of his own council ward seat, and it has been notice in the rest of the test seat, moulton will never become an mp in the test.[/p][/quote]Tory Geoff 51 is insulting people by describing most voters as stupid. It is typical Tory arrogance. It is not good telling him to be ashamed of himself for bad manners because the Thatcher’s followers only know bad manners and foul mouthing. In my opinion in democracy the voters are the masters and deserve all the respect. Southy is right, and I also said that Tories won’t win in Soton Test. Most people do not like dirty tricks, which were used by the Tories around here. Especially constantly attacking Whitehead for using his communication allowance to stay in touch with his constituents, just like the Tory MPs also very rightly do that as well. But Moulton was conveniently quite about that in his leaflets. So no surprise it backfired on Tories in a big way.[/p][/quote]Actually I am not insulting people as you suggest, I am saying that most people vote the way their parents did without looking at the big picture. Southampton gets the MPs they deserve. Two of the last of a dying breed,that is Labour Mps in the south of England. They may have won their seats but their party by its totally disasterous 13 years in power have consigned themselves to at least 20 years in the political wilderness, so it is a hollow victory and proves my point that any voter wanting them to do more damage to this once great country has not looked at their record and voted them out geoff51
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10:01pm Sun 30 May 10

southy says...

geoff51 wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
southy wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
geoff51 wrote: Alan Whitehead is typical of the worst type of MP, totally invisible and silent until they can make capital on someone elses back. Let the person in government who has nothing to hide in the sleaze and disaster of the previous Labour administration come forward, no I didn't think so. If you can not say anything constuctive Mr Whitehead about how to recover from the mess your party has made of this country, go back to being silent, its what you are good at.
In democratic system whether MPs are good or bad is judged by the electorate. You should remember only couple of weeks ago people in Southampton Test did exactly that, when they refused to support your Tory Moulton and re-elected Dr.Alan Whitehead.
Just goes to show that most people are too lazy or stupid to actually ask themselves what has my MP actually done for the City, and just vote the same as they always have and the same as their parents did. They then get the faceless, voiceless MP they deserve
if you remember just before the election i told condor man that moulton would not win the mp seat. the swing here was more towards the liberals. this area has has a very high number of people that dont vote because there is no one to represent them. and even with this high number of non voters moulton still could not win. on what has our mp done for us whitehead when he was a councilor done a 10 times more than moulton will ever do, moulton is to interested in his own pockets then he is of the people of his own council ward seat, and it has been notice in the rest of the test seat, moulton will never become an mp in the test.
Tory Geoff 51 is insulting people by describing most voters as stupid. It is typical Tory arrogance. It is not good telling him to be ashamed of himself for bad manners because the Thatcher’s followers only know bad manners and foul mouthing. In my opinion in democracy the voters are the masters and deserve all the respect. Southy is right, and I also said that Tories won’t win in Soton Test. Most people do not like dirty tricks, which were used by the Tories around here. Especially constantly attacking Whitehead for using his communication allowance to stay in touch with his constituents, just like the Tory MPs also very rightly do that as well. But Moulton was conveniently quite about that in his leaflets. So no surprise it backfired on Tories in a big way.
Actually I am not insulting people as you suggest, I am saying that most people vote the way their parents did without looking at the big picture.
Southampton gets the MPs they deserve.
Two of the last of a dying breed,that is Labour Mps in the south of England. They may have won their seats but their party by its totally disasterous 13 years in power have consigned themselves to at least 20 years in the political wilderness, so it is a hollow victory and proves my point that any voter wanting them to do more damage to this once great country has not looked at their record and voted them out
at the next general election labour will be back with a over all majority, this more than likely be the last time you see the torys having any sort of power for the next 8 to 16 years.
and if you look hard in the facts its the tory voters that brainwash there kids more than any labour voter. if labour voters done the same the torys would never off seen power in government again. because they would out number the tory vote at less 10 times more.
and if you look even harder into politics you will see there has been not real difference between the 3 main partys in policy for the last 30 years.
and is the main reason why more and more voters are not voting because there is no difference. this government will be gone before the end off 2012 and the labour party will be back in power.
[quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: Alan Whitehead is typical of the worst type of MP, totally invisible and silent until they can make capital on someone elses back. Let the person in government who has nothing to hide in the sleaze and disaster of the previous Labour administration come forward, no I didn't think so. If you can not say anything constuctive Mr Whitehead about how to recover from the mess your party has made of this country, go back to being silent, its what you are good at.[/p][/quote]In democratic system whether MPs are good or bad is judged by the electorate. You should remember only couple of weeks ago people in Southampton Test did exactly that, when they refused to support your Tory Moulton and re-elected Dr.Alan Whitehead.[/p][/quote]Just goes to show that most people are too lazy or stupid to actually ask themselves what has my MP actually done for the City, and just vote the same as they always have and the same as their parents did. They then get the faceless, voiceless MP they deserve[/p][/quote]if you remember just before the election i told condor man that moulton would not win the mp seat. the swing here was more towards the liberals. this area has has a very high number of people that dont vote because there is no one to represent them. and even with this high number of non voters moulton still could not win. on what has our mp done for us whitehead when he was a councilor done a 10 times more than moulton will ever do, moulton is to interested in his own pockets then he is of the people of his own council ward seat, and it has been notice in the rest of the test seat, moulton will never become an mp in the test.[/p][/quote]Tory Geoff 51 is insulting people by describing most voters as stupid. It is typical Tory arrogance. It is not good telling him to be ashamed of himself for bad manners because the Thatcher’s followers only know bad manners and foul mouthing. In my opinion in democracy the voters are the masters and deserve all the respect. Southy is right, and I also said that Tories won’t win in Soton Test. Most people do not like dirty tricks, which were used by the Tories around here. Especially constantly attacking Whitehead for using his communication allowance to stay in touch with his constituents, just like the Tory MPs also very rightly do that as well. But Moulton was conveniently quite about that in his leaflets. So no surprise it backfired on Tories in a big way.[/p][/quote]Actually I am not insulting people as you suggest, I am saying that most people vote the way their parents did without looking at the big picture. Southampton gets the MPs they deserve. Two of the last of a dying breed,that is Labour Mps in the south of England. They may have won their seats but their party by its totally disasterous 13 years in power have consigned themselves to at least 20 years in the political wilderness, so it is a hollow victory and proves my point that any voter wanting them to do more damage to this once great country has not looked at their record and voted them out[/p][/quote]at the next general election labour will be back with a over all majority, this more than likely be the last time you see the torys having any sort of power for the next 8 to 16 years. and if you look hard in the facts its the tory voters that brainwash there kids more than any labour voter. if labour voters done the same the torys would never off seen power in government again. because they would out number the tory vote at less 10 times more. and if you look even harder into politics you will see there has been not real difference between the 3 main partys in policy for the last 30 years. and is the main reason why more and more voters are not voting because there is no difference. this government will be gone before the end off 2012 and the labour party will be back in power. southy
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10:07pm Sun 30 May 10

Condor Man says...

southy wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
southy wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
geoff51 wrote: Alan Whitehead is typical of the worst type of MP, totally invisible and silent until they can make capital on someone elses back. Let the person in government who has nothing to hide in the sleaze and disaster of the previous Labour administration come forward, no I didn't think so. If you can not say anything constuctive Mr Whitehead about how to recover from the mess your party has made of this country, go back to being silent, its what you are good at.
In democratic system whether MPs are good or bad is judged by the electorate. You should remember only couple of weeks ago people in Southampton Test did exactly that, when they refused to support your Tory Moulton and re-elected Dr.Alan Whitehead.
Just goes to show that most people are too lazy or stupid to actually ask themselves what has my MP actually done for the City, and just vote the same as they always have and the same as their parents did. They then get the faceless, voiceless MP they deserve
if you remember just before the election i told condor man that moulton would not win the mp seat. the swing here was more towards the liberals. this area has has a very high number of people that dont vote because there is no one to represent them. and even with this high number of non voters moulton still could not win. on what has our mp done for us whitehead when he was a councilor done a 10 times more than moulton will ever do, moulton is to interested in his own pockets then he is of the people of his own council ward seat, and it has been notice in the rest of the test seat, moulton will never become an mp in the test.
Tory Geoff 51 is insulting people by describing most voters as stupid. It is typical Tory arrogance. It is not good telling him to be ashamed of himself for bad manners because the Thatcher’s followers only know bad manners and foul mouthing. In my opinion in democracy the voters are the masters and deserve all the respect. Southy is right, and I also said that Tories won’t win in Soton Test. Most people do not like dirty tricks, which were used by the Tories around here. Especially constantly attacking Whitehead for using his communication allowance to stay in touch with his constituents, just like the Tory MPs also very rightly do that as well. But Moulton was conveniently quite about that in his leaflets. So no surprise it backfired on Tories in a big way.
Actually I am not insulting people as you suggest, I am saying that most people vote the way their parents did without looking at the big picture. Southampton gets the MPs they deserve. Two of the last of a dying breed,that is Labour Mps in the south of England. They may have won their seats but their party by its totally disasterous 13 years in power have consigned themselves to at least 20 years in the political wilderness, so it is a hollow victory and proves my point that any voter wanting them to do more damage to this once great country has not looked at their record and voted them out
at the next general election labour will be back with a over all majority, this more than likely be the last time you see the torys having any sort of power for the next 8 to 16 years. and if you look hard in the facts its the tory voters that brainwash there kids more than any labour voter. if labour voters done the same the torys would never off seen power in government again. because they would out number the tory vote at less 10 times more. and if you look even harder into politics you will see there has been not real difference between the 3 main partys in policy for the last 30 years. and is the main reason why more and more voters are not voting because there is no difference. this government will be gone before the end off 2012 and the labour party will be back in power.
do you REALLY think so? I think after the mess Liebore have made of the economy they will be in hibernation for at least a decade. Most people want to see some cash left in their pockets after going to work, not having it all taxed away to pay for those who can't be bothered.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: Alan Whitehead is typical of the worst type of MP, totally invisible and silent until they can make capital on someone elses back. Let the person in government who has nothing to hide in the sleaze and disaster of the previous Labour administration come forward, no I didn't think so. If you can not say anything constuctive Mr Whitehead about how to recover from the mess your party has made of this country, go back to being silent, its what you are good at.[/p][/quote]In democratic system whether MPs are good or bad is judged by the electorate. You should remember only couple of weeks ago people in Southampton Test did exactly that, when they refused to support your Tory Moulton and re-elected Dr.Alan Whitehead.[/p][/quote]Just goes to show that most people are too lazy or stupid to actually ask themselves what has my MP actually done for the City, and just vote the same as they always have and the same as their parents did. They then get the faceless, voiceless MP they deserve[/p][/quote]if you remember just before the election i told condor man that moulton would not win the mp seat. the swing here was more towards the liberals. this area has has a very high number of people that dont vote because there is no one to represent them. and even with this high number of non voters moulton still could not win. on what has our mp done for us whitehead when he was a councilor done a 10 times more than moulton will ever do, moulton is to interested in his own pockets then he is of the people of his own council ward seat, and it has been notice in the rest of the test seat, moulton will never become an mp in the test.[/p][/quote]Tory Geoff 51 is insulting people by describing most voters as stupid. It is typical Tory arrogance. It is not good telling him to be ashamed of himself for bad manners because the Thatcher’s followers only know bad manners and foul mouthing. In my opinion in democracy the voters are the masters and deserve all the respect. Southy is right, and I also said that Tories won’t win in Soton Test. Most people do not like dirty tricks, which were used by the Tories around here. Especially constantly attacking Whitehead for using his communication allowance to stay in touch with his constituents, just like the Tory MPs also very rightly do that as well. But Moulton was conveniently quite about that in his leaflets. So no surprise it backfired on Tories in a big way.[/p][/quote]Actually I am not insulting people as you suggest, I am saying that most people vote the way their parents did without looking at the big picture. Southampton gets the MPs they deserve. Two of the last of a dying breed,that is Labour Mps in the south of England. They may have won their seats but their party by its totally disasterous 13 years in power have consigned themselves to at least 20 years in the political wilderness, so it is a hollow victory and proves my point that any voter wanting them to do more damage to this once great country has not looked at their record and voted them out[/p][/quote]at the next general election labour will be back with a over all majority, this more than likely be the last time you see the torys having any sort of power for the next 8 to 16 years. and if you look hard in the facts its the tory voters that brainwash there kids more than any labour voter. if labour voters done the same the torys would never off seen power in government again. because they would out number the tory vote at less 10 times more. and if you look even harder into politics you will see there has been not real difference between the 3 main partys in policy for the last 30 years. and is the main reason why more and more voters are not voting because there is no difference. this government will be gone before the end off 2012 and the labour party will be back in power.[/p][/quote]do you REALLY think so? I think after the mess Liebore have made of the economy they will be in hibernation for at least a decade. Most people want to see some cash left in their pockets after going to work, not having it all taxed away to pay for those who can't be bothered. Condor Man
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10:44pm Sun 30 May 10

southy says...

Condor Man wrote:
southy wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
southy wrote:
geoff51 wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
geoff51 wrote: Alan Whitehead is typical of the worst type of MP, totally invisible and silent until they can make capital on someone elses back. Let the person in government who has nothing to hide in the sleaze and disaster of the previous Labour administration come forward, no I didn't think so. If you can not say anything constuctive Mr Whitehead about how to recover from the mess your party has made of this country, go back to being silent, its what you are good at.
In democratic system whether MPs are good or bad is judged by the electorate. You should remember only couple of weeks ago people in Southampton Test did exactly that, when they refused to support your Tory Moulton and re-elected Dr.Alan Whitehead.
Just goes to show that most people are too lazy or stupid to actually ask themselves what has my MP actually done for the City, and just vote the same as they always have and the same as their parents did. They then get the faceless, voiceless MP they deserve
if you remember just before the election i told condor man that moulton would not win the mp seat. the swing here was more towards the liberals. this area has has a very high number of people that dont vote because there is no one to represent them. and even with this high number of non voters moulton still could not win. on what has our mp done for us whitehead when he was a councilor done a 10 times more than moulton will ever do, moulton is to interested in his own pockets then he is of the people of his own council ward seat, and it has been notice in the rest of the test seat, moulton will never become an mp in the test.
Tory Geoff 51 is insulting people by describing most voters as stupid. It is typical Tory arrogance. It is not good telling him to be ashamed of himself for bad manners because the Thatcher’s followers only know bad manners and foul mouthing. In my opinion in democracy the voters are the masters and deserve all the respect. Southy is right, and I also said that Tories won’t win in Soton Test. Most people do not like dirty tricks, which were used by the Tories around here. Especially constantly attacking Whitehead for using his communication allowance to stay in touch with his constituents, just like the Tory MPs also very rightly do that as well. But Moulton was conveniently quite about that in his leaflets. So no surprise it backfired on Tories in a big way.
Actually I am not insulting people as you suggest, I am saying that most people vote the way their parents did without looking at the big picture. Southampton gets the MPs they deserve. Two of the last of a dying breed,that is Labour Mps in the south of England. They may have won their seats but their party by its totally disasterous 13 years in power have consigned themselves to at least 20 years in the political wilderness, so it is a hollow victory and proves my point that any voter wanting them to do more damage to this once great country has not looked at their record and voted them out
at the next general election labour will be back with a over all majority, this more than likely be the last time you see the torys having any sort of power for the next 8 to 16 years. and if you look hard in the facts its the tory voters that brainwash there kids more than any labour voter. if labour voters done the same the torys would never off seen power in government again. because they would out number the tory vote at less 10 times more. and if you look even harder into politics you will see there has been not real difference between the 3 main partys in policy for the last 30 years. and is the main reason why more and more voters are not voting because there is no difference. this government will be gone before the end off 2012 and the labour party will be back in power.
do you REALLY think so? I think after the mess Liebore have made of the economy they will be in hibernation for at least a decade. Most people want to see some cash left in their pockets after going to work, not having it all taxed away to pay for those who can't be bothered.
labour took over a bankrupt country form the con tory party.
labour had 13 years to put things right after the 18 years of tory asset striping of the country, and running up hidden debt.
the more people you got unemployed the less money you will have because the tory will hike up on the hidden taxes.
torys will be out in 2012 they are a hung government and hung government dont last long, and it all ways returns the party thats not in power back.
so good bye to the tory party because if they cant get back into power with in 16 years they be gone for good.
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]geoff51[/bold] wrote: Alan Whitehead is typical of the worst type of MP, totally invisible and silent until they can make capital on someone elses back. Let the person in government who has nothing to hide in the sleaze and disaster of the previous Labour administration come forward, no I didn't think so. If you can not say anything constuctive Mr Whitehead about how to recover from the mess your party has made of this country, go back to being silent, its what you are good at.[/p][/quote]In democratic system whether MPs are good or bad is judged by the electorate. You should remember only couple of weeks ago people in Southampton Test did exactly that, when they refused to support your Tory Moulton and re-elected Dr.Alan Whitehead.[/p][/quote]Just goes to show that most people are too lazy or stupid to actually ask themselves what has my MP actually done for the City, and just vote the same as they always have and the same as their parents did. They then get the faceless, voiceless MP they deserve[/p][/quote]if you remember just before the election i told condor man that moulton would not win the mp seat. the swing here was more towards the liberals. this area has has a very high number of people that dont vote because there is no one to represent them. and even with this high number of non voters moulton still could not win. on what has our mp done for us whitehead when he was a councilor done a 10 times more than moulton will ever do, moulton is to interested in his own pockets then he is of the people of his own council ward seat, and it has been notice in the rest of the test seat, moulton will never become an mp in the test.[/p][/quote]Tory Geoff 51 is insulting people by describing most voters as stupid. It is typical Tory arrogance. It is not good telling him to be ashamed of himself for bad manners because the Thatcher’s followers only know bad manners and foul mouthing. In my opinion in democracy the voters are the masters and deserve all the respect. Southy is right, and I also said that Tories won’t win in Soton Test. Most people do not like dirty tricks, which were used by the Tories around here. Especially constantly attacking Whitehead for using his communication allowance to stay in touch with his constituents, just like the Tory MPs also very rightly do that as well. But Moulton was conveniently quite about that in his leaflets. So no surprise it backfired on Tories in a big way.[/p][/quote]Actually I am not insulting people as you suggest, I am saying that most people vote the way their parents did without looking at the big picture. Southampton gets the MPs they deserve. Two of the last of a dying breed,that is Labour Mps in the south of England. They may have won their seats but their party by its totally disasterous 13 years in power have consigned themselves to at least 20 years in the political wilderness, so it is a hollow victory and proves my point that any voter wanting them to do more damage to this once great country has not looked at their record and voted them out[/p][/quote]at the next general election labour will be back with a over all majority, this more than likely be the last time you see the torys having any sort of power for the next 8 to 16 years. and if you look hard in the facts its the tory voters that brainwash there kids more than any labour voter. if labour voters done the same the torys would never off seen power in government again. because they would out number the tory vote at less 10 times more. and if you look even harder into politics you will see there has been not real difference between the 3 main partys in policy for the last 30 years. and is the main reason why more and more voters are not voting because there is no difference. this government will be gone before the end off 2012 and the labour party will be back in power.[/p][/quote]do you REALLY think so? I think after the mess Liebore have made of the economy they will be in hibernation for at least a decade. Most people want to see some cash left in their pockets after going to work, not having it all taxed away to pay for those who can't be bothered.[/p][/quote]labour took over a bankrupt country form the con tory party. labour had 13 years to put things right after the 18 years of tory asset striping of the country, and running up hidden debt. the more people you got unemployed the less money you will have because the tory will hike up on the hidden taxes. torys will be out in 2012 they are a hung government and hung government dont last long, and it all ways returns the party thats not in power back. so good bye to the tory party because if they cant get back into power with in 16 years they be gone for good. southy
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10:52pm Sun 30 May 10

southy says...

condor you are aware that laws has resigned he a goner.
condor you are aware that laws has resigned he a goner. southy
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11:57pm Sun 30 May 10

sass says...

English defence league Hythe division wrote:
damien thorn wrote:
freefinker wrote:
English defence league Hythe division wrote: Just another perverted sleazy dirty example of crooked mps.Sack him now.
Fortunately your nasty collection of fascists and neo-Nazis will always be rejected by the UK population, so you will never be able to fully demonstrate what a “perverted, sleazy, dirty .. crooked” bunch you lot are. Anyway, glad you have solved that little ‘Caps Lock’ problem you had. Now perhaps you should concentrate on inserting commas where they belong. At this rate very soon you will have mastered basic English – quite an accomplishment for you.
english defence league , honey trap for morons , look up the rothchilds etc ,the real menace to all whites.
So the anti english brigade are off on one again.The edl is a non racist movement and was started because of the way parliament has become anti english.The real racists and traitors are the power brokers trying to create a new world order by eroding the english by stealth.
English...English...
English!
Unless you have no respect.
[quote][p][bold]English defence league Hythe division[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damien thorn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]English defence league Hythe division[/bold] wrote: Just another perverted sleazy dirty example of crooked mps.Sack him now.[/p][/quote]Fortunately your nasty collection of fascists and neo-Nazis will always be rejected by the UK population, so you will never be able to fully demonstrate what a “perverted, sleazy, dirty .. crooked” bunch you lot are. Anyway, glad you have solved that little ‘Caps Lock’ problem you had. Now perhaps you should concentrate on inserting commas where they belong. At this rate very soon you will have mastered basic English – quite an accomplishment for you.[/p][/quote]english defence league , honey trap for morons , look up the rothchilds etc ,the real menace to all whites.[/p][/quote]So the anti english brigade are off on one again.The edl is a non racist movement and was started because of the way parliament has become anti english.The real racists and traitors are the power brokers trying to create a new world order by eroding the english by stealth.[/p][/quote]English...English... English! Unless you have no respect. sass
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8:21am Mon 31 May 10

Condor Man says...

sass wrote:
English defence league Hythe division wrote:
damien thorn wrote:
freefinker wrote:
English defence league Hythe division wrote: Just another perverted sleazy dirty example of crooked mps.Sack him now.
Fortunately your nasty collection of fascists and neo-Nazis will always be rejected by the UK population, so you will never be able to fully demonstrate what a “perverted, sleazy, dirty .. crooked” bunch you lot are. Anyway, glad you have solved that little ‘Caps Lock’ problem you had. Now perhaps you should concentrate on inserting commas where they belong. At this rate very soon you will have mastered basic English – quite an accomplishment for you.
english defence league , honey trap for morons , look up the rothchilds etc ,the real menace to all whites.
So the anti english brigade are off on one again.The edl is a non racist movement and was started because of the way parliament has become anti english.The real racists and traitors are the power brokers trying to create a new world order by eroding the english by stealth.
English...English... English! Unless you have no respect.
Far right parties always prosper during periods of Labour governments because lazy white people seem to think they have a divine right not to work and see Labour as their natural supporter. When that support (rightly) doesn't come they look to blame other groups in society. The ignorance of the white under (can't call them working, that's an insult to working people) class is one of the main reasons why this country is in the mire.
[quote][p][bold]sass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]English defence league Hythe division[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damien thorn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]English defence league Hythe division[/bold] wrote: Just another perverted sleazy dirty example of crooked mps.Sack him now.[/p][/quote]Fortunately your nasty collection of fascists and neo-Nazis will always be rejected by the UK population, so you will never be able to fully demonstrate what a “perverted, sleazy, dirty .. crooked” bunch you lot are. Anyway, glad you have solved that little ‘Caps Lock’ problem you had. Now perhaps you should concentrate on inserting commas where they belong. At this rate very soon you will have mastered basic English – quite an accomplishment for you.[/p][/quote]english defence league , honey trap for morons , look up the rothchilds etc ,the real menace to all whites.[/p][/quote]So the anti english brigade are off on one again.The edl is a non racist movement and was started because of the way parliament has become anti english.The real racists and traitors are the power brokers trying to create a new world order by eroding the english by stealth.[/p][/quote]English...English... English! Unless you have no respect.[/p][/quote]Far right parties always prosper during periods of Labour governments because lazy white people seem to think they have a divine right not to work and see Labour as their natural supporter. When that support (rightly) doesn't come they look to blame other groups in society. The ignorance of the white under (can't call them working, that's an insult to working people) class is one of the main reasons why this country is in the mire. Condor Man
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2:38pm Mon 31 May 10

southy says...

Condor Man wrote:
sass wrote:
English defence league Hythe division wrote:
damien thorn wrote:
freefinker wrote:
English defence league Hythe division wrote: Just another perverted sleazy dirty example of crooked mps.Sack him now.
Fortunately your nasty collection of fascists and neo-Nazis will always be rejected by the UK population, so you will never be able to fully demonstrate what a “perverted, sleazy, dirty .. crooked” bunch you lot are. Anyway, glad you have solved that little ‘Caps Lock’ problem you had. Now perhaps you should concentrate on inserting commas where they belong. At this rate very soon you will have mastered basic English – quite an accomplishment for you.
english defence league , honey trap for morons , look up the rothchilds etc ,the real menace to all whites.
So the anti english brigade are off on one again.The edl is a non racist movement and was started because of the way parliament has become anti english.The real racists and traitors are the power brokers trying to create a new world order by eroding the english by stealth.
English...English... English! Unless you have no respect.
Far right parties always prosper during periods of Labour governments because lazy white people seem to think they have a divine right not to work and see Labour as their natural supporter. When that support (rightly) doesn't come they look to blame other groups in society. The ignorance of the white under (can't call them working, that's an insult to working people) class is one of the main reasons why this country is in the mire.
condor stop your bull sh it, because thats all it is total bs.
its your tory party that make people unemployed, thats why they are known has the party of high unemployment,
they like high unemployment because it means cheap work force, all they are interested in is ripping off the work force.
look at the facts the highest unemployment is all ways under a tory government, biggest melt downs of the economy comes under the tory goverment, highest drime rate higher poverity, people losing there homes getting into bigger debt all happens under a tory government, its been like that though out there intire history. wake up to the fact will you. stop believing in that capitalist propaganda. go and spend 3 years study in political history.
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]English defence league Hythe division[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damien thorn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]English defence league Hythe division[/bold] wrote: Just another perverted sleazy dirty example of crooked mps.Sack him now.[/p][/quote]Fortunately your nasty collection of fascists and neo-Nazis will always be rejected by the UK population, so you will never be able to fully demonstrate what a “perverted, sleazy, dirty .. crooked” bunch you lot are. Anyway, glad you have solved that little ‘Caps Lock’ problem you had. Now perhaps you should concentrate on inserting commas where they belong. At this rate very soon you will have mastered basic English – quite an accomplishment for you.[/p][/quote]english defence league , honey trap for morons , look up the rothchilds etc ,the real menace to all whites.[/p][/quote]So the anti english brigade are off on one again.The edl is a non racist movement and was started because of the way parliament has become anti english.The real racists and traitors are the power brokers trying to create a new world order by eroding the english by stealth.[/p][/quote]English...English... English! Unless you have no respect.[/p][/quote]Far right parties always prosper during periods of Labour governments because lazy white people seem to think they have a divine right not to work and see Labour as their natural supporter. When that support (rightly) doesn't come they look to blame other groups in society. The ignorance of the white under (can't call them working, that's an insult to working people) class is one of the main reasons why this country is in the mire.[/p][/quote]condor stop your bull sh it, because thats all it is total bs. its your tory party that make people unemployed, thats why they are known has the party of high unemployment, they like high unemployment because it means cheap work force, all they are interested in is ripping off the work force. look at the facts the highest unemployment is all ways under a tory government, biggest melt downs of the economy comes under the tory goverment, highest drime rate higher poverity, people losing there homes getting into bigger debt all happens under a tory government, its been like that though out there intire history. wake up to the fact will you. stop believing in that capitalist propaganda. go and spend 3 years study in political history. southy
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