Government minister to lay foundation stone for project on Woolston site (From Daily Echo)

chucking 400 families off the council waiting list into blocks of flats has been proved in the past not to work. I pity anyone living close to this development.

Here is the figure that tells me this is a massive white elephant and in no way a solution to a housing crisis for Southampton families -

"1,472 flats and 148 town houses"

Anyone else see the flaws????

Solution to the housing crisis? Not unless they are priced at £50,000 each and larger than shoeboxes.

News Fanatic wrote:
Solution to the housing crisis? Not unless they are priced at £50,000 each and larger than shoeboxes.

I agree with you on that front. I cant afford a house, I cant even afford rent and work fulltime!

I dont think theres anything wrong with flats. It just needs to incorporate car parking and cycle/motorcycle parking under the building itself (as has been done with some newer properties in the city centre).
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They also need to be reasonably sized internally. Its not good being able to sit on the loo and make a fry up at the same time ;-P
What we need to be aware of is that we dont put ourselves into Ghetto-housing territory

Condor Man wrote:
chucking 400 families off the council waiting list into blocks of flats has been proved in the past not to work. I pity anyone living close to this development.

Mug

Ted Rogers wrote:
Here is the figure that tells me this is a massive white elephant and in no way a solution to a housing crisis for Southampton families - "1,472 flats and 148 town houses" Anyone else see the flaws????

Ted

Have a cup of tea

"as the solution to some of the city’s housing shortage"
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There is no shortage of housing in Southampton.

Block41row0sfc wrote:

Condor Man wrote:
chucking 400 families off the council waiting list into blocks of flats has been proved in the past not to work. I pity anyone living close to this development.

Mug

Nice to see that you have been working on the size your vocabulary. I know they say that English is one of the more difficult languages to master buy you seem to have proven that in can be achieved.

for flats , read apartments because once most of these are on the market , the developer will be coining it in on certain apartments with a river view...
if anyone wants a real laugh , drive down there this evening , notice anything ? yes thats right , they have perfumed the sewage works ahead of tomorrows visit !! if you do not believe me , go down there and your nose will not deceive you !! incredible... I wonder if Pickles will fall for it !?!?

downfader wrote:
I dont think theres anything wrong with flats. It just needs to incorporate car parking and cycle/motorcycle parking under the building itself (as has been done with some newer properties in the city centre).
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They also need to be reasonably sized internally. Its not good being able to sit on the loo and make a fry up at the same time ;-P
What we need to be aware of is that we dont put ourselves into Ghetto-housing territory

It's okay now, the new Government have declared that the old policy of massive blocks of flat without parking (to encourage use of loser cruisers and trains etc.) is a thing of the past.

I'm sure the plans will be redrawn to have a minimum of 1.5 spaces per dwelling like the good old days.....or will it just be more rhetoric and BS from Mr. Royston Smith et al ???

Stillness wrote:

Block41row0sfc wrote:

Condor Man wrote: chucking 400 families off the council waiting list into blocks of flats has been proved in the past not to work. I pity anyone living close to this development.

Mug

Nice to see that you have been working on the size your vocabulary. I know they say that English is one of the more difficult languages to master buy you seem to have proven that in can be achieved.

"proven that in can be achieved"
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POT//KETTLE

Atpost wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Block41row0sfc wrote:

Condor Man wrote: chucking 400 families off the council waiting list into blocks of flats has been proved in the past not to work. I pity anyone living close to this development.

Mug

Nice to see that you have been working on the size your vocabulary. I know they say that English is one of the more difficult languages to master buy you seem to have proven that in can be achieved.

"proven that in can be achieved"
..
POT//KETTLE

From O E D:
Proven: Established beyond doubt, and he has.

How times have changed, only last year the illustrious now leader of the council was telling us that it would be 5 years before the soil is soil on Centenary Quay and now we have this story, I believe when I see it.

I'm so glad a government minister is visiting Southampton, hopefully people will use this opportunity to give the Tory hatchet man Eric Pickles a hard time about this governments scrapping of the BSF programme, the scrapping of Playbuilders play improvements programme and the scrapping of the pre-school programme, which has cost our city millions of pounds, the knock on effect of these cuts is a body blow for everyone in the city.

The Edge of Reason wrote:
How times have changed, only last year the illustrious now leader of the council was telling us that it would be 5 years before the soil is soil on Centenary Quay and now we have this story, I believe when I see it.

I'm so glad a government minister is visiting Southampton, hopefully people will use this opportunity to give the Tory hatchet man Eric Pickles a hard time about this governments scrapping of the BSF programme, the scrapping of Playbuilders play improvements programme and the scrapping of the pre-school programme, which has cost our city millions of pounds, the knock on effect of these cuts is a body blow for everyone in the city.

Some typo's previously

How times have changed, only last year the illustrious now leader of the council was telling us that it would be 5 years before the soil is broken on Centenary Quay and now we have this story, I will believe it when I see it.

I'm so glad a government minister is visiting Southampton, hopefully people will use this opportunity to give the Tory hatchet man Eric Pickles a hard time about this governments scrapping of the BSF programme, the scrapping of Playbuilders play improvements programme and the scrapping of the pre-school programme, which has cost our city millions of pounds, the knock on effect of these cuts is a body blow for everyone in the city.

Stillness wrote:

Atpost wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Block41row0sfc wrote:

Condor Man wrote: chucking 400 families off the council waiting list into blocks of flats has been proved in the past not to work. I pity anyone living close to this development.

Mug

Nice to see that you have been working on the size your vocabulary. I know they say that English is one of the more difficult languages to master buy you seem to have proven that in can be achieved.

"proven that in can be achieved" .. POT//KETTLE

From O E D: Proven: Established beyond doubt, and he has.

"proven that in can be achieved"
Read that phrase again. If you cannot see a problem, call the samaritans

Leigh Park on stilts!

Atpost wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Atpost wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Block41row0sfc wrote:

Condor Man wrote: chucking 400 families off the council waiting list into blocks of flats has been proved in the past not to work. I pity anyone living close to this development.

Mug

Nice to see that you have been working on the size your vocabulary. I know they say that English is one of the more difficult languages to master buy you seem to have proven that in can be achieved.

"proven that in can be achieved" .. POT//KETTLE

From O E D: Proven: Established beyond doubt, and he has.

"proven that in can be achieved"
Read that phrase again. If you cannot see a problem, call the samaritans

You are proven guilty, of being a smart a**.

Atpost wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Atpost wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Block41row0sfc wrote:

Condor Man wrote: chucking 400 families off the council waiting list into blocks of flats has been proved in the past not to work. I pity anyone living close to this development.

Mug

Nice to see that you have been working on the size your vocabulary. I know they say that English is one of the more difficult languages to master buy you seem to have proven that in can be achieved.

"proven that in can be achieved" .. POT//KETTLE

From O E D: Proven: Established beyond doubt, and he has.

"proven that in can be achieved"
Read that phrase again. If you cannot see a problem, call the samaritans

It has been "established beyond doubt" that English can be mastered. Just as you have “proven” that that you are sad, sad person. I see that you are in favour of one word answers.
MUG.

downfader wrote:

News Fanatic wrote: Solution to the housing crisis? Not unless they are priced at £50,000 each and larger than shoeboxes.

I agree with you on that front. I cant afford a house, I cant even afford rent and work fulltime!

They will be given all to our new eu community and white working class people will not be given a chance as usual.

fantastic great project ,good design plus lots of jobs,
mind you i,m not a negative person

Stillness wrote:

Atpost wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Atpost wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Block41row0sfc wrote:

Condor Man wrote: chucking 400 families off the council waiting list into blocks of flats has been proved in the past not to work. I pity anyone living close to this development.

Mug

Nice to see that you have been working on the size your vocabulary. I know they say that English is one of the more difficult languages to master buy you seem to have proven that in can be achieved.

"proven that in can be achieved" .. POT//KETTLE

From O E D: Proven: Established beyond doubt, and he has.

"proven that in can be achieved" Read that phrase again. If you cannot see a problem, call the samaritans

It has been "established beyond doubt" that English can be mastered. Just as you have “proven” that that you are sad, sad person. I see that you are in favour of one word answers. MUG.

YOU STILL CAN'T SEE YOUR MISTAKE
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!
Are you mad?
DO YOU WANT ME TO POINT IT OUT, OR WILL YOU SEE IT AND CRAWL OFF IN SHAME

Atpost wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Atpost wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Atpost wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Block41row0sfc wrote:

Condor Man wrote: chucking 400 families off the council waiting list into blocks of flats has been proved in the past not to work. I pity anyone living close to this development.

Mug

Nice to see that you have been working on the size your vocabulary. I know they say that English is one of the more difficult languages to master buy you seem to have proven that in can be achieved.

"proven that in can be achieved" .. POT//KETTLE

From O E D: Proven: Established beyond doubt, and he has.

"proven that in can be achieved" Read that phrase again. If you cannot see a problem, call the samaritans

It has been "established beyond doubt" that English can be mastered. Just as you have “proven” that that you are sad, sad person. I see that you are in favour of one word answers. MUG.

YOU STILL CAN'T SEE YOUR MISTAKE
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!
Are you mad?
DO YOU WANT ME TO POINT IT OUT, OR WILL YOU SEE IT AND CRAWL OFF IN SHAME

You point it out. I'm sure your ego will be grateful.

"proven that IN can be achieved"

IN
IN
IN

Atpost wrote:
"proven that IN can be achieved"

IN
IN
IN

Do you drink? Need a number for AA? Try Google.

thesaint wrote:
fantastic great project ,good design plus lots of jobs,
mind you i,m not a negative person

I think you must be in the wrong place.
Kindly leave immediately and return when you have adopted an attitude which we are all familiar with on this site.

thesaint wrote:
fantastic great project ,good design plus lots of jobs, mind you i,m not a negative person

How many jobs for local britsh workers will be available ?

88hythe wrote:

thesaint wrote: fantastic great project ,good design plus lots of jobs, mind you i,m not a negative person

How many jobs for local britsh workers will be available ?

not relevant since all EU citizens have economic freedom of movement, who cares what part of the EU the workers come from !? Brits work in spain , germany , france and Italy in their tens of thousands....

MGRA wrote:

88hythe wrote:

thesaint wrote: fantastic great project ,good design plus lots of jobs, mind you i,m not a negative person

How many jobs for local britsh workers will be available ?

not relevant since all EU citizens have economic freedom of movement, who cares what part of the EU the workers come from !? Brits work in spain , germany , france and Italy in their tens of thousands....

Also, how many local, British workers will be bothered to get off their rear ends and apply for work?

Eastern Europeans are typically very committed workers on construction sites. The British like to stand around and chat all day.

also , if this development gets a decent passenger ferry service to the city, the decent apartments which will be a sizeable chunk will attract people who work in southampton but dont want to live in the chav-parade that has become the city residential areas...if however the river taxi ( an obvious transport solution ) fails to materialise then this development will turn woolston into a log-jam of traffic from 8-9:30 and 5-6 every working day. Further-more for woolston to be re-invented , niche retailers need to set up there and this won't happen if there no alternative to the itchen bridge to get people back and forth...

Linesman wrote:

MGRA wrote:

88hythe wrote:

thesaint wrote: fantastic great project ,good design plus lots of jobs, mind you i,m not a negative person

How many jobs for local britsh workers will be available ?

not relevant since all EU citizens have economic freedom of movement, who cares what part of the EU the workers come from !? Brits work in spain , germany , france and Italy in their tens of thousands....

Also, how many local, British workers will be bothered to get off their rear ends and apply for work?

you need to get your facts right ,,,,,,,,,,,british cant work in the EU without a work visa, EU people can just come over here and work,no documents and most of them not quallified,then come the families to join the NHS and bump up the taxes,i know of loads of EU people not paying tax or insurance ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,do you

all they are doing is moving Weston estate along the river abit, 3 tower blocks 25 stories high (the same hight as the biggest block in Weston Canberra towers), a new woolston library why do we need it when the council has just sacked 58 librarian so saying themselves that library's are a dying thing, they spend a fortune on the one in the civic centre i've lived in woolston for 46 years & i've never been in there, a 100 bed hotel who the hell wants to stay in an hotel in woolston, we have more empty shops in woolston than st mary's, as for parking the council are not even gonna put 1 space per flat/apartment/house so tell me in this day & age with alot of families having 2 cars where are 3000+ cars gonna go ?, put something in woolston that the people here want & will bring money & make it a nicer place to live, it would have made an idea place for the new ice rink or snowdome that they are talking about instead of a tiny piece of land in st mary's which means the rink won't be big enough to have hockey matches there what is the bloody point of that, this council & the ones before them are so far out of touch with the people of this city it's frightening.

Good god, chav grand central in woolston. I drove through there the other day and it really does stink of sewage. I think they should re-house all the poor people who can't be bothered to work and find benefits so difficult to survive on that they dont know where their next bottle of white lightning and 20 fags is coming from. Being givena posh new flat will really change their way of thinking

nicko wrote:

Linesman wrote:

MGRA wrote:

88hythe wrote:

thesaint wrote: fantastic great project ,good design plus lots of jobs, mind you i,m not a negative person

How many jobs for local britsh workers will be available ?

not relevant since all EU citizens have economic freedom of movement, who cares what part of the EU the workers come from !? Brits work in spain , germany , france and Italy in their tens of thousands....

Also, how many local, British workers will be bothered to get off their rear ends and apply for work?

you need to get your facts right ,,,,,,,,,,,british cant work in the EU without a work visa, EU people can just come over here and work,no documents and most of them not quallified,then come the families to join the NHS and bump up the taxes,i know of loads of EU people not paying tax or insurance ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,do you

you have been on the special brew a bit to early !
You don't need a visa to travel within the EU and you don't need a visa to work in the EU.
You need to sober up and join the real world where the facts are simple. There is economic union within the EU and freedom of economic migration , the spanners only being Romania/bulgaria citizens have special constrainst and obviously we are not in the Euro... "visa" !?!? hilarious....