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Unions vow to fight council ban on staff wearing short skirts at work


HOW high can they go?

That’s the question women working for a Hampshire council will be asking themselves after bosses banned mini-skirts.

Clothes police at Southampton City Council will be cracking down on short skirts and dresses and could send staff home to change if they are showing too much leg.

But confusion surrounds exactly what is acceptable after council chiefs said there was no specific rules on skirt length and insisted there was no “rigid dress code”.

Female workers are merely being be told to make sure they wear “appropriate” clothing for their line of work.

Unions last night vowed to fight the mini-skirt ban.

The Daily Echo has obtained a memo sent to staff setting out examples of smart casual clothing women should wear, including informal dresses or skirts of “reasonable” length or trousers but “not mini-skirts” or jeans.

The leaked document advised men to wear collared or polo shirts, cotton trousers such as khakis or chinos with a belt, and “dress shoes”.

It warned social workers, youth workers, educational welfare officers and others in the children’s services department to “carefully consider their work attire”.

It said: “During the coming weeks managers will be speaking to staff about the clothes they wear to work and making sure that they are appropriate for the activities they undertake.”

It added: “Please try to dress smartly and thoughtfully, in line with other professionals you come across in your day-to-day work, and in a way that shows respect to children and families.”

One council worker, who did not want to be identified, told the Daily Echo said: “So now the council is deciding what we can and cannot wear. What is a mini-skirt? Micro-minis would probably not be acceptable, but above the knee? Are they going to come around with a tape measure? I thought the principle was to get the job done for the council taxpayers.”

The council’s Unison branch secretary Mike Tucker said: “I would have thought the council has got better things to do than impose a regimented approach to what people wear. If anyone is disciplined we are more than happy to defend them.”

In a statement the council said: “Southampton City Council does not have a rigid dress code. However, like all major employers, we do ask staff to dress appropriately in their workplaces.

“Staff interact with thousands of residents, business and partners daily.”

Council leader Cllr Royston Smith said: “I think this is a common sense, low bureaucracy approach and we’re sure the public and staff would agree is the right one.”

But people in Southampton city centre were divided over the mini-skirt ban.

Student Gaini Dosanova, 24, said: “I think mini-skirts look very good. I don’t understand why they want to ban them. You can wear them causally, to go shopping and I think they are suitable for smart casual at work. Also they’re quite cheap.”

Comments(39)

mummsie says...
11:57am Fri 30 Jul 10

Bloody cheek SCC!

southy says...
12:22pm Fri 30 Jul 10

well if the council wants to control how they dress, then its up to the council to supply the cloths free off charge.

Tommy News says...
12:32pm Fri 30 Jul 10

Carry on council!

driverbelcher says...
12:33pm Fri 30 Jul 10

southy wrote:
well if the council wants to control how they dress, then its up to the council to supply the cloths free off charge.
Cloths? Are you advocating loin cloths or something Southy?

southy says...
12:42pm Fri 30 Jul 10

driverbelcher wrote:
southy wrote:
well if the council wants to control how they dress, then its up to the council to supply the cloths free off charge.
Cloths? Are you advocating loin cloths or something Southy?
no i an advocating the supply of clothes free of charge if the council wants to dictate on how people dress. untill they do that then they have no right on how a person dress.

Ted Rogers says...
1:05pm Fri 30 Jul 10

Absolutely nothing wrong at all for an employer to insist that appropriate attire be worn whilst in the workplace.

Most reasonable people understand this and dress appropriately of their own volition.

Still lets not get in the way of an opportunity to knock the council.

Echo, why don't you show an interest into areas of the council that has a far bigger impact on residents and taxpayers instead of getting hung up on this ridiculous piece?

driverbelcher says...
1:08pm Fri 30 Jul 10

southy wrote:
driverbelcher wrote:
southy wrote: well if the council wants to control how they dress, then its up to the council to supply the cloths free off charge.
Cloths? Are you advocating loin cloths or something Southy?
no i an advocating the supply of clothes free of charge if the council wants to dictate on how people dress. untill they do that then they have no right on how a person dress.
Sir,

You clearly advocated the supply of cloths, not clothes.

mummsie says...
1:13pm Fri 30 Jul 10

SCC are discriminating against women!

southy says...
1:20pm Fri 30 Jul 10

driverbelcher wrote:
southy wrote:
driverbelcher wrote:
southy wrote: well if the council wants to control how they dress, then its up to the council to supply the cloths free off charge.
Cloths? Are you advocating loin cloths or something Southy?
no i an advocating the supply of clothes free of charge if the council wants to dictate on how people dress. untill they do that then they have no right on how a person dress.
Sir,

You clearly advocated the supply of cloths, not clothes.
no it was just a typo error thats all so dont try to make a big thing out of it.

RadicalEmu says...
1:39pm Fri 30 Jul 10

s/w: like-knee
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I think it's fair enough, to a degree, so long as it's not done to extremes. There is a difference between short and mini.
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A lot of workplaces have uniforms, everyone in the same clothes every day. I don't personally like that, but at least everyone's in the same boat.
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Many workplaces declare a man must have trousers, shirt and tie at all times.
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Maybe a bit of true equality could come out of this, if a tie is to be worn, it is to be worn by everyone. If short skirts are accepted (and why not?) why not shorts for men? etc...

espanuel says...
1:43pm Fri 30 Jul 10

I thought the residents of Southampton were the employers for the SCC. Common sense prevails at the end of the day.

S!mon says...
1:47pm Fri 30 Jul 10

People are making a meal out of nothing. An employer has every right to make a reasonable request. Why? Cos they pay your wages.

Its not an unreasonable request - they haven't banned skirts and they've asked kindly.

Just stop moaning and get on with it.

SRH74 says...
1:47pm Fri 30 Jul 10

I work in a building that has some SCC workers and I can see why they have banned them! lol!

Condor Man says...
1:48pm Fri 30 Jul 10

only a slob like Tucker would oppose this. SCC staff should not come to work in jeans, T shirts or anything that is not appropriate for the setting. Female staff should dress more conservatively, after all it's work not a fashion contest

jenny75 says...
2:07pm Fri 30 Jul 10

I have never seen a smart council worker or civil servant, all a bunch of scruffs. Anyway they are there to do a job, not to show off how attractive their legs are. It's about time people abided by some rules.

lowe esteem says...
2:08pm Fri 30 Jul 10

RadicalEmu wrote:
s/w: like-knee . I think it's fair enough, to a degree, so long as it's not done to extremes. There is a difference between short and mini. . A lot of workplaces have uniforms, everyone in the same clothes every day. I don't personally like that, but at least everyone's in the same boat. . Many workplaces declare a man must have trousers, shirt and tie at all times. . Maybe a bit of true equality could come out of this, if a tie is to be worn, it is to be worn by everyone. If short skirts are accepted (and why not?) why not shorts for men? etc...
It's a small thing to get excited about, but aren't you splitting hairs on what's short and what's mini?

Nobody seems to have taken account of the weather either.

Paramjit Bahia says...
2:16pm Fri 30 Jul 10

Difficult to understand these Tories. Some of them in London want to ban the ‘Burka’ because it covers too much and here in Southampton they want to ban ‘mini skirts’ for complete opposite reason.
What can women possibly do to satisfy the ‘Tory Talibans’? Simply tell them to shut up and mind there own business and wear what makes them feel comfortable.
Tory Talibans seem to have forgotten how Mahatma Gandhi whom the kept on locking up dressed and changed the world and how their goddess of evil Maggie dressed but made our country a miserable place. Proves that it is the person who does the job not the clothes she/he wears.

Iain says...
2:29pm Fri 30 Jul 10

How long is the queue for the post of Southampton City Council Short Skirt Measuring Officer?

frenchvic says...
2:58pm Fri 30 Jul 10

mummsie wrote:
SCC are discriminating against women!
WRONG. If they ban them they are discriminating against men.

mbetts says...
3:08pm Fri 30 Jul 10

Bet this was a decision proposed by some munter with awful legs and a pretty assistant!

Sounds like a decision based on jealousy and definitely not a (straight) blokes idea!

RadicalEmu says...
3:34pm Fri 30 Jul 10

lowe esteem wrote:
RadicalEmu wrote:
s/w: like-knee . I think it's fair enough, to a degree, so long as it's not done to extremes. There is a difference between short and mini. . A lot of workplaces have uniforms, everyone in the same clothes every day. I don't personally like that, but at least everyone's in the same boat. . Many workplaces declare a man must have trousers, shirt and tie at all times. . Maybe a bit of true equality could come out of this, if a tie is to be worn, it is to be worn by everyone. If short skirts are accepted (and why not?) why not shorts for men? etc...
It's a small thing to get excited about, but aren't you splitting hairs on what's short and what's mini?

Nobody seems to have taken account of the weather either.
Not splitting hairs, just pointing out that there is a difference. Short could be any number of lengths above the knee, whereas mini is definitely mini.

Maine Lobster says...
4:04pm Fri 30 Jul 10

Unbelievable that time and effort is being wasted on this rubbish.Who cares?
The Council officer responsible for this ridiculous waste of energy (no doubt a highly paid one) clearly does not have enough to do.

Linesman says...
5:18pm Fri 30 Jul 10

southy wrote:
driverbelcher wrote:
southy wrote:
driverbelcher wrote:
southy wrote: well if the council wants to control how they dress, then its up to the council to supply the cloths free off charge.
Cloths? Are you advocating loin cloths or something Southy?
no i an advocating the supply of clothes free of charge if the council wants to dictate on how people dress. untill they do that then they have no right on how a person dress.
Sir, You clearly advocated the supply of cloths, not clothes.
no it was just a typo error thats all so dont try to make a big thing out of it.
Take no notice Southy.
He wants to make himself look big by making you look small.

headworm says...
5:27pm Fri 30 Jul 10

I'd love to know the specific reasons why they want to 'ban' miniskirts. Is it because someone might catch a glimpse of some lady knickers and be offended or succumb to the temptation to drop a few coins to snatch (no pun intended.. honest) a better look??
I've been in several shops where knickers are freely on display for all to see, no problem there so what's the difference. Unless these council workers are also going commando just leave them alone fgs. If you have a problem with it, get some councilling or something. Some people have way too much power and time on their hands.

southy says...
5:58pm Fri 30 Jul 10

Condor Man wrote:
only a slob like Tucker would oppose this. SCC staff should not come to work in jeans, T shirts or anything that is not appropriate for the setting. Female staff should dress more conservatively, after all it's work not a fashion contest
they are there to a job, how they dress do not effect the job, if the council wants to dictate on what clothes they have on then they should supply the cloths that are required free of charge, and that go's for any work place.

southy says...
6:00pm Fri 30 Jul 10

Linesman wrote:
southy wrote:
driverbelcher wrote:
southy wrote:
driverbelcher wrote:
southy wrote: well if the council wants to control how they dress, then its up to the council to supply the cloths free off charge.
Cloths? Are you advocating loin cloths or something Southy?
no i an advocating the supply of clothes free of charge if the council wants to dictate on how people dress. untill they do that then they have no right on how a person dress.
Sir, You clearly advocated the supply of cloths, not clothes.
no it was just a typo error thats all so dont try to make a big thing out of it.
Take no notice Southy.
He wants to make himself look big by making you look small.
he never be able to do that lnesman, he dont think enough.

driverbelcher says...
6:14pm Fri 30 Jul 10

southy wrote:
driverbelcher wrote:
southy wrote:
driverbelcher wrote:
southy wrote: well if the council wants to control how they dress, then its up to the council to supply the cloths free off charge.
Cloths? Are you advocating loin cloths or something Southy?
no i an advocating the supply of clothes free of charge if the council wants to dictate on how people dress. untill they do that then they have no right on how a person dress.
Sir, You clearly advocated the supply of cloths, not clothes.
no it was just a typo error thats all so dont try to make a big thing out of it.
You make a lot of typographical errors don't you sir?

RadicalEmu says...
6:19pm Fri 30 Jul 10

driverbelcher: Does it matter? No.

EM27, says...
6:27pm Fri 30 Jul 10

RadicalEmu wrote:
driverbelcher: Does it matter? No.
It matters about as much as you, so you're right emu, it doesn't matter, it has no significance and brings nothing to any debate.

Hey Southy and Linesman, Radical wants to be in your gang, he wants to be your buddy.
Sad pathetic loser, keep out of other peoples on line conversations you muppet

cmth40 says...
6:37pm Fri 30 Jul 10

all the pc,and discrimination rubbish should be put in a bin and burnt,mini,s are ok when your out at night,in the day skirts should be a cover not a display,the same as burka,s,lads showing their underwear,as their trousers are at half mast,and girls and woman that walk the streets with boobs hanging out,and skirts showing top thighs,or walking about in their tights that they think looks fab,if you want wear leggings,our youngsters and some older are so scuffy in dress as with our students,were is respect for their bodies gone,most girls look like they want to be on a street corner then wonder why they get touched upand the undie showing lads,well are they looking for a job as a rent boy

forest hump says...
10:04pm Fri 30 Jul 10

Does it matter? Southy has the same right as you to view his opinions.

mummsie says...
10:41pm Fri 30 Jul 10

frenchvic wrote:
mummsie wrote:
SCC are discriminating against women!
WRONG. If they ban them they are discriminating against men.
Ha ha LOL very good!

Spot O'Bother says...
6:38am Sat 31 Jul 10

Southy you reverted to cloths again.

s/w lady-will (you can't make this stuff up)

Iw61 says...
6:49am Sat 31 Jul 10

As long as the dress code is smart and safe, workers should wear what they are comfortable in.
I dont pay council tax to see over-expensed councillors policing what staff should wear..
this is petty and vindictive action by the Tory Taliban who run the council. Roll on next May!

southy says...
12:13pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Spot O'Bother wrote:
Southy you reverted to cloths again.

s/w lady-will (you can't make this stuff up)
its the keyboard its 12 years old now

Stu J says...
10:01pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Some of you are totally thick. Mini skirts are about showing off legs and it can be quite distracting to men. Work is NOT an appropriate place for trying to get attention like that, you're supposed to be a part of a team with a common objective of getting the work accomplished as best as possible, it's what you're paid for. If you want to look like a hooker do it on your own time, not the time that my taxes help pay for.

bemused26 says...
12:48pm Mon 2 Aug 10

southy wrote:
Spot O'Bother wrote:
Southy you reverted to cloths again.

s/w lady-will (you can't make this stuff up)
its the keyboard its 12 years old now
Nice one!

RadicalEmu says...
5:08pm Mon 2 Aug 10

EM27, wrote:
RadicalEmu wrote:
driverbelcher: Does it matter? No.
It matters about as much as you, so you're right emu, it doesn't matter, it has no significance and brings nothing to any debate.

Hey Southy and Linesman, Radical wants to be in your gang, he wants to be your buddy.
Sad pathetic loser, keep out of other peoples on line conversations you muppet
You need a hug...

Shoong says...
10:27am Wed 4 Aug 10

If you don't like it, leave.

However, quitting over dress code seems rather immature to me.


The Civic Centre and inset mini skirt fan Gaini Dosanova. The Civic Centre and inset mini skirt fan Gaini Dosanova.

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