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11:47am Friday 30th July 2010 in
HOW high can they go?
That’s the question women working for a Hampshire council will be asking themselves after bosses banned mini-skirts.
Clothes police at Southampton City Council will be cracking down on short skirts and dresses and could send staff home to change if they are showing too much leg.
But confusion surrounds exactly what is acceptable after council chiefs said there was no specific rules on skirt length and insisted there was no “rigid dress code”.
Female workers are merely being be told to make sure they wear “appropriate” clothing for their line of work.
Unions last night vowed to fight the mini-skirt ban.
The Daily Echo has obtained a memo sent to staff setting out examples of smart casual clothing women should wear, including informal dresses or skirts of “reasonable” length or trousers but “not mini-skirts” or jeans.
The leaked document advised men to wear collared or polo shirts, cotton trousers such as khakis or chinos with a belt, and “dress shoes”.
It warned social workers, youth workers, educational welfare officers and others in the children’s services department to “carefully consider their work attire”.
It said: “During the coming weeks managers will be speaking to staff about the clothes they wear to work and making sure that they are appropriate for the activities they undertake.”
It added: “Please try to dress smartly and thoughtfully, in line with other professionals you come across in your day-to-day work, and in a way that shows respect to children and families.”
One council worker, who did not want to be identified, told the Daily Echo said: “So now the council is deciding what we can and cannot wear. What is a mini-skirt? Micro-minis would probably not be acceptable, but above the knee? Are they going to come around with a tape measure? I thought the principle was to get the job done for the council taxpayers.”
The council’s Unison branch secretary Mike Tucker said: “I would have thought the council has got better things to do than impose a regimented approach to what people wear. If anyone is disciplined we are more than happy to defend them.”
In a statement the council said: “Southampton City Council does not have a rigid dress code. However, like all major employers, we do ask staff to dress appropriately in their workplaces.
“Staff interact with thousands of residents, business and partners daily.”
Council leader Cllr Royston Smith said: “I think this is a common sense, low bureaucracy approach and we’re sure the public and staff would agree is the right one.”
But people in Southampton city centre were divided over the mini-skirt ban.
Student Gaini Dosanova, 24, said: “I think mini-skirts look very good. I don’t understand why they want to ban them. You can wear them causally, to go shopping and I think they are suitable for smart casual at work. Also they’re quite cheap.”
Comments(39)
southy
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12:22pm Fri 30 Jul 10
Tommy News
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12:32pm Fri 30 Jul 10
driverbelcher
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12:33pm Fri 30 Jul 10
southy wrote:Cloths? Are you advocating loin cloths or something Southy?
well if the council wants to control how they dress, then its up to the council to supply the cloths free off charge.
southy
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12:42pm Fri 30 Jul 10
driverbelcher wrote:no i an advocating the supply of clothes free of charge if the council wants to dictate on how people dress. untill they do that then they have no right on how a person dress.
southy wrote:Cloths? Are you advocating loin cloths or something Southy?
well if the council wants to control how they dress, then its up to the council to supply the cloths free off charge.
Ted Rogers
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1:05pm Fri 30 Jul 10
driverbelcher
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1:08pm Fri 30 Jul 10
southy wrote:Sir,
driverbelcher wrote:no i an advocating the supply of clothes free of charge if the council wants to dictate on how people dress. untill they do that then they have no right on how a person dress.southy wrote: well if the council wants to control how they dress, then its up to the council to supply the cloths free off charge.Cloths? Are you advocating loin cloths or something Southy?
mummsie
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1:13pm Fri 30 Jul 10
southy
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1:20pm Fri 30 Jul 10
driverbelcher wrote:no it was just a typo error thats all so dont try to make a big thing out of it.
southy wrote:Sir,
driverbelcher wrote:no i an advocating the supply of clothes free of charge if the council wants to dictate on how people dress. untill they do that then they have no right on how a person dress.southy wrote: well if the council wants to control how they dress, then its up to the council to supply the cloths free off charge.Cloths? Are you advocating loin cloths or something Southy?
You clearly advocated the supply of cloths, not clothes.
RadicalEmu
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1:39pm Fri 30 Jul 10
espanuel
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1:43pm Fri 30 Jul 10
S!mon
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1:47pm Fri 30 Jul 10
SRH74
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1:47pm Fri 30 Jul 10
Condor Man
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1:48pm Fri 30 Jul 10
jenny75
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2:07pm Fri 30 Jul 10
lowe esteem
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2:08pm Fri 30 Jul 10
RadicalEmu wrote:It's a small thing to get excited about, but aren't you splitting hairs on what's short and what's mini?
s/w: like-knee . I think it's fair enough, to a degree, so long as it's not done to extremes. There is a difference between short and mini. . A lot of workplaces have uniforms, everyone in the same clothes every day. I don't personally like that, but at least everyone's in the same boat. . Many workplaces declare a man must have trousers, shirt and tie at all times. . Maybe a bit of true equality could come out of this, if a tie is to be worn, it is to be worn by everyone. If short skirts are accepted (and why not?) why not shorts for men? etc...
Paramjit Bahia
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2:16pm Fri 30 Jul 10
Iain
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2:29pm Fri 30 Jul 10
frenchvic
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2:58pm Fri 30 Jul 10
mummsie wrote:WRONG. If they ban them they are discriminating against men.
SCC are discriminating against women!
mbetts
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3:08pm Fri 30 Jul 10
RadicalEmu
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3:34pm Fri 30 Jul 10
lowe esteem wrote:Not splitting hairs, just pointing out that there is a difference. Short could be any number of lengths above the knee, whereas mini is definitely mini.
RadicalEmu wrote:It's a small thing to get excited about, but aren't you splitting hairs on what's short and what's mini?
s/w: like-knee . I think it's fair enough, to a degree, so long as it's not done to extremes. There is a difference between short and mini. . A lot of workplaces have uniforms, everyone in the same clothes every day. I don't personally like that, but at least everyone's in the same boat. . Many workplaces declare a man must have trousers, shirt and tie at all times. . Maybe a bit of true equality could come out of this, if a tie is to be worn, it is to be worn by everyone. If short skirts are accepted (and why not?) why not shorts for men? etc...
Nobody seems to have taken account of the weather either.
Maine Lobster
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4:04pm Fri 30 Jul 10
Linesman
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5:18pm Fri 30 Jul 10
southy wrote:Take no notice Southy.
driverbelcher wrote:no it was just a typo error thats all so dont try to make a big thing out of it.southy wrote:Sir, You clearly advocated the supply of cloths, not clothes.driverbelcher wrote:no i an advocating the supply of clothes free of charge if the council wants to dictate on how people dress. untill they do that then they have no right on how a person dress.southy wrote: well if the council wants to control how they dress, then its up to the council to supply the cloths free off charge.Cloths? Are you advocating loin cloths or something Southy?
headworm
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5:27pm Fri 30 Jul 10
southy
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5:58pm Fri 30 Jul 10
Condor Man wrote:they are there to a job, how they dress do not effect the job, if the council wants to dictate on what clothes they have on then they should supply the cloths that are required free of charge, and that go's for any work place.
only a slob like Tucker would oppose this. SCC staff should not come to work in jeans, T shirts or anything that is not appropriate for the setting. Female staff should dress more conservatively, after all it's work not a fashion contest
southy
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6:00pm Fri 30 Jul 10
Linesman wrote:he never be able to do that lnesman, he dont think enough.
southy wrote:Take no notice Southy.
driverbelcher wrote:no it was just a typo error thats all so dont try to make a big thing out of it.southy wrote:Sir, You clearly advocated the supply of cloths, not clothes.driverbelcher wrote:no i an advocating the supply of clothes free of charge if the council wants to dictate on how people dress. untill they do that then they have no right on how a person dress.southy wrote: well if the council wants to control how they dress, then its up to the council to supply the cloths free off charge.Cloths? Are you advocating loin cloths or something Southy?
He wants to make himself look big by making you look small.
driverbelcher
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6:14pm Fri 30 Jul 10
southy wrote:You make a lot of typographical errors don't you sir?
driverbelcher wrote:no it was just a typo error thats all so dont try to make a big thing out of it.southy wrote:Sir, You clearly advocated the supply of cloths, not clothes.driverbelcher wrote:no i an advocating the supply of clothes free of charge if the council wants to dictate on how people dress. untill they do that then they have no right on how a person dress.southy wrote: well if the council wants to control how they dress, then its up to the council to supply the cloths free off charge.Cloths? Are you advocating loin cloths or something Southy?
RadicalEmu
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6:19pm Fri 30 Jul 10
EM27,
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6:27pm Fri 30 Jul 10
RadicalEmu wrote:It matters about as much as you, so you're right emu, it doesn't matter, it has no significance and brings nothing to any debate.
driverbelcher: Does it matter? No.
cmth40
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6:37pm Fri 30 Jul 10
forest hump
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10:04pm Fri 30 Jul 10
mummsie
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10:41pm Fri 30 Jul 10
frenchvic wrote:Ha ha LOL very good!
mummsie wrote:WRONG. If they ban them they are discriminating against men.
SCC are discriminating against women!
Spot O'Bother
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6:38am Sat 31 Jul 10
Iw61
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6:49am Sat 31 Jul 10
southy
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12:13pm Sat 31 Jul 10
Spot O'Bother wrote:its the keyboard its 12 years old now
Southy you reverted to cloths again.
s/w lady-will (you can't make this stuff up)
Stu J
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10:01pm Sat 31 Jul 10
bemused26
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12:48pm Mon 2 Aug 10
southy wrote:Nice one!
Spot O'Bother wrote:its the keyboard its 12 years old now
Southy you reverted to cloths again.
s/w lady-will (you can't make this stuff up)
RadicalEmu
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5:08pm Mon 2 Aug 10
EM27, wrote:You need a hug...
RadicalEmu wrote:It matters about as much as you, so you're right emu, it doesn't matter, it has no significance and brings nothing to any debate.
driverbelcher: Does it matter? No.
Hey Southy and Linesman, Radical wants to be in your gang, he wants to be your buddy.
Sad pathetic loser, keep out of other peoples on line conversations you muppet
Shoong
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10:27am Wed 4 Aug 10
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mummsie says...
11:57am Fri 30 Jul 10