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Anger at ‘manufactured’ Sainsburys supporters’ group in Bishop's Waltham

Members of BWAV supporting plans for a new Sainsbury’s store in the village Members of BWAV supporting plans for a new Sainsbury’s store in the village

CAMPAIGNERS have accused store bosses of manufacturing a group in support of plans to open a controversial supermarket in a Hampshire village.

Plans to open a Sainsbury’s store in Bishop’s Waltham have been met with widespread opposition by villagers, but now a group of residents have set up their own group in support of the plans.

Calling themselves Bishop’s Waltham Another View (BWAV), the group are supporting a bid by the food giant to open a store on the Abbey Mill site.

But it has been revealed that BWAV was set up with the help of Sainsbury’s marketing company GKA, and now has 44 members on its Facebook page.

The members have also held a meeting with GKA, who put them in touch with each other after they lodged their support for the scheme during the first phase of a public consultation.

Campaigners fighting the proposals have branded it a desperate move.

Tony Kippenberger, chairman of the Bishop’s Waltham Action Group, said: “It’s a very strange development at this stage for Sainsbury’s consultants to try to patch together a supporters group.

BWAG’s development and growth has been entirely organic but this is manufactured. It smacks of desperation.”

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But Peter Watson, 52, chairman of BWAV, said the group was legitimate and all the members shared a common support of the proposals.

Despite their website being partly set up by Sainsbury’s marketing company, the group said they were keeping the supermarket at “arms length” but confirmed GKA had put supporters in touch with each other.

Mr Watson said: “Bishop’s Waltham is a growing town and we believe that the new Sainsbury’s would provide an increased shopping choice, create hundreds of new jobs for local people and attract shoppers from the surrounding area to stay in our town, all while saving millions of road miles every year and an increase in passing trade for the High Street.”

Both groups are now asking for a show of support at a parish council meeting in the town’s Jubilee Hall tomorrow night to discuss the application.

A spokesman for Sainsbury’s said: “We’re pleased that a group has formed to back our proposals which will help to give a more balanced view of local feeling throughout the planning process.”

The news comes as Meon Valley MP George Hollingbery objected to plans for the supermarket.

He said: “ I have always said that if there is a risk of harm to the town centre and its wide range of shops, then I would object.”

As reported in the Daily Echo, more than 100 members of BWAG, who oppose the opening of the 35,000 sq ft store, handed in a 4,500- signature petition to council bosses in Winchester on July 31.

Anyone interested in joining the BWAV group should contact 01489 896899 or email pmfwatson@talktalk.net.

• To join the BWAG visit bwactiongroup.org.uk or email info@bwactiongroup.org.uk.

Comments(14)

Fur Q says...
2:10pm Wed 11 Aug 10

sour grapes

believe it or not, some people want Sainsbury in BW

ju_ju68 says...
5:01pm Wed 11 Aug 10

My parents live in Bishops waltham and they want the store, at present to get good value shopping they have to go as far a hedge end, as it is far to expensive to shop in Bishops waltham's so called supermarkets( budgens is more like a good sized tesco local!) and the co-op is no better. People who object don't seem to realise, not everyone is well off enough to have the luxury of shopping in the local bakers, butcher and fish mongers. With a growing population, Bishops Waltham will have to, at some point, have a supermarket, and you may as well have one that is offering you a Dr's surgery.

bw-res says...
7:06pm Wed 11 Aug 10

"They have to go as far as Hedge End", so thats about 4 miles then...not really that far. The objections to the store are not just about shopping, they are also about the increase in traffic and accompanying increase in pollution and noise, not to mention the danger of crossing the access road, which I have to every day when I walk my son to school. I am dreading the day when I have to do that while trying to avoid the delivery lorries - and before anyone says it - there is NO alternative route - except using my car - more traffic, less exercise. It is already difficult to cross the main road and now it will be more so. The increase in traffic will affect everyone in the village. Can I also point out that the local shops are actually not more expensive than supermarkets - in fact the local butchers, Grovers, is actually CHEAPER than Tescos and sainsburys, not an assumption but a fact. People who use the price of local shops as an argument for pro-sainsburys should probably take a wander down the High Street and actually use them - before its too late!!! We moved here for the community, village based life we lead, we are fighting to keep it. Life is not just about shopping, if it is Hedge End has an abundance of housing...

Linesman says...
7:39pm Wed 11 Aug 10

bw-res wrote:
"They have to go as far as Hedge End", so thats about 4 miles then...not really that far. The objections to the store are not just about shopping, they are also about the increase in traffic and accompanying increase in pollution and noise, not to mention the danger of crossing the access road, which I have to every day when I walk my son to school. I am dreading the day when I have to do that while trying to avoid the delivery lorries - and before anyone says it - there is NO alternative route - except using my car - more traffic, less exercise. It is already difficult to cross the main road and now it will be more so. The increase in traffic will affect everyone in the village. Can I also point out that the local shops are actually not more expensive than supermarkets - in fact the local butchers, Grovers, is actually CHEAPER than Tescos and sainsburys, not an assumption but a fact. People who use the price of local shops as an argument for pro-sainsburys should probably take a wander down the High Street and actually use them - before its too late!!! We moved here for the community, village based life we lead, we are fighting to keep it. Life is not just about shopping, if it is Hedge End has an abundance of housing...
I bet that if the dustbins of you and your fellow protesters were checked, it would be discovered that the majority shop at supermarkets and not the local shops.

pmfwatson says...
8:00pm Wed 11 Aug 10

Just look at BWAV (Bishops Waltham - Another View) on facebook to see that in just over a week it now has over 80 members, and is steadily growing, despite the unfair and biased press that it seems to be getting in favour of BWAG.
Come on Daily Echo how about a truly balanced view to represent the positives of this project? You've so far over the last year or so been reporting all the negative views, isn't it time for another view?
The Bishops Waltham community is starting to realize that this very important decision should not just be a decision for the local food retail outlets in the town, it should be in the interest of the people that actually shop there, and live in the surrounding area.
If the shop keepers don't want further competition, then why does the town regularly invite the French and Farmers markets to the town? Oh! That's right, they do actually want to attract people from outside the area to shop there!
When will the local doctors surgery fall to pieces? It was (25 years ago)designed to cater for 8000 patients, and now caters for some 12,000. No wonder the doctors approached Sainsbury's, do you really think the NHS has funds to build a new surgery? Come on Bishops Waltham. Say "YES" To Sainsburys, and "YES to a new Surgery!

bw-res says...
8:02pm Wed 11 Aug 10

Feel free to come and look Linesman!! Of course we use other supermarkets, we drive to them, but we lALSO use the butcher, the baker, the greengrocer, the card shop, the newsagent...we don't exist just in the village!!! And I repeat, this is not just about the store, it is about traffic, pollution, changing how we life - and yes we do take part in the community, if we didn't, I wouldn't be on here!! Maybe you should come and visit the village before joining the argument.

bw-res says...
8:02pm Wed 11 Aug 10

Feel free to come and look Linesman!! Of course we use other supermarkets, we drive to them, but we lALSO use the butcher, the baker, the greengrocer, the card shop, the newsagent...we don't exist just in the village!!! And I repeat, this is not just about the store, it is about traffic, pollution, changing how we life - and yes we do take part in the community, if we didn't, I wouldn't be on here!! Maybe you should come and visit the village before joining the argument.

pmfwatson says...
8:16pm Wed 11 Aug 10

bw-res wrote:
Feel free to come and look Linesman!! Of course we use other supermarkets, we drive to them, but we lALSO use the butcher, the baker, the greengrocer, the card shop, the newsagent...we don't exist just in the village!!! And I repeat, this is not just about the store, it is about traffic, pollution, changing how we life - and yes we do take part in the community, if we didn't, I wouldn't be on here!! Maybe you should come and visit the village before joining the argument.
I personally have supported the town, and I will continue to do so. I'll personally save at least 500 miles driving each year, and I'm just one weekly shop at Fareham.
A few extra lorries are not going to damage the environment, but 70 new homes with more that one car, for each home, entering and leaving the town each day will, won't it? Heaven forbid an other alternative of another industrial estate. How many lorries will that bring to the town?
English Heritage would have every right to object to an eye sore like the town already has not far away from the proposed site!

clausentum says...
9:07pm Wed 11 Aug 10

Suggesting checking everyone's dustbins?

How weird is that??

How unreal is that??

Rather anal, don't you think??

Condor Man says...
9:29pm Wed 11 Aug 10

Residents in Bishops Waltham and Lymington seem to like opposing things that will benefit those that don't have a lot of money. I can't wait for the Sainsburys to open in Portswood as Waitrose it too expensive and Iceland is rubbish. There again, I couldn't afford to live in BW, maybe if I could I'd have a different opinion

clausentum says...
9:35pm Wed 11 Aug 10

Condor Man wrote:
Residents in Bishops Waltham and Lymington seem to like opposing things that will benefit those that don't have a lot of money. I can't wait for the Sainsburys to open in Portswood as Waitrose it too expensive and Iceland is rubbish. There again, I couldn't afford to live in BW, maybe if I could I'd have a different opinion
Anyone living within a five minute car ride of a Sainsbury's is a lucky shopper. any resident living within reasonable walking distance of a Sainsburys is even luckier. The range and quality and price of their stuff beats any other grocery retailer in sight.

bw-res says...
9:42pm Wed 11 Aug 10

Why does everyone assume that all BW residents are well off??? There is a huge range of income levels and house prices here!! We are definitely not well off, we do not have a large house. Are those people who hold that view maybe a little jealous of what they perceive BW to be??? When we moved here we first thought we couldn't afford it but wanted good schools and a village community and eventually down sized to get it. Our choice, one we were happy to make but don't ever assume that we are all rich people, or even that the majority of BW residents are, who can afford whatever we want because we aren't.

shopping says...
9:52pm Wed 11 Aug 10

Quite right bw-res. We have a very average income and no fancy house or fancy cars but we do appreciate living in a lovely place like BW without great big supermarkets to spoil the environment. We use the local stores such as the butchers and if you take the time to check out the prices it is good value and quality. Those in favour of a money grabbing sainsbury's should think about the other people in the community who are employed here already and all the suppliers who would suffer if Sainsbury's comes here. Sainsbury's is just not needed.

Martin Orford says...
9:23am Sun 15 Aug 10

So what if Sainsbury's had a hand in setting up a support group? The opposing BWAG was set up by the local traders who can hardly cry foul considering they've done exactly the same thing.

Using the local shops is all very well if you can afford 75p for 2 bananas and not expect much change from 3 quid for 5 rashers of bacon, but for those of us on low incomes, Sainsbury's can't come quickly enough.

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