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Fluoride plans for Southampton could be scrapped


PLANS to fluoridate Hampshire’s water could be axed as health chiefs lose powers to approve the controversial scheme.

The Government has revealed councils are to be given responsibility for fluoridation as part of a shake-up of the NHS that will see strategic health authorities (SHAs) axed.

Every local authority in the area affected – covering parts of Southampton, Eastleigh, Totton, Netley and Rownhams – has already said it should not go ahead.

And after the controversy over the Southampton scheme, the Department of Health (DH) will also examine if the law needs to be changed to ensure people have more of a say on any similar proposals.

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Pressure is now mounting on South Central Strategic Health Authority to scrap its plans, and abandon its expensive defence of a High Court legal challenge over the way the project was approved.

Chairman of Hampshire Against Fluoridation, Stephen Peckham told the Daily Echo he believes there is now no future for the Southampton scheme, which has already been on hold since last June until the outcome of the judicial review.

He said: “With SHAs being abolished by April 2012 this is just becoming an absolute nonsense.

“We want to know how they can justify this.

“It seems totally crazy they’re continuing with the scheme and spending £400,000 fighting the judicial review.”

In a letter to campaigners, the DH revealed that, by scrapping SHAs, councils would take responsibility for public health measures, including fluoridation.

The letter said: “This will ensure that there is a democratic basis for decisions on fluoridation.

“In drawing up the legislation that will be required for the new arrangements, the DH will be giving further consideration as to how more account can be taken locally of the views of the people who would be affected by any proposals for a new fluoridation scheme.”

During the consultation, in which more than 10,000 people had their say on the plans, 72 per cent of respondents said they opposed fluoridation.

Hampshire county, Eastleigh and Fareham borough and New Forest and Test Valley district councils all passed motions saying they also disagreed with adding the chemical to tap water supplies.

Southampton City Council voted in favour of the plans, but councillors have since called for a binding referendum to be held before fluoride could be added to the water.

City Council leader, Royston Smith said the Government’s announcement could now spark a public vote.

“I have consistently supported the proposal to hold a referendum to ensure that the majority of the population can decide for themselves.

“In light of the Secretary of State’s letter I will be investigating how a vote could be held in the future – perhaps to coincide with a local election.”

The SHA has consistently argued it believes fluoridation will improve dental health, and that it met or exceeded all its legal requirements during the public consultation.

A spokesman said: “The SHA is fully aware of the DH’s plans for the future, however the SHA still has the responsibility to promote good public health in the region and therefore our position on fluoridation remains unchanged.”


Comments(18)

Condor Man says...
12:08pm Tue 24 Aug 10

a victory for common sense

Iw61 says...
12:59pm Tue 24 Aug 10

I was hoping to save on toothpaste!!

Jasper7 says...
2:02pm Tue 24 Aug 10

Condor Man wrote:
a victory for common sense
On an earlier post you stated that you have a full set of falsers.
Why therefore does this involve you?

Spot O'Bother says...
2:02pm Tue 24 Aug 10

Can't say I'm particularly bothered either way. I suppose if they introduced it to our water we would end up paying more than we are now. OK, probably slightly happier that we didn't get it.

Are they scrapping the Health Authorities now?

Atpost says...
2:04pm Tue 24 Aug 10

Jasper7 wrote:
Condor Man wrote: a victory for common sense
On an earlier post you stated that you have a full set of falsers. Why therefore does this involve you?
Maybe he would have benefited from a LACK of common sense in hs younger years?

Lone Ranger says...
2:24pm Tue 24 Aug 10

Atpost wrote:
Jasper7 wrote:
Condor Man wrote: a victory for common sense
On an earlier post you stated that you have a full set of falsers. Why therefore does this involve you?
Maybe he would have benefited from a LACK of common sense in hs younger years?
He's the only person i know who has had a wisdom tooth PUT IN !!

MartinWellbourne says...
2:32pm Tue 24 Aug 10

Lone Ranger wrote:
Atpost wrote:
Jasper7 wrote:
Condor Man wrote: a victory for common sense
On an earlier post you stated that you have a full set of falsers. Why therefore does this involve you?
Maybe he would have benefited from a LACK of common sense in hs younger years?
He's the only person i know who has had a wisdom tooth PUT IN !!
Post of the day!

Nod says...
3:17pm Tue 24 Aug 10

Jasper7 wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
a victory for common sense
On an earlier post you stated that you have a full set of falsers.
Why therefore does this involve you?
because its in the water, and as far as I'm aware everyone comes in contact with tap water every now and again, if they have teeth or not...

TheLandlord says...
3:37pm Tue 24 Aug 10

Flip Flop, Flip Flop

Fred Harris – BBC Micro Expert says...
5:42pm Tue 24 Aug 10

Is this article linked to the Gum Buster story in anyway?

da boss says...
6:00pm Tue 24 Aug 10

and be aware the winter flu vaccine will have the swine flu component added this winter ,say NO to them every time.

Rob444 says...
7:45pm Tue 24 Aug 10

Jasper7 wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
a victory for common sense
On an earlier post you stated that you have a full set of falsers.
Why therefore does this involve you?
I would have thought that the answer to this was clear. If the water supply is dosed with this chemical, he, and everyone else in the area, will be drinking it. Bottled water is not a practical solution.

A lack of teeth will not prevent people from drinking it. This is the basis of the whole argument against fluoridation, we will not have a choice in avoiding the many ill effects that this chemical can cause.

If our tap water stays pure, then those who wish to take fluoride can get fluoride tablets. It would be the individuals' decision, not some board of jumped-up little hitlers.

OSPREYSAINT says...
12:10am Wed 25 Aug 10

Wish they had put it in earlier, I have only got one decent tooth left, I call it Juanita. All through lack of fluoride in the water and the fact I haven't been to a dentist since I was traumatised in 1953 by a geriatric demented butcher who was doing the school dentistry rounds!

Poppy22 says...
1:33am Wed 25 Aug 10

It's what fluoride does to the rest of the body that's the problem. If people are using fluoride toothpaste (and, if using mouthwash, then fluoride versions of that too) I don't see the need for it in water. It's supposed to be being done for children's tooth health but what child drinks water from the tap, even with squash, these days? A very low percentage I should think as most I see are drinking plastic bottles or cans of drink from supermarkets. And if fluoride does go into water, the children drinking it will probably be suing whoever in years to come for the damage it's done to the rest of their bodies! Perhaps there should be some sort of fluoride additive switch/machine in houses so that people can choose whether or not their water contains fluoride. A future invention on Dragons Den??!!

southy says...
11:18am Wed 25 Aug 10

i see smith is being economical with the truth again.

headworm says...
6:30pm Wed 25 Aug 10

There's a good reason we spit out toothpaste rather than swallow it is their not?

Anyway, if there's profit in fluridation for the council there will be an even bigger fight on our hands to stop it now. A referendum although much welcome will be pointless if nobody bothers to go and vote and this country is so full of apathetic idiots the chances are that most people who don't want it won't bother turning up on the day. Sad.

I read that Stalin used sodium chloride so he could cut down on the number of prison guards required at his prison camps. Don't know how true that is but I do know that forced medication is a breach of my human rights so whether this affects you or not, regardless of whether fluoride is bad or good for your teeth, adding it to the water supply is in my eyes completely unlawful and for Southern Water to say they are against it but would be bound by statute law to add it if they are told to... Complete BS, if the law is wrong, nobody is obliged to obey it and that includes Southern Water, they need to get a spine as they will not be getting a penny from me if they add it to my water and if it's the council that introduce it, referednum or otherwise, they will be getting a deduction from my council tax to cover the cost of using bottled water.

Calli says...
12:32am Thu 26 Aug 10

So. all of you out there make sure you attend the public meeting on Saturday 11th September 2010 at James Mathews building (the old plummers store next to Blackwells book shop) between 2pm and 4pm. Free admission and you will be able to hear Professor Paul Connett - world renowned expert on the effects of fluoride. Tell anyone you know about it.

najskapati says...
2:39am Mon 30 Aug 10

This type of PR-based news item is used like this: by motivating concern that you will "miss out" on fluoride so that its numerically few supporters will soldier on.

Secondly to undermine the opposition by convincing them they have won, while installation of the technical means of adding fluoride to them quietly continues.

As for the shifting of responsibilities, it was ever thus, and that suits those responsible just fine, by ensuring that they never will be. See http://www.nfl.si/ne
w_doctors.htm


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