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POLICE were called out as campaigners staged a demonstration over an “inadequate” safety plan for nuclear submarines visiting Southampton.

Members of the Solent Coalition Against Nuclear Ships (SCANS) donned anti-radiation suits and wore gags in protest at the refusal to allow them to present a critical report to a public meeting of emergency planners.

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A report by independent nuclear expert John Large warned safety assessments were “inadequate” to host a nuclear powered submarine after councillors agreed to adopt one of the Royal Navy’s new hunter killer subs, HMS Artful.

SCANS chairman David Hoadley said the safety arrangements for a radiation leak were “not fit for purpose” and a risk to residents.

But council leader Royston Smith insisted the city was “well prepared for major emergencies, including nuclear leaks”.

He said: “Let’s be clear – the chance of a nuclear leak in a submarine happening is around once in every 20,000 years. And if that happens it is highly likely that any leak would be contained in the submarine. “ He added: “Residents should not in any way be concerned that we are not well prepared to protect them in an emergency.”

Police were called out to make sure the demonstration outside St Mary’s Stadium went off peacefully. No arrests were made.

Comments(19)

southy says...
11:46am Wed 3 Nov 10

Wonder if Smithy had some thing to do with blocking freedom of speech.
S.C.A.N.S should be allowed to have the right to put forward there argument and there case, has it is for the council to put there case forward weather it be right or wrong and to give S.C.A.N.S answers.
Capitalist Nazi Germany comes to mind, has they done the same sort of thing.

Spot O'Bother says...
11:57am Wed 3 Nov 10

'Independent Nuclear Expert'! Sounds more like a snake oil salesman to me.

Southy I think you will find that the Nazis were National Socialists not capitalists. So Loony Lefties rather than Right Wing Nut jobs. Please don't respond. It's difficult reading your drivel.

freefinker says...
12:11pm Wed 3 Nov 10

Spot O'Bother wrote:
'Independent Nuclear Expert'! Sounds more like a snake oil salesman to me.

Southy I think you will find that the Nazis were National Socialists not capitalists. So Loony Lefties rather than Right Wing Nut jobs. Please don't respond. It's difficult reading your drivel.
.. "snake oil salesman"?
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Suggest you do a google search before posting next time.
You will then find: -
"Large led the nuclear risk assessment team for the raising of the damaged Russian nuclear submarine Kursk", etc.
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Knows a lot more about this issue than both you and I - and certainly more than Royston Smith. I know who I'd rather believe.

Spot O'Bother says...
12:46pm Wed 3 Nov 10

Hmmm....Google then should provide some sort of qualifications that he has & more importantly experience. Please post the links.

jimbobbo says...
1:12pm Wed 3 Nov 10

They all must have very flexible employers to get the time off work for this...

southy says...
2:00pm Wed 3 Nov 10

Spot O'Bother wrote:
'Independent Nuclear Expert'! Sounds more like a snake oil salesman to me.

Southy I think you will find that the Nazis were National Socialists not capitalists. So Loony Lefties rather than Right Wing Nut jobs. Please don't respond. It's difficult reading your drivel.
if you know any thing about politics then you would know that nationalism and socialism do not go together. there is no such thing has national socialist, the nazi party was a extreme right-wing party aka capitalism at its worse, and used the word socialist to gain power off the working man,s back. one of the first action hitler ordered was the arrest of communist party members, and socialist party members, and union leaders, and all other left-wing party's and if they was not murdered they was sent to the concentration work camps.
now do this sound like a socialist party to do away with the very same people that put you into power in the first place, no it don,t, you do away with those that put you into power and to keep you there, will mean the lost of power at the next election. so its right-wing nut jobs.
do you know your history if you do then you will know the right wing nazi lot went after the socialist and blame the jews and communist for germany problems, and your communist are your far left wing socialist. now how do that add up, it dont the german nationalist used the word socialist in there party name has a con-job to make the ordinary people ( the working class ) give them the support to get into power, hilter got to power on a lie, political false propaganda.

RadicalEmu says...
2:01pm Wed 3 Nov 10

Spot O'Bother wrote:
'Independent Nuclear Expert'! Sounds more like a snake oil salesman to me.

Southy I think you will find that the Nazis were National Socialists not capitalists. So Loony Lefties rather than Right Wing Nut jobs. Please don't respond. It's difficult reading your drivel.
I think you'll find that National Socialists are, generally speaking, right-wing.
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...Just to clarify a well-known fact.

Linesman says...
3:15pm Wed 3 Nov 10

southy wrote:
Spot O'Bother wrote: 'Independent Nuclear Expert'! Sounds more like a snake oil salesman to me. Southy I think you will find that the Nazis were National Socialists not capitalists. So Loony Lefties rather than Right Wing Nut jobs. Please don't respond. It's difficult reading your drivel.
if you know any thing about politics then you would know that nationalism and socialism do not go together. there is no such thing has national socialist, the nazi party was a extreme right-wing party aka capitalism at its worse, and used the word socialist to gain power off the working man,s back. one of the first action hitler ordered was the arrest of communist party members, and socialist party members, and union leaders, and all other left-wing party's and if they was not murdered they was sent to the concentration work camps. now do this sound like a socialist party to do away with the very same people that put you into power in the first place, no it don,t, you do away with those that put you into power and to keep you there, will mean the lost of power at the next election. so its right-wing nut jobs. do you know your history if you do then you will know the right wing nazi lot went after the socialist and blame the jews and communist for germany problems, and your communist are your far left wing socialist. now how do that add up, it dont the german nationalist used the word socialist in there party name has a con-job to make the ordinary people ( the working class ) give them the support to get into power, hilter got to power on a lie, political false propaganda.
Not quite correct this time Southy.

Uncle Joe Stalin and Hitler were on the same side at the start of the war.
When that came to an end, then hitler rounded up the commies.

southy says...
3:25pm Wed 3 Nov 10

Linesman wrote:
southy wrote:
Spot O'Bother wrote: 'Independent Nuclear Expert'! Sounds more like a snake oil salesman to me. Southy I think you will find that the Nazis were National Socialists not capitalists. So Loony Lefties rather than Right Wing Nut jobs. Please don't respond. It's difficult reading your drivel.
if you know any thing about politics then you would know that nationalism and socialism do not go together. there is no such thing has national socialist, the nazi party was a extreme right-wing party aka capitalism at its worse, and used the word socialist to gain power off the working man,s back. one of the first action hitler ordered was the arrest of communist party members, and socialist party members, and union leaders, and all other left-wing party's and if they was not murdered they was sent to the concentration work camps. now do this sound like a socialist party to do away with the very same people that put you into power in the first place, no it don,t, you do away with those that put you into power and to keep you there, will mean the lost of power at the next election. so its right-wing nut jobs. do you know your history if you do then you will know the right wing nazi lot went after the socialist and blame the jews and communist for germany problems, and your communist are your far left wing socialist. now how do that add up, it dont the german nationalist used the word socialist in there party name has a con-job to make the ordinary people ( the working class ) give them the support to get into power, hilter got to power on a lie, political false propaganda.
Not quite correct this time Southy.

Uncle Joe Stalin and Hitler were on the same side at the start of the war.
When that came to an end, then hitler rounded up the commies.
the hitler and stalin pack was after the round up of all those on the left in germany, and stalin look at the anti-socialist things he done, like sending back jews that escape to russia and swapping polish prisoners germany got all low ranking men who was more likely to be socialist, and russia got all the high ranking officers, and look what happened with them, very anti-socialist.
hitler had stated on the left before he had stated the round up of the jews

trickyrambler says...
3:39pm Wed 3 Nov 10

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twovests says...
4:59pm Wed 3 Nov 10

southy wrote:
Linesman wrote:
southy wrote:
Spot O'Bother wrote: 'Independent Nuclear Expert'! Sounds more like a snake oil salesman to me. Southy I think you will find that the Nazis were National Socialists not capitalists. So Loony Lefties rather than Right Wing Nut jobs. Please don't respond. It's difficult reading your drivel.
if you know any thing about politics then you would know that nationalism and socialism do not go together. there is no such thing has national socialist, the nazi party was a extreme right-wing party aka capitalism at its worse, and used the word socialist to gain power off the working man,s back. one of the first action hitler ordered was the arrest of communist party members, and socialist party members, and union leaders, and all other left-wing party's and if they was not murdered they was sent to the concentration work camps. now do this sound like a socialist party to do away with the very same people that put you into power in the first place, no it don,t, you do away with those that put you into power and to keep you there, will mean the lost of power at the next election. so its right-wing nut jobs. do you know your history if you do then you will know the right wing nazi lot went after the socialist and blame the jews and communist for germany problems, and your communist are your far left wing socialist. now how do that add up, it dont the german nationalist used the word socialist in there party name has a con-job to make the ordinary people ( the working class ) give them the support to get into power, hilter got to power on a lie, political false propaganda.
Not quite correct this time Southy. Uncle Joe Stalin and Hitler were on the same side at the start of the war. When that came to an end, then hitler rounded up the commies.
the hitler and stalin pack was after the round up of all those on the left in germany, and stalin look at the anti-socialist things he done, like sending back jews that escape to russia and swapping polish prisoners germany got all low ranking men who was more likely to be socialist, and russia got all the high ranking officers, and look what happened with them, very anti-socialist. hitler had stated on the left before he had stated the round up of the jews
Is there any chance of you going back to school? You really need to learn how to string a sentence together!

Condor Man says...
5:08pm Wed 3 Nov 10

surely these wasters must have more constructive things to do with their time or are they the usual bunch of 'trust fund' kids who dominate the Green Agenda- upper middle class public school types like Jonathan Porritt and Caroline Lucas.

freefinker says...
5:26pm Wed 3 Nov 10

Condor Man wrote:
surely these wasters must have more constructive things to do with their time or are they the usual bunch of 'trust fund' kids who dominate the Green Agenda- upper middle class public school types like Jonathan Porritt and Caroline Lucas.
.. is that aimed at southy and Linesman or the protesters?
.
Either way, you're wrong again, me finks

Condor Man says...
6:13pm Wed 3 Nov 10

freefinker wrote:
Condor Man wrote: surely these wasters must have more constructive things to do with their time or are they the usual bunch of 'trust fund' kids who dominate the Green Agenda- upper middle class public school types like Jonathan Porritt and Caroline Lucas.
.. is that aimed at southy and Linesman or the protesters? . Either way, you're wrong again, me finks
Are you telling me that the people dominating the green agenda aren't stuck up toffs?

freefinker says...
6:33pm Wed 3 Nov 10

Condor Man wrote:
freefinker wrote:
Condor Man wrote: surely these wasters must have more constructive things to do with their time or are they the usual bunch of 'trust fund' kids who dominate the Green Agenda- upper middle class public school types like Jonathan Porritt and Caroline Lucas.
.. is that aimed at southy and Linesman or the protesters? . Either way, you're wrong again, me finks
Are you telling me that the people dominating the green agenda aren't stuck up toffs?
There’s none more sanctimonious than a working class Tory.
If you’re looking “for stuck up toffs” in society look no further than the current Cabinet.
You won’t find many in the environmental movement.

southy says...
7:34pm Wed 3 Nov 10

freefinker wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
freefinker wrote:
Condor Man wrote: surely these wasters must have more constructive things to do with their time or are they the usual bunch of 'trust fund' kids who dominate the Green Agenda- upper middle class public school types like Jonathan Porritt and Caroline Lucas.
.. is that aimed at southy and Linesman or the protesters? . Either way, you're wrong again, me finks
Are you telling me that the people dominating the green agenda aren't stuck up toffs?
There’s none more sanctimonious than a working class Tory.
If you’re looking “for stuck up toffs” in society look no further than the current Cabinet.
You won’t find many in the environmental movement.
they are made up from all walks of life. but there is a high number of yachties with in that group

stay local says...
11:50pm Wed 3 Nov 10

southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
freefinker wrote:
Condor Man wrote: surely these wasters must have more constructive things to do with their time or are they the usual bunch of 'trust fund' kids who dominate the Green Agenda- upper middle class public school types like Jonathan Porritt and Caroline Lucas.
.. is that aimed at southy and Linesman or the protesters? . Either way, you're wrong again, me finks
Are you telling me that the people dominating the green agenda aren't stuck up toffs?
There’s none more sanctimonious than a working class Tory. If you’re looking “for stuck up toffs” in society look no further than the current Cabinet. You won’t find many in the environmental movement.
they are made up from all walks of life. but there is a high number of yachties with in that group
Kindly cite your evidence.
Which means prove your comment or it is just another of your endless made up bits of misinformation from the Southy ministry of truth.
Nor seek shelter in the refuge of an idiot by claiming do your own research, you have made the claim now prove it, or perhaps like Charles the first you have the divine right of kings and you word has to be the truth no matter what you say.

southy says...
12:24am Thu 4 Nov 10

stay local wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
freefinker wrote:
Condor Man wrote: surely these wasters must have more constructive things to do with their time or are they the usual bunch of 'trust fund' kids who dominate the Green Agenda- upper middle class public school types like Jonathan Porritt and Caroline Lucas.
.. is that aimed at southy and Linesman or the protesters? . Either way, you're wrong again, me finks
Are you telling me that the people dominating the green agenda aren't stuck up toffs?
There’s none more sanctimonious than a working class Tory. If you’re looking “for stuck up toffs” in society look no further than the current Cabinet. You won’t find many in the environmental movement.
they are made up from all walks of life. but there is a high number of yachties with in that group
Kindly cite your evidence.
Which means prove your comment or it is just another of your endless made up bits of misinformation from the Southy ministry of truth.
Nor seek shelter in the refuge of an idiot by claiming do your own research, you have made the claim now prove it, or perhaps like Charles the first you have the divine right of kings and you word has to be the truth no matter what you say.
do your own research you lazy so and so.
start with there members in the scans that belong to ealing yacht club and marchwood yacht club, people that i know, and if you got out and about you might get to know people that belong to such groups.
was it you who said they could not find any thing about scans on line, when there is loads of info on line about them.
and like i said scans is made up from people from all walks of life and they are a lot bigger than you think. and most have one thing in common they use the solent for activity's of some sort.

stay local says...
4:34am Fri 5 Nov 10

southy wrote:
stay local wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
freefinker wrote:
Condor Man wrote: surely these wasters must have more constructive things to do with their time or are they the usual bunch of 'trust fund' kids who dominate the Green Agenda- upper middle class public school types like Jonathan Porritt and Caroline Lucas.
.. is that aimed at southy and Linesman or the protesters? . Either way, you're wrong again, me finks
Are you telling me that the people dominating the green agenda aren't stuck up toffs?
There’s none more sanctimonious than a working class Tory. If you’re looking “for stuck up toffs” in society look no further than the current Cabinet. You won’t find many in the environmental movement.
they are made up from all walks of life. but there is a high number of yachties with in that group
Kindly cite your evidence. Which means prove your comment or it is just another of your endless made up bits of misinformation from the Southy ministry of truth. Nor seek shelter in the refuge of an idiot by claiming do your own research, you have made the claim now prove it, or perhaps like Charles the first you have the divine right of kings and you word has to be the truth no matter what you say.
do your own research you lazy so and so. start with there members in the scans that belong to ealing yacht club and marchwood yacht club, people that i know, and if you got out and about you might get to know people that belong to such groups. was it you who said they could not find any thing about scans on line, when there is loads of info on line about them. and like i said scans is made up from people from all walks of life and they are a lot bigger than you think. and most have one thing in common they use the solent for activity's of some sort.
Dear Southy your ignorance just baffles me, you frequently ask people to prove a negative. You claim something (the hidden ice rink, the SAS air rifles, the membership of SCANS) but when people ask you to prove you claim it is met with a cry of’ do your own research’ when it is you who are claiming to have done it. The request was to share your knowledge/informatio
n, which you continually fail to do.

It therefore appears that you do not know what you are talking about, that you make up claims to bolster your stories and when challenged cannot give a shred of evidence to back up your story.

Is this long running style of making up information part of the requirements for membership of the coalitions that you support? Are you an active member of the TUSC if so do they know the level of porkies you are regularly trotting out, or is it all forgiven because it must have been Margret Thatcher’s fault?

In plain English Southy you are a liar who makes up stories and when challenged hides in a mist of secrecy.


Now a question. Since SCANS the Solent coalition against nuclear ships is concerned about the risk of an accident, would they support a nuclear ship visiting if it satisfied the reports of John Large or is their agenda that there should be no nuclear ship what ever should be allowed in the Solent?

If they feel the risks of nuclear material is too great to bear should all sources of nuclear material be removed from the city?

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