Climate change agreement ‘back on track’ (From Daily Echo)

I wonder why they don't call it global warming anymore?

Nod wrote:
I wonder why they don't call it global warming anymore?

because the globe is not warming anymore , the trend is flat. So in desperation it was re-branded "climate change".
Even the gullible media are now smelling a rat , I think its only a matter of time before the scam is rumbled.

Climate change is real and it's happening now... it's called Autumn?

the talks are such a success that the world will not share the green technologies with india and china but are demanding that they cut down there CO2 emissions. that,s double meaning talk.
and if the world really wanted to cut down CO2 emissions then they would share/give the technologies to countries like india and china to bring them up to-date.
the real truth is that they don't want poorer other countries having a good or better economies and its all about the rich counties staying in control of the economy.

5000 years ago it was 3C warmer than it is now, and there was no ice on the polar caps, even in roman britain it was 1C warmer it is now, and at the end of the roman britain the northern hemishpere temp drop very fast and sent it into what was called the mini ice age for 500 years.

southy wrote:
the talks are such a success that the world will not share the green technologies with india and china but are demanding that they cut down there CO2 emissions. that,s double meaning talk.
and if the world really wanted to cut down CO2 emissions then they would share/give the technologies to countries like india and china to bring them up to-date.
the real truth is that they don't want poorer other countries having a good or better economies and its all about the rich counties staying in control of the economy.

5000 years ago it was 3C warmer than it is now, and there was no ice on the polar caps, even in roman britain it was 1C warmer it is now, and at the end of the roman britain the northern hemishpere temp drop very fast and sent it into what was called the mini ice age for 500 years.

Yet another conspiracy theory.

Are you pulling them out of a hat?

Have you invented a random-conspiracy-th
eory computer program?

Global Warming or Climate change its still the biggest con on the british public since Gordon Brown was made PM without a vote from the electorate!
How much longer are we to be taxed on the basis of discredited theories, how much longer are we to pay for politicians trips to holiday resorts to talk about a load of nonsense?
Even the green party admitted they had got it wrong on this matter.
Discuss.

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:
the talks are such a success that the world will not share the green technologies with india and china but are demanding that they cut down there CO2 emissions. that,s double meaning talk.
and if the world really wanted to cut down CO2 emissions then they would share/give the technologies to countries like india and china to bring them up to-date.
the real truth is that they don't want poorer other countries having a good or better economies and its all about the rich counties staying in control of the economy.

5000 years ago it was 3C warmer than it is now, and there was no ice on the polar caps, even in roman britain it was 1C warmer it is now, and at the end of the roman britain the northern hemishpere temp drop very fast and sent it into what was called the mini ice age for 500 years.

Yet another conspiracy theory.

Are you pulling them out of a hat?

Have you invented a random-conspiracy-th

eory computer program?

no conspiracy theory just pain old facts, i leave conspiracy theory,s to you, you seem so good at it.

Ah, climate change! I'm glad someone brought the weather up again!

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:
the talks are such a success that the world will not share the green technologies with india and china but are demanding that they cut down there CO2 emissions. that,s double meaning talk.
and if the world really wanted to cut down CO2 emissions then they would share/give the technologies to countries like india and china to bring them up to-date.
the real truth is that they don't want poorer other countries having a good or better economies and its all about the rich counties staying in control of the economy.

5000 years ago it was 3C warmer than it is now, and there was no ice on the polar caps, even in roman britain it was 1C warmer it is now, and at the end of the roman britain the northern hemishpere temp drop very fast and sent it into what was called the mini ice age for 500 years.

Yet another conspiracy theory.

Are you pulling them out of a hat?

Have you invented a random-conspiracy-th


eory computer program?

no conspiracy theory just pain old facts, i leave conspiracy theory,s to you, you seem so good at it.

Nope, don't believe I'm into conspiracies that much really, I leave that to the nutters.

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:
the talks are such a success that the world will not share the green technologies with india and china but are demanding that they cut down there CO2 emissions. that,s double meaning talk.
and if the world really wanted to cut down CO2 emissions then they would share/give the technologies to countries like india and china to bring them up to-date.
the real truth is that they don't want poorer other countries having a good or better economies and its all about the rich counties staying in control of the economy.

5000 years ago it was 3C warmer than it is now, and there was no ice on the polar caps, even in roman britain it was 1C warmer it is now, and at the end of the roman britain the northern hemishpere temp drop very fast and sent it into what was called the mini ice age for 500 years.

Yet another conspiracy theory.

Are you pulling them out of a hat?

Have you invented a random-conspiracy-th



eory computer program?

no conspiracy theory just pain old facts, i leave conspiracy theory,s to you, you seem so good at it.

Nope, don't believe I'm into conspiracies that much really, I leave that to the nutters.

do you know where skeabrae (Skerrabra) orkney islands is, there is proof there that 5000 years ago indeed it was 3c warmer then, than this warm peak than what we have just gone though.
a southampton professor of natural history and archaeology got involved. when they found store of wheat grains. at an early man settlement near by, that got uncovered by a storm, they carbon dated the wheat whitch put it just over 5000 years ago, took soil core tests and the lake near by they took silt cores test and confirmed it, wheat was growing there 5000 years ago. and for that to happen it had to be warmer 2C warmer at lest than it is now, and not for just a few summers it had to be much longer to get a ready supply of wheat, theres a lot more to it that was just basics

What a bunch of hypocrites. I wonder how big the 'carbon footprint' was for all this lot to travel to Mexico? If they were that serious about the issue, what on earth is wrong with video conferencing? No wonder a lot of people find it hard to believe these morons.

MGRA wrote:

Nod wrote: I wonder why they don't call it global warming anymore?

because the globe is not warming anymore , the trend is flat. So in desperation it was re-branded "climate change". Even the gullible media are now smelling a rat , I think its only a matter of time before the scam is rumbled.

I agree MGRA. Once the lying, cheating media lose interest, all of the suckers who believe what they read will act like the sheep they are and discredit AGW. The science is unproven! Hear the word consensus, then go for your wallet because you are being done like a kipper!

the average household's fuel bill will increase by 500 pounds over the next 10 years to pay for this rubbish

forest hump wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Nod wrote: I wonder why they don't call it global warming anymore?

because the globe is not warming anymore , the trend is flat. So in desperation it was re-branded "climate change". Even the gullible media are now smelling a rat , I think its only a matter of time before the scam is rumbled.

I agree MGRA. Once the lying, cheating media lose interest, all of the suckers who believe what they read will act like the sheep they are and discredit AGW. The science is unproven! Hear the word consensus, then go for your wallet because you are being done like a kipper!

It aint that unproven. Its just not a long term garanteed forcast. There is a lot of proven material from the climate scientists - ozone problems, ice melt and water levels raising around the equatorial regions have already begun. CO2 predictions are pretty accurate too.
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What isnt a sure forecast is how it will affect us here and when. The funny thing is that doing something about the CO2 production and co will actually benefit us, even if it doesnt benefit the climates around the world.
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Your average person like me or you aint going to understand it, and this is perhaps why we should listen to the scientists rather than the press or the politicians.

southy wrote:
the talks are such a success that the world will not share the green technologies with india and china but are demanding that they cut down there CO2 emissions. that,s double meaning talk. and if the world really wanted to cut down CO2 emissions then they would share/give the technologies to countries like india and china to bring them up to-date. the real truth is that they don't want poorer other countries having a good or better economies and its all about the rich counties staying in control of the economy. 5000 years ago it was 3C warmer than it is now, and there was no ice on the polar caps, even in roman britain it was 1C warmer it is now, and at the end of the roman britain the northern hemishpere temp drop very fast and sent it into what was called the mini ice age for 500 years.

Didn't know the Romans had thermometers that read in centigrade.

Bill-B wrote:

southy wrote:
the talks are such a success that the world will not share the green technologies with india and china but are demanding that they cut down there CO2 emissions. that,s double meaning talk. and if the world really wanted to cut down CO2 emissions then they would share/give the technologies to countries like india and china to bring them up to-date. the real truth is that they don't want poorer other countries having a good or better economies and its all about the rich counties staying in control of the economy. 5000 years ago it was 3C warmer than it is now, and there was no ice on the polar caps, even in roman britain it was 1C warmer it is now, and at the end of the roman britain the northern hemishpere temp drop very fast and sent it into what was called the mini ice age for 500 years.

Didn't know the Romans had thermometers that read in centigrade.

you don't need thermometers to know what the temperature was like, you can tell by what plants they introduce. and by the ones that survive the 500 year mini ice age, and by the ones that did not. like they brought olive tree's here, but they all died off at the start of the mini ice age, has did the type of grape vines that they bought here, also died off. plants can tell you a lot off information if you know what your looking at.

Downfader, The science is still unproven. Alarmists are stating that the temperature rise (not since 1998) is due to CO2 levels, but this has never been proven. There could be other reasons, sun spot frequency, El Nino/Nina effects, etc. Until they prove that, there are going to be a lot of deniers.

By the way do you realize water vapour has a greater effect as a green house gas than CO2 & there's a lot more of it.

downfader wrote:

forest hump wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Nod wrote: I wonder why they don't call it global warming anymore?

because the globe is not warming anymore , the trend is flat. So in desperation it was re-branded "climate change". Even the gullible media are now smelling a rat , I think its only a matter of time before the scam is rumbled.

I agree MGRA. Once the lying, cheating media lose interest, all of the suckers who believe what they read will act like the sheep they are and discredit AGW. The science is unproven! Hear the word consensus, then go for your wallet because you are being done like a kipper!

It aint that unproven. Its just not a long term garanteed forcast. There is a lot of proven material from the climate scientists - ozone problems, ice melt and water levels raising around the equatorial regions have already begun. CO2 predictions are pretty accurate too. . What isnt a sure forecast is how it will affect us here and when. The funny thing is that doing something about the CO2 production and co will actually benefit us, even if it doesnt benefit the climates around the world. . Your average person like me or you aint going to understand it, and this is perhaps why we should listen to the scientists rather than the press or the politicians.

I do listen to the scientists and there are many of them out there who do not believe in AGW. Unfortunately, people like Dr Phil Jones and some of his cronies from Penn State Uni do all they can to silence them