Southampton port chiefs set to confirm cruise terminal scheme

An artist impression of how the new terminal will look

An artist impression of how the new terminal will look

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author Exclusive by , Eastleigh Chief Reporter

A FIFTH cruise terminal in Southampton would boost the local economy by £150m a year, the Daily Echo can reveal.

Port bosses, who were today due to confirm the scheme, first revealed by the Daily Echo in July, say it could see 90 extra cruise ships and half a million new passengers coming to the city.

It is also thought the development could create hundreds of new jobs.

Today Associated British Ports (ABP) chiefs Peter Jones and Doug Morrison were due to unveil the plans, worth upwards of £30m, to junior transport minister Mike Penning in Southampton.

Mr Morrison said: “We don’t see business grow and then think we had better build something to deal with it. This is about future growth.

“This will be good for the people who live in South-ampton and the people who come in because of the ships.

“The city is known all over the world for the docks and I think the people of Southampton are and have a right to be proud of it.”

The Daily Echo revealed in July that behind the scenes discussions for the new terminal in Western Docks were under way due to soaring passenger numbers.

This year there will be more than 300 separate calls by cruise ships and this is expected to rise to 360 next year hitting as high as 450 by 2015 when it will be dealing with more so-called mega-cruise ships.

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Passenger numbers have trebled from 500,000 in 2004 to almost 1.5m and this is expected to reach 2m by 2020.

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It will be built on the Fruit Terminal but bosses say as the shipments, predominantly tomatoes, come in during the winter months and the cruise business peaks in summer the two can work side by side.

Council and business bosses have praised the plans.

Southampton City Council leader Royston Smith said: “The docks puts Southampton firmly on the map.

“These plans underscore our position as the cruise capital of northern Europe and puts us right up there as one of the top cities in the country.

“The company wouldn’t be investing these sums of money if they were not confident about the future of the Southampton cruise industry.”

Those sentiments were echoed by Hampshire Chamber of Commerce planning and transport boss Nick Farthing.

He said: “A fifth cruise terminal is most welcome news for the city’s economy.

“The Chamber of Commerce was set up in Southampton some 160 years ago to support the development of the port and today Hampshire Chamber of Commerce recognises ABP’s role and the Port of Southampton as a major driver for the county’s economy.”

Work is expected to start at the end of next year and be completed by 2013.

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11:28am Wed 15 Dec 10

StEmmosfire says...

Peter Jones the Dragon?
Peter Jones the Dragon? StEmmosfire
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12:02pm Wed 15 Dec 10

hulla baloo says...

Maybe they should apply for a grant, and see the response.

Do they mean 90 extra/new ships or another 90 berthings throughout the year?
Maybe they should apply for a grant, and see the response. Do they mean 90 extra/new ships or another 90 berthings throughout the year? hulla baloo
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12:04pm Wed 15 Dec 10

Totton Ric says...

Shame they cant get a Rail link to these new Terminals, it only runs partly into the docks now,use to have 66 miles worth of Track,now under 3 miles worth, sad to think New docks & Old docks had a rail link running past Mayflowewr Park.
Shame they cant get a Rail link to these new Terminals, it only runs partly into the docks now,use to have 66 miles worth of Track,now under 3 miles worth, sad to think New docks & Old docks had a rail link running past Mayflowewr Park. Totton Ric
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1:18pm Wed 15 Dec 10

Elgy says...

Anyone told the Echo the city is called 'Southampton' and not 'South-ampton'?
Anyone told the Echo the city is called 'Southampton' and not 'South-ampton'? Elgy
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2:17pm Wed 15 Dec 10

veracity says...

There are still rail links for cruise ships into the port.
In fact there was a train in for the Cunard ship yesterday and someone I spoke to said there are loads more planned for next yera which will be helpful to reducuce any road congrestion
Appaarently the port have spent a load of money improving the rail connection to the Qe2 terminal
Hullabaloo - what do think would be the hope of Soton getting a grant. Bob Hope or No Hope?
Notice that our friends up in Liverpool have now got grant aid to set up a rival Boat Show.
Best of luck to them bu twhy cant they do things without grant assistance?
Also it will be extra 90 ship calls, not an extra 90 cruise ships calling
Await Southy's normal negative comments on what should be a good news story for the city
There are still rail links for cruise ships into the port. In fact there was a train in for the Cunard ship yesterday and someone I spoke to said there are loads more planned for next yera which will be helpful to reducuce any road congrestion Appaarently the port have spent a load of money improving the rail connection to the Qe2 terminal Hullabaloo - what do think would be the hope of Soton getting a grant. Bob Hope or No Hope? Notice that our friends up in Liverpool have now got grant aid to set up a rival Boat Show. Best of luck to them bu twhy cant they do things without grant assistance? Also it will be extra 90 ship calls, not an extra 90 cruise ships calling Await Southy's normal negative comments on what should be a good news story for the city veracity
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2:18pm Wed 15 Dec 10

Of the Ilk says...

Much speculation here. There may not be any extra ships or passengers, then ABP could turn it into centre for the homeless!
Much speculation here. There may not be any extra ships or passengers, then ABP could turn it into centre for the homeless! Of the Ilk
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3:54pm Wed 15 Dec 10

SpittingFire says...

Elgy wrote:
Anyone told the Echo the city is called 'Southampton' and not 'South-ampton'?
I see these typos alot Elgy, it's probably from when the article goes into print, the word won't fit and the hyphen is breakpoint before it going onto a new line.
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You also see "Pictured, right" and "pictured below" aswell, when there is nothing to see!
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Mr Carr, where is your next single in the city entry? Don't tell me you've given up just 'cause of what I said... I did it for your own good sir, really I did!
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Least it was in your own words. Mr Smith has left me sorely disappointed in his writing due to his chunky cut 'n' paste job (nicked from Melanie Adams) on Paula Poolton's murderer's tribunal today. I'm relying on you to give me something good.... we're all waiting for you over there on your column! WHERE ARE YOU!
[quote][p][bold]Elgy[/bold] wrote: Anyone told the Echo the city is called 'Southampton' and not 'South-ampton'?[/p][/quote]I see these typos alot Elgy, it's probably from when the article goes into print, the word won't fit and the hyphen is breakpoint before it going onto a new line. . You also see "Pictured, right" and "pictured below" aswell, when there is nothing to see! . Mr Carr, where is your next single in the city entry? Don't tell me you've given up just 'cause of what I said... I did it for your own good sir, really I did! . Least it was in your own words. Mr Smith has left me sorely disappointed in his writing due to his chunky cut 'n' paste job (nicked from Melanie Adams) on Paula Poolton's murderer's tribunal today. I'm relying on you to give me something good.... we're all waiting for you over there on your column! WHERE ARE YOU! SpittingFire
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4:28pm Wed 15 Dec 10

southy says...

veracity wrote:
There are still rail links for cruise ships into the port.
In fact there was a train in for the Cunard ship yesterday and someone I spoke to said there are loads more planned for next yera which will be helpful to reducuce any road congrestion
Appaarently the port have spent a load of money improving the rail connection to the Qe2 terminal
Hullabaloo - what do think would be the hope of Soton getting a grant. Bob Hope or No Hope?
Notice that our friends up in Liverpool have now got grant aid to set up a rival Boat Show.
Best of luck to them bu twhy cant they do things without grant assistance?
Also it will be extra 90 ship calls, not an extra 90 cruise ships calling
Await Southy's normal negative comments on what should be a good news story for the city
i don't do negative comments just what is.
not a rival boat show, they had one going the year before southampton did, but it closed down in the 80's. i think they filled in the bay where liverpool boat show use to be.
[quote][p][bold]veracity[/bold] wrote: There are still rail links for cruise ships into the port. In fact there was a train in for the Cunard ship yesterday and someone I spoke to said there are loads more planned for next yera which will be helpful to reducuce any road congrestion Appaarently the port have spent a load of money improving the rail connection to the Qe2 terminal Hullabaloo - what do think would be the hope of Soton getting a grant. Bob Hope or No Hope? Notice that our friends up in Liverpool have now got grant aid to set up a rival Boat Show. Best of luck to them bu twhy cant they do things without grant assistance? Also it will be extra 90 ship calls, not an extra 90 cruise ships calling Await Southy's normal negative comments on what should be a good news story for the city[/p][/quote]i don't do negative comments just what is. not a rival boat show, they had one going the year before southampton did, but it closed down in the 80's. i think they filled in the bay where liverpool boat show use to be. southy
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4:47pm Wed 15 Dec 10

veracity says...

Really no negative comments!!!
Didnt know about the previous Liverpool Boat Show
For my info what year did it start?
where is the 'bay' in Liverpool where there boat show was staged?
Really no negative comments!!! Didnt know about the previous Liverpool Boat Show For my info what year did it start? where is the 'bay' in Liverpool where there boat show was staged? veracity
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5:48pm Wed 15 Dec 10

southy says...

up by liverpool airport, southampton boat show started in 1965, then it was taken over by the commercial lot 1969 i think or it might of been 1968. so liverpool boat show 1964
liverpool boat show had its start the same way has the southampton boat show, local fishermen and local river users, selling of surplus gear, and small boats that was made local.
birmingham boat show been going now for some time to must be at lest 45 years, and bristol boat show restated up about 8 years ago, that to closed down in the 80's
up by liverpool airport, southampton boat show started in 1965, then it was taken over by the commercial lot 1969 i think or it might of been 1968. so liverpool boat show 1964 liverpool boat show had its start the same way has the southampton boat show, local fishermen and local river users, selling of surplus gear, and small boats that was made local. birmingham boat show been going now for some time to must be at lest 45 years, and bristol boat show restated up about 8 years ago, that to closed down in the 80's southy
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7:20pm Wed 15 Dec 10

veracity says...

according to all info I can find the Boat show stared here in 1969 as you say (well done)
Liverpool had their boat show at Speke Airport (reallY?)
Bit like saying there is an annual boat show every year at Moodys at Swanwick
Think you are mixed up between Birmingham and the London Boat Show
according to all info I can find the Boat show stared here in 1969 as you say (well done) Liverpool had their boat show at Speke Airport (reallY?) Bit like saying there is an annual boat show every year at Moodys at Swanwick Think you are mixed up between Birmingham and the London Boat Show veracity
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7:37pm Wed 15 Dec 10

G0Rf says...

Shame the road links in and around southampton wont cope

shame the visitors have nothing to see in southampton and will simpily get off their coach / train etc and straight onto the ship without visiting the city.

shame the people of southampton wont be able to see any of these ships as there is not enough nice open space to see them!
Shame the road links in and around southampton wont cope shame the visitors have nothing to see in southampton and will simpily get off their coach / train etc and straight onto the ship without visiting the city. shame the people of southampton wont be able to see any of these ships as there is not enough nice open space to see them! G0Rf
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7:47pm Wed 15 Dec 10

isitcoziisblack says...

StEmmosfire wrote:
Peter Jones the Dragon?
Good guess but no different Peter Jones,
he was appointed ABP chairman in 2007 and ironically came from the Mersey Dock and Harbour Company which tried it on with the grant for their Liverpool cruise terminal! (not sure if he was involved with the Liverpool terminal).
[quote][p][bold]StEmmosfire[/bold] wrote: Peter Jones the Dragon?[/p][/quote]Good guess but no different Peter Jones, he was appointed ABP chairman in 2007 and ironically came from the Mersey Dock and Harbour Company which tried it on with the grant for their Liverpool cruise terminal! (not sure if he was involved with the Liverpool terminal). isitcoziisblack
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7:52pm Wed 15 Dec 10

isitcoziisblack says...

hulla baloo wrote:
Maybe they should apply for a grant, and see the response. Do they mean 90 extra/new ships or another 90 berthings throughout the year?
60 extra calls for 2011 and another 90 already booked for 2012 taking it to 450 total.

So not 90 extra/new ships but there will be a few new ones included in that total.
[quote][p][bold]hulla baloo[/bold] wrote: Maybe they should apply for a grant, and see the response. Do they mean 90 extra/new ships or another 90 berthings throughout the year?[/p][/quote]60 extra calls for 2011 and another 90 already booked for 2012 taking it to 450 total. So not 90 extra/new ships but there will be a few new ones included in that total. isitcoziisblack
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8:02pm Wed 15 Dec 10

southy says...

veracity wrote:
according to all info I can find the Boat show stared here in 1969 as you say (well done)
Liverpool had their boat show at Speke Airport (reallY?)
Bit like saying there is an annual boat show every year at Moodys at Swanwick
Think you are mixed up between Birmingham and the London Boat Show
london boat show is the oldest one off them all, that started back in the 50's some time, never been to that one. not 100% sure birmingham it was before i went here with my dad back in 1967, did not think much off it, quick check from the net, birmingham boat show opened up in 1962.
there use to be loads of boat shows around the uk, they where nothing like they are today, just pleasure and racing craft, back then its was more to do with working boats.
near the airport at the time, not at the airport, mind you it very well be at the air port now. if they extend the runway when they modernise airport some years ago.
[quote][p][bold]veracity[/bold] wrote: according to all info I can find the Boat show stared here in 1969 as you say (well done) Liverpool had their boat show at Speke Airport (reallY?) Bit like saying there is an annual boat show every year at Moodys at Swanwick Think you are mixed up between Birmingham and the London Boat Show[/p][/quote]london boat show is the oldest one off them all, that started back in the 50's some time, never been to that one. not 100% sure birmingham it was before i went here with my dad back in 1967, did not think much off it, quick check from the net, birmingham boat show opened up in 1962. there use to be loads of boat shows around the uk, they where nothing like they are today, just pleasure and racing craft, back then its was more to do with working boats. near the airport at the time, not at the airport, mind you it very well be at the air port now. if they extend the runway when they modernise airport some years ago. southy
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8:07pm Wed 15 Dec 10

veracity says...

G0Rf wrote:
Shame the road links in and around southampton wont cope

shame the visitors have nothing to see in southampton and will simpily get off their coach / train etc and straight onto the ship without visiting the city.

shame the people of southampton wont be able to see any of these ships as there is not enough nice open space to see them!
wonderfully positive quote Gorf

You are right about the majority of cruise passengers will go straight to the ship.

Thats the case in Miami, barcelona, venice and all the worlds major cruise ports

Most passengere are focussed on getting to their ships

However spk to any taxi driver, hotel and B&B owner and find out how many people stay in the city before (and sometimes after) a cruise.

You'd be surprised

revenue to city businesses so cant be bad i suggest.

i like cruise ships and go to Mayflower Park and town Quay to watch them go.

More often that not it is out of towners there.
There are very few locals (too busy indoors maoning about the traffic or something else) and those who do go generally end up giving incorrect info aboout the ships!!

as a proud musher I feel obliged to put them right about this great city and its port!!
[quote][p][bold]G0Rf[/bold] wrote: Shame the road links in and around southampton wont cope shame the visitors have nothing to see in southampton and will simpily get off their coach / train etc and straight onto the ship without visiting the city. shame the people of southampton wont be able to see any of these ships as there is not enough nice open space to see them![/p][/quote]wonderfully positive quote Gorf You are right about the majority of cruise passengers will go straight to the ship. Thats the case in Miami, barcelona, venice and all the worlds major cruise ports Most passengere are focussed on getting to their ships However spk to any taxi driver, hotel and B&B owner and find out how many people stay in the city before (and sometimes after) a cruise. You'd be surprised revenue to city businesses so cant be bad i suggest. i like cruise ships and go to Mayflower Park and town Quay to watch them go. More often that not it is out of towners there. There are very few locals (too busy indoors maoning about the traffic or something else) and those who do go generally end up giving incorrect info aboout the ships!! as a proud musher I feel obliged to put them right about this great city and its port!! veracity
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9:15pm Wed 15 Dec 10

HappyCruiser says...

I've cruised from Southampton three times in the last two years and we think it's a fantastic place, so not sure why people who live in it don't appreciate it as much as we do. We always arrive a day early (and in one case two days early) specifically so we can spend time in the city. Apart from the docks, which we really like, the museums are not to be missed and the city centre is great, especially when there is a market. We usually try to get in a day on the Isle of Wight if the weather is good and we always eat at the Thai restaurant just across Mayflower Park from the Holiday Inn. Local hotels are booked out some nights with cruise passengers, it must bring in a lot of trade to the city. We hope the new terminal brings lots of benefits for everyone. For our part, we're looking forward to another visit next May. Southampton is a long way from our home in North Yorkshire, but we would much rather cruise from there than anywhere else because of the warm welcome and lovely city.
I've cruised from Southampton three times in the last two years and we think it's a fantastic place, so not sure why people who live in it don't appreciate it as much as we do. We always arrive a day early (and in one case two days early) specifically so we can spend time in the city. Apart from the docks, which we really like, the museums are not to be missed and the city centre is great, especially when there is a market. We usually try to get in a day on the Isle of Wight if the weather is good and we always eat at the Thai restaurant just across Mayflower Park from the Holiday Inn. Local hotels are booked out some nights with cruise passengers, it must bring in a lot of trade to the city. We hope the new terminal brings lots of benefits for everyone. For our part, we're looking forward to another visit next May. Southampton is a long way from our home in North Yorkshire, but we would much rather cruise from there than anywhere else because of the warm welcome and lovely city. HappyCruiser
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8:27am Thu 16 Dec 10

veracity says...

Happy Cruiser
as a local it is great to hear such a positive comment on our fine city (careful tho' you don't get too gushing or our normal moaners will be on claiming ytour a PR plant!!)
Try to avoid driving on our roads tho as many of the locals reckon its thier divine right to have a trouble free drive in to visit the shops etc
ps North Yorks is a lovely part of the country too!!
Happy Cruiser as a local it is great to hear such a positive comment on our fine city (careful tho' you don't get too gushing or our normal moaners will be on claiming ytour a PR plant!!) Try to avoid driving on our roads tho as many of the locals reckon its thier divine right to have a trouble free drive in to visit the shops etc ps North Yorks is a lovely part of the country too!! veracity
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9:08am Thu 16 Dec 10

HappyCruiser says...

I'm certainly not a plant, I'm a journalist in Leeds in the day job! I live in Harrogate which is a lovely place but I sometimes think if you live somewhere you don't appreciate all the things people see which are new to them when they are visitors. Southampton will become more popular as time goes by, a lot of people I know had their cruises ruined last year by not being able to fly out to join their ships due to the ash cloud. I'd love to see the city promote itself through cruise forums like cruisedotcodotuk. One for the tourist office to follow up perhaps?
I'm certainly not a plant, I'm a journalist in Leeds in the day job! I live in Harrogate which is a lovely place but I sometimes think if you live somewhere you don't appreciate all the things people see which are new to them when they are visitors. Southampton will become more popular as time goes by, a lot of people I know had their cruises ruined last year by not being able to fly out to join their ships due to the ash cloud. I'd love to see the city promote itself through cruise forums like cruisedotcodotuk. One for the tourist office to follow up perhaps? HappyCruiser
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1:26pm Thu 16 Dec 10

veracity says...

Happy Cruiser
I once went out with a girl from Harrogate many moons a go and used to go to a club in the town center for 'boogie'.
nice town
Also remember driving across fromLeeds one time and it was very foggy over the moors.
Is there a 'Bettys' in Harrogate?
Happy Cruiser I once went out with a girl from Harrogate many moons a go and used to go to a club in the town center for 'boogie'. nice town Also remember driving across fromLeeds one time and it was very foggy over the moors. Is there a 'Bettys' in Harrogate? veracity
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5:18pm Thu 16 Dec 10

HappyCruiser says...

veracity wrote:
Happy Cruiser
I once went out with a girl from Harrogate many moons a go and used to go to a club in the town center for 'boogie'.
nice town
Also remember driving across fromLeeds one time and it was very foggy over the moors.
Is there a 'Bettys' in Harrogate?
We have TWO Bettys these days Veracity, top tea shop but not too expensive.
I have a personal interest in Southampton too. If you go to the God's House Tower museum you will see Roman artefacts my father helped to dig up at the Clausentum excavation probably around 1938.
When I come down again next May, how long do you think it would it take me to drive from the Holiday Inn in Herbert Walker Way to Pear Tree Avenue in Bitterne where he used to live? He was a pupil at King Edward VI School which I passed on my way back from the docks earlier this year.
[quote][p][bold]veracity[/bold] wrote: Happy Cruiser I once went out with a girl from Harrogate many moons a go and used to go to a club in the town center for 'boogie'. nice town Also remember driving across fromLeeds one time and it was very foggy over the moors. Is there a 'Bettys' in Harrogate?[/p][/quote]We have TWO Bettys these days Veracity, top tea shop but not too expensive. I have a personal interest in Southampton too. If you go to the God's House Tower museum you will see Roman artefacts my father helped to dig up at the Clausentum excavation probably around 1938. When I come down again next May, how long do you think it would it take me to drive from the Holiday Inn in Herbert Walker Way to Pear Tree Avenue in Bitterne where he used to live? He was a pupil at King Edward VI School which I passed on my way back from the docks earlier this year. HappyCruiser
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10:08pm Thu 16 Dec 10

veracity says...

From the Holiday Inn it should take 10-15mins from there to Peartree Avenue at Bitterne. Presume you have a sat nav to show the way?
You may already know that C;lausentum was the original Roman settlement on the bank of the River Itchen before the formation of Hamwih and then Hamptun.
King Edwards remains the top senior (used to be Grammar School) in Soton
Mainly fee paying now.
Your Dad must have had a decent education.
Do you know the 'Original Oak' at Headingly by any chance?
I used to have a relative who played RL for Bramley many years ago so have spent some time around Leeds
From the Holiday Inn it should take 10-15mins from there to Peartree Avenue at Bitterne. Presume you have a sat nav to show the way? You may already know that C;lausentum was the original Roman settlement on the bank of the River Itchen before the formation of Hamwih and then Hamptun. King Edwards remains the top senior (used to be Grammar School) in Soton Mainly fee paying now. Your Dad must have had a decent education. Do you know the 'Original Oak' at Headingly by any chance? I used to have a relative who played RL for Bramley many years ago so have spent some time around Leeds veracity
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10:06pm Sun 2 Jan 11

HappyCruiser says...

Sorry for the delay in replying to this Veracity, Christmas intervened!
Think King Edward's was fee paying when my father was there too. His father was a chief radio officer on cruise ships out of Southampton.
Haven't been in the Original Oak for years, think it is much loved by studenty types these days.
Leeds is a great city, pay us another visit before too long!
Sorry for the delay in replying to this Veracity, Christmas intervened! Think King Edward's was fee paying when my father was there too. His father was a chief radio officer on cruise ships out of Southampton. Haven't been in the Original Oak for years, think it is much loved by studenty types these days. Leeds is a great city, pay us another visit before too long! HappyCruiser
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