Multi-million pound revamp for Southampton's Debenhams store

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ONE of Southampton’s biggest department stores is undergoing a multi-million pound makeover, bringing 30 new jobs to the city.

The revamp of the city’s flagship Debenhams store in Queens Way store comes as another boost to traders in the East Street area.

Property firm Arcadian Estates announced earlier this month that the struggling East Street shopping centre will be bulldozed and replaced with a giant Morrisons that will create 400 jobs.

The Debenhams revamp will see all departments undergo a complete modernisation by September.

The works also confirm Debenhams’ commitment to the store – its fourth largest by trading area – after rumours it was planning to quit the building.

Previous plans that would have seen it demolished and replaced by a residential tower overlooking Hoglands and Houndwell parks have been scrapped.

Debenhams said the works, which started this week, will see the cosmetics department expanding with new brands being introduced to rival WestQuay shopping centre’s anchor John Lewis store.

Menswear will be moved to the first floor creating a “destination”

for male shoppers The women’s department will then be spread over two floors – the ground and lower ground.

Homeware and the children’s department will take up the second floor.

The existing restaurant will be ripped out to be replaced with a new 180-seater full service restaurant and dining area with park side views.

Store manager John Given said: “There’s a real buzz among colleagues about the changes taking place in store and we’re confident customers are going to love the new and improved shopping experience.

“We’re lucky to have a fantastic history with our building, as Edwin Jones were first here in the mid 1800s, then we were rebuilt in the 1950s after damage in the war. Since the building officially became Debenhams in the 1970s, it’s only right to bestow it with its fair share of TLC every few years.”

City centre manager Ian Welland said: “I think it will be brilliant for the store and excellent for the general story of that part of the city centre.

“In due course it’s almost certain we will see an uplift in footfall down that way when Morrisons comes. And Debenhams has always had a loyal following which drives people into the city centre.”

The East Street Shopping Centre, just minutes from Southampton High Street, was originally built during the 1970s.

Once popular it has dwindled in recent years until it contained just a couple of businesses as many retailers opted for newer malls such as the Marlands and now WestQuay.

The new three-storey building, which will house Morrisons, will also restore a pedestrian link from St Mary’s to the retail centre.

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9:41am Wed 20 Apr 11

Brite Spark says...

I get lost in there, can never find my way out of the exit that I actually want.

When is the Fareham branch opening?
I get lost in there, can never find my way out of the exit that I actually want. When is the Fareham branch opening? Brite Spark
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10:19am Wed 20 Apr 11

StEmmosfire says...

Just knock it down, it's in the wrong place anyway now.
Just knock it down, it's in the wrong place anyway now. StEmmosfire
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10:19am Wed 20 Apr 11

SotonNorth says...

Wow, a revamp! Many departments haven't been touched since the early 1990s or earlier!
Wow, a revamp! Many departments haven't been touched since the early 1990s or earlier! SotonNorth
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10:23am Wed 20 Apr 11

Condor Man says...

Debenhams is looking a bit like Grace Brothers inside, hopefully the new Morrisons will bring greater footfall to this part of the city.
Debenhams is looking a bit like Grace Brothers inside, hopefully the new Morrisons will bring greater footfall to this part of the city. Condor Man
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10:26am Wed 20 Apr 11

Brite Spark says...

Condor Man wrote:
Debenhams is looking a bit like Grace Brothers inside, hopefully the new Morrisons will bring greater footfall to this part of the city.
Trevor Bannister died last week, 76 can you believe?
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: Debenhams is looking a bit like Grace Brothers inside, hopefully the new Morrisons will bring greater footfall to this part of the city.[/p][/quote]Trevor Bannister died last week, 76 can you believe? Brite Spark
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10:30am Wed 20 Apr 11

Scrutinizer says...

I've been shopping in this store since when it was Edwin Jones many years ago. I even recall having my photograph taken in there with father Christmas in 1960 er... when I was very young anyway! I have to say as a fairly regular customer over the years, that the store has got quite tatty around the edges and almost unbearably hot and stuffy too in Summer. I think I might be a little put off browsing now the mens' department is being shifted upstairs, though I understand the reasons why women's departments tend to be mainly on the ground floor, as many have push chairs and very young children in-tow etc, and I don't have a problem with that at all, though I notice the toys are still being situated upstairs. But I'd be more inclined to use the store if their restaurant wasn't so expensive and with the new restaurant I don't see that changing. But I'm intrigued to know what they mean by "a full service" restaurant. At one time in there, there was a half decent restaurant upstairs and a basic one downstairs which also served breakfast, plus a coffee shop in/next to, the ladies hairdressers (?) which was also upstairs. That would be about thirty-thirty five or so something years ago. The public toilets in there are poor and in need of major improvement too. So a serious revamp of the whole store has been long overdue in my view. But it's great news to hear the owners are showing a commitment to stay long-term and with the new Morrisons store going in next door, well hopefully more people will be atracted to shop in that part of town. All this should help the smaller businesses in East Street too.
I've been shopping in this store since when it was Edwin Jones many years ago. I even recall having my photograph taken in there with father Christmas in 1960 er... when I was very young anyway! I have to say as a fairly regular customer over the years, that the store has got quite tatty around the edges and almost unbearably hot and stuffy too in Summer. I think I might be a little put off browsing now the mens' department is being shifted upstairs, though I understand the reasons why women's departments tend to be mainly on the ground floor, as many have push chairs and very young children in-tow etc, and I don't have a problem with that at all, though I notice the toys are still being situated upstairs. But I'd be more inclined to use the store if their restaurant wasn't so expensive and with the new restaurant I don't see that changing. But I'm intrigued to know what they mean by "a full service" restaurant. At one time in there, there was a half decent restaurant upstairs and a basic one downstairs which also served breakfast, plus a coffee shop in/next to, the ladies hairdressers (?) which was also upstairs. That would be about thirty-thirty five or so something years ago. The public toilets in there are poor and in need of major improvement too. So a serious revamp of the whole store has been long overdue in my view. But it's great news to hear the owners are showing a commitment to stay long-term and with the new Morrisons store going in next door, well hopefully more people will be atracted to shop in that part of town. All this should help the smaller businesses in East Street too. Scrutinizer
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10:45am Wed 20 Apr 11

Scrutinizer says...

Brite Spark wrote:
Condor Man wrote: Debenhams is looking a bit like Grace Brothers inside, hopefully the new Morrisons will bring greater footfall to this part of the city.
Trevor Bannister died last week, 76 can you believe?
But it seems like only yesterday when he was that cheaky young man in that classic comedy series. Shame to lose him.
[quote][p][bold]Brite Spark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: Debenhams is looking a bit like Grace Brothers inside, hopefully the new Morrisons will bring greater footfall to this part of the city.[/p][/quote]Trevor Bannister died last week, 76 can you believe?[/p][/quote]But it seems like only yesterday when he was that cheaky young man in that classic comedy series. Shame to lose him. Scrutinizer
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10:52am Wed 20 Apr 11

Condor Man says...

Scrutinizer wrote:
Brite Spark wrote:
Condor Man wrote: Debenhams is looking a bit like Grace Brothers inside, hopefully the new Morrisons will bring greater footfall to this part of the city.
Trevor Bannister died last week, 76 can you believe?
But it seems like only yesterday when he was that cheaky young man in that classic comedy series. Shame to lose him.
From the original Are You Being Served cast only Frank Thornton and Nicholas Smith are still with us.
[quote][p][bold]Scrutinizer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brite Spark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: Debenhams is looking a bit like Grace Brothers inside, hopefully the new Morrisons will bring greater footfall to this part of the city.[/p][/quote]Trevor Bannister died last week, 76 can you believe?[/p][/quote]But it seems like only yesterday when he was that cheaky young man in that classic comedy series. Shame to lose him.[/p][/quote]From the original Are You Being Served cast only Frank Thornton and Nicholas Smith are still with us. Condor Man
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11:00am Wed 20 Apr 11

Avery T Decanary says...

Did I read the Echo report correctly? The East Street Centre was once popular. When was that? It has been a white elephant from the time it opened. My memory may be playing tricks but I do not recall anything above a 50 per cent take up in store space there.

Anyway – good luck to Edwin Jones, sorry Debenhams, on their revamp.

I also used to like shopping in Mayes
Did I read the Echo report correctly? The East Street Centre was once popular. When was that? It has been a white elephant from the time it opened. My memory may be playing tricks but I do not recall anything above a 50 per cent take up in store space there. Anyway – good luck to Edwin Jones, sorry Debenhams, on their revamp. I also used to like shopping in Mayes Avery T Decanary
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11:49am Wed 20 Apr 11

derek james says...

i avoid this store m and s and john lewis like the plague, overpriced and overated
i avoid this store m and s and john lewis like the plague, overpriced and overated derek james
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12:28pm Wed 20 Apr 11

KattiekinsSoton says...

I did some work experience there about 12 years ago when I was at college and it was tatty and old then. The staff areas were even worse. I tend to forget its there and only ever bother going in when there's a sale on cos its so expensive. Well overdue for an update and some well overdue marketing is needed to ensure that those visiting the city know where it is. Looking forward to Morrisons though!
I did some work experience there about 12 years ago when I was at college and it was tatty and old then. The staff areas were even worse. I tend to forget its there and only ever bother going in when there's a sale on cos its so expensive. Well overdue for an update and some well overdue marketing is needed to ensure that those visiting the city know where it is. Looking forward to Morrisons though! KattiekinsSoton
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12:58pm Wed 20 Apr 11

Condor Man says...

derek james wrote:
i avoid this store m and s and john lewis like the plague, overpriced and overated
John Lewis is never knowingly undersold and their guarantee are better than most shops offer so I think they're good value. In comparison Debenhams is not so good. If you think either are expensive try House of Fraser.
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: i avoid this store m and s and john lewis like the plague, overpriced and overated[/p][/quote]John Lewis is never knowingly undersold and their guarantee are better than most shops offer so I think they're good value. In comparison Debenhams is not so good. If you think either are expensive try House of Fraser. Condor Man
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2:20pm Wed 20 Apr 11

MGRA says...

east street shopping centre was doomed once "Sarnies" opened and totally stunk out the place, even all the chocolate bars purchased in sarnies smelt and tasted disgusting,,, WHAT was that smell !?!? Regards Debenhams.. its rubbish.. don't really care what they do with it to be honest. The sales experience in John Lewis will always be better, staff friendlier and better trained. Maybe the ignorant don't mind being served by the ignorant so Debenhams will continue to serve a niche but staff that grunt and offer me a store card whilst totally screwing up a basic transaction is not for me.
east street shopping centre was doomed once "Sarnies" opened and totally stunk out the place, even all the chocolate bars purchased in sarnies smelt and tasted disgusting,,, WHAT was that smell !?!? Regards Debenhams.. its rubbish.. don't really care what they do with it to be honest. The sales experience in John Lewis will always be better, staff friendlier and better trained. Maybe the ignorant don't mind being served by the ignorant so Debenhams will continue to serve a niche but staff that grunt and offer me a store card whilst totally screwing up a basic transaction is not for me. MGRA
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2:52pm Wed 20 Apr 11

Brite Spark says...

Debenhams staff have always been ok with me. I am 'Maine - New England Man' I have stripes and nauticalia on all of my shirts!
Debenhams staff have always been ok with me. I am 'Maine - New England Man' I have stripes and nauticalia on all of my shirts! Brite Spark
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5:53pm Wed 20 Apr 11

Condor Man says...

MGRA wrote:
east street shopping centre was doomed once "Sarnies" opened and totally stunk out the place, even all the chocolate bars purchased in sarnies smelt and tasted disgusting,,, WHAT was that smell !?!? Regards Debenhams.. its rubbish.. don't really care what they do with it to be honest. The sales experience in John Lewis will always be better, staff friendlier and better trained. Maybe the ignorant don't mind being served by the ignorant so Debenhams will continue to serve a niche but staff that grunt and offer me a store card whilst totally screwing up a basic transaction is not for me.
Sarnies! now there's blast from the past. I used to get filled rolls there, they were great value but I agree with the smell
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: east street shopping centre was doomed once "Sarnies" opened and totally stunk out the place, even all the chocolate bars purchased in sarnies smelt and tasted disgusting,,, WHAT was that smell !?!? Regards Debenhams.. its rubbish.. don't really care what they do with it to be honest. The sales experience in John Lewis will always be better, staff friendlier and better trained. Maybe the ignorant don't mind being served by the ignorant so Debenhams will continue to serve a niche but staff that grunt and offer me a store card whilst totally screwing up a basic transaction is not for me.[/p][/quote]Sarnies! now there's blast from the past. I used to get filled rolls there, they were great value but I agree with the smell Condor Man
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7:06pm Wed 20 Apr 11

Poppy22 says...

About time it had a revamp and at least it'll attract people (mostly women probably) down the roads from Above Bar/West Quay so that should increase trade in the shops/restaurants there too.
We used to shop At Debs all the time (and Tyrrells) years ago but as soon as West Quay's John Lewis opened that was it for us as far as Debs was concerned. Would be tempted down there again after a revamp as clothes/cosmetics/ho
usehold items were always well priced and almost always on offer. Also, John Lewis' fashion brands have gone towards the more young/designer/expen
sive end of the market (some duplicating other West Quay shops, which is nuts!) so will be good to have other brand options, plus the competition on beauty items. Online companies like QVC have shaken up John Lewis & Debenhams so they now stock better brands at cheaper prices and the cosmetic houses no longer have a monopoly on the floor space. All good news for the consumer.
About time it had a revamp and at least it'll attract people (mostly women probably) down the roads from Above Bar/West Quay so that should increase trade in the shops/restaurants there too. We used to shop At Debs all the time (and Tyrrells) years ago but as soon as West Quay's John Lewis opened that was it for us as far as Debs was concerned. Would be tempted down there again after a revamp as clothes/cosmetics/ho usehold items were always well priced and almost always on offer. Also, John Lewis' fashion brands have gone towards the more young/designer/expen sive end of the market (some duplicating other West Quay shops, which is nuts!) so will be good to have other brand options, plus the competition on beauty items. Online companies like QVC have shaken up John Lewis & Debenhams so they now stock better brands at cheaper prices and the cosmetic houses no longer have a monopoly on the floor space. All good news for the consumer. Poppy22
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7:27pm Wed 20 Apr 11

shabbycaddy says...

Fairplay, this could of been knocked down and some crap flats built, but they are going to save the building. As 1950s architecture its not to bad a building compared to most in southampton and its one of the last remaining old style department store in southampton.
Fairplay, this could of been knocked down and some crap flats built, but they are going to save the building. As 1950s architecture its not to bad a building compared to most in southampton and its one of the last remaining old style department store in southampton. shabbycaddy
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7:44pm Wed 20 Apr 11

soton1980 says...

This is long overdue and I think it's good that they are staying put in the current building. Hopefully this and the new Morrisons store will be a much needed shot in the arm for what has been a long neglected area of town.
This is long overdue and I think it's good that they are staying put in the current building. Hopefully this and the new Morrisons store will be a much needed shot in the arm for what has been a long neglected area of town. soton1980
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7:46pm Wed 20 Apr 11

soton1980 says...

Brite Spark wrote:
I get lost in there, can never find my way out of the exit that I actually want.

When is the Fareham branch opening?
Apparently it should be opening in the summer.
[quote][p][bold]Brite Spark[/bold] wrote: I get lost in there, can never find my way out of the exit that I actually want. When is the Fareham branch opening?[/p][/quote]Apparently it should be opening in the summer. soton1980
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8:25pm Wed 20 Apr 11

Rob444 says...

Thank goodness it's not going to be replaced by more grotty flats.
Thank goodness it's not going to be replaced by more grotty flats. Rob444
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8:46pm Wed 20 Apr 11

Brite Spark says...

soton1980 wrote:
Brite Spark wrote:
I get lost in there, can never find my way out of the exit that I actually want.

When is the Fareham branch opening?
Apparently it should be opening in the summer.
That'll be this week then - this weather can't last!
[quote][p][bold]soton1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brite Spark[/bold] wrote: I get lost in there, can never find my way out of the exit that I actually want. When is the Fareham branch opening?[/p][/quote]Apparently it should be opening in the summer.[/p][/quote]That'll be this week then - this weather can't last! Brite Spark
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9:03pm Wed 20 Apr 11

John Sydenham says...

Avery T Decanary wrote:
Did I read the Echo report correctly? The East Street Centre was once popular. When was that? It has been a white elephant from the time it opened. My memory may be playing tricks but I do not recall anything above a 50 per cent take up in store space there.

Anyway – good luck to Edwin Jones, sorry Debenhams, on their revamp.

I also used to like shopping in Mayes
East Street Shopping Centre was popular when they had Tandy, for it was the preferred destination for the Southampton Intelligentsia in the early 1980s. Or at least for spotty 12 year-old school kids playing video games on a TRS-80 for a couple of hours on a Saturday lunchtime before heading off to The Dell.
[quote][p][bold]Avery T Decanary[/bold] wrote: Did I read the Echo report correctly? The East Street Centre was once popular. When was that? It has been a white elephant from the time it opened. My memory may be playing tricks but I do not recall anything above a 50 per cent take up in store space there. Anyway – good luck to Edwin Jones, sorry Debenhams, on their revamp. I also used to like shopping in Mayes[/p][/quote]East Street Shopping Centre was popular when they had Tandy, for it was the preferred destination for the Southampton Intelligentsia in the early 1980s. Or at least for spotty 12 year-old school kids playing video games on a TRS-80 for a couple of hours on a Saturday lunchtime before heading off to The Dell. John Sydenham
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11:24pm Wed 20 Apr 11

tuesday says...

their bournemouth store needs attention to.only one lift seems to work and th escalator only goes up to the 2nd floor,when theres 4 floors!
their bournemouth store needs attention to.only one lift seems to work and th escalator only goes up to the 2nd floor,when theres 4 floors! tuesday
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11:42pm Wed 20 Apr 11

freemantlegirl2 says...

Brite Spark wrote:
Debenhams staff have always been ok with me. I am 'Maine - New England Man' I have stripes and nauticalia on all of my shirts!
oooooh I say!! hello Sailor ! ;)

Glad they're getting a re-vamp too. I still shop in Debenhams, but was very sad when the Pier concession closed :( some (not all) of the staff could be a bit more chirpy though. JL are outstanding with their staff, a few stores should really follow their example.
[quote][p][bold]Brite Spark[/bold] wrote: Debenhams staff have always been ok with me. I am 'Maine - New England Man' I have stripes and nauticalia on all of my shirts![/p][/quote]oooooh I say!! hello Sailor ! ;) Glad they're getting a re-vamp too. I still shop in Debenhams, but was very sad when the Pier concession closed :( some (not all) of the staff could be a bit more chirpy though. JL are outstanding with their staff, a few stores should really follow their example. freemantlegirl2
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7:56am Thu 21 Apr 11

SpittingFire says...

shabbycaddy wrote:
Fairplay, this could of been knocked down and some crap flats built, but they are going to save the building. As 1950s architecture its not to bad a building compared to most in southampton and its one of the last remaining old style department store in southampton.
Further good news for the area and great news for the building too. Relived to hear that Debenhams are sprucing it up.
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You are right shabbycaddy, it would have been sad to see this old building go; and it’s a bit of post-war retail history for the city, and hopefully that’ll be appreciated more with age.
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I did not know that this store was Debenhams’ forth largest by trading area. As it’s been liked to Grace Brothers, makes you wonder what the other top stores are like!
[quote][p][bold]shabbycaddy[/bold] wrote: Fairplay, this could of been knocked down and some crap flats built, but they are going to save the building. As 1950s architecture its not to bad a building compared to most in southampton and its one of the last remaining old style department store in southampton.[/p][/quote]Further good news for the area and great news for the building too. Relived to hear that Debenhams are sprucing it up. . You are right shabbycaddy, it would have been sad to see this old building go; and it’s a bit of post-war retail history for the city, and hopefully that’ll be appreciated more with age. . I did not know that this store was Debenhams’ forth largest by trading area. As it’s been liked to Grace Brothers, makes you wonder what the other top stores are like! SpittingFire
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7:59am Thu 21 Apr 11

SpittingFire says...

John Sydenham wrote:
Avery T Decanary wrote:
Did I read the Echo report correctly? The East Street Centre was once popular. When was that? It has been a white elephant from the time it opened. My memory may be playing tricks but I do not recall anything above a 50 per cent take up in store space there.

Anyway – good luck to Edwin Jones, sorry Debenhams, on their revamp.

I also used to like shopping in Mayes
East Street Shopping Centre was popular when they had Tandy, for it was the preferred destination for the Southampton Intelligentsia in the early 1980s. Or at least for spotty 12 year-old school kids playing video games on a TRS-80 for a couple of hours on a Saturday lunchtime before heading off to The Dell.
I see you’ve spent those formative years well, Mr Sydenham!
.
Tell me sir, since coming of age have you become a fan of radio 4 as well?
.
I feel things are getting rather highbrow indeed!
.
[quote][p][bold]John Sydenham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avery T Decanary[/bold] wrote: Did I read the Echo report correctly? The East Street Centre was once popular. When was that? It has been a white elephant from the time it opened. My memory may be playing tricks but I do not recall anything above a 50 per cent take up in store space there. Anyway – good luck to Edwin Jones, sorry Debenhams, on their revamp. I also used to like shopping in Mayes[/p][/quote]East Street Shopping Centre was popular when they had Tandy, for it was the preferred destination for the Southampton Intelligentsia in the early 1980s. Or at least for spotty 12 year-old school kids playing video games on a TRS-80 for a couple of hours on a Saturday lunchtime before heading off to The Dell.[/p][/quote]I see you’ve spent those formative years well, Mr Sydenham! . Tell me sir, since coming of age have you become a fan of radio 4 as well? . I feel things are getting rather highbrow indeed! . SpittingFire
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9:09am Thu 21 Apr 11

Brite Spark says...

I am freeeeeeeeee!
I am freeeeeeeeee! Brite Spark
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10:40am Thu 21 Apr 11

Scrutinizer says...

You've all done very well! Now where's my lovely young 'assistant'?!
You've all done very well! Now where's my lovely young 'assistant'?! Scrutinizer
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11:13am Thu 21 Apr 11

SpittingFire says...

SpittingFire wrote:
John Sydenham wrote:
Avery T Decanary wrote:
Did I read the Echo report correctly? The East Street Centre was once popular. When was that? It has been a white elephant from the time it opened. My memory may be playing tricks but I do not recall anything above a 50 per cent take up in store space there.

Anyway – good luck to Edwin Jones, sorry Debenhams, on their revamp.

I also used to like shopping in Mayes
East Street Shopping Centre was popular when they had Tandy, for it was the preferred destination for the Southampton Intelligentsia in the early 1980s. Or at least for spotty 12 year-old school kids playing video games on a TRS-80 for a couple of hours on a Saturday lunchtime before heading off to The Dell.
I see you’ve spent those formative years well, Mr Sydenham!
.
Tell me sir, since coming of age have you become a fan of radio 4 as well?
.
I feel things are getting rather highbrow indeed!
.
Squarely to clarify; I meant highbrow in its literal sense, not the mocking one.
.
[quote][p][bold]SpittingFire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John Sydenham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Avery T Decanary[/bold] wrote: Did I read the Echo report correctly? The East Street Centre was once popular. When was that? It has been a white elephant from the time it opened. My memory may be playing tricks but I do not recall anything above a 50 per cent take up in store space there. Anyway – good luck to Edwin Jones, sorry Debenhams, on their revamp. I also used to like shopping in Mayes[/p][/quote]East Street Shopping Centre was popular when they had Tandy, for it was the preferred destination for the Southampton Intelligentsia in the early 1980s. Or at least for spotty 12 year-old school kids playing video games on a TRS-80 for a couple of hours on a Saturday lunchtime before heading off to The Dell.[/p][/quote]I see you’ve spent those formative years well, Mr Sydenham! . Tell me sir, since coming of age have you become a fan of radio 4 as well? . I feel things are getting rather highbrow indeed! .[/p][/quote]Squarely to clarify; I meant highbrow in its literal sense, not the mocking one. . SpittingFire
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