Traffic wardens begin strike (From Daily Echo)

Makes me laugh how postal staff and cabin crews last year, and now bin men and traffic wardens this year, time their strikes to coincide with Bank Holidays. These guys have just had a long weekend and now are taking the rest of this week off (good weather coming guys). How many of them are actively protesting, how many are sat at home in the garden with a beer?

I wonder what would happen if SCC suddenly gave the parking contract to NCP? Or the bins to Veolia? basically most SCC services can be outsourced and the unions are playing with peoples pensions and conditions with this action.

This will be a tricky one for them: are they loyal valuable public servants without whom the city will grind to a halt? Or are they dumb instruments of the fascist jackbooted regime which seeks to tax people at every turn, even when they are parking their cars as they clock in for another poorly paid shift at the public sector trough/coalface ?

Remember folks, its only 5% at the top, the downtrodden grafters at the bottom are simply being asked to take 2% less in order to protect 400 of their brothers and sisters. Still, got to think about number one, eh lads ?

OK, give them the money & then make 5% redundant. Simple.

Condor Man wrote:
I wonder what would happen if SCC suddenly gave the parking contract to NCP? Or the bins to Veolia? basically most SCC services can be outsourced and the unions are playing with peoples pensions and conditions with this action.

Every body with bit of working brain knows the real agenda of your Tory brand of Thatcherite parties is hardly any different from other two brands of Thatcherism i.e. sugar coated Thatcherites of Lib-Dems and closet Conservative brand of Milliband’s right wing Labour, which has ditched most of the good values of old Labour
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Privatisation of virtually every thing is the secret mantra of all three main parties; Condor Man is simply spilling the beans. May be without any clearance from his leadership
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If the trade unions leadership is really serving the interests of their membership and the working people at large they should stop posturing and stop financing the very snakes which want to bite their members in the long run. Leadership should stop sacrificing workers pay and conditions at the evil alter of Thatcherism
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They should stop playing ping pong of selective strikes and call of all out complete walk out (general strike). Till cast iron guarantees are secured against privatisation and for decent pay and working conditions
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The current strategy of trade unions may not be satisfactory, but that is what democracy is all about. So it is the moral duty of all the trade unionists to support this democratic decision of union to have selective/part time strike actions. It is not about liking or disliking any profession it is about class struggle i.e. workers vs wicked most tyrannical bosses. United we stand divided we will fall in a big way.

Traffic wardens on strike. Good. I hope they stay out a long time !

My error in the aboove .It should be call for general strike.

Surely council tax is the council's main source of revenue. The £100,000 per week from parking is measly by comparison.

"about class struggle i.e. workers vs wicked most tyrannical bosses. United we stand divided we will fall in a big way."

Marxist, Trotskyite nonsense....

Personally, I would rather pay an extra couple of quid extra a month so that the binmen didn't have to take a pay cut.
The traffic wardens can kiss my backside though. Mini-hitlers with no common sense.

I think the Traffic Wardens do a fine job.........

Brite Spark wrote:
Makes me laugh how postal staff and cabin crews last year, and now bin men and traffic wardens this year, time their strikes to coincide with Bank Holidays. These guys have just had a long weekend and now are taking the rest of this week off (good weather coming guys). How many of them are actively protesting, how many are sat at home in the garden with a beer?

Guess not so Beite.You have never entered into strike action. A rota is drawn up so everyone has there share of picketing and drinking beer at home. Thats called fair. Never a Union person - stands out a mile.

Yay! free parking!

Does anybody know what traffic wardens and bin men get paid, including there good pensions and any other perks? When I worked in the Private sector I was only earning £27,000 and thats after 4 years of FE HE College in Engineering. No pension either. A lot of other people in the same situation too, I decided to since start up my own company and go contracting instead, much more rewarding financially but I would rather be a company man. What justifies a Bin man or Traffic Warden to earn such high wages? If that is the case.

Down with the Unions.

Down with blackmail.

townieboy wrote:

Brite Spark wrote:
Makes me laugh how postal staff and cabin crews last year, and now bin men and traffic wardens this year, time their strikes to coincide with Bank Holidays. These guys have just had a long weekend and now are taking the rest of this week off (good weather coming guys). How many of them are actively protesting, how many are sat at home in the garden with a beer?

Guess not so Beite.You have never entered into strike action. A rota is drawn up so everyone has there share of picketing and drinking beer at home. Thats called fair. Never a Union person - stands out a mile.

You are right townieboy, in my line of work we just get on with it. I've never taken a day off sick in 26 years, and have never been on strike. Sometimes it pays not to bite the hand that feeds you.

Southampton dockies will be able to tell you all about that.

Jeff Le Taxi wrote:
Yay! free parking!

Beware! I am reliably informed that some Traffic Wardens are working!!

George4th wrote:

Jeff Le Taxi wrote: Yay! free parking!

Beware! I am reliably informed that some Traffic Wardens are working!!

You mean watch out there are scabs about!

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

George4th wrote:

Jeff Le Taxi wrote: Yay! free parking!

Beware! I am reliably informed that some Traffic Wardens are working!!

You mean watch out there are scabs about!

Do you work in a chip shop?

Sir Richard Dannatt, who appeared to urge ministers to increase the basic salary of soldiers as part of an appraisal of their priorities.

"If you compare a traffic warden and a police constable on overtime, I think you will find that an individual serviceman gets paid quite a lot less," Dannatt told the Sun.

His remarks were seized upon by the Royal British Legion and serving soldiers, who said the frank intervention had again highlighted some of the disadvantages of joining up: without benefits, a new recruit receives an average salary of £16,000.

Union leaders representing traffic wardens, whose basic salary is just over £20,000, insisted their members were worth every penny too.

George4th wrote:
I think the Traffic Wardens do a fine job.........

Wasn't funny first time you posted the same comment.

Royston Smith "parking strike would lead to the loss of the council's main source of income and threaten more jobs and services."

So.... our Council is now dependent on parking charges and fines? That's our business model is it????

This is a disgrace, absoltutely disgustling... I personally will avoid EVER paying for parking again!!!!!

Mr Smith if that Echo quote is true, then you've got bigger problems than a few Parking Vermin on strike, best you fire them and put your thinking cap on!

Why do Traffic Wardens have yellow lines along the front of their caps?

Brite Spark wrote:

townieboy wrote:

Brite Spark wrote: Makes me laugh how postal staff and cabin crews last year, and now bin men and traffic wardens this year, time their strikes to coincide with Bank Holidays. These guys have just had a long weekend and now are taking the rest of this week off (good weather coming guys). How many of them are actively protesting, how many are sat at home in the garden with a beer?

Guess not so Beite.You have never entered into strike action. A rota is drawn up so everyone has there share of picketing and drinking beer at home. Thats called fair. Never a Union person - stands out a mile.

You are right townieboy, in my line of work we just get on with it. I've never taken a day off sick in 26 years, and have never been on strike. Sometimes it pays not to bite the hand that feeds you. Southampton dockies will be able to tell you all about that.

Just get on with it ? So when your next salary comes round and the boss says your taking a 10% cut what happens ? Do you just accept and pray you have a job that may not meet your outlays anymore ? Do you just take it as fact and let your boss enjoy more profit at your expence ? Or should you have joined a union so you and your colleagues could maybe fight ? And not just eat what the boss gives you ? Come on all bills rise so a pay rise is just out of necessity not greed. After 5 years of minus payrises were will you be ?

Brite Spark wrote:

townieboy wrote:

Brite Spark wrote: Makes me laugh how postal staff and cabin crews last year, and now bin men and traffic wardens this year, time their strikes to coincide with Bank Holidays. These guys have just had a long weekend and now are taking the rest of this week off (good weather coming guys). How many of them are actively protesting, how many are sat at home in the garden with a beer?

Guess not so Beite.You have never entered into strike action. A rota is drawn up so everyone has there share of picketing and drinking beer at home. Thats called fair. Never a Union person - stands out a mile.

You are right townieboy, in my line of work we just get on with it. I've never taken a day off sick in 26 years, and have never been on strike. Sometimes it pays not to bite the hand that feeds you. Southampton dockies will be able to tell you all about that.

What have Southampton dockies got to do with that. There hasn't been a strike there for over 27 years.
I've worked in the docks for nearly 20 years, and have never been on strike. In that time we've had 5 years worth of pay freezes and compulsory redundancies. But still we didn't strike. You're talking out of ignorance.

StEmmosfire wrote:
Sir Richard Dannatt, who appeared to urge ministers to increase the basic salary of soldiers as part of an appraisal of their priorities.

"If you compare a traffic warden and a police constable on overtime, I think you will find that an individual serviceman gets paid quite a lot less," Dannatt told the Sun.

His remarks were seized upon by the Royal British Legion and serving soldiers, who said the frank intervention had again highlighted some of the disadvantages of joining up: without benefits, a new recruit receives an average salary of £16,000.

Union leaders representing traffic wardens, whose basic salary is just over £20,000, insisted their members were worth every penny too.

Didnt Sir Richard Dannatt also say that the Armed forces could not stand anymore cuts to their numbers.
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Wasnt it also this Government that has now stopped £2000 bonus payment to the Parachute Regiment with immediate effect

Safehands wrote:

Brite Spark wrote:

townieboy wrote:

Brite Spark wrote: Makes me laugh how postal staff and cabin crews last year, and now bin men and traffic wardens this year, time their strikes to coincide with Bank Holidays. These guys have just had a long weekend and now are taking the rest of this week off (good weather coming guys). How many of them are actively protesting, how many are sat at home in the garden with a beer?

Guess not so Beite.You have never entered into strike action. A rota is drawn up so everyone has there share of picketing and drinking beer at home. Thats called fair. Never a Union person - stands out a mile.

You are right townieboy, in my line of work we just get on with it. I've never taken a day off sick in 26 years, and have never been on strike. Sometimes it pays not to bite the hand that feeds you. Southampton dockies will be able to tell you all about that.

What have Southampton dockies got to do with that. There hasn't been a strike there for over 27 years.
I've worked in the docks for nearly 20 years, and have never been on strike. In that time we've had 5 years worth of pay freezes and compulsory redundancies. But still we didn't strike. You're talking out of ignorance.

I was referring to Southampton's biggest ever strike back in the early 80's when the docks lost business for years due to the greedy and selfish stevedores strike. I haven't had a pay rise for 4 years by the way.

StEmmosfire wrote:
Does anybody know what traffic wardens and bin men get paid, including there good pensions and any other perks? When I worked in the Private sector I was only earning £27,000 and thats after 4 years of FE HE College in Engineering. No pension either. A lot of other people in the same situation too, I decided to since start up my own company and go contracting instead, much more rewarding financially but I would rather be a company man. What justifies a Bin man or Traffic Warden to earn such high wages? If that is the case.

Bin men do job & finish. they were timing them & the bin men were running around to finish quickly my friend asked why are you running the reply was see that man he's timing us so the quicker we do it the better .friend said but wouldn't that mean you could do more bins a day answer no we do the round & finish so any time after the time he writes down is paid in overtime! the road sweepers are on approx £20,000 so the binmen & drivers are on considerably more I've heard it was £25,000 plus all the overtime they can earn in a forty hour week.how many other people can say they're being paid overtime & only doing a forty hour week? My friend doesn't want his name printed

Dustbin Hoffman?
Osama Bin Liner?

Brite Spark wrote:

Safehands wrote:

Brite Spark wrote:

townieboy wrote:

Brite Spark wrote: Makes me laugh how postal staff and cabin crews last year, and now bin men and traffic wardens this year, time their strikes to coincide with Bank Holidays. These guys have just had a long weekend and now are taking the rest of this week off (good weather coming guys). How many of them are actively protesting, how many are sat at home in the garden with a beer?

Guess not so Beite.You have never entered into strike action. A rota is drawn up so everyone has there share of picketing and drinking beer at home. Thats called fair. Never a Union person - stands out a mile.

You are right townieboy, in my line of work we just get on with it. I've never taken a day off sick in 26 years, and have never been on strike. Sometimes it pays not to bite the hand that feeds you. Southampton dockies will be able to tell you all about that.

What have Southampton dockies got to do with that. There hasn't been a strike there for over 27 years. I've worked in the docks for nearly 20 years, and have never been on strike. In that time we've had 5 years worth of pay freezes and compulsory redundancies. But still we didn't strike. You're talking out of ignorance.

I was referring to Southampton's biggest ever strike back in the early 80's when the docks lost business for years due to the greedy and selfish stevedores strike. I haven't had a pay rise for 4 years by the way.

30 year old news boring. You must be on a good wage or get nice bonuses to live on the same wage as 4 years ago not living day to day as most people have to these days.

I work for the council, 37 hours a week plus contractual overtime on saturdays, and i don't even break £17,000. Enough with the lazy stereotypes of greedy workers. This strike is about trying to protect the little we have not engineer a payrise. Turn your anger and bile towards the people who really deserve it and maybe we will see some justice and equality in this world.
PS. There is no enforcement of parking in the city. Some managers may be driving around carparks wearing Hi-Viz but that is just to scare you into paying. They cannot issue tickets. The Police can only issue tickets if it is a criminal offence and obstruction (parking on zigzags for example).

Brite Spark wrote:
Dustbin Hoffman?
Osama Bin Liner?

Maybe if you spent less time on here posting comments and more time working you might warrant a pay review?

Big Mac wrote:

Brite Spark wrote:
Dustbin Hoffman?
Osama Bin Liner?

Maybe if you spent less time on here posting comments and more time working you might warrant a pay review?

That's what my boss said!

loosehead wrote:

StEmmosfire wrote:
Does anybody know what traffic wardens and bin men get paid, including there good pensions and any other perks? When I worked in the Private sector I was only earning £27,000 and thats after 4 years of FE HE College in Engineering. No pension either. A lot of other people in the same situation too, I decided to since start up my own company and go contracting instead, much more rewarding financially but I would rather be a company man. What justifies a Bin man or Traffic Warden to earn such high wages? If that is the case.

Bin men do job & finish. they were timing them & the bin men were running around to finish quickly my friend asked why are you running the reply was see that man he's timing us so the quicker we do it the better .friend said but wouldn't that mean you could do more bins a day answer no we do the round & finish so any time after the time he writes down is paid in overtime! the road sweepers are on approx £20,000 so the binmen & drivers are on considerably more I've heard it was £25,000 plus all the overtime they can earn in a forty hour week.how many other people can say they're being paid overtime & only doing a forty hour week? My friend doesn't want his name printed

"Ive heard this", "My friend told me that",. "My dads brothers aunties next door neighbour thinks that".
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What complete and utter garbage you spout.
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Why not post on here some REAL facts instead of all this cr**.
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As i have said before on some of your posts....... Lies , lies and more lies.

rich the stitch wrote:

George4th wrote:
I think the Traffic Wardens do a fine job.........

Wasn't funny first time you posted the same comment.

Sorry, I forgot you have had a humour bypass..............
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P.S. Are you stalking me?!!

I expect the council workers will extend their strike action into next week once they take a look at the weather forecast.

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:

StEmmosfire wrote:
Does anybody know what traffic wardens and bin men get paid, including there good pensions and any other perks? When I worked in the Private sector I was only earning £27,000 and thats after 4 years of FE HE College in Engineering. No pension either. A lot of other people in the same situation too, I decided to since start up my own company and go contracting instead, much more rewarding financially but I would rather be a company man. What justifies a Bin man or Traffic Warden to earn such high wages? If that is the case.

Bin men do job & finish. they were timing them & the bin men were running around to finish quickly my friend asked why are you running the reply was see that man he's timing us so the quicker we do it the better .friend said but wouldn't that mean you could do more bins a day answer no we do the round & finish so any time after the time he writes down is paid in overtime! the road sweepers are on approx £20,000 so the binmen & drivers are on considerably more I've heard it was £25,000 plus all the overtime they can earn in a forty hour week.how many other people can say they're being paid overtime & only doing a forty hour week? My friend doesn't want his name printed

"Ive heard this", "My friend told me that",. "My dads brothers aunties next door neighbour thinks that".
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What complete and utter garbage you spout.
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Why not post on here some REAL facts instead of all this cr**.
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As i have said before on some of your posts....... Lies , lies and more lies.

Another bit of Loosehead genius. Read it carefully.
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"I've heard it was £25,000 plus all the overtime they can earn in a forty hour week.how many other people can say they're being paid overtime & only doing a forty hour week?"
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Question? How much overtime can anyone earn in a 40 hour week? Lets do the maths. If you work a 37 1/2 hour week I think you earn 2 1/2 hours!!
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Loosehead. Have you been down the offy again?

Condor Man wrote:
I wonder what would happen if SCC suddenly gave the parking contract to NCP? Or the bins to Veolia? basically most SCC services can be outsourced and the unions are playing with peoples pensions and conditions with this action.

Biffa and Veolia have high union membership. Bring it on!! TUPE will allow the members and agreements to transfer over. So what is your point?

"Council leader Royston Smith, pictured, said there were “robust contingency plans in place” to keep services operating. "
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This is what Smudger said in an earlier Echo article. On the 17th. Its rubbish of course. Why did the binmen go and sort out an emergency? Why cant anyone do the Civil enforcement officers jobs, not even the managers?
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I am not calling the Tory administrators liars but I cant believe a word they say!!
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Suspend the sacking of the council workforce on the 11th July and talk to the Unions. Then maybe we can have a JOINT resolution negotiated and agreed rather than the present imposed sackings and cuts.

A very good friend of mine is a Parking warden, like many others he was out of work and took the job on to support his family.
I hear of all the abuse he gets for simply trying to provide a life for his family.
Is it fair that everyday he is at work, you the public treat him and his fellow workers in such a vile manner?
You will never get rid of parking resctricions and to be honest if you really think about it we do need them.
I don't see anyone having a go at the drivers that park their cars outside school gates where it is a serious hazzard and i have seen first hand a child knocked over as they crossed between two illegally parked cars, what about all the drivers that abuse disabled badges??? this is a very common practice, and how about most of the drivers that do park and abide by the regualtions, is it fair that a few minority drivers get away with out paying???
In my opinion i think we should show the parking wardens some respect, they do more than just issue tickets!
They help members of the public, have been the first on the scene when there has been an accident, they have returned property that has been lost on the street, helped find lost children, and if your ever lost in town the chances are they will know exaxtly the location off the place you are trying to find.
I have met many of them and i can tell you they are just like the rest of us, not perfect and just trying to get through life the best they can.
If a pirvate firm took over the parking in southamtpon i can tell you they would employ the cheapest labour and the wardens would be set targets to issue as many tickests as they can and then you would all have something to moan about!!!!
From what i understand the wardens have no targets for tickets, recieve no rewards and get very little thanks from their managers!
They are not striking to get a pay rise, they are striking on behalf of all the council employees to protect what terms and conditions they have.

Ant Smoking MP wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:

StEmmosfire wrote:
Does anybody know what traffic wardens and bin men get paid, including there good pensions and any other perks? When I worked in the Private sector I was only earning £27,000 and thats after 4 years of FE HE College in Engineering. No pension either. A lot of other people in the same situation too, I decided to since start up my own company and go contracting instead, much more rewarding financially but I would rather be a company man. What justifies a Bin man or Traffic Warden to earn such high wages? If that is the case.

Bin men do job & finish. they were timing them & the bin men were running around to finish quickly my friend asked why are you running the reply was see that man he's timing us so the quicker we do it the better .friend said but wouldn't that mean you could do more bins a day answer no we do the round & finish so any time after the time he writes down is paid in overtime! the road sweepers are on approx £20,000 so the binmen & drivers are on considerably more I've heard it was £25,000 plus all the overtime they can earn in a forty hour week.how many other people can say they're being paid overtime & only doing a forty hour week? My friend doesn't want his name printed

"Ive heard this", "My friend told me that",. "My dads brothers aunties next door neighbour thinks that".
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What complete and utter garbage you spout.
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Why not post on here some REAL facts instead of all this cr**.
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As i have said before on some of your posts....... Lies , lies and more lies.

Another bit of Loosehead genius. Read it carefully.
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"I've heard it was £25,000 plus all the overtime they can earn in a forty hour week.how many other people can say they're being paid overtime & only doing a forty hour week?"
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Question? How much overtime can anyone earn in a 40 hour week? Lets do the maths. If you work a 37 1/2 hour week I think you earn 2 1/2 hours!!
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Loosehead. Have you been down the offy again?

Ant smoking I train children on Sundays so I don't usually drink but once in a while i will so stop going on about it! As you seem to think you know it all I'll let you into a secret you don't! The bin men have been timed their rounds take so many hours if after that time they are working they earn overtime & as they were literally rung when they were being timed the actual hours they have to work for basic pay is a lot less than 37 1/2 hours.to put it into even easier language a guy was moving my bins when asked wheres the lorry he stated "I've come straight here to get the bins ready so we can finish this round between 10-12.00.thyen we can work or still get two hours overtime & go home at 12.00" this was from a bin man I thought oh! a bit like the postmen use to be before management changed it so please you can come on here but please don't insult the readers intelligence by belittling every one you don't agree with! What are your Union buddies going to propose ? make the banks pay? put up the council tax ?Scrap surestarts? fortnightly collections?Do away with teachers assistants as they always taught the pupils without assistants? Any thing else you can think off? Maybe a Southy & don't accept the cuts? Please don't come on here swearing at me as the Echo has been warning people

Condor Man wrote:
I wonder what would happen if SCC suddenly gave the parking contract to NCP? Or the bins to Veolia? basically most SCC services can be outsourced and the unions are playing with peoples pensions and conditions with this action.

Have you noticed a labour party member comes on here & ridicules anything that he doesn't agree with & if you put facts to him he calls you a liar or in my case he asks if you've been drinking? Surely this shows the points you & I have been making have struck a nerve to which the left has no reply besides ridiculing us what do you think?

Make them all redundant and get private contractors to do it.

for years we,ve heard council officials deny that parking fines were just another way of making money for the council now we see it blatantly being said by the council leader Royston Smith that its"their main source of income"!!!!! then follows this statement with"I expect the majority of people not to EXPLOIT the situation and cause parking chaos. rich words indeed!!!