Cyclist claims he was knocked off bike deliberately (From Daily Echo)

.. cue forest hump and geoff51?

I don't condone the action of the motorist but why the rude 'v' sign from the cyclist? 'He believed he had the right of way'!
What if the driver had stopped and turned out to be 6ft 6ins tall and built like a brick s**t-house?

But iampuzzled, all cyclists are morally superior to motorists, and therefore he was completely justified in correcting the car driver's behaviour. After all, they all know the highway code like the backs of their hands - that's why they can afford to ignore large sections of it when they want to.

Lots of car drivers are morons. But I don't find cyclists any better, and the slightly more serious ones seem to have enormous chips on their shoulders.

10 Minute Man wrote:
But iampuzzled, all cyclists are morally superior to motorists, and therefore he was completely justified in correcting the car driver's behaviour. After all, they all know the highway code like the backs of their hands - that's why they can afford to ignore large sections of it when they want to.

Lots of car drivers are morons. But I don't find cyclists any better, and the slightly more serious ones seem to have enormous chips on their shoulders.

Agree, and I think the lesson is, don't be an abusive smart @rse when you're on a bike & doing it to a car.

Agree, and the lesson to be learnt here is...don't be an abusive smart @rse when you're on a bike & doing it to a car!

Jerry Parsons wrote:
Agree, and the lesson to be learnt here is...don't be an abusive smart @rse when you're on a bike & doing it to a car!

I wish the bloke a quick recovery and you can't justify violence, but equally I avoid picking fights with people whether I'm in the car or on the street.

I agree, but one would hope that at 43 he would have learnt some restraint or at least ready to defend the ( to be expected) results of his rude gesture.

I suspect it would be interesting to get the other side of the story.

From my recent observations neither the car nor the bike would have right of way at the Brockenhurst 'pinch points', and there are no signs.
The idea is that vehicles (and bikes) should slow until it is obvious which vehicle is either closer or one party gives way to the other.

It's quite common now for bikers to put a camera on their helmet when they are going for a ride. Whatever happened the car driver is hardly in the right for knocking the cyclist off, video evidence would have been very useful or at least it might have captured a number plate.

10 Minute Man wrote:
But iampuzzled, all cyclists are morally superior to motorists, and therefore he was completely justified in correcting the car driver's behaviour. After all, they all know the highway code like the backs of their hands - that's why they can afford to ignore large sections of it when they want to.

Lots of car drivers are morons. But I don't find cyclists any better, and the slightly more serious ones seem to have enormous chips on their shoulders.

Sorry for the delay in replying to my cue only I was busy harrassing Cyclists elsewhere.
I see however that quite a few posters have kept up the cause for me.
I do not condone the actions of the motorist but if you are on a bicycle with the top speed of about 20mph you dont give V signs to cars that can do more than 5 times that.
What I find amazing is the arrogant remark by the cyclist that he had the right of way, surely in the interest of his own safety he would give way to cars as they are bigger and heavier than him.
Thanks 10minman I thought it was only me that thought serious cyclists have chips on their shoulders, I am glad others share my view!
Cue Downfader!

Brite Spark wrote:
It's quite common now for bikers to put a camera on their helmet when they are going for a ride. Whatever happened the car driver is hardly in the right for knocking the cyclist off, video evidence would have been very useful or at least it might have captured a number plate.

Is that because they spend so much time ignoring the highway code that they have to keep video evidence if others try to do the same?

Well here I am, since I have been summoned.. (you're supposed to say my name 3 times in the mirror by the way)

Flicking the Vs is simply no reason to use a vehicle as a weapon. Perhaps some of the objectors here would like to get themselves on a bike and ride for a few miles in our shoes? You'll soon see the position and the frustration some drivers will put you in.

Perhaps he did have right of way. If one vehicle has already entered and is most of the way through then priority extends to them under the highway code. However myself and others have been in a situation where drivers will sometimes launch at you.

It should also be considered that this man can now not work. He may now be having to live off statutory sick pay, and will be receiving NHS treatment at a cost to the tax payer - all because someone wanted to exact revenge.

In the end this isnt about cyclists, or cyclists vs drivers is it. Its about a dangerous individual who is still out there.

Thats no way to speak about one of your fellow cyclists

the bigger issue here is about 'traffic calming' developments which pitch road users against each other. There was another recent case of a cyclist being punched after a flare up at a pinch-point

http://www.guardian.
co.uk/environment/bi
ke-blog/2011/jul/15/
cyclist-youtube-alle
ged-attack

Cyclists and Caravanner's should only be allowed to travel on the road between midnight and 6 am ....

geoff51 wrote:

10 Minute Man wrote: But iampuzzled, all cyclists are morally superior to motorists, and therefore he was completely justified in correcting the car driver's behaviour. After all, they all know the highway code like the backs of their hands - that's why they can afford to ignore large sections of it when they want to. Lots of car drivers are morons. But I don't find cyclists any better, and the slightly more serious ones seem to have enormous chips on their shoulders.

Sorry for the delay in replying to my cue only I was busy harrassing Cyclists elsewhere. I see however that quite a few posters have kept up the cause for me. I do not condone the actions of the motorist but if you are on a bicycle with the top speed of about 20mph you dont give V signs to cars that can do more than 5 times that. What I find amazing is the arrogant remark by the cyclist that he had the right of way, surely in the interest of his own safety he would give way to cars as they are bigger and heavier than him. Thanks 10minman I thought it was only me that thought serious cyclists have chips on their shoulders, I am glad others share my view! Cue Downfader!

What I find arrogant, geoff51, is your assumption that just because you are "bigger and heavier" then you have right of way!

Totton Tim wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

10 Minute Man wrote: But iampuzzled, all cyclists are morally superior to motorists, and therefore he was completely justified in correcting the car driver's behaviour. After all, they all know the highway code like the backs of their hands - that's why they can afford to ignore large sections of it when they want to. Lots of car drivers are morons. But I don't find cyclists any better, and the slightly more serious ones seem to have enormous chips on their shoulders.

Sorry for the delay in replying to my cue only I was busy harrassing Cyclists elsewhere. I see however that quite a few posters have kept up the cause for me. I do not condone the actions of the motorist but if you are on a bicycle with the top speed of about 20mph you dont give V signs to cars that can do more than 5 times that. What I find amazing is the arrogant remark by the cyclist that he had the right of way, surely in the interest of his own safety he would give way to cars as they are bigger and heavier than him. Thanks 10minman I thought it was only me that thought serious cyclists have chips on their shoulders, I am glad others share my view! Cue Downfader!

What I find arrogant, geoff51, is your assumption that just because you are "bigger and heavier" then you have right of way!

Why not get on bike and test out your beliefs? I've no doubt someone will set up a Facetwitter page in your memory and you'll have a little flowery shrine on the side of the road which will bring some joy to the local florist.

I'm a cyclist and a regular driver around the forest and as such have a pretty good experience of many of the roads by either mode of transport. What amazes me is the lack of consideration drivers' give me when I'm on my bike. At cattle grids and road narrowings, more than once have I had to stop quickly as cars attempt to pass either as on-coming traffic or moving in my direction. Whilst cyclists, by nature, are somewhat smaller than cars, if drivers' were faced with a 5ft wide car and not me on my bike coming the other way, would they still attempt to pass?? I doubt it.

For me there's both inconsideration and blind unawareness from the motorist. Many believe they have a right over a cyclist and not that they are equal road users. On the contrary, it's apparent when this is not the case, when a motorist is happy to wait behind you for a suitable place to pass, or gives you sufficient room in the opposite direction. Good motorist do exist, but more need to exercise this consideration. Likewise, many cyclist need to be more considerate in the way they ride.

In this case no one but those involved know the full details, but either way a motorist should never use his vehicle as a weapon.

Steady on Readman that's almost sensible. No doubt someone will reply with the usual red light jumpers, road tax and riding with no lights stuff.

If he was training on a time trial bike he could be doing close to 30mph, at this speed it's tricky to judge the speed of an approaching bike and might have contributed to the situation. Perhaps the cyclist felt a bit pee'd off with having to rapidly scrub off speed in a tight situation hence the v's ?? Am sure any road user would have been equally as annoyed.

Totton Tim wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

10 Minute Man wrote: But iampuzzled, all cyclists are morally superior to motorists, and therefore he was completely justified in correcting the car driver's behaviour. After all, they all know the highway code like the backs of their hands - that's why they can afford to ignore large sections of it when they want to. Lots of car drivers are morons. But I don't find cyclists any better, and the slightly more serious ones seem to have enormous chips on their shoulders.

Sorry for the delay in replying to my cue only I was busy harrassing Cyclists elsewhere. I see however that quite a few posters have kept up the cause for me. I do not condone the actions of the motorist but if you are on a bicycle with the top speed of about 20mph you dont give V signs to cars that can do more than 5 times that. What I find amazing is the arrogant remark by the cyclist that he had the right of way, surely in the interest of his own safety he would give way to cars as they are bigger and heavier than him. Thanks 10minman I thought it was only me that thought serious cyclists have chips on their shoulders, I am glad others share my view! Cue Downfader!

What I find arrogant, geoff51, is your assumption that just because you are "bigger and heavier" then you have right of way!

Its not arrogance, Its self preservation when you are as vulnerable to damage as a cyclist.
Think man dont trot out soundbites from the cyclist handbook

Torchie1 wrote:

Totton Tim wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

10 Minute Man wrote: But iampuzzled, all cyclists are morally superior to motorists, and therefore he was completely justified in correcting the car driver's behaviour. After all, they all know the highway code like the backs of their hands - that's why they can afford to ignore large sections of it when they want to. Lots of car drivers are morons. But I don't find cyclists any better, and the slightly more serious ones seem to have enormous chips on their shoulders.

Sorry for the delay in replying to my cue only I was busy harrassing Cyclists elsewhere. I see however that quite a few posters have kept up the cause for me. I do not condone the actions of the motorist but if you are on a bicycle with the top speed of about 20mph you dont give V signs to cars that can do more than 5 times that. What I find amazing is the arrogant remark by the cyclist that he had the right of way, surely in the interest of his own safety he would give way to cars as they are bigger and heavier than him. Thanks 10minman I thought it was only me that thought serious cyclists have chips on their shoulders, I am glad others share my view! Cue Downfader!

What I find arrogant, geoff51, is your assumption that just because you are "bigger and heavier" then you have right of way!

Why not get on bike and test out your beliefs? I've no doubt someone will set up a Facetwitter page in your memory and you'll have a little flowery shrine on the side of the road which will bring some joy to the local florist.

I would no more join the ranks of cyclists than I would drink acid, the though of joinin Lycra clad bods with massive chips on their shoulders fills me with horror.
Until Cyclists get off their high horses and not expect others to respect them whilst they are breaking the rules of the road and common sense, like not giving V signs to someone who has the benefit of size and speed, then they will always be an anathema to me

geoff51 wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

Totton Tim wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

10 Minute Man wrote: But iampuzzled, all cyclists are morally superior to motorists, and therefore he was completely justified in correcting the car driver's behaviour. After all, they all know the highway code like the backs of their hands - that's why they can afford to ignore large sections of it when they want to. Lots of car drivers are morons. But I don't find cyclists any better, and the slightly more serious ones seem to have enormous chips on their shoulders.

Sorry for the delay in replying to my cue only I was busy harrassing Cyclists elsewhere. I see however that quite a few posters have kept up the cause for me. I do not condone the actions of the motorist but if you are on a bicycle with the top speed of about 20mph you dont give V signs to cars that can do more than 5 times that. What I find amazing is the arrogant remark by the cyclist that he had the right of way, surely in the interest of his own safety he would give way to cars as they are bigger and heavier than him. Thanks 10minman I thought it was only me that thought serious cyclists have chips on their shoulders, I am glad others share my view! Cue Downfader!

What I find arrogant, geoff51, is your assumption that just because you are "bigger and heavier" then you have right of way!

Why not get on bike and test out your beliefs? I've no doubt someone will set up a Facetwitter page in your memory and you'll have a little flowery shrine on the side of the road which will bring some joy to the local florist.

I would no more join the ranks of cyclists than I would drink acid, the though of joinin Lycra clad bods with massive chips on their shoulders fills me with horror. Until Cyclists get off their high horses and not expect others to respect them whilst they are breaking the rules of the road and common sense, like not giving V signs to someone who has the benefit of size and speed, then they will always be an anathema to me

Dear oh dear, Geoff... what are we now, the local jester?

You're obviously very unobservant, try specsavers, mate, because its a fact that the majority of cyclists dont wear lycra.

But you have this fixation with men in lycra dont ya. Freud would love you to bits, hahaha!

No one is on a high horse, steel or hairy. There is a growing concern from all road users that things are getting silly. As I so often say - people just want safety, respect and consideration, something which in your bigotted myopia you'll never understand.

geoff51 wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

Totton Tim wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

10 Minute Man wrote: But iampuzzled, all cyclists are morally superior to motorists, and therefore he was completely justified in correcting the car driver's behaviour. After all, they all know the highway code like the backs of their hands - that's why they can afford to ignore large sections of it when they want to. Lots of car drivers are morons. But I don't find cyclists any better, and the slightly more serious ones seem to have enormous chips on their shoulders.

Sorry for the delay in replying to my cue only I was busy harrassing Cyclists elsewhere. I see however that quite a few posters have kept up the cause for me. I do not condone the actions of the motorist but if you are on a bicycle with the top speed of about 20mph you dont give V signs to cars that can do more than 5 times that. What I find amazing is the arrogant remark by the cyclist that he had the right of way, surely in the interest of his own safety he would give way to cars as they are bigger and heavier than him. Thanks 10minman I thought it was only me that thought serious cyclists have chips on their shoulders, I am glad others share my view! Cue Downfader!

What I find arrogant, geoff51, is your assumption that just because you are "bigger and heavier" then you have right of way!

Why not get on bike and test out your beliefs? I've no doubt someone will set up a Facetwitter page in your memory and you'll have a little flowery shrine on the side of the road which will bring some joy to the local florist.

I would no more join the ranks of cyclists than I would drink acid, the though of joinin Lycra clad bods with massive chips on their shoulders fills me with horror. Until Cyclists get off their high horses and not expect others to respect them whilst they are breaking the rules of the road and common sense, like not giving V signs to someone who has the benefit of size and speed, then they will always be an anathema to me

Sorry I'm late, I've been out harrasing cyclists. Guy I work with got knocked off his bike and broke his femur. I hope he has a speedy recovery but why ride on a busy road when there is a purpose built cycle path next to it? What is it about not using cycle paths?

forest hump wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

Totton Tim wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

10 Minute Man wrote: But iampuzzled, all cyclists are morally superior to motorists, and therefore he was completely justified in correcting the car driver's behaviour. After all, they all know the highway code like the backs of their hands - that's why they can afford to ignore large sections of it when they want to. Lots of car drivers are morons. But I don't find cyclists any better, and the slightly more serious ones seem to have enormous chips on their shoulders.

Sorry for the delay in replying to my cue only I was busy harrassing Cyclists elsewhere. I see however that quite a few posters have kept up the cause for me. I do not condone the actions of the motorist but if you are on a bicycle with the top speed of about 20mph you dont give V signs to cars that can do more than 5 times that. What I find amazing is the arrogant remark by the cyclist that he had the right of way, surely in the interest of his own safety he would give way to cars as they are bigger and heavier than him. Thanks 10minman I thought it was only me that thought serious cyclists have chips on their shoulders, I am glad others share my view! Cue Downfader!

What I find arrogant, geoff51, is your assumption that just because you are "bigger and heavier" then you have right of way!

Why not get on bike and test out your beliefs? I've no doubt someone will set up a Facetwitter page in your memory and you'll have a little flowery shrine on the side of the road which will bring some joy to the local florist.

I would no more join the ranks of cyclists than I would drink acid, the though of joinin Lycra clad bods with massive chips on their shoulders fills me with horror. Until Cyclists get off their high horses and not expect others to respect them whilst they are breaking the rules of the road and common sense, like not giving V signs to someone who has the benefit of size and speed, then they will always be an anathema to me

Sorry I'm late, I've been out harrasing cyclists. Guy I work with got knocked off his bike and broke his femur. I hope he has a speedy recovery but why ride on a busy road when there is a purpose built cycle path next to it? What is it about not using cycle paths?

You say that like its illegal.

Lets put it bluntly. Why drive on our roads and use them as cut-throughs when there is a perfectly good M27 just around the corner?

And as I've said above - have you been out on a bike and given it a go? You're in no position to judge until you do.

downfader wrote:

forest hump wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

Totton Tim wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

10 Minute Man wrote: But iampuzzled, all cyclists are morally superior to motorists, and therefore he was completely justified in correcting the car driver's behaviour. After all, they all know the highway code like the backs of their hands - that's why they can afford to ignore large sections of it when they want to. Lots of car drivers are morons. But I don't find cyclists any better, and the slightly more serious ones seem to have enormous chips on their shoulders.

Sorry for the delay in replying to my cue only I was busy harrassing Cyclists elsewhere. I see however that quite a few posters have kept up the cause for me. I do not condone the actions of the motorist but if you are on a bicycle with the top speed of about 20mph you dont give V signs to cars that can do more than 5 times that. What I find amazing is the arrogant remark by the cyclist that he had the right of way, surely in the interest of his own safety he would give way to cars as they are bigger and heavier than him. Thanks 10minman I thought it was only me that thought serious cyclists have chips on their shoulders, I am glad others share my view! Cue Downfader!

What I find arrogant, geoff51, is your assumption that just because you are "bigger and heavier" then you have right of way!

Why not get on bike and test out your beliefs? I've no doubt someone will set up a Facetwitter page in your memory and you'll have a little flowery shrine on the side of the road which will bring some joy to the local florist.

I would no more join the ranks of cyclists than I would drink acid, the though of joinin Lycra clad bods with massive chips on their shoulders fills me with horror. Until Cyclists get off their high horses and not expect others to respect them whilst they are breaking the rules of the road and common sense, like not giving V signs to someone who has the benefit of size and speed, then they will always be an anathema to me

Sorry I'm late, I've been out harrasing cyclists. Guy I work with got knocked off his bike and broke his femur. I hope he has a speedy recovery but why ride on a busy road when there is a purpose built cycle path next to it? What is it about not using cycle paths?

You say that like its illegal. Lets put it bluntly. Why drive on our roads and use them as cut-throughs when there is a perfectly good M27 just around the corner? And as I've said above - have you been out on a bike and given it a go? You're in no position to judge until you do.

Many times sunshine and your logic is a little perverse. I think self preservation would kick in perhaps? Then again....natural selection?

geoff51 wrote:

10 Minute Man wrote:
But iampuzzled, all cyclists are morally superior to motorists, and therefore he was completely justified in correcting the car driver's behaviour. After all, they all know the highway code like the backs of their hands - that's why they can afford to ignore large sections of it when they want to.

Lots of car drivers are morons. But I don't find cyclists any better, and the slightly more serious ones seem to have enormous chips on their shoulders.

Sorry for the delay in replying to my cue only I was busy harrassing Cyclists elsewhere.
I see however that quite a few posters have kept up the cause for me.
I do not condone the actions of the motorist but if you are on a bicycle with the top speed of about 20mph you dont give V signs to cars that can do more than 5 times that.
What I find amazing is the arrogant remark by the cyclist that he had the right of way, surely in the interest of his own safety he would give way to cars as they are bigger and heavier than him.
Thanks 10minman I thought it was only me that thought serious cyclists have chips on their shoulders, I am glad others share my view!
Cue Downfader!

He did have right of way: From the Highway Code

'Traffic-calming measures. On some roads there are features such as road humps, chicanes and narrowings which are intended to slow you down. When you approach these features reduce your speed. Allow cyclists and motorcyclists room to pass through them. Maintain a reduced speed along the whole of the stretch of road within the calming measures. Give way to oncoming road users if directed to do so by signs. You should not overtake other moving road users while in these areas.'

forest hump wrote:

downfader wrote:

forest hump wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

Totton Tim wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

10 Minute Man wrote: But iampuzzled, all cyclists are morally superior to motorists, and therefore he was completely justified in correcting the car driver's behaviour. After all, they all know the highway code like the backs of their hands - that's why they can afford to ignore large sections of it when they want to. Lots of car drivers are morons. But I don't find cyclists any better, and the slightly more serious ones seem to have enormous chips on their shoulders.

Sorry for the delay in replying to my cue only I was busy harrassing Cyclists elsewhere. I see however that quite a few posters have kept up the cause for me. I do not condone the actions of the motorist but if you are on a bicycle with the top speed of about 20mph you dont give V signs to cars that can do more than 5 times that. What I find amazing is the arrogant remark by the cyclist that he had the right of way, surely in the interest of his own safety he would give way to cars as they are bigger and heavier than him. Thanks 10minman I thought it was only me that thought serious cyclists have chips on their shoulders, I am glad others share my view! Cue Downfader!

What I find arrogant, geoff51, is your assumption that just because you are "bigger and heavier" then you have right of way!

Why not get on bike and test out your beliefs? I've no doubt someone will set up a Facetwitter page in your memory and you'll have a little flowery shrine on the side of the road which will bring some joy to the local florist.

I would no more join the ranks of cyclists than I would drink acid, the though of joinin Lycra clad bods with massive chips on their shoulders fills me with horror. Until Cyclists get off their high horses and not expect others to respect them whilst they are breaking the rules of the road and common sense, like not giving V signs to someone who has the benefit of size and speed, then they will always be an anathema to me

Sorry I'm late, I've been out harrasing cyclists. Guy I work with got knocked off his bike and broke his femur. I hope he has a speedy recovery but why ride on a busy road when there is a purpose built cycle path next to it? What is it about not using cycle paths?

You say that like its illegal. Lets put it bluntly. Why drive on our roads and use them as cut-throughs when there is a perfectly good M27 just around the corner? And as I've said above - have you been out on a bike and given it a go? You're in no position to judge until you do.

Many times sunshine and your logic is a little perverse. I think self preservation would kick in perhaps? Then again....natural selection?

Natural? Whats natural about cars or bikes, LOL! I think you misunderstand the theory of evolution somewhat.

downfader wrote:

forest hump wrote:

downfader wrote:

forest hump wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

Totton Tim wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

10 Minute Man wrote: But iampuzzled, all cyclists are morally superior to motorists, and therefore he was completely justified in correcting the car driver's behaviour. After all, they all know the highway code like the backs of their hands - that's why they can afford to ignore large sections of it when they want to. Lots of car drivers are morons. But I don't find cyclists any better, and the slightly more serious ones seem to have enormous chips on their shoulders.

Sorry for the delay in replying to my cue only I was busy harrassing Cyclists elsewhere. I see however that quite a few posters have kept up the cause for me. I do not condone the actions of the motorist but if you are on a bicycle with the top speed of about 20mph you dont give V signs to cars that can do more than 5 times that. What I find amazing is the arrogant remark by the cyclist that he had the right of way, surely in the interest of his own safety he would give way to cars as they are bigger and heavier than him. Thanks 10minman I thought it was only me that thought serious cyclists have chips on their shoulders, I am glad others share my view! Cue Downfader!

What I find arrogant, geoff51, is your assumption that just because you are "bigger and heavier" then you have right of way!

Why not get on bike and test out your beliefs? I've no doubt someone will set up a Facetwitter page in your memory and you'll have a little flowery shrine on the side of the road which will bring some joy to the local florist.

I would no more join the ranks of cyclists than I would drink acid, the though of joinin Lycra clad bods with massive chips on their shoulders fills me with horror. Until Cyclists get off their high horses and not expect others to respect them whilst they are breaking the rules of the road and common sense, like not giving V signs to someone who has the benefit of size and speed, then they will always be an anathema to me

Sorry I'm late, I've been out harrasing cyclists. Guy I work with got knocked off his bike and broke his femur. I hope he has a speedy recovery but why ride on a busy road when there is a purpose built cycle path next to it? What is it about not using cycle paths?

You say that like its illegal. Lets put it bluntly. Why drive on our roads and use them as cut-throughs when there is a perfectly good M27 just around the corner? And as I've said above - have you been out on a bike and given it a go? You're in no position to judge until you do.

Many times sunshine and your logic is a little perverse. I think self preservation would kick in perhaps? Then again....natural selection?

Natural? Whats natural about cars or bikes, LOL! I think you misunderstand the theory of evolution somewhat.

Natural selection is about mindset, not accessories.

forest hump wrote:

downfader wrote:

forest hump wrote:

downfader wrote:

forest hump wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

Totton Tim wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

10 Minute Man wrote: But iampuzzled, all cyclists are morally superior to motorists, and therefore he was completely justified in correcting the car driver's behaviour. After all, they all know the highway code like the backs of their hands - that's why they can afford to ignore large sections of it when they want to. Lots of car drivers are morons. But I don't find cyclists any better, and the slightly more serious ones seem to have enormous chips on their shoulders.

Sorry for the delay in replying to my cue only I was busy harrassing Cyclists elsewhere. I see however that quite a few posters have kept up the cause for me. I do not condone the actions of the motorist but if you are on a bicycle with the top speed of about 20mph you dont give V signs to cars that can do more than 5 times that. What I find amazing is the arrogant remark by the cyclist that he had the right of way, surely in the interest of his own safety he would give way to cars as they are bigger and heavier than him. Thanks 10minman I thought it was only me that thought serious cyclists have chips on their shoulders, I am glad others share my view! Cue Downfader!

What I find arrogant, geoff51, is your assumption that just because you are "bigger and heavier" then you have right of way!

Why not get on bike and test out your beliefs? I've no doubt someone will set up a Facetwitter page in your memory and you'll have a little flowery shrine on the side of the road which will bring some joy to the local florist.

I would no more join the ranks of cyclists than I would drink acid, the though of joinin Lycra clad bods with massive chips on their shoulders fills me with horror. Until Cyclists get off their high horses and not expect others to respect them whilst they are breaking the rules of the road and common sense, like not giving V signs to someone who has the benefit of size and speed, then they will always be an anathema to me

Sorry I'm late, I've been out harrasing cyclists. Guy I work with got knocked off his bike and broke his femur. I hope he has a speedy recovery but why ride on a busy road when there is a purpose built cycle path next to it? What is it about not using cycle paths?

You say that like its illegal. Lets put it bluntly. Why drive on our roads and use them as cut-throughs when there is a perfectly good M27 just around the corner? And as I've said above - have you been out on a bike and given it a go? You're in no position to judge until you do.

Many times sunshine and your logic is a little perverse. I think self preservation would kick in perhaps? Then again....natural selection?

Natural? Whats natural about cars or bikes, LOL! I think you misunderstand the theory of evolution somewhat.

Natural selection is about mindset, not accessories.

No, natural selection is about the strength or weakness of genetics. I studied microbiology at college, I have some reasonable understanding.

Your confusing the criteria of problem solving and skill (road craft) with biology

BMWDellboy wrote:
Cyclists and Caravanner's should only be allowed to travel on the road between midnight and 6 am ....

.............and only on 29th February!!