Denham to stand down as MP

Daily Echo: John Denham John Denham

SOUTHAMPTON Itchen MP John Denham will stand down at the next election, it has been announced.

The next election is expected in 2015. The Southampton Itchen seat is an ultra-marginal, with a Labour majority of just 192 in the 2010 election.

''Although I shall be standing down at the next general election, I remain totally committed to serving the people of Southampton Itchen so long as I am their MP, as I have done since my first election in 1992,'' said Mr Denham.

He said had informed Mr Miliband of his decision to leave Parliament ''some months ago'' and was quitting the shadow cabinet in order to allow the leader to appoint someone who would be able to serve as a minister in a Labour government after the election.

In his letter to the Labour leader, he wrote: ''After 30 years continuous service as an elected councillor or MP, I think I should move on whilst I still have enthusiasm for the role.

''We both agree that you would need to bring someone into the shadow cabinet who would be able to serve as minister in the next government.

''It has been a huge honour to be on Labour's front bench in government and in opposition and I have particularly enjoyed working with you over the past year as you have developed a clear, relevant and necessary vision of the way forward for Britain and for the Labour Party.

''I'm delighted that you have asked me to continue to work closely with you as your PPS and playing a full part in Labour's work inside and outside Parliament.

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10:02am Fri 7 Oct 11

StEmmosfire says...

Made enough bucks now has he. Roll in Rambo Royston at the next general election then.
Made enough bucks now has he. Roll in Rambo Royston at the next general election then. StEmmosfire

10:12am Fri 7 Oct 11

Shoong says...

Perhaps he sees Milliband as a lame duck.
Perhaps he sees Milliband as a lame duck. Shoong

10:14am Fri 7 Oct 11

Red1918 says...

Obviously got some good job lined up, but will seemingly be brown nosing till the last.Here's hoping Labour members in Southampton Itchen will actually choose a socialist to replace him, rather than this pseudo Tory, and someone who will be worthy of working people supporting.
Obviously got some good job lined up, but will seemingly be brown nosing till the last.Here's hoping Labour members in Southampton Itchen will actually choose a socialist to replace him, rather than this pseudo Tory, and someone who will be worthy of working people supporting. Red1918

10:34am Fri 7 Oct 11

LeTissiersEarLobe says...

Absolutely useless, thanks for nothing...
Get a neck !
Bye Bye, just go now
Save us 250k
Absolutely useless, thanks for nothing... Get a neck ! Bye Bye, just go now Save us 250k LeTissiersEarLobe

11:09am Fri 7 Oct 11

southy says...

Red1918 wrote:
Obviously got some good job lined up, but will seemingly be brown nosing till the last.Here's hoping Labour members in Southampton Itchen will actually choose a socialist to replace him, rather than this pseudo Tory, and someone who will be worthy of working people supporting.
Southampton Labour Party only has 2 Socialist that are Councillors, the rest are just has right wing has the Tory-Cons Party.
I think Williams have been doing some pushing, and I expect the post will go to him for the Labour Party at the next Section Comittee.
[quote][p][bold]Red1918[/bold] wrote: Obviously got some good job lined up, but will seemingly be brown nosing till the last.Here's hoping Labour members in Southampton Itchen will actually choose a socialist to replace him, rather than this pseudo Tory, and someone who will be worthy of working people supporting.[/p][/quote]Southampton Labour Party only has 2 Socialist that are Councillors, the rest are just has right wing has the Tory-Cons Party. I think Williams have been doing some pushing, and I expect the post will go to him for the Labour Party at the next Section Comittee. southy

11:21am Fri 7 Oct 11

The Watcher says...

As a Conservative Party member I have absolutely no problem thanking John Denham for his efforts and support of the City of Southampton.
.
He has been a fine MP who has served his constituency well and has often put his personal position ahead of his parties.
.
His stance over the Iraq War was honourable and time has judged him well on that one.
.
Blue or Red, he will be a hard act to follow, so thank you John.
.
(Others may feel free to continue with their political point scoring)
As a Conservative Party member I have absolutely no problem thanking John Denham for his efforts and support of the City of Southampton. . He has been a fine MP who has served his constituency well and has often put his personal position ahead of his parties. . His stance over the Iraq War was honourable and time has judged him well on that one. . Blue or Red, he will be a hard act to follow, so thank you John. . (Others may feel free to continue with their political point scoring) The Watcher

11:27am Fri 7 Oct 11

kevin007 says...

Decent guy John Denham good luck to him.Didnt see his name dragged through the mud on mps expensives
Decent guy John Denham good luck to him.Didnt see his name dragged through the mud on mps expensives kevin007

11:29am Fri 7 Oct 11

Georgieee says...

Very sad news that John will be standing down at the next election. He has served as a representative for Southampton for almost 30 years and has always put the interests of our city first.
Very sad news that John will be standing down at the next election. He has served as a representative for Southampton for almost 30 years and has always put the interests of our city first. Georgieee

11:49am Fri 7 Oct 11

10 Minute Man says...

southy wrote:
Red1918 wrote:
Obviously got some good job lined up, but will seemingly be brown nosing till the last.Here's hoping Labour members in Southampton Itchen will actually choose a socialist to replace him, rather than this pseudo Tory, and someone who will be worthy of working people supporting.
Southampton Labour Party only has 2 Socialist that are Councillors, the rest are just has right wing has the Tory-Cons Party.
I think Williams have been doing some pushing, and I expect the post will go to him for the Labour Party at the next Section Comittee.
So the democratically elected councillors aren't to your liking and...what...you're going to stamp your feet and demand someone new ? Not really how it works.

If you think people 'want' something else then get out and campaign and give them the choice. Oh wait, that has already been tried and very few people wanted the socialist candidates.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red1918[/bold] wrote: Obviously got some good job lined up, but will seemingly be brown nosing till the last.Here's hoping Labour members in Southampton Itchen will actually choose a socialist to replace him, rather than this pseudo Tory, and someone who will be worthy of working people supporting.[/p][/quote]Southampton Labour Party only has 2 Socialist that are Councillors, the rest are just has right wing has the Tory-Cons Party. I think Williams have been doing some pushing, and I expect the post will go to him for the Labour Party at the next Section Comittee.[/p][/quote]So the democratically elected councillors aren't to your liking and...what...you're going to stamp your feet and demand someone new ? Not really how it works. If you think people 'want' something else then get out and campaign and give them the choice. Oh wait, that has already been tried and very few people wanted the socialist candidates. 10 Minute Man

12:03pm Fri 7 Oct 11

Paramjit Bahia says...

southy wrote:
Red1918 wrote:
Obviously got some good job lined up, but will seemingly be brown nosing till the last.Here's hoping Labour members in Southampton Itchen will actually choose a socialist to replace him, rather than this pseudo Tory, and someone who will be worthy of working people supporting.
Southampton Labour Party only has 2 Socialist that are Councillors, the rest are just has right wing has the Tory-Cons Party.
I think Williams have been doing some pushing, and I expect the post will go to him for the Labour Party at the next Section Comittee.
I know that Southy doesn’t smoke pot, so am wondering about the cause of his hallucinations; imagining two socialist councillors in Southampton
.
Couple of hard working people may be, but socialists… Not likely
.
In my view politically Denham has always been very dodgy, but is very clever man who has always worked hard for helping the people he represented in their case work, his predecessor Conservative Chris Chope was also good at that and was honest enough to be a Tory instead be being closet Conservative like most in NuLabour these days
.
Extremely flexible and opportunist Denham has extra ordinary ability of knowing the shape of future developments, so often ends up jumping on the correct side. Could it be that he has worked out that NuLabour ship, which is full of traitors of working class, is turning now into Titanic so has jumped at the right time?
.
I am sure he will find some very good and easy earner somewhere else very soon.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red1918[/bold] wrote: Obviously got some good job lined up, but will seemingly be brown nosing till the last.Here's hoping Labour members in Southampton Itchen will actually choose a socialist to replace him, rather than this pseudo Tory, and someone who will be worthy of working people supporting.[/p][/quote]Southampton Labour Party only has 2 Socialist that are Councillors, the rest are just has right wing has the Tory-Cons Party. I think Williams have been doing some pushing, and I expect the post will go to him for the Labour Party at the next Section Comittee.[/p][/quote]I know that Southy doesn’t smoke pot, so am wondering about the cause of his hallucinations; imagining two socialist councillors in Southampton . Couple of hard working people may be, but socialists… Not likely . In my view politically Denham has always been very dodgy, but is very clever man who has always worked hard for helping the people he represented in their case work, his predecessor Conservative Chris Chope was also good at that and was honest enough to be a Tory instead be being closet Conservative like most in NuLabour these days . Extremely flexible and opportunist Denham has extra ordinary ability of knowing the shape of future developments, so often ends up jumping on the correct side. Could it be that he has worked out that NuLabour ship, which is full of traitors of working class, is turning now into Titanic so has jumped at the right time? . I am sure he will find some very good and easy earner somewhere else very soon. Paramjit Bahia

12:12pm Fri 7 Oct 11

Phantomdoll says...

That man didn't bother with Southampton while he was in the last Labour cabinet. Couldn't even bother to answer constituents' e-mails. Panicked when Royston Smith brought Denham's 9000 majority down to 192, spent a lot of time trying to look statesmanlike this last year,didn't work. So - hoppit!
That man didn't bother with Southampton while he was in the last Labour cabinet. Couldn't even bother to answer constituents' e-mails. Panicked when Royston Smith brought Denham's 9000 majority down to 192, spent a lot of time trying to look statesmanlike this last year,didn't work. So - hoppit! Phantomdoll

12:15pm Fri 7 Oct 11

Phantomdoll says...

The Watcher wrote:
As a Conservative Party member I have absolutely no problem thanking John Denham for his efforts and support of the City of Southampton.
.
He has been a fine MP who has served his constituency well and has often put his personal position ahead of his parties.
.
His stance over the Iraq War was honourable and time has judged him well on that one.
.
Blue or Red, he will be a hard act to follow, so thank you John.
.
(Others may feel free to continue with their political point scoring)
Glad to see that satire is alive and kicking in Southampton!
[quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: As a Conservative Party member I have absolutely no problem thanking John Denham for his efforts and support of the City of Southampton. . He has been a fine MP who has served his constituency well and has often put his personal position ahead of his parties. . His stance over the Iraq War was honourable and time has judged him well on that one. . Blue or Red, he will be a hard act to follow, so thank you John. . (Others may feel free to continue with their political point scoring)[/p][/quote]Glad to see that satire is alive and kicking in Southampton! Phantomdoll

12:19pm Fri 7 Oct 11

southy says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
southy wrote:
Red1918 wrote:
Obviously got some good job lined up, but will seemingly be brown nosing till the last.Here's hoping Labour members in Southampton Itchen will actually choose a socialist to replace him, rather than this pseudo Tory, and someone who will be worthy of working people supporting.
Southampton Labour Party only has 2 Socialist that are Councillors, the rest are just has right wing has the Tory-Cons Party.
I think Williams have been doing some pushing, and I expect the post will go to him for the Labour Party at the next Section Comittee.
I know that Southy doesn’t smoke pot, so am wondering about the cause of his hallucinations; imagining two socialist councillors in Southampton
.
Couple of hard working people may be, but socialists… Not likely
.
In my view politically Denham has always been very dodgy, but is very clever man who has always worked hard for helping the people he represented in their case work, his predecessor Conservative Chris Chope was also good at that and was honest enough to be a Tory instead be being closet Conservative like most in NuLabour these days
.
Extremely flexible and opportunist Denham has extra ordinary ability of knowing the shape of future developments, so often ends up jumping on the correct side. Could it be that he has worked out that NuLabour ship, which is full of traitors of working class, is turning now into Titanic so has jumped at the right time?
.
I am sure he will find some very good and easy earner somewhere else very soon.
Maybe he planning to join the TUSC seeing into the future, and the only way for the TUSC is up. And Labour direction is down.
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red1918[/bold] wrote: Obviously got some good job lined up, but will seemingly be brown nosing till the last.Here's hoping Labour members in Southampton Itchen will actually choose a socialist to replace him, rather than this pseudo Tory, and someone who will be worthy of working people supporting.[/p][/quote]Southampton Labour Party only has 2 Socialist that are Councillors, the rest are just has right wing has the Tory-Cons Party. I think Williams have been doing some pushing, and I expect the post will go to him for the Labour Party at the next Section Comittee.[/p][/quote]I know that Southy doesn’t smoke pot, so am wondering about the cause of his hallucinations; imagining two socialist councillors in Southampton . Couple of hard working people may be, but socialists… Not likely . In my view politically Denham has always been very dodgy, but is very clever man who has always worked hard for helping the people he represented in their case work, his predecessor Conservative Chris Chope was also good at that and was honest enough to be a Tory instead be being closet Conservative like most in NuLabour these days . Extremely flexible and opportunist Denham has extra ordinary ability of knowing the shape of future developments, so often ends up jumping on the correct side. Could it be that he has worked out that NuLabour ship, which is full of traitors of working class, is turning now into Titanic so has jumped at the right time? . I am sure he will find some very good and easy earner somewhere else very soon.[/p][/quote]Maybe he planning to join the TUSC seeing into the future, and the only way for the TUSC is up. And Labour direction is down. southy

12:21pm Fri 7 Oct 11

Maine Lobster says...

The Watcher wrote:
As a Conservative Party member I have absolutely no problem thanking John Denham for his efforts and support of the City of Southampton.
.
He has been a fine MP who has served his constituency well and has often put his personal position ahead of his parties.
.
His stance over the Iraq War was honourable and time has judged him well on that one.
.
Blue or Red, he will be a hard act to follow, so thank you John.
.
(Others may feel free to continue with their political point scoring)
What a refreshing and objective comment from this poster, despite coming from a different side of the political fence.
I agree Mr Denham's stance on Iraq was commendable. M.P's on both sides of the house could learn lessons there!
[quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: As a Conservative Party member I have absolutely no problem thanking John Denham for his efforts and support of the City of Southampton. . He has been a fine MP who has served his constituency well and has often put his personal position ahead of his parties. . His stance over the Iraq War was honourable and time has judged him well on that one. . Blue or Red, he will be a hard act to follow, so thank you John. . (Others may feel free to continue with their political point scoring)[/p][/quote]What a refreshing and objective comment from this poster, despite coming from a different side of the political fence. I agree Mr Denham's stance on Iraq was commendable. M.P's on both sides of the house could learn lessons there! Maine Lobster

12:36pm Fri 7 Oct 11

loosehead says...

Good riddance to bad rubbish! served his constituency fought for this city what utter bull==it.it doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with cigarettes or alcohol if your going to lose 2,000 well paid jobs from your city you fight for them he wouldn't, When Labour stole money from this city to give to the North he should have fought to keep it here he wouldn't.his stance on Iraq had nothing to do with the large Muslim vote in this city then? Get it right this man looked after number one he would be against a subject ( Academies) if the tories proposed it ( council) but for it if a tory government was going to scrap it. did he fight for the redevelopment of Thornhill? No this man along with his buddie Whitehead looked out for number one & stuff the plebs who voted for him ( them). good riddance & try working in your next job
Good riddance to bad rubbish! served his constituency fought for this city what utter bull==it.it doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with cigarettes or alcohol if your going to lose 2,000 well paid jobs from your city you fight for them he wouldn't, When Labour stole money from this city to give to the North he should have fought to keep it here he wouldn't.his stance on Iraq had nothing to do with the large Muslim vote in this city then? Get it right this man looked after number one he would be against a subject ( Academies) if the tories proposed it ( council) but for it if a tory government was going to scrap it. did he fight for the redevelopment of Thornhill? No this man along with his buddie Whitehead looked out for number one & stuff the plebs who voted for him ( them). good riddance & try working in your next job loosehead

12:38pm Fri 7 Oct 11

Paramjit Bahia says...

Red1918 wrote:
Obviously got some good job lined up, but will seemingly be brown nosing till the last.Here's hoping Labour members in Southampton Itchen will actually choose a socialist to replace him, rather than this pseudo Tory, and someone who will be worthy of working people supporting.
Where will they find a socialist in party that has betrayed virtually all the good ‘Labour values’ and is full of closet Conservatives, or suffering from contamination because of associations with lowest form of political life -- the Lib-Dems --both in Hampshire County Council and in Southampton?
.
Although ideally I will like somebody from some socialist groupings or the Greens to succeed in Southampton Itchen, from Conservatised NuLabour point of view it is likely Alan Lloyd (I am sure Red1918 knows him) could be a winning formula. Because as councillor he used to work even harder than Denham (standard difficult to match) for his constituents and in fact is very able and intelligent and presentable person
.
Selection of nakedly ambitious anti workers Williams who is likely to have full support of Denham fans and something affectionately known as ‘Junction Mafia’ could turn out to be total disaster not only for their party but also for people of Southampton Itchen
.
Having said that I must make it clear that for all my sins former Councillor Alan Lloyd remains my valued friend and my views are not coloured because of that. We do not agree on many things. For example I openly opposed him leading Labour in the arms of Lib-Dems in Hampshire and keep on criticising him for staying the loyal member of Conservatised mob of Millband called New Labour
.
So NuLabour overlooking Alan Lloyd could end up paying the same price, which they did when they ditched him as their councillor in Harefield, and guess who the winner was?...... Royston Smith
[quote][p][bold]Red1918[/bold] wrote: Obviously got some good job lined up, but will seemingly be brown nosing till the last.Here's hoping Labour members in Southampton Itchen will actually choose a socialist to replace him, rather than this pseudo Tory, and someone who will be worthy of working people supporting.[/p][/quote]Where will they find a socialist in party that has betrayed virtually all the good ‘Labour values’ and is full of closet Conservatives, or suffering from contamination because of associations with lowest form of political life -- the Lib-Dems --both in Hampshire County Council and in Southampton? . Although ideally I will like somebody from some socialist groupings or the Greens to succeed in Southampton Itchen, from Conservatised NuLabour point of view it is likely Alan Lloyd (I am sure Red1918 knows him) could be a winning formula. Because as councillor he used to work even harder than Denham (standard difficult to match) for his constituents and in fact is very able and intelligent and presentable person . Selection of nakedly ambitious anti workers Williams who is likely to have full support of Denham fans and something affectionately known as ‘Junction Mafia’ could turn out to be total disaster not only for their party but also for people of Southampton Itchen . Having said that I must make it clear that for all my sins former Councillor Alan Lloyd remains my valued friend and my views are not coloured because of that. We do not agree on many things. For example I openly opposed him leading Labour in the arms of Lib-Dems in Hampshire and keep on criticising him for staying the loyal member of Conservatised mob of Millband called New Labour . So NuLabour overlooking Alan Lloyd could end up paying the same price, which they did when they ditched him as their councillor in Harefield, and guess who the winner was?...... Royston Smith Paramjit Bahia

12:49pm Fri 7 Oct 11

Paramjit Bahia says...

southy wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
southy wrote:
Red1918 wrote:
Obviously got some good job lined up, but will seemingly be brown nosing till the last.Here's hoping Labour members in Southampton Itchen will actually choose a socialist to replace him, rather than this pseudo Tory, and someone who will be worthy of working people supporting.
Southampton Labour Party only has 2 Socialist that are Councillors, the rest are just has right wing has the Tory-Cons Party.
I think Williams have been doing some pushing, and I expect the post will go to him for the Labour Party at the next Section Comittee.
I know that Southy doesn’t smoke pot, so am wondering about the cause of his hallucinations; imagining two socialist councillors in Southampton
.
Couple of hard working people may be, but socialists… Not likely
.
In my view politically Denham has always been very dodgy, but is very clever man who has always worked hard for helping the people he represented in their case work, his predecessor Conservative Chris Chope was also good at that and was honest enough to be a Tory instead be being closet Conservative like most in NuLabour these days
.
Extremely flexible and opportunist Denham has extra ordinary ability of knowing the shape of future developments, so often ends up jumping on the correct side. Could it be that he has worked out that NuLabour ship, which is full of traitors of working class, is turning now into Titanic so has jumped at the right time?
.
I am sure he will find some very good and easy earner somewhere else very soon.
Maybe he planning to join the TUSC seeing into the future, and the only way for the TUSC is up. And Labour direction is down.
Many years ago Militants made the mistake of supporting him in selection against Bryan Gould, I hope now they in form of TUSC will not repeat that by accepting politically most inconsistent man in TUSC.
And take my word for it, if you allow him in TUSC with his record in Thatcherised Labour government only way for TUSC will be down as well. So please avoid him
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red1918[/bold] wrote: Obviously got some good job lined up, but will seemingly be brown nosing till the last.Here's hoping Labour members in Southampton Itchen will actually choose a socialist to replace him, rather than this pseudo Tory, and someone who will be worthy of working people supporting.[/p][/quote]Southampton Labour Party only has 2 Socialist that are Councillors, the rest are just has right wing has the Tory-Cons Party. I think Williams have been doing some pushing, and I expect the post will go to him for the Labour Party at the next Section Comittee.[/p][/quote]I know that Southy doesn’t smoke pot, so am wondering about the cause of his hallucinations; imagining two socialist councillors in Southampton . Couple of hard working people may be, but socialists… Not likely . In my view politically Denham has always been very dodgy, but is very clever man who has always worked hard for helping the people he represented in their case work, his predecessor Conservative Chris Chope was also good at that and was honest enough to be a Tory instead be being closet Conservative like most in NuLabour these days . Extremely flexible and opportunist Denham has extra ordinary ability of knowing the shape of future developments, so often ends up jumping on the correct side. Could it be that he has worked out that NuLabour ship, which is full of traitors of working class, is turning now into Titanic so has jumped at the right time? . I am sure he will find some very good and easy earner somewhere else very soon.[/p][/quote]Maybe he planning to join the TUSC seeing into the future, and the only way for the TUSC is up. And Labour direction is down.[/p][/quote]Many years ago Militants made the mistake of supporting him in selection against Bryan Gould, I hope now they in form of TUSC will not repeat that by accepting politically most inconsistent man in TUSC. And take my word for it, if you allow him in TUSC with his record in Thatcherised Labour government only way for TUSC will be down as well. So please avoid him Paramjit Bahia

1:12pm Fri 7 Oct 11

Voice of Concern says...

Oh Royston will be chuffed, what with John going and the proposed boundary changes to lump the Bitterne ward in with Hamble and Hedge End Royston will probably get elected to John's seat,,,,god help us if he does
Oh Royston will be chuffed, what with John going and the proposed boundary changes to lump the Bitterne ward in with Hamble and Hedge End Royston will probably get elected to John's seat,,,,god help us if he does Voice of Concern

1:33pm Fri 7 Oct 11

southy says...

Voice of Concern wrote:
Oh Royston will be chuffed, what with John going and the proposed boundary changes to lump the Bitterne ward in with Hamble and Hedge End Royston will probably get elected to John's seat,,,,god help us if he does
I not to sure if if the torys will improve they are losing support to UKIP.
And it will not matter if its a Tory mp or a Labour one it still be god help is all, because there is no difference between the two
[quote][p][bold]Voice of Concern[/bold] wrote: Oh Royston will be chuffed, what with John going and the proposed boundary changes to lump the Bitterne ward in with Hamble and Hedge End Royston will probably get elected to John's seat,,,,god help us if he does[/p][/quote]I not to sure if if the torys will improve they are losing support to UKIP. And it will not matter if its a Tory mp or a Labour one it still be god help is all, because there is no difference between the two southy

1:59pm Fri 7 Oct 11

Condor Man says...

After yearly 20 years it's probably best to quite whilst your ever so slightly ahead. He's got a young lad, I expect he wants to spend more time at home. I had time for his stance on Iraq, probably didn't help his career. Probably not ministerial quality but doesn't fancy the back bench wilderness occupied by his neighbour. From a personal perpective I hope the Itchen Tories bring in a Cameron Cutie in the mould of Louise Bagshaw. That would be a vote winner.
After yearly 20 years it's probably best to quite whilst your ever so slightly ahead. He's got a young lad, I expect he wants to spend more time at home. I had time for his stance on Iraq, probably didn't help his career. Probably not ministerial quality but doesn't fancy the back bench wilderness occupied by his neighbour. From a personal perpective I hope the Itchen Tories bring in a Cameron Cutie in the mould of Louise Bagshaw. That would be a vote winner. Condor Man

2:08pm Fri 7 Oct 11

southy says...

Condor Man wrote:
After yearly 20 years it's probably best to quite whilst your ever so slightly ahead. He's got a young lad, I expect he wants to spend more time at home. I had time for his stance on Iraq, probably didn't help his career. Probably not ministerial quality but doesn't fancy the back bench wilderness occupied by his neighbour. From a personal perpective I hope the Itchen Tories bring in a Cameron Cutie in the mould of Louise Bagshaw. That would be a vote winner.
You don't want cuties to often those that look good can't do the job, it takes more than being a pretty face.
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: After yearly 20 years it's probably best to quite whilst your ever so slightly ahead. He's got a young lad, I expect he wants to spend more time at home. I had time for his stance on Iraq, probably didn't help his career. Probably not ministerial quality but doesn't fancy the back bench wilderness occupied by his neighbour. From a personal perpective I hope the Itchen Tories bring in a Cameron Cutie in the mould of Louise Bagshaw. That would be a vote winner.[/p][/quote]You don't want cuties to often those that look good can't do the job, it takes more than being a pretty face. southy

2:13pm Fri 7 Oct 11

Condor Man says...

Southy, an Oxbridge educated 'cutie' is just what parliament is getting at the moment. The days of ordinary folk like Jack Ashley or even John Major getting into parliament is long gone.
Southy, an Oxbridge educated 'cutie' is just what parliament is getting at the moment. The days of ordinary folk like Jack Ashley or even John Major getting into parliament is long gone. Condor Man

2:15pm Fri 7 Oct 11

Condor Man says...

Southy, an Oxbridge educated 'cutie' is just what parliament is getting at the moment. The days of ordinary folk like Jack Ashley or even John Major getting into parliament is long gone.
Southy, an Oxbridge educated 'cutie' is just what parliament is getting at the moment. The days of ordinary folk like Jack Ashley or even John Major getting into parliament is long gone. Condor Man

2:19pm Fri 7 Oct 11

MGRA says...

Denham started off as a hard working local MP who had genuine motives. Of late he had become bloated with self importance and misjudged political dogma. Having said that he was still "a good egg" as they say and I still think he will affectionately thought of. The trouble with the labour party is that you have to find your "camp" within it and stick with them till the end.... He certainly does realise Miliband is a dead duck, thats pretty obvious but then again so does the nation.
Denham started off as a hard working local MP who had genuine motives. Of late he had become bloated with self importance and misjudged political dogma. Having said that he was still "a good egg" as they say and I still think he will affectionately thought of. The trouble with the labour party is that you have to find your "camp" within it and stick with them till the end.... He certainly does realise Miliband is a dead duck, thats pretty obvious but then again so does the nation. MGRA

2:30pm Fri 7 Oct 11

Piano Man says...

Mr Denham was happy to turn up as a guest to the opening of a partly Lottery-funded play area on a Sunday afternoon earlier this year when he might well have had other things to do, especially as he didn't stand to gain politically from it. He also took the trouble to answer the one letter I have written to him. My only two experiences of him as a constituency MP, both positive. He also resigned over the invasion of Iraq, an action hardly likely to endear him to the Labour top brass at the time. I think the City will miss having a high-profile figure as one of its MPs and wish him the best for the future.
Mr Denham was happy to turn up as a guest to the opening of a partly Lottery-funded play area on a Sunday afternoon earlier this year when he might well have had other things to do, especially as he didn't stand to gain politically from it. He also took the trouble to answer the one letter I have written to him. My only two experiences of him as a constituency MP, both positive. He also resigned over the invasion of Iraq, an action hardly likely to endear him to the Labour top brass at the time. I think the City will miss having a high-profile figure as one of its MPs and wish him the best for the future. Piano Man

2:31pm Fri 7 Oct 11

SpittingMoreFire says...

The Watcher wrote:
As a Conservative Party member I have absolutely no problem thanking John Denham for his efforts and support of the City of Southampton.
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He has been a fine MP who has served his constituency well and has often put his personal position ahead of his parties.
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His stance over the Iraq War was honourable and time has judged him well on that one.
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Blue or Red, he will be a hard act to follow, so thank you John.
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(Others may feel free to continue with their political point scoring)
At last! A respectable comment on here for a change. Well said.
[quote][p][bold]The Watcher[/bold] wrote: As a Conservative Party member I have absolutely no problem thanking John Denham for his efforts and support of the City of Southampton. . He has been a fine MP who has served his constituency well and has often put his personal position ahead of his parties. . His stance over the Iraq War was honourable and time has judged him well on that one. . Blue or Red, he will be a hard act to follow, so thank you John. . (Others may feel free to continue with their political point scoring)[/p][/quote]At last! A respectable comment on here for a change. Well said. SpittingMoreFire

3:02pm Fri 7 Oct 11

southy says...

Condor Man wrote:
Southy, an Oxbridge educated 'cutie' is just what parliament is getting at the moment. The days of ordinary folk like Jack Ashley or even John Major getting into parliament is long gone.
No its not what we need, its ordinary people we need to run government and not those who have very narrow minds that work on short term and never long term, they are to blind.
Why do you think we are in this mess now that we are in, its because people in charge are to narrow minded and only think one way and can not change has condition change.
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: Southy, an Oxbridge educated 'cutie' is just what parliament is getting at the moment. The days of ordinary folk like Jack Ashley or even John Major getting into parliament is long gone.[/p][/quote]No its not what we need, its ordinary people we need to run government and not those who have very narrow minds that work on short term and never long term, they are to blind. Why do you think we are in this mess now that we are in, its because people in charge are to narrow minded and only think one way and can not change has condition change. southy

3:03pm Fri 7 Oct 11

southy says...

Condor Man wrote:
Southy, an Oxbridge educated 'cutie' is just what parliament is getting at the moment. The days of ordinary folk like Jack Ashley or even John Major getting into parliament is long gone.
No its not what we need, its ordinary people we need to run government and not those who have very narrow minds that work on short term and never long term, they are to blind.
Why do you think we are in this mess now that we are in, its because people in charge are to narrow minded and only think one way and can not change has condition change.
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: Southy, an Oxbridge educated 'cutie' is just what parliament is getting at the moment. The days of ordinary folk like Jack Ashley or even John Major getting into parliament is long gone.[/p][/quote]No its not what we need, its ordinary people we need to run government and not those who have very narrow minds that work on short term and never long term, they are to blind. Why do you think we are in this mess now that we are in, its because people in charge are to narrow minded and only think one way and can not change has condition change. southy

3:13pm Fri 7 Oct 11

Condor Man says...

Southy, the only PM to give 'ordinary' people a chance was Maggie. The likes of Norman Tebbit, Cecil Parkinson and John Major replaced the wets. Blair only had a token working class person in the case of Prescott in government. Sadly a child on your estate will never be educated to the standard required in modern politics.
Southy, the only PM to give 'ordinary' people a chance was Maggie. The likes of Norman Tebbit, Cecil Parkinson and John Major replaced the wets. Blair only had a token working class person in the case of Prescott in government. Sadly a child on your estate will never be educated to the standard required in modern politics. Condor Man

4:13pm Fri 7 Oct 11

resident in southampton east says...

loosehead wrote:
Good riddance to bad rubbish! served his constituency fought for this city what utter bull==it.it doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with cigarettes or alcohol if your going to lose 2,000 well paid jobs from your city you fight for them he wouldn't, When Labour stole money from this city to give to the North he should have fought to keep it here he wouldn't.his stance on Iraq had nothing to do with the large Muslim vote in this city then? Get it right this man looked after number one he would be against a subject ( Academies) if the tories proposed it ( council) but for it if a tory government was going to scrap it. did he fight for the redevelopment of Thornhill? No this man along with his buddie Whitehead looked out for number one & stuff the plebs who voted for him ( them). good riddance & try working in your next job
wonder if he will join your mate Royston Smith on the council.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Good riddance to bad rubbish! served his constituency fought for this city what utter bull==it.it doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with cigarettes or alcohol if your going to lose 2,000 well paid jobs from your city you fight for them he wouldn't, When Labour stole money from this city to give to the North he should have fought to keep it here he wouldn't.his stance on Iraq had nothing to do with the large Muslim vote in this city then? Get it right this man looked after number one he would be against a subject ( Academies) if the tories proposed it ( council) but for it if a tory government was going to scrap it. did he fight for the redevelopment of Thornhill? No this man along with his buddie Whitehead looked out for number one & stuff the plebs who voted for him ( them). good riddance & try working in your next job[/p][/quote]wonder if he will join your mate Royston Smith on the council. resident in southampton east

4:33pm Fri 7 Oct 11

MGRA says...

southy wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
Southy, an Oxbridge educated 'cutie' is just what parliament is getting at the moment. The days of ordinary folk like Jack Ashley or even John Major getting into parliament is long gone.
No its not what we need, its ordinary people we need to run government and not those who have very narrow minds that work on short term and never long term, they are to blind.
Why do you think we are in this mess now that we are in, its because people in charge are to narrow minded and only think one way and can not change has condition change.
true... well said southy ! (pinches oneself).
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: Southy, an Oxbridge educated 'cutie' is just what parliament is getting at the moment. The days of ordinary folk like Jack Ashley or even John Major getting into parliament is long gone.[/p][/quote]No its not what we need, its ordinary people we need to run government and not those who have very narrow minds that work on short term and never long term, they are to blind. Why do you think we are in this mess now that we are in, its because people in charge are to narrow minded and only think one way and can not change has condition change.[/p][/quote]true... well said southy ! (pinches oneself). MGRA

5:01pm Fri 7 Oct 11

SpittingMoreFire says...

Condor Man:
Sadly a child on your estate will never be educated to the standard required in modern politics.

I'm not sure that former front runner for leadership of the Conservative Party David Davis MP would quite agree with you there, CM...
Condor Man: [quote]Sadly a child on your estate will never be educated to the standard required in modern politics.[/quote] I'm not sure that former front runner for leadership of the Conservative Party David Davis MP would quite agree with you there, CM... SpittingMoreFire

5:06pm Fri 7 Oct 11

SpittingMoreFire says...

southy wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
After yearly 20 years it's probably best to quite whilst your ever so slightly ahead. He's got a young lad, I expect he wants to spend more time at home. I had time for his stance on Iraq, probably didn't help his career. Probably not ministerial quality but doesn't fancy the back bench wilderness occupied by his neighbour. From a personal perpective I hope the Itchen Tories bring in a Cameron Cutie in the mould of Louise Bagshaw. That would be a vote winner.
You don't want cuties to often those that look good can't do the job, it takes more than being a pretty face.
Oh that reminds me of her great gaffe when she said to Rupert Murdoch that he had said that it had been the most shameful day of his life in going before the Select Committee - or something to that effect. Was that deliberate? Probably not, but how legendary!

Oh, but then there was her Piers Morgan slip-up too... that wasn't so great.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: After yearly 20 years it's probably best to quite whilst your ever so slightly ahead. He's got a young lad, I expect he wants to spend more time at home. I had time for his stance on Iraq, probably didn't help his career. Probably not ministerial quality but doesn't fancy the back bench wilderness occupied by his neighbour. From a personal perpective I hope the Itchen Tories bring in a Cameron Cutie in the mould of Louise Bagshaw. That would be a vote winner.[/p][/quote]You don't want cuties to often those that look good can't do the job, it takes more than being a pretty face.[/p][/quote]Oh that reminds me of her great gaffe when she said to Rupert Murdoch that he had said that it had been the most shameful day of his life in going before the Select Committee - or something to that effect. Was that deliberate? Probably not, but how legendary! Oh, but then there was her Piers Morgan slip-up too... that wasn't so great. SpittingMoreFire

5:23pm Fri 7 Oct 11

Bagamn says...

Perhaps it would be better if we had someone who has had ten years in a proper job before going into politics. Half these twits that are in the government wouldn't know one end of a spanner from the other. It's alright being an Eton millionaire, but it doesn't give you the savvy to rule a country.
Perhaps it would be better if we had someone who has had ten years in a proper job before going into politics. Half these twits that are in the government wouldn't know one end of a spanner from the other. It's alright being an Eton millionaire, but it doesn't give you the savvy to rule a country. Bagamn

5:24pm Fri 7 Oct 11

IronLady2010 says...

I hope he replies to my letter I sent 5 weeks ago before he steps down!
I hope he replies to my letter I sent 5 weeks ago before he steps down! IronLady2010

5:26pm Fri 7 Oct 11

IronLady2010 says...

Condor Man wrote:
Southy, the only PM to give 'ordinary' people a chance was Maggie. The likes of Norman Tebbit, Cecil Parkinson and John Major replaced the wets. Blair only had a token working class person in the case of Prescott in government. Sadly a child on your estate will never be educated to the standard required in modern politics.
I have a soft spot for Maggie, she had a backbone unlike the current bunch.
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: Southy, the only PM to give 'ordinary' people a chance was Maggie. The likes of Norman Tebbit, Cecil Parkinson and John Major replaced the wets. Blair only had a token working class person in the case of Prescott in government. Sadly a child on your estate will never be educated to the standard required in modern politics.[/p][/quote]I have a soft spot for Maggie, she had a backbone unlike the current bunch. IronLady2010

5:29pm Fri 7 Oct 11

chrisdemeanour says...

So sorry he is leaving at the next election, please go NOW! byeeee.
So sorry he is leaving at the next election, please go NOW! byeeee. chrisdemeanour

6:07pm Fri 7 Oct 11

Condor Man says...

SpittingMoreFire wrote:
Condor Man:
Sadly a child on your estate will never be educated to the standard required in modern politics.

I'm not sure that former front runner for leadership of the Conservative Party David Davis MP would quite agree with you there, CM...
Davis was fortunate enough (as Denham was) to go to a Grammar School. William Hague and Ed Milliband aside few politicians now went to Comprehensives. Davis wears his heart on his sleeve, perhaps that's why he's on the back benches.
[quote][p][bold]SpittingMoreFire[/bold] wrote: Condor Man: [quote]Sadly a child on your estate will never be educated to the standard required in modern politics.[/quote] I'm not sure that former front runner for leadership of the Conservative Party David Davis MP would quite agree with you there, CM...[/p][/quote]Davis was fortunate enough (as Denham was) to go to a Grammar School. William Hague and Ed Milliband aside few politicians now went to Comprehensives. Davis wears his heart on his sleeve, perhaps that's why he's on the back benches. Condor Man

7:37pm Fri 7 Oct 11

geoff51 says...

I am surpised that with his massive? majority he did not get the hint that he was not wanted.
He has been about as much use to the people of Southampton as a chocolate fireguard.
Go now pal whilst someone still remembers your name unlike your invisible mate Whitehead
I am surpised that with his massive? majority he did not get the hint that he was not wanted. He has been about as much use to the people of Southampton as a chocolate fireguard. Go now pal whilst someone still remembers your name unlike your invisible mate Whitehead geoff51

9:17pm Fri 7 Oct 11

loosehead says...

I read he appeared at a playground with no political gain ? sorry but yes he did just for the local people to see him is electioneering.Piano man I & many of my follow workers wrote to him no reply I went to several meetings where Whitehead was attending for him to not answer & then refuse to take any questions about my company. I bet if you looked back at the history of visits to this city by our Labour MP's it would mysteriously increase just before an election.There were many cases when both these MP's could have stood up for this city but declined to do so especially Denham in his position in the Labour Government. Personally if I was voted in as an MP for a city I would do the utmost to protect my voters not just tow the party line. I find it very dubious he votes against Iraq stands down for Iraq yet can't put up an argument for this city don't we count in his world? Answer me this when Tony Blair asked Oasis to set up Academies & started the Academy program did Denham kick up? when the Tory council wanted to set up two academies run by Oasis did Denham kick up against it? ( yes) when michael Goves said he was looking at all applications for Academy status did Denham not kick up about the Tories taking away our childrens future by not allowing the Academy? this guy hasn't defended this city & changed his principles over night GOOD RIDDANCE to him.
I read he appeared at a playground with no political gain ? sorry but yes he did just for the local people to see him is electioneering.Piano man I & many of my follow workers wrote to him no reply I went to several meetings where Whitehead was attending for him to not answer & then refuse to take any questions about my company. I bet if you looked back at the history of visits to this city by our Labour MP's it would mysteriously increase just before an election.There were many cases when both these MP's could have stood up for this city but declined to do so especially Denham in his position in the Labour Government. Personally if I was voted in as an MP for a city I would do the utmost to protect my voters not just tow the party line. I find it very dubious he votes against Iraq stands down for Iraq yet can't put up an argument for this city don't we count in his world? Answer me this when Tony Blair asked Oasis to set up Academies & started the Academy program did Denham kick up? when the Tory council wanted to set up two academies run by Oasis did Denham kick up against it? ( yes) when michael Goves said he was looking at all applications for Academy status did Denham not kick up about the Tories taking away our childrens future by not allowing the Academy? this guy hasn't defended this city & changed his principles over night GOOD RIDDANCE to him. loosehead

9:23pm Fri 7 Oct 11

loosehead says...

southy wrote:
Voice of Concern wrote:
Oh Royston will be chuffed, what with John going and the proposed boundary changes to lump the Bitterne ward in with Hamble and Hedge End Royston will probably get elected to John's seat,,,,god help us if he does
I not to sure if if the torys will improve they are losing support to UKIP.
And it will not matter if its a Tory mp or a Labour one it still be god help is all, because there is no difference between the two
Southy are you in dream world ? many Labour supporters are flocking to UKIP as they are upset with Polish workers undercutting there wages or contracts ( building companies getting rid of British to hire Polish to compete against Polish companies) Many see Labours pro EU stance & realise if they want rid of the Poles they have to get out of Europe.Many Tories want this but they're more interested in being in the EU but not being run by the EU mind you The Liberals want to go deeper into the EU.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Voice of Concern[/bold] wrote: Oh Royston will be chuffed, what with John going and the proposed boundary changes to lump the Bitterne ward in with Hamble and Hedge End Royston will probably get elected to John's seat,,,,god help us if he does[/p][/quote]I not to sure if if the torys will improve they are losing support to UKIP. And it will not matter if its a Tory mp or a Labour one it still be god help is all, because there is no difference between the two[/p][/quote]Southy are you in dream world ? many Labour supporters are flocking to UKIP as they are upset with Polish workers undercutting there wages or contracts ( building companies getting rid of British to hire Polish to compete against Polish companies) Many see Labours pro EU stance & realise if they want rid of the Poles they have to get out of Europe.Many Tories want this but they're more interested in being in the EU but not being run by the EU mind you The Liberals want to go deeper into the EU. loosehead

9:27pm Fri 7 Oct 11

IronLady2010 says...

loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Voice of Concern wrote:
Oh Royston will be chuffed, what with John going and the proposed boundary changes to lump the Bitterne ward in with Hamble and Hedge End Royston will probably get elected to John's seat,,,,god help us if he does
I not to sure if if the torys will improve they are losing support to UKIP.
And it will not matter if its a Tory mp or a Labour one it still be god help is all, because there is no difference between the two
Southy are you in dream world ? many Labour supporters are flocking to UKIP as they are upset with Polish workers undercutting there wages or contracts ( building companies getting rid of British to hire Polish to compete against Polish companies) Many see Labours pro EU stance & realise if they want rid of the Poles they have to get out of Europe.Many Tories want this but they're more interested in being in the EU but not being run by the EU mind you The Liberals want to go deeper into the EU.
My darling Southy doesn't live in dream world, he's beyond that! Just you watch the TUSC storm the Country! We will all change language and become illiterate and go back to Mining then live happily every after with no currency worries as we'll all be on the same wage. AMEN
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Voice of Concern[/bold] wrote: Oh Royston will be chuffed, what with John going and the proposed boundary changes to lump the Bitterne ward in with Hamble and Hedge End Royston will probably get elected to John's seat,,,,god help us if he does[/p][/quote]I not to sure if if the torys will improve they are losing support to UKIP. And it will not matter if its a Tory mp or a Labour one it still be god help is all, because there is no difference between the two[/p][/quote]Southy are you in dream world ? many Labour supporters are flocking to UKIP as they are upset with Polish workers undercutting there wages or contracts ( building companies getting rid of British to hire Polish to compete against Polish companies) Many see Labours pro EU stance & realise if they want rid of the Poles they have to get out of Europe.Many Tories want this but they're more interested in being in the EU but not being run by the EU mind you The Liberals want to go deeper into the EU.[/p][/quote]My darling Southy doesn't live in dream world, he's beyond that! Just you watch the TUSC storm the Country! We will all change language and become illiterate and go back to Mining then live happily every after with no currency worries as we'll all be on the same wage. AMEN IronLady2010

9:40pm Fri 7 Oct 11

loosehead says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Voice of Concern wrote:
Oh Royston will be chuffed, what with John going and the proposed boundary changes to lump the Bitterne ward in with Hamble and Hedge End Royston will probably get elected to John's seat,,,,god help us if he does
I not to sure if if the torys will improve they are losing support to UKIP.
And it will not matter if its a Tory mp or a Labour one it still be god help is all, because there is no difference between the two
Southy are you in dream world ? many Labour supporters are flocking to UKIP as they are upset with Polish workers undercutting there wages or contracts ( building companies getting rid of British to hire Polish to compete against Polish companies) Many see Labours pro EU stance & realise if they want rid of the Poles they have to get out of Europe.Many Tories want this but they're more interested in being in the EU but not being run by the EU mind you The Liberals want to go deeper into the EU.
My darling Southy doesn't live in dream world, he's beyond that! Just you watch the TUSC storm the Country! We will all change language and become illiterate and go back to Mining then live happily every after with no currency worries as we'll all be on the same wage. AMEN
Nice to hear from you again where have you been?
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Voice of Concern[/bold] wrote: Oh Royston will be chuffed, what with John going and the proposed boundary changes to lump the Bitterne ward in with Hamble and Hedge End Royston will probably get elected to John's seat,,,,god help us if he does[/p][/quote]I not to sure if if the torys will improve they are losing support to UKIP. And it will not matter if its a Tory mp or a Labour one it still be god help is all, because there is no difference between the two[/p][/quote]Southy are you in dream world ? many Labour supporters are flocking to UKIP as they are upset with Polish workers undercutting there wages or contracts ( building companies getting rid of British to hire Polish to compete against Polish companies) Many see Labours pro EU stance & realise if they want rid of the Poles they have to get out of Europe.Many Tories want this but they're more interested in being in the EU but not being run by the EU mind you The Liberals want to go deeper into the EU.[/p][/quote]My darling Southy doesn't live in dream world, he's beyond that! Just you watch the TUSC storm the Country! We will all change language and become illiterate and go back to Mining then live happily every after with no currency worries as we'll all be on the same wage. AMEN[/p][/quote]Nice to hear from you again where have you been? loosehead

9:44pm Fri 7 Oct 11

IronLady2010 says...

loosehead wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Voice of Concern wrote:
Oh Royston will be chuffed, what with John going and the proposed boundary changes to lump the Bitterne ward in with Hamble and Hedge End Royston will probably get elected to John's seat,,,,god help us if he does
I not to sure if if the torys will improve they are losing support to UKIP.
And it will not matter if its a Tory mp or a Labour one it still be god help is all, because there is no difference between the two
Southy are you in dream world ? many Labour supporters are flocking to UKIP as they are upset with Polish workers undercutting there wages or contracts ( building companies getting rid of British to hire Polish to compete against Polish companies) Many see Labours pro EU stance & realise if they want rid of the Poles they have to get out of Europe.Many Tories want this but they're more interested in being in the EU but not being run by the EU mind you The Liberals want to go deeper into the EU.
My darling Southy doesn't live in dream world, he's beyond that! Just you watch the TUSC storm the Country! We will all change language and become illiterate and go back to Mining then live happily every after with no currency worries as we'll all be on the same wage. AMEN
Nice to hear from you again where have you been?
I've been reading, but to be honest got bored of posting. It seems on here to have an opinion causes a war.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Voice of Concern[/bold] wrote: Oh Royston will be chuffed, what with John going and the proposed boundary changes to lump the Bitterne ward in with Hamble and Hedge End Royston will probably get elected to John's seat,,,,god help us if he does[/p][/quote]I not to sure if if the torys will improve they are losing support to UKIP. And it will not matter if its a Tory mp or a Labour one it still be god help is all, because there is no difference between the two[/p][/quote]Southy are you in dream world ? many Labour supporters are flocking to UKIP as they are upset with Polish workers undercutting there wages or contracts ( building companies getting rid of British to hire Polish to compete against Polish companies) Many see Labours pro EU stance & realise if they want rid of the Poles they have to get out of Europe.Many Tories want this but they're more interested in being in the EU but not being run by the EU mind you The Liberals want to go deeper into the EU.[/p][/quote]My darling Southy doesn't live in dream world, he's beyond that! Just you watch the TUSC storm the Country! We will all change language and become illiterate and go back to Mining then live happily every after with no currency worries as we'll all be on the same wage. AMEN[/p][/quote]Nice to hear from you again where have you been?[/p][/quote]I've been reading, but to be honest got bored of posting. It seems on here to have an opinion causes a war. IronLady2010

9:49pm Fri 7 Oct 11

IronLady2010 says...

I live In Denham's patch and have contacted him numerous times. Only to get a PDF reply from his secretary, not once have I had a sensible reply, as far as I am concerned he has done nothing for me or my neighbours.

I am not saying any other party could have made a difference, but JD has done bugger all for me.
I live In Denham's patch and have contacted him numerous times. Only to get a PDF reply from his secretary, not once have I had a sensible reply, as far as I am concerned he has done nothing for me or my neighbours. I am not saying any other party could have made a difference, but JD has done bugger all for me. IronLady2010

9:53pm Fri 7 Oct 11

IronLady2010 says...

Was it not JD who wrote to all residents at Ocean Village to oppose the future building of Appartments???????

I'm sure it was his name on that letter!

Then the building was scrapped and the place is left an eye sore! OH then the Builders went bust!

Maybe JD can shed some light?
Was it not JD who wrote to all residents at Ocean Village to oppose the future building of Appartments??????? I'm sure it was his name on that letter! Then the building was scrapped and the place is left an eye sore! OH then the Builders went bust! Maybe JD can shed some light? IronLady2010

9:16am Sat 8 Oct 11

freemantlegirl2 says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Was it not JD who wrote to all residents at Ocean Village to oppose the future building of Appartments???????

I'm sure it was his name on that letter!

Then the building was scrapped and the place is left an eye sore! OH then the Builders went bust!

Maybe JD can shed some light?
Oh of course that's his PERSONAL responsibility isn't it.... the city council, recession, builders and bad planning had nothing to do with it lol! if one individual could wield that much power we'd be in deep do-do!

I'm sorry to see you go John, you've done a fantastic job for your constituents, stood by your own values (Iraq) and yes one in the eye for all the very mischievous speculation from the Echo that you'd been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet.

Congratulations and good luck in your retirement.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Was it not JD who wrote to all residents at Ocean Village to oppose the future building of Appartments??????? I'm sure it was his name on that letter! Then the building was scrapped and the place is left an eye sore! OH then the Builders went bust! Maybe JD can shed some light?[/p][/quote]Oh of course that's his PERSONAL responsibility isn't it.... the city council, recession, builders and bad planning had nothing to do with it lol! if one individual could wield that much power we'd be in deep do-do! I'm sorry to see you go John, you've done a fantastic job for your constituents, stood by your own values (Iraq) and yes one in the eye for all the very mischievous speculation from the Echo that you'd been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet. Congratulations and good luck in your retirement. freemantlegirl2

9:17am Sat 8 Oct 11

freemantlegirl2 says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Was it not JD who wrote to all residents at Ocean Village to oppose the future building of Appartments???????

I'm sure it was his name on that letter!

Then the building was scrapped and the place is left an eye sore! OH then the Builders went bust!

Maybe JD can shed some light?
Oh of course that's his PERSONAL responsibility isn't it.... the city council, recession, builders and bad planning had nothing to do with it lol!

I'm sorry to see you go John, you've done a fantastic job for your constituents, stood by your own values (Iraq) and yes one in the eye for all the very mischievous speculation from the Echo that you'd been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet. I did warn you (and all the other numpties that jumped on the bandwagon) that you'd all look silly ;)

Congratulations and good luck in your retirement.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Was it not JD who wrote to all residents at Ocean Village to oppose the future building of Appartments??????? I'm sure it was his name on that letter! Then the building was scrapped and the place is left an eye sore! OH then the Builders went bust! Maybe JD can shed some light?[/p][/quote]Oh of course that's his PERSONAL responsibility isn't it.... the city council, recession, builders and bad planning had nothing to do with it lol! I'm sorry to see you go John, you've done a fantastic job for your constituents, stood by your own values (Iraq) and yes one in the eye for all the very mischievous speculation from the Echo that you'd been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet. I did warn you (and all the other numpties that jumped on the bandwagon) that you'd all look silly ;) Congratulations and good luck in your retirement. freemantlegirl2

11:25am Sat 8 Oct 11

loosehead says...

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Was it not JD who wrote to all residents at Ocean Village to oppose the future building of Appartments???????

I'm sure it was his name on that letter!

Then the building was scrapped and the place is left an eye sore! OH then the Builders went bust!

Maybe JD can shed some light?
Oh of course that's his PERSONAL responsibility isn't it.... the city council, recession, builders and bad planning had nothing to do with it lol!

I'm sorry to see you go John, you've done a fantastic job for your constituents, stood by your own values (Iraq) and yes one in the eye for all the very mischievous speculation from the Echo that you'd been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet. I did warn you (and all the other numpties that jumped on the bandwagon) that you'd all look silly ;)

Congratulations and good luck in your retirement.
He's not even your MP yet you say he's done a fantastic job? who for? money taken from southamptons Labour council to give to the poor ( joke) North & did that guy doing a fantastic job for us stand up & fight this city & his Labour colleagues corner? NO he didn't his constituency was being shafted by his Government his constituency was losing jobs at an alarming rate because of his parties total obedience to their European masters did he resign his position in government to move to the backbenches NO he didn't.did he do that for Iraq ? yes he did so if he cared for this city why didn't he stand up & fight for us?
[quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Was it not JD who wrote to all residents at Ocean Village to oppose the future building of Appartments??????? I'm sure it was his name on that letter! Then the building was scrapped and the place is left an eye sore! OH then the Builders went bust! Maybe JD can shed some light?[/p][/quote]Oh of course that's his PERSONAL responsibility isn't it.... the city council, recession, builders and bad planning had nothing to do with it lol! I'm sorry to see you go John, you've done a fantastic job for your constituents, stood by your own values (Iraq) and yes one in the eye for all the very mischievous speculation from the Echo that you'd been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet. I did warn you (and all the other numpties that jumped on the bandwagon) that you'd all look silly ;) Congratulations and good luck in your retirement.[/p][/quote]He's not even your MP yet you say he's done a fantastic job? who for? money taken from southamptons Labour council to give to the poor ( joke) North & did that guy doing a fantastic job for us stand up & fight this city & his Labour colleagues corner? NO he didn't his constituency was being shafted by his Government his constituency was losing jobs at an alarming rate because of his parties total obedience to their European masters did he resign his position in government to move to the backbenches NO he didn't.did he do that for Iraq ? yes he did so if he cared for this city why didn't he stand up & fight for us? loosehead

12:07pm Sat 8 Oct 11

Voice of Concern says...

loosehead wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Was it not JD who wrote to all residents at Ocean Village to oppose the future building of Appartments???????

I'm sure it was his name on that letter!

Then the building was scrapped and the place is left an eye sore! OH then the Builders went bust!

Maybe JD can shed some light?
Oh of course that's his PERSONAL responsibility isn't it.... the city council, recession, builders and bad planning had nothing to do with it lol!

I'm sorry to see you go John, you've done a fantastic job for your constituents, stood by your own values (Iraq) and yes one in the eye for all the very mischievous speculation from the Echo that you'd been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet. I did warn you (and all the other numpties that jumped on the bandwagon) that you'd all look silly ;)

Congratulations and good luck in your retirement.
He's not even your MP yet you say he's done a fantastic job? who for? money taken from southamptons Labour council to give to the poor ( joke) North & did that guy doing a fantastic job for us stand up & fight this city & his Labour colleagues corner? NO he didn't his constituency was being shafted by his Government his constituency was losing jobs at an alarming rate because of his parties total obedience to their European masters did he resign his position in government to move to the backbenches NO he didn't.did he do that for Iraq ? yes he did so if he cared for this city why didn't he stand up & fight for us?
£49 million pounds to Thornhill as part of the Labour NDC programme, plus SRB 2 and 6 money spent in Southampton again a Labour programme (money spent in Woolston, Weston St Mary's and Shirley, Millbrook) John Denham was instrumental in all three of those programmes gaining the funding to the regenerate the respective areas of Southampton.

Not bad I think for the people living in those areas.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Was it not JD who wrote to all residents at Ocean Village to oppose the future building of Appartments??????? I'm sure it was his name on that letter! Then the building was scrapped and the place is left an eye sore! OH then the Builders went bust! Maybe JD can shed some light?[/p][/quote]Oh of course that's his PERSONAL responsibility isn't it.... the city council, recession, builders and bad planning had nothing to do with it lol! I'm sorry to see you go John, you've done a fantastic job for your constituents, stood by your own values (Iraq) and yes one in the eye for all the very mischievous speculation from the Echo that you'd been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet. I did warn you (and all the other numpties that jumped on the bandwagon) that you'd all look silly ;) Congratulations and good luck in your retirement.[/p][/quote]He's not even your MP yet you say he's done a fantastic job? who for? money taken from southamptons Labour council to give to the poor ( joke) North & did that guy doing a fantastic job for us stand up & fight this city & his Labour colleagues corner? NO he didn't his constituency was being shafted by his Government his constituency was losing jobs at an alarming rate because of his parties total obedience to their European masters did he resign his position in government to move to the backbenches NO he didn't.did he do that for Iraq ? yes he did so if he cared for this city why didn't he stand up & fight for us?[/p][/quote]£49 million pounds to Thornhill as part of the Labour NDC programme, plus SRB 2 and 6 money spent in Southampton again a Labour programme (money spent in Woolston, Weston St Mary's and Shirley, Millbrook) John Denham was instrumental in all three of those programmes gaining the funding to the regenerate the respective areas of Southampton. Not bad I think for the people living in those areas. Voice of Concern

12:14pm Sat 8 Oct 11

a and e says...

Voice of Concern wrote:
loosehead wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Was it not JD who wrote to all residents at Ocean Village to oppose the future building of Appartments???????

I'm sure it was his name on that letter!

Then the building was scrapped and the place is left an eye sore! OH then the Builders went bust!

Maybe JD can shed some light?
Oh of course that's his PERSONAL responsibility isn't it.... the city council, recession, builders and bad planning had nothing to do with it lol!

I'm sorry to see you go John, you've done a fantastic job for your constituents, stood by your own values (Iraq) and yes one in the eye for all the very mischievous speculation from the Echo that you'd been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet. I did warn you (and all the other numpties that jumped on the bandwagon) that you'd all look silly ;)

Congratulations and good luck in your retirement.
He's not even your MP yet you say he's done a fantastic job? who for? money taken from southamptons Labour council to give to the poor ( joke) North & did that guy doing a fantastic job for us stand up & fight this city & his Labour colleagues corner? NO he didn't his constituency was being shafted by his Government his constituency was losing jobs at an alarming rate because of his parties total obedience to their European masters did he resign his position in government to move to the backbenches NO he didn't.did he do that for Iraq ? yes he did so if he cared for this city why didn't he stand up & fight for us?
£49 million pounds to Thornhill as part of the Labour NDC programme, plus SRB 2 and 6 money spent in Southampton again a Labour programme (money spent in Woolston, Weston St Mary's and Shirley, Millbrook) John Denham was instrumental in all three of those programmes gaining the funding to the regenerate the respective areas of Southampton.

Not bad I think for the people living in those areas.
Yes, same old suspects get all the money ,Swaythling, Shirley Warren and Merry Oak are always overlooked.
[quote][p][bold]Voice of Concern[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Was it not JD who wrote to all residents at Ocean Village to oppose the future building of Appartments??????? I'm sure it was his name on that letter! Then the building was scrapped and the place is left an eye sore! OH then the Builders went bust! Maybe JD can shed some light?[/p][/quote]Oh of course that's his PERSONAL responsibility isn't it.... the city council, recession, builders and bad planning had nothing to do with it lol! I'm sorry to see you go John, you've done a fantastic job for your constituents, stood by your own values (Iraq) and yes one in the eye for all the very mischievous speculation from the Echo that you'd been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet. I did warn you (and all the other numpties that jumped on the bandwagon) that you'd all look silly ;) Congratulations and good luck in your retirement.[/p][/quote]He's not even your MP yet you say he's done a fantastic job? who for? money taken from southamptons Labour council to give to the poor ( joke) North & did that guy doing a fantastic job for us stand up & fight this city & his Labour colleagues corner? NO he didn't his constituency was being shafted by his Government his constituency was losing jobs at an alarming rate because of his parties total obedience to their European masters did he resign his position in government to move to the backbenches NO he didn't.did he do that for Iraq ? yes he did so if he cared for this city why didn't he stand up & fight for us?[/p][/quote]£49 million pounds to Thornhill as part of the Labour NDC programme, plus SRB 2 and 6 money spent in Southampton again a Labour programme (money spent in Woolston, Weston St Mary's and Shirley, Millbrook) John Denham was instrumental in all three of those programmes gaining the funding to the regenerate the respective areas of Southampton. Not bad I think for the people living in those areas.[/p][/quote]Yes, same old suspects get all the money ,Swaythling, Shirley Warren and Merry Oak are always overlooked. a and e

12:27pm Sat 8 Oct 11

Voice of Concern says...

a and e wrote:
Voice of Concern wrote:
loosehead wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Was it not JD who wrote to all residents at Ocean Village to oppose the future building of Appartments???????

I'm sure it was his name on that letter!

Then the building was scrapped and the place is left an eye sore! OH then the Builders went bust!

Maybe JD can shed some light?
Oh of course that's his PERSONAL responsibility isn't it.... the city council, recession, builders and bad planning had nothing to do with it lol!

I'm sorry to see you go John, you've done a fantastic job for your constituents, stood by your own values (Iraq) and yes one in the eye for all the very mischievous speculation from the Echo that you'd been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet. I did warn you (and all the other numpties that jumped on the bandwagon) that you'd all look silly ;)

Congratulations and good luck in your retirement.
He's not even your MP yet you say he's done a fantastic job? who for? money taken from southamptons Labour council to give to the poor ( joke) North & did that guy doing a fantastic job for us stand up & fight this city & his Labour colleagues corner? NO he didn't his constituency was being shafted by his Government his constituency was losing jobs at an alarming rate because of his parties total obedience to their European masters did he resign his position in government to move to the backbenches NO he didn't.did he do that for Iraq ? yes he did so if he cared for this city why didn't he stand up & fight for us?
£49 million pounds to Thornhill as part of the Labour NDC programme, plus SRB 2 and 6 money spent in Southampton again a Labour programme (money spent in Woolston, Weston St Mary's and Shirley, Millbrook) John Denham was instrumental in all three of those programmes gaining the funding to the regenerate the respective areas of Southampton.

Not bad I think for the people living in those areas.
Yes, same old suspects get all the money ,Swaythling, Shirley Warren and Merry Oak are always overlooked.
SRB 6 money went to Shirley Warren as part of the Outer Shirley Regeneration area.

The money has been spent it was granted over 10 years ago, time to get over it, a and e
[quote][p][bold]a and e[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Voice of Concern[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Was it not JD who wrote to all residents at Ocean Village to oppose the future building of Appartments??????? I'm sure it was his name on that letter! Then the building was scrapped and the place is left an eye sore! OH then the Builders went bust! Maybe JD can shed some light?[/p][/quote]Oh of course that's his PERSONAL responsibility isn't it.... the city council, recession, builders and bad planning had nothing to do with it lol! I'm sorry to see you go John, you've done a fantastic job for your constituents, stood by your own values (Iraq) and yes one in the eye for all the very mischievous speculation from the Echo that you'd been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet. I did warn you (and all the other numpties that jumped on the bandwagon) that you'd all look silly ;) Congratulations and good luck in your retirement.[/p][/quote]He's not even your MP yet you say he's done a fantastic job? who for? money taken from southamptons Labour council to give to the poor ( joke) North & did that guy doing a fantastic job for us stand up & fight this city & his Labour colleagues corner? NO he didn't his constituency was being shafted by his Government his constituency was losing jobs at an alarming rate because of his parties total obedience to their European masters did he resign his position in government to move to the backbenches NO he didn't.did he do that for Iraq ? yes he did so if he cared for this city why didn't he stand up & fight for us?[/p][/quote]£49 million pounds to Thornhill as part of the Labour NDC programme, plus SRB 2 and 6 money spent in Southampton again a Labour programme (money spent in Woolston, Weston St Mary's and Shirley, Millbrook) John Denham was instrumental in all three of those programmes gaining the funding to the regenerate the respective areas of Southampton. Not bad I think for the people living in those areas.[/p][/quote]Yes, same old suspects get all the money ,Swaythling, Shirley Warren and Merry Oak are always overlooked.[/p][/quote]SRB 6 money went to Shirley Warren as part of the Outer Shirley Regeneration area. The money has been spent it was granted over 10 years ago, time to get over it, a and e Voice of Concern

2:17pm Sat 8 Oct 11

loosehead says...

Voice of Concern wrote:
loosehead wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Was it not JD who wrote to all residents at Ocean Village to oppose the future building of Appartments???????

I'm sure it was his name on that letter!

Then the building was scrapped and the place is left an eye sore! OH then the Builders went bust!

Maybe JD can shed some light?
Oh of course that's his PERSONAL responsibility isn't it.... the city council, recession, builders and bad planning had nothing to do with it lol!

I'm sorry to see you go John, you've done a fantastic job for your constituents, stood by your own values (Iraq) and yes one in the eye for all the very mischievous speculation from the Echo that you'd been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet. I did warn you (and all the other numpties that jumped on the bandwagon) that you'd all look silly ;)

Congratulations and good luck in your retirement.
He's not even your MP yet you say he's done a fantastic job? who for? money taken from southamptons Labour council to give to the poor ( joke) North & did that guy doing a fantastic job for us stand up & fight this city & his Labour colleagues corner? NO he didn't his constituency was being shafted by his Government his constituency was losing jobs at an alarming rate because of his parties total obedience to their European masters did he resign his position in government to move to the backbenches NO he didn't.did he do that for Iraq ? yes he did so if he cared for this city why didn't he stand up & fight for us?
£49 million pounds to Thornhill as part of the Labour NDC programme, plus SRB 2 and 6 money spent in Southampton again a Labour programme (money spent in Woolston, Weston St Mary's and Shirley, Millbrook) John Denham was instrumental in all three of those programmes gaining the funding to the regenerate the respective areas of Southampton.

Not bad I think for the people living in those areas.
That's funny? when Thornhill was being redeveloped left wingers on here were slagging down the council for a waste of money yet you claim it was Denhams doing? he jumped on any bandwagon if he thought it would get him votes where's your prove Denham was responsible for all these things?
[quote][p][bold]Voice of Concern[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Was it not JD who wrote to all residents at Ocean Village to oppose the future building of Appartments??????? I'm sure it was his name on that letter! Then the building was scrapped and the place is left an eye sore! OH then the Builders went bust! Maybe JD can shed some light?[/p][/quote]Oh of course that's his PERSONAL responsibility isn't it.... the city council, recession, builders and bad planning had nothing to do with it lol! I'm sorry to see you go John, you've done a fantastic job for your constituents, stood by your own values (Iraq) and yes one in the eye for all the very mischievous speculation from the Echo that you'd been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet. I did warn you (and all the other numpties that jumped on the bandwagon) that you'd all look silly ;) Congratulations and good luck in your retirement.[/p][/quote]He's not even your MP yet you say he's done a fantastic job? who for? money taken from southamptons Labour council to give to the poor ( joke) North & did that guy doing a fantastic job for us stand up & fight this city & his Labour colleagues corner? NO he didn't his constituency was being shafted by his Government his constituency was losing jobs at an alarming rate because of his parties total obedience to their European masters did he resign his position in government to move to the backbenches NO he didn't.did he do that for Iraq ? yes he did so if he cared for this city why didn't he stand up & fight for us?[/p][/quote]£49 million pounds to Thornhill as part of the Labour NDC programme, plus SRB 2 and 6 money spent in Southampton again a Labour programme (money spent in Woolston, Weston St Mary's and Shirley, Millbrook) John Denham was instrumental in all three of those programmes gaining the funding to the regenerate the respective areas of Southampton. Not bad I think for the people living in those areas.[/p][/quote]That's funny? when Thornhill was being redeveloped left wingers on here were slagging down the council for a waste of money yet you claim it was Denhams doing? he jumped on any bandwagon if he thought it would get him votes where's your prove Denham was responsible for all these things? loosehead

6:09pm Sat 8 Oct 11

Voice of Concern says...

loosehead wrote:
Voice of Concern wrote:
loosehead wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Was it not JD who wrote to all residents at Ocean Village to oppose the future building of Appartments???????

I'm sure it was his name on that letter!

Then the building was scrapped and the place is left an eye sore! OH then the Builders went bust!

Maybe JD can shed some light?
Oh of course that's his PERSONAL responsibility isn't it.... the city council, recession, builders and bad planning had nothing to do with it lol!

I'm sorry to see you go John, you've done a fantastic job for your constituents, stood by your own values (Iraq) and yes one in the eye for all the very mischievous speculation from the Echo that you'd been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet. I did warn you (and all the other numpties that jumped on the bandwagon) that you'd all look silly ;)

Congratulations and good luck in your retirement.
He's not even your MP yet you say he's done a fantastic job? who for? money taken from southamptons Labour council to give to the poor ( joke) North & did that guy doing a fantastic job for us stand up & fight this city & his Labour colleagues corner? NO he didn't his constituency was being shafted by his Government his constituency was losing jobs at an alarming rate because of his parties total obedience to their European masters did he resign his position in government to move to the backbenches NO he didn't.did he do that for Iraq ? yes he did so if he cared for this city why didn't he stand up & fight for us?
£49 million pounds to Thornhill as part of the Labour NDC programme, plus SRB 2 and 6 money spent in Southampton again a Labour programme (money spent in Woolston, Weston St Mary's and Shirley, Millbrook) John Denham was instrumental in all three of those programmes gaining the funding to the regenerate the respective areas of Southampton.

Not bad I think for the people living in those areas.
That's funny? when Thornhill was being redeveloped left wingers on here were slagging down the council for a waste of money yet you claim it was Denhams doing? he jumped on any bandwagon if he thought it would get him votes where's your prove Denham was responsible for all these things?
I didn't say it was all down to him, by the way the funding for Thornhill had nothing to do with the council, they were simply the accountable body (they held the money on behalf of the residents) it money from Central Government, I said he was instrumental, given his 100% support, helping residents along wuth then 3 Labour ward councillors, John Denham when he was secretary of state for communities stuck his neck out when other stood and said nothing.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Voice of Concern[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Was it not JD who wrote to all residents at Ocean Village to oppose the future building of Appartments??????? I'm sure it was his name on that letter! Then the building was scrapped and the place is left an eye sore! OH then the Builders went bust! Maybe JD can shed some light?[/p][/quote]Oh of course that's his PERSONAL responsibility isn't it.... the city council, recession, builders and bad planning had nothing to do with it lol! I'm sorry to see you go John, you've done a fantastic job for your constituents, stood by your own values (Iraq) and yes one in the eye for all the very mischievous speculation from the Echo that you'd been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet. I did warn you (and all the other numpties that jumped on the bandwagon) that you'd all look silly ;) Congratulations and good luck in your retirement.[/p][/quote]He's not even your MP yet you say he's done a fantastic job? who for? money taken from southamptons Labour council to give to the poor ( joke) North & did that guy doing a fantastic job for us stand up & fight this city & his Labour colleagues corner? NO he didn't his constituency was being shafted by his Government his constituency was losing jobs at an alarming rate because of his parties total obedience to their European masters did he resign his position in government to move to the backbenches NO he didn't.did he do that for Iraq ? yes he did so if he cared for this city why didn't he stand up & fight for us?[/p][/quote]£49 million pounds to Thornhill as part of the Labour NDC programme, plus SRB 2 and 6 money spent in Southampton again a Labour programme (money spent in Woolston, Weston St Mary's and Shirley, Millbrook) John Denham was instrumental in all three of those programmes gaining the funding to the regenerate the respective areas of Southampton. Not bad I think for the people living in those areas.[/p][/quote]That's funny? when Thornhill was being redeveloped left wingers on here were slagging down the council for a waste of money yet you claim it was Denhams doing? he jumped on any bandwagon if he thought it would get him votes where's your prove Denham was responsible for all these things?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it was all down to him, by the way the funding for Thornhill had nothing to do with the council, they were simply the accountable body (they held the money on behalf of the residents) it money from Central Government, I said he was instrumental, given his 100% support, helping residents along wuth then 3 Labour ward councillors, John Denham when he was secretary of state for communities stuck his neck out when other stood and said nothing. Voice of Concern

9:14pm Sat 8 Oct 11

loosehead says...

Voice of Concern wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Voice of Concern wrote:
loosehead wrote:
freemantlegirl2 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Was it not JD who wrote to all residents at Ocean Village to oppose the future building of Appartments???????

I'm sure it was his name on that letter!

Then the building was scrapped and the place is left an eye sore! OH then the Builders went bust!

Maybe JD can shed some light?
Oh of course that's his PERSONAL responsibility isn't it.... the city council, recession, builders and bad planning had nothing to do with it lol!

I'm sorry to see you go John, you've done a fantastic job for your constituents, stood by your own values (Iraq) and yes one in the eye for all the very mischievous speculation from the Echo that you'd been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet. I did warn you (and all the other numpties that jumped on the bandwagon) that you'd all look silly ;)

Congratulations and good luck in your retirement.
He's not even your MP yet you say he's done a fantastic job? who for? money taken from southamptons Labour council to give to the poor ( joke) North & did that guy doing a fantastic job for us stand up & fight this city & his Labour colleagues corner? NO he didn't his constituency was being shafted by his Government his constituency was losing jobs at an alarming rate because of his parties total obedience to their European masters did he resign his position in government to move to the backbenches NO he didn't.did he do that for Iraq ? yes he did so if he cared for this city why didn't he stand up & fight for us?
£49 million pounds to Thornhill as part of the Labour NDC programme, plus SRB 2 and 6 money spent in Southampton again a Labour programme (money spent in Woolston, Weston St Mary's and Shirley, Millbrook) John Denham was instrumental in all three of those programmes gaining the funding to the regenerate the respective areas of Southampton.

Not bad I think for the people living in those areas.
That's funny? when Thornhill was being redeveloped left wingers on here were slagging down the council for a waste of money yet you claim it was Denhams doing? he jumped on any bandwagon if he thought it would get him votes where's your prove Denham was responsible for all these things?
I didn't say it was all down to him, by the way the funding for Thornhill had nothing to do with the council, they were simply the accountable body (they held the money on behalf of the residents) it money from Central Government, I said he was instrumental, given his 100% support, helping residents along wuth then 3 Labour ward councillors, John Denham when he was secretary of state for communities stuck his neck out when other stood and said nothing.
Like he argued for our money to be returned to us & not given to the North?Like he shouted against Academies but when he thought the coalition were going to stop them he shouted up in favour of them? Sorry like a lot of shop stewards & like his follow Labour MP John Prescott he only thought about number one himself of course.They all come on here slagging down the tory council for spending money on projects to bring jobs to the city but never think that this money can't be spent on council workers yet not one of them seems to have woken up to the fact that Denham stood by & allowed his party to pillage millions from this city that could have meant no cuts ( work out the money taken under Labour to give to the North) as we would still be okay with the present cuts to our budget if we still had those monies taken from us previously by Labour so once again if he can speak out on Iraq why couldn't he speak out for this city?
[quote][p][bold]Voice of Concern[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Voice of Concern[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Was it not JD who wrote to all residents at Ocean Village to oppose the future building of Appartments??????? I'm sure it was his name on that letter! Then the building was scrapped and the place is left an eye sore! OH then the Builders went bust! Maybe JD can shed some light?[/p][/quote]Oh of course that's his PERSONAL responsibility isn't it.... the city council, recession, builders and bad planning had nothing to do with it lol! I'm sorry to see you go John, you've done a fantastic job for your constituents, stood by your own values (Iraq) and yes one in the eye for all the very mischievous speculation from the Echo that you'd been sacked from the Shadow Cabinet. I did warn you (and all the other numpties that jumped on the bandwagon) that you'd all look silly ;) Congratulations and good luck in your retirement.[/p][/quote]He's not even your MP yet you say he's done a fantastic job? who for? money taken from southamptons Labour council to give to the poor ( joke) North & did that guy doing a fantastic job for us stand up & fight this city & his Labour colleagues corner? NO he didn't his constituency was being shafted by his Government his constituency was losing jobs at an alarming rate because of his parties total obedience to their European masters did he resign his position in government to move to the backbenches NO he didn't.did he do that for Iraq ? yes he did so if he cared for this city why didn't he stand up & fight for us?[/p][/quote]£49 million pounds to Thornhill as part of the Labour NDC programme, plus SRB 2 and 6 money spent in Southampton again a Labour programme (money spent in Woolston, Weston St Mary's and Shirley, Millbrook) John Denham was instrumental in all three of those programmes gaining the funding to the regenerate the respective areas of Southampton. Not bad I think for the people living in those areas.[/p][/quote]That's funny? when Thornhill was being redeveloped left wingers on here were slagging down the council for a waste of money yet you claim it was Denhams doing? he jumped on any bandwagon if he thought it would get him votes where's your prove Denham was responsible for all these things?[/p][/quote]I didn't say it was all down to him, by the way the funding for Thornhill had nothing to do with the council, they were simply the accountable body (they held the money on behalf of the residents) it money from Central Government, I said he was instrumental, given his 100% support, helping residents along wuth then 3 Labour ward councillors, John Denham when he was secretary of state for communities stuck his neck out when other stood and said nothing.[/p][/quote]Like he argued for our money to be returned to us & not given to the North?Like he shouted against Academies but when he thought the coalition were going to stop them he shouted up in favour of them? Sorry like a lot of shop stewards & like his follow Labour MP John Prescott he only thought about number one himself of course.They all come on here slagging down the tory council for spending money on projects to bring jobs to the city but never think that this money can't be spent on council workers yet not one of them seems to have woken up to the fact that Denham stood by & allowed his party to pillage millions from this city that could have meant no cuts ( work out the money taken under Labour to give to the North) as we would still be okay with the present cuts to our budget if we still had those monies taken from us previously by Labour so once again if he can speak out on Iraq why couldn't he speak out for this city? loosehead

8:48am Sun 9 Oct 11

Condor Man says...

Loosehead, Denham wasn't against Academies per se, he was against a Christian company (Oasis) as he was backing his old uni stooges as part of the Southampton Education Trust. SET are not exactly doing a good job at Chamberlayne School but that seems to be lost in his personal crusade against Oasis. Interesting that the outcome of his meeting with Steve Chalke was never published.
Loosehead, Denham wasn't against Academies per se, he was against a Christian company (Oasis) as he was backing his old uni stooges as part of the Southampton Education Trust. SET are not exactly doing a good job at Chamberlayne School but that seems to be lost in his personal crusade against Oasis. Interesting that the outcome of his meeting with Steve Chalke was never published. Condor Man

10:29am Sun 9 Oct 11

loosehead says...

Condor Man wrote:
Loosehead, Denham wasn't against Academies per se, he was against a Christian company (Oasis) as he was backing his old uni stooges as part of the Southampton Education Trust. SET are not exactly doing a good job at Chamberlayne School but that seems to be lost in his personal crusade against Oasis. Interesting that the outcome of his meeting with Steve Chalke was never published.
Against christian against the war in Iraq has he got a touch of bigotry there? Personally I wish the new Academy well but am annoyed that the school I went to no longer exists ( in name) I never saw Denham or Whitehead say anything when Bellemoor went & Upper Shirley was born ? still can't see why they needed to change the name with all the extra expense that incurs
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: Loosehead, Denham wasn't against Academies per se, he was against a Christian company (Oasis) as he was backing his old uni stooges as part of the Southampton Education Trust. SET are not exactly doing a good job at Chamberlayne School but that seems to be lost in his personal crusade against Oasis. Interesting that the outcome of his meeting with Steve Chalke was never published.[/p][/quote]Against christian against the war in Iraq has he got a touch of bigotry there? Personally I wish the new Academy well but am annoyed that the school I went to no longer exists ( in name) I never saw Denham or Whitehead say anything when Bellemoor went & Upper Shirley was born ? still can't see why they needed to change the name with all the extra expense that incurs loosehead

11:56am Sun 9 Oct 11

Voice of Concern says...

loosehead wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
Loosehead, Denham wasn't against Academies per se, he was against a Christian company (Oasis) as he was backing his old uni stooges as part of the Southampton Education Trust. SET are not exactly doing a good job at Chamberlayne School but that seems to be lost in his personal crusade against Oasis. Interesting that the outcome of his meeting with Steve Chalke was never published.
Against christian against the war in Iraq has he got a touch of bigotry there? Personally I wish the new Academy well but am annoyed that the school I went to no longer exists ( in name) I never saw Denham or Whitehead say anything when Bellemoor went & Upper Shirley was born ? still can't see why they needed to change the name with all the extra expense that incurs
John Denham was against the Oasis schools, along with both Dean's of the cities uni's, along with the biggest employers such as Carnival, Ford's and Skandia.

As for allowing John Denham allowing Labour to pillage this city, that would have prevented cuts, that complete tosh, Eric Pickles on the orders of George Osborn and in turn David Cameron are inflicting these cuts.

Remember this Loosehead,,,, the Tories and Lib Dems when in opposition fully supported the Government handling of the economy, only when cocoa the clown and the rest of the circus came to power did they complain and play the blame game, that is something they continue to do because they don't have any answers to the worldwide debt crisis.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: Loosehead, Denham wasn't against Academies per se, he was against a Christian company (Oasis) as he was backing his old uni stooges as part of the Southampton Education Trust. SET are not exactly doing a good job at Chamberlayne School but that seems to be lost in his personal crusade against Oasis. Interesting that the outcome of his meeting with Steve Chalke was never published.[/p][/quote]Against christian against the war in Iraq has he got a touch of bigotry there? Personally I wish the new Academy well but am annoyed that the school I went to no longer exists ( in name) I never saw Denham or Whitehead say anything when Bellemoor went & Upper Shirley was born ? still can't see why they needed to change the name with all the extra expense that incurs[/p][/quote]John Denham was against the Oasis schools, along with both Dean's of the cities uni's, along with the biggest employers such as Carnival, Ford's and Skandia. As for allowing John Denham allowing Labour to pillage this city, that would have prevented cuts, that complete tosh, Eric Pickles on the orders of George Osborn and in turn David Cameron are inflicting these cuts. Remember this Loosehead,,,, the Tories and Lib Dems when in opposition fully supported the Government handling of the economy, only when cocoa the clown and the rest of the circus came to power did they complain and play the blame game, that is something they continue to do because they don't have any answers to the worldwide debt crisis. Voice of Concern

5:42pm Sun 9 Oct 11

loosehead says...

Voice of Concern wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
Loosehead, Denham wasn't against Academies per se, he was against a Christian company (Oasis) as he was backing his old uni stooges as part of the Southampton Education Trust. SET are not exactly doing a good job at Chamberlayne School but that seems to be lost in his personal crusade against Oasis. Interesting that the outcome of his meeting with Steve Chalke was never published.
Against christian against the war in Iraq has he got a touch of bigotry there? Personally I wish the new Academy well but am annoyed that the school I went to no longer exists ( in name) I never saw Denham or Whitehead say anything when Bellemoor went & Upper Shirley was born ? still can't see why they needed to change the name with all the extra expense that incurs
John Denham was against the Oasis schools, along with both Dean's of the cities uni's, along with the biggest employers such as Carnival, Ford's and Skandia.

As for allowing John Denham allowing Labour to pillage this city, that would have prevented cuts, that complete tosh, Eric Pickles on the orders of George Osborn and in turn David Cameron are inflicting these cuts.

Remember this Loosehead,,,, the Tories and Lib Dems when in opposition fully supported the Government handling of the economy, only when cocoa the clown and the rest of the circus came to power did they complain and play the blame game, that is something they continue to do because they don't have any answers to the worldwide debt crisis.
I guess you have a brain & can add up so let me put it to you again for many years Labour took £10million a year from Southampton & sent it up North you with me so far? if this council had that money & the Coalition said were taking £25million from your budget that would equate to only 15 million You still with me? but after having to make cuts syphon off things like leisure to cut costs to save the money that was going up North an election took place & then they were told to cut 25million this year,the cuts they could have made which would have not lead to industrial disputes already had been done through Labours need to subsidise the North through the South now even you must be able to see without the pillaging done by Labour on Southampton & the South we would be in a far better p[lace than we are now or are your political views so blinkered you can't see it?
[quote][p][bold]Voice of Concern[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: Loosehead, Denham wasn't against Academies per se, he was against a Christian company (Oasis) as he was backing his old uni stooges as part of the Southampton Education Trust. SET are not exactly doing a good job at Chamberlayne School but that seems to be lost in his personal crusade against Oasis. Interesting that the outcome of his meeting with Steve Chalke was never published.[/p][/quote]Against christian against the war in Iraq has he got a touch of bigotry there? Personally I wish the new Academy well but am annoyed that the school I went to no longer exists ( in name) I never saw Denham or Whitehead say anything when Bellemoor went & Upper Shirley was born ? still can't see why they needed to change the name with all the extra expense that incurs[/p][/quote]John Denham was against the Oasis schools, along with both Dean's of the cities uni's, along with the biggest employers such as Carnival, Ford's and Skandia. As for allowing John Denham allowing Labour to pillage this city, that would have prevented cuts, that complete tosh, Eric Pickles on the orders of George Osborn and in turn David Cameron are inflicting these cuts. Remember this Loosehead,,,, the Tories and Lib Dems when in opposition fully supported the Government handling of the economy, only when cocoa the clown and the rest of the circus came to power did they complain and play the blame game, that is something they continue to do because they don't have any answers to the worldwide debt crisis.[/p][/quote]I guess you have a brain & can add up so let me put it to you again for many years Labour took £10million a year from Southampton & sent it up North you with me so far? if this council had that money & the Coalition said were taking £25million from your budget that would equate to only 15 million You still with me? but after having to make cuts syphon off things like leisure to cut costs to save the money that was going up North an election took place & then they were told to cut 25million this year,the cuts they could have made which would have not lead to industrial disputes already had been done through Labours need to subsidise the North through the South now even you must be able to see without the pillaging done by Labour on Southampton & the South we would be in a far better p[lace than we are now or are your political views so blinkered you can't see it? loosehead

8:07pm Sun 9 Oct 11

Voice of Concern says...

loosehead wrote:
Voice of Concern wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
Loosehead, Denham wasn't against Academies per se, he was against a Christian company (Oasis) as he was backing his old uni stooges as part of the Southampton Education Trust. SET are not exactly doing a good job at Chamberlayne School but that seems to be lost in his personal crusade against Oasis. Interesting that the outcome of his meeting with Steve Chalke was never published.
Against christian against the war in Iraq has he got a touch of bigotry there? Personally I wish the new Academy well but am annoyed that the school I went to no longer exists ( in name) I never saw Denham or Whitehead say anything when Bellemoor went & Upper Shirley was born ? still can't see why they needed to change the name with all the extra expense that incurs
John Denham was against the Oasis schools, along with both Dean's of the cities uni's, along with the biggest employers such as Carnival, Ford's and Skandia.

As for allowing John Denham allowing Labour to pillage this city, that would have prevented cuts, that complete tosh, Eric Pickles on the orders of George Osborn and in turn David Cameron are inflicting these cuts.

Remember this Loosehead,,,, the Tories and Lib Dems when in opposition fully supported the Government handling of the economy, only when cocoa the clown and the rest of the circus came to power did they complain and play the blame game, that is something they continue to do because they don't have any answers to the worldwide debt crisis.
I guess you have a brain & can add up so let me put it to you again for many years Labour took £10million a year from Southampton & sent it up North you with me so far? if this council had that money & the Coalition said were taking £25million from your budget that would equate to only 15 million You still with me? but after having to make cuts syphon off things like leisure to cut costs to save the money that was going up North an election took place & then they were told to cut 25million this year,the cuts they could have made which would have not lead to industrial disputes already had been done through Labours need to subsidise the North through the South now even you must be able to see without the pillaging done by Labour on Southampton & the South we would be in a far better p
Please spare the attempt at satire, the Tory sell off leisure services had nothing to do with central Government, its the Tory way.

Please spare me the cuts are John Denham fault as well.

Government would have cut more, if Southampton City Council had more in it's budget Eric Pickkles looked at council budgets and reserves nationwide those with biggest got cut the most.

The cuts are not affecting this councils ability to borrow, Sea City Museum for instance.

No I'm not politically blinkered, this debate started about John Denham, I would say he has done more the people of Itchen than you and me put together.

Any joy with the bin job?
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Voice of Concern[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: Loosehead, Denham wasn't against Academies per se, he was against a Christian company (Oasis) as he was backing his old uni stooges as part of the Southampton Education Trust. SET are not exactly doing a good job at Chamberlayne School but that seems to be lost in his personal crusade against Oasis. Interesting that the outcome of his meeting with Steve Chalke was never published.[/p][/quote]Against christian against the war in Iraq has he got a touch of bigotry there? Personally I wish the new Academy well but am annoyed that the school I went to no longer exists ( in name) I never saw Denham or Whitehead say anything when Bellemoor went & Upper Shirley was born ? still can't see why they needed to change the name with all the extra expense that incurs[/p][/quote]John Denham was against the Oasis schools, along with both Dean's of the cities uni's, along with the biggest employers such as Carnival, Ford's and Skandia. As for allowing John Denham allowing Labour to pillage this city, that would have prevented cuts, that complete tosh, Eric Pickles on the orders of George Osborn and in turn David Cameron are inflicting these cuts. Remember this Loosehead,,,, the Tories and Lib Dems when in opposition fully supported the Government handling of the economy, only when cocoa the clown and the rest of the circus came to power did they complain and play the blame game, that is something they continue to do because they don't have any answers to the worldwide debt crisis.[/p][/quote]I guess you have a brain & can add up so let me put it to you again for many years Labour took £10million a year from Southampton & sent it up North you with me so far? if this council had that money & the Coalition said were taking £25million from your budget that would equate to only 15 million You still with me? but after having to make cuts syphon off things like leisure to cut costs to save the money that was going up North an election took place & then they were told to cut 25million this year,the cuts they could have made which would have not lead to industrial disputes already had been done through Labours need to subsidise the North through the South now even you must be able to see without the pillaging done by Labour on Southampton & the South we would be in a far better p[lace than we are now or are your political views so blinkered you can't see it?[/p][/quote]Please spare the attempt at satire, the Tory sell off leisure services had nothing to do with central Government, its the Tory way. Please spare me the cuts are John Denham fault as well. Government would have cut more, if Southampton City Council had more in it's budget Eric Pickkles looked at council budgets and reserves nationwide those with biggest got cut the most. The cuts are not affecting this councils ability to borrow, Sea City Museum for instance. No I'm not politically blinkered, this debate started about John Denham, I would say he has done more the people of Itchen than you and me put together. Any joy with the bin job? Voice of Concern

8:45pm Sun 9 Oct 11

callcopse says...

Every time I have had any dealings with him he has been sincere and well meaning. I respected his stance on Iraq more than almost any other member of the Labour government. **** right I'll be sad to see him go.
Every time I have had any dealings with him he has been sincere and well meaning. I respected his stance on Iraq more than almost any other member of the Labour government. **** right I'll be sad to see him go. callcopse

9:13pm Sun 9 Oct 11

loosehead says...

Voice of Concern wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Voice of Concern wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
Loosehead, Denham wasn't against Academies per se, he was against a Christian company (Oasis) as he was backing his old uni stooges as part of the Southampton Education Trust. SET are not exactly doing a good job at Chamberlayne School but that seems to be lost in his personal crusade against Oasis. Interesting that the outcome of his meeting with Steve Chalke was never published.
Against christian against the war in Iraq has he got a touch of bigotry there? Personally I wish the new Academy well but am annoyed that the school I went to no longer exists ( in name) I never saw Denham or Whitehead say anything when Bellemoor went & Upper Shirley was born ? still can't see why they needed to change the name with all the extra expense that incurs
John Denham was against the Oasis schools, along with both Dean's of the cities uni's, along with the biggest employers such as Carnival, Ford's and Skandia.

As for allowing John Denham allowing Labour to pillage this city, that would have prevented cuts, that complete tosh, Eric Pickles on the orders of George Osborn and in turn David Cameron are inflicting these cuts.

Remember this Loosehead,,,, the Tories and Lib Dems when in opposition fully supported the Government handling of the economy, only when cocoa the clown and the rest of the circus came to power did they complain and play the blame game, that is something they continue to do because they don't have any answers to the worldwide debt crisis.
I guess you have a brain & can add up so let me put it to you again for many years Labour took £10million a year from Southampton & sent it up North you with me so far? if this council had that money & the Coalition said were taking £25million from your budget that would equate to only 15 million You still with me? but after having to make cuts syphon off things like leisure to cut costs to save the money that was going up North an election took place & then they were told to cut 25million this year,the cuts they could have made which would have not lead to industrial disputes already had been done through Labours need to subsidise the North through the South now even you must be able to see without the pillaging done by Labour on Southampton & the South we would be in a far better p
Please spare the attempt at satire, the Tory sell off leisure services had nothing to do with central Government, its the Tory way.

Please spare me the cuts are John Denham fault as well.

Government would have cut more, if Southampton City Council had more in it's budget Eric Pickkles looked at council budgets and reserves nationwide those with biggest got cut the most.

The cuts are not affecting this councils ability to borrow, Sea City Museum for instance.

No I'm not politically blinkered, this debate started about John Denham, I would say he has done more the people of Itchen than you and me put together.

Any joy with the bin job?
Sorry I realise your a hopeless case.all the years Labour was in government,all the years Denham was a Southampton MP in government his party never took £10million pounds a year from this city to give to the North so how can we expect him to stand up & argue for it's return? Mosely was pro Nazi wasn't he ? wasn't he hated? Saddam was dropping chemical bombs on Shia's & killing Kurds but it's wrong to stop a tyrant under false pretences isn't it ? maybe we shouldn't have been bombing Gaddafi's forces neither? This guy had principles when it came to appeasing the muslim voter ( prove it didn't gain muslim votes) but couldn't use those same principles for this city.how many years were Labour in? I know it was longer but just times £10 by £10 you get £100 put million on the back & that's the least that was taken from this city & he never fought to get it back.just think of what that could have done for thornhill,Millbrook & many estates in this city & then go on about Eric Pickles. Then remember who left us with the debt to pay off! LABOUR & DENHAM
[quote][p][bold]Voice of Concern[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Voice of Concern[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: Loosehead, Denham wasn't against Academies per se, he was against a Christian company (Oasis) as he was backing his old uni stooges as part of the Southampton Education Trust. SET are not exactly doing a good job at Chamberlayne School but that seems to be lost in his personal crusade against Oasis. Interesting that the outcome of his meeting with Steve Chalke was never published.[/p][/quote]Against christian against the war in Iraq has he got a touch of bigotry there? Personally I wish the new Academy well but am annoyed that the school I went to no longer exists ( in name) I never saw Denham or Whitehead say anything when Bellemoor went & Upper Shirley was born ? still can't see why they needed to change the name with all the extra expense that incurs[/p][/quote]John Denham was against the Oasis schools, along with both Dean's of the cities uni's, along with the biggest employers such as Carnival, Ford's and Skandia. As for allowing John Denham allowing Labour to pillage this city, that would have prevented cuts, that complete tosh, Eric Pickles on the orders of George Osborn and in turn David Cameron are inflicting these cuts. Remember this Loosehead,,,, the Tories and Lib Dems when in opposition fully supported the Government handling of the economy, only when cocoa the clown and the rest of the circus came to power did they complain and play the blame game, that is something they continue to do because they don't have any answers to the worldwide debt crisis.[/p][/quote]I guess you have a brain & can add up so let me put it to you again for many years Labour took £10million a year from Southampton & sent it up North you with me so far? if this council had that money & the Coalition said were taking £25million from your budget that would equate to only 15 million You still with me? but after having to make cuts syphon off things like leisure to cut costs to save the money that was going up North an election took place & then they were told to cut 25million this year,the cuts they could have made which would have not lead to industrial disputes already had been done through Labours need to subsidise the North through the South now even you must be able to see without the pillaging done by Labour on Southampton & the South we would be in a far better p[lace than we are now or are your political views so blinkered you can't see it?[/p][/quote]Please spare the attempt at satire, the Tory sell off leisure services had nothing to do with central Government, its the Tory way. Please spare me the cuts are John Denham fault as well. Government would have cut more, if Southampton City Council had more in it's budget Eric Pickkles looked at council budgets and reserves nationwide those with biggest got cut the most. The cuts are not affecting this councils ability to borrow, Sea City Museum for instance. No I'm not politically blinkered, this debate started about John Denham, I would say he has done more the people of Itchen than you and me put together. Any joy with the bin job?[/p][/quote]Sorry I realise your a hopeless case.all the years Labour was in government,all the years Denham was a Southampton MP in government his party never took £10million pounds a year from this city to give to the North so how can we expect him to stand up & argue for it's return? Mosely was pro Nazi wasn't he ? wasn't he hated? Saddam was dropping chemical bombs on Shia's & killing Kurds but it's wrong to stop a tyrant under false pretences isn't it ? maybe we shouldn't have been bombing Gaddafi's forces neither? This guy had principles when it came to appeasing the muslim voter ( prove it didn't gain muslim votes) but couldn't use those same principles for this city.how many years were Labour in? I know it was longer but just times £10 by £10 you get £100 put million on the back & that's the least that was taken from this city & he never fought to get it back.just think of what that could have done for thornhill,Millbrook & many estates in this city & then go on about Eric Pickles. Then remember who left us with the debt to pay off! LABOUR & DENHAM loosehead

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