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Hunt campaigners press for lifting of ban
10:27am Tuesday 27th December 2011 in News
The New Forest Hounds before their hunt on Boxing Day.
Hampshire campaigners have stepped up their bid to get the hunting ban scrapped, on the biggest day of the bloodsport season.
Organisers of the New Forest Hounds meet spoke out against the law yesterday, after dozens of keen hunters and hundreds more spectators joined the traditional Boxing Day event.
Their call came after hunting minister Jim Paice also called for the ban to be lifted.
Dr Graham Ferris, honorary secretary of the group, said attendance at this year’s event was “as I big as I can remember”. He added: “The numbers are going up, not just in the New Forest, but across the country. When there’s time available, the Government will hold a vote and I’m confident that we will win that vote.”
An estimated 250,000 people attended traditional Boxing Day meets across the UK yesterday – the seventh since hunting with dogs was outlawed by the previous Labour Government.
But the League Against Cruel Sports spoke out in favour of the ban, saying that public support for it has been “overwhelmingly high.”
In a poll commissioned by the charity, 69 per cent agreed the ban on hunting wild animals with dogs should remain.
Joe Duckworth, chief executive, said: “It comes as no surprise that the public has shown there is no appetite to waste parliamentary time on voting to repeal the Hunting Act.”
Comments(33)
billyboy21
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11:58am Tue 27 Dec 11
Family Man
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12:19pm Tue 27 Dec 11
I hope and pray that enough opposition can be pulled together to thwart them, including their Lib partners.
There can be no moral justification whatsoever for hunting in this manner which should go the way of bull baiting, **** fighting and public executions.
If foxes are indeed a problem, shooting is far far better, not pursuing unto exhaustion and death by being ripped apart or being dug out of their earths.
TEBOURBA
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1:09pm Tue 27 Dec 11
Torchie1
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1:27pm Tue 27 Dec 11
Family Man wrote:I think you'll find that Paice has expressed a personal opinion rather than acted as a spokesman for government policy. If you want to take advantage of your beliefs why not ask the local bookmaker if he'll accept a bet and see what odds he'll give you?
Did anyone really expect anything else from a Conservative government? The only surprise is that it took so long for them to get this moving.
I hope and pray that enough opposition can be pulled together to thwart them, including their Lib partners.
There can be no moral justification whatsoever for hunting in this manner which should go the way of bull baiting, **** fighting and public executions.
If foxes are indeed a problem, shooting is far far better, not pursuing unto exhaustion and death by being ripped apart or being dug out of their earths.
SPIKEISLANDTRADER
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1:58pm Tue 27 Dec 11
dont let this RETURN.
E V E R
Stillness
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2:36pm Tue 27 Dec 11
freefinker
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2:57pm Tue 27 Dec 11
Stillness wrote:A quick web-search puts the UK population at 62,218,761 in 2010.
Can the Echo please now report how many people DID NOT turn out to support the hunts?
So, about 61,968,761 is your answer - i.e 99.6% of the population
ToastyTea
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3:03pm Tue 27 Dec 11
J.P.M
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3:11pm Tue 27 Dec 11
Now, can we forget about them, and get on with the real issues in life?
Stillness
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3:14pm Tue 27 Dec 11
freefinker wrote:Thank you. You can be my official researcher from now on. Consider yourself employed lol.
Stillness wrote:A quick web-search puts the UK population at 62,218,761 in 2010.
Can the Echo please now report how many people DID NOT turn out to support the hunts?
So, about 61,968,761 is your answer - i.e 99.6% of the population
ToastyTea
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3:24pm Tue 27 Dec 11
J.P.M wrote:you're right it is perverse. I (like most people) get not pleasure from seeing animals in pain, infact it saddens me. To see a fox ripped apart by dogs makes me sick just thinking about it, yet these people enjoy it.
These are perverted people, who get pleasure from bullying the defenseless. This pastime belongs to a bygone age, when witches were drowned, and leeches were used to draw satan out of poor people.
Now, can we forget about them, and get on with the real issues in life?
Stillness
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3:51pm Tue 27 Dec 11
Linesman
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4:03pm Tue 27 Dec 11
rightway
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4:31pm Tue 27 Dec 11
If this is the case then shouldn’t the police and the mental health authorities be taking a closer look at these people who enjoy this sick voyeurism of animal cruelty.
Better they are detained now than wait until they progress with their sick acts of cruelty to members of the public.
Stillness
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4:41pm Tue 27 Dec 11
Linesman wrote:That wont happen. They don't attack their own.
If they are so keen to reduce the vermin population, why the hell don't they concentrate on rats?
geoff51
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8:21pm Tue 27 Dec 11
I for one would gladly vote for the return of hunting with dogs as i would gladly vote to leave the EU.
I am sick of the destruction of everything that is good about this country and the loss of the traditions and attitudes that make us great.
Stillness
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8:43pm Tue 27 Dec 11
geoff51 wrote:I can understand your point of view, but only by accepting that even people with no sense of decency and those that don't care if animals are made to suffer so they can get their rocks off are still entitled to a point of view. How the hell does chasing animals make us great? What made us great was slavery and exploitation, perhaps you would like those reintroduced as well.
Many years ago I had the priveledge to hunt with the Hursley hunt from Romsey Square on more than one Boxing day. I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and the tradition and it was a sad day when envy and class politics destroyed this.
I for one would gladly vote for the return of hunting with dogs as i would gladly vote to leave the EU.
I am sick of the destruction of everything that is good about this country and the loss of the traditions and attitudes that make us great.
geoff51
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8:53pm Tue 27 Dec 11
Stillness wrote:All I am saying is I am proud to be British an all its traditions good and bad.
geoff51 wrote:I can understand your point of view, but only by accepting that even people with no sense of decency and those that don't care if animals are made to suffer so they can get their rocks off are still entitled to a point of view. How the hell does chasing animals make us great? What made us great was slavery and exploitation, perhaps you would like those reintroduced as well.
Many years ago I had the priveledge to hunt with the Hursley hunt from Romsey Square on more than one Boxing day. I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and the tradition and it was a sad day when envy and class politics destroyed this.
I for one would gladly vote for the return of hunting with dogs as i would gladly vote to leave the EU.
I am sick of the destruction of everything that is good about this country and the loss of the traditions and attitudes that make us great.
I refuse to bend to the excusers and apologists that deny our past and its part in making this country what it is today.
Do not ever deny your past its your childrens future
geoff51
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8:53pm Tue 27 Dec 11
Stillness wrote:All I am saying is I am proud to be British an all its traditions good and bad.
geoff51 wrote:I can understand your point of view, but only by accepting that even people with no sense of decency and those that don't care if animals are made to suffer so they can get their rocks off are still entitled to a point of view. How the hell does chasing animals make us great? What made us great was slavery and exploitation, perhaps you would like those reintroduced as well.
Many years ago I had the priveledge to hunt with the Hursley hunt from Romsey Square on more than one Boxing day. I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and the tradition and it was a sad day when envy and class politics destroyed this.
I for one would gladly vote for the return of hunting with dogs as i would gladly vote to leave the EU.
I am sick of the destruction of everything that is good about this country and the loss of the traditions and attitudes that make us great.
I refuse to bend to the excusers and apologists that deny our past and its part in making this country what it is today.
Do not ever deny your past its your childrens future
Stillness
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8:58pm Tue 27 Dec 11
geoff51 wrote:I don't deny the past, I just choose not to live in it. I don't want my children working in mills and climbing chimneys thank you very much.
Stillness wrote:All I am saying is I am proud to be British an all its traditions good and bad.
geoff51 wrote:I can understand your point of view, but only by accepting that even people with no sense of decency and those that don't care if animals are made to suffer so they can get their rocks off are still entitled to a point of view. How the hell does chasing animals make us great? What made us great was slavery and exploitation, perhaps you would like those reintroduced as well.
Many years ago I had the priveledge to hunt with the Hursley hunt from Romsey Square on more than one Boxing day. I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and the tradition and it was a sad day when envy and class politics destroyed this.
I for one would gladly vote for the return of hunting with dogs as i would gladly vote to leave the EU.
I am sick of the destruction of everything that is good about this country and the loss of the traditions and attitudes that make us great.
I refuse to bend to the excusers and apologists that deny our past and its part in making this country what it is today.
Do not ever deny your past its your childrens future
geoff51
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9:12pm Tue 27 Dec 11
Stillness wrote:Now you are being silly, all I wish is that we are proud to be British and all that entails, and not deny our heritage.
geoff51 wrote:I don't deny the past, I just choose not to live in it. I don't want my children working in mills and climbing chimneys thank you very much.
Stillness wrote:All I am saying is I am proud to be British an all its traditions good and bad.
geoff51 wrote:I can understand your point of view, but only by accepting that even people with no sense of decency and those that don't care if animals are made to suffer so they can get their rocks off are still entitled to a point of view. How the hell does chasing animals make us great? What made us great was slavery and exploitation, perhaps you would like those reintroduced as well.
Many years ago I had the priveledge to hunt with the Hursley hunt from Romsey Square on more than one Boxing day. I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and the tradition and it was a sad day when envy and class politics destroyed this.
I for one would gladly vote for the return of hunting with dogs as i would gladly vote to leave the EU.
I am sick of the destruction of everything that is good about this country and the loss of the traditions and attitudes that make us great.
I refuse to bend to the excusers and apologists that deny our past and its part in making this country what it is today.
Do not ever deny your past its your childrens future
Is that too much to ask?
SPIKEISLANDTRADER
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9:55pm Tue 27 Dec 11
geoff51
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10:02pm Tue 27 Dec 11
SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:WHY?
JOIN , the league AGAINST blood sports , support and STOP IT .
Stillness
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10:06pm Tue 27 Dec 11
geoff51 wrote:Because geoff as I previously said, everyone is entitled to their point of view.
SPIKEISLANDTRADER wrote:WHY?
JOIN , the league AGAINST blood sports , support and STOP IT .
Artina
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2:00am Wed 28 Dec 11
geoff51 wrote:Dear man, you can still enjoy the thrill of hounds and horses, just not after live prey. Class politics and envy you say, oh do grow up. People are not envious of you riding about on a horse, they are sickened by what the fox endures for a few peoples pleasure.
Many years ago I had the priveledge to hunt with the Hursley hunt from Romsey Square on more than one Boxing day. I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and the tradition and it was a sad day when envy and class politics destroyed this.
I for one would gladly vote for the return of hunting with dogs as i would gladly vote to leave the EU.
I am sick of the destruction of everything that is good about this country and the loss of the traditions and attitudes that make us great.
opera phantom
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3:04pm Wed 28 Dec 11
Artina wrote:You can hide behind all the diversions
geoff51 wrote:Dear man, you can still enjoy the thrill of hounds and horses, just not after live prey. Class politics and envy you say, oh do grow up. People are not envious of you riding about on a horse, they are sickened by what the fox endures for a few peoples pleasure.
Many years ago I had the priveledge to hunt with the Hursley hunt from Romsey Square on more than one Boxing day. I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and the tradition and it was a sad day when envy and class politics destroyed this.
I for one would gladly vote for the return of hunting with dogs as i would gladly vote to leave the EU.
I am sick of the destruction of everything that is good about this country and the loss of the traditions and attitudes that make us great.
that Hunts try to create, but one logical
fact remains.
Any one who gets pleasure from
terrorizing and or killing any living
creature for FUN is just simply
SICK IN THE HEAD and you know that to
be the case. How would you feel if a
group of yobs chased and then killed
your cat and said they did it for
fun.They would be no sicker than you
opera phantom
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3:47pm Wed 28 Dec 11
geoff51 wrote:Oh dear, Geoff51 and others like him
Stillness wrote:Now you are being silly, all I wish is that we are proud to be British and all that entails, and not deny our heritage.
geoff51 wrote:I don't deny the past, I just choose not to live in it. I don't want my children working in mills and climbing chimneys thank you very much.
Stillness wrote:All I am saying is I am proud to be British an all its traditions good and bad.
geoff51 wrote:I can understand your point of view, but only by accepting that even people with no sense of decency and those that don't care if animals are made to suffer so they can get their rocks off are still entitled to a point of view. How the hell does chasing animals make us great? What made us great was slavery and exploitation, perhaps you would like those reintroduced as well.
Many years ago I had the priveledge to hunt with the Hursley hunt from Romsey Square on more than one Boxing day. I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and the tradition and it was a sad day when envy and class politics destroyed this.
I for one would gladly vote for the return of hunting with dogs as i would gladly vote to leave the EU.
I am sick of the destruction of everything that is good about this country and the loss of the traditions and attitudes that make us great.
I refuse to bend to the excusers and apologists that deny our past and its part in making this country what it is today.
Do not ever deny your past its your childrens future
Is that too much to ask?
really do struggle to justify their sadism.
Why can they not just accept that when
they look in the mirror they see the face
of a sadist. They say foxes are vermin.
Well I have met many a keen gardener
who see cats in the same light. But they
do not kill them for even a sound reason
let alone for fun.
To accuse me of not being proud to be
British is an insult. Sorry Geoff51 but people who hunt animals for sport are
Sickos and need help.
geoff51
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8:02pm Wed 28 Dec 11
If you wish to debate the opposing view I would be pleased to do so with you but do not attack me on a personal level for my views.
Stillness
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9:13pm Wed 28 Dec 11
geoff51 wrote:Wow I'm impressed with the amount of time you have spent working out your latest post. Unfortunately you have made a very common error. You have resorted to criticizing people without checking your earlier posts where you where doing exactly the thing you are criticizing them for doing. This confirms my worst fears. You have lost the plot (again).
When you people who call me a sicko and call me names in the same ilk have already lost the arguement as once you resort to insulting rather than debating the opposite view on an intelligent level you have run out of points to raise.
If you wish to debate the opposing view I would be pleased to do so with you but do not attack me on a personal level for my views.
geoff51
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9:38pm Wed 28 Dec 11
Stillness wrote:There is a difference between critisizing and insulting and at no time have I insulted any poster unlike you who have just insulted me.
geoff51 wrote:Wow I'm impressed with the amount of time you have spent working out your latest post. Unfortunately you have made a very common error. You have resorted to criticizing people without checking your earlier posts where you where doing exactly the thing you are criticizing them for doing. This confirms my worst fears. You have lost the plot (again).
When you people who call me a sicko and call me names in the same ilk have already lost the arguement as once you resort to insulting rather than debating the opposite view on an intelligent level you have run out of points to raise.
If you wish to debate the opposing view I would be pleased to do so with you but do not attack me on a personal level for my views.
You may think I have lost the plot but at least I have not the argument unlike yourself.
Stillness
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10:08pm Wed 28 Dec 11
geoff51 wrote:You implied that I am an excuser (not convinced that that is a word) and an apologist. If I was one of the few that decide to be offended I may well have said that what you said was insulting.
Stillness wrote:There is a difference between critisizing and insulting and at no time have I insulted any poster unlike you who have just insulted me.
geoff51 wrote:Wow I'm impressed with the amount of time you have spent working out your latest post. Unfortunately you have made a very common error. You have resorted to criticizing people without checking your earlier posts where you where doing exactly the thing you are criticizing them for doing. This confirms my worst fears. You have lost the plot (again).
When you people who call me a sicko and call me names in the same ilk have already lost the arguement as once you resort to insulting rather than debating the opposite view on an intelligent level you have run out of points to raise.
If you wish to debate the opposing view I would be pleased to do so with you but do not attack me on a personal level for my views.
You may think I have lost the plot but at least I have not the argument unlike yourself.
RadicalEmu
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10:33pm Wed 28 Dec 11
geoff51 wrote:Let's not stray from reality here.
Many years ago I had the priveledge to hunt with the Hursley hunt from Romsey Square on more than one Boxing day. I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and the tradition and it was a sad day when envy and class politics destroyed this.
I for one would gladly vote for the return of hunting with dogs as i would gladly vote to leave the EU.
I am sick of the destruction of everything that is good about this country and the loss of the traditions and attitudes that make us great.
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Hunting was banned on the grounds of hideous, unnecessary cruelty.
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Class politics are being used to try to bring it back.
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- Scientific and medical research have made us a "great nation".
- Technological advancement has made us a "great nation".
- Tearing foxes apart for some bizarre excuse for fun has had nothing to do with anything that has made us a "great nation". It has, however, made many of us ashamed of our past.
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