Free Titanic museum tickets for city residents (From Daily Echo)

Sounds good, looking forward it.
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Just waiting for first moron to post "white elephant" now...

Goooood Look fwd to going.

Wow thats great! Look forwards to the opening :D

Hmm, once you have been there for free, would you go again and pay for it?
So it will be left to 'tourists' and visitors to pay, and cover the upkeep.
Wonder how many outsiders will go?

What about the families of 1 adult and many many kids? Do they just choose their favourite 3 kids?

I'll be there in pin stripe suit, mobile phone, umbrella, bowler hat...

I hope that there are plenty of souvenirs and memorobilia to be purchased and stored for use on the Antiques Road Show in fifty years time!

Is that the SO post code or Just Southampton ?

Totton Ric wrote:
Is that the SO post code or Just Southampton ?

Good point. I live in Eastleigh so will I get tickets?

Well done the council.Brilliant advert that will give the Sea City museum a great start. It will bring in lots of tourists from cruise ships, plus others from surrounding areas.Lets be proud of our great city, stop knocking people that are working hard to Southampton even more successful.

Saintcosser wrote:

Totton Ric wrote:
Is that the SO post code or Just Southampton ?

Good point. I live in Eastleigh so will I get tickets?

Hopefully only the Southampton residents who pay Council Tax to Southampton ........ as a third of the cost is being paid for by us ...... as stated on BBC today

Just a small point, the ship that sank was the OLYMPIC .

Lone Ranger. wrote:

Saintcosser wrote:

Totton Ric wrote: Is that the SO post code or Just Southampton ?

Good point. I live in Eastleigh so will I get tickets?

Hopefully only the Southampton residents who pay Council Tax to Southampton ........ as a third of the cost is being paid for by us ...... as stated on BBC today

Oooooo handbag........

The Salv wrote:
Sounds good, looking forward it. . Just waiting for first moron to post "white elephant" now...

Wheres "Southy" when you need him ?????

Saintcosser wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

Saintcosser wrote:

Totton Ric wrote: Is that the SO post code or Just Southampton ?

Good point. I live in Eastleigh so will I get tickets?

Hopefully only the Southampton residents who pay Council Tax to Southampton ........ as a third of the cost is being paid for by us ...... as stated on BBC today

Oooooo handbag........

Big handbag ... and not afraid to use it

Lone Ranger. wrote:

Saintcosser wrote:

Totton Ric wrote:
Is that the SO post code or Just Southampton ?

Good point. I live in Eastleigh so will I get tickets?

Hopefully only the Southampton residents who pay Council Tax to Southampton ........ as a third of the cost is being paid for by us ...... as stated on BBC today

Could you please show me exactly what was said as otherwise it's only hear say isn't it?
I have quoted BBC news in the past & have been told to prove it & been called a liar.
I watch the BBC & didn't see this so does this make you a liar? or is it the case I didn't watch the 18-30 news?

a and e wrote:
Just a small point, the ship that sank was the OLYMPIC .

No.......It was TITANIC
"Olympic" was in service until 1935 and was used as a troopship during the first World War .

There has got to be some catch in why Tory run council, which is cutting services destroying jobs, pleading poverty and asking workers to accept pay cuts is also going to give away tickets to Titanic Museum for free
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Because there is greater chance of a vulture giving away the meat from its beak than cut crazy Tories providing something to people without any catch in it
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Hannides Horror House is not going to be as popular as they predicted, so free entry will help in boosting the visitors figures and help the nasty party in saving its ugly face
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Unpopular CONservatives need votes for elections in May, so approximately £80000 will be the payment from public funds for that purpose. Call it whatever you like; clever contribution to slush fund, buying votes or immoral introduction of corruption into local democracy

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
There has got to be some catch in why Tory run council, which is cutting services destroying jobs, pleading poverty and asking workers to accept pay cuts is also going to give away tickets to Titanic Museum for free . Because there is greater chance of a vulture giving away the meat from its beak than cut crazy Tories providing something to people without any catch in it . Hannides Horror House is not going to be as popular as they predicted, so free entry will help in boosting the visitors figures and help the nasty party in saving its ugly face . Unpopular CONservatives need votes for elections in May, so approximately £80000 will be the payment from public funds for that purpose. Call it whatever you like; clever contribution to slush fund, buying votes or immoral introduction of corruption into local democracy

Oh yes.......I forgot about you !!

Theres your answer "The Salv"

If it was as fantastic as Royston and his cronies had suggested there would be no need for free tickets to get people in. Discounted tickets maybe but free tickets no way.
As a Totton resident I am glad my local council did not put up one third of the cost.
I, do indeed, see this as a white elephant.

Dasal wrote:

a and e wrote: Just a small point, the ship that sank was the OLYMPIC .

No.......It was TITANIC "Olympic" was in service until 1935 and was used as a troopship during the first World War .

I think he's been on the conspriacy juice....:-)

We should get in for free, everybody should. Council money funding, there are other ways to raise revenue than charging entrance fees. Save up to £25.00 it says - that is, in my opinion, way to much to be charging for even an upmarket museum.

For example we visit the art Gallery - not my choice but my son and OH like it. It is free, once they have browsed we generally head for the shop where I have an awful tendency to buy things then the cafe for snacks or a meal. If we had to pay we wouldn't go because son only goes if i am going to the Library and OH follows along and they both rely on me(men!) to decide where we are going and I wouldn't be paying to go round a gallery when I don't like looking at endless pictures. So SCC get money for free entry which they wouldn't get otherwise

If there were no free tickets the place would be deserted like the Marie Celeste

If there were no free tickets the place would be deserted like the Marie Celeste

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

Saintcosser wrote:

Totton Ric wrote:
Is that the SO post code or Just Southampton ?

Good point. I live in Eastleigh so will I get tickets?

Hopefully only the Southampton residents who pay Council Tax to Southampton ........ as a third of the cost is being paid for by us ...... as stated on BBC today

Could you please show me exactly what was said as otherwise it's only hear say isn't it?
I have quoted BBC news in the past & have been told to prove it & been called a liar.
I watch the BBC & didn't see this so does this make you a liar? or is it the case I didn't watch the 18-30 news?

No its not hearsay.
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You should listened/watched the South Today news at 06-30 this morning.
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Because you didnt see the news last night (it was not on then) that does not make me a liar.
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You can chuck your insults around as much as you like .... Or ... YOU prove that taxpayers money is NOT being used in the short or long term on this project

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
There has got to be some catch in why Tory run council, which is cutting services destroying jobs, pleading poverty and asking workers to accept pay cuts is also going to give away tickets to Titanic Museum for free
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Because there is greater chance of a vulture giving away the meat from its beak than cut crazy Tories providing something to people without any catch in it
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Hannides Horror House is not going to be as popular as they predicted, so free entry will help in boosting the visitors figures and help the nasty party in saving its ugly face
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Unpopular CONservatives need votes for elections in May, so approximately £80000 will be the payment from public funds for that purpose. Call it whatever you like; clever contribution to slush fund, buying votes or immoral introduction of corruption into local democracy

Don't you mean protecting services and jobs?

Southampton needs an attraction for the cruise crowd who regularly complain that apart from shopping there's little else to see or do in the city centre.

Family ticket £25 what a CON. Whilst I pay the full council tax with no discount my family should be entitled to free access with no restrictions.

Nice little vote catcher, the caring Tory council that let's its resident visit for free.

I would much rather forego my place and let every primary school in the city have one visit per year free, mind you school children can't vote, so that wouldn't happen.

Maybe Chris Huhne could be a tour guide, now that he has some spare time on his hands.

Over the Edge wrote:
Maybe Chris Huhne could be a tour guide, now that he has some spare time on his hands.

Or, get his ex to do it!

Condor Man wrote:
Southampton needs an attraction for the cruise crowd who regularly complain that apart from shopping there's little else to see or do in the city centre.

Not so sure that before going on a cruise I'd like to be reminded of the consequences of what happens when a ship goes down.
I agree that this marketing ploy is to avoid the deserted pictures upon opening.

Walter K wrote:

Condor Man wrote:
Southampton needs an attraction for the cruise crowd who regularly complain that apart from shopping there's little else to see or do in the city centre.

Not so sure that before going on a cruise I'd like to be reminded of the consequences of what happens when a ship goes down.
I agree that this marketing ploy is to avoid the deserted pictures upon opening.

Ha -ha , blinding comment , cruises and sinking ships is a very large shot in the foot statement writ large, maybe Liverpool might be less of a reminder of Davy Jones Locker !!!!

It is my guess that Southampton City Council will use the same distribution list to target all City of Southampton households that they used to deliver those pointless letters about waste collection and recycling!

Good news about the museum though... can't wait to go and see it! :o) - it's been a long time coming and I am glad that someone has done something bold in the city to attract some more people.

soton-mike80 wrote:
It is my guess that Southampton City Council will use the same distribution list to target all City of Southampton households that they used to deliver those pointless letters about waste collection and recycling!

Good news about the museum though... can't wait to go and see it! :o) - it's been a long time coming and I am glad that someone has done something bold in the city to attract some more people.

Agree, it is FANTASTIC News about the Museum. And I agree, it is about time someone did something BOLD in the City to attract people! After 30 years of inactivity by previous Labour councils, we are now seeing action, progress and planning for the future - that is Fabulous News for every City of Southampton resident!!
(Imagine, there are some City of Southampton residents who would like Labour back in for more of the same inactivity - beggars belief!!!!)
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Have a look at the future of the City of Southampton on :-

http://www.southampt
on.gov.uk/s-environm
ent/future/ccplans/v
ipproj/default.aspx

and

http://www.southampt
on.gov.uk/s-environm
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cvision.aspx

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P.S.
Actually I thought the information about waste collection and re-cycling was excellent, especially as I didn't know I could put tins in! (Been taking them to a re-cycling point!).

a and e wrote:

Walter K wrote:

Condor Man wrote: Southampton needs an attraction for the cruise crowd who regularly complain that apart from shopping there's little else to see or do in the city centre.

Not so sure that before going on a cruise I'd like to be reminded of the consequences of what happens when a ship goes down. I agree that this marketing ploy is to avoid the deserted pictures upon opening.

Ha -ha , blinding comment , cruises and sinking ships is a very large shot in the foot statement writ large, maybe Liverpool might be less of a reminder of Davy Jones Locker !!!!

Maybe we could have a temp exhibit of the sinking (although not technically a sinking) of the Costa Concordia and celebrate the people that have died on that too?

Dasal wrote:

a and e wrote:
Just a small point, the ship that sank was the OLYMPIC .

No.......It was TITANIC
"Olympic" was in service until 1935 and was used as a troopship during the first World War .

think youll find it was the titanic used as a troopship ,they just swapped nameplates ,a insurance con,not mentioning all the bankers who went to their doom who opposed the fraudulent federal reserve , the story is far more intriguing than most think.

What's a "MUSUEM"?

I wish people would stop referring to it as the Titanic Museum It is the Sea City Museum and the Titanic Exhibition is just one part of the museum and the Titanic part is only there for one year before a lot of the exhibits are returned to their owners!

Condor Man wrote:
Southampton needs an attraction for the cruise crowd who regularly complain that apart from shopping there's little else to see or do in the city centre.

I have been on a number of cruises, to various countries, and it was not the museums that people headed for, and certainly not ones that were more than a mile from where the ship was berthed.

George4th wrote:

soton-mike80 wrote:
It is my guess that Southampton City Council will use the same distribution list to target all City of Southampton households that they used to deliver those pointless letters about waste collection and recycling!

Good news about the museum though... can't wait to go and see it! :o) - it's been a long time coming and I am glad that someone has done something bold in the city to attract some more people.

Agree, it is FANTASTIC News about the Museum. And I agree, it is about time someone did something BOLD in the City to attract people! After 30 years of inactivity by previous Labour councils, we are now seeing action, progress and planning for the future - that is Fabulous News for every City of Southampton resident!!
(Imagine, there are some City of Southampton residents who would like Labour back in for more of the same inactivity - beggars belief!!!!)
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Have a look at the future of the City of Southampton on :-

http://www.southampt

on.gov.uk/s-environm

ent/future/ccplans/v

ipproj/default.aspx

and

http://www.southampt

on.gov.uk/s-environm

ent/future/ccplans/c

cvision.aspx

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P.S.
Actually I thought the information about waste collection and re-cycling was excellent, especially as I didn't know I could put tins in! (Been taking them to a re-cycling point!).

Why do you insist on putting the same links up most of time, this is a news thread, your putting links to very old news, that really are just pie in the sky plans. It's boring George.

As for information on re-cycling being excellent, I suggest you get a life.

Glad to see my pay cut has been well spent, giving free handouts to all the unemployedpeople that don't pay taxes. Well done R.S. Election due soon I am sure all these people will vote for you --NOT--

The Salv wrote:
Sounds good, looking forward it.
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Just waiting for first moron to post "white elephant" now...

You appear to be the first who thinks that, just because a cash-strapped City Council is giving away £80,000 worth of free entry to people who would normally be expected to pay an admission fee, it will not be a White Elephant.

If a new restaurant opens, and gives away free meals on the first day, the odds are that, if the food was good, many would return as customers.

How many people do you think will take advantage of a free visit to this museum and make return visits when they will be asked to pay?

My forecast is that it will be a 'Two Month' wonder, and that it will be many years before that £80,000 is recouped.

As a matter of interest, I wonder how many visits you have made to the Tudor House Museum.

What a joke you lot are! the people who are against this & that toe rag Williams the Labour leader.
Liverpool have announced they will pay back £9million to the government with their council tax payers money & are looking to start in three months.
The council here have invested through grants & fund raising or private money on a new Art complex,Cultural quarter,A new sea city museum & the expansion of the art gallery .the expansion of the Mayflower park & improvements to Town Quay & the proposed overhaul of the train station.
Yet you would rather we had Williams & Labour in power who would spend money on the old to get votes rather than try to bring in tourists & events to bring in more private jobs & to secure our cruise industry with the thousands of jobs lost if we lose it all to Liverpool.
What's the left wings dream? only public sector workers? Labour never fought for two major employers in this city & now are more concerned about their unite buddies than all the rest of us well I hope to christ the people in this city can see that & will bring us back to the most forward thinking council we've had for decades & that means voting Tory

Certain comments on this site appear to suggest some people would be happy if the Sea City Museum failed. How sad don't you want Southampton to succeed?
Do you want the 40 people employed here to lose their jobs? For years people complained we did not have enough attractions, now we have a new one and a major development around the town centre. Well done the Council you are doing a great job under difficult circumstances.

Councillor John Hannides, “This is a fantastic project and will put Southampton firmly in the national spotlight, attracting tens of thousands of people from around the world to our city,

I don't know who to the believe more, Chris Huhne, Harry Redknapp or John Hannides?

Put Southampton in the spotlight?

Councillor John Hannides, “This is a fantastic project and will put Southampton firmly in the national spotlight, attracting tens of thousands of people from around the world to our city,

I don't know who to believe more, Chris Huhne, Harry Redknapp or John Hannides?

Put Southampton in the spotlight

loosehead wrote:
What a joke you lot are! the people who are against this & that toe rag Williams the Labour leader.
Liverpool have announced they will pay back £9million to the government with their council tax payers money & are looking to start in three months.
The council here have invested through grants & fund raising or private money on a new Art complex,Cultural quarter,A new sea city museum & the expansion of the art gallery .the expansion of the Mayflower park & improvements to Town Quay & the proposed overhaul of the train station.
Yet you would rather we had Williams & Labour in power who would spend money on the old to get votes rather than try to bring in tourists & events to bring in more private jobs & to secure our cruise industry with the thousands of jobs lost if we lose it all to Liverpool.
What's the left wings dream? only public sector workers? Labour never fought for two major employers in this city & now are more concerned about their unite buddies than all the rest of us well I hope to christ the people in this city can see that & will bring us back to the most forward thinking council we've had for decades & that means voting Tory

You still have not produced your evidence that £5m IS NOT from the taxpayers ....... Now i wonder why.
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Oh the rest of your post is the normal re-cycled garbage.
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Talking of re-cycled ..... did you know that you can put tind in your bin !! ...... Fascinating for some posters !!!!

aldermoorboy wrote:
Certain comments on this site appear to suggest some people would be happy if the Sea City Museum failed. How sad don't you want Southampton to succeed? Do you want the 40 people employed here to lose their jobs? For years people complained we did not have enough attractions, now we have a new one and a major development around the town centre. Well done the Council you are doing a great job under difficult circumstances.

On the contrary, I think EVERYONE who posts here would be delighted if it was a roaring success.

The real problem is, most of us don't think it will be- and that we personally will end up footing the bill for it. Worse, the Council will have to cut essential services which people NEED simply to make its budget balance having committed itself to this scheme.

Over the Edge wrote:

George4th wrote:

soton-mike80 wrote:
It is my guess that Southampton City Council will use the same distribution list to target all City of Southampton households that they used to deliver those pointless letters about waste collection and recycling!

Good news about the museum though... can't wait to go and see it! :o) - it's been a long time coming and I am glad that someone has done something bold in the city to attract some more people.

Agree, it is FANTASTIC News about the Museum. And I agree, it is about time someone did something BOLD in the City to attract people! After 30 years of inactivity by previous Labour councils, we are now seeing action, progress and planning for the future - that is Fabulous News for every City of Southampton resident!!
(Imagine, there are some City of Southampton residents who would like Labour back in for more of the same inactivity - beggars belief!!!!)
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Have a look at the future of the City of Southampton on :-

http://www.southampt


on.gov.uk/s-environm


ent/future/ccplans/v


ipproj/default.aspx

and

http://www.southampt


on.gov.uk/s-environm


ent/future/ccplans/c


cvision.aspx

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P.S.
Actually I thought the information about waste collection and re-cycling was excellent, especially as I didn't know I could put tins in! (Been taking them to a re-cycling point!).

Why do you insist on putting the same links up most of time, this is a news thread, your putting links to very old news, that really are just pie in the sky plans. It's boring George.

As for information on re-cycling being excellent, I suggest you get a life.

You and Linesman are a couple of happy people!
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Still, anyone who wishes the return of a Labour council must have been asleep for 30 years during which time the Labour incumbents sat on their hands and did absolutely nothing!
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Take a look around Southampton - go on! - tell me what the Labour councils did to make the City of Southampton Citizens proud of their City? Tell me what they did to encourage businesses to set up in Southampton? Tell me what investment they made in Southampton? Tell me what they did to encourage Tourists? Tell me what they did to benefit the economy of the City? Please tell me - I'd to know just in case some good Southampton folk are daft enough to vote them in again!!!!!

George4th wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

George4th wrote:

soton-mike80 wrote:
It is my guess that Southampton City Council will use the same distribution list to target all City of Southampton households that they used to deliver those pointless letters about waste collection and recycling!

Good news about the museum though... can't wait to go and see it! :o) - it's been a long time coming and I am glad that someone has done something bold in the city to attract some more people.

Agree, it is FANTASTIC News about the Museum. And I agree, it is about time someone did something BOLD in the City to attract people! After 30 years of inactivity by previous Labour councils, we are now seeing action, progress and planning for the future - that is Fabulous News for every City of Southampton resident!!
(Imagine, there are some City of Southampton residents who would like Labour back in for more of the same inactivity - beggars belief!!!!)
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Have a look at the future of the City of Southampton on :-

http://www.southampt



on.gov.uk/s-environm



ent/future/ccplans/v



ipproj/default.aspx

and

http://www.southampt



on.gov.uk/s-environm



ent/future/ccplans/c



cvision.aspx

>
P.S.
Actually I thought the information about waste collection and re-cycling was excellent, especially as I didn't know I could put tins in! (Been taking them to a re-cycling point!).

Why do you insist on putting the same links up most of time, this is a news thread, your putting links to very old news, that really are just pie in the sky plans. It's boring George.

As for information on re-cycling being excellent, I suggest you get a life.

You and Linesman are a couple of happy people!
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Still, anyone who wishes the return of a Labour council must have been asleep for 30 years during which time the Labour incumbents sat on their hands and did absolutely nothing!
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Take a look around Southampton - go on! - tell me what the Labour councils did to make the City of Southampton Citizens proud of their City? Tell me what they did to encourage businesses to set up in Southampton? Tell me what investment they made in Southampton? Tell me what they did to encourage Tourists? Tell me what they did to benefit the economy of the City? Please tell me - I'd to know just in case some good Southampton folk are daft enough to vote them in again!!!!!

Yes! I am a happy person - generally, but I am not a happy person when a great deal of money is wasted on an ego-trip.

This is not a case of Labour v Tory v LibDem v Green Party v Uncle Tom Cobbleigh, it is because was brought up during a period of austerity after WWII, and I consider that in the current financial climate, the money would have been better spend on something of use.

George4th wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

George4th wrote:

soton-mike80 wrote:
It is my guess that Southampton City Council will use the same distribution list to target all City of Southampton households that they used to deliver those pointless letters about waste collection and recycling!

Good news about the museum though... can't wait to go and see it! :o) - it's been a long time coming and I am glad that someone has done something bold in the city to attract some more people.

Agree, it is FANTASTIC News about the Museum. And I agree, it is about time someone did something BOLD in the City to attract people! After 30 years of inactivity by previous Labour councils, we are now seeing action, progress and planning for the future - that is Fabulous News for every City of Southampton resident!!
(Imagine, there are some City of Southampton residents who would like Labour back in for more of the same inactivity - beggars belief!!!!)
>
Have a look at the future of the City of Southampton on :-

http://www.southampt



on.gov.uk/s-environm



ent/future/ccplans/v



ipproj/default.aspx

and

http://www.southampt



on.gov.uk/s-environm



ent/future/ccplans/c



cvision.aspx

>
P.S.
Actually I thought the information about waste collection and re-cycling was excellent, especially as I didn't know I could put tins in! (Been taking them to a re-cycling point!).

Why do you insist on putting the same links up most of time, this is a news thread, your putting links to very old news, that really are just pie in the sky plans. It's boring George.

As for information on re-cycling being excellent, I suggest you get a life.

You and Linesman are a couple of happy people!
>
Still, anyone who wishes the return of a Labour council must have been asleep for 30 years during which time the Labour incumbents sat on their hands and did absolutely nothing!
>
Take a look around Southampton - go on! - tell me what the Labour councils did to make the City of Southampton Citizens proud of their City? Tell me what they did to encourage businesses to set up in Southampton? Tell me what investment they made in Southampton? Tell me what they did to encourage Tourists? Tell me what they did to benefit the economy of the City? Please tell me - I'd to know just in case some good Southampton folk are daft enough to vote them in again!!!!!

I'm as happy as Larry thank you.

I see an eyesore folly being built using other peoples money, money that the people of the city will have to pay back, we were told by this council and it's leader this folly wouldn't cost anything,
I see a council who have failed to bring in private investment to build the folly.

You make the assumption that I am a Labour supporter, well George I am not one of those nor do I sit on the fence like a Lib Dem.

I just things as they are, I also see a council defunct of any ideas other making cuts to services and jobs and who because of the leaders arrogance thousands of people made to suffer during the bin strike and put children at risk because they tried to cuts children's social services to the bone.

I see ordinary people losing their livelihoods, because this council can't afford to pay them, whilst this council employ a PR guru and a Chief Executive on more money than the previous Chief Exec and making up a post of PR guru.

I see a council who allowed churches to take over two schools, against the advice of the educational and business institution's of the city, those schools were run into ground depriving children a decent standard.

I see a council take credit for a regeneration programme that really had nothing to do with them, unless of course you class creaming off millions because they held the budget as an accountable body making a difference.

I see a council that removed almost all youth services and workers across the whole city.

I see a council who have let those most in need down by making cuts and closing down adult social care homes and making cuts in home help services.

They did all this whilst they commissioned architects to draw plans for future that they no chance of achieving.

So continue to give us the links to the pipe drem, whilst I live in the here and now and believe in what has happened not what might happen.

I notice that you and Linesman do not deny the incompetence of the Labour council we had for 30 years worth of abject failure.
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We live in a City which has been seriously neglected for 30 years and then when people come along and make things happen (privately funded), you criticise it! What a defeatist attitude?!
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For the first time in 30 years we have the chance to make this City a place that people want to live and work. (We have been losing our best people to other towns and cities and countries because there was nothing to keep our best people here)

Which people are they then that are leaving and going to other towns and cities..... got any facts to back it up with !!

George4th wrote:
I notice that you and Linesman do not deny the incompetence of the Labour council we had for 30 years worth of abject failure.
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We live in a City which has been seriously neglected for 30 years and then when people come along and make things happen (privately funded), you criticise it! What a defeatist attitude?!
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For the first time in 30 years we have the chance to make this City a place that people want to live and work. (We have been losing our best people to other towns and cities and countries because there was nothing to keep our best people here)

Two things:-

1. I did not realise that a previous Labour administration was the topic under discussion and

2. I cannot recall any Southampton City Council, of any political persuasion, embarking on such a massive gamble as this, which is unlikely to get a retun on the investment in our lifetime.

Portmouth City Council came under a lot of criticism for the money invested in the Spinnaker Tower, but that is attracting visitors to the City, and the British Tourist Board list it as one of it's attractions.

Can anyone seriously think that this museum with attract anything like the number of visitors?

could the funding for the free entrance, be paid from the sale of empty council properties, when they are vacated 5 a month are being disposed of, where is this money going?. i feel sorry for the people on the waiting list for a council house or flat. please ask your local mp.
as i cant get an answer.

Linesman wrote:

George4th wrote:
I notice that you and Linesman do not deny the incompetence of the Labour council we had for 30 years worth of abject failure.
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We live in a City which has been seriously neglected for 30 years and then when people come along and make things happen (privately funded), you criticise it! What a defeatist attitude?!
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For the first time in 30 years we have the chance to make this City a place that people want to live and work. (We have been losing our best people to other towns and cities and countries because there was nothing to keep our best people here)

Two things:-

1. I did not realise that a previous Labour administration was the topic under discussion and

2. I cannot recall any Southampton City Council, of any political persuasion, embarking on such a massive gamble as this, which is unlikely to get a retun on the investment in our lifetime.

Portmouth City Council came under a lot of criticism for the money invested in the Spinnaker Tower, but that is attracting visitors to the City, and the British Tourist Board list it as one of it's attractions.

Can anyone seriously think that this museum with attract anything like the number of visitors?

we were assured that no money for this would come from the tax payer! in fact we all knew that some would, in one form or another.

Of course it would be very satisfying if it were a success but I'd like to challenge some things.

1) the council won't 'issue' tickets I'm assuming and just send them out - they will have to find some method of people 'taking up the offer' which will cost money to administrate.
2) the council hold a database for council tax payers, I'm unclear whether they are permitted to use the data for this to send out other things not connected with council tax and billing......
3) City View is sent out through the post office and is not held on a database.
4) I think the council would be permitted to send out rubbish/recycling calendar because it is funded from council tax.....

Before the council go using data to score points for votes (or not as the case may be), someone ought to challenge whether they are permitted to use data for this kind of thing also.

I know for a fact that the data hounds in the council are very strict but I would be very interested to see/hear if they can do this......

I would also make a FoI application to see how many actually did take up the free ticket idea, and see how 'cost effective' it is, and ask the council how they are going to 'record' visitor numbers and highlight those who are using free tickets.

I cannot see this being viable over the long-term, sad as that fact is but am very angry that Hannides and co told lies about the funding and made assurances (including some of their stooges who post in these columns) that no taxpayers' money would be used for this!

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
What a joke you lot are! the people who are against this & that toe rag Williams the Labour leader.
Liverpool have announced they will pay back £9million to the government with their council tax payers money & are looking to start in three months.
The council here have invested through grants & fund raising or private money on a new Art complex,Cultural quarter,A new sea city museum & the expansion of the art gallery .the expansion of the Mayflower park & improvements to Town Quay & the proposed overhaul of the train station.
Yet you would rather we had Williams & Labour in power who would spend money on the old to get votes rather than try to bring in tourists & events to bring in more private jobs & to secure our cruise industry with the thousands of jobs lost if we lose it all to Liverpool.
What's the left wings dream? only public sector workers? Labour never fought for two major employers in this city & now are more concerned about their unite buddies than all the rest of us well I hope to christ the people in this city can see that & will bring us back to the most forward thinking council we've had for decades & that means voting Tory

You still have not produced your evidence that £5m IS NOT from the taxpayers ....... Now i wonder why.
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Oh the rest of your post is the normal re-cycled garbage.
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Talking of re-cycled ..... did you know that you can put tind in your bin !! ...... Fascinating for some posters !!!!

Funny yet again you can only answer a question with a question.
the selling of the Millbrook industrial estate is going towards the sea city museum & grants & fund raising has gone to build it so the only money you can be talking about is the money for that industrial estate as no money was taken from council tax payers or council workers.
So there you go thats where that supposed £5million came from so now tell me what evidence have you got to prove me & the council wrong?

Over the Edge wrote:

George4th wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

George4th wrote:

soton-mike80 wrote:
It is my guess that Southampton City Council will use the same distribution list to target all City of Southampton households that they used to deliver those pointless letters about waste collection and recycling!

Good news about the museum though... can't wait to go and see it! :o) - it's been a long time coming and I am glad that someone has done something bold in the city to attract some more people.

Agree, it is FANTASTIC News about the Museum. And I agree, it is about time someone did something BOLD in the City to attract people! After 30 years of inactivity by previous Labour councils, we are now seeing action, progress and planning for the future - that is Fabulous News for every City of Southampton resident!!
(Imagine, there are some City of Southampton residents who would like Labour back in for more of the same inactivity - beggars belief!!!!)
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Have a look at the future of the City of Southampton on :-

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cvision.aspx

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P.S.
Actually I thought the information about waste collection and re-cycling was excellent, especially as I didn't know I could put tins in! (Been taking them to a re-cycling point!).

Why do you insist on putting the same links up most of time, this is a news thread, your putting links to very old news, that really are just pie in the sky plans. It's boring George.

As for information on re-cycling being excellent, I suggest you get a life.

You and Linesman are a couple of happy people!
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Still, anyone who wishes the return of a Labour council must have been asleep for 30 years during which time the Labour incumbents sat on their hands and did absolutely nothing!
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Take a look around Southampton - go on! - tell me what the Labour councils did to make the City of Southampton Citizens proud of their City? Tell me what they did to encourage businesses to set up in Southampton? Tell me what investment they made in Southampton? Tell me what they did to encourage Tourists? Tell me what they did to benefit the economy of the City? Please tell me - I'd to know just in case some good Southampton folk are daft enough to vote them in again!!!!!

I'm as happy as Larry thank you.

I see an eyesore folly being built using other peoples money, money that the people of the city will have to pay back, we were told by this council and it's leader this folly wouldn't cost anything,
I see a council who have failed to bring in private investment to build the folly.

You make the assumption that I am a Labour supporter, well George I am not one of those nor do I sit on the fence like a Lib Dem.

I just things as they are, I also see a council defunct of any ideas other making cuts to services and jobs and who because of the leaders arrogance thousands of people made to suffer during the bin strike and put children at risk because they tried to cuts children's social services to the bone.

I see ordinary people losing their livelihoods, because this council can't afford to pay them, whilst this council employ a PR guru and a Chief Executive on more money than the previous Chief Exec and making up a post of PR guru.

I see a council who allowed churches to take over two schools, against the advice of the educational and business institution's of the city, those schools were run into ground depriving children a decent standard.

I see a council take credit for a regeneration programme that really had nothing to do with them, unless of course you class creaming off millions because they held the budget as an accountable body making a difference.

I see a council that removed almost all youth services and workers across the whole city.

I see a council who have let those most in need down by making cuts and closing down adult social care homes and making cuts in home help services.

They did all this whilst they commissioned architects to draw plans for future that they no chance of achieving.

So continue to give us the links to the pipe drem, whilst I live in the here and now and believe in what has happened not what might happen.

You see a council that allowed a church to take over two schools?
Do you mean Oasis? do you mean the same Christian organisation that Tony Blair asked to run schools?
Do you mean the same schools that Denham after his party was voted out of office along with his mate Whitehead fought to get these schools the go ahead from Michael Gove yet were fiercely against them when the Tory council bought it in.
Do you mean the same sx
chools who have just had great Sats results?
If you had followed the negotiations & industrial action you would know the council wanted to have the least amount of redundancies possible & put forward a proposal (5) of wage cuts to keep the job losses to a minimum. the unions wouldn't talk & ever since have written & said they were only interested in bringing about the end of this council.
So please don't accuse me of dribble or being blinkered as you seem to only see what the unions are telling you is the truth.
you say your not Labour so tell me have you noticed how Williams has changed his tune or am I lying about that?

Big Borlotto wrote:
could the funding for the free entrance, be paid from the sale of empty council properties, when they are vacated 5 a month are being disposed of, where is this money going?. i feel sorry for the people on the waiting list for a council house or flat. please ask your local mp.
as i cant get an answer.

Any money accrued from the sell of council homes go directly to Central Government.
The land that was sold to help finance this project is Millbrook Industrial estate

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
What a joke you lot are! the people who are against this & that toe rag Williams the Labour leader.
Liverpool have announced they will pay back £9million to the government with their council tax payers money & are looking to start in three months.
The council here have invested through grants & fund raising or private money on a new Art complex,Cultural quarter,A new sea city museum & the expansion of the art gallery .the expansion of the Mayflower park & improvements to Town Quay & the proposed overhaul of the train station.
Yet you would rather we had Williams & Labour in power who would spend money on the old to get votes rather than try to bring in tourists & events to bring in more private jobs & to secure our cruise industry with the thousands of jobs lost if we lose it all to Liverpool.
What's the left wings dream? only public sector workers? Labour never fought for two major employers in this city & now are more concerned about their unite buddies than all the rest of us well I hope to christ the people in this city can see that & will bring us back to the most forward thinking council we've had for decades & that means voting Tory

You still have not produced your evidence that £5m IS NOT from the taxpayers ....... Now i wonder why.
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Oh the rest of your post is the normal re-cycled garbage.
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Talking of re-cycled ..... did you know that you can put tind in your bin !! ...... Fascinating for some posters !!!!

Funny yet again you can only answer a question with a question.
the selling of the Millbrook industrial estate is going towards the sea city museum & grants & fund raising has gone to build it so the only money you can be talking about is the money for that industrial estate as no money was taken from council tax payers or council workers.
So there you go thats where that supposed £5million came from so now tell me what evidence have you got to prove me & the council wrong?

Still nothing from you except garbage again.
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18-45 yesterday (Friday) South Today part quote " The Council are still £5m short in their bid to raise the £15m .......
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You have produced NOTHING and are as blind as one or other posters that offer nothing to a debate

loosehead wrote:

Big Borlotto wrote:
could the funding for the free entrance, be paid from the sale of empty council properties, when they are vacated 5 a month are being disposed of, where is this money going?. i feel sorry for the people on the waiting list for a council house or flat. please ask your local mp.
as i cant get an answer.

Any money accrued from the sell of council homes go directly to Central Government.
The land that was sold to help finance this project is Millbrook Industrial estate

If that is the case, I would assume that Millbrook Industrial Estate was owned by Southampton City Council on behalf of Southampton Council Tax payers.

If it has been sold, and the money used to pay for this museum, then the City Council have done so on behalf of the Council Tax payers.

Giant puppet in Liverpool for Titanic anniversary
A giant puppet of a girl will lead three days of street theatre through Liverpool to commemorate the sinking of the Titanic.

The 30ft Little Girl Giant is part of a free event to mark the 100th anniversary of the maiden voyage of the liner, registered in Liverpool.

Sea Odyssey takes place on 20-22 April in areas around Anfield and Everton, Stanley Park and the city centre.

The giant will also explore areas near Liverpool and Everton football grounds

The giant puppet was part of the 2006 Sultan's Elephant event which was held in London.

Wendy Simon, Liverpool City Council's cabinet member for culture and tourism, said she hoped the event would "transform people's perceptions" of north Liverpool.

She said: "Tens of thousands of people visit the north end for football matches, but rarely spend any more time there, so this is the perfect opportunity to show off the area and its potential, and as a result, hopefully encourage investment.

"These will be the first steps towards significant regeneration and investment and the event will prove to be a real catalyst for positive change, not just for the area, but for the entire city."
'Most complex event'

The event, which is expected to attract around 250,000 people, will follow a route through Walton Lane, Vauxhall Road and take in the views of the city from the brow in Everton Park.

The performance will be produced by French company Royal de Luxe, which created the giant spider for the 2009 La Machine event in Liverpool.

Liverpool City Council said the event would be the most complex event it had ever staged.

Local residents, businesses and arts groups are being given help to prepare for the event through a scheme designed to help local people work together.

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-england-mer
seyside-16722961

I raise my half full glass to all those raising their half empty glasses!!!

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
What a joke you lot are! the people who are against this & that toe rag Williams the Labour leader.
Liverpool have announced they will pay back £9million to the government with their council tax payers money & are looking to start in three months.
The council here have invested through grants & fund raising or private money on a new Art complex,Cultural quarter,A new sea city museum & the expansion of the art gallery .the expansion of the Mayflower park & improvements to Town Quay & the proposed overhaul of the train station.
Yet you would rather we had Williams & Labour in power who would spend money on the old to get votes rather than try to bring in tourists & events to bring in more private jobs & to secure our cruise industry with the thousands of jobs lost if we lose it all to Liverpool.
What's the left wings dream? only public sector workers? Labour never fought for two major employers in this city & now are more concerned about their unite buddies than all the rest of us well I hope to christ the people in this city can see that & will bring us back to the most forward thinking council we've had for decades & that means voting Tory

You still have not produced your evidence that £5m IS NOT from the taxpayers ....... Now i wonder why.
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Oh the rest of your post is the normal re-cycled garbage.
.
Talking of re-cycled ..... did you know that you can put tind in your bin !! ...... Fascinating for some posters !!!!

Funny yet again you can only answer a question with a question.
the selling of the Millbrook industrial estate is going towards the sea city museum & grants & fund raising has gone to build it so the only money you can be talking about is the money for that industrial estate as no money was taken from council tax payers or council workers.
So there you go thats where that supposed £5million came from so now tell me what evidence have you got to prove me & the council wrong?

Still nothing from you except garbage again.
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18-45 yesterday (Friday) South Today part quote " The Council are still £5m short in their bid to raise the £15m .......
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You have produced NOTHING and are as blind as one or other posters that offer nothing to a debate

I can't believe you ! You call what I have to say Garbage well maybe you should stop reading my garbage so I don't have to reply to the C=ap you come out with so please crawl back into your bubble & dream of a country that's not £1trillion in debt & to fund every thing people like you & the unions & Labour party want would put us even deeper into the red .

Liverpools going to take at least £9million pounds from their tax payers to pay the tax man to bring cruise ships & tourists to their city & that's the Labour way of doing it.
This council have sold a non profit making Industrial estate which would cost a small fortune to upgrade & improve to attract customers( companies) to help finance a museum to attract tourists.
Belfast has been give Government money to build it's Titanic memorial we haven't so why the continuos slagging off of a forward thinking council after years of June Bridles Labour high taxing council?
everything they have built or are in the process of having built will provide jobs & with the increase in visitors to the city this should increase the jobs prospects of many city dwellers.
Labour want to favour votes but are scrapping OAP discount on tax yet go on about giving the money to OAP they talk with forked tongue.
Sooner or later the majority of people under Labour working in the private sector will be on the minimum wage which is 50% lower than the lowest paid public sector permanent worker.
So what! the public sector become the middle classed & their the only people who will have a job for live?
Some people on here can say what they like about other posters but they need to wake up to reality

Loosehead - I agree with your stance. If you look at towns and cities run by Labour, in nearly every instance, they are less successful, less attractive, less motivated, less likely to hold onto their best people.
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Minimum wage - it is absolutely the wrong thing in a free market country and is detrimental in the long term to those at the bottom end of society. All that is happening is that more people end up lumped on the minimum wage with fewer opportunities to move off it. What it is doing is persuading more employers to go for a "flat organisation" that cuts out layers of supervisors, managers etc. Less opportunity to move up acts as a de-motivator with people becoming disillusioned. etc etc etc.

loosehead wrote:
Liverpools going to take at least £9million pounds from their tax payers to pay the tax man to bring cruise ships & tourists to their city & that's the Labour way of doing it.
This council have sold a non profit making Industrial estate which would cost a small fortune to upgrade & improve to attract customers( companies) to help finance a museum to attract tourists.
Belfast has been give Government money to build it's Titanic memorial we haven't so why the continuos slagging off of a forward thinking council after years of June Bridles Labour high taxing council?
everything they have built or are in the process of having built will provide jobs & with the increase in visitors to the city this should increase the jobs prospects of many city dwellers.
Labour want to favour votes but are scrapping OAP discount on tax yet go on about giving the money to OAP they talk with forked tongue.
Sooner or later the majority of people under Labour working in the private sector will be on the minimum wage which is 50% lower than the lowest paid public sector permanent worker.
So what! the public sector become the middle classed & their the only people who will have a job for live?
Some people on here can say what they like about other posters but they need to wake up to reality

As an OAP, I would remind you that it is the current government that has dramatically cut the Winter Fuel Allowance, at a time when the cost of fuel has rocketed.

It is the current government that has been content to see that pensions have not kept pace with inflation, but have taken no action on bankers' pay and bonuses, leaving it to the media to shame the bankers into not accepting the bonus.

Whether you like it or not, the opposition are not in a position to scrap any discounts or raise any taxes, only those in power can do that.

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
What a joke you lot are! the people who are against this & that toe rag Williams the Labour leader.
Liverpool have announced they will pay back £9million to the government with their council tax payers money & are looking to start in three months.
The council here have invested through grants & fund raising or private money on a new Art complex,Cultural quarter,A new sea city museum & the expansion of the art gallery .the expansion of the Mayflower park & improvements to Town Quay & the proposed overhaul of the train station.
Yet you would rather we had Williams & Labour in power who would spend money on the old to get votes rather than try to bring in tourists & events to bring in more private jobs & to secure our cruise industry with the thousands of jobs lost if we lose it all to Liverpool.
What's the left wings dream? only public sector workers? Labour never fought for two major employers in this city & now are more concerned about their unite buddies than all the rest of us well I hope to christ the people in this city can see that & will bring us back to the most forward thinking council we've had for decades & that means voting Tory

You still have not produced your evidence that £5m IS NOT from the taxpayers ....... Now i wonder why.
.
Oh the rest of your post is the normal re-cycled garbage.
.
Talking of re-cycled ..... did you know that you can put tind in your bin !! ...... Fascinating for some posters !!!!

Funny yet again you can only answer a question with a question.
the selling of the Millbrook industrial estate is going towards the sea city museum & grants & fund raising has gone to build it so the only money you can be talking about is the money for that industrial estate as no money was taken from council tax payers or council workers.
So there you go thats where that supposed £5million came from so now tell me what evidence have you got to prove me & the council wrong?

Still nothing from you except garbage again.
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18-45 yesterday (Friday) South Today part quote " The Council are still £5m short in their bid to raise the £15m .......
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You have produced NOTHING and are as blind as one or other posters that offer nothing to a debate

I can't believe you ! You call what I have to say Garbage well maybe you should stop reading my garbage so I don't have to reply to the C=ap you come out with so please crawl back into your bubble & dream of a country that's not £1trillion in debt & to fund every thing people like you & the unions & Labour party want would put us even deeper into the red .

You are a COMPLETE IDIOT who is in total denial of the FACTS.
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Proven time and time again that the Council are using £5m of taxpayers money.
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Only you and one other can actually produce such a PATHETIC argument.
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Words escape me on how to describe such an ignoramus as yourself ... !!

Linesman wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Liverpools going to take at least £9million pounds from their tax payers to pay the tax man to bring cruise ships & tourists to their city & that's the Labour way of doing it.
This council have sold a non profit making Industrial estate which would cost a small fortune to upgrade & improve to attract customers( companies) to help finance a museum to attract tourists.
Belfast has been give Government money to build it's Titanic memorial we haven't so why the continuos slagging off of a forward thinking council after years of June Bridles Labour high taxing council?
everything they have built or are in the process of having built will provide jobs & with the increase in visitors to the city this should increase the jobs prospects of many city dwellers.
Labour want to favour votes but are scrapping OAP discount on tax yet go on about giving the money to OAP they talk with forked tongue.
Sooner or later the majority of people under Labour working in the private sector will be on the minimum wage which is 50% lower than the lowest paid public sector permanent worker.
So what! the public sector become the middle classed & their the only people who will have a job for live?
Some people on here can say what they like about other posters but they need to wake up to reality

As an OAP, I would remind you that it is the current government that has dramatically cut the Winter Fuel Allowance, at a time when the cost of fuel has rocketed.

It is the current government that has been content to see that pensions have not kept pace with inflation, but have taken no action on bankers' pay and bonuses, leaving it to the media to shame the bankers into not accepting the bonus.

Whether you like it or not, the opposition are not in a position to scrap any discounts or raise any taxes, only those in power can do that.

Linesman .......... Have you ever thought that you could be banging your head against a brick wall rather than trying to converse with someone who is in such denial ......
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I wish you every success

The Tory council needs to give the tickets away as no one wants to go to the new museum, the visitors want to go to Liverpool, Belfast and New York who will give them something to see.
Liverpool have had a Titanic exhibition for many years in its world class Maritime Museum.
What you need is a forward thinking Labour administration and not some hangers on from the coalition government.

scousertommy wrote:
The Tory council needs to give the tickets away as no one wants to go to the new museum, the visitors want to go to Liverpool, Belfast and New York who will give them something to see.
Liverpool have had a Titanic exhibition for many years in its world class Maritime Museum.
What you need is a forward thinking Labour administration and not some hangers on from the coalition government.

"What you need is a forward thinking Labour administration and not some hangers on from the coalition government."

Have you just landed on earth?!
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We had 30 years of councils doing absolutely zilch for the City of Southampton. It is why people who visit Southampton are critical of Southampton. The 30 years of neglect is there for all to see.
Who was in charge? Yes, the people you wish to see back in charge!!!!!

It is open discrimination. It was not so hospitable treatment of
tourists who are not from your town. My great-grandfather boarded the Titanic in this city I planned to visit and perhaps a presentation of paintings dedicated to the centennial anniversary of the tragedy, but definitely Southampton
not up to the event.
On Google type , Titanic at berth no 44 Southampton 1912th
You will see the extraordinary good artistic picture that I have devoted your town in honor of the hundredth anniversary of the tragedy, but someone did not want to present a picture in your city.

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
What a joke you lot are! the people who are against this & that toe rag Williams the Labour leader.
Liverpool have announced they will pay back £9million to the government with their council tax payers money & are looking to start in three months.
The council here have invested through grants & fund raising or private money on a new Art complex,Cultural quarter,A new sea city museum & the expansion of the art gallery .the expansion of the Mayflower park & improvements to Town Quay & the proposed overhaul of the train station.
Yet you would rather we had Williams & Labour in power who would spend money on the old to get votes rather than try to bring in tourists & events to bring in more private jobs & to secure our cruise industry with the thousands of jobs lost if we lose it all to Liverpool.
What's the left wings dream? only public sector workers? Labour never fought for two major employers in this city & now are more concerned about their unite buddies than all the rest of us well I hope to christ the people in this city can see that & will bring us back to the most forward thinking council we've had for decades & that means voting Tory

You still have not produced your evidence that £5m IS NOT from the taxpayers ....... Now i wonder why.
.
Oh the rest of your post is the normal re-cycled garbage.
.
Talking of re-cycled ..... did you know that you can put tind in your bin !! ...... Fascinating for some posters !!!!

Funny yet again you can only answer a question with a question.
the selling of the Millbrook industrial estate is going towards the sea city museum & grants & fund raising has gone to build it so the only money you can be talking about is the money for that industrial estate as no money was taken from council tax payers or council workers.
So there you go thats where that supposed £5million came from so now tell me what evidence have you got to prove me & the council wrong?

Still nothing from you except garbage again.
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18-45 yesterday (Friday) South Today part quote " The Council are still £5m short in their bid to raise the £15m .......
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You have produced NOTHING and are as blind as one or other posters that offer nothing to a debate

I can't believe you ! You call what I have to say Garbage well maybe you should stop reading my garbage so I don't have to reply to the C=ap you come out with so please crawl back into your bubble & dream of a country that's not £1trillion in debt & to fund every thing people like you & the unions & Labour party want would put us even deeper into the red .

You are a COMPLETE IDIOT who is in total denial of the FACTS.
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Proven time and time again that the Council are using £5m of taxpayers money.
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Only you and one other can actually produce such a PATHETIC argument.
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Words escape me on how to describe such an ignoramus as yourself ... !!

I have learnt that there are two ways to treat someone like you.
Time & time again I've answered your questions on many posts you have no real valid answer & you come out with name calling & insults which in a pub or face to face could lead to two actions one is we would come to blows.
the other is to know when you resort to name calling you've lost the argument & I've won & to walk away the winner.
As I feel resorting to physical violence is usually done by the person losing the argument & I know i've won GOODBYE & go & buy Big Issue it would agree with you.

Linesman wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Liverpools going to take at least £9million pounds from their tax payers to pay the tax man to bring cruise ships & tourists to their city & that's the Labour way of doing it.
This council have sold a non profit making Industrial estate which would cost a small fortune to upgrade & improve to attract customers( companies) to help finance a museum to attract tourists.
Belfast has been give Government money to build it's Titanic memorial we haven't so why the continuos slagging off of a forward thinking council after years of June Bridles Labour high taxing council?
everything they have built or are in the process of having built will provide jobs & with the increase in visitors to the city this should increase the jobs prospects of many city dwellers.
Labour want to favour votes but are scrapping OAP discount on tax yet go on about giving the money to OAP they talk with forked tongue.
Sooner or later the majority of people under Labour working in the private sector will be on the minimum wage which is 50% lower than the lowest paid public sector permanent worker.
So what! the public sector become the middle classed & their the only people who will have a job for live?
Some people on here can say what they like about other posters but they need to wake up to reality

As an OAP, I would remind you that it is the current government that has dramatically cut the Winter Fuel Allowance, at a time when the cost of fuel has rocketed.

It is the current government that has been content to see that pensions have not kept pace with inflation, but have taken no action on bankers' pay and bonuses, leaving it to the media to shame the bankers into not accepting the bonus.

Whether you like it or not, the opposition are not in a position to scrap any discounts or raise any taxes, only those in power can do that.

Linesman I don't know how much your pension & income is at the moment but didn't the rising of the tax threshold helped offset the cuts?
With future rises would that help?
My pensioner friend is upset as Labour want to scrap his 10% discount but if it would help stop the cuts to pensioners across the board I would agree with it

Really looking forward to going to the new museum, great idea to give local residents free tickets.

I cant stand the whingers who seem to wish the council didnt come up with wonderful projects such as the museum to put southampton on the map and attract tourists. We need more visitor attractions and more visionary thinking, well done!

This is the best thing for Southampton since West Quay and Ikea.

I am looking forward to the spitfire monument when they get round to it too. We need something to rival spinnaker tower.

I hope we get more ocean racing back to Southampton too.

Southampton has improved a lot over the years, and the range of restaurants and nightspots in the city is also now excellent.