Cash pours in to save mosque (From Daily Echo)

I thought they would have to put a b****y great thermometer outside to show how they are doing.

£10 from each worshiper, job done.

Stillness wrote:
I thought they would have to put a b****y great thermometer outside to show how they are doing.

.. it's OK, surprisingly, you can say bloody

freefinker wrote:

Stillness wrote:
I thought they would have to put a b****y great thermometer outside to show how they are doing.

.. it's OK, surprisingly, you can say bloody

Well I'll be bloody buggered.

Well, I'm very surprised that given that there are plenty of self-made very rich British muslims about, the people who run the Mosque were not home and dry financially, from the start. I mean do we really believe that not one, single millionaire/ss believer could not have easily have funded this? It doesn't say much for religous and intra-ethnic solidarity, does it? But then that's bl**dy religion for you!

Scrutinizer wrote:
Well, I'm very surprised that given that there are plenty of self-made very rich British muslims about, the people who run the Mosque were not home and dry financially, from the start. I mean do we really believe that not one, single millionaire/ss believer could not have easily have funded this? It doesn't say much for religous and intra-ethnic solidarity, does it? But then that's bl**dy religion for you!

I expect most of them are still quite skint after one of them did a runner with the money that was supposed to be put into building the other mosque around the corner a few years ago.

sotonlad has a good point, £10 each? btw, hope britgas dont make a habit of miscalculating, this coukd happen to any one of us!

I'm baffled how 2 Southampton mosques have had financial problems in recent years- the one across the road had ownership issues and this one can't pay a gas bill properly. All churches, regardless of denomination, have proper governance over their premises, they don't have to go running to their MP to sort their problems out.

Condor Man wrote:
I'm baffled how 2 Southampton mosques have had financial problems in recent years- the one across the road had ownership issues and this one can't pay a gas bill properly. All churches, regardless of denomination, have proper governance over their premises, they don't have to go running to their MP to sort their problems out.

I think you will find that the problem has arisen because they DID pay their gas bill properly. Perhaps we should all pay our gas bills with an additional 20% added on just in case the company sending the bills out is totally incompetent.

Condor Man wrote:
I'm baffled how 2 Southampton mosques have had financial problems in recent years- the one across the road had ownership issues and this one can't pay a gas bill properly. All churches, regardless of denomination, have proper governance over their premises, they don't have to go running to their MP to sort their problems out.

Again condorman you comment without reading the article properly.
They did pay what they were billed, it was 100% the fault of British gas so BG should foot the loss.

Scatgirl wrote:
sotonlad has a good point, £10 each? btw, hope britgas dont make a habit of miscalculating, this coukd happen to any one of us!

Unfortunately this scenario happens all too often and not just to BG, all gas companies have the same problem.

Part of the issue here is down to the company that fit and maintain the meters not updating the company that actually supplies the gas through that meter. The problem can then be compounded by customers switching back to a company that stills hold the records of an old meter that has been replaced whilst the customer was with a different supplier, or even the previous occupier of a property.

The breaking up of BG the create 'competiton' meant that under the rules imposed by the then Government, the company that supplies the gas cannot be responsible for the meter. A totally separate company, now companies, are responsible solely for the meters and the likes of BG, EON etc rely on them to supply them with accurate records of the meters and any exchanges done.

A lot of the time all goes smoothly, but when it goes wrong its spectacular and unfortunately the gas suppliers, BG et al, no longer have the staff to recognise the problem when it happens, so it is left to drag on and on until we read about things like this.

dolomiteman wrote:

Condor Man wrote:
I'm baffled how 2 Southampton mosques have had financial problems in recent years- the one across the road had ownership issues and this one can't pay a gas bill properly. All churches, regardless of denomination, have proper governance over their premises, they don't have to go running to their MP to sort their problems out.

Again condorman you comment without reading the article properly.
They did pay what they were billed, it was 100% the fault of British gas so BG should foot the loss.

My concern is about the running of this, and other mosques in Southampton. Other religious groups, be they Christian, Sikh or Hindu seem to have better organisation as there's still money outstanding regardless of the meter.

Young Greybeard wrote:

Scatgirl wrote: sotonlad has a good point, £10 each? btw, hope britgas dont make a habit of miscalculating, this coukd happen to any one of us!

Unfortunately this scenario happens all too often and not just to BG, all gas companies have the same problem. Part of the issue here is down to the company that fit and maintain the meters not updating the company that actually supplies the gas through that meter. The problem can then be compounded by customers switching back to a company that stills hold the records of an old meter that has been replaced whilst the customer was with a different supplier, or even the previous occupier of a property. The breaking up of BG the create 'competiton' meant that under the rules imposed by the then Government, the company that supplies the gas cannot be responsible for the meter. A totally separate company, now companies, are responsible solely for the meters and the likes of BG, EON etc rely on them to supply them with accurate records of the meters and any exchanges done. A lot of the time all goes smoothly, but when it goes wrong its spectacular and unfortunately the gas suppliers, BG et al, no longer have the staff to recognise the problem when it happens, so it is left to drag on and on until we read about things like this.

£10 from each worshipper would most certainly cover it......with money left over for the next bill!! Dont they get a Meter Reader round every 3 months like the rest of us ? They might have picked up that they still had an old meter....

Condor Man wrote:

dolomiteman wrote:

Condor Man wrote:
I'm baffled how 2 Southampton mosques have had financial problems in recent years- the one across the road had ownership issues and this one can't pay a gas bill properly. All churches, regardless of denomination, have proper governance over their premises, they don't have to go running to their MP to sort their problems out.

Again condorman you comment without reading the article properly.
They did pay what they were billed, it was 100% the fault of British gas so BG should foot the loss.

My concern is about the running of this, and other mosques in Southampton. Other religious groups, be they Christian, Sikh or Hindu seem to have better organisation as there's still money outstanding regardless of the meter.

Why is that a concern of yours?
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By the way, I've been into many a church that's been begging for cash for essential repairs.

RadicalEmu wrote:

Condor Man wrote:

dolomiteman wrote:

Condor Man wrote: I'm baffled how 2 Southampton mosques have had financial problems in recent years- the one across the road had ownership issues and this one can't pay a gas bill properly. All churches, regardless of denomination, have proper governance over their premises, they don't have to go running to their MP to sort their problems out.

Again condorman you comment without reading the article properly. They did pay what they were billed, it was 100% the fault of British gas so BG should foot the loss.

My concern is about the running of this, and other mosques in Southampton. Other religious groups, be they Christian, Sikh or Hindu seem to have better organisation as there's still money outstanding regardless of the meter.

Why is that a concern of yours? . By the way, I've been into many a church that's been begging for cash for essential repairs.

Nearly every church or religious group ask for money to support their upkeep as unlike a shop they are not selling any stock so need money to keep their building running, the mosque in question here have done everything they can to maintain their upkeep including paying the bills on time and thsi has only come to light becasuse of a mistake caused by someone supplying a service to them so in no way can the mosque be held accountable.

ironmaiden wrote:

Young Greybeard wrote:

Scatgirl wrote: sotonlad has a good point, £10 each? btw, hope britgas dont make a habit of miscalculating, this coukd happen to any one of us!

Unfortunately this scenario happens all too often and not just to BG, all gas companies have the same problem. Part of the issue here is down to the company that fit and maintain the meters not updating the company that actually supplies the gas through that meter. The problem can then be compounded by customers switching back to a company that stills hold the records of an old meter that has been replaced whilst the customer was with a different supplier, or even the previous occupier of a property. The breaking up of BG the create 'competiton' meant that under the rules imposed by the then Government, the company that supplies the gas cannot be responsible for the meter. A totally separate company, now companies, are responsible solely for the meters and the likes of BG, EON etc rely on them to supply them with accurate records of the meters and any exchanges done. A lot of the time all goes smoothly, but when it goes wrong its spectacular and unfortunately the gas suppliers, BG et al, no longer have the staff to recognise the problem when it happens, so it is left to drag on and on until we read about things like this.

£10 from each worshipper would most certainly cover it......with money left over for the next bill!! Dont they get a Meter Reader round every 3 months like the rest of us ? They might have picked up that they still had an old meter....

Yes, they will have had their meter read ironmaiden. This is what is so wrong with this situation. The meter was an old one, reading cubic feet consumed, with a four digit readout, the one BG thought they had was a newer model reading cubic metres consumed, with a five digit readout.
Easy to spot something is wrong then I can hear you shout.
You would think so but this was my point about not having staff experienced enough to spot what was happening here. Almost certainly the bill produced would be rejected by the system as incorrect, because the number of digits did not match, so someone would have to manually override the reading given so it made sense with the previous readings (ie having four digits and not five).
I have seen this sort of occurrence go unheeded for years before someone with a bit of nous (& time) digs a little deeper and realises what has been going on. A sad reflection where staff are not given the time to provide what they are supposedly employed to do; provide customer service!

As people have already said if these fairy tale believers want to keep their building for pointless worship (True worship does not require a building or shrine) then all they have to do is give £10 per attendee. Yes BG are complete 'tards and should take the hit for their mistake, but thats not going to happen, so those who attend can and are quite capable of saving.

The congregation and other committee members were not told of this gas bill, these 2 clowns went to the echo to satisfy their own egos, they just wanted to have their photo in the echo. The entire muslim community feel humiliated at what these hypocrites have done and have immensely embarrassed the patrons of this mosque. The committee is unelected, decisions are taken in secrecy by these two idiots who are far from pious - M Khan has spent most of his life in Southampton seeking solice in Scotch, Ahmad is oblivious to what Islam is really about and has no respect in the community. This latest stunt comes as no suprise to anyone this is self gratification and an arrogant act both unislamic. I can understand why people have made some of the comments. Please do not let what these two have done , a highly stupid act, reflect on the greater muslim community of this city. The committee of this mosque is corrupt to the core, these two attention seekers have humiliated all the people from their area of Pakistan, the Swat valley, who have hung their heads in shame. The worst part is that M Khan was not part of the muslim community in Southampton, he only began attending the mosque when he learnt his ablutions which took most of his life and then turns up and corrupts thecommittee,.harms the mosque and community. Ahmad is using the mosque