Neighbours forced family out of home (From Daily Echo)

While I sympathize with this woman's plight, I can't help but think she could have handled matters better.

Assuming (as it is fair to do) that her neighbours really were trying to make her life a misery, why didn't she simply rent the house out and move elsewhere? The rent might not have covered the mortgage, I admit, but the hope would be that at some point in the future the house could have been sold at a profit.

I'm sorry - I absolutely don't agree with the above post and can only assume that you have not had to live with a 'nightmare' neighbour. It's horrible when the sanctuary of your home is ripped away and you feel unsafe.

You cannot just 'rent a house out' when you have awful neighbours as tenants will not stay - and if you have involved the council and police, which is what you are supposed to do, you are legally obliged to inform tenants or prospective buyers of this.

I really feel for this family as I have been through a similar experience which drove me to nervous exhaustion. It's disgraceful that the council say that they have done all they can. It simply isn't good enough.

anglaise wrote:
I'm sorry - I absolutely don't agree with the above post and can only assume that you have not had to live with a 'nightmare' neighbour. It's horrible when the sanctuary of your home is ripped away and you feel unsafe.

You cannot just 'rent a house out' when you have awful neighbours as tenants will not stay - and if you have involved the council and police, which is what you are supposed to do, you are legally obliged to inform tenants or prospective buyers of this.

I really feel for this family as I have been through a similar experience which drove me to nervous exhaustion. It's disgraceful that the council say that they have done all they can. It simply isn't good enough.

I totally agree regarding informing future tenants or buyers of problem neighbours. This rule was bought in a few years back.

The best thing for anyone to do in these circumstances is to install a cheap CCTV system so you have proof. It also acts a deterrent even though they're probably all hoodies.

Most CCTV systems also record sound so at least you would have evidence of bad behaviour even if you don't catch the faces, it would force the Police to take a more active approach in dealing with the issue.

Good luck to this family in their new home.

I feel very sorry for the lady concerned having experienced the same situation for the last four years when the house next door to ours was rented to a problem one parent family. Having lived in that property for 37 years I suppose we were lucky that only the last 4 years were unpleasant to say the least and eventually we moved. Now we can sleep peacefully at night and don't have other people's children running around our garden after climbing a 7ft. fence. Woe betide us if we said anything to the parent as we were made to feel the guilty party.

anglaise wrote:
I'm sorry - I absolutely don't agree with the above post and can only assume that you have not had to live with a 'nightmare' neighbour. It's horrible when the sanctuary of your home is ripped away and you feel unsafe. You cannot just 'rent a house out' when you have awful neighbours as tenants will not stay - and if you have involved the council and police, which is what you are supposed to do, you are legally obliged to inform tenants or prospective buyers of this. I really feel for this family as I have been through a similar experience which drove me to nervous exhaustion. It's disgraceful that the council say that they have done all they can. It simply isn't good enough.

Yes, you CAN just rent a house out. Assuming the neighbours have a problem with this woman, they have a problem with HER and not a third party. I'm not suggesting that they will suddenly become good neighbours, but they are unlikely to annoy a stranger for the sake of it.

And as for difficulties renting, I think you'll find there is quite a shortage of housing in Southampton. Pitch the rent right and that property will be let in five minutes. Plus, you could (were you that way inclined) get some really obnoxious git to live there and get your own back on your former neighbours that way. If the property is THAT difficult to let, that is pretty much what is going to happen to it anyway.

As a matter of interest, exactly what extra action do you feel the Council should have taken in this instance?

I am the lady in this article and would just like to add that I could not rent out the house as it would have been against the terms of my mortgage. I could not sell the property for the reasons mentioned by some of you already. I did install cctv and some of the damage was caught on film but still the council/police could not act. The point of this article was to try and help others facing this type of problem so they are aware that doing what the council tell you to do ie. fill in logs is not enough, you have to phone them constantly. Dont rely on the council to tell you about other departments that might help - they expect you to find this out for yourself, record conversations that you have with case workers as they dont always log these calls and they will deny having said things. Listening to fights, really loud music, banging on your bedroom wall until 4am is bad enough when you have to get up at 6am for work - then add to this getting your windows smashed and other acts of vandalism and I challenge anyone to stay and put up with it.

sanddh wrote:
I am the lady in this article and would just like to add that I could not rent out the house as it would have been against the terms of my mortgage. I could not sell the property for the reasons mentioned by some of you already. I did install cctv and some of the damage was caught on film but still the council/police could not act. The point of this article was to try and help others facing this type of problem so they are aware that doing what the council tell you to do ie. fill in logs is not enough, you have to phone them constantly. Dont rely on the council to tell you about other departments that might help - they expect you to find this out for yourself, record conversations that you have with case workers as they dont always log these calls and they will deny having said things. Listening to fights, really loud music, banging on your bedroom wall until 4am is bad enough when you have to get up at 6am for work - then add to this getting your windows smashed and other acts of vandalism and I challenge anyone to stay and put up with it.

I wish you all the luck in your new home.

I would also continue with your complaints against the Council even if only to ensure similar things don't happen to others :-)

Good luck! x

Thank you Ironlady but I have exhausted the complaint process, it seems to be something you cant win with. I will however be doing all I can to draw attention to this type of problem, the system is heavily weighted in favour of the people causing the problems, there is simply not enough support for the victims. I am now a tenant myself and I know for a fact if I caused problems to my neighbours I would not get as many warnings as these people get before I would loose my home. Thank you for your support :-)

So sorry to read about your situation,sanddh. How disgusting that you have been let down by the system
I wish you all the best in your new home and hope you and your family can find happiness again.

And I hope the scum that drove you to this get their comeuppance,which,in time,I'm sure they will.

All the very best for the future.

sanddh wrote:
Thank you Ironlady but I have exhausted the complaint process, it seems to be something you cant win with. I will however be doing all I can to draw attention to this type of problem, the system is heavily weighted in favour of the people causing the problems, there is simply not enough support for the victims. I am now a tenant myself and I know for a fact if I caused problems to my neighbours I would not get as many warnings as these people get before I would loose my home. Thank you for your support :-)

I've just been going through The Echo archives and it does seem the Council are very slow to address these issues.

Some cases took 2 years before the Council took any action.

All the best for the future sanddh. I have awful neighbours here too. Neighbours have told my family not to park on the road near their house as it is 'their' space (despite it being public road) and when my daughter has she has had her car keyed, she now has loads of keyed scratches. The police say though its obvious who is doing it they can do nothing without proof and have advised us to park well away from the perpetrators so we now park outside our road even if we have shopping to carry in and there are spaces near our house. We can't afford the damage/loss. The perpetrators win unfortunately.

What is wrong with this Country of ours when scum win all of the time.
It is about time a company was set up, maybe by ex squaddies or boxers, who are all law abiding decent people but they would be willing to "pay a visit" to these scum and "Have a word in their ear" I am sure that after one visit from rent-a-mate the problems would disappear

Hello - I have set up a Facebook page to support Sandra and her family and try to raise awareness of the issue. If you would like to, please pledge your support by 'liking' the page and sharing it with your friends - it's amazing what us ordinary folk can achieve when we get together, so who knows what might happen? http://www.facebook.
com/Support.For.The.
Houston.Family

we lived in Millbrook, we call it Millbronx for 4 years over ten years ago, we had nothing but trouble, after my daughter refused to join a gang and beat up children that couldn't fight back, she had her head kicked in and had to have 7 xrays on her skull, and was even beat up in front of me when we were walking back from the tesco's, i had my now 13 year old son in the pram he was even threatened at a bus stop while he was 2 while we were waiting for a bus,
the police and the council ended up working together to get us out, they wanted me to stand up in court but i told them they have all the video evidence they need, and the people that was terrorising us could find out where we had moved to by following us or getting someone else to follow us from the court, they got evicted from their council house and was told they could not live in southampton and the nearest they could live would be basingstoke but heyho they moved to st mary's, as the live round the courner from my ex.
Good luck in your new home Sandra and family.

sanddh wrote:
I am the lady in this article and would just like to add that I could not rent out the house as it would have been against the terms of my mortgage. I could not sell the property for the reasons mentioned by some of you already. I did install cctv and some of the damage was caught on film but still the council/police could not act. The point of this article was to try and help others facing this type of problem so they are aware that doing what the council tell you to do ie. fill in logs is not enough, you have to phone them constantly. Dont rely on the council to tell you about other departments that might help - they expect you to find this out for yourself, record conversations that you have with case workers as they dont always log these calls and they will deny having said things. Listening to fights, really loud music, banging on your bedroom wall until 4am is bad enough when you have to get up at 6am for work - then add to this getting your windows smashed and other acts of vandalism and I challenge anyone to stay and put up with it.

I too sympathise, don't take any notice of a certain someone - he seems to spend all day on here and has the answer to EVERYTHING (allegedly!)....

I've also lived next to awful people in the past, and again the council were really slow to act and do anything about it.... I was able to move away luckily as I was only renting at the time. I wish you lots of luck in the future, and there's always the Ombudsman if you have exhausted complaints procedure ;)

thanks freemantlegirl2, it defo seems to be more of a problem than people realise. I did go to the ombudsman but to no avail, wont go into details but i it really wasnt worth the trouble.

Goldenwight wrote:

anglaise wrote:
I'm sorry - I absolutely don't agree with the above post and can only assume that you have not had to live with a 'nightmare' neighbour. It's horrible when the sanctuary of your home is ripped away and you feel unsafe. You cannot just 'rent a house out' when you have awful neighbours as tenants will not stay - and if you have involved the council and police, which is what you are supposed to do, you are legally obliged to inform tenants or prospective buyers of this. I really feel for this family as I have been through a similar experience which drove me to nervous exhaustion. It's disgraceful that the council say that they have done all they can. It simply isn't good enough.

Yes, you CAN just rent a house out. Assuming the neighbours have a problem with this woman, they have a problem with HER and not a third party. I'm not suggesting that they will suddenly become good neighbours, but they are unlikely to annoy a stranger for the sake of it.

And as for difficulties renting, I think you'll find there is quite a shortage of housing in Southampton. Pitch the rent right and that property will be let in five minutes. Plus, you could (were you that way inclined) get some really obnoxious git to live there and get your own back on your former neighbours that way. If the property is THAT difficult to let, that is pretty much what is going to happen to it anyway.

As a matter of interest, exactly what extra action do you feel the Council should have taken in this instance?

Goldenwight - I'd urge you to visit this website, which publicises staggering statistics about the extent of this problem. http://www.problemne
ighbours.co.uk/how-b
ig-problem-are-probl
em-neighbours.html
So far as I am aware, the neighbours were council tenants the council has a responsibility to ensure against anti-social behaviour - in the same way as a landlord would be responsible if his/her tenants were causing problems for the community.

anglaise wrote:

Goldenwight wrote:

anglaise wrote: I'm sorry - I absolutely don't agree with the above post and can only assume that you have not had to live with a 'nightmare' neighbour. It's horrible when the sanctuary of your home is ripped away and you feel unsafe. You cannot just 'rent a house out' when you have awful neighbours as tenants will not stay - and if you have involved the council and police, which is what you are supposed to do, you are legally obliged to inform tenants or prospective buyers of this. I really feel for this family as I have been through a similar experience which drove me to nervous exhaustion. It's disgraceful that the council say that they have done all they can. It simply isn't good enough.

Yes, you CAN just rent a house out. Assuming the neighbours have a problem with this woman, they have a problem with HER and not a third party. I'm not suggesting that they will suddenly become good neighbours, but they are unlikely to annoy a stranger for the sake of it. And as for difficulties renting, I think you'll find there is quite a shortage of housing in Southampton. Pitch the rent right and that property will be let in five minutes. Plus, you could (were you that way inclined) get some really obnoxious git to live there and get your own back on your former neighbours that way. If the property is THAT difficult to let, that is pretty much what is going to happen to it anyway. As a matter of interest, exactly what extra action do you feel the Council should have taken in this instance?

Goldenwight - I'd urge you to visit this website, which publicises staggering statistics about the extent of this problem. http://www.problemne ighbours.co.uk/how-b ig-problem-are-probl em-neighbours.html So far as I am aware, the neighbours were council tenants the council has a responsibility to ensure against anti-social behaviour - in the same way as a landlord would be responsible if his/her tenants were causing problems for the community.

you would think that that would be the case would'nt you but in reality it doesnt work like that, apparently "ultimately it is the people that carry out the anti social behaviour that are responsible for their actions" thanks for the support though it is heart warming.

Jack and his family don't deserve this to be done to them and whoever has been doing this should be very ashamed. Some people don't think about other people and just care about themselves. It is sickening just thinking about it. I am friends with Jack and he is a very kind boy to us.

just because the mortgage company has terms and conditions against renting doesn't mean you can't do it, i know several people who have, i would wager they would rather receive a monthly income than repossess the house as they always take a hit when it's sold at auction

Jack and his family don't deserve this to be done to them and whoever has been doing this should be very ashamed. Some people don't think about other people and just care about themselves. It is sickening just thinking about it. I am friends with Jack and he is a very kind boy to us.

derek james wrote:
just because the mortgage company has terms and conditions against renting doesn't mean you can't do it, i know several people who have, i would wager they would rather receive a monthly income than repossess the house as they always take a hit when it's sold at auction

Guess I'm just to honest to break a legal contract..... house was not sold at auction and the mortgage company are'nt taking the hit, I am - I am still having to pay the shortfall.

sanddh wrote:
I am the lady in this article and would just like to add that I could not rent out the house as it would have been against the terms of my mortgage. I could not sell the property for the reasons mentioned by some of you already. I did install cctv and some of the damage was caught on film but still the council/police could not act. The point of this article was to try and help others facing this type of problem so they are aware that doing what the council tell you to do ie. fill in logs is not enough, you have to phone them constantly. Dont rely on the council to tell you about other departments that might help - they expect you to find this out for yourself, record conversations that you have with case workers as they dont always log these calls and they will deny having said things. Listening to fights, really loud music, banging on your bedroom wall until 4am is bad enough when you have to get up at 6am for work - then add to this getting your windows smashed and other acts of vandalism and I challenge anyone to stay and put up with it.

I really don't understand this.
I bought a house & the terms of the mortgage were clear that I had to do certain work to the house.
I informed my neighbour & then as I moved in we did the work.
I watched a rugby game said a few choice words & forgot about it in my own house on my own.
My neighbour new I was on shift work but started playing Irish music on his organ at 23-00 hrs so I went down pumped up the volume & turned the music on. He reported me he went up into his loft & removed the fire wall & said it was my builder.I couldn't play music or talk to loudly in my own house.
My builder went to fix firewall & as he was putting in the bricks the other idiot was taking them so he got hit & the next day he had a black eye.
I phoned the council they said he reported me first so I didn't have a right to complain & if he could prove I was still making a noise I could end up in court & then maybe in jail.
So how come with photo evidence the police can't do anything?

Goldenwight wrote:
While I sympathize with this woman's plight, I can't help but think she could have handled matters better.

Assuming (as it is fair to do) that her neighbours really were trying to make her life a misery, why didn't she simply rent the house out and move elsewhere? The rent might not have covered the mortgage, I admit, but the hope would be that at some point in the future the house could have been sold at a profit.

First to comment yet again, and with your usual condemnation. Don't you have anything better to do?

sanddh wrote:

derek james wrote:
just because the mortgage company has terms and conditions against renting doesn't mean you can't do it, i know several people who have, i would wager they would rather receive a monthly income than repossess the house as they always take a hit when it's sold at auction

Guess I'm just to honest to break a legal contract..... house was not sold at auction and the mortgage company are'nt taking the hit, I am - I am still having to pay the shortfall.

sanndh.
So sorry to hear of your problem.
I am afraid that in situations like this
police and councils are hopeless.
They just don't do their job.
My advice to any one in a similar
situation is tell the police that you
have been a victim of racist abuse.
Then you will get half of the constabulary turn up your door step
Best wishes for the future

In all reality what can the Council do? the only people who have any power in this situation are the magistrates, this case should have gone to court and the perpetrators been punished the right way. I had a bad experience living on a private estate- they are almost as bad as the Council ones. Thankfully I moved when I first sniffed trouble.

sanddh wrote:
I am the lady in this article and would just like to add that I could not rent out the house as it would have been against the terms of my mortgage. I could not sell the property for the reasons mentioned by some of you already. I did install cctv and some of the damage was caught on film but still the council/police could not act. The point of this article was to try and help others facing this type of problem so they are aware that doing what the council tell you to do ie. fill in logs is not enough, you have to phone them constantly. Dont rely on the council to tell you about other departments that might help - they expect you to find this out for yourself, record conversations that you have with case workers as they dont always log these calls and they will deny having said things. Listening to fights, really loud music, banging on your bedroom wall until 4am is bad enough when you have to get up at 6am for work - then add to this getting your windows smashed and other acts of vandalism and I challenge anyone to stay and put up with it.

Hi sandra. I had an emergency management move from Harefield. I lost everything. 3 years of ASB, No one did anything. They beat my kids up, attacked me. Eventually they burgled me, stole all the kids xmas presents, that they had not even had the chance to open.I am 200 % with you. I went through absoulute hell. Letter box had to be nailed shut. I had an outside fire proof mail box. These scum bags have no idea of the ripple effect that they cause, by they're actions. The damage, pain, heartache and the damage they do to innocent young children that are growing up respectable. They should scoop up all these scum bags and stick them out on a desert island. leave them to live amongst themselves but with nothing. Trust me, what goes around comes around. Like me, you are lucky that you got out of that hell hole ( yes, i do know some areas are ok ) just not if your an outsider, or if you have a nice home with nice things. I am very sorry that you lost your home, i did too. hope things turn around for you. here's wishing you and your family all the best. take care xx

I can sympathise with you to a degree here sanddh. I grew up in Maybush (fortunately don’t live there anymore) and although our street was actually fairly nice I did have to put up with all sorts of abuse and harassment (as well as the occasional assault and some vicious rumour mongering) around the local area, including scumbags from the Lordshill, Coxford, Shirley Warren and Millbrook areas. All because I was different, shy and had nothing to do with local “gangs”. Sadly idiots like this see nice as a sign of weakness and do not tolerate differences (unless its differences they approve off). In an ideal world you shouldn’t have had to move, the authorities should be coming down hard on those causing the trouble and forcing them to move. Because they don’t the situation continues to get worse in this country and I can well foresee the emergence of vigilantism so long as those in power continue to take the softly softly approach to dealing with this type of problem.

mistyme wrote:

sanddh wrote:
I am the lady in this article and would just like to add that I could not rent out the house as it would have been against the terms of my mortgage. I could not sell the property for the reasons mentioned by some of you already. I did install cctv and some of the damage was caught on film but still the council/police could not act. The point of this article was to try and help others facing this type of problem so they are aware that doing what the council tell you to do ie. fill in logs is not enough, you have to phone them constantly. Dont rely on the council to tell you about other departments that might help - they expect you to find this out for yourself, record conversations that you have with case workers as they dont always log these calls and they will deny having said things. Listening to fights, really loud music, banging on your bedroom wall until 4am is bad enough when you have to get up at 6am for work - then add to this getting your windows smashed and other acts of vandalism and I challenge anyone to stay and put up with it.

Hi sandra. I had an emergency management move from Harefield. I lost everything. 3 years of ASB, No one did anything. They beat my kids up, attacked me. Eventually they burgled me, stole all the kids xmas presents, that they had not even had the chance to open.I am 200 % with you. I went through absoulute hell. Letter box had to be nailed shut. I had an outside fire proof mail box. These scum bags have no idea of the ripple effect that they cause, by they're actions. The damage, pain, heartache and the damage they do to innocent young children that are growing up respectable. They should scoop up all these scum bags and stick them out on a desert island. leave them to live amongst themselves but with nothing. Trust me, what goes around comes around. Like me, you are lucky that you got out of that hell hole ( yes, i do know some areas are ok ) just not if your an outsider, or if you have a nice home with nice things. I am very sorry that you lost your home, i did too. hope things turn around for you. here's wishing you and your family all the best. take care xx

Have to disagree with you slightly here mistyme. These people are very well aware of the ripple effect and the pain and suffering they cause. That’s one of the main reasons they do it, it gives them pleasure. It’s no different than a school bully in a playground; they get a power trip and a reputation.

thats because it's their pleasure because they lead sad lives. or should i say they don't have lives.i even went as far as the attorney general but no one does anything. even when caught red handed, it's yr word against theirs and there always more of them.

What on earth has happened over there? I moved away many years ago. I do not recall ever hearing about or having any problems with neighbors. We were taught to respect other people (and by "we" I mean everybody). If anyone caused a problem in the neighbourhood you could be sure they would be dealt with, usually by one or both parents. What has caused this problem over there?

because the council thought it be a good idea to put all the scum together in one place. stuck them all in one close. most are single parents that are either on drugs or drink and it's they're kids causing the issues over there.the parents are no different. the kids attacked my kids and the parents attacked me.they broke into my house 3/4 times.to take what i had because they knew we had a lovely home with lots of nice stuff. they sold it all for drink and drugs.the police are USELESS nor do they give a dam as long as it don't effect them.i was a single girl on my own and did not stand up to them. i am sorry but there is only one way to deal with scum like that and thats not to call the police as it just makes matters worse.you need to get hold of them and kick the crap out of them because as long as no one see's you and you have someone to back you up, police can't do i thing because thats how it works. if only i could put the clocks back. oh i would do things different. the only ones who loose are the victims like myself, the only ones who win, are the scum.society and the whole system failed.

It seems to me that the brothers Smith and Wesson could straighten this problem out quite quickly.

It seems to me that the brothers Smith and Wesson could straighten this problem out quite quickly.

This is where the system falls down. Good resident blighted by normally, just one scum family. We have had to deal with 2 problem neighbours in 32 years in the council house. (NOT all council tenants are a problem!! It happens on 'private' estates as well so don't tar the council tenant!) These 2 problem neighbours thankfully moved but the council at the time did b.ugger all! We now have one more problem neighbour and the best help we have had so far is our local councillor. Not the elected city council officer either. He's brilliant and opened doors for us that we didn't know existed and we are now dealing with the problem. Good luck to the lady and her son. We shouldn't have to deal with s.hite families in this day and age but as mentioned before in this post 'it's the perpetrators that win'. The system is all wrong. Once again good luck to this family.

bazzeroz wrote:
This is where the system falls down. Good resident blighted by normally, just one scum family. We have had to deal with 2 problem neighbours in 32 years in the council house. (NOT all council tenants are a problem!! It happens on 'private' estates as well so don't tar the council tenant!) These 2 problem neighbours thankfully moved but the council at the time did b.ugger all! We now have one more problem neighbour and the best help we have had so far is our local councillor. Not the elected city council officer either. He's brilliant and opened doors for us that we didn't know existed and we are now dealing with the problem. Good luck to the lady and her son. We shouldn't have to deal with s.hite families in this day and age but as mentioned before in this post 'it's the perpetrators that win'. The system is all wrong. Once again good luck to this family.

i no not all council estates are the same. some are lovely to live on hence i said not all areas. i was merely refering to one perticular area in harefield where there is a problem and has been for a long time.there should be zero tolerance.

mistyme wrote:

bazzeroz wrote: This is where the system falls down. Good resident blighted by normally, just one scum family. We have had to deal with 2 problem neighbours in 32 years in the council house. (NOT all council tenants are a problem!! It happens on 'private' estates as well so don't tar the council tenant!) These 2 problem neighbours thankfully moved but the council at the time did b.ugger all! We now have one more problem neighbour and the best help we have had so far is our local councillor. Not the elected city council officer either. He's brilliant and opened doors for us that we didn't know existed and we are now dealing with the problem. Good luck to the lady and her son. We shouldn't have to deal with s.hite families in this day and age but as mentioned before in this post 'it's the perpetrators that win'. The system is all wrong. Once again good luck to this family.

i no not all council estates are the same. some are lovely to live on hence i said not all areas. i was merely refering to one perticular area in harefield where there is a problem and has been for a long time.there should be zero tolerance.

As you say not all council tenants are bad, we had other neighbours who were council tenants and we had no problems with them, they were also complaining about the people we did have the problem with ! Unfortunately it is this minority that give the majority a bad name. If the council had a better procedure for dealing with this issue it might deter some of them from behaving the way they do, sending endless "warning" letters is no deterant, they just ignore them and take revenge on the people who have complained.

afraid u need to sort the parents out first. because i tell you one thing, if my kids ever done anything like that i'd go mad but they would never do anything like that as they have been bought up to have respect.they are only young and they are shocked at the way some of these kids behave.the parents of these kids have no control over their own children, nor do they care what they are up to. they cover for them.so it wont stop until the authorities do something about the parents

mistyme wrote:
afraid u need to sort the parents out first. because i tell you one thing, if my kids ever done anything like that i'd go mad but they would never do anything like that as they have been bought up to have respect.they are only young and they are shocked at the way some of these kids behave.the parents of these kids have no control over their own children, nor do they care what they are up to. they cover for them.so it wont stop until the authorities do something about the parents

Spot on mistyme, this was a single mother (although not my idea of a mother) living with her 18yr old son. She was as bad as him for noise, loud music till all hours and screaming matches/physical fights with him. My son like yours has been well brought up with a healthy respect for others and could not understand why other people would behave in the way they did. Getting the authorities to change the system will only happen if enough of us make enough noise. At the moment they council/local gov ombudsman make the process so difficult and long winded people give up and go away something I am determined not to do hence the facebook campain http://www.facebook.
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Sorry to hear about this sanddh, I think I know the 'family' that has caused the trouble, I certainly know though the Close in question. I had a run in with this family a few years ago and I was threatened with rape. It's a disgrace that you have had to go to such measures to feel safe. I really hope S.C.C. are hanging their heads in shame!

sanddh wrote:

mistyme wrote:
afraid u need to sort the parents out first. because i tell you one thing, if my kids ever done anything like that i'd go mad but they would never do anything like that as they have been bought up to have respect.they are only young and they are shocked at the way some of these kids behave.the parents of these kids have no control over their own children, nor do they care what they are up to. they cover for them.so it wont stop until the authorities do something about the parents

Spot on mistyme, this was a single mother (although not my idea of a mother) living with her 18yr old son. She was as bad as him for noise, loud music till all hours and screaming matches/physical fights with him. My son like yours has been well brought up with a healthy respect for others and could not understand why other people would behave in the way they did. Getting the authorities to change the system will only happen if enough of us make enough noise. At the moment they council/local gov ombudsman make the process so difficult and long winded people give up and go away something I am determined not to do hence the facebook campain http://www.facebook.

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well sanddh, i still have all my log sheets if you need any support. i'v also got all the paperwork from court. like you i never backed down and so took them to court and i won but it never changed anything, not really.anything you do just makes matters worse because these famalies know full well that the police etc will do nothing, so they are not bothered one bit, so they just carry on.it is disgusting in this day and age, in this country, that we still have to put up with this crap. it is not only the effect it has on us parents but the emotional effect it has on our children. the only way you can fight this, is to know the law, then make a formal complaint to the police commisioner about the authorities not doing their job. it is down to them to make sure we live in a safe enviroment, free from ASB, and be safe in our own homes.but they have lost control and it appears it's these kids that have taken the control.
i lost nearly £10,000 what they did to me. i lost my home, new everything for the kids. was not easy. i will back you all the way, if you need me to. I have studied law for 7 years now for my own benefit because society failed me and let me down. i lost all my faith in the system. i do hope now though you are in a lovely area. it will take time and i hope you get there. x

mistyme wrote:

sanddh wrote:

mistyme wrote: afraid u need to sort the parents out first. because i tell you one thing, if my kids ever done anything like that i'd go mad but they would never do anything like that as they have been bought up to have respect.they are only young and they are shocked at the way some of these kids behave.the parents of these kids have no control over their own children, nor do they care what they are up to. they cover for them.so it wont stop until the authorities do something about the parents

Spot on mistyme, this was a single mother (although not my idea of a mother) living with her 18yr old son. She was as bad as him for noise, loud music till all hours and screaming matches/physical fights with him. My son like yours has been well brought up with a healthy respect for others and could not understand why other people would behave in the way they did. Getting the authorities to change the system will only happen if enough of us make enough noise. At the moment they council/local gov ombudsman make the process so difficult and long winded people give up and go away something I am determined not to do hence the facebook campain http://www.facebook. com/permalink.php?st ory_fbid=20835694592 9224&id=10000025 2730 321&ref=notif¬i f_ t=share_comment#!/Su pport.For.The.Housto n.Family

well sanddh, i still have all my log sheets if you need any support. i'v also got all the paperwork from court. like you i never backed down and so took them to court and i won but it never changed anything, not really.anything you do just makes matters worse because these famalies know full well that the police etc will do nothing, so they are not bothered one bit, so they just carry on.it is disgusting in this day and age, in this country, that we still have to put up with this crap. it is not only the effect it has on us parents but the emotional effect it has on our children. the only way you can fight this, is to know the law, then make a formal complaint to the police commisioner about the authorities not doing their job. it is down to them to make sure we live in a safe enviroment, free from ASB, and be safe in our own homes.but they have lost control and it appears it's these kids that have taken the control. i lost nearly £10,000 what they did to me. i lost my home, new everything for the kids. was not easy. i will back you all the way, if you need me to. I have studied law for 7 years now for my own benefit because society failed me and let me down. i lost all my faith in the system. i do hope now though you are in a lovely area. it will take time and i hope you get there. x

I would be interested to hear more about your story, if you go to www.sandrahouston.co
.uk and use the contact link you can email me if you like. We are now in a lovely area with great neighbours, but as we are renting we dont have the security of knowing we will still be here this time next year.