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12:06am Thursday 16th February 2012 in News
By Jon Reeve, Education Reporter
INVESTIGATIONS have been launched into sickening abuse sent to Saints striker Billy Sharp goading him over the heartbreaking death of his baby son.
The footballer was subjected to a barrage of messages over the Internet talking about the death of his two-day- old child last year.
Saints fans and supporters of other clubs have condemned the person behind the abuse, calling for police to take action.
The footballer and girlfriend Jade were hit by tragedy last October when their son, Luey Jacob, died through complications caused by gastroschisis – a herniatype birth defect.
Mr Sharp was playing for Doncaster Rovers at the time, and emotionally dedicated a goal to his child just three days later, revealing a T-shirt with the message “That’s for you son”.
The 26-year-old and Jade have since set up a charity, the Luey Jacob Sharp Foundation, which is aimed at supporting families affected by gastroschisis, and raising awareness of the condition.
Mr Sharp signed for Saints at the end of January for around £1.8m, having scored 40 goals in 82 appearances for Doncaster.
Fans were quick to condemn the string of offensive posts made on the social networking site Twitter.
They were posted by a user who called himself Chris Boyd, claiming to be a Doncaster fan, upset that the striker had left the club for Saints.
He posted them just hours after the footballer had played in Saints’ crunch Championship top-of-thetable draw at West Ham.
Mr Sharp yesterday used his personal Twitter account to respond to the comments, which have subsequently been deleted.
The footballer said: “Shallow little boy, hope you’re proud of yourself”.
Saints fans representative Nick Illingsworth called for police action.
He added: “If I was someone from Doncaster I would want them found, and probably want them in the stocks in the town centre.”
Doncaster Rovers have launched an investigation into the abuse, and vowed to take “appropriate action” if the person can be traced.
However it is understood the individual is not a season ticket holder, and not on the club’s database as a regular ticket buyer.
The club said in statement said: “The club will not tolerate the misuse of social media or obscene language in any way.”
Police in Hampshire and South Yorkshire said yesterday they had not received any complaints, but would investigate if anyone reported them.
As well as the possibility the comments could represent harassment, the tweets could fall foul of communications legislation, which says that it is illegal to send anything “indecent or offensive” that is aimed at “causing distress or anxiety” to either the recipient, or anyone else who could read it.
Comments(111)
Brite Spark
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10:00am Thu 16 Feb 12
tom652
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10:06am Thu 16 Feb 12
lewissv
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10:13am Thu 16 Feb 12
St Retford
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10:32am Thu 16 Feb 12
J.K.
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10:57am Thu 16 Feb 12
Walter K
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11:05am Thu 16 Feb 12
rachie66
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11:06am Thu 16 Feb 12
tom652 wrote:I also feel this was a West Ham Supporter! After the sending off he took much abuse from the WH supporters! Also The football argument was fuelled on Twitter by none other than Ian Abrahams Talk Sport, which again was totally unnecessary!
Seems a bit strange that it came directly after the West Ham game and the account on twitter has been removed. I would think it was possibly a West ham supporter rather than a Donnie supporter. Either way it is very sick here is one of the views of the original tweet http://twitpic.com/8
kczdq
Just another reader
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11:09am Thu 16 Feb 12
J.K. wrote:Sorry, but there's no job on earth that comes with terms that allow anyone to bully, abuse or slander you. Would love to know what job you do, and what your employer would make of your statement.
Who cares, there are far more worse things in life, comes with the job if you can call it that
wild rupert
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11:09am Thu 16 Feb 12
J.K. wrote:C*ock
Who cares, there are far more worse things in life, comes with the job if you can call it that
likewatchingbrazil
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11:11am Thu 16 Feb 12
J.K. wrote:nob
Who cares, there are far more worse things in life, comes with the job if you can call it that
Lone Ranger.
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11:26am Thu 16 Feb 12
J.K. wrote:Brainless moron
Who cares, there are far more worse things in life, comes with the job if you can call it that
Over the Edge
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11:32am Thu 16 Feb 12
The Salv
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11:33am Thu 16 Feb 12
tom652 wrote:I think you could be right, I hope this gets taken as seriously as if it was racist abuse.
Seems a bit strange that it came directly after the West Ham game and the account on twitter has been removed. I would think it was possibly a West ham supporter rather than a Donnie supporter. Either way it is very sick here is one of the views of the original tweet http://twitpic.com/8 kczdq
Over the Edge
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11:35am Thu 16 Feb 12
J.K.
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11:52am Thu 16 Feb 12
Over the Edge
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12:01pm Thu 16 Feb 12
J.K. wrote:No your not, your a Skate troll now plop off back the News website
I'm a traffic warden
Condor Man
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12:25pm Thu 16 Feb 12
bstokesaint
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12:57pm Thu 16 Feb 12
OSPREYSAINT
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1:00pm Thu 16 Feb 12
J.K. wrote:Q. Why do Trafic Wardens have yellow bands around their hats? Answer:- So people don't park on their heads.
I'm a traffic warden
OSPREYSAINT
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1:04pm Thu 16 Feb 12
bstokesaint wrote:It is ironic to think that the idiot was not aware that he would be traced, even worse if he wasn't bright enough to know he was breaking the law. As do several others that post mesages on any site, libel laws still apply, I don't know how diffficult it is to prosecute though or what the success rate of previous cases has been.
Well done Billy for rising above some sick little boy. I've no doubt this was an idiot asscoiated with West Ham as well. What a shame some people can't differeniate between football match emotions and real life. I hope they never have to go through what Billy and Jade have been through.
I'd also be disappointed if the police didn't prosecute for this. I am all for freedom of speech, but Twitter needs to take a much tougher stance on threatening and abusive behaviour. Maybe an IQ test as well before signing up? Just an idea. In this case it would have got rid of at least one moron.
sk8srsinking
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1:11pm Thu 16 Feb 12
bstokesaint
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1:13pm Thu 16 Feb 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I'd like to think that the club would take this forward with the police, what with one of their employees being subjected to this vile behaviour. I've no idea on any success rates for prosecution, but this idiot needs to be made an example of. This individual is representative of a number of people who think it fine to post mindless tweets.
bstokesaint wrote: Well done Billy for rising above some sick little boy. I've no doubt this was an idiot asscoiated with West Ham as well. What a shame some people can't differeniate between football match emotions and real life. I hope they never have to go through what Billy and Jade have been through. I'd also be disappointed if the police didn't prosecute for this. I am all for freedom of speech, but Twitter needs to take a much tougher stance on threatening and abusive behaviour. Maybe an IQ test as well before signing up? Just an idea. In this case it would have got rid of at least one moron.It is ironic to think that the idiot was not aware that he would be traced, even worse if he wasn't bright enough to know he was breaking the law. As do several others that post mesages on any site, libel laws still apply, I don't know how diffficult it is to prosecute though or what the success rate of previous cases has been.
KeefyH44
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2:14pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Just another reader wrote:I never stoop to personal abuse on any of these fora, but your callous comment makes you just as bad as the pond life who posted on Twitter. its beneath contempt, shows a frightening lack of humanity in either of your psyches. I am. Brighton supporter but I really hope that this creature is caught and given a hefty prison sentence AND made to make a public apology and to pay financial damages.it will send out a firm message to others.
J.K. wrote:Sorry, but there's no job on earth that comes with terms that allow anyone to bully, abuse or slander you. Would love to know what job you do, and what your employer would make of your statement.
Who cares, there are far more worse things in life, comes with the job if you can call it that
And i believe pro footballer is a job, and a career. A very priveleged one for some but a job none-the-less.
WobblyCat
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2:27pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010
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4:22pm Thu 16 Feb 12
OSPREYSAINT
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4:28pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:No need to despise football, just ignor it, but I agree with you on your other point 100%.
Whilst I despise football with a passion, there is no need for people to be so vile to ANY player no matter what team!
These so call Social sites are a pain in the back side!
tugboat
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4:50pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010
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5:01pm Thu 16 Feb 12
tugboat wrote:The lad looks like he's about 13 if I assume the twitpic above is correct. Just an immature teenager.
Billy Sharp,a saints legend in the making,as for the the coward that hides behind a computer screen that posted this-shut me in a room with them-they would re-appear,educated,i
nformed,and wouldn't be entering an egg and spoon race any time soon.
Step up big man.............bet you dont !
pompey phil
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5:25pm Thu 16 Feb 12
tugboat
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5:29pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:Thanks for the advice,Ill ignore it if its OK.No offence intended,I couldnt give a toss how old the numb brain is-its wrong.As for lowering myself to a standard of a 13 year old,you sound quite well informed,do you know who it is then ?
tugboat wrote:The lad looks like he's about 13 if I assume the twitpic above is correct. Just an immature teenager.
Billy Sharp,a saints legend in the making,as for the the coward that hides behind a computer screen that posted this-shut me in a room with them-they would re-appear,educated,i
nformed,and wouldn't be entering an egg and spoon race any time soon.
Step up big man.............bet you dont !
Don't lower yourself to a 13 year old standard!
IronLady2010
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5:30pm Thu 16 Feb 12
pompey phil wrote:Without causing an argument, your words are no better than his?
I must say that who ever the doncaster fan is wants stringing up and battered thats just sick lock him up and throw away the key,but knowing the justice system he probably get a fine or community service.
IronLady2010
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5:31pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:Maybe they should investigate pompey phil for threatening behaviour?
pompey phil wrote:Without causing an argument, your words are no better than his?
I must say that who ever the doncaster fan is wants stringing up and battered thats just sick lock him up and throw away the key,but knowing the justice system he probably get a fine or community service.
Stringing up and battering???
You're all as bad as each other when it comes to football, I really don't understand the need for violence from either side!
pompey phil
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5:38pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:It was just a figure of speech ever heard of that?
IronLady2010 wrote:Maybe they should investigate pompey phil for threatening behaviour?pompey phil wrote: I must say that who ever the doncaster fan is wants stringing up and battered thats just sick lock him up and throw away the key,but knowing the justice system he probably get a fine or community service.Without causing an argument, your words are no better than his? Stringing up and battering??? You're all as bad as each other when it comes to football, I really don't understand the need for violence from either side!
Over the Edge
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5:58pm Thu 16 Feb 12
pompey phil wrote:Your words come from the heart mate, it was a disgusting act committed by a sub human, in the context of what was written by the creature, your words are tame.
IronLady2010 wrote:It was just a figure of speech ever heard of that?
IronLady2010 wrote:Maybe they should investigate pompey phil for threatening behaviour?pompey phil wrote: I must say that who ever the doncaster fan is wants stringing up and battered thats just sick lock him up and throw away the key,but knowing the justice system he probably get a fine or community service.Without causing an argument, your words are no better than his? Stringing up and battering??? You're all as bad as each other when it comes to football, I really don't understand the need for violence from either side!
SOULJACKER
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6:13pm Thu 16 Feb 12
J.K. wrote:Who cares J.K....you are obviously an inbred tw@t & God forbid it should happen to you....N0B!
Who cares, there are far more worse things in life, comes with the job if you can call it that
IronLady2010
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6:18pm Thu 16 Feb 12
tugboat wrote:I appear to be one of the few who can read the above posts and see the twitpic thing?
IronLady2010 wrote:Thanks for the advice,Ill ignore it if its OK.No offence intended,I couldnt give a toss how old the numb brain is-its wrong.As for lowering myself to a standard of a 13 year old,you sound quite well informed,do you know who it is then ?
tugboat wrote:The lad looks like he's about 13 if I assume the twitpic above is correct. Just an immature teenager.
Billy Sharp,a saints legend in the making,as for the the coward that hides behind a computer screen that posted this-shut me in a room with them-they would re-appear,educated,i
nformed,and wouldn't be entering an egg and spoon race any time soon.
Step up big man.............bet you dont !
Don't lower yourself to a 13 year old standard!
IronLady2010
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6:38pm Thu 16 Feb 12
SOULJACKER wrote:God forbid what? A few words posted on a Social media site?
J.K. wrote:Who cares J.K....you are obviously an inbred tw@t & God forbid it should happen to you....N0B!
Who cares, there are far more worse things in life, comes with the job if you can call it that
sk8srsinking
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7:16pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:Actually the comments from pompey phil show the human side to us football fans. Normally we are seen as the enemy (Scum and Skates) but his comments show that the vile comments posted on twitter are from pondlife. And before someone comes on here and ssya football fans cant read then how come i went to a well know private school in hill lane and went onto study at a top university. Iron lady if you detest football then stay off the football sites. Pompey Phil good luck in finding a new owner hope we can continue the friendly rivalry.
pompey phil wrote: I must say that who ever the doncaster fan is wants stringing up and battered thats just sick lock him up and throw away the key,but knowing the justice system he probably get a fine or community service.Without causing an argument, your words are no better than his? Stringing up and battering??? You're all as bad as each other when it comes to football, I really don't understand the need for violence from either side!
sk8srsinking
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7:17pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010
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7:24pm Thu 16 Feb 12
sk8srsinking wrote:I would love to stay off football sites, but the echo insist in posting the rubbish in NEWS!
IronLady2010 wrote:Actually the comments from pompey phil show the human side to us football fans. Normally we are seen as the enemy (Scum and Skates) but his comments show that the vile comments posted on twitter are from pondlife. And before someone comes on here and ssya football fans cant read then how come i went to a well know private school in hill lane and went onto study at a top university. Iron lady if you detest football then stay off the football sites. Pompey Phil good luck in finding a new owner hope we can continue the friendly rivalry.
pompey phil wrote: I must say that who ever the doncaster fan is wants stringing up and battered thats just sick lock him up and throw away the key,but knowing the justice system he probably get a fine or community service.Without causing an argument, your words are no better than his? Stringing up and battering??? You're all as bad as each other when it comes to football, I really don't understand the need for violence from either side!
WobblyCat
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7:40pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:Thank god!
sk8srsinking wrote:I would love to stay off football sites, but the echo insist in posting the rubbish in NEWS!
IronLady2010 wrote:Actually the comments from pompey phil show the human side to us football fans. Normally we are seen as the enemy (Scum and Skates) but his comments show that the vile comments posted on twitter are from pondlife. And before someone comes on here and ssya football fans cant read then how come i went to a well know private school in hill lane and went onto study at a top university. Iron lady if you detest football then stay off the football sites. Pompey Phil good luck in finding a new owner hope we can continue the friendly rivalry.
pompey phil wrote: I must say that who ever the doncaster fan is wants stringing up and battered thats just sick lock him up and throw away the key,but knowing the justice system he probably get a fine or community service.Without causing an argument, your words are no better than his? Stringing up and battering??? You're all as bad as each other when it comes to football, I really don't understand the need for violence from either side!
When a topic is posted in news I have as much right to reply as you do. I do not venture into the sport section!
IronLady2010
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7:48pm Thu 16 Feb 12
WobblyCat wrote:What, that I'm not sad? Watching men running around in tight shorts chasing balls.
IronLady2010 wrote:Thank god!
sk8srsinking wrote:I would love to stay off football sites, but the echo insist in posting the rubbish in NEWS!
IronLady2010 wrote:Actually the comments from pompey phil show the human side to us football fans. Normally we are seen as the enemy (Scum and Skates) but his comments show that the vile comments posted on twitter are from pondlife. And before someone comes on here and ssya football fans cant read then how come i went to a well know private school in hill lane and went onto study at a top university. Iron lady if you detest football then stay off the football sites. Pompey Phil good luck in finding a new owner hope we can continue the friendly rivalry.
pompey phil wrote: I must say that who ever the doncaster fan is wants stringing up and battered thats just sick lock him up and throw away the key,but knowing the justice system he probably get a fine or community service.Without causing an argument, your words are no better than his? Stringing up and battering??? You're all as bad as each other when it comes to football, I really don't understand the need for violence from either side!
When a topic is posted in news I have as much right to reply as you do. I do not venture into the sport section!
rob the saint in NZ
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8:17pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:The shorts aren't so tight nowadays - the last time you saw a game must have been back in the '80s!
WobblyCat wrote:What, that I'm not sad? Watching men running around in tight shorts chasing balls. Prefer to go to a wine bar and hold a conversation with friends.IronLady2010 wrote:Thank god!sk8srsinking wrote:I would love to stay off football sites, but the echo insist in posting the rubbish in NEWS! When a topic is posted in news I have as much right to reply as you do. I do not venture into the sport section!IronLady2010 wrote:Actually the comments from pompey phil show the human side to us football fans. Normally we are seen as the enemy (Scum and Skates) but his comments show that the vile comments posted on twitter are from pondlife. And before someone comes on here and ssya football fans cant read then how come i went to a well know private school in hill lane and went onto study at a top university. Iron lady if you detest football then stay off the football sites. Pompey Phil good luck in finding a new owner hope we can continue the friendly rivalry.pompey phil wrote: I must say that who ever the doncaster fan is wants stringing up and battered thats just sick lock him up and throw away the key,but knowing the justice system he probably get a fine or community service.Without causing an argument, your words are no better than his? Stringing up and battering??? You're all as bad as each other when it comes to football, I really don't understand the need for violence from either side!
hedge end bob
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8:26pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:Just ignore him, IRONLADY in my opion is a bloke that thinks he's a girl.
WobblyCat wrote:What, that I'm not sad? Watching men running around in tight shorts chasing balls.
IronLady2010 wrote:Thank god!
sk8srsinking wrote:I would love to stay off football sites, but the echo insist in posting the rubbish in NEWS!
IronLady2010 wrote:Actually the comments from pompey phil show the human side to us football fans. Normally we are seen as the enemy (Scum and Skates) but his comments show that the vile comments posted on twitter are from pondlife. And before someone comes on here and ssya football fans cant read then how come i went to a well know private school in hill lane and went onto study at a top university. Iron lady if you detest football then stay off the football sites. Pompey Phil good luck in finding a new owner hope we can continue the friendly rivalry.
pompey phil wrote: I must say that who ever the doncaster fan is wants stringing up and battered thats just sick lock him up and throw away the key,but knowing the justice system he probably get a fine or community service.Without causing an argument, your words are no better than his? Stringing up and battering??? You're all as bad as each other when it comes to football, I really don't understand the need for violence from either side!
When a topic is posted in news I have as much right to reply as you do. I do not venture into the sport section!
Prefer to go to a wine bar and hold a conversation with friends.
KeefyH44
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8:38pm Thu 16 Feb 12
megacycle
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8:52pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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8:59pm Thu 16 Feb 12
WobblyCat
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9:17pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:Yes I get it, all football fans are morons so why the fuss over such a comment from a so called one? Actually some of us hold down jobs and have joined up writing and scrub up well once we've shaved the palms of our hands! The suggestion that it is acceptable because he is a paid footballer or that this fan wasn't being 'nasty' just a fan shows that you are ignorant and insensitive and probably spend too much time in that wine bar! Wouldn't be a pub would it! Why don't you just leave the lower classes to their forum and have another chardonnay.
WobblyCat wrote:What, that I'm not sad? Watching men running around in tight shorts chasing balls.
IronLady2010 wrote:Thank god!
sk8srsinking wrote:I would love to stay off football sites, but the echo insist in posting the rubbish in NEWS!
IronLady2010 wrote:Actually the comments from pompey phil show the human side to us football fans. Normally we are seen as the enemy (Scum and Skates) but his comments show that the vile comments posted on twitter are from pondlife. And before someone comes on here and ssya football fans cant read then how come i went to a well know private school in hill lane and went onto study at a top university. Iron lady if you detest football then stay off the football sites. Pompey Phil good luck in finding a new owner hope we can continue the friendly rivalry.
pompey phil wrote: I must say that who ever the doncaster fan is wants stringing up and battered thats just sick lock him up and throw away the key,but knowing the justice system he probably get a fine or community service.Without causing an argument, your words are no better than his? Stringing up and battering??? You're all as bad as each other when it comes to football, I really don't understand the need for violence from either side!
When a topic is posted in news I have as much right to reply as you do. I do not venture into the sport section!
Prefer to go to a wine bar and hold a conversation with friends.
IronLady2010
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9:29pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Paramjit Bahia
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9:51pm Thu 16 Feb 12
SFC1976
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9:54pm Thu 16 Feb 12
J.K. wrote:Who cares??? you are a **** mate stay of our site you sad ****. I guess you don't have kids because if you did you wouldn't dream of putting something as stupid as you have.Please go away.
Who cares, there are far more worse things in life, comes with the job if you can call it that
megacycle
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10:03pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Brite Spark wrote:what a legend we have amongst us...
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=jdivs1Xeo
s0&feature=relat
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It was a fantastic goal, worthy of his emotional celebration.
opera phantom
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10:18pm Thu 16 Feb 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:You should tell your Mummy that there is
J.K. wrote:Brainless moron
Who cares, there are far more worse things in life, comes with the job if you can call it that
megacycle
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10:23pm Thu 16 Feb 12
megacycle
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10:32pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010
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10:33pm Thu 16 Feb 12
megacycle wrote:Blimey, talk about getting excited! It would appear some young lad said a few words (which were sick), this lad by all accounts is a teen who knows no better, probably bought up as a footie fan so no sense etc.
as for the other end of the scale of humanity, thanks to tom652 for posting link to the comments, do not view unless you have very strong stomach. its astounding that this was the work of someone who walks on two legs and uses cutlery. thats an assumption; maybe he crawls and eats from a trough, but anyone who uses a keyboard cant be a total retard. if thats real picture he's **** stupid though, better not ever show his face around here...
IronLady2010
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10:38pm Thu 16 Feb 12
megacycle wrote:OR? What if he does show his face?
as for the other end of the scale of humanity, thanks to tom652 for posting link to the comments, do not view unless you have very strong stomach. its astounding that this was the work of someone who walks on two legs and uses cutlery. thats an assumption; maybe he crawls and eats from a trough, but anyone who uses a keyboard cant be a total retard. if thats real picture he's **** stupid though, better not ever show his face around here...
megacycle
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10:40pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:so why you still here? this isnt about "footie". have you seen the comments? f3ck off anyway
nothing better than a glass of wine among nice friends.we don't need a ball for that.cheers!
IronLady2010
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10:43pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010
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10:44pm Thu 16 Feb 12
megacycle wrote:It's still in the news section so get a life my boy :-)
IronLady2010 wrote:so why you still here? this isnt about "footie". have you seen the comments? f3ck off anyway
nothing better than a glass of wine among nice friends.we don't need a ball for that.cheers!
KeefyH44
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10:44pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:I'm a Brighton supporter and was an electronics engineer for over 41yrs, built my own tv, spent years doing R&D at Sussex Uni, repaired and developed Ultrasonic equipment for British Rail for many years and is hazard a guess that my education is a tad above yours but I've supported Brighton for 55yrs. U show YOUR ignorance by your sweeping comments! This was a cruel and diseased act and youth does not excuse it any more than your bigotry excuses your ignorance.
megacycle wrote:Blimey, talk about getting excited! It would appear some young lad said a few words (which were sick), this lad by all accounts is a teen who knows no better, probably bought up as a footie fan so no sense etc.
as for the other end of the scale of humanity, thanks to tom652 for posting link to the comments, do not view unless you have very strong stomach. its astounding that this was the work of someone who walks on two legs and uses cutlery. thats an assumption; maybe he crawls and eats from a trough, but anyone who uses a keyboard cant be a total retard. if thats real picture he's **** stupid though, better not ever show his face around here...
You'd think this lad had sent a letter bomb which went off! For god's sake, he sent a stupid message on twitter, get over it!
I was sad enough to troll through the echo comments, alot of people would be up on a charge! But it's just text, you create an internet, you live with it!
IronLady2010
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10:50pm Thu 16 Feb 12
KeefyH44 wrote:You are far too old, much like me! The youth of today see the internet as part of their life. The comments they make aren't to be taken seriously.
IronLady2010 wrote:I'm a Brighton supporter and was an electronics engineer for over 41yrs, built my own tv, spent years doing R&D at Sussex Uni, repaired and developed Ultrasonic equipment for British Rail for many years and is hazard a guess that my education is a tad above yours but I've supported Brighton for 55yrs. U show YOUR ignorance by your sweeping comments! This was a cruel and diseased act and youth does not excuse it any more than your bigotry excuses your ignorance.
megacycle wrote:Blimey, talk about getting excited! It would appear some young lad said a few words (which were sick), this lad by all accounts is a teen who knows no better, probably bought up as a footie fan so no sense etc.
as for the other end of the scale of humanity, thanks to tom652 for posting link to the comments, do not view unless you have very strong stomach. its astounding that this was the work of someone who walks on two legs and uses cutlery. thats an assumption; maybe he crawls and eats from a trough, but anyone who uses a keyboard cant be a total retard. if thats real picture he's **** stupid though, better not ever show his face around here...
You'd think this lad had sent a letter bomb which went off! For god's sake, he sent a stupid message on twitter, get over it!
I was sad enough to troll through the echo comments, alot of people would be up on a charge! But it's just text, you create an internet, you live with it!
megacycle
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10:52pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:you're assuming i'm a male adult; fine. its in the news section for a reason. now f3ck off
megacycle wrote:It's still in the news section so get a life my boy :-)
IronLady2010 wrote:so why you still here? this isnt about "footie". have you seen the comments? f3ck off anyway
nothing better than a glass of wine among nice friends.we don't need a ball for that.cheers!
IronLady2010
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10:53pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010
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10:54pm Thu 16 Feb 12
megacycle wrote:I hope you don't have children! Your online behaviour is bad enough!
IronLady2010 wrote:you're assuming i'm a male adult; fine. its in the news section for a reason. now f3ck off
megacycle wrote:It's still in the news section so get a life my boy :-)
IronLady2010 wrote:so why you still here? this isnt about "footie". have you seen the comments? f3ck off anyway
nothing better than a glass of wine among nice friends.we don't need a ball for that.cheers!
megacycle
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10:57pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010
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10:58pm Thu 16 Feb 12
megacycle wrote:Well done on avoiding the filter! Credit where credits due!
please f3ck off and get some help
megacycle
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11:07pm Thu 16 Feb 12
KeefyH44
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11:10pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:That does not excuse cruelty nor bigotry. I'm a bit of a whizz kid myself though I'm nearly 70: age does not preclude the ability to understand technology any more than youth does not excuse cruelty.
KeefyH44 wrote:You are far too old, much like me! The youth of today see the internet as part of their life. The comments they make aren't to be taken seriously.
IronLady2010 wrote:I'm a Brighton supporter and was an electronics engineer for over 41yrs, built my own tv, spent years doing R&D at Sussex Uni, repaired and developed Ultrasonic equipment for British Rail for many years and is hazard a guess that my education is a tad above yours but I've supported Brighton for 55yrs. U show YOUR ignorance by your sweeping comments! This was a cruel and diseased act and youth does not excuse it any more than your bigotry excuses your ignorance.
megacycle wrote:Blimey, talk about getting excited! It would appear some young lad said a few words (which were sick), this lad by all accounts is a teen who knows no better, probably bought up as a footie fan so no sense etc.
as for the other end of the scale of humanity, thanks to tom652 for posting link to the comments, do not view unless you have very strong stomach. its astounding that this was the work of someone who walks on two legs and uses cutlery. thats an assumption; maybe he crawls and eats from a trough, but anyone who uses a keyboard cant be a total retard. if thats real picture he's **** stupid though, better not ever show his face around here...
You'd think this lad had sent a letter bomb which went off! For god's sake, he sent a stupid message on twitter, get over it!
I was sad enough to troll through the echo comments, alot of people would be up on a charge! But it's just text, you create an internet, you live with it!
We have created this society of internet whizz kids!
megacycle
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11:11pm Thu 16 Feb 12
tford1
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11:21pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:Oh dear, where did you come from?
KeefyH44 wrote:You are far too old, much like me! The youth of today see the internet as part of their life. The comments they make aren't to be taken seriously.
IronLady2010 wrote:I'm a Brighton supporter and was an electronics engineer for over 41yrs, built my own tv, spent years doing R&D at Sussex Uni, repaired and developed Ultrasonic equipment for British Rail for many years and is hazard a guess that my education is a tad above yours but I've supported Brighton for 55yrs. U show YOUR ignorance by your sweeping comments! This was a cruel and diseased act and youth does not excuse it any more than your bigotry excuses your ignorance.
megacycle wrote:Blimey, talk about getting excited! It would appear some young lad said a few words (which were sick), this lad by all accounts is a teen who knows no better, probably bought up as a footie fan so no sense etc.
as for the other end of the scale of humanity, thanks to tom652 for posting link to the comments, do not view unless you have very strong stomach. its astounding that this was the work of someone who walks on two legs and uses cutlery. thats an assumption; maybe he crawls and eats from a trough, but anyone who uses a keyboard cant be a total retard. if thats real picture he's **** stupid though, better not ever show his face around here...
You'd think this lad had sent a letter bomb which went off! For god's sake, he sent a stupid message on twitter, get over it!
I was sad enough to troll through the echo comments, alot of people would be up on a charge! But it's just text, you create an internet, you live with it!
We have created this society of internet whizz kids!
megacycle
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11:23pm Thu 16 Feb 12
megacycle wrote:sorry i got dragged off the point. Billy Sharp, Big respect...COYR
Brite Spark wrote:what a legend we have amongst us...
http://www.youtube.c
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It was a fantastic goal, worthy of his emotional celebration.
SinnerSaint
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11:34pm Thu 16 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:About 20 posts between 4.22 and 11pm tells me you haven't got any friends to go to a wine bar and hold a conversation with. Sad - very, very sad.
WobblyCat wrote:What, that I'm not sad? Watching men running around in tight shorts chasing balls.
IronLady2010 wrote:Thank god!
sk8srsinking wrote:I would love to stay off football sites, but the echo insist in posting the rubbish in NEWS!
IronLady2010 wrote:Actually the comments from pompey phil show the human side to us football fans. Normally we are seen as the enemy (Scum and Skates) but his comments show that the vile comments posted on twitter are from pondlife. And before someone comes on here and ssya football fans cant read then how come i went to a well know private school in hill lane and went onto study at a top university. Iron lady if you detest football then stay off the football sites. Pompey Phil good luck in finding a new owner hope we can continue the friendly rivalry.
pompey phil wrote: I must say that who ever the doncaster fan is wants stringing up and battered thats just sick lock him up and throw away the key,but knowing the justice system he probably get a fine or community service.Without causing an argument, your words are no better than his? Stringing up and battering??? You're all as bad as each other when it comes to football, I really don't understand the need for violence from either side!
When a topic is posted in news I have as much right to reply as you do. I do not venture into the sport section!
Prefer to go to a wine bar and hold a conversation with friends.
KeefyH44
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11:39pm Thu 16 Feb 12
megacycle wrote:The Argus blanked out D@mn when I wrote it a while back. Must be because of the religious connotations I guess.
note to echo: dam+n is probably less offensive than feck.
megacycle
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11:57pm Thu 16 Feb 12
KeefyH44 wrote:Oooh you bad man! try feck on them. dont forget what we're talking about....
megacycle wrote:The Argus blanked out D@mn when I wrote it a while back. Must be because of the religious connotations I guess.
note to echo: dam+n is probably less offensive than feck.
megacycle
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12:08am Fri 17 Feb 12
megacycle wrote:of course i meant to say investigated
I've just made a donation at www.ljsfoundation.or
g.uk to honour the memory of Luey Jacob. may I suggest others do likewise, even the smallest donation can be a gesture of support and solidarity for Billy and Jade in these difficult circumstances, and will show that this sick idiot's appalling behaviour has actually increased awareness of their commendable endeavours.
I hope this is properly invesigated, and the perpetrator dealt with severely to show the other retards out there that you cannot get away with this kind of abuse, be it towards sportsmen or anyone else.
well done Billy for responding in such a mature and dignified manner. stay strong, we're going to need your kind of talent back in the Prem...
bstokesaint
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6:36am Fri 17 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:Likewise I hope you don't have any children. Your ignorance is unbelievable. My parents would have been mortified had I written anything like this. And even at the age of 13 I knew this was a seriously sick thing to do. Don't blame the internet for this kid's sick actions. And don't think sipping on Chardonnay in wine bars (on your own) and taking the moral high ground makes you any better than anyone else. As other posters have stated football does far more good than bad in this world, and your comments are largely sweeping and unjustified. It probably is for the best you keep them to yourself to avoid embarrassing yourself any further.
megacycle wrote:I hope you don't have children! Your online behaviour is bad enough!
IronLady2010 wrote:you're assuming i'm a male adult; fine. its in the news section for a reason. now f3ck off
megacycle wrote:It's still in the news section so get a life my boy :-)
IronLady2010 wrote:so why you still here? this isnt about "footie". have you seen the comments? f3ck off anyway
nothing better than a glass of wine among nice friends.we don't need a ball for that.cheers!
Georgem
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6:56am Fri 17 Feb 12
Andy_Germany wrote:Sick and twisted though it might be, I'm not entirely comfortable with it being a police matter that someone SAID something unpleasant about, or to, someone else.
Well lets hope someone makes an official complaint to the police, then they can do their utmost to find the "person" who wrote those awful tweets and make an example of him.
Georgem
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6:58am Fri 17 Feb 12
wild rupert wrote:Careful. It's apparently illegal to be nasty to someone on the Internet now
J.K. wrote:C*ock
Who cares, there are far more worse things in life, comes with the job if you can call it that
Georgem
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6:59am Fri 17 Feb 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:What was libellous about the message? I'm actually asking, as I don't know the content of it. It's not libellous just because it's nasty, though.
bstokesaint wrote:It is ironic to think that the idiot was not aware that he would be traced, even worse if he wasn't bright enough to know he was breaking the law. As do several others that post mesages on any site, libel laws still apply, I don't know how diffficult it is to prosecute though or what the success rate of previous cases has been.
Well done Billy for rising above some sick little boy. I've no doubt this was an idiot asscoiated with West Ham as well. What a shame some people can't differeniate between football match emotions and real life. I hope they never have to go through what Billy and Jade have been through.
I'd also be disappointed if the police didn't prosecute for this. I am all for freedom of speech, but Twitter needs to take a much tougher stance on threatening and abusive behaviour. Maybe an IQ test as well before signing up? Just an idea. In this case it would have got rid of at least one moron.
Georgem
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7:01am Fri 17 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:I have to agree. This is not the end of thw world.
SOULJACKER wrote:God forbid what? A few words posted on a Social media site?
J.K. wrote:Who cares J.K....you are obviously an inbred tw@t & God forbid it should happen to you....N0B!
Who cares, there are far more worse things in life, comes with the job if you can call it that
Whilst sickening, I fail to understand why someone in the media spotlight would take any notice.
It's more the fans kicking off.
If you accept pay for being a so called celeb/player, sometimes you have to accept the rubbish that comes with it.
I very much doubt a teen is a threat and had no intention of being nasty, he was just being a teen.
As vile as his comments were, he probably thought he was being a football fan!
bstokesaint
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7:54am Fri 17 Feb 12
rob the saint in NZ
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8:29am Fri 17 Feb 12
Georgem wrote:It's not the end of the World, no - but to so casually dismiss such appaling behaviour is to almost condone it.
IronLady2010 wrote:I have to agree. This is not the end of thw world.
SOULJACKER wrote:God forbid what? A few words posted on a Social media site?
J.K. wrote:Who cares J.K....you are obviously an inbred tw@t & God forbid it should happen to you....N0B!
Who cares, there are far more worse things in life, comes with the job if you can call it that
Whilst sickening, I fail to understand why someone in the media spotlight would take any notice.
It's more the fans kicking off.
If you accept pay for being a so called celeb/player, sometimes you have to accept the rubbish that comes with it.
I very much doubt a teen is a threat and had no intention of being nasty, he was just being a teen.
As vile as his comments were, he probably thought he was being a football fan!
KeefyH44
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8:57am Fri 17 Feb 12
rob the saint in NZ wrote:Exactly! I can't understand why anyone cannot see this. Not to condemn such an act is effectively saying that it's acceptable just because he works in the public eye!
Georgem wrote:It's not the end of the World, no - but to so casually dismiss such appaling behaviour is to almost condone it.
IronLady2010 wrote:I have to agree. This is not the end of thw world.
SOULJACKER wrote:God forbid what? A few words posted on a Social media site?
J.K. wrote:Who cares J.K....you are obviously an inbred tw@t & God forbid it should happen to you....N0B!
Who cares, there are far more worse things in life, comes with the job if you can call it that
Whilst sickening, I fail to understand why someone in the media spotlight would take any notice.
It's more the fans kicking off.
If you accept pay for being a so called celeb/player, sometimes you have to accept the rubbish that comes with it.
I very much doubt a teen is a threat and had no intention of being nasty, he was just being a teen.
As vile as his comments were, he probably thought he was being a football fan!
Spookysaint
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9:21am Fri 17 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:IronLady2100...I have read all your comments, statements etc, that you have written concerning the story that has appeared in the Daily Echo. Considering that you are not a Football Supporter or a follower of Saints. Well I must disagree with your view of Football Supporters and take your comments as a personal offence to myself. I am female over 50 and disliked Football with a vengence that I wouldn't even watch the World Cup on TV then my new family following my move to Winchester introduced me to Saints and I watched my first game 17 months ago. I am now a Season Ticket Holder and love the game in respect of Saints and do not appreciate anyone making offensive comments like that person, be it a child, teenage, or adult about Billy Sharp's situation. It is cruel and obscene and should be reported.
megacycle wrote: please f3ck off and get some helpWell done on avoiding the filter! Credit where credits due!
rob the saint in NZ
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9:56am Fri 17 Feb 12
Spookysaint wrote:Welcome to Saints & I endorse your comments wholeheartedly!
IronLady2010 wrote:IronLady2100...I have read all your comments, statements etc, that you have written concerning the story that has appeared in the Daily Echo. Considering that you are not a Football Supporter or a follower of Saints. Well I must disagree with your view of Football Supporters and take your comments as a personal offence to myself. I am female over 50 and disliked Football with a vengence that I wouldn't even watch the World Cup on TV then my new family following my move to Winchester introduced me to Saints and I watched my first game 17 months ago. I am now a Season Ticket Holder and love the game in respect of Saints and do not appreciate anyone making offensive comments like that person, be it a child, teenage, or adult about Billy Sharp's situation. It is cruel and obscene and should be reported.
megacycle wrote: please f3ck off and get some helpWell done on avoiding the filter! Credit where credits due!
You have taken it upon yourself to offend alot of Saints Supporters and ones who hold respectable positions in society from Policemen, Paramedics, Doctors and Solicitors.
I think I have made myself clear, please do not offend Southampton FC and its loyal supporters.
Beer Monster
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11:49am Fri 17 Feb 12
megacycle wrote:Amen to a sensible post on this subject...
I've just made a donation at www.ljsfoundation.or g.uk to honour the memory of Luey Jacob. may I suggest others do likewise, even the smallest donation can be a gesture of support and solidarity for Billy and Jade in these difficult circumstances, and will show that this sick idiot's appalling behaviour has actually increased awareness of their commendable endeavours. I hope this is properly invesigated, and the perpetrator dealt with severely to show the other retards out there that you cannot get away with this kind of abuse, be it towards sportsmen or anyone else. well done Billy for responding in such a mature and dignified manner. stay strong, we're going to need your kind of talent back in the Prem...
Spookysaint
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1:37pm Fri 17 Feb 12
rob the saint in NZ wrote:Thanks Rob, and yes I am proud to be a Saints Supporter.
Spookysaint wrote:Welcome to Saints & I endorse your comments wholeheartedly!IronLady2010 wrote:IronLady2100...I have read all your comments, statements etc, that you have written concerning the story that has appeared in the Daily Echo. Considering that you are not a Football Supporter or a follower of Saints. Well I must disagree with your view of Football Supporters and take your comments as a personal offence to myself. I am female over 50 and disliked Football with a vengence that I wouldn't even watch the World Cup on TV then my new family following my move to Winchester introduced me to Saints and I watched my first game 17 months ago. I am now a Season Ticket Holder and love the game in respect of Saints and do not appreciate anyone making offensive comments like that person, be it a child, teenage, or adult about Billy Sharp's situation. It is cruel and obscene and should be reported. You have taken it upon yourself to offend alot of Saints Supporters and ones who hold respectable positions in society from Policemen, Paramedics, Doctors and Solicitors. I think I have made myself clear, please do not offend Southampton FC and its loyal supporters.megacycle wrote: please f3ck off and get some helpWell done on avoiding the filter! Credit where credits due!
McCalliogStokesGoal!
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3:05pm Fri 17 Feb 12
Georgem
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6:27pm Fri 17 Feb 12
rob the saint in NZ wrote:The only person who can say whether someone condones the behaviour or not, is the person in question. Stop trying to re-invent yourself as a mind-reader. I wonder why you're so desperate to see the worst in people
Georgem wrote:It's not the end of the World, no - but to so casually dismiss such appaling behaviour is to almost condone it.
IronLady2010 wrote:I have to agree. This is not the end of thw world.
SOULJACKER wrote:God forbid what? A few words posted on a Social media site?
J.K. wrote:Who cares J.K....you are obviously an inbred tw@t & God forbid it should happen to you....N0B!
Who cares, there are far more worse things in life, comes with the job if you can call it that
Whilst sickening, I fail to understand why someone in the media spotlight would take any notice.
It's more the fans kicking off.
If you accept pay for being a so called celeb/player, sometimes you have to accept the rubbish that comes with it.
I very much doubt a teen is a threat and had no intention of being nasty, he was just being a teen.
As vile as his comments were, he probably thought he was being a football fan!
Georgem
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6:31pm Fri 17 Feb 12
KeefyH44 wrote:Err, I HAVE condemned the act. I don't see why anything that isn't actual baying for blood has to be considered condonement. To make comments about someone's recently-deceased child is twisted. I don't think anybody disagrees with that. But beyond that, is there anything further to be said? Is it really a matter for the police? Do you really want it to be illegal for people to say unpleasant things to one another?
rob the saint in NZ wrote:Exactly! I can't understand why anyone cannot see this. Not to condemn such an act is effectively saying that it's acceptable just because he works in the public eye!
Georgem wrote:It's not the end of the World, no - but to so casually dismiss such appaling behaviour is to almost condone it.
IronLady2010 wrote:I have to agree. This is not the end of thw world.
SOULJACKER wrote:God forbid what? A few words posted on a Social media site?
J.K. wrote:Who cares J.K....you are obviously an inbred tw@t & God forbid it should happen to you....N0B!
Who cares, there are far more worse things in life, comes with the job if you can call it that
Whilst sickening, I fail to understand why someone in the media spotlight would take any notice.
It's more the fans kicking off.
If you accept pay for being a so called celeb/player, sometimes you have to accept the rubbish that comes with it.
I very much doubt a teen is a threat and had no intention of being nasty, he was just being a teen.
As vile as his comments were, he probably thought he was being a football fan!
Georgem
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6:33pm Fri 17 Feb 12
Beer Monster wrote:But why should this act be punished? It's upsetting, but ultimately not harmful. You call the perpetrator a "retard". Should the police investigate this? It's the same thing. You are posting derogatory remarks about someone else, on the Internet. Where is the line drawn? What's acceptable speech and what's not? You're getting dangerously close to thoughtcrime here
megacycle wrote:Amen to a sensible post on this subject...
I've just made a donation at www.ljsfoundation.or g.uk to honour the memory of Luey Jacob. may I suggest others do likewise, even the smallest donation can be a gesture of support and solidarity for Billy and Jade in these difficult circumstances, and will show that this sick idiot's appalling behaviour has actually increased awareness of their commendable endeavours. I hope this is properly invesigated, and the perpetrator dealt with severely to show the other retards out there that you cannot get away with this kind of abuse, be it towards sportsmen or anyone else. well done Billy for responding in such a mature and dignified manner. stay strong, we're going to need your kind of talent back in the Prem...
Well done to Billy, legend wherever he roams - thank the Lord he's a Saint :-)
cantthinkofone
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8:10pm Fri 17 Feb 12
Georgem wrote:"Where is the line drawn? What's acceptable speech and what's not?"
Beer Monster wrote:But why should this act be punished? It's upsetting, but ultimately not harmful. You call the perpetrator a "retard". Should the police investigate this? It's the same thing. You are posting derogatory remarks about someone else, on the Internet. Where is the line drawn? What's acceptable speech and what's not? You're getting dangerously close to thoughtcrime here
megacycle wrote:Amen to a sensible post on this subject...
I've just made a donation at www.ljsfoundation.or g.uk to honour the memory of Luey Jacob. may I suggest others do likewise, even the smallest donation can be a gesture of support and solidarity for Billy and Jade in these difficult circumstances, and will show that this sick idiot's appalling behaviour has actually increased awareness of their commendable endeavours. I hope this is properly invesigated, and the perpetrator dealt with severely to show the other retards out there that you cannot get away with this kind of abuse, be it towards sportsmen or anyone else. well done Billy for responding in such a mature and dignified manner. stay strong, we're going to need your kind of talent back in the Prem...
Well done to Billy, legend wherever he roams - thank the Lord he's a Saint :-)
KeefyH44
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9:47pm Fri 17 Feb 12
Georgem wrote:It's purely a matter of common sense. We in this country, have bent over so far backwards to be 'fair', we seem to have lost sight of ordinary common sense. To say that these remarks caused no harm is naieve and disingenuous. It is about what's right and what's acceptable and the person who made these comments, if not made to understand why it is wrong, and to suffer consequences will only go on to escalate. No one just goes out to rob a bank nor to commit other serious crimes without forewarning. It starts in a small way, stealing sweets or whatever, and I know that many children grow out of this behaviour but it all begins like this. If you cannot see just how wrong this behaviour is then it is a sad indictment of our society that anyone can be so inured to atrocity that they find this behaviour merely a minor annoyance.
Beer Monster wrote:But why should this act be punished? It's upsetting, but ultimately not harmful. You call the perpetrator a "retard". Should the police investigate this? It's the same thing. You are posting derogatory remarks about someone else, on the Internet. Where is the line drawn? What's acceptable speech and what's not? You're getting dangerously close to thoughtcrime here
megacycle wrote:Amen to a sensible post on this subject...
I've just made a donation at www.ljsfoundation.or g.uk to honour the memory of Luey Jacob. may I suggest others do likewise, even the smallest donation can be a gesture of support and solidarity for Billy and Jade in these difficult circumstances, and will show that this sick idiot's appalling behaviour has actually increased awareness of their commendable endeavours. I hope this is properly invesigated, and the perpetrator dealt with severely to show the other retards out there that you cannot get away with this kind of abuse, be it towards sportsmen or anyone else. well done Billy for responding in such a mature and dignified manner. stay strong, we're going to need your kind of talent back in the Prem...
Well done to Billy, legend wherever he roams - thank the Lord he's a Saint :-)
megacycle
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9:54pm Fri 17 Feb 12
Georgem wrote:I didn't call the perpetrator a retard, I called it a sick idiot and later implied that it crawls and eats from a trough. other posts show how strongly decent people feel about this; regarding investigation, the article says "it is illegal to send anything “indecent or offensive” that is aimed at “causing distress or anxiety” to either the recipient, or anyone else who could read it". if you want to know what we're talking about, follow link posted by tom652 early in this thread. have some respect...
Beer Monster wrote:But why should this act be punished? It's upsetting, but ultimately not harmful. You call the perpetrator a "retard". Should the police investigate this? It's the same thing. You are posting derogatory remarks about someone else, on the Internet. Where is the line drawn? What's acceptable speech and what's not? You're getting dangerously close to thoughtcrime here
megacycle wrote:Amen to a sensible post on this subject...
I've just made a donation at www.ljsfoundation.or g.uk to honour the memory of Luey Jacob. may I suggest others do likewise, even the smallest donation can be a gesture of support and solidarity for Billy and Jade in these difficult circumstances, and will show that this sick idiot's appalling behaviour has actually increased awareness of their commendable endeavours. I hope this is properly invesigated, and the perpetrator dealt with severely to show the other retards out there that you cannot get away with this kind of abuse, be it towards sportsmen or anyone else. well done Billy for responding in such a mature and dignified manner. stay strong, we're going to need your kind of talent back in the Prem...
Well done to Billy, legend wherever he roams - thank the Lord he's a Saint :-)
megacycle
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10:24pm Fri 17 Feb 12
Beer Monster wrote:thank you so much. thats www.ljsfoundation.or
megacycle wrote:Amen to a sensible post on this subject...
I've just made a donation at www.ljsfoundation.or g.uk to honour the memory of Luey Jacob. may I suggest others do likewise, even the smallest donation can be a gesture of support and solidarity for Billy and Jade in these difficult circumstances, and will show that this sick idiot's appalling behaviour has actually increased awareness of their commendable endeavours. I hope this is properly invesigated, and the perpetrator dealt with severely to show the other retards out there that you cannot get away with this kind of abuse, be it towards sportsmen or anyone else. well done Billy for responding in such a mature and dignified manner. stay strong, we're going to need your kind of talent back in the Prem...
Well done to Billy, legend wherever he roams - thank the Lord he's a Saint :-)
Georgem
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8:07am Sat 18 Feb 12
KeefyH44 wrote:I didn't say it was a minor annoyance. It's grossly offensive. I just don't think it should be a legal matter. Do try actually reading what I'm posting. And please don't try and build a causal link between being mean to someone, and bank robbery.
Georgem wrote:It's purely a matter of common sense. We in this country, have bent over so far backwards to be 'fair', we seem to have lost sight of ordinary common sense. To say that these remarks caused no harm is naieve and disingenuous. It is about what's right and what's acceptable and the person who made these comments, if not made to understand why it is wrong, and to suffer consequences will only go on to escalate. No one just goes out to rob a bank nor to commit other serious crimes without forewarning. It starts in a small way, stealing sweets or whatever, and I know that many children grow out of this behaviour but it all begins like this. If you cannot see just how wrong this behaviour is then it is a sad indictment of our society that anyone can be so inured to atrocity that they find this behaviour merely a minor annoyance.
Beer Monster wrote:But why should this act be punished? It's upsetting, but ultimately not harmful. You call the perpetrator a "retard". Should the police investigate this? It's the same thing. You are posting derogatory remarks about someone else, on the Internet. Where is the line drawn? What's acceptable speech and what's not? You're getting dangerously close to thoughtcrime here
megacycle wrote:Amen to a sensible post on this subject...
I've just made a donation at www.ljsfoundation.or g.uk to honour the memory of Luey Jacob. may I suggest others do likewise, even the smallest donation can be a gesture of support and solidarity for Billy and Jade in these difficult circumstances, and will show that this sick idiot's appalling behaviour has actually increased awareness of their commendable endeavours. I hope this is properly invesigated, and the perpetrator dealt with severely to show the other retards out there that you cannot get away with this kind of abuse, be it towards sportsmen or anyone else. well done Billy for responding in such a mature and dignified manner. stay strong, we're going to need your kind of talent back in the Prem...
Well done to Billy, legend wherever he roams - thank the Lord he's a Saint :-)
rob the saint in NZ
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8:09am Sat 18 Feb 12
Georgem wrote:I think as a society we need to draw a line on what is & what isn't acceptable behaviour & stop molly coddling.
KeefyH44 wrote:Err, I HAVE condemned the act. I don't see why anything that isn't actual baying for blood has to be considered condonement. To make comments about someone's recently-deceased child is twisted. I don't think anybody disagrees with that. But beyond that, is there anything further to be said? Is it really a matter for the police? Do you really want it to be illegal for people to say unpleasant things to one another?
rob the saint in NZ wrote:Exactly! I can't understand why anyone cannot see this. Not to condemn such an act is effectively saying that it's acceptable just because he works in the public eye!
Georgem wrote:It's not the end of the World, no - but to so casually dismiss such appaling behaviour is to almost condone it.
IronLady2010 wrote:I have to agree. This is not the end of thw world.
SOULJACKER wrote:God forbid what? A few words posted on a Social media site?
J.K. wrote:Who cares J.K....you are obviously an inbred tw@t & God forbid it should happen to you....N0B!
Who cares, there are far more worse things in life, comes with the job if you can call it that
Whilst sickening, I fail to understand why someone in the media spotlight would take any notice.
It's more the fans kicking off.
If you accept pay for being a so called celeb/player, sometimes you have to accept the rubbish that comes with it.
I very much doubt a teen is a threat and had no intention of being nasty, he was just being a teen.
As vile as his comments were, he probably thought he was being a football fan!
Georgem
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8:10am Sat 18 Feb 12
megacycle wrote:You say: "I hope this is properly invesigated, and the perpetrator dealt with severely to show the other retards out there that you cannot get away with this kind of abuse"
Georgem wrote:I didn't call the perpetrator a retard, I called it a sick idiot and later implied that it crawls and eats from a trough. other posts show how strongly decent people feel about this; regarding investigation, the article says "it is illegal to send anything “indecent or offensive” that is aimed at “causing distress or anxiety” to either the recipient, or anyone else who could read it". if you want to know what we're talking about, follow link posted by tom652 early in this thread. have some respect...
Beer Monster wrote:But why should this act be punished? It's upsetting, but ultimately not harmful. You call the perpetrator a "retard". Should the police investigate this? It's the same thing. You are posting derogatory remarks about someone else, on the Internet. Where is the line drawn? What's acceptable speech and what's not? You're getting dangerously close to thoughtcrime here
megacycle wrote:Amen to a sensible post on this subject...
I've just made a donation at www.ljsfoundation.or g.uk to honour the memory of Luey Jacob. may I suggest others do likewise, even the smallest donation can be a gesture of support and solidarity for Billy and Jade in these difficult circumstances, and will show that this sick idiot's appalling behaviour has actually increased awareness of their commendable endeavours. I hope this is properly invesigated, and the perpetrator dealt with severely to show the other retards out there that you cannot get away with this kind of abuse, be it towards sportsmen or anyone else. well done Billy for responding in such a mature and dignified manner. stay strong, we're going to need your kind of talent back in the Prem...
Well done to Billy, legend wherever he roams - thank the Lord he's a Saint :-)
Georgem
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8:12am Sat 18 Feb 12
rob the saint in NZ wrote:Right. Broken windows. Do we fix society by making broken windows illegal, then?
Georgem wrote:I think as a society we need to draw a line on what is & what isn't acceptable behaviour & stop molly coddling.
KeefyH44 wrote:Err, I HAVE condemned the act. I don't see why anything that isn't actual baying for blood has to be considered condonement. To make comments about someone's recently-deceased child is twisted. I don't think anybody disagrees with that. But beyond that, is there anything further to be said? Is it really a matter for the police? Do you really want it to be illegal for people to say unpleasant things to one another?
rob the saint in NZ wrote:Exactly! I can't understand why anyone cannot see this. Not to condemn such an act is effectively saying that it's acceptable just because he works in the public eye!
Georgem wrote:It's not the end of the World, no - but to so casually dismiss such appaling behaviour is to almost condone it.
IronLady2010 wrote:I have to agree. This is not the end of thw world.
SOULJACKER wrote:God forbid what? A few words posted on a Social media site?
J.K. wrote:Who cares J.K....you are obviously an inbred tw@t & God forbid it should happen to you....N0B!
Who cares, there are far more worse things in life, comes with the job if you can call it that
Whilst sickening, I fail to understand why someone in the media spotlight would take any notice.
It's more the fans kicking off.
If you accept pay for being a so called celeb/player, sometimes you have to accept the rubbish that comes with it.
I very much doubt a teen is a threat and had no intention of being nasty, he was just being a teen.
As vile as his comments were, he probably thought he was being a football fan!
It's the old broken window philosophy.
By arguing against my straightforward comment you look weak & a bit of a liberal.
Georgem
says...
8:17am Sat 18 Feb 12
KeefyH44 wrote:Who said anything about fairness? Common sense? Where's the common sense in calling the police every time someone says something unpleasant? Where's the common sense in villifying one person who says something derogatory, ignoring the millions of others who are doing so, simply because he chose to be derogatory toward someone famous?
Georgem wrote:It's purely a matter of common sense. We in this country, have bent over so far backwards to be 'fair', we seem to have lost sight of ordinary common sense. To say that these remarks caused no harm is naieve and disingenuous. It is about what's right and what's acceptable and the person who made these comments, if not made to understand why it is wrong, and to suffer consequences will only go on to escalate. No one just goes out to rob a bank nor to commit other serious crimes without forewarning. It starts in a small way, stealing sweets or whatever, and I know that many children grow out of this behaviour but it all begins like this. If you cannot see just how wrong this behaviour is then it is a sad indictment of our society that anyone can be so inured to atrocity that they find this behaviour merely a minor annoyance.
Beer Monster wrote:But why should this act be punished? It's upsetting, but ultimately not harmful. You call the perpetrator a "retard". Should the police investigate this? It's the same thing. You are posting derogatory remarks about someone else, on the Internet. Where is the line drawn? What's acceptable speech and what's not? You're getting dangerously close to thoughtcrime here
megacycle wrote:Amen to a sensible post on this subject...
I've just made a donation at www.ljsfoundation.or g.uk to honour the memory of Luey Jacob. may I suggest others do likewise, even the smallest donation can be a gesture of support and solidarity for Billy and Jade in these difficult circumstances, and will show that this sick idiot's appalling behaviour has actually increased awareness of their commendable endeavours. I hope this is properly invesigated, and the perpetrator dealt with severely to show the other retards out there that you cannot get away with this kind of abuse, be it towards sportsmen or anyone else. well done Billy for responding in such a mature and dignified manner. stay strong, we're going to need your kind of talent back in the Prem...
Well done to Billy, legend wherever he roams - thank the Lord he's a Saint :-)
Georgem
says...
9:41am Sat 18 Feb 12
olddellsaint
says...
10:06am Sat 18 Feb 12
rob the saint in NZ
says...
3:05pm Sat 18 Feb 12
Georgem wrote:It's called zero tolerance.
rob the saint in NZ wrote:Right. Broken windows. Do we fix society by making broken windows illegal, then?
Georgem wrote:I think as a society we need to draw a line on what is & what isn't acceptable behaviour & stop molly coddling.
KeefyH44 wrote:Err, I HAVE condemned the act. I don't see why anything that isn't actual baying for blood has to be considered condonement. To make comments about someone's recently-deceased child is twisted. I don't think anybody disagrees with that. But beyond that, is there anything further to be said? Is it really a matter for the police? Do you really want it to be illegal for people to say unpleasant things to one another?
rob the saint in NZ wrote:Exactly! I can't understand why anyone cannot see this. Not to condemn such an act is effectively saying that it's acceptable just because he works in the public eye!
Georgem wrote:It's not the end of the World, no - but to so casually dismiss such appaling behaviour is to almost condone it.
IronLady2010 wrote:I have to agree. This is not the end of thw world.
SOULJACKER wrote:God forbid what? A few words posted on a Social media site?
J.K. wrote:Who cares J.K....you are obviously an inbred tw@t & God forbid it should happen to you....N0B!
Who cares, there are far more worse things in life, comes with the job if you can call it that
Whilst sickening, I fail to understand why someone in the media spotlight would take any notice.
It's more the fans kicking off.
If you accept pay for being a so called celeb/player, sometimes you have to accept the rubbish that comes with it.
I very much doubt a teen is a threat and had no intention of being nasty, he was just being a teen.
As vile as his comments were, he probably thought he was being a football fan!
It's the old broken window philosophy.
By arguing against my straightforward comment you look weak & a bit of a liberal.
Georgem
says...
6:53pm Sat 18 Feb 12
rob the saint in NZ wrote:I'm not being obtuse. Perhaps if you didn't fall back repeatedly on cliches and soundbites, you'd get better responses. I'm adopting a zero tolerance approach on your shortcuts to self-expression
Georgem wrote:It's called zero tolerance.
rob the saint in NZ wrote:Right. Broken windows. Do we fix society by making broken windows illegal, then?
Georgem wrote:I think as a society we need to draw a line on what is & what isn't acceptable behaviour & stop molly coddling.
KeefyH44 wrote:Err, I HAVE condemned the act. I don't see why anything that isn't actual baying for blood has to be considered condonement. To make comments about someone's recently-deceased child is twisted. I don't think anybody disagrees with that. But beyond that, is there anything further to be said? Is it really a matter for the police? Do you really want it to be illegal for people to say unpleasant things to one another?
rob the saint in NZ wrote:Exactly! I can't understand why anyone cannot see this. Not to condemn such an act is effectively saying that it's acceptable just because he works in the public eye!
Georgem wrote:It's not the end of the World, no - but to so casually dismiss such appaling behaviour is to almost condone it.
IronLady2010 wrote:I have to agree. This is not the end of thw world.
SOULJACKER wrote:God forbid what? A few words posted on a Social media site?
J.K. wrote:Who cares J.K....you are obviously an inbred tw@t & God forbid it should happen to you....N0B!
Who cares, there are far more worse things in life, comes with the job if you can call it that
Whilst sickening, I fail to understand why someone in the media spotlight would take any notice.
It's more the fans kicking off.
If you accept pay for being a so called celeb/player, sometimes you have to accept the rubbish that comes with it.
I very much doubt a teen is a threat and had no intention of being nasty, he was just being a teen.
As vile as his comments were, he probably thought he was being a football fan!
It's the old broken window philosophy.
By arguing against my straightforward comment you look weak & a bit of a liberal.
Stop being obtuse.
KeefyH44
says...
8:49pm Sat 18 Feb 12
rob the saint in NZ wrote:Pnce you begin ignoring the graffiti and broken windows, then it escalates until we are living in ghettos of lawlessness. If anyone cannot see that this is no different then there is something wrong. I have not called this person names, but they DO need to be called to account and made to realise what is wrong with their behaviour. It's not just calling names, it is behaviour designed to stress and cause mental harm. A mother and her disabled daughter were subjected to behaviour like this and it was ignored, just kids, a few names. She killed herself and her daughter but it's not serious is it!!!
Georgem wrote:It's called zero tolerance.
rob the saint in NZ wrote:Right. Broken windows. Do we fix society by making broken windows illegal, then?
Georgem wrote:I think as a society we need to draw a line on what is & what isn't acceptable behaviour & stop molly coddling.
KeefyH44 wrote:Err, I HAVE condemned the act. I don't see why anything that isn't actual baying for blood has to be considered condonement. To make comments about someone's recently-deceased child is twisted. I don't think anybody disagrees with that. But beyond that, is there anything further to be said? Is it really a matter for the police? Do you really want it to be illegal for people to say unpleasant things to one another?
rob the saint in NZ wrote:Exactly! I can't understand why anyone cannot see this. Not to condemn such an act is effectively saying that it's acceptable just because he works in the public eye!
Georgem wrote:It's not the end of the World, no - but to so casually dismiss such appaling behaviour is to almost condone it.
IronLady2010 wrote:I have to agree. This is not the end of thw world.
SOULJACKER wrote:God forbid what? A few words posted on a Social media site?
J.K. wrote:Who cares J.K....you are obviously an inbred tw@t & God forbid it should happen to you....N0B!
Who cares, there are far more worse things in life, comes with the job if you can call it that
Whilst sickening, I fail to understand why someone in the media spotlight would take any notice.
It's more the fans kicking off.
If you accept pay for being a so called celeb/player, sometimes you have to accept the rubbish that comes with it.
I very much doubt a teen is a threat and had no intention of being nasty, he was just being a teen.
As vile as his comments were, he probably thought he was being a football fan!
It's the old broken window philosophy.
By arguing against my straightforward comment you look weak & a bit of a liberal.
Stop being obtuse.
megacycle
says...
11:50pm Sat 18 Feb 12
Georgem wrote:what was said was more than unpleasant, it was sick, vile, evil and repugnant. by punishing the "person" who did this to someone famous, you send a warning to all those who do it to others.
KeefyH44 wrote:Who said anything about fairness? Common sense? Where's the common sense in calling the police every time someone says something unpleasant? Where's the common sense in villifying one person who says something derogatory, ignoring the millions of others who are doing so, simply because he chose to be derogatory toward someone famous?
Georgem wrote:It's purely a matter of common sense. We in this country, have bent over so far backwards to be 'fair', we seem to have lost sight of ordinary common sense. To say that these remarks caused no harm is naieve and disingenuous. It is about what's right and what's acceptable and the person who made these comments, if not made to understand why it is wrong, and to suffer consequences will only go on to escalate. No one just goes out to rob a bank nor to commit other serious crimes without forewarning. It starts in a small way, stealing sweets or whatever, and I know that many children grow out of this behaviour but it all begins like this. If you cannot see just how wrong this behaviour is then it is a sad indictment of our society that anyone can be so inured to atrocity that they find this behaviour merely a minor annoyance.
Beer Monster wrote:But why should this act be punished? It's upsetting, but ultimately not harmful. You call the perpetrator a "retard". Should the police investigate this? It's the same thing. You are posting derogatory remarks about someone else, on the Internet. Where is the line drawn? What's acceptable speech and what's not? You're getting dangerously close to thoughtcrime here
megacycle wrote:Amen to a sensible post on this subject...
I've just made a donation at www.ljsfoundation.or g.uk to honour the memory of Luey Jacob. may I suggest others do likewise, even the smallest donation can be a gesture of support and solidarity for Billy and Jade in these difficult circumstances, and will show that this sick idiot's appalling behaviour has actually increased awareness of their commendable endeavours. I hope this is properly invesigated, and the perpetrator dealt with severely to show the other retards out there that you cannot get away with this kind of abuse, be it towards sportsmen or anyone else. well done Billy for responding in such a mature and dignified manner. stay strong, we're going to need your kind of talent back in the Prem...
Well done to Billy, legend wherever he roams - thank the Lord he's a Saint :-)
Funnily enough, I'm being painted as some lily-livered liberal for some reason, but the thinking that says "arrest the man who tweeted something nasty" is the same thinking that wants kids involved in playground scuffles to be arrested and prosecuted for "assault". Talk to me about common sense, please.
andysaints007
says...
11:01am Mon 20 Feb 12
IronLady2010 wrote:Some of us can do both !!!!
nothing better than a glass of wine among nice friends.we don't need a ball for that.cheers!
Georgem
says...
12:40pm Mon 20 Feb 12
megacycle wrote:*headdesk* I do understand what so many people are upset about. Just because I don't share the bloodlust of the rest of you, doesn't mean I don't understand it. I just don't think it's a matter for the law. But hey, let's just arrest everyone for everything, and the world will magically turn into a fairytale toytown, with candy floss trees and streets paved with marshmallows
Georgem wrote:what was said was more than unpleasant, it was sick, vile, evil and repugnant. by punishing the "person" who did this to someone famous, you send a warning to all those who do it to others.
KeefyH44 wrote:Who said anything about fairness? Common sense? Where's the common sense in calling the police every time someone says something unpleasant? Where's the common sense in villifying one person who says something derogatory, ignoring the millions of others who are doing so, simply because he chose to be derogatory toward someone famous?
Georgem wrote:It's purely a matter of common sense. We in this country, have bent over so far backwards to be 'fair', we seem to have lost sight of ordinary common sense. To say that these remarks caused no harm is naieve and disingenuous. It is about what's right and what's acceptable and the person who made these comments, if not made to understand why it is wrong, and to suffer consequences will only go on to escalate. No one just goes out to rob a bank nor to commit other serious crimes without forewarning. It starts in a small way, stealing sweets or whatever, and I know that many children grow out of this behaviour but it all begins like this. If you cannot see just how wrong this behaviour is then it is a sad indictment of our society that anyone can be so inured to atrocity that they find this behaviour merely a minor annoyance.
Beer Monster wrote:But why should this act be punished? It's upsetting, but ultimately not harmful. You call the perpetrator a "retard". Should the police investigate this? It's the same thing. You are posting derogatory remarks about someone else, on the Internet. Where is the line drawn? What's acceptable speech and what's not? You're getting dangerously close to thoughtcrime here
megacycle wrote:Amen to a sensible post on this subject...
I've just made a donation at www.ljsfoundation.or g.uk to honour the memory of Luey Jacob. may I suggest others do likewise, even the smallest donation can be a gesture of support and solidarity for Billy and Jade in these difficult circumstances, and will show that this sick idiot's appalling behaviour has actually increased awareness of their commendable endeavours. I hope this is properly invesigated, and the perpetrator dealt with severely to show the other retards out there that you cannot get away with this kind of abuse, be it towards sportsmen or anyone else. well done Billy for responding in such a mature and dignified manner. stay strong, we're going to need your kind of talent back in the Prem...
Well done to Billy, legend wherever he roams - thank the Lord he's a Saint :-)
Funnily enough, I'm being painted as some lily-livered liberal for some reason, but the thinking that says "arrest the man who tweeted something nasty" is the same thinking that wants kids involved in playground scuffles to be arrested and prosecuted for "assault". Talk to me about common sense, please.
you seem to have time on your hands, have you seen Billy's goal & tribute, or the tweets in question? both are linked in this thread. please try to understand what so many people are upset about, and have some sympathy for Jade & their families, non-famous people who will have been just as deeply if not more hurt by these comments.
Georgem
says...
12:40pm Mon 20 Feb 12
megacycle wrote:*headdesk* I do understand what so many people are upset about. Just because I don't share the bloodlust of the rest of you, doesn't mean I don't understand it. I just don't think it's a matter for the law. But hey, let's just arrest everyone for everything, and the world will magically turn into a fairytale toytown, with candy floss trees and streets paved with marshmallows
Georgem wrote:what was said was more than unpleasant, it was sick, vile, evil and repugnant. by punishing the "person" who did this to someone famous, you send a warning to all those who do it to others.
KeefyH44 wrote:Who said anything about fairness? Common sense? Where's the common sense in calling the police every time someone says something unpleasant? Where's the common sense in villifying one person who says something derogatory, ignoring the millions of others who are doing so, simply because he chose to be derogatory toward someone famous?
Georgem wrote:It's purely a matter of common sense. We in this country, have bent over so far backwards to be 'fair', we seem to have lost sight of ordinary common sense. To say that these remarks caused no harm is naieve and disingenuous. It is about what's right and what's acceptable and the person who made these comments, if not made to understand why it is wrong, and to suffer consequences will only go on to escalate. No one just goes out to rob a bank nor to commit other serious crimes without forewarning. It starts in a small way, stealing sweets or whatever, and I know that many children grow out of this behaviour but it all begins like this. If you cannot see just how wrong this behaviour is then it is a sad indictment of our society that anyone can be so inured to atrocity that they find this behaviour merely a minor annoyance.
Beer Monster wrote:But why should this act be punished? It's upsetting, but ultimately not harmful. You call the perpetrator a "retard". Should the police investigate this? It's the same thing. You are posting derogatory remarks about someone else, on the Internet. Where is the line drawn? What's acceptable speech and what's not? You're getting dangerously close to thoughtcrime here
megacycle wrote:Amen to a sensible post on this subject...
I've just made a donation at www.ljsfoundation.or g.uk to honour the memory of Luey Jacob. may I suggest others do likewise, even the smallest donation can be a gesture of support and solidarity for Billy and Jade in these difficult circumstances, and will show that this sick idiot's appalling behaviour has actually increased awareness of their commendable endeavours. I hope this is properly invesigated, and the perpetrator dealt with severely to show the other retards out there that you cannot get away with this kind of abuse, be it towards sportsmen or anyone else. well done Billy for responding in such a mature and dignified manner. stay strong, we're going to need your kind of talent back in the Prem...
Well done to Billy, legend wherever he roams - thank the Lord he's a Saint :-)
Funnily enough, I'm being painted as some lily-livered liberal for some reason, but the thinking that says "arrest the man who tweeted something nasty" is the same thinking that wants kids involved in playground scuffles to be arrested and prosecuted for "assault". Talk to me about common sense, please.
you seem to have time on your hands, have you seen Billy's goal & tribute, or the tweets in question? both are linked in this thread. please try to understand what so many people are upset about, and have some sympathy for Jade & their families, non-famous people who will have been just as deeply if not more hurt by these comments.
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Andy_Germany says...
9:55am Thu 16 Feb 12