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First look inside £15m SeaCity Museum (From Daily Echo)
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First look inside Southampton's £15m SeaCity Museum and Titanic exhibition
7:12am Tuesday 27th March 2012 in News
By Jon Reeve, Education Reporter
First look inside £15m SeaCity Museum
It has been five years in the planning, but a century in the making.
Southampton’s new £15m SeaCity Museum is finally ready for business, in time to form the centrepiece of the city’s commemorations of the 100th anniversary of Titanic sailing from the city on its illfated maiden voyage.
Ahead of the official opening on April 10, the Daily Echo can reveal the first glimpses inside the attraction and its exhibits.
While on the outside, SeaCity has brought the distinctive extension to the side of the Civic Centre, inside, the old magistrates’ court has been transformed almost totally beyond recognition.
The museum is split into three sections. Two permanent areas tell the story of Southampton’s association with Titanic – including a sombre display bearing the names and many pictures of all 538 crew from the city who died in the tragedy – and its role as an international gateway.
Because of the centenary of the sinking, SeaCity’s new extension has been filled with a temporary display given over to the White Star liner, but the space will ultimately be used to house a variety of changing exhibitions.
The museum has a number of interactive exhibits, giving visitors the chance to pilot Titanic out of Southampton Water, see how they would cope fuelling the boilers with coal, and discover if they could spot an iceberg using century-old equipment.
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One of the old courtrooms has been given over to recounting the story of the inquiry into what caused the disaster.
Maria Newbery, curator of maritime and local collections for Southampton City Council, said: “It’s great to see the reality of a project that has been in development so long.
There’s obviously lots of things we’d still like to change or add to, but we’re very proud of it.
“I think the Titanic gallery is very good, the disaster room is very moving with the testimonies of the people who were actually there, and it’s great to be able to show off our collection in such a lovely building.”
Find out more about Titanic
You can find out more about Titanic and the disaster's impact on Southampton with the Daily Echo.
Throughout the coming months ahead of the centenary in April, we will be showcasing unique content in our Titanic mini-site.
In the meantime, you can discover key sites across the city relating to the tragedy, the latest news relating to the ship or even find out some of the key facts behind the vessel, her demise and the people who perished and survived, including a list of all the crew members and the locations of their homes in Southampton.
Comments(40)
spudsun66
says...
8:09am Tue 27 Mar 12
Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.
Stillness
says...
8:21am Tue 27 Mar 12
spudsun66 wrote:I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.
owen_thesaints
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9:02am Tue 27 Mar 12
I appreciate the signifiicance of the opening date, but can the Council afford to turn away ticket sales from school holidays and the Easter weekend by delaying opening until after Easter Monday, when we're all back to work!
soobear
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10:48am Tue 27 Mar 12
So the outside of the building is not very attractive but the money's gone on the interior exhibits by the look of it, which is what counts the most!
Its a shame Milvina isnt with us any more, she would have been guest of honour Im sure :)
Its a shame Milvina isnt with us any more, she would have been guest of honour Im sure :)
spudsun66
says...
10:56am Tue 27 Mar 12
Stillness wrote:It was....
spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
spudsun66
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11:05am Tue 27 Mar 12
spudsun66 wrote:I have a free ticket for the museum from SCC as an employee, this as a pathetic apology for the cut in wages. Thanks Royston for the gesture, and could I also have Tesco vouchers, British gas vouchers, mortgage vouchers, you see where I’m coming from?!
Stillness wrote:It was....spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
greg16
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11:21am Tue 27 Mar 12
spudsun66 wrote:Every Household in the city qualifies for a free family ticket. Perhaps if Royston and co weren't so generous with acts like that, people like you might not have lost some of your wages. Well it's good to see that the council has its priorities in order.
spudsun66 wrote:I have a free ticket for the museum from SCC as an employee, this as a pathetic apology for the cut in wages. Thanks Royston for the gesture, and could I also have Tesco vouchers, British gas vouchers, mortgage vouchers, you see where I’m coming from?!
Stillness wrote:It was....spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
Northamboy
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11:44am Tue 27 Mar 12
I have not changed my mind on how this museum has ruined the look of the Civic Centre but the inside does look good.
A pat on the back for whoever designed the layout inside but whoever gave planning consent should be sacked from the planning dept.
I did say I will never make a visit but once the museum becomes quiet after the anniversary I may take a wander along and have a look.
A pat on the back for whoever designed the layout inside but whoever gave planning consent should be sacked from the planning dept.
I did say I will never make a visit but once the museum becomes quiet after the anniversary I may take a wander along and have a look.
Hedgehogrose
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12:01pm Tue 27 Mar 12
I have just looked at the museum's website and have found that it will cost £8.50 for adult admisson.
The old Maritime Museum was interesting, made good use of Southampton's old buildings and was free wasn't it?
Now we have a hideous addition to the Civic Centre which costs £8.50 to enter and all it does it provide information about a boat that sank. There is a lot more to Southampton's maritime history than the Titanic (Queen Elizabeth, Queen Mary, QE2 etc) but I bet this hardly gets mentioned.
I for one will be saving my money and using the internet to research Southampton's unique history.
The old Maritime Museum was interesting, made good use of Southampton's old buildings and was free wasn't it?
Now we have a hideous addition to the Civic Centre which costs £8.50 to enter and all it does it provide information about a boat that sank. There is a lot more to Southampton's maritime history than the Titanic (Queen Elizabeth, Queen Mary, QE2 etc) but I bet this hardly gets mentioned.
I for one will be saving my money and using the internet to research Southampton's unique history.
Goldenwight
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12:24pm Tue 27 Mar 12
Hedgehogrose wrote:The Titanic sank? Well, there's not much point in me watching the rest of the series on TV now, is there?
I have just looked at the museum's website and have found that it will cost £8.50 for adult admisson. The old Maritime Museum was interesting, made good use of Southampton's old buildings and was free wasn't it? Now we have a hideous addition to the Civic Centre which costs £8.50 to enter and all it does it provide information about a boat that sank. There is a lot more to Southampton's maritime history than the Titanic (Queen Elizabeth, Queen Mary, QE2 etc) but I bet this hardly gets mentioned. I for one will be saving my money and using the internet to research Southampton's unique history.
The Salv
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12:44pm Tue 27 Mar 12
Looks terrific, something us Sotonians can be proud of and it's a great addition to our city. Cant wait to go there.
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I like the name too, Sea City Museum as not to give the impression it's solely the Titanic. Our City is more famous for it's maritime history and the Titantic is just something that was part of it. Let Belfast take the accolade to that, it did sink after all.
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I like the name too, Sea City Museum as not to give the impression it's solely the Titanic. Our City is more famous for it's maritime history and the Titantic is just something that was part of it. Let Belfast take the accolade to that, it did sink after all.
Brite Spark
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1:07pm Tue 27 Mar 12
I was enjoying the Titanic drama on tv last night, but my son spoiled it by telling me the ending.
ericpode
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1:31pm Tue 27 Mar 12
I went yesterday for a trial opening day and for me it was well worth the visit. There is a section about Southampton as place of migration both in and out of England so it's not just about the Titanic. It has been well integrated with the existing structure. It should prove an attraction to cruise customers as well.
George4th
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2:15pm Tue 27 Mar 12
ericpode wrote:I'm really happy to get the opinion of someone who has actually been there! Good man! I'm very pleased you liked it.
I went yesterday for a trial opening day and for me it was well worth the visit. There is a section about Southampton as place of migration both in and out of England so it's not just about the Titanic. It has been well integrated with the existing structure. It should prove an attraction to cruise customers as well.
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To all the critics, whingers, moaners, unhappy people, miserable people and anyone of that ilk, stay away!
Cllr Michael Ball
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2:25pm Tue 27 Mar 12
A marvellous addition to the city.
Jimbo2012
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2:44pm Tue 27 Mar 12
Good article Jon.
I'm really looking forward to this opening.
I understand this has taken over from both the Maritime Museum and the Museum of Archeology so I hope they have enough room for it all.
I wonder what will happen to the historic buildings that used to house these museums. I hope it will be appropriate for their historic significance and that the public will have access.
I'm interested in the early history of Southampton such as Roman Bitterne (Clausentum), Saxon St Marys (Hamwic) and medieval Southampton (or Hamtun and later Hampton).
I wonder if those who donate artefacts get 'life membership'?
I have an old Southampton trade token from the 1700's I could donate.
And will there be mention of Benny Hill of King Canute...?
I'm really looking forward to this opening.
I understand this has taken over from both the Maritime Museum and the Museum of Archeology so I hope they have enough room for it all.
I wonder what will happen to the historic buildings that used to house these museums. I hope it will be appropriate for their historic significance and that the public will have access.
I'm interested in the early history of Southampton such as Roman Bitterne (Clausentum), Saxon St Marys (Hamwic) and medieval Southampton (or Hamtun and later Hampton).
I wonder if those who donate artefacts get 'life membership'?
I have an old Southampton trade token from the 1700's I could donate.
And will there be mention of Benny Hill of King Canute...?
sottondave
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3:57pm Tue 27 Mar 12
ericpode
I can't see what attraction a museum commemorating a maritime disaster will have with cruise passengers.
I can't see what attraction a museum commemorating a maritime disaster will have with cruise passengers.
News Fanatic
says...
3:59pm Tue 27 Mar 12
Northamboy wrote:I agree. As soon as I saw the artist's impression of the extension on the Echo's website I thought ugh! It is totally out of keeping with the design of the rest of the attactive building. Perhaps Prince Charles will call it a carbunkle.
I have not changed my mind on how this museum has ruined the look of the Civic Centre but the inside does look good.
A pat on the back for whoever designed the layout inside but whoever gave planning consent should be sacked from the planning dept.
I did say I will never make a visit but once the museum becomes quiet after the anniversary I may take a wander along and have a look.
loosehead
says...
4:14pm Tue 27 Mar 12
spudsun66 wrote:So come on union brainwashed worker how was it your wages that paid for this museum?
spudsun66 wrote:I have a free ticket for the museum from SCC as an employee, this as a pathetic apology for the cut in wages. Thanks Royston for the gesture, and could I also have Tesco vouchers, British gas vouchers, mortgage vouchers, you see where I’m coming from?!
Stillness wrote:It was....spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
It's out there for all to see £5million from grant money & the rest from fundraising.Then an extra £200,000 towards the running costs so why do you lot bleat on about your wages?
Would you have been happier if this council had said 1,500+ redundancies raise in council tax & no pay rises for two years?NO well that's what your Labour party are offering.
From what I saw on the BBC this is an interactive museum where children can operate devices so getting them interested in their history I think this is great & now the schools should get on board & book school trips to show all school children their history( cities)
Lone Ranger.
says...
4:26pm Tue 27 Mar 12
loosehead wrote:There is NO WAY that £10m was raised through fundraising .. so stop this rubbish trying to convince the residents of Southampton that it was.
spudsun66 wrote:So come on union brainwashed worker how was it your wages that paid for this museum?
spudsun66 wrote:I have a free ticket for the museum from SCC as an employee, this as a pathetic apology for the cut in wages. Thanks Royston for the gesture, and could I also have Tesco vouchers, British gas vouchers, mortgage vouchers, you see where I’m coming from?!
Stillness wrote:It was....spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
It's out there for all to see £5million from grant money & the rest from fundraising.Then an extra £200,000 towards the running costs so why do you lot bleat on about your wages?
Would you have been happier if this council had said 1,500+ redundancies raise in council tax & no pay rises for two years?NO well that's what your Labour party are offering.
From what I saw on the BBC this is an interactive museum where children can operate devices so getting them interested in their history I think this is great & now the schools should get on board & book school trips to show all school children their history( cities)
jondave
says...
5:49pm Tue 27 Mar 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:No way it was paid for through fund raising? You will, naturally, have evidence to prove such a claim. We look forward to seeing it. I, on the otherhand, look forward to visiting.
loosehead wrote:There is NO WAY that £10m was raised through fundraising .. so stop this rubbish trying to convince the residents of Southampton that it was.
spudsun66 wrote:So come on union brainwashed worker how was it your wages that paid for this museum?
spudsun66 wrote:I have a free ticket for the museum from SCC as an employee, this as a pathetic apology for the cut in wages. Thanks Royston for the gesture, and could I also have Tesco vouchers, British gas vouchers, mortgage vouchers, you see where I’m coming from?!
Stillness wrote:It was....spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
It's out there for all to see £5million from grant money & the rest from fundraising.Then an extra £200,000 towards the running costs so why do you lot bleat on about your wages?
Would you have been happier if this council had said 1,500+ redundancies raise in council tax & no pay rises for two years?NO well that's what your Labour party are offering.
From what I saw on the BBC this is an interactive museum where children can operate devices so getting them interested in their history I think this is great & now the schools should get on board & book school trips to show all school children their history( cities)
Lone Ranger.
says...
5:57pm Tue 27 Mar 12
jondave wrote:In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
Lone Ranger. wrote:No way it was paid for through fund raising? You will, naturally, have evidence to prove such a claim. We look forward to seeing it. I, on the otherhand, look forward to visiting.
loosehead wrote:There is NO WAY that £10m was raised through fundraising .. so stop this rubbish trying to convince the residents of Southampton that it was.
spudsun66 wrote:So come on union brainwashed worker how was it your wages that paid for this museum?
spudsun66 wrote:I have a free ticket for the museum from SCC as an employee, this as a pathetic apology for the cut in wages. Thanks Royston for the gesture, and could I also have Tesco vouchers, British gas vouchers, mortgage vouchers, you see where I’m coming from?!
Stillness wrote:It was....spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
It's out there for all to see £5million from grant money & the rest from fundraising.Then an extra £200,000 towards the running costs so why do you lot bleat on about your wages?
Would you have been happier if this council had said 1,500+ redundancies raise in council tax & no pay rises for two years?NO well that's what your Labour party are offering.
From what I saw on the BBC this is an interactive museum where children can operate devices so getting them interested in their history I think this is great & now the schools should get on board & book school trips to show all school children their history( cities)
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
.
Enjoy your visit ...... like me you have contributed ..
spudsun66
says...
6:20pm Tue 27 Mar 12
loosehead wrote:Who's this Royston?
spudsun66 wrote:So come on union brainwashed worker how was it your wages that paid for this museum?
spudsun66 wrote:I have a free ticket for the museum from SCC as an employee, this as a pathetic apology for the cut in wages. Thanks Royston for the gesture, and could I also have Tesco vouchers, British gas vouchers, mortgage vouchers, you see where I’m coming from?!
Stillness wrote:It was....spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
It's out there for all to see £5million from grant money & the rest from fundraising.Then an extra £200,000 towards the running costs so why do you lot bleat on about your wages?
Would you have been happier if this council had said 1,500+ redundancies raise in council tax & no pay rises for two years?NO well that's what your Labour party are offering.
From what I saw on the BBC this is an interactive museum where children can operate devices so getting them interested in their history I think this is great & now the schools should get on board & book school trips to show all school children their history( cities)
Huffter
says...
7:28pm Tue 27 Mar 12
News Fanatic wrote:I think it can only be an improvement - the Civic Centre is one of the most hideous buildings I've ever had the misfortune to clap eyes on!
Northamboy wrote: I have not changed my mind on how this museum has ruined the look of the Civic Centre but the inside does look good. A pat on the back for whoever designed the layout inside but whoever gave planning consent should be sacked from the planning dept. I did say I will never make a visit but once the museum becomes quiet after the anniversary I may take a wander along and have a look.I agree. As soon as I saw the artist's impression of the extension on the Echo's website I thought ugh! It is totally out of keeping with the design of the rest of the attactive building. Perhaps Prince Charles will call it a carbunkle.
opera phantom
says...
8:31pm Tue 27 Mar 12
I know that it will make steam come out of the ears of some, but
Portsmouth Guildhall is a magnificent building compared to
the Civic Centre.
Portsmouth Guildhall is a magnificent building compared to
the Civic Centre.
loosehead
says...
9:08pm Tue 27 Mar 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:Well done Lone Ranger it's nice to see that you know it wasn't taken from the wages of council workers & this is just another myth!
jondave wrote:In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
Lone Ranger. wrote:No way it was paid for through fund raising? You will, naturally, have evidence to prove such a claim. We look forward to seeing it. I, on the otherhand, look forward to visiting.
loosehead wrote:There is NO WAY that £10m was raised through fundraising .. so stop this rubbish trying to convince the residents of Southampton that it was.
spudsun66 wrote:So come on union brainwashed worker how was it your wages that paid for this museum?
spudsun66 wrote:I have a free ticket for the museum from SCC as an employee, this as a pathetic apology for the cut in wages. Thanks Royston for the gesture, and could I also have Tesco vouchers, British gas vouchers, mortgage vouchers, you see where I’m coming from?!
Stillness wrote:It was....spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
It's out there for all to see £5million from grant money & the rest from fundraising.Then an extra £200,000 towards the running costs so why do you lot bleat on about your wages?
Would you have been happier if this council had said 1,500+ redundancies raise in council tax & no pay rises for two years?NO well that's what your Labour party are offering.
From what I saw on the BBC this is an interactive museum where children can operate devices so getting them interested in their history I think this is great & now the schools should get on board & book school trips to show all school children their history( cities)
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
.
Enjoy your visit ...... like me you have contributed ..
As for the selling of Millbrook Industrial estate have you been down there?
how much do you think it would cost to repair & maintain the existing structures?
don't forget if you lease out a building you are still liable for it's maintenance.
selling it brought dividends straight away & new clients have been found by the now owners.
you also must know that the savings had to be done as an amount to be carried on over four years.
no point selling the estate & keeping jobs & wages the same as come next year you'd be back where you started from.
It's about time you & your Union mates admitted this is a red herring & this museums funding had/has nothing to do with wages
loosehead
says...
9:12pm Tue 27 Mar 12
spudsun66 wrote:I was in the TA & was given a commendation for my actions in a road crash whilst on duty but I've never had the honour of being given a medal so if you want to put me in the same category as Royston Thank You.
loosehead wrote:Who's this Royston?
spudsun66 wrote:So come on union brainwashed worker how was it your wages that paid for this museum?
spudsun66 wrote:I have a free ticket for the museum from SCC as an employee, this as a pathetic apology for the cut in wages. Thanks Royston for the gesture, and could I also have Tesco vouchers, British gas vouchers, mortgage vouchers, you see where I’m coming from?!
Stillness wrote:It was....spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
It's out there for all to see £5million from grant money & the rest from fundraising.Then an extra £200,000 towards the running costs so why do you lot bleat on about your wages?
Would you have been happier if this council had said 1,500+ redundancies raise in council tax & no pay rises for two years?NO well that's what your Labour party are offering.
From what I saw on the BBC this is an interactive museum where children can operate devices so getting them interested in their history I think this is great & now the schools should get on board & book school trips to show all school children their history( cities)
If you read Lone Rangers reply you will see not a penny of your wages were used for this museum so who told you this blatant lie?
loosehead
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9:15pm Tue 27 Mar 12
Huffter wrote:Did you see the original plans for the original Civc? it would have gone right across the park to the left of where the museum is now it was going to be massive I can't remember why they scaled it down but it was in the echo
News Fanatic wrote:I think it can only be an improvement - the Civic Centre is one of the most hideous buildings I've ever had the misfortune to clap eyes on!
Northamboy wrote: I have not changed my mind on how this museum has ruined the look of the Civic Centre but the inside does look good. A pat on the back for whoever designed the layout inside but whoever gave planning consent should be sacked from the planning dept. I did say I will never make a visit but once the museum becomes quiet after the anniversary I may take a wander along and have a look.I agree. As soon as I saw the artist's impression of the extension on the Echo's website I thought ugh! It is totally out of keeping with the design of the rest of the attactive building. Perhaps Prince Charles will call it a carbunkle.
Lone Ranger.
says...
7:10am Wed 28 Mar 12
loosehead wrote:Your problem is that your posts are totally incoherent.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Well done Lone Ranger it's nice to see that you know it wasn't taken from the wages of council workers & this is just another myth!
jondave wrote:In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
Lone Ranger. wrote:No way it was paid for through fund raising? You will, naturally, have evidence to prove such a claim. We look forward to seeing it. I, on the otherhand, look forward to visiting.
loosehead wrote:There is NO WAY that £10m was raised through fundraising .. so stop this rubbish trying to convince the residents of Southampton that it was.
spudsun66 wrote:So come on union brainwashed worker how was it your wages that paid for this museum?
spudsun66 wrote:I have a free ticket for the museum from SCC as an employee, this as a pathetic apology for the cut in wages. Thanks Royston for the gesture, and could I also have Tesco vouchers, British gas vouchers, mortgage vouchers, you see where I’m coming from?!
Stillness wrote:It was....spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
It's out there for all to see £5million from grant money & the rest from fundraising.Then an extra £200,000 towards the running costs so why do you lot bleat on about your wages?
Would you have been happier if this council had said 1,500+ redundancies raise in council tax & no pay rises for two years?NO well that's what your Labour party are offering.
From what I saw on the BBC this is an interactive museum where children can operate devices so getting them interested in their history I think this is great & now the schools should get on board & book school trips to show all school children their history( cities)
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
.
Enjoy your visit ...... like me you have contributed ..
As for the selling of Millbrook Industrial estate have you been down there?
how much do you think it would cost to repair & maintain the existing structures?
don't forget if you lease out a building you are still liable for it's maintenance.
selling it brought dividends straight away & new clients have been found by the now owners.
you also must know that the savings had to be done as an amount to be carried on over four years.
no point selling the estate & keeping jobs & wages the same as come next year you'd be back where you started from.
It's about time you & your Union mates admitted this is a red herring & this museums funding had/has nothing to do with wages
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You post in the morning as if you are still asleep ... and you post at night as if you have just come back from the Horns.
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I have made no mention of wages.
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I have made no mention of Millbrook estate.
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I have made no mention of wages.
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THe Sea City Museum has cost taxpayers money .. Big time .. and your dear Cllr said it would not.
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Even you have come on here and lied about its funding
loosehead
says...
7:31am Wed 28 Mar 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:Right You came on here replying to a comment I'd made in reply to a post where it was stated wages were used
loosehead wrote:Your problem is that your posts are totally incoherent.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Well done Lone Ranger it's nice to see that you know it wasn't taken from the wages of council workers & this is just another myth!
jondave wrote:In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
Lone Ranger. wrote:No way it was paid for through fund raising? You will, naturally, have evidence to prove such a claim. We look forward to seeing it. I, on the otherhand, look forward to visiting.
loosehead wrote:There is NO WAY that £10m was raised through fundraising .. so stop this rubbish trying to convince the residents of Southampton that it was.
spudsun66 wrote:So come on union brainwashed worker how was it your wages that paid for this museum?
spudsun66 wrote:I have a free ticket for the museum from SCC as an employee, this as a pathetic apology for the cut in wages. Thanks Royston for the gesture, and could I also have Tesco vouchers, British gas vouchers, mortgage vouchers, you see where I’m coming from?!
Stillness wrote:It was....spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
It's out there for all to see £5million from grant money & the rest from fundraising.Then an extra £200,000 towards the running costs so why do you lot bleat on about your wages?
Would you have been happier if this council had said 1,500+ redundancies raise in council tax & no pay rises for two years?NO well that's what your Labour party are offering.
From what I saw on the BBC this is an interactive museum where children can operate devices so getting them interested in their history I think this is great & now the schools should get on board & book school trips to show all school children their history( cities)
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
.
Enjoy your visit ...... like me you have contributed ..
As for the selling of Millbrook Industrial estate have you been down there?
how much do you think it would cost to repair & maintain the existing structures?
don't forget if you lease out a building you are still liable for it's maintenance.
selling it brought dividends straight away & new clients have been found by the now owners.
you also must know that the savings had to be done as an amount to be carried on over four years.
no point selling the estate & keeping jobs & wages the same as come next year you'd be back where you started from.
It's about time you & your Union mates admitted this is a red herring & this museums funding had/has nothing to do with wages
.
You post in the morning as if you are still asleep ... and you post at night as if you have just come back from the Horns.
.
I have made no mention of wages.
.
I have made no mention of Millbrook estate.
.
I have made no mention of wages.
.
THe Sea City Museum has cost taxpayers money .. Big time .. and your dear Cllr said it would not.
.
Even you have come on here and lied about its funding
spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.
So you were talking about wages as I was.
you lose an argument & you come up with this?
Horns Inn? haven't been in there for at least 16 years,I've not had a drop of drink since the beginning of January.
incoherent? what doesn't your left wing mind let you read the truth?
you pointed out the selling of assets did you not?
In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
so you didn't post this then?
the asset was Millbrook Trading (industrial)Estate & I was pointing out how much would have to be spent on it to attract more income.
if you can't read this take of your red coloured glasses & try again you should try looking at the real picture not just your opinion
Lone Ranger.
says...
9:43am Wed 28 Mar 12
loosehead wrote:Ummmm ........ so you havent disputed the fact that taxpayers money has been used and that only £5m has been found from a grant.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Right You came on here replying to a comment I'd made in reply to a post where it was stated wages were used
loosehead wrote:Your problem is that your posts are totally incoherent.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Well done Lone Ranger it's nice to see that you know it wasn't taken from the wages of council workers & this is just another myth!
jondave wrote:In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
Lone Ranger. wrote:No way it was paid for through fund raising? You will, naturally, have evidence to prove such a claim. We look forward to seeing it. I, on the otherhand, look forward to visiting.
loosehead wrote:There is NO WAY that £10m was raised through fundraising .. so stop this rubbish trying to convince the residents of Southampton that it was.
spudsun66 wrote:So come on union brainwashed worker how was it your wages that paid for this museum?
spudsun66 wrote:I have a free ticket for the museum from SCC as an employee, this as a pathetic apology for the cut in wages. Thanks Royston for the gesture, and could I also have Tesco vouchers, British gas vouchers, mortgage vouchers, you see where I’m coming from?!
Stillness wrote:It was....spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
It's out there for all to see £5million from grant money & the rest from fundraising.Then an extra £200,000 towards the running costs so why do you lot bleat on about your wages?
Would you have been happier if this council had said 1,500+ redundancies raise in council tax & no pay rises for two years?NO well that's what your Labour party are offering.
From what I saw on the BBC this is an interactive museum where children can operate devices so getting them interested in their history I think this is great & now the schools should get on board & book school trips to show all school children their history( cities)
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
.
Enjoy your visit ...... like me you have contributed ..
As for the selling of Millbrook Industrial estate have you been down there?
how much do you think it would cost to repair & maintain the existing structures?
don't forget if you lease out a building you are still liable for it's maintenance.
selling it brought dividends straight away & new clients have been found by the now owners.
you also must know that the savings had to be done as an amount to be carried on over four years.
no point selling the estate & keeping jobs & wages the same as come next year you'd be back where you started from.
It's about time you & your Union mates admitted this is a red herring & this museums funding had/has nothing to do with wages
.
You post in the morning as if you are still asleep ... and you post at night as if you have just come back from the Horns.
.
I have made no mention of wages.
.
I have made no mention of Millbrook estate.
.
I have made no mention of wages.
.
THe Sea City Museum has cost taxpayers money .. Big time .. and your dear Cllr said it would not.
.
Even you have come on here and lied about its funding
spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.
So you were talking about wages as I was.
you lose an argument & you come up with this?
Horns Inn? haven't been in there for at least 16 years,I've not had a drop of drink since the beginning of January.
incoherent? what doesn't your left wing mind let you read the truth?
you pointed out the selling of assets did you not?
In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
so you didn't post this then?
the asset was Millbrook Trading (industrial)Estate & I was pointing out how much would have to be spent on it to attract more income.
if you can't read this take of your red coloured glasses & try again you should try looking at the real picture not just your opinion
.
So £10m has not been raised from fundraising has it.... Only from taxpayers money that we were told would not be used
loosehead
says...
12:51pm Wed 28 Mar 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:Lone Ranger you fall on your own words but still can't accept defeat & you & all the posters who come on here saying this was council workers wages still bang on about it.
loosehead wrote:Ummmm ........ so you havent disputed the fact that taxpayers money has been used and that only £5m has been found from a grant.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Right You came on here replying to a comment I'd made in reply to a post where it was stated wages were used
loosehead wrote:Your problem is that your posts are totally incoherent.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Well done Lone Ranger it's nice to see that you know it wasn't taken from the wages of council workers & this is just another myth!
jondave wrote:In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
Lone Ranger. wrote:No way it was paid for through fund raising? You will, naturally, have evidence to prove such a claim. We look forward to seeing it. I, on the otherhand, look forward to visiting.
loosehead wrote:There is NO WAY that £10m was raised through fundraising .. so stop this rubbish trying to convince the residents of Southampton that it was.
spudsun66 wrote:So come on union brainwashed worker how was it your wages that paid for this museum?
spudsun66 wrote:I have a free ticket for the museum from SCC as an employee, this as a pathetic apology for the cut in wages. Thanks Royston for the gesture, and could I also have Tesco vouchers, British gas vouchers, mortgage vouchers, you see where I’m coming from?!
Stillness wrote:It was....spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
It's out there for all to see £5million from grant money & the rest from fundraising.Then an extra £200,000 towards the running costs so why do you lot bleat on about your wages?
Would you have been happier if this council had said 1,500+ redundancies raise in council tax & no pay rises for two years?NO well that's what your Labour party are offering.
From what I saw on the BBC this is an interactive museum where children can operate devices so getting them interested in their history I think this is great & now the schools should get on board & book school trips to show all school children their history( cities)
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
.
Enjoy your visit ...... like me you have contributed ..
As for the selling of Millbrook Industrial estate have you been down there?
how much do you think it would cost to repair & maintain the existing structures?
don't forget if you lease out a building you are still liable for it's maintenance.
selling it brought dividends straight away & new clients have been found by the now owners.
you also must know that the savings had to be done as an amount to be carried on over four years.
no point selling the estate & keeping jobs & wages the same as come next year you'd be back where you started from.
It's about time you & your Union mates admitted this is a red herring & this museums funding had/has nothing to do with wages
.
You post in the morning as if you are still asleep ... and you post at night as if you have just come back from the Horns.
.
I have made no mention of wages.
.
I have made no mention of Millbrook estate.
.
I have made no mention of wages.
.
THe Sea City Museum has cost taxpayers money .. Big time .. and your dear Cllr said it would not.
.
Even you have come on here and lied about its funding
spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.
So you were talking about wages as I was.
you lose an argument & you come up with this?
Horns Inn? haven't been in there for at least 16 years,I've not had a drop of drink since the beginning of January.
incoherent? what doesn't your left wing mind let you read the truth?
you pointed out the selling of assets did you not?
In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
so you didn't post this then?
the asset was Millbrook Trading (industrial)Estate & I was pointing out how much would have to be spent on it to attract more income.
if you can't read this take of your red coloured glasses & try again you should try looking at the real picture not just your opinion
.
So £10m has not been raised from fundraising has it.... Only from taxpayers money that we were told would not be used
if you are indeed worried about council tax then surely you can't vote Labour can you? or do you want to see your tax rise every year?
This very paper has stated that the funding of this project will come from grants & fundraising.
the money from the sell of the industrial estate was used to pay the contractors for the building work whilst the fundraising was getting into gear.
once enough funds have been collected to cover said monies this will be used elsewhere in this city.
You come on here with such a blinkered view it's unbelievable.
Unlike you I agree & disagree with projects going on in this city.
I don't agree with more office space unless there's a definite customer lined up
Lone Ranger.
says...
4:59pm Wed 28 Mar 12
loosehead wrote:Not mentioned wages.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Lone Ranger you fall on your own words but still can't accept defeat & you & all the posters who come on here saying this was council workers wages still bang on about it.
loosehead wrote:Ummmm ........ so you havent disputed the fact that taxpayers money has been used and that only £5m has been found from a grant.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Right You came on here replying to a comment I'd made in reply to a post where it was stated wages were used
loosehead wrote:Your problem is that your posts are totally incoherent.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Well done Lone Ranger it's nice to see that you know it wasn't taken from the wages of council workers & this is just another myth!
jondave wrote:In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
Lone Ranger. wrote:No way it was paid for through fund raising? You will, naturally, have evidence to prove such a claim. We look forward to seeing it. I, on the otherhand, look forward to visiting.
loosehead wrote:There is NO WAY that £10m was raised through fundraising .. so stop this rubbish trying to convince the residents of Southampton that it was.
spudsun66 wrote:So come on union brainwashed worker how was it your wages that paid for this museum?
spudsun66 wrote:I have a free ticket for the museum from SCC as an employee, this as a pathetic apology for the cut in wages. Thanks Royston for the gesture, and could I also have Tesco vouchers, British gas vouchers, mortgage vouchers, you see where I’m coming from?!
Stillness wrote:It was....spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
It's out there for all to see £5million from grant money & the rest from fundraising.Then an extra £200,000 towards the running costs so why do you lot bleat on about your wages?
Would you have been happier if this council had said 1,500+ redundancies raise in council tax & no pay rises for two years?NO well that's what your Labour party are offering.
From what I saw on the BBC this is an interactive museum where children can operate devices so getting them interested in their history I think this is great & now the schools should get on board & book school trips to show all school children their history( cities)
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
.
Enjoy your visit ...... like me you have contributed ..
As for the selling of Millbrook Industrial estate have you been down there?
how much do you think it would cost to repair & maintain the existing structures?
don't forget if you lease out a building you are still liable for it's maintenance.
selling it brought dividends straight away & new clients have been found by the now owners.
you also must know that the savings had to be done as an amount to be carried on over four years.
no point selling the estate & keeping jobs & wages the same as come next year you'd be back where you started from.
It's about time you & your Union mates admitted this is a red herring & this museums funding had/has nothing to do with wages
.
You post in the morning as if you are still asleep ... and you post at night as if you have just come back from the Horns.
.
I have made no mention of wages.
.
I have made no mention of Millbrook estate.
.
I have made no mention of wages.
.
THe Sea City Museum has cost taxpayers money .. Big time .. and your dear Cllr said it would not.
.
Even you have come on here and lied about its funding
spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.
So you were talking about wages as I was.
you lose an argument & you come up with this?
Horns Inn? haven't been in there for at least 16 years,I've not had a drop of drink since the beginning of January.
incoherent? what doesn't your left wing mind let you read the truth?
you pointed out the selling of assets did you not?
In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
so you didn't post this then?
the asset was Millbrook Trading (industrial)Estate & I was pointing out how much would have to be spent on it to attract more income.
if you can't read this take of your red coloured glasses & try again you should try looking at the real picture not just your opinion
.
So £10m has not been raised from fundraising has it.... Only from taxpayers money that we were told would not be used
if you are indeed worried about council tax then surely you can't vote Labour can you? or do you want to see your tax rise every year?
This very paper has stated that the funding of this project will come from grants & fundraising.
the money from the sell of the industrial estate was used to pay the contractors for the building work whilst the fundraising was getting into gear.
once enough funds have been collected to cover said monies this will be used elsewhere in this city.
You come on here with such a blinkered view it's unbelievable.
Unlike you I agree & disagree with projects going on in this city.
I don't agree with more office space unless there's a definite customer lined up
.
Not mentioned Council Tax.
.
Didnt mention Office Space.
.
Let me say this for the final time ( coz i am bored with your lack of knowledge ).
.
£5m grant ....
.
approx £10m taxpayers money.
.
I am typing this slowly so that you have time to understand and absorb
Cookiecutter
says...
7:05pm Wed 28 Mar 12
I don't think I have ever seen anything so ridiculously ugly and extremely tacky being added to what was a unique civic center building. It is beyond words for me. The Titanic was a unique ship which cost thousand of people to die in frigid ice water with the claim "UNSINKABLE". The current building has the same idiotic claim to any future fame. Words are failing me, but i feel discusted by the buildings shape and claim to represent that great ship and the many people who died.
loosehead
says...
9:11pm Wed 28 Mar 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
loosehead wrote:Not mentioned wages.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Lone Ranger you fall on your own words but still can't accept defeat & you & all the posters who come on here saying this was council workers wages still bang on about it.
loosehead wrote:Ummmm ........ so you havent disputed the fact that taxpayers money has been used and that only £5m has been found from a grant.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Right You came on here replying to a comment I'd made in reply to a post where it was stated wages were used
loosehead wrote:Your problem is that your posts are totally incoherent.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Well done Lone Ranger it's nice to see that you know it wasn't taken from the wages of council workers & this is just another myth!
jondave wrote:In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
Lone Ranger. wrote:No way it was paid for through fund raising? You will, naturally, have evidence to prove such a claim. We look forward to seeing it. I, on the otherhand, look forward to visiting.
loosehead wrote:There is NO WAY that £10m was raised through fundraising .. so stop this rubbish trying to convince the residents of Southampton that it was.
spudsun66 wrote:So come on union brainwashed worker how was it your wages that paid for this museum?
spudsun66 wrote:I have a free ticket for the museum from SCC as an employee, this as a pathetic apology for the cut in wages. Thanks Royston for the gesture, and could I also have Tesco vouchers, British gas vouchers, mortgage vouchers, you see where I’m coming from?!
Stillness wrote:It was....spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
It's out there for all to see £5million from grant money & the rest from fundraising.Then an extra £200,000 towards the running costs so why do you lot bleat on about your wages?
Would you have been happier if this council had said 1,500+ redundancies raise in council tax & no pay rises for two years?NO well that's what your Labour party are offering.
From what I saw on the BBC this is an interactive museum where children can operate devices so getting them interested in their history I think this is great & now the schools should get on board & book school trips to show all school children their history( cities)
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
.
Enjoy your visit ...... like me you have contributed ..
As for the selling of Millbrook Industrial estate have you been down there?
how much do you think it would cost to repair & maintain the existing structures?
don't forget if you lease out a building you are still liable for it's maintenance.
selling it brought dividends straight away & new clients have been found by the now owners.
you also must know that the savings had to be done as an amount to be carried on over four years.
no point selling the estate & keeping jobs & wages the same as come next year you'd be back where you started from.
It's about time you & your Union mates admitted this is a red herring & this museums funding had/has nothing to do with wages
.
You post in the morning as if you are still asleep ... and you post at night as if you have just come back from the Horns.
.
I have made no mention of wages.
.
I have made no mention of Millbrook estate.
.
I have made no mention of wages.
.
THe Sea City Museum has cost taxpayers money .. Big time .. and your dear Cllr said it would not.
.
Even you have come on here and lied about its funding
spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.
So you were talking about wages as I was.
you lose an argument & you come up with this?
Horns Inn? haven't been in there for at least 16 years,I've not had a drop of drink since the beginning of January.
incoherent? what doesn't your left wing mind let you read the truth?
you pointed out the selling of assets did you not?
In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
so you didn't post this then?
the asset was Millbrook Trading (industrial)Estate & I was pointing out how much would have to be spent on it to attract more income.
if you can't read this take of your red coloured glasses & try again you should try looking at the real picture not just your opinion
.
So £10m has not been raised from fundraising has it.... Only from taxpayers money that we were told would not be used
if you are indeed worried about council tax then surely you can't vote Labour can you? or do you want to see your tax rise every year?
This very paper has stated that the funding of this project will come from grants & fundraising.
the money from the sell of the industrial estate was used to pay the contractors for the building work whilst the fundraising was getting into gear.
once enough funds have been collected to cover said monies this will be used elsewhere in this city.
You come on here with such a blinkered view it's unbelievable.
Unlike you I agree & disagree with projects going on in this city.
I don't agree with more office space unless there's a definite customer lined up
.
Not mentioned Council Tax.
.
Didnt mention Office Space.
.
Let me say this for the final time ( coz i am bored with your lack of knowledge ).
.
£5m grant ....
.
approx £10m taxpayers money.
.
I am typing this slowly so that you have time to understand and absorb
you say tax payers money ?
so if this isn't council tax what money are you talking about?
So COME ON MR BORED exactly what taxpayers money?
OH! AS I'VE pointed out to you I was replying to this post
spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.
so no matter what you might say you did enter a discussion about wages so once again you'vev lied & you talk absolute rubbish & until you can come out with the truth & not your left winged blinkered views why don't you quit posting?
I mentioned office space to show you blinkered man that I don't agree with every planning decision or every thing done by the council but your so wrapped up in your little world you couldn't see that maybe you & Southy should get together & talk to each other as he might agree with you Boring left wing man
Lone Ranger.
says...
9:34am Thu 29 Mar 12
loosehead wrote:Oh dear another incoherent rant.
Lone Ranger. wrote:SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
loosehead wrote:Not mentioned wages.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Lone Ranger you fall on your own words but still can't accept defeat & you & all the posters who come on here saying this was council workers wages still bang on about it.
loosehead wrote:Ummmm ........ so you havent disputed the fact that taxpayers money has been used and that only £5m has been found from a grant.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Right You came on here replying to a comment I'd made in reply to a post where it was stated wages were used
loosehead wrote:Your problem is that your posts are totally incoherent.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Well done Lone Ranger it's nice to see that you know it wasn't taken from the wages of council workers & this is just another myth!
jondave wrote:In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
Lone Ranger. wrote:No way it was paid for through fund raising? You will, naturally, have evidence to prove such a claim. We look forward to seeing it. I, on the otherhand, look forward to visiting.
loosehead wrote:There is NO WAY that £10m was raised through fundraising .. so stop this rubbish trying to convince the residents of Southampton that it was.
spudsun66 wrote:So come on union brainwashed worker how was it your wages that paid for this museum?
spudsun66 wrote:I have a free ticket for the museum from SCC as an employee, this as a pathetic apology for the cut in wages. Thanks Royston for the gesture, and could I also have Tesco vouchers, British gas vouchers, mortgage vouchers, you see where I’m coming from?!
Stillness wrote:It was....spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
It's out there for all to see £5million from grant money & the rest from fundraising.Then an extra £200,000 towards the running costs so why do you lot bleat on about your wages?
Would you have been happier if this council had said 1,500+ redundancies raise in council tax & no pay rises for two years?NO well that's what your Labour party are offering.
From what I saw on the BBC this is an interactive museum where children can operate devices so getting them interested in their history I think this is great & now the schools should get on board & book school trips to show all school children their history( cities)
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
.
Enjoy your visit ...... like me you have contributed ..
As for the selling of Millbrook Industrial estate have you been down there?
how much do you think it would cost to repair & maintain the existing structures?
don't forget if you lease out a building you are still liable for it's maintenance.
selling it brought dividends straight away & new clients have been found by the now owners.
you also must know that the savings had to be done as an amount to be carried on over four years.
no point selling the estate & keeping jobs & wages the same as come next year you'd be back where you started from.
It's about time you & your Union mates admitted this is a red herring & this museums funding had/has nothing to do with wages
.
You post in the morning as if you are still asleep ... and you post at night as if you have just come back from the Horns.
.
I have made no mention of wages.
.
I have made no mention of Millbrook estate.
.
I have made no mention of wages.
.
THe Sea City Museum has cost taxpayers money .. Big time .. and your dear Cllr said it would not.
.
Even you have come on here and lied about its funding
spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.
So you were talking about wages as I was.
you lose an argument & you come up with this?
Horns Inn? haven't been in there for at least 16 years,I've not had a drop of drink since the beginning of January.
incoherent? what doesn't your left wing mind let you read the truth?
you pointed out the selling of assets did you not?
In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
so you didn't post this then?
the asset was Millbrook Trading (industrial)Estate & I was pointing out how much would have to be spent on it to attract more income.
if you can't read this take of your red coloured glasses & try again you should try looking at the real picture not just your opinion
.
So £10m has not been raised from fundraising has it.... Only from taxpayers money that we were told would not be used
if you are indeed worried about council tax then surely you can't vote Labour can you? or do you want to see your tax rise every year?
This very paper has stated that the funding of this project will come from grants & fundraising.
the money from the sell of the industrial estate was used to pay the contractors for the building work whilst the fundraising was getting into gear.
once enough funds have been collected to cover said monies this will be used elsewhere in this city.
You come on here with such a blinkered view it's unbelievable.
Unlike you I agree & disagree with projects going on in this city.
I don't agree with more office space unless there's a definite customer lined up
.
Not mentioned Council Tax.
.
Didnt mention Office Space.
.
Let me say this for the final time ( coz i am bored with your lack of knowledge ).
.
£5m grant ....
.
approx £10m taxpayers money.
.
I am typing this slowly so that you have time to understand and absorb
you say tax payers money ?
so if this isn't council tax what money are you talking about?
So COME ON MR BORED exactly what taxpayers money?
OH! AS I'VE pointed out to you I was replying to this post
spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.
so no matter what you might say you did enter a discussion about wages so once again you'vev lied & you talk absolute rubbish & until you can come out with the truth & not your left winged blinkered views why don't you quit posting?
I mentioned office space to show you blinkered man that I don't agree with every planning decision or every thing done by the council but your so wrapped up in your little world you couldn't see that maybe you & Southy should get together & talk to each other as he might agree with you Boring left wing man
.
£5m grant.
.
aprox £10m Taxpayers money that we were told would NOT be used.
.
Quit posting ? .......... Not while there are blue spectacled, misguided and peddlars of mistruths like you still posting.
loosehead
says...
12:07pm Thu 29 Mar 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:It was not a rant.
loosehead wrote:Oh dear another incoherent rant.
Lone Ranger. wrote:SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
loosehead wrote:Not mentioned wages.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Lone Ranger you fall on your own words but still can't accept defeat & you & all the posters who come on here saying this was council workers wages still bang on about it.
loosehead wrote:Ummmm ........ so you havent disputed the fact that taxpayers money has been used and that only £5m has been found from a grant.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Right You came on here replying to a comment I'd made in reply to a post where it was stated wages were used
loosehead wrote:Your problem is that your posts are totally incoherent.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Well done Lone Ranger it's nice to see that you know it wasn't taken from the wages of council workers & this is just another myth!
jondave wrote:In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
Lone Ranger. wrote:No way it was paid for through fund raising? You will, naturally, have evidence to prove such a claim. We look forward to seeing it. I, on the otherhand, look forward to visiting.
loosehead wrote:There is NO WAY that £10m was raised through fundraising .. so stop this rubbish trying to convince the residents of Southampton that it was.
spudsun66 wrote:So come on union brainwashed worker how was it your wages that paid for this museum?
spudsun66 wrote:I have a free ticket for the museum from SCC as an employee, this as a pathetic apology for the cut in wages. Thanks Royston for the gesture, and could I also have Tesco vouchers, British gas vouchers, mortgage vouchers, you see where I’m coming from?!
Stillness wrote:It was....spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
It's out there for all to see £5million from grant money & the rest from fundraising.Then an extra £200,000 towards the running costs so why do you lot bleat on about your wages?
Would you have been happier if this council had said 1,500+ redundancies raise in council tax & no pay rises for two years?NO well that's what your Labour party are offering.
From what I saw on the BBC this is an interactive museum where children can operate devices so getting them interested in their history I think this is great & now the schools should get on board & book school trips to show all school children their history( cities)
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
.
Enjoy your visit ...... like me you have contributed ..
As for the selling of Millbrook Industrial estate have you been down there?
how much do you think it would cost to repair & maintain the existing structures?
don't forget if you lease out a building you are still liable for it's maintenance.
selling it brought dividends straight away & new clients have been found by the now owners.
you also must know that the savings had to be done as an amount to be carried on over four years.
no point selling the estate & keeping jobs & wages the same as come next year you'd be back where you started from.
It's about time you & your Union mates admitted this is a red herring & this museums funding had/has nothing to do with wages
.
You post in the morning as if you are still asleep ... and you post at night as if you have just come back from the Horns.
.
I have made no mention of wages.
.
I have made no mention of Millbrook estate.
.
I have made no mention of wages.
.
THe Sea City Museum has cost taxpayers money .. Big time .. and your dear Cllr said it would not.
.
Even you have come on here and lied about its funding
spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.
So you were talking about wages as I was.
you lose an argument & you come up with this?
Horns Inn? haven't been in there for at least 16 years,I've not had a drop of drink since the beginning of January.
incoherent? what doesn't your left wing mind let you read the truth?
you pointed out the selling of assets did you not?
In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
so you didn't post this then?
the asset was Millbrook Trading (industrial)Estate & I was pointing out how much would have to be spent on it to attract more income.
if you can't read this take of your red coloured glasses & try again you should try looking at the real picture not just your opinion
.
So £10m has not been raised from fundraising has it.... Only from taxpayers money that we were told would not be used
if you are indeed worried about council tax then surely you can't vote Labour can you? or do you want to see your tax rise every year?
This very paper has stated that the funding of this project will come from grants & fundraising.
the money from the sell of the industrial estate was used to pay the contractors for the building work whilst the fundraising was getting into gear.
once enough funds have been collected to cover said monies this will be used elsewhere in this city.
You come on here with such a blinkered view it's unbelievable.
Unlike you I agree & disagree with projects going on in this city.
I don't agree with more office space unless there's a definite customer lined up
.
Not mentioned Council Tax.
.
Didnt mention Office Space.
.
Let me say this for the final time ( coz i am bored with your lack of knowledge ).
.
£5m grant ....
.
approx £10m taxpayers money.
.
I am typing this slowly so that you have time to understand and absorb
you say tax payers money ?
so if this isn't council tax what money are you talking about?
So COME ON MR BORED exactly what taxpayers money?
OH! AS I'VE pointed out to you I was replying to this post
spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.
so no matter what you might say you did enter a discussion about wages so once again you'vev lied & you talk absolute rubbish & until you can come out with the truth & not your left winged blinkered views why don't you quit posting?
I mentioned office space to show you blinkered man that I don't agree with every planning decision or every thing done by the council but your so wrapped up in your little world you couldn't see that maybe you & Southy should get together & talk to each other as he might agree with you Boring left wing man
.
£5m grant.
.
aprox £10m Taxpayers money that we were told would NOT be used.
.
Quit posting ? .......... Not while there are blue spectacled, misguided and peddlars of mistruths like you still posting.
why not try saying exactly where you believe this £10million came from?
You say tax payers yet not council tax so where did this tax payers money come from?
Are you suggesting wages?
If all you can do is come out with quotes like incoherent & rant then you have no real answer you know your argument is flawed but you keep saying it hoping some fool will believe you.
Your lower in my estimates & tell far more lies than Southy
Lone Ranger.
says...
12:32pm Thu 29 Mar 12
loosehead wrote:Ok lets try this another way.
Lone Ranger. wrote:It was not a rant.
loosehead wrote:Oh dear another incoherent rant.
Lone Ranger. wrote:SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
loosehead wrote:Not mentioned wages.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Lone Ranger you fall on your own words but still can't accept defeat & you & all the posters who come on here saying this was council workers wages still bang on about it.
loosehead wrote:Ummmm ........ so you havent disputed the fact that taxpayers money has been used and that only £5m has been found from a grant.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Right You came on here replying to a comment I'd made in reply to a post where it was stated wages were used
loosehead wrote:Your problem is that your posts are totally incoherent.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Well done Lone Ranger it's nice to see that you know it wasn't taken from the wages of council workers & this is just another myth!
jondave wrote:In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
Lone Ranger. wrote:No way it was paid for through fund raising? You will, naturally, have evidence to prove such a claim. We look forward to seeing it. I, on the otherhand, look forward to visiting.
loosehead wrote:There is NO WAY that £10m was raised through fundraising .. so stop this rubbish trying to convince the residents of Southampton that it was.
spudsun66 wrote:So come on union brainwashed worker how was it your wages that paid for this museum?
spudsun66 wrote:I have a free ticket for the museum from SCC as an employee, this as a pathetic apology for the cut in wages. Thanks Royston for the gesture, and could I also have Tesco vouchers, British gas vouchers, mortgage vouchers, you see where I’m coming from?!
Stillness wrote:It was....spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
It's out there for all to see £5million from grant money & the rest from fundraising.Then an extra £200,000 towards the running costs so why do you lot bleat on about your wages?
Would you have been happier if this council had said 1,500+ redundancies raise in council tax & no pay rises for two years?NO well that's what your Labour party are offering.
From what I saw on the BBC this is an interactive museum where children can operate devices so getting them interested in their history I think this is great & now the schools should get on board & book school trips to show all school children their history( cities)
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
.
Enjoy your visit ...... like me you have contributed ..
As for the selling of Millbrook Industrial estate have you been down there?
how much do you think it would cost to repair & maintain the existing structures?
don't forget if you lease out a building you are still liable for it's maintenance.
selling it brought dividends straight away & new clients have been found by the now owners.
you also must know that the savings had to be done as an amount to be carried on over four years.
no point selling the estate & keeping jobs & wages the same as come next year you'd be back where you started from.
It's about time you & your Union mates admitted this is a red herring & this museums funding had/has nothing to do with wages
.
You post in the morning as if you are still asleep ... and you post at night as if you have just come back from the Horns.
.
I have made no mention of wages.
.
I have made no mention of Millbrook estate.
.
I have made no mention of wages.
.
THe Sea City Museum has cost taxpayers money .. Big time .. and your dear Cllr said it would not.
.
Even you have come on here and lied about its funding
spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.
So you were talking about wages as I was.
you lose an argument & you come up with this?
Horns Inn? haven't been in there for at least 16 years,I've not had a drop of drink since the beginning of January.
incoherent? what doesn't your left wing mind let you read the truth?
you pointed out the selling of assets did you not?
In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
so you didn't post this then?
the asset was Millbrook Trading (industrial)Estate & I was pointing out how much would have to be spent on it to attract more income.
if you can't read this take of your red coloured glasses & try again you should try looking at the real picture not just your opinion
.
So £10m has not been raised from fundraising has it.... Only from taxpayers money that we were told would not be used
if you are indeed worried about council tax then surely you can't vote Labour can you? or do you want to see your tax rise every year?
This very paper has stated that the funding of this project will come from grants & fundraising.
the money from the sell of the industrial estate was used to pay the contractors for the building work whilst the fundraising was getting into gear.
once enough funds have been collected to cover said monies this will be used elsewhere in this city.
You come on here with such a blinkered view it's unbelievable.
Unlike you I agree & disagree with projects going on in this city.
I don't agree with more office space unless there's a definite customer lined up
.
Not mentioned Council Tax.
.
Didnt mention Office Space.
.
Let me say this for the final time ( coz i am bored with your lack of knowledge ).
.
£5m grant ....
.
approx £10m taxpayers money.
.
I am typing this slowly so that you have time to understand and absorb
you say tax payers money ?
so if this isn't council tax what money are you talking about?
So COME ON MR BORED exactly what taxpayers money?
OH! AS I'VE pointed out to you I was replying to this post
spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.
so no matter what you might say you did enter a discussion about wages so once again you'vev lied & you talk absolute rubbish & until you can come out with the truth & not your left winged blinkered views why don't you quit posting?
I mentioned office space to show you blinkered man that I don't agree with every planning decision or every thing done by the council but your so wrapped up in your little world you couldn't see that maybe you & Southy should get together & talk to each other as he might agree with you Boring left wing man
.
£5m grant.
.
aprox £10m Taxpayers money that we were told would NOT be used.
.
Quit posting ? .......... Not while there are blue spectacled, misguided and peddlars of mistruths like you still posting.
why not try saying exactly where you believe this £10million came from?
You say tax payers yet not council tax so where did this tax payers money come from?
Are you suggesting wages?
If all you can do is come out with quotes like incoherent & rant then you have no real answer you know your argument is flawed but you keep saying it hoping some fool will believe you.
Your lower in my estimates & tell far more lies than Southy
.
Yes i am a liar according to you only.
.
So ...... where have SCC got the £10m from.
.
But PLEASE DONT tell me its fundraising ..... Give me FACTS
loosehead
says...
3:24pm Thu 29 Mar 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:As you pointed out they sold an industrial site to cover the cost of the build. once the fund raising meets that amount £10million this money will be used on other projects in the city.
loosehead wrote:Ok lets try this another way.
Lone Ranger. wrote:It was not a rant.
loosehead wrote:Oh dear another incoherent rant.
Lone Ranger. wrote:SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
loosehead wrote:Not mentioned wages.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Lone Ranger you fall on your own words but still can't accept defeat & you & all the posters who come on here saying this was council workers wages still bang on about it.
loosehead wrote:Ummmm ........ so you havent disputed the fact that taxpayers money has been used and that only £5m has been found from a grant.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Right You came on here replying to a comment I'd made in reply to a post where it was stated wages were used
loosehead wrote:Your problem is that your posts are totally incoherent.
Lone Ranger. wrote:Well done Lone Ranger it's nice to see that you know it wasn't taken from the wages of council workers & this is just another myth!
jondave wrote:In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
Lone Ranger. wrote:No way it was paid for through fund raising? You will, naturally, have evidence to prove such a claim. We look forward to seeing it. I, on the otherhand, look forward to visiting.
loosehead wrote:There is NO WAY that £10m was raised through fundraising .. so stop this rubbish trying to convince the residents of Southampton that it was.
spudsun66 wrote:So come on union brainwashed worker how was it your wages that paid for this museum?
spudsun66 wrote:I have a free ticket for the museum from SCC as an employee, this as a pathetic apology for the cut in wages. Thanks Royston for the gesture, and could I also have Tesco vouchers, British gas vouchers, mortgage vouchers, you see where I’m coming from?!
Stillness wrote:It was....spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.I take it that "i sea" was a play on words. I hope it was lol.
It's out there for all to see £5million from grant money & the rest from fundraising.Then an extra £200,000 towards the running costs so why do you lot bleat on about your wages?
Would you have been happier if this council had said 1,500+ redundancies raise in council tax & no pay rises for two years?NO well that's what your Labour party are offering.
From what I saw on the BBC this is an interactive museum where children can operate devices so getting them interested in their history I think this is great & now the schools should get on board & book school trips to show all school children their history( cities)
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
.
Enjoy your visit ...... like me you have contributed ..
As for the selling of Millbrook Industrial estate have you been down there?
how much do you think it would cost to repair & maintain the existing structures?
don't forget if you lease out a building you are still liable for it's maintenance.
selling it brought dividends straight away & new clients have been found by the now owners.
you also must know that the savings had to be done as an amount to be carried on over four years.
no point selling the estate & keeping jobs & wages the same as come next year you'd be back where you started from.
It's about time you & your Union mates admitted this is a red herring & this museums funding had/has nothing to do with wages
.
You post in the morning as if you are still asleep ... and you post at night as if you have just come back from the Horns.
.
I have made no mention of wages.
.
I have made no mention of Millbrook estate.
.
I have made no mention of wages.
.
THe Sea City Museum has cost taxpayers money .. Big time .. and your dear Cllr said it would not.
.
Even you have come on here and lied about its funding
spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.
So you were talking about wages as I was.
you lose an argument & you come up with this?
Horns Inn? haven't been in there for at least 16 years,I've not had a drop of drink since the beginning of January.
incoherent? what doesn't your left wing mind let you read the truth?
you pointed out the selling of assets did you not?
In relation to selling off property and land owned by SCC ( Us you and me ) the following was posted on 6th Dec 2011.. ....................
....... .......
Quote:- Tory council chiefs plan to use the proceeds to fill budget holes in projects such as the proposed city arts complex and the £15m Titanic themed Sea City attraction.
so you didn't post this then?
the asset was Millbrook Trading (industrial)Estate & I was pointing out how much would have to be spent on it to attract more income.
if you can't read this take of your red coloured glasses & try again you should try looking at the real picture not just your opinion
.
So £10m has not been raised from fundraising has it.... Only from taxpayers money that we were told would not be used
if you are indeed worried about council tax then surely you can't vote Labour can you? or do you want to see your tax rise every year?
This very paper has stated that the funding of this project will come from grants & fundraising.
the money from the sell of the industrial estate was used to pay the contractors for the building work whilst the fundraising was getting into gear.
once enough funds have been collected to cover said monies this will be used elsewhere in this city.
You come on here with such a blinkered view it's unbelievable.
Unlike you I agree & disagree with projects going on in this city.
I don't agree with more office space unless there's a definite customer lined up
.
Not mentioned Council Tax.
.
Didnt mention Office Space.
.
Let me say this for the final time ( coz i am bored with your lack of knowledge ).
.
£5m grant ....
.
approx £10m taxpayers money.
.
I am typing this slowly so that you have time to understand and absorb
you say tax payers money ?
so if this isn't council tax what money are you talking about?
So COME ON MR BORED exactly what taxpayers money?
OH! AS I'VE pointed out to you I was replying to this post
spudsun66 wrote: Thats where my wages went, i sea! Thanks SCC.
so no matter what you might say you did enter a discussion about wages so once again you'vev lied & you talk absolute rubbish & until you can come out with the truth & not your left winged blinkered views why don't you quit posting?
I mentioned office space to show you blinkered man that I don't agree with every planning decision or every thing done by the council but your so wrapped up in your little world you couldn't see that maybe you & Southy should get together & talk to each other as he might agree with you Boring left wing man
.
£5m grant.
.
aprox £10m Taxpayers money that we were told would NOT be used.
.
Quit posting ? .......... Not while there are blue spectacled, misguided and peddlars of mistruths like you still posting.
why not try saying exactly where you believe this £10million came from?
You say tax payers yet not council tax so where did this tax payers money come from?
Are you suggesting wages?
If all you can do is come out with quotes like incoherent & rant then you have no real answer you know your argument is flawed but you keep saying it hoping some fool will believe you.
Your lower in my estimates & tell far more lies than Southy
.
Yes i am a liar according to you only.
.
So ...... where have SCC got the £10m from.
.
But PLEASE DONT tell me its fundraising ..... Give me FACTS
If I remember correctly the actually amount needed from the sell of that estate was £5million to pay for a loan to cover the build wasn't it?
Now I've given you an answer why not answering a question instead of asking a question?
Stillness says...
8:09am Tue 27 Mar 12