Police ask petrol stations to shut (From Daily Echo)

southy says...
1:04pm Thu 29 Mar 12

what idoits, mind you this panic was cause by the government. A date not even been set yet to start the strike on, unions are still in talks and while there is talks going on there be no strike not till talks have ended. maybe its some thing Royston should of done

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db_3 says...
1:09pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Seems like a daft response from the police. Some people may be running on empty and urgently need fuel. Wouldn't it be better to tell petrol stations to advertise a minimum charge for fuel purchase e.g. You have to pay a minimum £40 to fill up a car during peak periods.

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a and e says...
1:12pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Get ready folks , world war is coming, the strike is a exscuse by the government to stockpile fuel.

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TEBOURBA says...
1:14pm Thu 29 Mar 12

People are only doing what this pathetic Government advised them to do, fill up their petrol cans and store the potential time bomb in their garage, garden shed or flat -- much to the concern and disgust of the Fire Brigade
Why did this excuse for a Government do it ? ---simply to provoke public opinion against the tanker drivers, who have a legitimate right to seek better conditions and withdraw their labour if necessary.
The idea that the armed services can efficiently take over the delivery of fuel, other than to essential users such as hospitals,schools etc. is a Cameron pipe dream.

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Just another reader says...
1:15pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Well done police, instead of managing the situation you've merely inflamed it making people even more desperate to get hold of fuel! Utterly ridiculous.

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ohmywell says...
1:28pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Sack Cameron and the Tories
a Bl**dy disgrace. Almost as much disruption as the riots last year the Government and ALL parties should be removed immediately. Great advice Cameron you MORON!!!!!!

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bigfella777 says...
1:33pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Just another reader wrote:
Well done police, instead of managing the situation you've merely inflamed it making people even more desperate to get hold of fuel! Utterly ridiculous.

Exactly,because shutting the garages wont make people panic more at all will it.
I garages were like they used to be (ie) just sold fuel you wouldnt have all this grief, why is it ok to fill up and then do your weekly shop while your cars sat on the pump.
Bring back proper service where a somebody fills your car up then takes your cash at the pump.

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forest tony says...
1:33pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Surprised that this inane government hasn't advised us yet to stock up on bread, milk and other groceries, they are definitely daft enough to. Definitely got the most brain dead government ever in all the 55 years I have lived, time the lot resigned!

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solents says...
1:37pm Thu 29 Mar 12

It is just me. . .or has the price of fuel suddenly gone up now that we all want it. . .When I last bought diesel last week it was around £1.42 a litre - today I had to pay £1.48. I've heard other garages charging £1.52 ! !

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bigfella777 says...
1:39pm Thu 29 Mar 12

solents wrote:
It is just me. . .or has the price of fuel suddenly gone up now that we all want it. . .When I last bought diesel last week it was around £1.42 a litre - today I had to pay £1.48. I've heard other garages charging £1.52 ! !

You didnt have to pay it, you could always use your legs or get a bike.

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fordington says...
1:53pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Great idea bigfella777.
Any idea how long it will take me to walk to Thetford?

Cameron and Maud - you couldn't make the nonsense up! Jerry cans: good thinking. I've got space for a couple of cans in the loft.

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George4th says...
1:54pm Thu 29 Mar 12

forest tony wrote:
Surprised that this inane government hasn't advised us yet to stock up on bread, milk and other groceries, they are definitely daft enough to. Definitely got the most brain dead government ever in all the 55 years I have lived, time the lot resigned!

"Definitely got the most brain dead government ever"

Without fear of contradiction that will most definitely go down in history as the government between 1997 and 2010. How to destroy an economy in double quick time! Our demise is totally down to Labour - they have ruined the future for generations to come.

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mellowdude says...
1:55pm Thu 29 Mar 12

I had to fill up my car yesterday evening, as I only had 1/8 of my tank left. I decided on using my local Tesco in Shirley.

Yet as I joined what started as a small queue, the Tesco employees started closing pumps as the fuel ran out at each pump. Each time they closed a lane, they just went back into the pay area and sat back down.

When I left the station, only what looked like 5 out of 12 pumps had any unleaded or diesel left. The queue was getting longer, and was almost onto the main road (about 20 car lengths away).

Why didn't the employees do something then? Cars were joining at the back that would probably never get any fuel, and these in turn were actually blocking shoppers from entering the car park.

The cars towards the back of the queue must have been scared that they were never going to get any fuel, and the honking of horns started as I left because people were cutting in by using another lane dedicated to entering the car park.

Why didnt the employees do something then? Could the manager not have made the decision to inform people the fuel was almost gone so they probably wouldnt get any, thus allowing shoppers to enter the car park.

I know you may say this would have caused panic, but I would prefer to be informed that I may not get any petrol so I could find fuel elsewhere. And surely the police telling stations in dorset to close has caused even more panic?

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bigfella777 says...
1:56pm Thu 29 Mar 12

fordington wrote:
Great idea bigfella777.
Any idea how long it will take me to walk to Thetford?

Cameron and Maud - you couldn't make the nonsense up! Jerry cans: good thinking. I've got space for a couple of cans in the loft.

Get a train

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Lone Ranger. says...
1:57pm Thu 29 Mar 12

What a pathetic government this is.
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Its difficult to believe that the people of this country can allow the brainless Slippery Dave and his possee of no hopers to run this country.
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As regards the comments from Frances Maude ... the minister should be sacked along with the rest of the cronies.
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The Salv says...
1:57pm Thu 29 Mar 12

ohmywell wrote:
Sack Cameron and the Tories a Bl**dy disgrace. Almost as much disruption as the riots last year the Government and ALL parties should be removed immediately. Great advice Cameron you MORON!!!!!!

Calm down dear
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The Police only "asked" they actually have no right to force shut. If people want to buy fuel you cant stop them. How is the Governments fault? It's the Unions that are threatening action left right and center if it isnt the Sea City Museum it's the Olympics, or the fuel. It's cowardness and taking advantage. What next lets try and ruin the Queens Jubilee celebrations. If the Unions want us to go straight back into a recession and have people lose their jobs and livelyhoods then their going the right way about it.

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BillyTheKid says...
2:02pm Thu 29 Mar 12

It has become human nature to be stupid, and to believe stupid things. And the media depend on that to create havoc so that they can blame somebody, or encourage the public to blame someone. Nothing like a big old "stir up". Remember SARS, bird 'flu, drought warnings, climate change, the collapse of the banking system, and countless other supposed "imminent catastrophes"? If the frenzied media reports at the time were accurate, we should all be ruined or dead now.

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Lone Ranger. says...
2:06pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Pies, Pensioners, Pasties, Petrol, Planning and Parties at Slippery Dave's flat
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Been quite a week for Slippery Dave and Useless George.
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More carnage, confusion, cheating done in two weeks that in the last twenty years.
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PLEASE dont vote for this joke outfit again either nationally or locally

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Stillness says...
2:09pm Thu 29 Mar 12

I,m so glad that I kept the old oil tank when I changed to a gas boiler last year. Roll up, roll up only £5.00 a litre :-)

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Brite Spark says...
2:17pm Thu 29 Mar 12

mellowdude wrote:
I had to fill up my car yesterday evening, as I only had 1/8 of my tank left. I decided on using my local Tesco in Shirley.

Yet as I joined what started as a small queue, the Tesco employees started closing pumps as the fuel ran out at each pump. Each time they closed a lane, they just went back into the pay area and sat back down.

When I left the station, only what looked like 5 out of 12 pumps had any unleaded or diesel left. The queue was getting longer, and was almost onto the main road (about 20 car lengths away).

Why didn't the employees do something then? Cars were joining at the back that would probably never get any fuel, and these in turn were actually blocking shoppers from entering the car park.

The cars towards the back of the queue must have been scared that they were never going to get any fuel, and the honking of horns started as I left because people were cutting in by using another lane dedicated to entering the car park.

Why didnt the employees do something then? Could the manager not have made the decision to inform people the fuel was almost gone so they probably wouldnt get any, thus allowing shoppers to enter the car park.

I know you may say this would have caused panic, but I would prefer to be informed that I may not get any petrol so I could find fuel elsewhere. And surely the police telling stations in dorset to close has caused even more panic?

Similar to this story, every Shell garage counter assistant asks the customers at least four questions (Do you have a bonus card? Do you want a receipt? Do you want a VAT receipt, and most infuriatingly, Do you want 2 x sweets for a pound?) It does my head in at the best of times, but when they can see queues forming why don't they use some common sense and get the customers through as quickly as possible? The Shell petrol station at Titchfield/Park Gate is right on the roundabout of the A27, there are queues forming there most days because there is usually just one person serving, and asking these inane questions. You can imagine the queues going actually onto the roundabout now because the staff are to scared to use some common dog and cease asking about 2 x sweets for a pound! They are afraid that someone will be checing on them, that they ask this drivel (akin to Asda staff saying 'sorry to keep you waiting' when they haven't kept you waiting at all). How long before there is an accident outside a Shell petrol station I wonder. Even when I say to them 'No sweets and no receipts, just petrol please', they reply 'we have to ask it's in our contract'. Shell will have blood on their hands before long. Idiots.

[quote][p][bold]mellowdude[/bold] wrote: I had to fill up my car yesterday evening, as I only had 1/8 of my tank left. I decided on using my local Tesco in Shirley. Yet as I joined what started as a small queue, the Tesco employees started closing pumps as the fuel ran out at each pump. Each time they closed a lane, they just went back into the pay area and sat back down. When I left the station, only what looked like 5 out of 12 pumps had any unleaded or diesel left. The queue was getting longer, and was almost onto the main road (about 20 car lengths away). Why didn't the employees do something then? Cars were joining at the back that would probably never get any fuel, and these in turn were actually blocking shoppers from entering the car park. The cars towards the back of the queue must have been scared that they were never going to get any fuel, and the honking of horns started as I left because people were cutting in by using another lane dedicated to entering the car park. Why didnt the employees do something then? Could the manager not have made the decision to inform people the fuel was almost gone so they probably wouldnt get any, thus allowing shoppers to enter the car park. I know you may say this would have caused panic, but I would prefer to be informed that I may not get any petrol so I could find fuel elsewhere. And surely the police telling stations in dorset to close has caused even more panic?[/p][/quote]Similar to this story, every Shell garage counter assistant asks the customers at least four questions (Do you have a bonus card? Do you want a receipt? Do you want a VAT receipt, and most infuriatingly, Do you want 2 x sweets for a pound?) It does my head in at the best of times, but when they can see queues forming why don't they use some common sense and get the customers through as quickly as possible? The Shell petrol station at Titchfield/Park Gate is right on the roundabout of the A27, there are queues forming there most days because there is usually just one person serving, and asking these inane questions. You can imagine the queues going actually onto the roundabout now because the staff are to scared to use some common dog and cease asking about 2 x sweets for a pound! They are afraid that someone will be checing on them, that they ask this drivel (akin to Asda staff saying 'sorry to keep you waiting' when they haven't kept you waiting at all). How long before there is an accident outside a Shell petrol station I wonder. Even when I say to them 'No sweets and no receipts, just petrol please', they reply 'we have to ask it's in our contract'. Shell will have blood on their hands before long. Idiots. Brite Spark

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moulefanggoule says...
2:31pm Thu 29 Mar 12

When I did my monthly fill up this morning after payday (£92 worth) I was only 3rd in a queue by my respective pump. this was at 6.45. By the time the giant land rover had filled and the women in front of me (who only put in £4.78!!) had done her bit the queue was out of the station and about 200 yards down the road! Basically all the 7 o'clockers who have a 'routine' but couldn't be bothered to get up 10 mins earlier to beat the rush hour panic. People looked soo angry! Like other posters here out of the 12 pumps there were only 6 being used. Not sure why because there were no restrictions. In the end a member of the public was waving people and urging them to use the vacant pumps. Talk about bloomin sheep! All of a sudden all the pumps were being used! It was hillarious just how DUMB people are. All the old boys with their 10 year old honda civics filling up for no reason and then no doubt going home for a few hours before deciding to go and use the post office and banks bewteen 12-2. The UK is a funny place when you look at it.
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For all those judging the government just remember how bad the last fuel problem was which was a completely different government (the red clowns). They did little or nothing to help the average motorist and over the years hiked up fuel prices way beyond what is neccesary.

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southy says...
2:32pm Thu 29 Mar 12

George4th wrote:

forest tony wrote:
Surprised that this inane government hasn't advised us yet to stock up on bread, milk and other groceries, they are definitely daft enough to. Definitely got the most brain dead government ever in all the 55 years I have lived, time the lot resigned!
"Definitely got the most brain dead government ever"

Without fear of contradiction that will most definitely go down in history as the government between 1997 and 2010. How to destroy an economy in double quick time! Our demise is totally down to Labour - they have ruined the future for generations to come.

That title has all ready gone to Thatcher government of the 80's

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Frank28 says...
2:34pm Thu 29 Mar 12

I wonder if the Minister who caused all this chaos owns shares in oil companies? Panic-buying will bring in millions to the Exchequer.

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Shoong says...
2:34pm Thu 29 Mar 12

southy wrote:

George4th wrote:

forest tony wrote:
Surprised that this inane government hasn't advised us yet to stock up on bread, milk and other groceries, they are definitely daft enough to. Definitely got the most brain dead government ever in all the 55 years I have lived, time the lot resigned!
"Definitely got the most brain dead government ever"

Without fear of contradiction that will most definitely go down in history as the government between 1997 and 2010. How to destroy an economy in double quick time! Our demise is totally down to Labour - they have ruined the future for generations to come.
That title has all ready gone to Thatcher government of the 80's

That was 20 years ago, still living in the bitter & twisted past then.

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Shoong says...
2:39pm Thu 29 Mar 12

No-one has come out with any credit here.

The Prime Minister made a mistake in advising people to top-up.

Unite has once again threatened to hold the country to ransom - but no surprise there, that's what they do for a 'living'. Cowards.

But the biggest mongs are those panic buying at the pumps - it makes a bad situation even worse. If only they had the grey cells to just think about it, ignore the Prime Minister's comment for the folly it was & the ransom demand from Unite, this could have been prevented.

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westendsaint says...
2:42pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Frank28 wrote:
I wonder if the Minister who caused all this chaos owns shares in oil companies? Panic-buying will bring in millions to the Exchequer.

Panic buying WONT bring in millions to the government.
Next week, hardly anyone will need to buy fuel ( except heavy users like myself, who uses a van around town everyday )
UNLESS those who have panic bought fuel, feel the need to drive around in circles to use it up.

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Linesman says...
2:46pm Thu 29 Mar 12

George4th wrote:

forest tony wrote:
Surprised that this inane government hasn't advised us yet to stock up on bread, milk and other groceries, they are definitely daft enough to. Definitely got the most brain dead government ever in all the 55 years I have lived, time the lot resigned!
"Definitely got the most brain dead government ever"

Without fear of contradiction that will most definitely go down in history as the government between 1997 and 2010. How to destroy an economy in double quick time! Our demise is totally down to Labour - they have ruined the future for generations to come.

Obviously another blinkered Tory who just cannot face up to the fact that the current administration is both corrupt and incompetent.

Of course, by causing this scare, combining it with a hike in fuel prices, our beloved government are raking in more cash because of the excessing tax on it.

I can only assume that it is part of the government's plan, to boost the building industry, by suggesting that we all have a jerry can of petrol stored in the garage. This would be bound to cause a couple of fires, that could be dealt with by a reduced-strength fire service, and leave a nice site for demolition and a chance for builders to move in.

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BillyTheKid says...
2:47pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Supposing sewage farmers threatened to go on strike. Would long queues form outside of toilets everywhere as the public indulged in "panic pooing" ?

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mellowdude says...
2:49pm Thu 29 Mar 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
Supposing sewage farmers threatened to go on strike. Would long queues form outside of toilets everywhere as the public indulged in "panic pooing" ?

Legend - wait for it - dary!

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westendsaint says...
2:58pm Thu 29 Mar 12

BillyTheKid wrote:
Supposing sewage farmers threatened to go on strike. Would long queues form outside of toilets everywhere as the public indulged in "panic pooing" ?

Billy now you're talking CR*P.
LOL

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Stdenysta says...
3:09pm Thu 29 Mar 12

George4th wrote:

forest tony wrote: Surprised that this inane government hasn't advised us yet to stock up on bread, milk and other groceries, they are definitely daft enough to. Definitely got the most brain dead government ever in all the 55 years I have lived, time the lot resigned!
"Definitely got the most brain dead government ever" Without fear of contradiction that will most definitely go down in history as the government between 1997 and 2010. How to destroy an economy in double quick time! Our demise is totally down to Labour - they have ruined the future for generations to come.

"Without fear of contradiction..." George, you are either (a) fortunate enough to be too young to remember. (b) So old that senility has caught up with you. Or (c) A typically arrogant "I'm alright, **** you lot, Tory. But in 1979 a rancid old cow called margaret came to power. She and her cronies ripped the heart and soul out of this wonderful country, scarred it forever selling off whatever she could lay her grubby mits on to her even grubbier cohorts, whether she owned it, or not.
We are in the situation we are now because of the mass greed caused by privatisations world wide, not the prudent economics of one of the best chancellors this country has ever seen.
Now we have son of T******r, and they are it again.
Do not let them sell OUR NHS.
By the way, I reckon its probably answer (c), maybe the Echo could run a poll.

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freefinker says...
3:11pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

George4th wrote:

forest tony wrote:
Surprised that this inane government hasn't advised us yet to stock up on bread, milk and other groceries, they are definitely daft enough to. Definitely got the most brain dead government ever in all the 55 years I have lived, time the lot resigned!
"Definitely got the most brain dead government ever"

Without fear of contradiction that will most definitely go down in history as the government between 1997 and 2010. How to destroy an economy in double quick time! Our demise is totally down to Labour - they have ruined the future for generations to come.
That title has all ready gone to Thatcher government of the 80's
That was 20 years ago, still living in the bitter & twisted past then.

.. er? More like 30 years ago.

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Shoong says...
3:15pm Thu 29 Mar 12

freefinker wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

George4th wrote:

forest tony wrote:
Surprised that this inane government hasn't advised us yet to stock up on bread, milk and other groceries, they are definitely daft enough to. Definitely got the most brain dead government ever in all the 55 years I have lived, time the lot resigned!
"Definitely got the most brain dead government ever"

Without fear of contradiction that will most definitely go down in history as the government between 1997 and 2010. How to destroy an economy in double quick time! Our demise is totally down to Labour - they have ruined the future for generations to come.
That title has all ready gone to Thatcher government of the 80's
That was 20 years ago, still living in the bitter & twisted past then.
.. er? More like 30 years ago.

Whatever ;)

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George4th says...
3:17pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Red Len McCluskey is the man to blame. This VERY Left Wing ex Liverpool Docker heads up Unite. His hero is Arthur Scargill. You can work it out from there!!!
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Strange how Ed Milliband hasn't said a word about the dispute but lots about Pasties!!!!!!!!!

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Shoong says...
3:18pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Stdenysta wrote:

George4th wrote:

forest tony wrote: Surprised that this inane government hasn't advised us yet to stock up on bread, milk and other groceries, they are definitely daft enough to. Definitely got the most brain dead government ever in all the 55 years I have lived, time the lot resigned!
"Definitely got the most brain dead government ever" Without fear of contradiction that will most definitely go down in history as the government between 1997 and 2010. How to destroy an economy in double quick time! Our demise is totally down to Labour - they have ruined the future for generations to come.
"Without fear of contradiction..." George, you are either (a) fortunate enough to be too young to remember. (b) So old that senility has caught up with you. Or (c) A typically arrogant "I'm alright, **** you lot, Tory. But in 1979 a rancid old cow called margaret came to power. She and her cronies ripped the heart and soul out of this wonderful country, scarred it forever selling off whatever she could lay her grubby mits on to her even grubbier cohorts, whether she owned it, or not.
We are in the situation we are now because of the mass greed caused by privatisations world wide, not the prudent economics of one of the best chancellors this country has ever seen.
Now we have son of T******r, and they are it again.
Do not let them sell OUR NHS.
By the way, I reckon its probably answer (c), maybe the Echo could run a poll.

'prudent economics of one of the best chancellors this country has ever seen'

Do you mean Brown or Darling?

Getting the April Fools in early are we..?

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Shoong says...
3:19pm Thu 29 Mar 12

George4th wrote:
Red Len McCluskey is the man to blame. This VERY Left Wing ex Liverpool Docker heads up Unite. His hero is Arthur Scargill. You can work it out from there!!!
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Strange how Ed Milliband hasn't said a word about the dispute but lots about Pasties!!!!!!!!!

It's like an old friend who you are too embarrassed to be associated with because they've gone off the rails isn't it?

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Stdenysta says...
3:25pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Shoong wrote:

George4th wrote: Red Len McCluskey is the man to blame. This VERY Left Wing ex Liverpool Docker heads up Unite. His hero is Arthur Scargill. You can work it out from there!!! > Strange how Ed Milliband hasn't said a word about the dispute but lots about Pasties!!!!!!!!!
It's like an old friend who you are too embarrassed to be associated with because they've gone off the rails isn't it?

We've all gone off the rails since they were privatised, Can't afford them any more.

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George4th says...
3:29pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Stdenysta wrote:

George4th wrote:

forest tony wrote: Surprised that this inane government hasn't advised us yet to stock up on bread, milk and other groceries, they are definitely daft enough to. Definitely got the most brain dead government ever in all the 55 years I have lived, time the lot resigned!
"Definitely got the most brain dead government ever" Without fear of contradiction that will most definitely go down in history as the government between 1997 and 2010. How to destroy an economy in double quick time! Our demise is totally down to Labour - they have ruined the future for generations to come.
"Without fear of contradiction..." George, you are either (a) fortunate enough to be too young to remember. (b) So old that senility has caught up with you. Or (c) A typically arrogant "I'm alright, **** you lot, Tory. But in 1979 a rancid old cow called margaret came to power. She and her cronies ripped the heart and soul out of this wonderful country, scarred it forever selling off whatever she could lay her grubby mits on to her even grubbier cohorts, whether she owned it, or not.
We are in the situation we are now because of the mass greed caused by privatisations world wide, not the prudent economics of one of the best chancellors this country has ever seen.
Now we have son of T******r, and they are it again.
Do not let them sell OUR NHS.
By the way, I reckon its probably answer (c), maybe the Echo could run a poll.

You sound like you are about to explode............
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When Thatcher came to power, this country was Bankrupt (overseen by the IMF), our big Industries were totally uncompetitive after years of Union control and disputes that prevented modernisation. We were a THIRD WORLD country. The new government took steps to re-invent our country and reverse the economic decline - that was achieved!
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I'm simply a realist - a good economy benefits EVERYONE.
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NHS - Reality is that in its present form it is/was unsustainable. It requires radical reform, especially within the NHS administration itself. Labour made the NHS use the private sector more and the coalition is doing the same. I am a total believer in the NHS but I'm not daft enough to believe that it was sustainable in its previous form.

[quote][p][bold]Stdenysta[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest tony[/bold] wrote: Surprised that this inane government hasn't advised us yet to stock up on bread, milk and other groceries, they are definitely daft enough to. Definitely got the most brain dead government ever in all the 55 years I have lived, time the lot resigned![/p][/quote]"Definitely got the most brain dead government ever" Without fear of contradiction that will most definitely go down in history as the government between 1997 and 2010. How to destroy an economy in double quick time! Our demise is totally down to Labour - they have ruined the future for generations to come.[/p][/quote]"Without fear of contradiction..." George, you are either (a) fortunate enough to be too young to remember. (b) So old that senility has caught up with you. Or (c) A typically arrogant "I'm alright, **** you lot, Tory. But in 1979 a rancid old cow called margaret came to power. She and her cronies ripped the heart and soul out of this wonderful country, scarred it forever selling off whatever she could lay her grubby mits on to her even grubbier cohorts, whether she owned it, or not. We are in the situation we are now because of the mass greed caused by privatisations world wide, not the prudent economics of one of the best chancellors this country has ever seen. Now we have son of T******r, and they are it again. Do not let them sell OUR NHS. By the way, I reckon its probably answer (c), maybe the Echo could run a poll.[/p][/quote]You sound like you are about to explode............ > When Thatcher came to power, this country was Bankrupt (overseen by the IMF), our big Industries were totally uncompetitive after years of Union control and disputes that prevented modernisation. We were a THIRD WORLD country. The new government took steps to re-invent our country and reverse the economic decline - that was achieved! > I'm simply a realist - a good economy benefits EVERYONE. > NHS - Reality is that in its present form it is/was unsustainable. It requires radical reform, especially within the NHS administration itself. Labour made the NHS use the private sector more and the coalition is doing the same. I am a total believer in the NHS but I'm not daft enough to believe that it was sustainable in its previous form. George4th

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Pixiienot says...
3:39pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Who caused the panic DAVID CAMERON!

By law there must be 7 days notice of a strike date.. I dont buy into this stupidity.

British love to panic.

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Stdenysta says...
3:39pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Shoong wrote:

George4th wrote: Red Len McCluskey is the man to blame. This VERY Left Wing ex Liverpool Docker heads up Unite. His hero is Arthur Scargill. You can work it out from there!!! > Strange how Ed Milliband hasn't said a word about the dispute but lots about Pasties!!!!!!!!!
It's like an old friend who you are too embarrassed to be associated with because they've gone off the rails isn't it?

Only someone arrogant enough to only care about themselves, (answer (c), see above) would be too embarrassed to associate with an old friend who has gone off the rails. Anyone with any compassion would try and help them, Surely?

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BillyTheKid says...
3:45pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Continuing the "sewage farmer strike" spoof, in order to reduce the queues at loos, would loo attendants insist on a minimum spend of 40 pounds ( lbs, not £'s ) ?

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Shoong says...
4:05pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Stdenysta wrote:

Shoong wrote:

George4th wrote: Red Len McCluskey is the man to blame. This VERY Left Wing ex Liverpool Docker heads up Unite. His hero is Arthur Scargill. You can work it out from there!!! > Strange how Ed Milliband hasn't said a word about the dispute but lots about Pasties!!!!!!!!!
It's like an old friend who you are too embarrassed to be associated with because they've gone off the rails isn't it?
Only someone arrogant enough to only care about themselves, (answer (c), see above) would be too embarrassed to associate with an old friend who has gone off the rails. Anyone with any compassion would try and help them, Surely?

Some are beyond help.

You try & try, but they just won't let you.

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Torchie1 says...
4:06pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Linesman wrote:

George4th wrote:

forest tony wrote:
Surprised that this inane government hasn't advised us yet to stock up on bread, milk and other groceries, they are definitely daft enough to. Definitely got the most brain dead government ever in all the 55 years I have lived, time the lot resigned!
"Definitely got the most brain dead government ever"

Without fear of contradiction that will most definitely go down in history as the government between 1997 and 2010. How to destroy an economy in double quick time! Our demise is totally down to Labour - they have ruined the future for generations to come.
Obviously another blinkered Tory who just cannot face up to the fact that the current administration is both corrupt and incompetent.

Of course, by causing this scare, combining it with a hike in fuel prices, our beloved government are raking in more cash because of the excessing tax on it.

I can only assume that it is part of the government's plan, to boost the building industry, by suggesting that we all have a jerry can of petrol stored in the garage. This would be bound to cause a couple of fires, that could be dealt with by a reduced-strength fire service, and leave a nice site for demolition and a chance for builders to move in.

You do understand that the government doesn't trouser the money they take in tax don't you? Any extra money raised in tax means less borrowing for the country and it's good for you in the long run.

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TEBOURBA says...
4:13pm Thu 29 Mar 12

When George 4th is lampooning the last Labour Government he forgot to mention that Gordon Brown was also responsible for the financial meltdown in every country of the World, except perhaps China ; banks going bust in the home of capitalism the USA, house prices there dropping by 75% unemployment soaring, Greece, Italy, Spain , Portugal, Ireland, all close to going bust; even Dubai left with thousands of unsold luxury dwellings--- come on George you're letting Gordon off lightly, or is it perhaps not Gordon's fault at all but that of the greedy capitalist bankers worldwide, --- blinkered? --there's no so blind as those who will not see!

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Folkestone Saint says...
4:22pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Most people in the queue I passed were probably retired, whilst the working public wont be able to buy any fuel within the next couple of days because of them and they wont need it as much as say nurses and doctors (due to hospitals being out of town) but will moan like hell when their appointments are cancelled due to staff not able to get to work

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aldermoorboy says...
4:29pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Unions at it again, drivers earn £45,000 per year, that's a good wage, they should not be causing this stress.
Labour/Unions will wreck this country, remember are car industry, now 90% overseas companies.

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Quite Frankly says...
4:52pm Thu 29 Mar 12

aldermoorboy wrote:
Unions at it again, drivers earn £45,000 per year, that's a good wage, they should not be causing this stress. Labour/Unions will wreck this country, remember are car industry, now 90% overseas companies.

No strike action set. Idiotic comments from Ministers, and lemming-like behaviour from many people who should know better. Oh, and knee-jerk nonsense from you and your ilk. "are car industry". Speaks volumes.

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Over the Edge says...
4:56pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Excise duty on fuel collected by the Government since Tuesday £32 million.

ACAC has said this afternoon, there will be no meeting between the unions and employers until Monday, therefore no strike until the earliest Monday 9th April.

This Government message is Keep Calm and we will Collect the Excise Duty.

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Fatty x Ford Worker says...
5:04pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Go Bio Diesel you chimps!

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George4th says...
5:10pm Thu 29 Mar 12

TEBOURBA wrote:
When George 4th is lampooning the last Labour Government he forgot to mention that Gordon Brown was also responsible for the financial meltdown in every country of the World, except perhaps China ; banks going bust in the home of capitalism the USA, house prices there dropping by 75% unemployment soaring, Greece, Italy, Spain , Portugal, Ireland, all close to going bust; even Dubai left with thousands of unsold luxury dwellings--- come on George you're letting Gordon off lightly, or is it perhaps not Gordon's fault at all but that of the greedy capitalist bankers worldwide, --- blinkered? --there's no so blind as those who will not see!

Let's just take a couple of all your inaccuracies.
Greece (should never have been allowed to join EU) - The Greek government (and previous Greek governments) brought down the country, and its banks along with it, due to its finances going back many years.
Italy, like Greece, is in trouble because of long-term financial mismanagement (should never have been allowed to join EU)
>
With regard to our ex Chancellor and Prime Minister -
Gordon Brown created the Biggest CREDIT BUBBLE ever and he created the Biggest PROPERTY BUBBLE ever - both BURST!! The consequence of which is a Massive Debt caused by spending money we didn't have and borrowing more money to spend!!!!
P.S.
Only 4 Banks needed help, out of over 500 in London!

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Linesman says...
5:24pm Thu 29 Mar 12

George4th wrote:
Red Len McCluskey is the man to blame. This VERY Left Wing ex Liverpool Docker heads up Unite. His hero is Arthur Scargill. You can work it out from there!!!
>
Strange how Ed Milliband hasn't said a word about the dispute but lots about Pasties!!!!!!!!!

What I find strange is that when haulage firms were blockading refineries, protesting about high fuel prices, when Labour were in power, the media claimed that it was the government who were to blame.

Now, there is only talk of a strike, the government start panic buying with their stupid statements, and people like you, who cannot see further than the end of their Tory noses, want to blame the Unions.

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Linesman says...
5:28pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Torchie1 wrote:

Linesman wrote:

George4th wrote:

forest tony wrote:
Surprised that this inane government hasn't advised us yet to stock up on bread, milk and other groceries, they are definitely daft enough to. Definitely got the most brain dead government ever in all the 55 years I have lived, time the lot resigned!
"Definitely got the most brain dead government ever"

Without fear of contradiction that will most definitely go down in history as the government between 1997 and 2010. How to destroy an economy in double quick time! Our demise is totally down to Labour - they have ruined the future for generations to come.
Obviously another blinkered Tory who just cannot face up to the fact that the current administration is both corrupt and incompetent.

Of course, by causing this scare, combining it with a hike in fuel prices, our beloved government are raking in more cash because of the excessing tax on it.

I can only assume that it is part of the government's plan, to boost the building industry, by suggesting that we all have a jerry can of petrol stored in the garage. This would be bound to cause a couple of fires, that could be dealt with by a reduced-strength fire service, and leave a nice site for demolition and a chance for builders to move in.
You do understand that the government doesn't trouser the money they take in tax don't you? Any extra money raised in tax means less borrowing for the country and it's good for you in the long run.

If that is the case, why cut the top rate of tax?

I suppose you think that it is better to hammer the pensioners.

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Condor Man says...
5:33pm Thu 29 Mar 12

This government is not performing well at the moment but their saving grace could be Ed Milliband struggling to buy a sausage roll from Greggs the other day. We deserve a better government and opposition than this.

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Linesman says...
5:34pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Quite Frankly wrote:

aldermoorboy wrote:
Unions at it again, drivers earn £45,000 per year, that's a good wage, they should not be causing this stress. Labour/Unions will wreck this country, remember are car industry, now 90% overseas companies.
No strike action set. Idiotic comments from Ministers, and lemming-like behaviour from many people who should know better. Oh, and knee-jerk nonsense from you and your ilk. "are car industry". Speaks volumes.

What a pity that aldermoorboy shoots his mouth off on a subject that he appears to know precious little about.

The Unions are NOT talking about striking for more money, but about conditions where they have to do deliveries within a certain period, regardless of traffic conditions, and doing quick turn-rounds.

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Linesman says...
5:35pm Thu 29 Mar 12

George4th wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote:
When George 4th is lampooning the last Labour Government he forgot to mention that Gordon Brown was also responsible for the financial meltdown in every country of the World, except perhaps China ; banks going bust in the home of capitalism the USA, house prices there dropping by 75% unemployment soaring, Greece, Italy, Spain , Portugal, Ireland, all close to going bust; even Dubai left with thousands of unsold luxury dwellings--- come on George you're letting Gordon off lightly, or is it perhaps not Gordon's fault at all but that of the greedy capitalist bankers worldwide, --- blinkered? --there's no so blind as those who will not see!
Let's just take a couple of all your inaccuracies.
Greece (should never have been allowed to join EU) - The Greek government (and previous Greek governments) brought down the country, and its banks along with it, due to its finances going back many years.
Italy, like Greece, is in trouble because of long-term financial mismanagement (should never have been allowed to join EU)
>
With regard to our ex Chancellor and Prime Minister -
Gordon Brown created the Biggest CREDIT BUBBLE ever and he created the Biggest PROPERTY BUBBLE ever - both BURST!! The consequence of which is a Massive Debt caused by spending money we didn't have and borrowing more money to spend!!!!
P.S.
Only 4 Banks needed help, out of over 500 in London!

What about the councils that needed bailing out because they had invested in Icelandic banks?

What about building societies?

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Cookiecutter says...
5:39pm Thu 29 Mar 12

This is nothing more than people causing a panic buy to get the profits out of the petrol before the bottom drops out of gas prices, as it surely will as soon as school lets out.

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commonsence says...
5:48pm Thu 29 Mar 12

What is this proposed strike really about ? It has been quoted that most of these driver earn 40k or more , wow I would like to earn that much. IF a strike happens all it will do is raise all prices even more than they are and food shortages because deliveries cant be made.

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Lone Ranger. says...
5:52pm Thu 29 Mar 12

A regards Quote " only 4 banks needed help".
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Ridiculous .... with the help to the 4 the rest of the banks throught Europe inc UK and America and most civilised countries wod have also been in enormous trouble due to the banks lending community that means that virtually all banks are intertwined.
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The results would have been catastrophic for the whole banking world.
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Dont let people tell you any different as this is well documented in the banking world

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Lone Ranger. says...
5:55pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Condor Man wrote:
This government is not performing well at the moment but their saving grace could be Ed Milliband struggling to buy a sausage roll from Greggs the other day. We deserve a better government and opposition than this.

The opposition is far better than the last one.
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And by all accounts wont be in opposition as long as the last ones either.
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In addition this government has not performed at all since their election .......... Sleaze, U-turns and incompetence

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Folkestone Saint says...
5:56pm Thu 29 Mar 12

commonsence wrote:
What is this proposed strike really about ? It has been quoted that most of these driver earn 40k or more , wow I would like to earn that much. IF a strike happens all it will do is raise all prices even more than they are and food shortages because deliveries cant be made.

It is to do with the delivery schedule, the drivers have to exceed the speedlimit to be able to get from the foundry to the stations and back in the allotted time, this could also have an impact on saftey during the delivery, for once it is not about the money.

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soton-mike80 says...
6:02pm Thu 29 Mar 12

This is ridiculous... why don't all petrol stations implement a minimum £30 fuel limit until these numpties stop panic buying! I sometimes despair at the people in this country!!

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sotonbev says...
6:12pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Seems a bit harsh, its not a law that is being broken, but then it is a pain in the **** being stuck in traffic because of it, lots of people are not panic buying!

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Torchie1 says...
6:15pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Linesman wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

Linesman wrote:

George4th wrote:

forest tony wrote:
Surprised that this inane government hasn't advised us yet to stock up on bread, milk and other groceries, they are definitely daft enough to. Definitely got the most brain dead government ever in all the 55 years I have lived, time the lot resigned!
"Definitely got the most brain dead government ever"

Without fear of contradiction that will most definitely go down in history as the government between 1997 and 2010. How to destroy an economy in double quick time! Our demise is totally down to Labour - they have ruined the future for generations to come.
Obviously another blinkered Tory who just cannot face up to the fact that the current administration is both corrupt and incompetent.

Of course, by causing this scare, combining it with a hike in fuel prices, our beloved government are raking in more cash because of the excessing tax on it.

I can only assume that it is part of the government's plan, to boost the building industry, by suggesting that we all have a jerry can of petrol stored in the garage. This would be bound to cause a couple of fires, that could be dealt with by a reduced-strength fire service, and leave a nice site for demolition and a chance for builders to move in.
You do understand that the government doesn't trouser the money they take in tax don't you? Any extra money raised in tax means less borrowing for the country and it's good for you in the long run.
If that is the case, why cut the top rate of tax?

I suppose you think that it is better to hammer the pensioners.

You've been reading too many of Southy's posts where awkward questions invariably lead to the introduction of unrelated arguments.Personally I wouldn't have cut the top rate because it was reasonably easy to sidestep and gave you some comfort believing that high earners were being punished.

[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest tony[/bold] wrote: Surprised that this inane government hasn't advised us yet to stock up on bread, milk and other groceries, they are definitely daft enough to. Definitely got the most brain dead government ever in all the 55 years I have lived, time the lot resigned![/p][/quote]"Definitely got the most brain dead government ever" Without fear of contradiction that will most definitely go down in history as the government between 1997 and 2010. How to destroy an economy in double quick time! Our demise is totally down to Labour - they have ruined the future for generations to come.[/p][/quote]Obviously another blinkered Tory who just cannot face up to the fact that the current administration is both corrupt and incompetent. Of course, by causing this scare, combining it with a hike in fuel prices, our beloved government are raking in more cash because of the excessing tax on it. I can only assume that it is part of the government's plan, to boost the building industry, by suggesting that we all have a jerry can of petrol stored in the garage. This would be bound to cause a couple of fires, that could be dealt with by a reduced-strength fire service, and leave a nice site for demolition and a chance for builders to move in.[/p][/quote]You do understand that the government doesn't trouser the money they take in tax don't you? Any extra money raised in tax means less borrowing for the country and it's good for you in the long run.[/p][/quote]If that is the case, why cut the top rate of tax? I suppose you think that it is better to hammer the pensioners.[/p][/quote]You've been reading too many of Southy's posts where awkward questions invariably lead to the introduction of unrelated arguments.Personally I wouldn't have cut the top rate because it was reasonably easy to sidestep and gave you some comfort believing that high earners were being punished. Torchie1

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commonsence says...
6:18pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Thank you Folkstone Saint for your post.I would guess to earn that kind of wage the drivers would have to do so many deliveries a day and need to have enough breaks to comply with the taco( may have spelt that wrong ) Even this being the case is strike action really the way to go when the whole country will suffer.

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SOULJACKER says...
6:23pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Hahaha, I work in Poole & believe me...the place is full of old wrinklies with nothing better to do than go fill up their cars!

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good-gosh says...
6:28pm Thu 29 Mar 12

The public is a mischievous species. When threatened, it defends itself.

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Condor Man says...
7:14pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Lone Ranger. wrote:

Condor Man wrote:
This government is not performing well at the moment but their saving grace could be Ed Milliband struggling to buy a sausage roll from Greggs the other day. We deserve a better government and opposition than this.
The opposition is far better than the last one.
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And by all accounts wont be in opposition as long as the last ones either.
.
In addition this government has not performed at all since their election .......... Sleaze, U-turns and incompetence

You can't honestly say that the previous lot were any better. Illegal wars? financial collapse? cash for passports?

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thinklikealocal says...
7:47pm Thu 29 Mar 12

George4th wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote: When George 4th is lampooning the last Labour Government he forgot to mention that Gordon Brown was also responsible for the financial meltdown in every country of the World, except perhaps China ; banks going bust in the home of capitalism the USA, house prices there dropping by 75% unemployment soaring, Greece, Italy, Spain , Portugal, Ireland, all close to going bust; even Dubai left with thousands of unsold luxury dwellings--- come on George you're letting Gordon off lightly, or is it perhaps not Gordon's fault at all but that of the greedy capitalist bankers worldwide, --- blinkered? --there's no so blind as those who will not see!
Let's just take a couple of all your inaccuracies. Greece (should never have been allowed to join EU) - The Greek government (and previous Greek governments) brought down the country, and its banks along with it, due to its finances going back many years. Italy, like Greece, is in trouble because of long-term financial mismanagement (should never have been allowed to join EU) > With regard to our ex Chancellor and Prime Minister - Gordon Brown created the Biggest CREDIT BUBBLE ever and he created the Biggest PROPERTY BUBBLE ever - both BURST!! The consequence of which is a Massive Debt caused by spending money we didn't have and borrowing more money to spend!!!! P.S. Only 4 Banks needed help, out of over 500 in London!

George, you really are 'highly selective' when picking what GB was responsible for ruining. Fact is, the financial market stopped lending banks money because they had aquired so much 'toxic' debt from places like America, Ireland etc. Banks then stopped lending to businesses and private customers. This caused a huge contraction in the housing market and business in general which in turn caused a slump. Now, how is GB single handedly responsible for that through gross negligence? The CEO of RBS was on £10M per year but apparently couldn't work out what a sack of **** 'mortgage bundles' the bank was aquiring over the pond. Let the blame rest where it belongs. And don't give me the 'lack of regulation' ****, the Tories are al;l for tearing up every and any rule book they can find in favour of 'free enterprise'.

[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: When George 4th is lampooning the last Labour Government he forgot to mention that Gordon Brown was also responsible for the financial meltdown in every country of the World, except perhaps China ; banks going bust in the home of capitalism the USA, house prices there dropping by 75% unemployment soaring, Greece, Italy, Spain , Portugal, Ireland, all close to going bust; even Dubai left with thousands of unsold luxury dwellings--- come on George you're letting Gordon off lightly, or is it perhaps not Gordon's fault at all but that of the greedy capitalist bankers worldwide, --- blinkered? --there's no so blind as those who will not see![/p][/quote]Let's just take a couple of all your inaccuracies. Greece (should never have been allowed to join EU) - The Greek government (and previous Greek governments) brought down the country, and its banks along with it, due to its finances going back many years. Italy, like Greece, is in trouble because of long-term financial mismanagement (should never have been allowed to join EU) > With regard to our ex Chancellor and Prime Minister - Gordon Brown created the Biggest CREDIT BUBBLE ever and he created the Biggest PROPERTY BUBBLE ever - both BURST!! The consequence of which is a Massive Debt caused by spending money we didn't have and borrowing more money to spend!!!! P.S. Only 4 Banks needed help, out of over 500 in London![/p][/quote]George, you really are 'highly selective' when picking what GB was responsible for ruining. Fact is, the financial market stopped lending banks money because they had aquired so much 'toxic' debt from places like America, Ireland etc. Banks then stopped lending to businesses and private customers. This caused a huge contraction in the housing market and business in general which in turn caused a slump. Now, how is GB single handedly responsible for that through gross negligence? The CEO of RBS was on £10M per year but apparently couldn't work out what a sack of **** 'mortgage bundles' the bank was aquiring over the pond. Let the blame rest where it belongs. And don't give me the 'lack of regulation' ****, the Tories are al;l for tearing up every and any rule book they can find in favour of 'free enterprise'. thinklikealocal

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Lone Ranger. says...
7:48pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Condor Man wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

Condor Man wrote:
This government is not performing well at the moment but their saving grace could be Ed Milliband struggling to buy a sausage roll from Greggs the other day. We deserve a better government and opposition than this.
The opposition is far better than the last one.
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And by all accounts wont be in opposition as long as the last ones either.
.
In addition this government has not performed at all since their election .......... Sleaze, U-turns and incompetence
You can't honestly say that the previous lot were any better. Illegal wars? financial collapse? cash for passports?

Yes but that was over thirteen years ........ Your lot have excceded that in 20 months.
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At least there was one surprise .. ...... It took Slippery Dave 12 mionths to get caught out ....... Much quicker than i anticipated.
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Now that he has been found out for what he is the Tory press are really digging the knife in... big time along with useless George.
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I cant believe that they will both make 5 years somehow

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Lone Ranger. says...
7:50pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Condor Man wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

Condor Man wrote:
This government is not performing well at the moment but their saving grace could be Ed Milliband struggling to buy a sausage roll from Greggs the other day. We deserve a better government and opposition than this.
The opposition is far better than the last one.
.
And by all accounts wont be in opposition as long as the last ones either.
.
In addition this government has not performed at all since their election .......... Sleaze, U-turns and incompetence
You can't honestly say that the previous lot were any better. Illegal wars? financial collapse? cash for passports?

Oh yes ... one thing i have noticed ............. You havent complained about petrol prices since the Tories got in!!!!!!!!!

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bully0046 says...
7:56pm Thu 29 Mar 12

I filled up in town this morning no ques/problems at all, went past a few garages today no problems in them either!, Just the Daily Echo grabbing the story off of other sites as per usual

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bully0046 says...
7:56pm Thu 29 Mar 12

I filled up in town this morning no ques/problems at all, went past a few garages today no problems in them either!, Just the Daily Echo grabbing the story off of other sites as per usual

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jason197235 says...
8:13pm Thu 29 Mar 12

TEBOURBA wrote:
People are only doing what this pathetic Government advised them to do, fill up their petrol cans and store the potential time bomb in their garage, garden shed or flat -- much to the concern and disgust of the Fire Brigade
Why did this excuse for a Government do it ? ---simply to provoke public opinion against the tanker drivers, who have a legitimate right to seek better conditions and withdraw their labour if necessary.
The idea that the armed services can efficiently take over the delivery of fuel, other than to essential users such as hospitals,schools etc. is a Cameron pipe dream.

what idiots, people have a mind of their own, what the government says has nothing to do with it, it is the brain dead people who think the strike is imminent that are stock piling not the people with savvy who are blocking the road network and shouting O.M.G gotta have petrol they all need to use their brains and not follow what a couple of no-brainers say

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a and e says...
8:20pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Lone Ranger. wrote:
A regards Quote " only 4 banks needed help".
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Ridiculous .... with the help to the 4 the rest of the banks throught Europe inc UK and America and most civilised countries wod have also been in enormous trouble due to the banks lending community that means that virtually all banks are intertwined.
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The results would have been catastrophic for the whole banking world.
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Dont let people tell you any different as this is well documented in the banking world

Banking crisis over , not in a million years , look up Derivatives time bomb , top five banks owe over 250 TRILLION !!!!

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Totton Ric says...
9:43pm Thu 29 Mar 12

solents wrote:
It is just me. . .or has the price of fuel suddenly gone up now that we all want it. . .When I last bought diesel last week it was around £1.42 a litre - today I had to pay £1.48. I've heard other garages charging £1.52 ! !

Greed,Wouldn't get away with this in France, this Countrys gone soft, about time we all stood up !!!!

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thinklikealocal says...
9:51pm Thu 29 Mar 12

bully0046 wrote:
I filled up in town this morning no ques/problems at all, went past a few garages today no problems in them either!, Just the Daily Echo grabbing the story off of other sites as per usual

hmmmm, think ur being a tad harsh on the echo, every petrol station i hav passed today had a large q.

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andysaints007 says...
9:58pm Thu 29 Mar 12

OMG the same old boring, boring lefties at it again !! Any excuse to have a whinge on here !! Do any of you moaners actually think for yourselves? No one is holding a gun to anyone's head and telling them to panic - but then some people just love to create a crisis out of nothing don't they!!

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SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...
10:19pm Thu 29 Mar 12

southy wrote:
what idoits, mind you this panic was cause by the government. A date not even been set yet to start the strike on, unions are still in talks and while there is talks going on there be no strike not till talks have ended. maybe its some thing Royston should of done

The Coning tories want to build up their coffers , a nice little windfall considering how much TAX there is on fuel costs. its a panic they made and ONLY they win win win.

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circa 66 saint says...
10:22pm Thu 29 Mar 12

they queued to fill their tanks on tuesday and wednesday and are now queueing to top up on a daily basis.
i was behind a woman at rownhams services waiting to pay for fuel she told me it cost her over £120 to fill up yesturday and she had to top up and made a special journey to do so ending up on the m27 her total spend on fuel was £4.60 madness or what

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dango says...
10:37pm Thu 29 Mar 12

don't believe the hype, it's a sequal,,,,,,,,,,,,;-
) PANIC - NOW!

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Linesman says...
10:44pm Thu 29 Mar 12

commonsence wrote:
What is this proposed strike really about ? It has been quoted that most of these driver earn 40k or more , wow I would like to earn that much. IF a strike happens all it will do is raise all prices even more than they are and food shortages because deliveries cant be made.

It is not about wages it is about conditions.

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Linesman says...
10:46pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Torchie1 wrote:

Linesman wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

Linesman wrote:

George4th wrote:

forest tony wrote:
Surprised that this inane government hasn't advised us yet to stock up on bread, milk and other groceries, they are definitely daft enough to. Definitely got the most brain dead government ever in all the 55 years I have lived, time the lot resigned!
"Definitely got the most brain dead government ever"

Without fear of contradiction that will most definitely go down in history as the government between 1997 and 2010. How to destroy an economy in double quick time! Our demise is totally down to Labour - they have ruined the future for generations to come.
Obviously another blinkered Tory who just cannot face up to the fact that the current administration is both corrupt and incompetent.

Of course, by causing this scare, combining it with a hike in fuel prices, our beloved government are raking in more cash because of the excessing tax on it.

I can only assume that it is part of the government's plan, to boost the building industry, by suggesting that we all have a jerry can of petrol stored in the garage. This would be bound to cause a couple of fires, that could be dealt with by a reduced-strength fire service, and leave a nice site for demolition and a chance for builders to move in.
You do understand that the government doesn't trouser the money they take in tax don't you? Any extra money raised in tax means less borrowing for the country and it's good for you in the long run.
If that is the case, why cut the top rate of tax?

I suppose you think that it is better to hammer the pensioners.
You've been reading too many of Southy's posts where awkward questions invariably lead to the introduction of unrelated arguments.Personally I wouldn't have cut the top rate because it was reasonably easy to sidestep and gave you some comfort believing that high earners were being punished.

I do not need any advice from Southy or anyone else. I am a pensioner, and I know how it will affect me.

[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest tony[/bold] wrote: Surprised that this inane government hasn't advised us yet to stock up on bread, milk and other groceries, they are definitely daft enough to. Definitely got the most brain dead government ever in all the 55 years I have lived, time the lot resigned![/p][/quote]"Definitely got the most brain dead government ever" Without fear of contradiction that will most definitely go down in history as the government between 1997 and 2010. How to destroy an economy in double quick time! Our demise is totally down to Labour - they have ruined the future for generations to come.[/p][/quote]Obviously another blinkered Tory who just cannot face up to the fact that the current administration is both corrupt and incompetent. Of course, by causing this scare, combining it with a hike in fuel prices, our beloved government are raking in more cash because of the excessing tax on it. I can only assume that it is part of the government's plan, to boost the building industry, by suggesting that we all have a jerry can of petrol stored in the garage. This would be bound to cause a couple of fires, that could be dealt with by a reduced-strength fire service, and leave a nice site for demolition and a chance for builders to move in.[/p][/quote]You do understand that the government doesn't trouser the money they take in tax don't you? Any extra money raised in tax means less borrowing for the country and it's good for you in the long run.[/p][/quote]If that is the case, why cut the top rate of tax? I suppose you think that it is better to hammer the pensioners.[/p][/quote]You've been reading too many of Southy's posts where awkward questions invariably lead to the introduction of unrelated arguments.Personally I wouldn't have cut the top rate because it was reasonably easy to sidestep and gave you some comfort believing that high earners were being punished.[/p][/quote]I do not need any advice from Southy or anyone else. I am a pensioner, and I know how it will affect me. Linesman

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forest hump says...
10:49pm Thu 29 Mar 12

These drivers are the highest paid in the HGV community. They are attempting to hold the country to ransom. I doubt if they will get much sympathy within the truck driving community, let alone the general public. And let us not forget: the reason we pay so much for fuel is down to Government greed...nothing else

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Glen Wiffen says...
10:50pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Oh well...done the same as normal and managed to fill up after shopping tonight. I feel for those with holiday plans with their families this week due to people's pure selfishness and stupidity. By the way does anyone know when the (potential strike is and oh is it for 1 day or 2)? Perhaps they no longer need to strike as the damage is already done and they have put their case for whatever across already with mindless comments from the government. All in all a typical Great British ****-up. I suggest it's sorted before the Olympics! Oh and those of you who did panic buy should be ashamed of your selves.....THERE IS NO STRIKE YET!!!

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Linesman says...
10:51pm Thu 29 Mar 12

SOULJACKER wrote:
Hahaha, I work in Poole & believe me...the place is full of old wrinklies with nothing better to do than go fill up their cars!

Spoken like a true Moron.

No doubt many of those wrinklies that you appear to making fun of, were people who put their lives on the line during WWII to ensure that people like you do not now have German as your first language.

They are also the ones that had to put the country back on its feet after WWII. The country that people, like you, take for granted and think that it owes you a living.

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Linesman says...
10:51pm Thu 29 Mar 12

SOULJACKER wrote:
Hahaha, I work in Poole & believe me...the place is full of old wrinklies with nothing better to do than go fill up their cars!

Spoken like a true Moron.

No doubt many of those wrinklies that you appear to making fun of, were people who put their lives on the line during WWII to ensure that people like you do not now have German as your first language.

They are also the ones that had to put the country back on its feet after WWII. The country that people, like you, take for granted and think that it owes you a living.

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ssnaked23 says...
11:21pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Well I went out later this evening with the pretence of getting some fuel as my tank is nearly empty and low and behold there were queues at 2 of my local petrol stations!! Why? All because of an irresponsible MP saying about fill up your car as a precaution because of a potential strike by tanker drivers. As already reported in the media they wont strike without first giving 7 days notice. Have we had this? NO! So to all the numpties out there, doh!! Thick or what and is this really the forum for people to pop at each other political leanings blaming which government did what to who to when etc. This is about the panic fuel buying and what the underlying cause is, so now Im going to have to try, at a normal time of leaving for work, which is early enough, to see if I can actually buy some petrol to get to work. I would ride my (which I often do) but it needs to be repaired, and as one person it certainly hasnt damaged the governments coffers these last couple of days

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Poppy22 says...
11:43pm Thu 29 Mar 12

I went out this afternoon for a walk by the sea and spent most of the time trying to get past long queues at (a) the Stubbington petrol station and (b) the Park Gate one at the top of Brook Lane. When I passed the A27 Shell garage near Titchfield Common it was closed. I used up most of my petrol sitting in long queues waiting to get past petrol stations (one even had a staff member having to sort out the crazy customers behaving stupidly in their panic to get to the pumps!).
I can't believe how stupid people are and bet no more than 10% of the people panicking to get petrol today and last night actually needed to fill up their tanks for essential reasons.
As for David Cameron's manipulating statement that people should top up their tanks - well, he thinks we're all stupid sheep and sadly many people seem to be proving him right! This idiotic panic buying by people who hardly ever use their cars will cause shortages and my anger is currently more to those people than the drivers talking about striking for health and safety reasons. There's not even a strike date set.

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George4th says...
12:43am Fri 30 Mar 12

thinklikealocal wrote:

George4th wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote: When George 4th is lampooning the last Labour Government he forgot to mention that Gordon Brown was also responsible for the financial meltdown in every country of the World, except perhaps China ; banks going bust in the home of capitalism the USA, house prices there dropping by 75% unemployment soaring, Greece, Italy, Spain , Portugal, Ireland, all close to going bust; even Dubai left with thousands of unsold luxury dwellings--- come on George you're letting Gordon off lightly, or is it perhaps not Gordon's fault at all but that of the greedy capitalist bankers worldwide, --- blinkered? --there's no so blind as those who will not see!
Let's just take a couple of all your inaccuracies. Greece (should never have been allowed to join EU) - The Greek government (and previous Greek governments) brought down the country, and its banks along with it, due to its finances going back many years. Italy, like Greece, is in trouble because of long-term financial mismanagement (should never have been allowed to join EU) > With regard to our ex Chancellor and Prime Minister - Gordon Brown created the Biggest CREDIT BUBBLE ever and he created the Biggest PROPERTY BUBBLE ever - both BURST!! The consequence of which is a Massive Debt caused by spending money we didn't have and borrowing more money to spend!!!! P.S. Only 4 Banks needed help, out of over 500 in London!
George, you really are 'highly selective' when picking what GB was responsible for ruining. Fact is, the financial market stopped lending banks money because they had aquired so much 'toxic' debt from places like America, Ireland etc. Banks then stopped lending to businesses and private customers. This caused a huge contraction in the housing market and business in general which in turn caused a slump. Now, how is GB single handedly responsible for that through gross negligence? The CEO of RBS was on £10M per year but apparently couldn't work out what a sack of **** 'mortgage bundles' the bank was aquiring over the pond. Let the blame rest where it belongs. And don't give me the 'lack of regulation' ****, the Tories are al;l for tearing up every and any rule book they can find in favour of 'free enterprise'.

As I stated, the Labour government created the Property Bubble and the Credit Bubble - do you wish to dispute that?
>
And for your information, the Labour government inherited the best economy any new government has ever inherited AND, with No Debt!
>
AND, for your further information, the Labour government had created a DEBT of £600 Billion and Rising BEFORE the global financial crisis!!!!!!! And that was despite selling our Gold and Raiding Pensions and numerous other ploys to get money.
>
The simple truth is that Labour spend without thought for the future - it is always their downfall, both at council and government level. The irony is that the people most affected by this are the people who need it most! It is a fact that the last Labour government widened the gap between the haves and the have nots - even a Labour supporter must admit that is ridiculous!

[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: When George 4th is lampooning the last Labour Government he forgot to mention that Gordon Brown was also responsible for the financial meltdown in every country of the World, except perhaps China ; banks going bust in the home of capitalism the USA, house prices there dropping by 75% unemployment soaring, Greece, Italy, Spain , Portugal, Ireland, all close to going bust; even Dubai left with thousands of unsold luxury dwellings--- come on George you're letting Gordon off lightly, or is it perhaps not Gordon's fault at all but that of the greedy capitalist bankers worldwide, --- blinkered? --there's no so blind as those who will not see![/p][/quote]Let's just take a couple of all your inaccuracies. Greece (should never have been allowed to join EU) - The Greek government (and previous Greek governments) brought down the country, and its banks along with it, due to its finances going back many years. Italy, like Greece, is in trouble because of long-term financial mismanagement (should never have been allowed to join EU) > With regard to our ex Chancellor and Prime Minister - Gordon Brown created the Biggest CREDIT BUBBLE ever and he created the Biggest PROPERTY BUBBLE ever - both BURST!! The consequence of which is a Massive Debt caused by spending money we didn't have and borrowing more money to spend!!!! P.S. Only 4 Banks needed help, out of over 500 in London![/p][/quote]George, you really are 'highly selective' when picking what GB was responsible for ruining. Fact is, the financial market stopped lending banks money because they had aquired so much 'toxic' debt from places like America, Ireland etc. Banks then stopped lending to businesses and private customers. This caused a huge contraction in the housing market and business in general which in turn caused a slump. Now, how is GB single handedly responsible for that through gross negligence? The CEO of RBS was on £10M per year but apparently couldn't work out what a sack of **** 'mortgage bundles' the bank was aquiring over the pond. Let the blame rest where it belongs. And don't give me the 'lack of regulation' ****, the Tories are al;l for tearing up every and any rule book they can find in favour of 'free enterprise'.[/p][/quote]As I stated, the Labour government created the Property Bubble and the Credit Bubble - do you wish to dispute that? > And for your information, the Labour government inherited the best economy any new government has ever inherited AND, with No Debt! > AND, for your further information, the Labour government had created a DEBT of £600 Billion and Rising BEFORE the global financial crisis!!!!!!! And that was despite selling our Gold and Raiding Pensions and numerous other ploys to get money. > The simple truth is that Labour spend without thought for the future - it is always their downfall, both at council and government level. The irony is that the people most affected by this are the people who need it most! It is a fact that the last Labour government widened the gap between the haves and the have nots - even a Labour supporter must admit that is ridiculous! George4th

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aldermoorboy says...
7:10am Fri 30 Mar 12

Good morning all.
George 4th you are 100% correct.

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Linesman says...
9:17am Fri 30 Mar 12

George4th wrote:

thinklikealocal wrote:

George4th wrote:

TEBOURBA wrote: When George 4th is lampooning the last Labour Government he forgot to mention that Gordon Brown was also responsible for the financial meltdown in every country of the World, except perhaps China ; banks going bust in the home of capitalism the USA, house prices there dropping by 75% unemployment soaring, Greece, Italy, Spain , Portugal, Ireland, all close to going bust; even Dubai left with thousands of unsold luxury dwellings--- come on George you're letting Gordon off lightly, or is it perhaps not Gordon's fault at all but that of the greedy capitalist bankers worldwide, --- blinkered? --there's no so blind as those who will not see!
Let's just take a couple of all your inaccuracies. Greece (should never have been allowed to join EU) - The Greek government (and previous Greek governments) brought down the country, and its banks along with it, due to its finances going back many years. Italy, like Greece, is in trouble because of long-term financial mismanagement (should never have been allowed to join EU) > With regard to our ex Chancellor and Prime Minister - Gordon Brown created the Biggest CREDIT BUBBLE ever and he created the Biggest PROPERTY BUBBLE ever - both BURST!! The consequence of which is a Massive Debt caused by spending money we didn't have and borrowing more money to spend!!!! P.S. Only 4 Banks needed help, out of over 500 in London!
George, you really are 'highly selective' when picking what GB was responsible for ruining. Fact is, the financial market stopped lending banks money because they had aquired so much 'toxic' debt from places like America, Ireland etc. Banks then stopped lending to businesses and private customers. This caused a huge contraction in the housing market and business in general which in turn caused a slump. Now, how is GB single handedly responsible for that through gross negligence? The CEO of RBS was on £10M per year but apparently couldn't work out what a sack of **** 'mortgage bundles' the bank was aquiring over the pond. Let the blame rest where it belongs. And don't give me the 'lack of regulation' ****, the Tories are al;l for tearing up every and any rule book they can find in favour of 'free enterprise'.
As I stated, the Labour government created the Property Bubble and the Credit Bubble - do you wish to dispute that?
>
And for your information, the Labour government inherited the best economy any new government has ever inherited AND, with No Debt!
>
AND, for your further information, the Labour government had created a DEBT of £600 Billion and Rising BEFORE the global financial crisis!!!!!!! And that was despite selling our Gold and Raiding Pensions and numerous other ploys to get money.
>
The simple truth is that Labour spend without thought for the future - it is always their downfall, both at council and government level. The irony is that the people most affected by this are the people who need it most! It is a fact that the last Labour government widened the gap between the haves and the have nots - even a Labour supporter must admit that is ridiculous!

Inherited the best economy?

Thatcher had sold anything that had not been nailed down and then lost most of the money made on 16 September, 1992 on Black Wednesday.

All of the nationalised industries sold off to give a 'one off' boost to her purse.

She should have taken heed of the story of 'The goose that laid the golden egg.'

She killed a whole flock of them, and squandered the proceeds.

Tell Me,

WHAT HAVE WE GOT TO SHOW FOR ALL THE MILLIONS SHE RAISED BY ALL OF THOSE SELL-OFFS?

[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: When George 4th is lampooning the last Labour Government he forgot to mention that Gordon Brown was also responsible for the financial meltdown in every country of the World, except perhaps China ; banks going bust in the home of capitalism the USA, house prices there dropping by 75% unemployment soaring, Greece, Italy, Spain , Portugal, Ireland, all close to going bust; even Dubai left with thousands of unsold luxury dwellings--- come on George you're letting Gordon off lightly, or is it perhaps not Gordon's fault at all but that of the greedy capitalist bankers worldwide, --- blinkered? --there's no so blind as those who will not see![/p][/quote]Let's just take a couple of all your inaccuracies. Greece (should never have been allowed to join EU) - The Greek government (and previous Greek governments) brought down the country, and its banks along with it, due to its finances going back many years. Italy, like Greece, is in trouble because of long-term financial mismanagement (should never have been allowed to join EU) > With regard to our ex Chancellor and Prime Minister - Gordon Brown created the Biggest CREDIT BUBBLE ever and he created the Biggest PROPERTY BUBBLE ever - both BURST!! The consequence of which is a Massive Debt caused by spending money we didn't have and borrowing more money to spend!!!! P.S. Only 4 Banks needed help, out of over 500 in London![/p][/quote]George, you really are 'highly selective' when picking what GB was responsible for ruining. Fact is, the financial market stopped lending banks money because they had aquired so much 'toxic' debt from places like America, Ireland etc. Banks then stopped lending to businesses and private customers. This caused a huge contraction in the housing market and business in general which in turn caused a slump. Now, how is GB single handedly responsible for that through gross negligence? The CEO of RBS was on £10M per year but apparently couldn't work out what a sack of **** 'mortgage bundles' the bank was aquiring over the pond. Let the blame rest where it belongs. And don't give me the 'lack of regulation' ****, the Tories are al;l for tearing up every and any rule book they can find in favour of 'free enterprise'.[/p][/quote]As I stated, the Labour government created the Property Bubble and the Credit Bubble - do you wish to dispute that? > And for your information, the Labour government inherited the best economy any new government has ever inherited AND, with No Debt! > AND, for your further information, the Labour government had created a DEBT of £600 Billion and Rising BEFORE the global financial crisis!!!!!!! And that was despite selling our Gold and Raiding Pensions and numerous other ploys to get money. > The simple truth is that Labour spend without thought for the future - it is always their downfall, both at council and government level. The irony is that the people most affected by this are the people who need it most! It is a fact that the last Labour government widened the gap between the haves and the have nots - even a Labour supporter must admit that is ridiculous![/p][/quote]Inherited the best economy? Thatcher had sold anything that had not been nailed down and then lost most of the money made on 16 September, 1992 on Black Wednesday. All of the nationalised industries sold off to give a 'one off' boost to her purse. She should have taken heed of the story of 'The goose that laid the golden egg.' She killed a whole flock of them, and squandered the proceeds. Tell Me, WHAT HAVE WE GOT TO SHOW FOR ALL THE MILLIONS SHE RAISED BY ALL OF THOSE SELL-OFFS? Linesman

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The Salv says...
9:59am Fri 30 Mar 12

Linesman wrote:

George4th wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
George4th wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote: When George 4th is lampooning the last Labour Government he forgot to mention that Gordon Brown was also responsible for the financial meltdown in every country of the World, except perhaps China ; banks going bust in the home of capitalism the USA, house prices there dropping by 75% unemployment soaring, Greece, Italy, Spain , Portugal, Ireland, all close to going bust; even Dubai left with thousands of unsold luxury dwellings--- come on George you're letting Gordon off lightly, or is it perhaps not Gordon's fault at all but that of the greedy capitalist bankers worldwide, --- blinkered? --there's no so blind as those who will not see!
Let's just take a couple of all your inaccuracies. Greece (should never have been allowed to join EU) - The Greek government (and previous Greek governments) brought down the country, and its banks along with it, due to its finances going back many years. Italy, like Greece, is in trouble because of long-term financial mismanagement (should never have been allowed to join EU) > With regard to our ex Chancellor and Prime Minister - Gordon Brown created the Biggest CREDIT BUBBLE ever and he created the Biggest PROPERTY BUBBLE ever - both BURST!! The consequence of which is a Massive Debt caused by spending money we didn't have and borrowing more money to spend!!!! P.S. Only 4 Banks needed help, out of over 500 in London!
George, you really are 'highly selective' when picking what GB was responsible for ruining. Fact is, the financial market stopped lending banks money because they had aquired so much 'toxic' debt from places like America, Ireland etc. Banks then stopped lending to businesses and private customers. This caused a huge contraction in the housing market and business in general which in turn caused a slump. Now, how is GB single handedly responsible for that through gross negligence? The CEO of RBS was on £10M per year but apparently couldn't work out what a sack of **** 'mortgage bundles' the bank was aquiring over the pond. Let the blame rest where it belongs. And don't give me the 'lack of regulation' ****, the Tories are al;l for tearing up every and any rule book they can find in favour of 'free enterprise'.
As I stated, the Labour government created the Property Bubble and the Credit Bubble - do you wish to dispute that? > And for your information, the Labour government inherited the best economy any new government has ever inherited AND, with No Debt! > AND, for your further information, the Labour government had created a DEBT of £600 Billion and Rising BEFORE the global financial crisis!!!!!!! And that was despite selling our Gold and Raiding Pensions and numerous other ploys to get money. > The simple truth is that Labour spend without thought for the future - it is always their downfall, both at council and government level. The irony is that the people most affected by this are the people who need it most! It is a fact that the last Labour government widened the gap between the haves and the have nots - even a Labour supporter must admit that is ridiculous!
Inherited the best economy? Thatcher had sold anything that had not been nailed down and then lost most of the money made on 16 September, 1992 on Black Wednesday. All of the nationalised industries sold off to give a 'one off' boost to her purse. She should have taken heed of the story of 'The goose that laid the golden egg.' She killed a whole flock of them, and squandered the proceeds. Tell Me, WHAT HAVE WE GOT TO SHOW FOR ALL THE MILLIONS SHE RAISED BY ALL OF THOSE SELL-OFFS?

Thatcher had sold anything that had not been nailed down and then lost most of the money made on 16 September, 1992 on Black Wednesday.
.
You cant blame Black Wednesday on the Tories. Even Labour were in Favour of entering the sterling into the ERM. Also shows how well the economy recovered in a short space of time under the Tories until Labour got their grubby little hands on it in 1997.

[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: When George 4th is lampooning the last Labour Government he forgot to mention that Gordon Brown was also responsible for the financial meltdown in every country of the World, except perhaps China ; banks going bust in the home of capitalism the USA, house prices there dropping by 75% unemployment soaring, Greece, Italy, Spain , Portugal, Ireland, all close to going bust; even Dubai left with thousands of unsold luxury dwellings--- come on George you're letting Gordon off lightly, or is it perhaps not Gordon's fault at all but that of the greedy capitalist bankers worldwide, --- blinkered? --there's no so blind as those who will not see![/p][/quote]Let's just take a couple of all your inaccuracies. Greece (should never have been allowed to join EU) - The Greek government (and previous Greek governments) brought down the country, and its banks along with it, due to its finances going back many years. Italy, like Greece, is in trouble because of long-term financial mismanagement (should never have been allowed to join EU) > With regard to our ex Chancellor and Prime Minister - Gordon Brown created the Biggest CREDIT BUBBLE ever and he created the Biggest PROPERTY BUBBLE ever - both BURST!! The consequence of which is a Massive Debt caused by spending money we didn't have and borrowing more money to spend!!!! P.S. Only 4 Banks needed help, out of over 500 in London![/p][/quote]George, you really are 'highly selective' when picking what GB was responsible for ruining. Fact is, the financial market stopped lending banks money because they had aquired so much 'toxic' debt from places like America, Ireland etc. Banks then stopped lending to businesses and private customers. This caused a huge contraction in the housing market and business in general which in turn caused a slump. Now, how is GB single handedly responsible for that through gross negligence? The CEO of RBS was on £10M per year but apparently couldn't work out what a sack of **** 'mortgage bundles' the bank was aquiring over the pond. Let the blame rest where it belongs. And don't give me the 'lack of regulation' ****, the Tories are al;l for tearing up every and any rule book they can find in favour of 'free enterprise'.[/p][/quote]As I stated, the Labour government created the Property Bubble and the Credit Bubble - do you wish to dispute that? > And for your information, the Labour government inherited the best economy any new government has ever inherited AND, with No Debt! > AND, for your further information, the Labour government had created a DEBT of £600 Billion and Rising BEFORE the global financial crisis!!!!!!! And that was despite selling our Gold and Raiding Pensions and numerous other ploys to get money. > The simple truth is that Labour spend without thought for the future - it is always their downfall, both at council and government level. The irony is that the people most affected by this are the people who need it most! It is a fact that the last Labour government widened the gap between the haves and the have nots - even a Labour supporter must admit that is ridiculous![/p][/quote]Inherited the best economy? Thatcher had sold anything that had not been nailed down and then lost most of the money made on 16 September, 1992 on Black Wednesday. All of the nationalised industries sold off to give a 'one off' boost to her purse. She should have taken heed of the story of 'The goose that laid the golden egg.' She killed a whole flock of them, and squandered the proceeds. Tell Me, WHAT HAVE WE GOT TO SHOW FOR ALL THE MILLIONS SHE RAISED BY ALL OF THOSE SELL-OFFS?[/p][/quote]Thatcher had sold anything that had not been nailed down and then lost most of the money made on 16 September, 1992 on Black Wednesday. . You cant blame Black Wednesday on the Tories. Even Labour were in Favour of entering the sterling into the ERM. Also shows how well the economy recovered in a short space of time under the Tories until Labour got their grubby little hands on it in 1997. The Salv

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good-gosh says...
10:34am Fri 30 Mar 12

I don’t know about golden geese, except from the socialist fables, but I do know about the bees who make all the honey and the wasps who think honey should be shared with them.

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The Music Man says...
11:15am Fri 30 Mar 12

Idiots

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George4th says...
11:30am Fri 30 Mar 12

good-gosh wrote:
I don’t know about golden geese, except from the socialist fables, but I do know about the bees who make all the honey and the wasps who think honey should be shared with them.

Excellent!

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bigfella777 says...
12:20pm Fri 30 Mar 12

Saddos the lot of ya.

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Linesman says...
12:43pm Fri 30 Mar 12

The Salv wrote:

Linesman wrote:

George4th wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
George4th wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote: When George 4th is lampooning the last Labour Government he forgot to mention that Gordon Brown was also responsible for the financial meltdown in every country of the World, except perhaps China ; banks going bust in the home of capitalism the USA, house prices there dropping by 75% unemployment soaring, Greece, Italy, Spain , Portugal, Ireland, all close to going bust; even Dubai left with thousands of unsold luxury dwellings--- come on George you're letting Gordon off lightly, or is it perhaps not Gordon's fault at all but that of the greedy capitalist bankers worldwide, --- blinkered? --there's no so blind as those who will not see!
Let's just take a couple of all your inaccuracies. Greece (should never have been allowed to join EU) - The Greek government (and previous Greek governments) brought down the country, and its banks along with it, due to its finances going back many years. Italy, like Greece, is in trouble because of long-term financial mismanagement (should never have been allowed to join EU) > With regard to our ex Chancellor and Prime Minister - Gordon Brown created the Biggest CREDIT BUBBLE ever and he created the Biggest PROPERTY BUBBLE ever - both BURST!! The consequence of which is a Massive Debt caused by spending money we didn't have and borrowing more money to spend!!!! P.S. Only 4 Banks needed help, out of over 500 in London!
George, you really are 'highly selective' when picking what GB was responsible for ruining. Fact is, the financial market stopped lending banks money because they had aquired so much 'toxic' debt from places like America, Ireland etc. Banks then stopped lending to businesses and private customers. This caused a huge contraction in the housing market and business in general which in turn caused a slump. Now, how is GB single handedly responsible for that through gross negligence? The CEO of RBS was on £10M per year but apparently couldn't work out what a sack of **** 'mortgage bundles' the bank was aquiring over the pond. Let the blame rest where it belongs. And don't give me the 'lack of regulation' ****, the Tories are al;l for tearing up every and any rule book they can find in favour of 'free enterprise'.
As I stated, the Labour government created the Property Bubble and the Credit Bubble - do you wish to dispute that? > And for your information, the Labour government inherited the best economy any new government has ever inherited AND, with No Debt! > AND, for your further information, the Labour government had created a DEBT of £600 Billion and Rising BEFORE the global financial crisis!!!!!!! And that was despite selling our Gold and Raiding Pensions and numerous other ploys to get money. > The simple truth is that Labour spend without thought for the future - it is always their downfall, both at council and government level. The irony is that the people most affected by this are the people who need it most! It is a fact that the last Labour government widened the gap between the haves and the have nots - even a Labour supporter must admit that is ridiculous!
Inherited the best economy? Thatcher had sold anything that had not been nailed down and then lost most of the money made on 16 September, 1992 on Black Wednesday. All of the nationalised industries sold off to give a 'one off' boost to her purse. She should have taken heed of the story of 'The goose that laid the golden egg.' She killed a whole flock of them, and squandered the proceeds. Tell Me, WHAT HAVE WE GOT TO SHOW FOR ALL THE MILLIONS SHE RAISED BY ALL OF THOSE SELL-OFFS?
Thatcher had sold anything that had not been nailed down and then lost most of the money made on 16 September, 1992 on Black Wednesday.
.
You cant blame Black Wednesday on the Tories. Even Labour were in Favour of entering the sterling into the ERM. Also shows how well the economy recovered in a short space of time under the Tories until Labour got their grubby little hands on it in 1997.

If you are going to use that argument to support your beloved Tories, then you have to blame them for the current state of the economy, because they supported Labour's bail out of banks, building societies and councils that had invested in Icelandic Banks.

It is the Tories that screwed up on Black Wednesday.

They did it all on their own.

They created their own crisis, while the rest of the world were going along quite nicely, thank you.

[quote][p][bold]The Salv[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: When George 4th is lampooning the last Labour Government he forgot to mention that Gordon Brown was also responsible for the financial meltdown in every country of the World, except perhaps China ; banks going bust in the home of capitalism the USA, house prices there dropping by 75% unemployment soaring, Greece, Italy, Spain , Portugal, Ireland, all close to going bust; even Dubai left with thousands of unsold luxury dwellings--- come on George you're letting Gordon off lightly, or is it perhaps not Gordon's fault at all but that of the greedy capitalist bankers worldwide, --- blinkered? --there's no so blind as those who will not see![/p][/quote]Let's just take a couple of all your inaccuracies. Greece (should never have been allowed to join EU) - The Greek government (and previous Greek governments) brought down the country, and its banks along with it, due to its finances going back many years. Italy, like Greece, is in trouble because of long-term financial mismanagement (should never have been allowed to join EU) > With regard to our ex Chancellor and Prime Minister - Gordon Brown created the Biggest CREDIT BUBBLE ever and he created the Biggest PROPERTY BUBBLE ever - both BURST!! The consequence of which is a Massive Debt caused by spending money we didn't have and borrowing more money to spend!!!! P.S. Only 4 Banks needed help, out of over 500 in London![/p][/quote]George, you really are 'highly selective' when picking what GB was responsible for ruining. Fact is, the financial market stopped lending banks money because they had aquired so much 'toxic' debt from places like America, Ireland etc. Banks then stopped lending to businesses and private customers. This caused a huge contraction in the housing market and business in general which in turn caused a slump. Now, how is GB single handedly responsible for that through gross negligence? The CEO of RBS was on £10M per year but apparently couldn't work out what a sack of **** 'mortgage bundles' the bank was aquiring over the pond. Let the blame rest where it belongs. And don't give me the 'lack of regulation' ****, the Tories are al;l for tearing up every and any rule book they can find in favour of 'free enterprise'.[/p][/quote]As I stated, the Labour government created the Property Bubble and the Credit Bubble - do you wish to dispute that? > And for your information, the Labour government inherited the best economy any new government has ever inherited AND, with No Debt! > AND, for your further information, the Labour government had created a DEBT of £600 Billion and Rising BEFORE the global financial crisis!!!!!!! And that was despite selling our Gold and Raiding Pensions and numerous other ploys to get money. > The simple truth is that Labour spend without thought for the future - it is always their downfall, both at council and government level. The irony is that the people most affected by this are the people who need it most! It is a fact that the last Labour government widened the gap between the haves and the have nots - even a Labour supporter must admit that is ridiculous![/p][/quote]Inherited the best economy? Thatcher had sold anything that had not been nailed down and then lost most of the money made on 16 September, 1992 on Black Wednesday. All of the nationalised industries sold off to give a 'one off' boost to her purse. She should have taken heed of the story of 'The goose that laid the golden egg.' She killed a whole flock of them, and squandered the proceeds. Tell Me, WHAT HAVE WE GOT TO SHOW FOR ALL THE MILLIONS SHE RAISED BY ALL OF THOSE SELL-OFFS?[/p][/quote]Thatcher had sold anything that had not been nailed down and then lost most of the money made on 16 September, 1992 on Black Wednesday. . You cant blame Black Wednesday on the Tories. Even Labour were in Favour of entering the sterling into the ERM. Also shows how well the economy recovered in a short space of time under the Tories until Labour got their grubby little hands on it in 1997.[/p][/quote]If you are going to use that argument to support your beloved Tories, then you have to blame them for the current state of the economy, because they supported Labour's bail out of banks, building societies and councils that had invested in Icelandic Banks. It is the Tories that screwed up on Black Wednesday. They did it all on their own. They created their own crisis, while the rest of the world were going along quite nicely, thank you. Linesman

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peter sowerby says...
1:02pm Fri 30 Mar 12

Drivers queuing for petrol during non strike should be issued with a numbered ticket IDIOT 1.2. 3 etc.

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George4th says...
1:19pm Fri 30 Mar 12

I have nothing further to say. I just wanted to post the 100th comment!
Have a Fun Day!

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ssnaked23 says...
1:24pm Fri 30 Mar 12

George4th wrote:
I have nothing further to say. I just wanted to post the 100th comment! Have a Fun Day!

Well said to Peter sowerby at least he's talking about the petrol rather than political history and I like the fact that mine is 101 which is the room where all the political comments should be shoved!!

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mellowdude says...
4:16pm Fri 30 Mar 12

peter sowerby wrote:
Drivers queuing for petrol during non strike should be issued with a numbered ticket IDIOT 1.2. 3 etc.

apart from the people that actually need the fuel...

p.s. one week ago, two weeks ago and since the turn of the 21st century no doubt, people have queued for fuel. Just like people queue for food in the supermarkets during non strikes.

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thinklikealocal says...
6:58pm Fri 30 Mar 12

good-gosh wrote:
I don’t know about golden geese, except from the socialist fables, but I do know about the bees who make all the honey and the wasps who think honey should be shared with them.

Which socialist fables are those? Idiot.

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Linesman says...
7:40pm Fri 30 Mar 12

good-gosh wrote:
I don’t know about golden geese, except from the socialist fables, but I do know about the bees who make all the honey and the wasps who think honey should be shared with them.

So you know about the bees who make all the honey and the wasps who think the honey should be shared.

As a pensioner who worked all his life and never had any hand-outs, I now find that the small bit of honey that I have worked for is being reduced so that millionaires can have a bit more, thanks to the top rate of tax being reduced.

Pity you don't know about the golden goose. I guess you must be a product of the Tory education system.

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Minger1 says...
4:44pm Sat 31 Mar 12

i am so glad i got rid of my car 4 years ago, i walk to shirley when i need to go, my other half walks everywhere around Southampton area, even walks to Romsey and Eastleigh, he had Cancer 3 years ago but still walks.
my neighbour is buying a car over 5 years and her fella drives it, neither work, but he is always out driving she even took her daughter out of school to go to the beach on wednesday, which i had an argument with her over it, but thats a different story, i think they should only let people have a limited amount that do not need petrol for work,
also people should not rely on their cars so much it is just lazy.
i think it was Cameron that start the petrol panic.

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