New £25m hotel at Ocean Village set for permission to be built

Daily Echo: Computer generated image of the development which will include up to eight restaurants. Computer generated image of the development which will include up to eight restaurants.

THIS is the stunning £25m luxury hotel on Southampton’s waterfront that is set to be given the go-ahead next week, the Daily Echo can reveal.

The super-yacht-inspired hotel development would be the final piece in the jigsaw to transform Ocean Village into a rival to Portsmouth’s Gunwharf Quays.

The 76-bedroom hotel and spa, which will be of a four or five-star standard, will jut out into the marina and boast a champagne roof terrace and a restaurant. Twelve luxury duplex flats will sit on top of the hotel.

Another 82 flats will be built up to ten storeys high next door over a mix of shops, cafes, restaurants and offices.

Bosses at MDL Marin-as, which has drawn up the scheme dubbed Southampton Harbour Hotel, want to bring in a Michelin-starred chef to set up one of the restaurants.

Earlier plans for a 13-storey 224-bedroom hotel were granted in 2008 but the scheme failed to progress due to the economic downturn.

The new scheme will complement a £74m plan by Allied Developments, half owned by the boss of the Carphone Warehouse Charles Dunstone, for three nearby towers of 300 flats and up to eight restaurants. One of the towers would become the city’s tallest building rising more than 260ft.

Councillors gave the go-ahead for that scheme in January.

Eamonn Feeney, managing director of MDL Marinas Group, said: “We see Ocean Village becoming the new waterfront destination for Southampton, to rival Gunwharf Quays.”

Ocean Village bosses have already beat Portsmouth and other rivals to host the departure and return in July of the Clipper round-the-world yacht race.

Councillors will be asked to approve the hotel plans next Tuesday.

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12:40pm Tue 10 Apr 12

Pobinr says...

"The super-yacht-inspired hotel development would be the final piece in the jigsaw to transform Ocean Village into a rival to Portsmouth’s Gunwharf Quays"

But Gunwharf Quays consists of shops & waterside restaurants which is what we really need in Southampton.
Which is precisely not what this Hotel offering, apart from the one expensive restaurant in the roof!
It's yet more flats & another hotel. Very dissapointing.
"The super-yacht-inspired hotel development would be the final piece in the jigsaw to transform Ocean Village into a rival to Portsmouth’s Gunwharf Quays" But Gunwharf Quays consists of shops & waterside restaurants which is what we really need in Southampton. Which is precisely not what this Hotel offering, apart from the one expensive restaurant in the roof! It's yet more flats & another hotel. Very dissapointing. Pobinr

1:16pm Tue 10 Apr 12

simon101 says...

Pray tell me what you would have Pobinr? The overall development has mixed use shops etc. We now have Hotels, shops, museums, a couple of cinemas, flats, casino, and offices all in the area. Go on share us your thoughts. Dont go there with the ice rink. Personally I'm glad Southampton is moving in the right direction, not just on the football pitch.
Pray tell me what you would have Pobinr? The overall development has mixed use shops etc. We now have Hotels, shops, museums, a couple of cinemas, flats, casino, and offices all in the area. Go on share us your thoughts. Dont go there with the ice rink. Personally I'm glad Southampton is moving in the right direction, not just on the football pitch. simon101

1:20pm Tue 10 Apr 12

sotonbusdriver says...

And having a wonderful view to the EAST of Woolston water treatment centre. To the North a series of unfinished buildings looking little Beirut on a good day.
And having a wonderful view to the EAST of Woolston water treatment centre. To the North a series of unfinished buildings looking little Beirut on a good day. sotonbusdriver

1:30pm Tue 10 Apr 12

George4th says...

simon101 wrote:
Pray tell me what you would have Pobinr? The overall development has mixed use shops etc. We now have Hotels, shops, museums, a couple of cinemas, flats, casino, and offices all in the area. Go on share us your thoughts. Dont go there with the ice rink. Personally I'm glad Southampton is moving in the right direction, not just on the football pitch.
I totally agree with you. The City of Southampton is on the UP and we citizens of the City of Southampton should celebrate our forward progress. We can all see the new projects in place and we are aware of projects in the pipe line. The City of Southampton is starting to get its pride back.........
[quote][p][bold]simon101[/bold] wrote: Pray tell me what you would have Pobinr? The overall development has mixed use shops etc. We now have Hotels, shops, museums, a couple of cinemas, flats, casino, and offices all in the area. Go on share us your thoughts. Dont go there with the ice rink. Personally I'm glad Southampton is moving in the right direction, not just on the football pitch.[/p][/quote]I totally agree with you. The City of Southampton is on the UP and we citizens of the City of Southampton should celebrate our forward progress. We can all see the new projects in place and we are aware of projects in the pipe line. The City of Southampton is starting to get its pride back......... George4th

1:50pm Tue 10 Apr 12

henry2* says...

Agreed that Southampton is proud south coast city and has really started to take shape in the past 5 years so. I think whoever wrote this got a little carried away as Ocean village is mainly a place to dine, not to shop.. Southampton is planning to build the Watermark to rival the outdoor shopping complex of Gunwharf quays and i reckon it'll succeed
Agreed that Southampton is proud south coast city and has really started to take shape in the past 5 years so. I think whoever wrote this got a little carried away as Ocean village is mainly a place to dine, not to shop.. Southampton is planning to build the Watermark to rival the outdoor shopping complex of Gunwharf quays and i reckon it'll succeed henry2*

2:42pm Tue 10 Apr 12

Hardy Lass says...

Southampton is on the up?

Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling-

Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything-

Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?
Southampton is on the up? Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling- Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything- Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom? Hardy Lass

2:54pm Tue 10 Apr 12

George4th says...

Hardy Lass wrote:
Southampton is on the up?

Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling-

Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything-

Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?
The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it!
>
May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!!
[quote][p][bold]Hardy Lass[/bold] wrote: Southampton is on the up? Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling- Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything- Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?[/p][/quote]The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it! > May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!! George4th

3:11pm Tue 10 Apr 12

owen_thesaints says...

George4th wrote:
Hardy Lass wrote:
Southampton is on the up?

Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling-

Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything-

Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?
The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it!
>
May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!!
Would that be the plans that include the 'Railway Quarter' with the public area etc. south of the Station, i.e. where there are four lanes of traffic now?
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hardy Lass[/bold] wrote: Southampton is on the up? Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling- Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything- Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?[/p][/quote]The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it! > May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!![/p][/quote]Would that be the plans that include the 'Railway Quarter' with the public area etc. south of the Station, i.e. where there are four lanes of traffic now? owen_thesaints

3:32pm Tue 10 Apr 12

Over the Edge says...

George4th wrote:
Hardy Lass wrote:
Southampton is on the up?

Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling-

Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything-

Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?
The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it!
>
May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!!
You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail.

George4th aka Royston Smith
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hardy Lass[/bold] wrote: Southampton is on the up? Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling- Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything- Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?[/p][/quote]The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it! > May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!![/p][/quote]You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail. George4th aka Royston Smith Over the Edge

3:54pm Tue 10 Apr 12

joenice1 says...

Not sure how anyone could not want Royston Smith, he gets things done and has made huge improvements to the city.

Labour on here having a go at him, crazy.

And yes the wage bill needed to come down, but the sure starts are still open which labour councils across the country have closed, I understand to generate a bad feeling towards the torys, when they have to make cuts due to silly spending by the previous government.

I sometimes just wish that party politics and bias would not get in the way of city pride and the recognision of a job well done.
Not sure how anyone could not want Royston Smith, he gets things done and has made huge improvements to the city. Labour on here having a go at him, crazy. And yes the wage bill needed to come down, but the sure starts are still open which labour councils across the country have closed, I understand to generate a bad feeling towards the torys, when they have to make cuts due to silly spending by the previous government. I sometimes just wish that party politics and bias would not get in the way of city pride and the recognision of a job well done. joenice1

4:18pm Tue 10 Apr 12

Shoong says...

Over the Edge wrote:
George4th wrote:
Hardy Lass wrote:
Southampton is on the up?

Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling-

Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything-

Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?
The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it!
>
May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!!
You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail.

George4th aka Royston Smith
What a complete bulb you are, do grow up.
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hardy Lass[/bold] wrote: Southampton is on the up? Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling- Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything- Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?[/p][/quote]The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it! > May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!![/p][/quote]You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail. George4th aka Royston Smith[/p][/quote]What a complete bulb you are, do grow up. Shoong

4:39pm Tue 10 Apr 12

loosehead says...

Over the Edge wrote:
George4th wrote:
Hardy Lass wrote:
Southampton is on the up?

Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling-

Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything-

Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?
The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it!
>
May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!!
You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail.

George4th aka Royston Smith
Well after seeing this picture I think it's great.
As for Labour getting elected are you so blinkered?
Improved working practices,1-10 refuse jobs going,amalgamation with Eastleigh refuse services & more job losses.then we get a leaflet stating job creation we get a U turn on the refuse jobs & we hear of 1,500 new homes where?
It was Labour who approved the Vospers Woolston site development with high impact housing it was the Tories who cut it back yet a Labour councillor who went on marches protesting against it?
Yet you think we're going to vote for them?
I hope we're not that stupid!
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hardy Lass[/bold] wrote: Southampton is on the up? Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling- Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything- Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?[/p][/quote]The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it! > May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!![/p][/quote]You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail. George4th aka Royston Smith[/p][/quote]Well after seeing this picture I think it's great. As for Labour getting elected are you so blinkered? Improved working practices,1-10 refuse jobs going,amalgamation with Eastleigh refuse services & more job losses.then we get a leaflet stating job creation we get a U turn on the refuse jobs & we hear of 1,500 new homes where? It was Labour who approved the Vospers Woolston site development with high impact housing it was the Tories who cut it back yet a Labour councillor who went on marches protesting against it? Yet you think we're going to vote for them? I hope we're not that stupid! loosehead

4:39pm Tue 10 Apr 12

loosehead says...

Over the Edge wrote:
George4th wrote:
Hardy Lass wrote:
Southampton is on the up?

Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling-

Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything-

Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?
The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it!
>
May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!!
You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail.

George4th aka Royston Smith
Well after seeing this picture I think it's great.
As for Labour getting elected are you so blinkered?
Improved working practices,1-10 refuse jobs going,amalgamation with Eastleigh refuse services & more job losses.then we get a leaflet stating job creation we get a U turn on the refuse jobs & we hear of 1,500 new homes where?
It was Labour who approved the Vospers Woolston site development with high impact housing it was the Tories who cut it back yet a Labour councillor who went on marches protesting against it?
Yet you think we're going to vote for them?
I hope we're not that stupid!
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hardy Lass[/bold] wrote: Southampton is on the up? Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling- Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything- Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?[/p][/quote]The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it! > May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!![/p][/quote]You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail. George4th aka Royston Smith[/p][/quote]Well after seeing this picture I think it's great. As for Labour getting elected are you so blinkered? Improved working practices,1-10 refuse jobs going,amalgamation with Eastleigh refuse services & more job losses.then we get a leaflet stating job creation we get a U turn on the refuse jobs & we hear of 1,500 new homes where? It was Labour who approved the Vospers Woolston site development with high impact housing it was the Tories who cut it back yet a Labour councillor who went on marches protesting against it? Yet you think we're going to vote for them? I hope we're not that stupid! loosehead

4:48pm Tue 10 Apr 12

southy says...

More for rich out siders and nothing for the locals
More for rich out siders and nothing for the locals southy

6:15pm Tue 10 Apr 12

SOULJACKER says...

Sheeesh, don't you lot go on, hahaha :P
Sheeesh, don't you lot go on, hahaha :P SOULJACKER

6:39pm Tue 10 Apr 12

Over the Edge says...

Shoong wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
George4th wrote:
Hardy Lass wrote:
Southampton is on the up?

Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling-

Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything-

Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?
The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it!
>
May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!!
You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail.

George4th aka Royston Smith
What a complete bulb you are, do grow up.
Grow Up?

I'm not the one name calling, I have an opinion, which I am entitled too, you have your opinion which your entitled too.

We may not agree but we are entitled to have our opinions.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hardy Lass[/bold] wrote: Southampton is on the up? Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling- Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything- Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?[/p][/quote]The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it! > May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!![/p][/quote]You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail. George4th aka Royston Smith[/p][/quote]What a complete bulb you are, do grow up.[/p][/quote]Grow Up? I'm not the one name calling, I have an opinion, which I am entitled too, you have your opinion which your entitled too. We may not agree but we are entitled to have our opinions. Over the Edge

6:49pm Tue 10 Apr 12

Over the Edge says...

loosehead wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
George4th wrote:
Hardy Lass wrote:
Southampton is on the up?

Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling-

Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything-

Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?
The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it!
>
May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!!
You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail.

George4th aka Royston Smith
Well after seeing this picture I think it's great.
As for Labour getting elected are you so blinkered?
Improved working practices,1-10 refuse jobs going,amalgamation with Eastleigh refuse services & more job losses.then we get a leaflet stating job creation we get a U turn on the refuse jobs & we hear of 1,500 new homes where?
It was Labour who approved the Vospers Woolston site development with high impact housing it was the Tories who cut it back yet a Labour councillor who went on marches protesting against it?
Yet you think we're going to vote for them?
I hope we're not that stupid!
It wasn't the Tories that pulled back the housing, it was the lack of investment that forced the Tories to pull the number of houses, ask Royston.

The American yacht/marine company that was supposed to invest in the site pulled out, Royston will tell you the reasons why.

I said that Royston and merry men would fail to elected, I didn't say Labour would.

I believe the city is heading for hung chamber (no overall control) forcing partnerships between the 3 main parties and the independents, which I believe will only be good for the city.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hardy Lass[/bold] wrote: Southampton is on the up? Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling- Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything- Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?[/p][/quote]The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it! > May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!![/p][/quote]You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail. George4th aka Royston Smith[/p][/quote]Well after seeing this picture I think it's great. As for Labour getting elected are you so blinkered? Improved working practices,1-10 refuse jobs going,amalgamation with Eastleigh refuse services & more job losses.then we get a leaflet stating job creation we get a U turn on the refuse jobs & we hear of 1,500 new homes where? It was Labour who approved the Vospers Woolston site development with high impact housing it was the Tories who cut it back yet a Labour councillor who went on marches protesting against it? Yet you think we're going to vote for them? I hope we're not that stupid![/p][/quote]It wasn't the Tories that pulled back the housing, it was the lack of investment that forced the Tories to pull the number of houses, ask Royston. The American yacht/marine company that was supposed to invest in the site pulled out, Royston will tell you the reasons why. I said that Royston and merry men would fail to elected, I didn't say Labour would. I believe the city is heading for hung chamber (no overall control) forcing partnerships between the 3 main parties and the independents, which I believe will only be good for the city. Over the Edge

8:49pm Tue 10 Apr 12

mlt burger says...

Personally I have visited Gunwharf Quay more times in the last few years than I have been to Ocean Village even though it is only a 10/15 minute drive away.

I think any develpement is good for the city as it generates employment.

However that is seperate to WANTING to visit somewhere.

When they knocked down the old Canutes Pavillion we were promised shops, bars and restaurants. The cinema was already there. But what we have got?... a housing estate with two pubs and a Tesco express. (Two pubs I might add that are not quite near enough to the water and in permenat shade due to the flats). Not exactly going to get the tourist pulses racing!

Will the Vosper site be any different? I predict more flats and houses with a token pub.

Hotel and flats as I said earlier are fine in generating employment, but I'm afraid Gunwharf is everything Ocean Village should have been. If you think I'm wrong, take your clipboard down to the waterfront in front of the pubs at Ocean Village and count the footfall compared to gunwharf....its' dead.

Hopefully our town planners will have learnt their lesson at Vospers, but I doubt it.
Personally I have visited Gunwharf Quay more times in the last few years than I have been to Ocean Village even though it is only a 10/15 minute drive away. I think any develpement is good for the city as it generates employment. However that is seperate to WANTING to visit somewhere. When they knocked down the old Canutes Pavillion we were promised shops, bars and restaurants. The cinema was already there. But what we have got?... a housing estate with two pubs and a Tesco express. (Two pubs I might add that are not quite near enough to the water and in permenat shade due to the flats). Not exactly going to get the tourist pulses racing! Will the Vosper site be any different? I predict more flats and houses with a token pub. Hotel and flats as I said earlier are fine in generating employment, but I'm afraid Gunwharf is everything Ocean Village should have been. If you think I'm wrong, take your clipboard down to the waterfront in front of the pubs at Ocean Village and count the footfall compared to gunwharf....its' dead. Hopefully our town planners will have learnt their lesson at Vospers, but I doubt it. mlt burger

9:25pm Tue 10 Apr 12

loosehead says...

Over the Edge wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
George4th wrote:
Hardy Lass wrote:
Southampton is on the up?

Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling-

Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything-

Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?
The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it!
>
May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!!
You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail.

George4th aka Royston Smith
Well after seeing this picture I think it's great.
As for Labour getting elected are you so blinkered?
Improved working practices,1-10 refuse jobs going,amalgamation with Eastleigh refuse services & more job losses.then we get a leaflet stating job creation we get a U turn on the refuse jobs & we hear of 1,500 new homes where?
It was Labour who approved the Vospers Woolston site development with high impact housing it was the Tories who cut it back yet a Labour councillor who went on marches protesting against it?
Yet you think we're going to vote for them?
I hope we're not that stupid!
It wasn't the Tories that pulled back the housing, it was the lack of investment that forced the Tories to pull the number of houses, ask Royston.

The American yacht/marine company that was supposed to invest in the site pulled out, Royston will tell you the reasons why.

I said that Royston and merry men would fail to elected, I didn't say Labour would.

I believe the city is heading for hung chamber (no overall control) forcing partnerships between the 3 main parties and the independents, which I believe will only be good for the city.
I voted Blue & I think going into this coalition was wrong for my party would have been wrong for Labour & feel it's wrong that a party that no one voted for thinks it has the power to run the country.
so I definitely wouldn't want a coalition here in Southampton I remember The Lab/Lib coalition what a mess
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hardy Lass[/bold] wrote: Southampton is on the up? Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling- Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything- Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?[/p][/quote]The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it! > May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!![/p][/quote]You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail. George4th aka Royston Smith[/p][/quote]Well after seeing this picture I think it's great. As for Labour getting elected are you so blinkered? Improved working practices,1-10 refuse jobs going,amalgamation with Eastleigh refuse services & more job losses.then we get a leaflet stating job creation we get a U turn on the refuse jobs & we hear of 1,500 new homes where? It was Labour who approved the Vospers Woolston site development with high impact housing it was the Tories who cut it back yet a Labour councillor who went on marches protesting against it? Yet you think we're going to vote for them? I hope we're not that stupid![/p][/quote]It wasn't the Tories that pulled back the housing, it was the lack of investment that forced the Tories to pull the number of houses, ask Royston. The American yacht/marine company that was supposed to invest in the site pulled out, Royston will tell you the reasons why. I said that Royston and merry men would fail to elected, I didn't say Labour would. I believe the city is heading for hung chamber (no overall control) forcing partnerships between the 3 main parties and the independents, which I believe will only be good for the city.[/p][/quote]I voted Blue & I think going into this coalition was wrong for my party would have been wrong for Labour & feel it's wrong that a party that no one voted for thinks it has the power to run the country. so I definitely wouldn't want a coalition here in Southampton I remember The Lab/Lib coalition what a mess loosehead

9:29pm Tue 10 Apr 12

loosehead says...

mlt burger wrote:
Personally I have visited Gunwharf Quay more times in the last few years than I have been to Ocean Village even though it is only a 10/15 minute drive away.

I think any develpement is good for the city as it generates employment.

However that is seperate to WANTING to visit somewhere.

When they knocked down the old Canutes Pavillion we were promised shops, bars and restaurants. The cinema was already there. But what we have got?... a housing estate with two pubs and a Tesco express. (Two pubs I might add that are not quite near enough to the water and in permenat shade due to the flats). Not exactly going to get the tourist pulses racing!

Will the Vosper site be any different? I predict more flats and houses with a token pub.

Hotel and flats as I said earlier are fine in generating employment, but I'm afraid Gunwharf is everything Ocean Village should have been. If you think I'm wrong, take your clipboard down to the waterfront in front of the pubs at Ocean Village and count the footfall compared to gunwharf....its' dead.

Hopefully our town planners will have learnt their lesson at Vospers, but I doubt it.
I remember the Delta Belle's Jazz week. I remember the pub upstairs with it's live music.
I can't believe it went.
Is it all flats now?
maybe if Labour gets voted in you'll get 1,500 flats for the council tenants built there?
all those young kids being allowed to run free right next to the waters edge sounds like an ideal place for that type of education don't think?
[quote][p][bold]mlt burger[/bold] wrote: Personally I have visited Gunwharf Quay more times in the last few years than I have been to Ocean Village even though it is only a 10/15 minute drive away. I think any develpement is good for the city as it generates employment. However that is seperate to WANTING to visit somewhere. When they knocked down the old Canutes Pavillion we were promised shops, bars and restaurants. The cinema was already there. But what we have got?... a housing estate with two pubs and a Tesco express. (Two pubs I might add that are not quite near enough to the water and in permenat shade due to the flats). Not exactly going to get the tourist pulses racing! Will the Vosper site be any different? I predict more flats and houses with a token pub. Hotel and flats as I said earlier are fine in generating employment, but I'm afraid Gunwharf is everything Ocean Village should have been. If you think I'm wrong, take your clipboard down to the waterfront in front of the pubs at Ocean Village and count the footfall compared to gunwharf....its' dead. Hopefully our town planners will have learnt their lesson at Vospers, but I doubt it.[/p][/quote]I remember the Delta Belle's Jazz week. I remember the pub upstairs with it's live music. I can't believe it went. Is it all flats now? maybe if Labour gets voted in you'll get 1,500 flats for the council tenants built there? all those young kids being allowed to run free right next to the waters edge sounds like an ideal place for that type of education don't think? loosehead

6:48am Wed 11 Apr 12

Hardy Lass says...

Sack your councillors who are on your planning committees for starters, no matter what politics they support!
Your town planners need scrutinizing too- who gives the nod? who shakes the hand?
Politics should never ever be involved with planning-

The ex-Vosper site now under construction , has obliterated the character of a valuable waterfront asset for the community- straight away!

The roads will be a nightmare where once hundreds of Vosper T. workers rode their bicycles.

Think about it , please.
Sack your councillors who are on your planning committees for starters, no matter what politics they support! Your town planners need scrutinizing too- who gives the nod? who shakes the hand? Politics should never ever be involved with planning- The ex-Vosper site now under construction , has obliterated the character of a valuable waterfront asset for the community- straight away! The roads will be a nightmare where once hundreds of Vosper T. workers rode their bicycles. Think about it , please. Hardy Lass

11:49am Wed 11 Apr 12

loosehead says...

Hardy Lass wrote:
Sack your councillors who are on your planning committees for starters, no matter what politics they support!
Your town planners need scrutinizing too- who gives the nod? who shakes the hand?
Politics should never ever be involved with planning-

The ex-Vosper site now under construction , has obliterated the character of a valuable waterfront asset for the community- straight away!

The roads will be a nightmare where once hundreds of Vosper T. workers rode their bicycles.

Think about it , please.
Think that site should have been a park (Spitfire Park? )
[quote][p][bold]Hardy Lass[/bold] wrote: Sack your councillors who are on your planning committees for starters, no matter what politics they support! Your town planners need scrutinizing too- who gives the nod? who shakes the hand? Politics should never ever be involved with planning- The ex-Vosper site now under construction , has obliterated the character of a valuable waterfront asset for the community- straight away! The roads will be a nightmare where once hundreds of Vosper T. workers rode their bicycles. Think about it , please.[/p][/quote]Think that site should have been a park (Spitfire Park? ) loosehead

12:09pm Wed 11 Apr 12

southy says...

loosehead wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
George4th wrote:
Hardy Lass wrote:
Southampton is on the up?

Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling-

Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything-

Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?
The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it!
>
May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!!
You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail.

George4th aka Royston Smith
Well after seeing this picture I think it's great.
As for Labour getting elected are you so blinkered?
Improved working practices,1-10 refuse jobs going,amalgamation with Eastleigh refuse services & more job losses.then we get a leaflet stating job creation we get a U turn on the refuse jobs & we hear of 1,500 new homes where?
It was Labour who approved the Vospers Woolston site development with high impact housing it was the Tories who cut it back yet a Labour councillor who went on marches protesting against it?
Yet you think we're going to vote for them?
I hope we're not that stupid!
It wasn't the Tories that pulled back the housing, it was the lack of investment that forced the Tories to pull the number of houses, ask Royston.

The American yacht/marine company that was supposed to invest in the site pulled out, Royston will tell you the reasons why.

I said that Royston and merry men would fail to elected, I didn't say Labour would.

I believe the city is heading for hung chamber (no overall control) forcing partnerships between the 3 main parties and the independents, which I believe will only be good for the city.
I voted Blue & I think going into this coalition was wrong for my party would have been wrong for Labour & feel it's wrong that a party that no one voted for thinks it has the power to run the country.
so I definitely wouldn't want a coalition here in Southampton I remember The Lab/Lib coalition what a mess
Labour will be in council power come May, Labour done what it needed to last year and that was to maintain the same number of seats, Labour last year had the majority of wards up for election, this year its the Torys turn to have the majority of wards up for election and 2 off them was only paper candidates which they won because of the revolt against Labour, this year there is a revolt against the Torys, how big of a revolt that will been seen on May the 4th when you will get your answer.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hardy Lass[/bold] wrote: Southampton is on the up? Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling- Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything- Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?[/p][/quote]The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it! > May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!![/p][/quote]You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail. George4th aka Royston Smith[/p][/quote]Well after seeing this picture I think it's great. As for Labour getting elected are you so blinkered? Improved working practices,1-10 refuse jobs going,amalgamation with Eastleigh refuse services & more job losses.then we get a leaflet stating job creation we get a U turn on the refuse jobs & we hear of 1,500 new homes where? It was Labour who approved the Vospers Woolston site development with high impact housing it was the Tories who cut it back yet a Labour councillor who went on marches protesting against it? Yet you think we're going to vote for them? I hope we're not that stupid![/p][/quote]It wasn't the Tories that pulled back the housing, it was the lack of investment that forced the Tories to pull the number of houses, ask Royston. The American yacht/marine company that was supposed to invest in the site pulled out, Royston will tell you the reasons why. I said that Royston and merry men would fail to elected, I didn't say Labour would. I believe the city is heading for hung chamber (no overall control) forcing partnerships between the 3 main parties and the independents, which I believe will only be good for the city.[/p][/quote]I voted Blue & I think going into this coalition was wrong for my party would have been wrong for Labour & feel it's wrong that a party that no one voted for thinks it has the power to run the country. so I definitely wouldn't want a coalition here in Southampton I remember The Lab/Lib coalition what a mess[/p][/quote]Labour will be in council power come May, Labour done what it needed to last year and that was to maintain the same number of seats, Labour last year had the majority of wards up for election, this year its the Torys turn to have the majority of wards up for election and 2 off them was only paper candidates which they won because of the revolt against Labour, this year there is a revolt against the Torys, how big of a revolt that will been seen on May the 4th when you will get your answer. southy

12:58pm Wed 11 Apr 12

George4th says...

southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
George4th wrote:
Hardy Lass wrote:
Southampton is on the up?

Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling-

Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything-

Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?
The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it!
>
May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!!
You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail.

George4th aka Royston Smith
Well after seeing this picture I think it's great.
As for Labour getting elected are you so blinkered?
Improved working practices,1-10 refuse jobs going,amalgamation with Eastleigh refuse services & more job losses.then we get a leaflet stating job creation we get a U turn on the refuse jobs & we hear of 1,500 new homes where?
It was Labour who approved the Vospers Woolston site development with high impact housing it was the Tories who cut it back yet a Labour councillor who went on marches protesting against it?
Yet you think we're going to vote for them?
I hope we're not that stupid!
It wasn't the Tories that pulled back the housing, it was the lack of investment that forced the Tories to pull the number of houses, ask Royston.

The American yacht/marine company that was supposed to invest in the site pulled out, Royston will tell you the reasons why.

I said that Royston and merry men would fail to elected, I didn't say Labour would.

I believe the city is heading for hung chamber (no overall control) forcing partnerships between the 3 main parties and the independents, which I believe will only be good for the city.
I voted Blue & I think going into this coalition was wrong for my party would have been wrong for Labour & feel it's wrong that a party that no one voted for thinks it has the power to run the country.
so I definitely wouldn't want a coalition here in Southampton I remember The Lab/Lib coalition what a mess
Labour will be in council power come May, Labour done what it needed to last year and that was to maintain the same number of seats, Labour last year had the majority of wards up for election, this year its the Torys turn to have the majority of wards up for election and 2 off them was only paper candidates which they won because of the revolt against Labour, this year there is a revolt against the Torys, how big of a revolt that will been seen on May the 4th when you will get your answer.
If we lose the current council it will be a very sad day for the City of Southampton. For the first time in a very long time, we have a council who are modernising the City of Southampton and giving the citizens a City to be proud of. Why on earth would you want to throw it away?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hardy Lass[/bold] wrote: Southampton is on the up? Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling- Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything- Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?[/p][/quote]The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it! > May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!![/p][/quote]You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail. George4th aka Royston Smith[/p][/quote]Well after seeing this picture I think it's great. As for Labour getting elected are you so blinkered? Improved working practices,1-10 refuse jobs going,amalgamation with Eastleigh refuse services & more job losses.then we get a leaflet stating job creation we get a U turn on the refuse jobs & we hear of 1,500 new homes where? It was Labour who approved the Vospers Woolston site development with high impact housing it was the Tories who cut it back yet a Labour councillor who went on marches protesting against it? Yet you think we're going to vote for them? I hope we're not that stupid![/p][/quote]It wasn't the Tories that pulled back the housing, it was the lack of investment that forced the Tories to pull the number of houses, ask Royston. The American yacht/marine company that was supposed to invest in the site pulled out, Royston will tell you the reasons why. I said that Royston and merry men would fail to elected, I didn't say Labour would. I believe the city is heading for hung chamber (no overall control) forcing partnerships between the 3 main parties and the independents, which I believe will only be good for the city.[/p][/quote]I voted Blue & I think going into this coalition was wrong for my party would have been wrong for Labour & feel it's wrong that a party that no one voted for thinks it has the power to run the country. so I definitely wouldn't want a coalition here in Southampton I remember The Lab/Lib coalition what a mess[/p][/quote]Labour will be in council power come May, Labour done what it needed to last year and that was to maintain the same number of seats, Labour last year had the majority of wards up for election, this year its the Torys turn to have the majority of wards up for election and 2 off them was only paper candidates which they won because of the revolt against Labour, this year there is a revolt against the Torys, how big of a revolt that will been seen on May the 4th when you will get your answer.[/p][/quote]If we lose the current council it will be a very sad day for the City of Southampton. For the first time in a very long time, we have a council who are modernising the City of Southampton and giving the citizens a City to be proud of. Why on earth would you want to throw it away? George4th

1:11pm Wed 11 Apr 12

southy says...

George4th wrote:
southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
George4th wrote:
Hardy Lass wrote:
Southampton is on the up?

Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling-

Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything-

Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?
The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it!
>
May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!!
You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail.

George4th aka Royston Smith
Well after seeing this picture I think it's great.
As for Labour getting elected are you so blinkered?
Improved working practices,1-10 refuse jobs going,amalgamation with Eastleigh refuse services & more job losses.then we get a leaflet stating job creation we get a U turn on the refuse jobs & we hear of 1,500 new homes where?
It was Labour who approved the Vospers Woolston site development with high impact housing it was the Tories who cut it back yet a Labour councillor who went on marches protesting against it?
Yet you think we're going to vote for them?
I hope we're not that stupid!
It wasn't the Tories that pulled back the housing, it was the lack of investment that forced the Tories to pull the number of houses, ask Royston.

The American yacht/marine company that was supposed to invest in the site pulled out, Royston will tell you the reasons why.

I said that Royston and merry men would fail to elected, I didn't say Labour would.

I believe the city is heading for hung chamber (no overall control) forcing partnerships between the 3 main parties and the independents, which I believe will only be good for the city.
I voted Blue & I think going into this coalition was wrong for my party would have been wrong for Labour & feel it's wrong that a party that no one voted for thinks it has the power to run the country.
so I definitely wouldn't want a coalition here in Southampton I remember The Lab/Lib coalition what a mess
Labour will be in council power come May, Labour done what it needed to last year and that was to maintain the same number of seats, Labour last year had the majority of wards up for election, this year its the Torys turn to have the majority of wards up for election and 2 off them was only paper candidates which they won because of the revolt against Labour, this year there is a revolt against the Torys, how big of a revolt that will been seen on May the 4th when you will get your answer.
If we lose the current council it will be a very sad day for the City of Southampton. For the first time in a very long time, we have a council who are modernising the City of Southampton and giving the citizens a City to be proud of. Why on earth would you want to throw it away?
Sad for the blues but not for the reds, we have a council that is looking after the haves and pushing the have not's to the side, this council has more interest for its rich out sider friends than it do for the local people, and to be honest Labour will only be a very tiny bit better for the locals, The only real good thing about a Labour win will be the fact that Royston Smith will be replace by another just as bad as him.
Do you relise how much money this Tory council as wasted in four years of office, money that as not gone towards the city but to wealthy firms that have no connections to the city in charges.
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hardy Lass[/bold] wrote: Southampton is on the up? Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling- Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything- Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?[/p][/quote]The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it! > May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!![/p][/quote]You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail. George4th aka Royston Smith[/p][/quote]Well after seeing this picture I think it's great. As for Labour getting elected are you so blinkered? Improved working practices,1-10 refuse jobs going,amalgamation with Eastleigh refuse services & more job losses.then we get a leaflet stating job creation we get a U turn on the refuse jobs & we hear of 1,500 new homes where? It was Labour who approved the Vospers Woolston site development with high impact housing it was the Tories who cut it back yet a Labour councillor who went on marches protesting against it? Yet you think we're going to vote for them? I hope we're not that stupid![/p][/quote]It wasn't the Tories that pulled back the housing, it was the lack of investment that forced the Tories to pull the number of houses, ask Royston. The American yacht/marine company that was supposed to invest in the site pulled out, Royston will tell you the reasons why. I said that Royston and merry men would fail to elected, I didn't say Labour would. I believe the city is heading for hung chamber (no overall control) forcing partnerships between the 3 main parties and the independents, which I believe will only be good for the city.[/p][/quote]I voted Blue & I think going into this coalition was wrong for my party would have been wrong for Labour & feel it's wrong that a party that no one voted for thinks it has the power to run the country. so I definitely wouldn't want a coalition here in Southampton I remember The Lab/Lib coalition what a mess[/p][/quote]Labour will be in council power come May, Labour done what it needed to last year and that was to maintain the same number of seats, Labour last year had the majority of wards up for election, this year its the Torys turn to have the majority of wards up for election and 2 off them was only paper candidates which they won because of the revolt against Labour, this year there is a revolt against the Torys, how big of a revolt that will been seen on May the 4th when you will get your answer.[/p][/quote]If we lose the current council it will be a very sad day for the City of Southampton. For the first time in a very long time, we have a council who are modernising the City of Southampton and giving the citizens a City to be proud of. Why on earth would you want to throw it away?[/p][/quote]Sad for the blues but not for the reds, we have a council that is looking after the haves and pushing the have not's to the side, this council has more interest for its rich out sider friends than it do for the local people, and to be honest Labour will only be a very tiny bit better for the locals, The only real good thing about a Labour win will be the fact that Royston Smith will be replace by another just as bad as him. Do you relise how much money this Tory council as wasted in four years of office, money that as not gone towards the city but to wealthy firms that have no connections to the city in charges. southy

3:00pm Wed 11 Apr 12

George4th says...

southy wrote:
George4th wrote:
southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
George4th wrote:
Hardy Lass wrote:
Southampton is on the up?

Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling-

Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything-

Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?
The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it!
>
May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!!
You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail.

George4th aka Royston Smith
Well after seeing this picture I think it's great.
As for Labour getting elected are you so blinkered?
Improved working practices,1-10 refuse jobs going,amalgamation with Eastleigh refuse services & more job losses.then we get a leaflet stating job creation we get a U turn on the refuse jobs & we hear of 1,500 new homes where?
It was Labour who approved the Vospers Woolston site development with high impact housing it was the Tories who cut it back yet a Labour councillor who went on marches protesting against it?
Yet you think we're going to vote for them?
I hope we're not that stupid!
It wasn't the Tories that pulled back the housing, it was the lack of investment that forced the Tories to pull the number of houses, ask Royston.

The American yacht/marine company that was supposed to invest in the site pulled out, Royston will tell you the reasons why.

I said that Royston and merry men would fail to elected, I didn't say Labour would.

I believe the city is heading for hung chamber (no overall control) forcing partnerships between the 3 main parties and the independents, which I believe will only be good for the city.
I voted Blue & I think going into this coalition was wrong for my party would have been wrong for Labour & feel it's wrong that a party that no one voted for thinks it has the power to run the country.
so I definitely wouldn't want a coalition here in Southampton I remember The Lab/Lib coalition what a mess
Labour will be in council power come May, Labour done what it needed to last year and that was to maintain the same number of seats, Labour last year had the majority of wards up for election, this year its the Torys turn to have the majority of wards up for election and 2 off them was only paper candidates which they won because of the revolt against Labour, this year there is a revolt against the Torys, how big of a revolt that will been seen on May the 4th when you will get your answer.
If we lose the current council it will be a very sad day for the City of Southampton. For the first time in a very long time, we have a council who are modernising the City of Southampton and giving the citizens a City to be proud of. Why on earth would you want to throw it away?
Sad for the blues but not for the reds, we have a council that is looking after the haves and pushing the have not's to the side, this council has more interest for its rich out sider friends than it do for the local people, and to be honest Labour will only be a very tiny bit better for the locals, The only real good thing about a Labour win will be the fact that Royston Smith will be replace by another just as bad as him.
Do you relise how much money this Tory council as wasted in four years of office, money that as not gone towards the city but to wealthy firms that have no connections to the city in charges.
Why do you and some others get worked up about firms doing work for SCC. The Public Sector was late catching onto Outsourcing - the Private Sector has been doing it for a very long time - it's normal. If you want to have a go at people who cost the citizens of Southampton jobs, try blaming the Unions - the Unions drove all big business from Southampton.
>
This City has suffered the consequences of the Unions. Now, when we are creating the right environment to persuade businesses to invest here, you want to change the council? It doesn't matter what your politics are, it just makes sense to stick with what is working! (Unlike previous wasteful, incompetent councils who left us nothing but decay and with no money)
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hardy Lass[/bold] wrote: Southampton is on the up? Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling- Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything- Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?[/p][/quote]The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it! > May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!![/p][/quote]You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail. George4th aka Royston Smith[/p][/quote]Well after seeing this picture I think it's great. As for Labour getting elected are you so blinkered? Improved working practices,1-10 refuse jobs going,amalgamation with Eastleigh refuse services & more job losses.then we get a leaflet stating job creation we get a U turn on the refuse jobs & we hear of 1,500 new homes where? It was Labour who approved the Vospers Woolston site development with high impact housing it was the Tories who cut it back yet a Labour councillor who went on marches protesting against it? Yet you think we're going to vote for them? I hope we're not that stupid![/p][/quote]It wasn't the Tories that pulled back the housing, it was the lack of investment that forced the Tories to pull the number of houses, ask Royston. The American yacht/marine company that was supposed to invest in the site pulled out, Royston will tell you the reasons why. I said that Royston and merry men would fail to elected, I didn't say Labour would. I believe the city is heading for hung chamber (no overall control) forcing partnerships between the 3 main parties and the independents, which I believe will only be good for the city.[/p][/quote]I voted Blue & I think going into this coalition was wrong for my party would have been wrong for Labour & feel it's wrong that a party that no one voted for thinks it has the power to run the country. so I definitely wouldn't want a coalition here in Southampton I remember The Lab/Lib coalition what a mess[/p][/quote]Labour will be in council power come May, Labour done what it needed to last year and that was to maintain the same number of seats, Labour last year had the majority of wards up for election, this year its the Torys turn to have the majority of wards up for election and 2 off them was only paper candidates which they won because of the revolt against Labour, this year there is a revolt against the Torys, how big of a revolt that will been seen on May the 4th when you will get your answer.[/p][/quote]If we lose the current council it will be a very sad day for the City of Southampton. For the first time in a very long time, we have a council who are modernising the City of Southampton and giving the citizens a City to be proud of. Why on earth would you want to throw it away?[/p][/quote]Sad for the blues but not for the reds, we have a council that is looking after the haves and pushing the have not's to the side, this council has more interest for its rich out sider friends than it do for the local people, and to be honest Labour will only be a very tiny bit better for the locals, The only real good thing about a Labour win will be the fact that Royston Smith will be replace by another just as bad as him. Do you relise how much money this Tory council as wasted in four years of office, money that as not gone towards the city but to wealthy firms that have no connections to the city in charges.[/p][/quote]Why do you and some others get worked up about firms doing work for SCC. The Public Sector was late catching onto Outsourcing - the Private Sector has been doing it for a very long time - it's normal. If you want to have a go at people who cost the citizens of Southampton jobs, try blaming the Unions - the Unions drove all big business from Southampton. > This City has suffered the consequences of the Unions. Now, when we are creating the right environment to persuade businesses to invest here, you want to change the council? It doesn't matter what your politics are, it just makes sense to stick with what is working! (Unlike previous wasteful, incompetent councils who left us nothing but decay and with no money) George4th

3:41pm Wed 11 Apr 12

loosehead says...

southy wrote:
George4th wrote:
southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
George4th wrote:
Hardy Lass wrote:
Southampton is on the up?

Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling-

Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything-

Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?
The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it!
>
May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!!
You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail.

George4th aka Royston Smith
Well after seeing this picture I think it's great.
As for Labour getting elected are you so blinkered?
Improved working practices,1-10 refuse jobs going,amalgamation with Eastleigh refuse services & more job losses.then we get a leaflet stating job creation we get a U turn on the refuse jobs & we hear of 1,500 new homes where?
It was Labour who approved the Vospers Woolston site development with high impact housing it was the Tories who cut it back yet a Labour councillor who went on marches protesting against it?
Yet you think we're going to vote for them?
I hope we're not that stupid!
It wasn't the Tories that pulled back the housing, it was the lack of investment that forced the Tories to pull the number of houses, ask Royston.

The American yacht/marine company that was supposed to invest in the site pulled out, Royston will tell you the reasons why.

I said that Royston and merry men would fail to elected, I didn't say Labour would.

I believe the city is heading for hung chamber (no overall control) forcing partnerships between the 3 main parties and the independents, which I believe will only be good for the city.
I voted Blue & I think going into this coalition was wrong for my party would have been wrong for Labour & feel it's wrong that a party that no one voted for thinks it has the power to run the country.
so I definitely wouldn't want a coalition here in Southampton I remember The Lab/Lib coalition what a mess
Labour will be in council power come May, Labour done what it needed to last year and that was to maintain the same number of seats, Labour last year had the majority of wards up for election, this year its the Torys turn to have the majority of wards up for election and 2 off them was only paper candidates which they won because of the revolt against Labour, this year there is a revolt against the Torys, how big of a revolt that will been seen on May the 4th when you will get your answer.
If we lose the current council it will be a very sad day for the City of Southampton. For the first time in a very long time, we have a council who are modernising the City of Southampton and giving the citizens a City to be proud of. Why on earth would you want to throw it away?
Sad for the blues but not for the reds, we have a council that is looking after the haves and pushing the have not's to the side, this council has more interest for its rich out sider friends than it do for the local people, and to be honest Labour will only be a very tiny bit better for the locals, The only real good thing about a Labour win will be the fact that Royston Smith will be replace by another just as bad as him.
Do you relise how much money this Tory council as wasted in four years of office, money that as not gone towards the city but to wealthy firms that have no connections to the city in charges.
So your going to not stand in Labour areas then?
Are you doing what the Labour party have told the TUSC to do?
Southy you keep on about out side rich people coming into this city?
What the hell do you call Mr.Williams? is he poor?
Why aren't you & the TUSC out there pointing out that last year Williams said 700 more redundancies than the Tories envisaged & then retracted it.
He then said recently Improved Working Practices. then he said with Denham by his side Job losses 1-10 refuse collectors he also said you were in talks with Eastleigh about joint refuse services so more job losses,
he said also that the 10%discount to pensioners was wrong is he scrapping the discount? No he's cutting it to 5% your party should be winning votes hand over fist off the Labour party or after all your Anti Nulabour & Anti Tory rhetoric your going to lay down & die & let labour have a free run so come on Southy are you a labour supporter or TUSC?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hardy Lass[/bold] wrote: Southampton is on the up? Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling- Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything- Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?[/p][/quote]The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it! > May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!![/p][/quote]You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail. George4th aka Royston Smith[/p][/quote]Well after seeing this picture I think it's great. As for Labour getting elected are you so blinkered? Improved working practices,1-10 refuse jobs going,amalgamation with Eastleigh refuse services & more job losses.then we get a leaflet stating job creation we get a U turn on the refuse jobs & we hear of 1,500 new homes where? It was Labour who approved the Vospers Woolston site development with high impact housing it was the Tories who cut it back yet a Labour councillor who went on marches protesting against it? Yet you think we're going to vote for them? I hope we're not that stupid![/p][/quote]It wasn't the Tories that pulled back the housing, it was the lack of investment that forced the Tories to pull the number of houses, ask Royston. The American yacht/marine company that was supposed to invest in the site pulled out, Royston will tell you the reasons why. I said that Royston and merry men would fail to elected, I didn't say Labour would. I believe the city is heading for hung chamber (no overall control) forcing partnerships between the 3 main parties and the independents, which I believe will only be good for the city.[/p][/quote]I voted Blue & I think going into this coalition was wrong for my party would have been wrong for Labour & feel it's wrong that a party that no one voted for thinks it has the power to run the country. so I definitely wouldn't want a coalition here in Southampton I remember The Lab/Lib coalition what a mess[/p][/quote]Labour will be in council power come May, Labour done what it needed to last year and that was to maintain the same number of seats, Labour last year had the majority of wards up for election, this year its the Torys turn to have the majority of wards up for election and 2 off them was only paper candidates which they won because of the revolt against Labour, this year there is a revolt against the Torys, how big of a revolt that will been seen on May the 4th when you will get your answer.[/p][/quote]If we lose the current council it will be a very sad day for the City of Southampton. For the first time in a very long time, we have a council who are modernising the City of Southampton and giving the citizens a City to be proud of. Why on earth would you want to throw it away?[/p][/quote]Sad for the blues but not for the reds, we have a council that is looking after the haves and pushing the have not's to the side, this council has more interest for its rich out sider friends than it do for the local people, and to be honest Labour will only be a very tiny bit better for the locals, The only real good thing about a Labour win will be the fact that Royston Smith will be replace by another just as bad as him. Do you relise how much money this Tory council as wasted in four years of office, money that as not gone towards the city but to wealthy firms that have no connections to the city in charges.[/p][/quote]So your going to not stand in Labour areas then? Are you doing what the Labour party have told the TUSC to do? Southy you keep on about out side rich people coming into this city? What the hell do you call Mr.Williams? is he poor? Why aren't you & the TUSC out there pointing out that last year Williams said 700 more redundancies than the Tories envisaged & then retracted it. He then said recently Improved Working Practices. then he said with Denham by his side Job losses 1-10 refuse collectors he also said you were in talks with Eastleigh about joint refuse services so more job losses, he said also that the 10%discount to pensioners was wrong is he scrapping the discount? No he's cutting it to 5% your party should be winning votes hand over fist off the Labour party or after all your Anti Nulabour & Anti Tory rhetoric your going to lay down & die & let labour have a free run so come on Southy are you a labour supporter or TUSC? loosehead

3:50pm Wed 11 Apr 12

loosehead says...

Over the Edge wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
George4th wrote:
Hardy Lass wrote:
Southampton is on the up?

Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling-

Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything-

Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?
The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it!
>
May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!!
You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail.

George4th aka Royston Smith
Well after seeing this picture I think it's great.
As for Labour getting elected are you so blinkered?
Improved working practices,1-10 refuse jobs going,amalgamation with Eastleigh refuse services & more job losses.then we get a leaflet stating job creation we get a U turn on the refuse jobs & we hear of 1,500 new homes where?
It was Labour who approved the Vospers Woolston site development with high impact housing it was the Tories who cut it back yet a Labour councillor who went on marches protesting against it?
Yet you think we're going to vote for them?
I hope we're not that stupid!
It wasn't the Tories that pulled back the housing, it was the lack of investment that forced the Tories to pull the number of houses, ask Royston.

The American yacht/marine company that was supposed to invest in the site pulled out, Royston will tell you the reasons why.

I said that Royston and merry men would fail to elected, I didn't say Labour would.

I believe the city is heading for hung chamber (no overall control) forcing partnerships between the 3 main parties and the independents, which I believe will only be good for the city.
Didn't you use to read this paper?
People of Woolston weren't happy with the amount of flats compared to the parking spaces the council ( Tory) called in the developer & they agreed to cut the amount of flats.
The american company pulled out of a totally separate area than the housing/shop area. It was printed in an article in this very paper so where did you get your ideas/evidence from?
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hardy Lass[/bold] wrote: Southampton is on the up? Yet why is it such a nightmare to get to A+ E at the General Hospital, why do areas of Southampton look like a third world country- why are the shops around the Bargate area struggling- Why is care in the community struggling to keep on top of everything- Surely the city has plenty of money, so where is it being wasted on on whom?[/p][/quote]The City is in recovery from the 25 years that preceded the current council when all that was achieved was wasting money with nothing to show for it! > May I respectfully suggest that you go to the City of Southampton website and look at the future plans for the City of Southampton, including the Bargate area. This City will be transformed!!![/p][/quote]You are going to be so disappointed come the May election, your one man election campaign to Royston Smith and merry men re-elected will fail. George4th aka Royston Smith[/p][/quote]Well after seeing this picture I think it's great. As for Labour getting elected are you so blinkered? Improved working practices,1-10 refuse jobs going,amalgamation with Eastleigh refuse services & more job losses.then we get a leaflet stating job creation we get a U turn on the refuse jobs & we hear of 1,500 new homes where? It was Labour who approved the Vospers Woolston site development with high impact housing it was the Tories who cut it back yet a Labour councillor who went on marches protesting against it? Yet you think we're going to vote for them? I hope we're not that stupid![/p][/quote]It wasn't the Tories that pulled back the housing, it was the lack of investment that forced the Tories to pull the number of houses, ask Royston. The American yacht/marine company that was supposed to invest in the site pulled out, Royston will tell you the reasons why. I said that Royston and merry men would fail to elected, I didn't say Labour would. I believe the city is heading for hung chamber (no overall control) forcing partnerships between the 3 main parties and the independents, which I believe will only be good for the city.[/p][/quote]Didn't you use to read this paper? People of Woolston weren't happy with the amount of flats compared to the parking spaces the council ( Tory) called in the developer & they agreed to cut the amount of flats. The american company pulled out of a totally separate area than the housing/shop area. It was printed in an article in this very paper so where did you get your ideas/evidence from? loosehead

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