£270m MOD plans for army base

Worthy Down.

Worthy Down.

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DEFENCE chiefs have unveiled £270m plans to turn a Hampshire Army base into a training centre for all three services.

A major new college for the Army, Royal Navy and Royal Air Force will be built at Worthy Down near Winchester which will more than double the number of personnel there from 750 to 2,000.

The scheme includes 92 new homes for military families on farmland next to the existing service housing.

Building work is set to start in 2013 if the city council gives the go-ahead. The Ministry of Defence has already approved the plans.

The proposal has been welcomed by the business community and the local MP.

Chris Turner, chief executive of Winchester Business Improvement District, welcomed the expansion plans – and the boost to local traders.

He said: “We are very pleased the MoD has seen Winchester as a place to invest and local businesses will respond as best we can.

“We are already involved in Armed Forces Week, offering discounts to service personnel.”

Winchester and Chandler’s Ford Tory MP Steve Brine said it secured the long-term future of Worthy Down as part of Winchester’s military heritage and was also an opportunity to improve local facilities.

He said: “Residents will know that I have been working with the parish council and MoD for some time to strike a deal on new land being made available for a burial ground, additional football pitch and new cycle route from South Wonston to Winchester and I would expect to see significant progress on all these fronts as the project moves forward.”

The new college would provide training in personnel administration and logistics, including catering.

The base, which was first used for the Royal Flying Corps in 1917, is currently home to the Adjutant General Corps, which will remain on the site.

Under the plan, Worthy Down will accommodate the headquarters and training for the Royal Logistics Corps after the closure of the controversial Deepcut barracks near Camberley in Surrey, where four young recruits died amid allegations of bullying.

Logistics training for the Navy at HMS Raleigh in Cornwall and the RAF at Halton in Buckinghamshire will also move to Worthy Down.

The proposals are part of a defence review which aims to reduce the number of sites occupied by the MoD.

Deputy garrison commander Lieutenant-Colonel Amanda Hassell said the redevelopment guaranteed the future of Worthy Down as a military base for at least 25 years.

She added: “I very much welcome this because it is an opportunity to provide 21st century training and living accommodation for our service people.”

Some nearby residents questioned the need to build new homes when 50 of the existing service houses were empty while others were concerned about pressure on local schools and GP surgery.

However there are spare places at both South Wonston Primary School and The Henry Beaufort School.

Lt-Col Hassell said the empty houses were partly due to redundancies and extra homes would only be built if needed.

The scheme includes a new public reception area with a museum, single living quarters, mess areas, classrooms, welfare hub and gym.

The Defence Infrastucture Organisation plans to submit a planning application to the city council this summer.

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1:29pm Wed 27 Jun 12

Over the Edge says...

Some investment from the Government in to the services, makes a refreshing change in this day and age of defence cuts, left right and centre.
Some investment from the Government in to the services, makes a refreshing change in this day and age of defence cuts, left right and centre. Over the Edge
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2:08pm Wed 27 Jun 12

localnews says...

keep cutting back like they are now and they'll be able to train all three services in an average back garden
keep cutting back like they are now and they'll be able to train all three services in an average back garden localnews
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2:39pm Wed 27 Jun 12

southy says...

Like know how they are going to able to train all three services, Each one is differnt way of training
Like know how they are going to able to train all three services, Each one is differnt way of training southy
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2:45pm Wed 27 Jun 12

phil maccavity says...

southy wrote:
Like know how they are going to able to train all three services, Each one is differnt way of training
Southy
Wasn't aware you were in the services and can therefore comment on such matters.
Seriously if you care to read the article carefully there will be generic training in such disciplines as admin,personnel, logistics, catering etc ...you know that office based stuff you generally decry as worthless.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Like know how they are going to able to train all three services, Each one is differnt way of training[/p][/quote]Southy Wasn't aware you were in the services and can therefore comment on such matters. Seriously if you care to read the article carefully there will be generic training in such disciplines as admin,personnel, logistics, catering etc ...you know that office based stuff you generally decry as worthless. phil maccavity
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2:52pm Wed 27 Jun 12

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Like know how they are going to able to train all three services, Each one is differnt way of training
Let's leave that to the Armed Services shall we or are you an expert in Military training as well?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Like know how they are going to able to train all three services, Each one is differnt way of training[/p][/quote]Let's leave that to the Armed Services shall we or are you an expert in Military training as well? Shoong
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3:21pm Wed 27 Jun 12

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Like know how they are going to able to train all three services, Each one is differnt way of training
Still breaking new ground as the best reason for not voting Tusc.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Like know how they are going to able to train all three services, Each one is differnt way of training[/p][/quote]Still breaking new ground as the best reason for not voting Tusc. Torchie1
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4:42pm Wed 27 Jun 12

sarfhamton says...

This should be good news but of course MoD procurement means that is will cost an extra 2bn and be open 10 years late and then be scrapped the next day.
This should be good news but of course MoD procurement means that is will cost an extra 2bn and be open 10 years late and then be scrapped the next day. sarfhamton
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6:29pm Wed 27 Jun 12

chunky_lover says...

Armed forces need lots more cash , and that cash should come from axing positions at the council.
Armed forces need lots more cash , and that cash should come from axing positions at the council. chunky_lover
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5:17am Thu 28 Jun 12

S023 says...

chunky_lover wrote:
Armed forces need lots more cash , and that cash should come from axing positions at the council.
Why?

How about cutting your benefits instead?
[quote][p][bold]chunky_lover[/bold] wrote: Armed forces need lots more cash , and that cash should come from axing positions at the council.[/p][/quote]Why? How about cutting your benefits instead? S023
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6:03am Thu 28 Jun 12

bigal007 says...

winchester town friday and sat night will be fun with navy and army oh and the raf i would not worry to much about the raf lol
winchester town friday and sat night will be fun with navy and army oh and the raf i would not worry to much about the raf lol bigal007
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7:15am Thu 28 Jun 12

freemantlegirl2 says...

chunky_lover wrote:
Armed forces need lots more cash , and that cash should come from axing positions at the council.
Errm have you not been in the city, the council have been 'axing' positions all over the place, money 'saved' goes to local services. Not that I agree as it's compromised services and things are running at a bare minimum already!

And tell me why benefits should be cut SO23, 90% of people claiming benefits are genuine and in genuine hardship that's why we have the system in the first place - why should they pay to fight wars and make swingeing cuts !
[quote][p][bold]chunky_lover[/bold] wrote: Armed forces need lots more cash , and that cash should come from axing positions at the council.[/p][/quote]Errm have you not been in the city, the council have been 'axing' positions all over the place, money 'saved' goes to local services. Not that I agree as it's compromised services and things are running at a bare minimum already! And tell me why benefits should be cut SO23, 90% of people claiming benefits are genuine and in genuine hardship that's why we have the system in the first place - why should they pay to fight wars and make swingeing cuts ! freemantlegirl2
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11:54am Thu 28 Jun 12

southy says...

phil maccavity wrote:
southy wrote:
Like know how they are going to able to train all three services, Each one is differnt way of training
Southy
Wasn't aware you were in the services and can therefore comment on such matters.
Seriously if you care to read the article carefully there will be generic training in such disciplines as admin,personnel, logistics, catering etc ...you know that office based stuff you generally decry as worthless.
Work on Government ship that is/was RFA
[quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Like know how they are going to able to train all three services, Each one is differnt way of training[/p][/quote]Southy Wasn't aware you were in the services and can therefore comment on such matters. Seriously if you care to read the article carefully there will be generic training in such disciplines as admin,personnel, logistics, catering etc ...you know that office based stuff you generally decry as worthless.[/p][/quote]Work on Government ship that is/was RFA southy
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12:04pm Thu 28 Jun 12

southy says...

Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Like know how they are going to able to train all three services, Each one is differnt way of training
Let's leave that to the Armed Services shall we or are you an expert in Military training as well?
I though you said you knew me, If you knew me then you Know that I work on a Government Ship that was RFA, whitch puts me that one step closer than knowing more than most on here.
Rankings and ratings are different. Tell why would a land base unit want to waste time on learning how to fire a gun on a ship, and your not going to teach a land base unit how to march in a deck of a ship.
Your idea of life is to cut every thing up to save money, well you thing your saving money but your not the cost in the long run is greater.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Like know how they are going to able to train all three services, Each one is differnt way of training[/p][/quote]Let's leave that to the Armed Services shall we or are you an expert in Military training as well?[/p][/quote]I though you said you knew me, If you knew me then you Know that I work on a Government Ship that was RFA, whitch puts me that one step closer than knowing more than most on here. Rankings and ratings are different. Tell why would a land base unit want to waste time on learning how to fire a gun on a ship, and your not going to teach a land base unit how to march in a deck of a ship. Your idea of life is to cut every thing up to save money, well you thing your saving money but your not the cost in the long run is greater. southy
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12:37pm Thu 28 Jun 12

phil maccavity says...

Presumably you worked on the RFA ships as a civilian so that really classes you as an expert on all things military?
Read the article again and see what the training includes.
It does not include firing rifles or marching on the deck of a ship.
Presumably you worked on the RFA ships as a civilian so that really classes you as an expert on all things military? Read the article again and see what the training includes. It does not include firing rifles or marching on the deck of a ship. phil maccavity
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1:12pm Thu 28 Jun 12

southy says...

phil maccavity wrote:
Presumably you worked on the RFA ships as a civilian so that really classes you as an expert on all things military?
Read the article again and see what the training includes.
It does not include firing rifles or marching on the deck of a ship.
no just have a better idea what go's on more than most.
Any one knows that the training is different.
Even Admin is different so is logistics, catering is different.
Thats why it was never mix up before, this all about saving money and making more cuts in the arm services and getting it ready for the Euro Arm Forces. in the end it will end up costing a lot more when will need to go to war and finding that only one of the services is working right and the other two failing big time.
The reason they made the RAF seperate from the Army was because in WWI the Army being in charge of the Air was not working, they did not have a clue how to do the Admin or the Logistics of the Royal Flying Corps so the RAF was formed.
And there be the problem of the Royal Navy Rankings are 2 post higher.
[quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: Presumably you worked on the RFA ships as a civilian so that really classes you as an expert on all things military? Read the article again and see what the training includes. It does not include firing rifles or marching on the deck of a ship.[/p][/quote]no just have a better idea what go's on more than most. Any one knows that the training is different. Even Admin is different so is logistics, catering is different. Thats why it was never mix up before, this all about saving money and making more cuts in the arm services and getting it ready for the Euro Arm Forces. in the end it will end up costing a lot more when will need to go to war and finding that only one of the services is working right and the other two failing big time. The reason they made the RAF seperate from the Army was because in WWI the Army being in charge of the Air was not working, they did not have a clue how to do the Admin or the Logistics of the Royal Flying Corps so the RAF was formed. And there be the problem of the Royal Navy Rankings are 2 post higher. southy
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5:43pm Thu 28 Jun 12

phil maccavity says...

Are we really to believe that Catering is so much different in the Army, Navy and Air Force that they would all need separate training bases?
Are we really to believe that Catering is so much different in the Army, Navy and Air Force that they would all need separate training bases? phil maccavity
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6:13pm Thu 28 Jun 12

chunky_lover says...

S023 wrote:
chunky_lover wrote:
Armed forces need lots more cash , and that cash should come from axing positions at the council.
Why?

How about cutting your benefits instead?
I don't claim benefits. I run 3 successful businesses and pay tax as appropriate. I have a deep repugnance for the city council as they are extremely wasteful with respect to both time, and my money.

I recently parked in a council car park this week which they are painting. I asked some of the painters how long it would take, they responded "As long as we can drag it - cos we're getting paid". A typical example of the council workers.
[quote][p][bold]S023[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chunky_lover[/bold] wrote: Armed forces need lots more cash , and that cash should come from axing positions at the council.[/p][/quote]Why? How about cutting your benefits instead?[/p][/quote]I don't claim benefits. I run 3 successful businesses and pay tax as appropriate. I have a deep repugnance for the city council as they are extremely wasteful with respect to both time, and my money. I recently parked in a council car park this week which they are painting. I asked some of the painters how long it would take, they responded "As long as we can drag it - cos we're getting paid". A typical example of the council workers. chunky_lover
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