Hampshire soldiers to protect volleyball at Olympics (From Daily Echo)
When news happens, text SDE and your photos or videos to 80360. Or contact us by email and phone.
The Tigers to stand guard at beach volleyball at Royal Horseguards Parade for Olympics
11:47am Wednesday 18th July 2012 in News
By Jenny Makin, Crime Reporter
1st Battalion, Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment (1PWRR)
HUNDREDS of soldiers from across Hampshire and the south coast are being drafted in to provide security at the Olympics just months after returning from the Afghanistan front line.
The 1st Battalion, Princess of Wales’s Royal Regiment (1PWRR) – nicknamed The Tigers – have been forced to cancel summer leave and will send more than 400 men to London this week.
About 100 members of 1PWRR were initially to be sent to the event – but yesterday it was confirmed that a further 300 soldiers, who were initially placed on standby, will now also go to the capital within a matter of days to help fill a drastic shortage in manpower caused by the G4 security shambles.
The news was revealed yesterday afternoon as G4 boss Nick Buckles, who is under growing pressure to quit because of the fiasco, apologised and said he would pay all costs incurred by the military – especially regiments like The Tigers where soldiers have been forced to cancel leave.
Mr Buckles, who earns £830,000 a year as head of the firm which is running the £284m contract to provide security at the Olympics, was grilled by a Government committee about its failure to provide enough security guards.
Describing his “deep disappointment” about the failings, Mr Buckles said he would consider paying bonuses to police and the Army and would be covering any accommodation costs.
So far nationally, some 17,500 soldiers have been brought in to help provide security and support in the capital for the duration of the Games which start next week.
That includes a further 3,500 announced by Defence Secretary Philip Hammond last week as the security shortage began to surface.
The Daily Echo understands that 20 Armoured Brigade – of which The Tigers are just one of five regiments – could end up providing about one tenth of that strength, with about 1,700 soldiers on notice to move.
For virtually all of The Tigers it has brought about a swift end to their extended leave, which they were awarded following a tough six months on the front line.
But it’s not all bad news.
A contingent of those being brought in to help have been told they will be stationed at Royal Horseguards Parade, where they will be leading security around the men’s and women’s beach volleyball.
One Tiger, who asked not to be named, said: “Everyone is looking forward to it – it’s a once in a lifetime opportunity to be part of the Olympics in London. Our biggest concern is that the weather is good enough to let the girls play volleyball in their bikinis!”
The first 100 soldiers, who will be leaving their barracks in Paderborn, Germany, tomorrow, will form part of the venue security force and had always been planned into helping at the Olympics.
A further 320 will find out later today or tomorrow if they are definitely needed – but sources say they expect them to be mobilised.
Once in London they will be staying at a temporary camp, known as a forward operating base, for the duration.
Speaking about the deployment, Tigers commander Lt Col James Coote said last night: ‘I have today received confirmation that much of the First Battalion will join our Second Battalion in London in the coming week to assist with providing security for the Olympic Games.
“Securing the United Kingdom is, of course, the Army’s core business and the officers and men of The Tigers will, I know, apply the same professional approach to this task as we did in Afghanistan earlier this year.
“We are working hard now to ensure that we are fully prepared for the very different challenges that we will face. I am absolutely confident that we will be ready.”
Comments(68)
southy
says...
12:12pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Shoong
says...
12:27pm Wed 18 Jul 12
southy wrote:Who says they are coming after us? That's a bit short sighted.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
With so many countries competing, there are going to be some countries that have beefs with each other and some nut job might decide that the Olympics is a good opportunity because of the world's attention is focused on London.
Lest we forget, the 1972 Olympics tragedy was held in West Germany but it was a Palestinian group Black September that targeted Israeli athletes.
Georgem
says...
12:27pm Wed 18 Jul 12
southy wrote:Yep. Bin Laden named several specific incidents that led to the decision to carry out the 9/11 attacks. According to one story from him, the point of the attack was to so outrage the US citizens, that they demand their government change it's foreign policy so that they would no longer be a target. The plan - if that was the aim - hasn't worked, obviously, and respective governments have spun events to gain further control over us.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Entire transcript of bin Laden's speech, courtesy of Al Jazeera:
http://www.aljazeera
.com/archive/2004/11
/200849163336457223.
html
Of course, one has to take the preachings of a known terrorist with a pinch of salt, and whatever the reason behind the attack, 3000 people lost their lives, that shouldn't have. But it's food for thought.
Family Man
says...
12:30pm Wed 18 Jul 12
southy wrote:Have you been to a football match, or even cricket? The way you are treated suggests the enemy is within! And we are the suspects....
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Shoong
says...
12:38pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Family Man wrote:Peter? Paranoia?
southy wrote:Have you been to a football match, or even cricket? The way you are treated suggests the enemy is within! And we are the suspects....
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
No way.
Over the Edge
says...
1:08pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Shoong
says...
1:11pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Over the Edge wrote:Yeh, I'm sure they are made up if they've just come back from a tour and wanted to spend time with the wife and kids!
The Tigers to stand guard at beach volleyball at Royal Horseguards Parade for Olympics.....lucky buggers, all those lovely ladies in skimpy bikini's, a reward for battling the Taliban so well maybe, I bet they can't wait
Over the Edge
says...
1:25pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Shoong wrote:I would imagine many of the single soldiers will be looking forward to being on home soil, have you ever been to Paderborn? it certainly isn't London
Over the Edge wrote:Yeh, I'm sure they are made up if they've just come back from a tour and wanted to spend time with the wife and kids!
The Tigers to stand guard at beach volleyball at Royal Horseguards Parade for Olympics.....lucky buggers, all those lovely ladies in skimpy bikini's, a reward for battling the Taliban so well maybe, I bet they can't wait
Quote from one soldier “Everyone is looking forward to it – it’s a once in a lifetime opportunity to be part of the Olympics in London. Our biggest concern is that the weather is good enough to let the girls play volleyball in their bikinis!”
Sort of sums up my initial thought, I would imagine single soldiers (were possible) were selected over pads, it is only 100 men and women, with the possibility 300 more.
Murray mint
says...
1:48pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Murray mint
says...
1:52pm Wed 18 Jul 12
southy wrote:Good lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
good-gosh
says...
1:59pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Soldier to wife: "Your husband was seen sneaking out of the synchronized swimming so we shot him as a deserter"
southy
says...
2:37pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Murray mint wrote:I been places around this world you can only dream about.
southy wrote:Good lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Its not insane at all unless your a warmonger type person, did we have all this tight security at the last London Olymipcs, no we did not all there was Stewards to direct people about the place.
Georgem
says...
2:39pm Wed 18 Jul 12
southy wrote:So southy. About your blunder yesterday about Rahit Maryada. Any thoughts?
Murray mint wrote:I been places around this world you can only dream about.
southy wrote:Good lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Its not insane at all unless your a warmonger type person, did we have all this tight security at the last London Olymipcs, no we did not all there was Stewards to direct people about the place.
southy
says...
2:40pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Shoong wrote:Shoong under stand what he is saying will you.
Family Man wrote:Peter? Paranoia?
southy wrote:Have you been to a football match, or even cricket? The way you are treated suggests the enemy is within! And we are the suspects....
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
No way.
Shoong
says...
2:54pm Wed 18 Jul 12
southy wrote:Let me break this to you gently - that was in 1948.
Murray mint wrote:I been places around this world you can only dream about.
southy wrote:Good lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Its not insane at all unless your a warmonger type person, did we have all this tight security at the last London Olymipcs, no we did not all there was Stewards to direct people about the place.
Now you might want to sit down for this one and hold on to something - it is the year 2012.
I think things might have changed a little bit since then y'know?
southy
says...
2:56pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Georgem wrote:Did you know Bin Laden was trained by the USA and was also given money and arms to fight the Russians in Afghanistan with a Taliban army and after the Russians had gone, the USA try to dictate to Afghanistan but they would not play ball with the USA.
southy wrote:Yep. Bin Laden named several specific incidents that led to the decision to carry out the 9/11 attacks. According to one story from him, the point of the attack was to so outrage the US citizens, that they demand their government change it's foreign policy so that they would no longer be a target. The plan - if that was the aim - hasn't worked, obviously, and respective governments have spun events to gain further control over us.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Entire transcript of bin Laden's speech, courtesy of Al Jazeera:
http://www.aljazeera
.com/archive/2004/11
/200849163336457223.
html
Of course, one has to take the preachings of a known terrorist with a pinch of salt, and whatever the reason behind the attack, 3000 people lost their lives, that shouldn't have. But it's food for thought.
Have you though about it the other way also, Afghanistan is a Gateway country it is need to run an oil pipe line though, plus there is very large lithium metal deposits (used for Batterys in Lap tops, mobile phones ect) if its not the largest deposit in the world it is very close, think there was an est of $30 billion worth.
It would not be the first time a Goverment has committed a major crime against the people of there country, and is why i am keeping a very open mind on that matter.
Oh also there is no Death mask photos of Bin Laden, and that alone should want you to start asking questions why is there none, that question came up in the UN meeting a mth ago.
Georgem
says...
2:56pm Wed 18 Jul 12
southy wrote:
I been places around this world you can only dream about.
How do you know? I don't see any of Murray mint's travel history here. For all you know, he's been all over the world. Maybe he's even been to India, and met Rahit Maryanda.
Speaking of which, any comments as yet about that?
Georgem
says...
2:58pm Wed 18 Jul 12
southy wrote:Yep. Funny smells surround the whole affair.
Georgem wrote:Did you know Bin Laden was trained by the USA and was also given money and arms to fight the Russians in Afghanistan with a Taliban army and after the Russians had gone, the USA try to dictate to Afghanistan but they would not play ball with the USA.
southy wrote:Yep. Bin Laden named several specific incidents that led to the decision to carry out the 9/11 attacks. According to one story from him, the point of the attack was to so outrage the US citizens, that they demand their government change it's foreign policy so that they would no longer be a target. The plan - if that was the aim - hasn't worked, obviously, and respective governments have spun events to gain further control over us.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Entire transcript of bin Laden's speech, courtesy of Al Jazeera:
http://www.aljazeera
.com/archive/2004/11
/200849163336457223.
html
Of course, one has to take the preachings of a known terrorist with a pinch of salt, and whatever the reason behind the attack, 3000 people lost their lives, that shouldn't have. But it's food for thought.
Have you though about it the other way also, Afghanistan is a Gateway country it is need to run an oil pipe line though, plus there is very large lithium metal deposits (used for Batterys in Lap tops, mobile phones ect) if its not the largest deposit in the world it is very close, think there was an est of $30 billion worth.
It would not be the first time a Goverment has committed a major crime against the people of there country, and is why i am keeping a very open mind on that matter.
Oh also there is no Death mask photos of Bin Laden, and that alone should want you to start asking questions why is there none, that question came up in the UN meeting a mth ago.
southy
says...
3:00pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Shoong wrote:We should not make enemies of each other then should we. You would of though we would of learned from the last 2 major wars, but not we have not we carry on invading other countrys all for the wrong reasons.
southy wrote:Who says they are coming after us? That's a bit short sighted.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
With so many countries competing, there are going to be some countries that have beefs with each other and some nut job might decide that the Olympics is a good opportunity because of the world's attention is focused on London.
Lest we forget, the 1972 Olympics tragedy was held in West Germany but it was a Palestinian group Black September that targeted Israeli athletes.
Georgem
says...
3:05pm Wed 18 Jul 12
southy wrote:Indeed. We should follow the teachings of Rahit Maryada, should we not?
Shoong wrote:We should not make enemies of each other then should we. You would of though we would of learned from the last 2 major wars, but not we have not we carry on invading other countrys all for the wrong reasons.
southy wrote:Who says they are coming after us? That's a bit short sighted.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
With so many countries competing, there are going to be some countries that have beefs with each other and some nut job might decide that the Olympics is a good opportunity because of the world's attention is focused on London.
Lest we forget, the 1972 Olympics tragedy was held in West Germany but it was a Palestinian group Black September that targeted Israeli athletes.
St Retford
says...
3:12pm Wed 18 Jul 12
southy
says...
3:14pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Georgem wrote:Was not a blunder Georgem it was a direct copy and paste from his works, check him up.
southy wrote:So southy. About your blunder yesterday about Rahit Maryada. Any thoughts?
Murray mint wrote:I been places around this world you can only dream about.
southy wrote:Good lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Its not insane at all unless your a warmonger type person, did we have all this tight security at the last London Olymipcs, no we did not all there was Stewards to direct people about the place.
Think what you was saying, because what you was said even Pagan Religion as one god at the very top with lesser gods underneath.
Sikh religion is an off shot of hidu and are of a warrior class, and Guru Nanak who they worship is not any god it was a person born in the late1400's I think.
Mono Religion only came abbout because kings in the middle east wanted to thin the numbers Gods down to have more control over its people.
Any not here wait till some thing like that subject comes up, because it worth debating about and can be very interesting topic even for atheists
southy
says...
3:15pm Wed 18 Jul 12
St Retford wrote:lol more than likely
I think you guys are over-thinking this story. It exists mainly as an excuse to put a picture of a beach volleyball player into the newspaper.
Georgem
says...
3:16pm Wed 18 Jul 12
southy wrote:Southy, as I said yesterday, Rahit Maryada is NOT A PERSON! It is a code of conduct. Think about those words for a minute.
Georgem wrote:Was not a blunder Georgem it was a direct copy and paste from his works, check him up.
southy wrote:So southy. About your blunder yesterday about Rahit Maryada. Any thoughts?
Murray mint wrote:I been places around this world you can only dream about.
southy wrote:Good lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Its not insane at all unless your a warmonger type person, did we have all this tight security at the last London Olymipcs, no we did not all there was Stewards to direct people about the place.
Think what you was saying, because what you was said even Pagan Religion as one god at the very top with lesser gods underneath.
Sikh religion is an off shot of hidu and are of a warrior class, and Guru Nanak who they worship is not any god it was a person born in the late1400's I think.
Mono Religion only came abbout because kings in the middle east wanted to thin the numbers Gods down to have more control over its people.
Any not here wait till some thing like that subject comes up, because it worth debating about and can be very interesting topic even for atheists
Georgem
says...
3:17pm Wed 18 Jul 12
St Retford wrote:I think they missed a golden opportunity to post stills from the totally-not-homoerotic volleyball scenes from "Top Gun".
I think you guys are over-thinking this story. It exists mainly as an excuse to put a picture of a beach volleyball player into the newspaper.
southy
says...
3:19pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Georgem wrote:It do stink, think thats why question got ask in the UN and I think there will more questions to come, now that person as reminded others about the USA promise to show the world pictures of prof that he is dead.
southy wrote:Yep. Funny smells surround the whole affair.
Georgem wrote:Did you know Bin Laden was trained by the USA and was also given money and arms to fight the Russians in Afghanistan with a Taliban army and after the Russians had gone, the USA try to dictate to Afghanistan but they would not play ball with the USA.
southy wrote:Yep. Bin Laden named several specific incidents that led to the decision to carry out the 9/11 attacks. According to one story from him, the point of the attack was to so outrage the US citizens, that they demand their government change it's foreign policy so that they would no longer be a target. The plan - if that was the aim - hasn't worked, obviously, and respective governments have spun events to gain further control over us.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Entire transcript of bin Laden's speech, courtesy of Al Jazeera:
http://www.aljazeera
.com/archive/2004/11
/200849163336457223.
html
Of course, one has to take the preachings of a known terrorist with a pinch of salt, and whatever the reason behind the attack, 3000 people lost their lives, that shouldn't have. But it's food for thought.
Have you though about it the other way also, Afghanistan is a Gateway country it is need to run an oil pipe line though, plus there is very large lithium metal deposits (used for Batterys in Lap tops, mobile phones ect) if its not the largest deposit in the world it is very close, think there was an est of $30 billion worth.
It would not be the first time a Goverment has committed a major crime against the people of there country, and is why i am keeping a very open mind on that matter.
Oh also there is no Death mask photos of Bin Laden, and that alone should want you to start asking questions why is there none, that question came up in the UN meeting a mth ago.
southy
says...
3:28pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Georgem wrote:Georgem are you mixing up.
southy wrote:Southy, as I said yesterday, Rahit Maryada is NOT A PERSON! It is a code of conduct. Think about those words for a minute.
Georgem wrote:Was not a blunder Georgem it was a direct copy and paste from his works, check him up.
southy wrote:So southy. About your blunder yesterday about Rahit Maryada. Any thoughts?
Murray mint wrote:I been places around this world you can only dream about.
southy wrote:Good lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Its not insane at all unless your a warmonger type person, did we have all this tight security at the last London Olymipcs, no we did not all there was Stewards to direct people about the place.
Think what you was saying, because what you was said even Pagan Religion as one god at the very top with lesser gods underneath.
Sikh religion is an off shot of hidu and are of a warrior class, and Guru Nanak who they worship is not any god it was a person born in the late1400's I think.
Mono Religion only came abbout because kings in the middle east wanted to thin the numbers Gods down to have more control over its people.
Any not here wait till some thing like that subject comes up, because it worth debating about and can be very interesting topic even for atheists
Sikh Rahit Marayada and Sikh Reht Maryada and Sikh Rehat Maryada,
**** confusing names.
Georgem
says...
3:31pm Wed 18 Jul 12
southy wrote:No, they are all the same thing. I thought you were one of the few on here that could admit when you were wrong?
Georgem wrote:Georgem are you mixing up.
southy wrote:Southy, as I said yesterday, Rahit Maryada is NOT A PERSON! It is a code of conduct. Think about those words for a minute.
Georgem wrote:Was not a blunder Georgem it was a direct copy and paste from his works, check him up.
southy wrote:So southy. About your blunder yesterday about Rahit Maryada. Any thoughts?
Murray mint wrote:I been places around this world you can only dream about.
southy wrote:Good lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Its not insane at all unless your a warmonger type person, did we have all this tight security at the last London Olymipcs, no we did not all there was Stewards to direct people about the place.
Think what you was saying, because what you was said even Pagan Religion as one god at the very top with lesser gods underneath.
Sikh religion is an off shot of hidu and are of a warrior class, and Guru Nanak who they worship is not any god it was a person born in the late1400's I think.
Mono Religion only came abbout because kings in the middle east wanted to thin the numbers Gods down to have more control over its people.
Any not here wait till some thing like that subject comes up, because it worth debating about and can be very interesting topic even for atheists
Sikh Rahit Marayada and Sikh Reht Maryada and Sikh Rehat Maryada,
**** confusing names.
freefinker
says...
3:33pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Show us just one URL referring to Rahit Maryada as a man.
My search engine comes up with 22,400 results for Rahit Maryada - bet you a fiver you can't find a single one relating to an individual of that name.
OSPREYSAINT
says...
3:35pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Family Man wrote:I don't know, are you alone?
Am I alone in finding the attitude of this government and that of many of those who went before almost breathtakingly hypocritical.
Perhaps more so with the armed forces but in many ways the entire public sector is wheeled out to sort out the issues of the day, only to be slapped in the face when it suits. In this case the private sector failed completely and utterly even though only one party's dogma is "private is best, public is automatically bad". And at this particular time when men are dying in Afghanistan whilst others are being made redundant as a result of a "strategic review" .... You didn't see this one coming did you Cameron, Clegg and Osborne!
But I don't blame this government only, as I said, previous governments have largely been the same, use The men when you need them, discard them and ignore them when you don't.
I suggest everyone reads the poem "Tommy" by Rudyard Kipling on a regular basis to remind themselves, although Lord knows, something as poignant as Remembrance Sunday doesn't seem to be enough!
freefinker
says...
3:38pm Wed 18 Jul 12
“and has admitting when i am wrong i am one of the only few people on here that will do that"
OSPREYSAINT
says...
3:39pm Wed 18 Jul 12
southy wrote:That was 1948 we had defeated most of our enemies by then, this is the 21st Century, there are lots of nasty individuals out there with malevolent intent, some Political, some Religious, some plain nasty and some completely out of their tree, it isn't paranoia it's common sense to protect the public in the best way possible.
Murray mint wrote:I been places around this world you can only dream about.
southy wrote:Good lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Its not insane at all unless your a warmonger type person, did we have all this tight security at the last London Olymipcs, no we did not all there was Stewards to direct people about the place.
Georgem
says...
3:40pm Wed 18 Jul 12
freefinker wrote:Indeed. And here's a golden opportunity for him to show us all how it's done, how he's man enough to do it. He should be thanking us.
southy, redbridge, 5:26pm Sat 8 Jan 11. says: -
“and has admitting when i am wrong i am one of the only few people on here that will do that"
OSPREYSAINT
says...
3:44pm Wed 18 Jul 12
southy wrote:Yes of course we knew that, it is not unique for a former ally to turn against the good guys and use their own (the good guys) weapons against them.
Georgem wrote:Did you know Bin Laden was trained by the USA and was also given money and arms to fight the Russians in Afghanistan with a Taliban army and after the Russians had gone, the USA try to dictate to Afghanistan but they would not play ball with the USA.
southy wrote:Yep. Bin Laden named several specific incidents that led to the decision to carry out the 9/11 attacks. According to one story from him, the point of the attack was to so outrage the US citizens, that they demand their government change it's foreign policy so that they would no longer be a target. The plan - if that was the aim - hasn't worked, obviously, and respective governments have spun events to gain further control over us.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Entire transcript of bin Laden's speech, courtesy of Al Jazeera:
http://www.aljazeera
.com/archive/2004/11
/200849163336457223.
html
Of course, one has to take the preachings of a known terrorist with a pinch of salt, and whatever the reason behind the attack, 3000 people lost their lives, that shouldn't have. But it's food for thought.
Have you though about it the other way also, Afghanistan is a Gateway country it is need to run an oil pipe line though, plus there is very large lithium metal deposits (used for Batterys in Lap tops, mobile phones ect) if its not the largest deposit in the world it is very close, think there was an est of $30 billion worth.
It would not be the first time a Goverment has committed a major crime against the people of there country, and is why i am keeping a very open mind on that matter.
Oh also there is no Death mask photos of Bin Laden, and that alone should want you to start asking questions why is there none, that question came up in the UN meeting a mth ago.
OSPREYSAINT
says...
3:46pm Wed 18 Jul 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:How long will it be before the Lib Dems turn against the Tories and whip the carpet from under them?
southy wrote:Yes of course we knew that, it is not unique for a former ally to turn against the good guys and use their own (the good guys) weapons against them.
Georgem wrote:Did you know Bin Laden was trained by the USA and was also given money and arms to fight the Russians in Afghanistan with a Taliban army and after the Russians had gone, the USA try to dictate to Afghanistan but they would not play ball with the USA.
southy wrote:Yep. Bin Laden named several specific incidents that led to the decision to carry out the 9/11 attacks. According to one story from him, the point of the attack was to so outrage the US citizens, that they demand their government change it's foreign policy so that they would no longer be a target. The plan - if that was the aim - hasn't worked, obviously, and respective governments have spun events to gain further control over us.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Entire transcript of bin Laden's speech, courtesy of Al Jazeera:
http://www.aljazeera
.com/archive/2004/11
/200849163336457223.
html
Of course, one has to take the preachings of a known terrorist with a pinch of salt, and whatever the reason behind the attack, 3000 people lost their lives, that shouldn't have. But it's food for thought.
Have you though about it the other way also, Afghanistan is a Gateway country it is need to run an oil pipe line though, plus there is very large lithium metal deposits (used for Batterys in Lap tops, mobile phones ect) if its not the largest deposit in the world it is very close, think there was an est of $30 billion worth.
It would not be the first time a Goverment has committed a major crime against the people of there country, and is why i am keeping a very open mind on that matter.
Oh also there is no Death mask photos of Bin Laden, and that alone should want you to start asking questions why is there none, that question came up in the UN meeting a mth ago.
Rahit Maryada
says...
3:49pm Wed 18 Jul 12
southy wrote:Speaking as the document in question, I can confirm that I am not, in fact, a person.
Georgem wrote:Georgem are you mixing up.
southy wrote:Southy, as I said yesterday, Rahit Maryada is NOT A PERSON! It is a code of conduct. Think about those words for a minute.
Georgem wrote:Was not a blunder Georgem it was a direct copy and paste from his works, check him up.
southy wrote:So southy. About your blunder yesterday about Rahit Maryada. Any thoughts?
Murray mint wrote:I been places around this world you can only dream about.
southy wrote:Good lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Its not insane at all unless your a warmonger type person, did we have all this tight security at the last London Olymipcs, no we did not all there was Stewards to direct people about the place.
Think what you was saying, because what you was said even Pagan Religion as one god at the very top with lesser gods underneath.
Sikh religion is an off shot of hidu and are of a warrior class, and Guru Nanak who they worship is not any god it was a person born in the late1400's I think.
Mono Religion only came abbout because kings in the middle east wanted to thin the numbers Gods down to have more control over its people.
Any not here wait till some thing like that subject comes up, because it worth debating about and can be very interesting topic even for atheists
Sikh Rahit Marayada and Sikh Reht Maryada and Sikh Rehat Maryada,
**** confusing names.
Georgem
says...
5:03pm Wed 18 Jul 12
freefinker
says...
5:06pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Georgem wrote:.. par for the course.
Deafening silence from the southy camp...
Torchie1
says...
5:27pm Wed 18 Jul 12
southy wrote:"Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this"
Georgem wrote:Did you know Bin Laden was trained by the USA and was also given money and arms to fight the Russians in Afghanistan with a Taliban army and after the Russians had gone, the USA try to dictate to Afghanistan but they would not play ball with the USA.
southy wrote:Yep. Bin Laden named several specific incidents that led to the decision to carry out the 9/11 attacks. According to one story from him, the point of the attack was to so outrage the US citizens, that they demand their government change it's foreign policy so that they would no longer be a target. The plan - if that was the aim - hasn't worked, obviously, and respective governments have spun events to gain further control over us.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Entire transcript of bin Laden's speech, courtesy of Al Jazeera:
http://www.aljazeera
.com/archive/2004/11
/200849163336457223.
html
Of course, one has to take the preachings of a known terrorist with a pinch of salt, and whatever the reason behind the attack, 3000 people lost their lives, that shouldn't have. But it's food for thought.
Have you though about it the other way also, Afghanistan is a Gateway country it is need to run an oil pipe line though, plus there is very large lithium metal deposits (used for Batterys in Lap tops, mobile phones ect) if its not the largest deposit in the world it is very close, think there was an est of $30 billion worth.
It would not be the first time a Goverment has committed a major crime against the people of there country, and is why i am keeping a very open mind on that matter.
Oh also there is no Death mask photos of Bin Laden, and that alone should want you to start asking questions why is there none, that question came up in the UN meeting a mth ago.
First you ask a question like this and then you want to see pictures of a dead Bin Laden. Take a couple of deep breathes and ask yourself what expressions of outrage will come from certain sections of the Muslim community and you will have answered your first question.
Shoong
says...
5:41pm Wed 18 Jul 12
freefinker wrote:I work with a Sikh so was able to ask him.
.. southy. You're not listening.
Show us just one URL referring to Rahit Maryada as a man.
My search engine comes up with 22,400 results for Rahit Maryada - bet you a fiver you can't find a single one relating to an individual of that name.
'Sikh Rehat Maryada' is the code of conduct for Sikhs apparently.
In 1950 the current Sikh Rehat Maryada was produced based upon the work of Sikh scholars, seeking to better standardise Sikh practices throughout the international community.
Hope this clears it all up.
freefinker
says...
5:53pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Shoong wrote:.. yes, as Georgem and I have been saying for a couple of days now.
freefinker wrote:I work with a Sikh so was able to ask him.
.. southy. You're not listening.
Show us just one URL referring to Rahit Maryada as a man.
My search engine comes up with 22,400 results for Rahit Maryada - bet you a fiver you can't find a single one relating to an individual of that name.
'Sikh Rehat Maryada' is the code of conduct for Sikhs apparently.
In 1950 the current Sikh Rehat Maryada was produced based upon the work of Sikh scholars, seeking to better standardise Sikh practices throughout the international community.
Hope this clears it all up.
It appears to be only southy who has secret info (no doubt only obtainable on a 'pay-for website' he subscribes to) that Rahit Maryada is, in fact, an individual.
Obviously, all the 22,000 free-to-use websites mentioning Rahit Maryada have been got at by evil hackers to alter the truth.
Shoong
says...
5:55pm Wed 18 Jul 12
freefinker wrote:I heard there's a shortage of tin foil around the corner so maybe that will be our chance to recruit him to The Dark Side.
Shoong wrote:.. yes, as Georgem and I have been saying for a couple of days now.
freefinker wrote:I work with a Sikh so was able to ask him.
.. southy. You're not listening.
Show us just one URL referring to Rahit Maryada as a man.
My search engine comes up with 22,400 results for Rahit Maryada - bet you a fiver you can't find a single one relating to an individual of that name.
'Sikh Rehat Maryada' is the code of conduct for Sikhs apparently.
In 1950 the current Sikh Rehat Maryada was produced based upon the work of Sikh scholars, seeking to better standardise Sikh practices throughout the international community.
Hope this clears it all up.
It appears to be only southy who has secret info (no doubt only obtainable on a 'pay-for website' he subscribes to) that Rahit Maryada is, in fact, an individual.
Obviously, all the 22,000 free-to-use websites mentioning Rahit Maryada have been got at by evil hackers to alter the truth.
dango
says...
6:59pm Wed 18 Jul 12
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, The Southern Daily Echo for the story 'The Tigers to stand guard at beach volleyball at Royal Horseguards Parade for Olympics'.
rich the stitch
says...
7:17pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Georgem wrote:Am I right in saying that Southy is a councillor/ represents a political party or similar? Well Southy you’ve just made yourself look like all the politicians out there – Cameron, Clegg and yes Thatcher. Been proven wrong, but not got the balls to stand up and admit you’ve made a mistake. The government is a shambles as it’s full of people exactly like you. Hang your head in shame. Will there be a response? Of course not.
southy wrote:Southy, as I said yesterday, Rahit Maryada is NOT A PERSON! It is a code of conduct. Think about those words for a minute.Georgem wrote:Was not a blunder Georgem it was a direct copy and paste from his works, check him up. Think what you was saying, because what you was said even Pagan Religion as one god at the very top with lesser gods underneath. Sikh religion is an off shot of hidu and are of a warrior class, and Guru Nanak who they worship is not any god it was a person born in the late1400's I think. Mono Religion only came abbout because kings in the middle east wanted to thin the numbers Gods down to have more control over its people. Any not here wait till some thing like that subject comes up, because it worth debating about and can be very interesting topic even for atheistssouthy wrote:So southy. About your blunder yesterday about Rahit Maryada. Any thoughts?Murray mint wrote:I been places around this world you can only dream about. Its not insane at all unless your a warmonger type person, did we have all this tight security at the last London Olymipcs, no we did not all there was Stewards to direct people about the place.southy wrote: What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like thisGood lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
Home Rule for England
says...
7:32pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Georgem wrote:And what specific incidents led Bin Laden to the decision to blow up innocent women and children in Iraq I wonder?
southy wrote:Yep. Bin Laden named several specific incidents that led to the decision to carry out the 9/11 attacks. According to one story from him, the point of the attack was to so outrage the US citizens, that they demand their government change it's foreign policy so that they would no longer be a target. The plan - if that was the aim - hasn't worked, obviously, and respective governments have spun events to gain further control over us.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Entire transcript of bin Laden's speech, courtesy of Al Jazeera:
http://www.aljazeera
.com/archive/2004/11
/200849163336457223.
html
Of course, one has to take the preachings of a known terrorist with a pinch of salt, and whatever the reason behind the attack, 3000 people lost their lives, that shouldn't have. But it's food for thought.
freefinker
says...
7:51pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Home Rule for England wrote:.. one might also ask 'what specific incidents' led the US/UK to kill hundreds of thousands of 'innocent women and children in Iraq'.
Georgem wrote:And what specific incidents led Bin Laden to the decision to blow up innocent women and children in Iraq I wonder?
southy wrote:Yep. Bin Laden named several specific incidents that led to the decision to carry out the 9/11 attacks. According to one story from him, the point of the attack was to so outrage the US citizens, that they demand their government change it's foreign policy so that they would no longer be a target. The plan - if that was the aim - hasn't worked, obviously, and respective governments have spun events to gain further control over us.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Entire transcript of bin Laden's speech, courtesy of Al Jazeera:
http://www.aljazeera
.com/archive/2004/11
/200849163336457223.
html
Of course, one has to take the preachings of a known terrorist with a pinch of salt, and whatever the reason behind the attack, 3000 people lost their lives, that shouldn't have. But it's food for thought.
dolomiteman
says...
9:24pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Shoong wrote:Yep, in 1948 the media didn't have 24 hour news channels with nothing else better to do other than hype everyone into an anti gonerment frenzy and have the need to fabricate stories just to keep the viewer figures up.
southy wrote:Let me break this to you gently - that was in 1948.
Murray mint wrote:I been places around this world you can only dream about.
southy wrote:Good lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Its not insane at all unless your a warmonger type person, did we have all this tight security at the last London Olymipcs, no we did not all there was Stewards to direct people about the place.
Now you might want to sit down for this one and hold on to something - it is the year 2012.
I think things might have changed a little bit since then y'know?
OSPREYSAINT
says...
9:36pm Wed 18 Jul 12
freefinker wrote:That's worth discussing on a seperate thread but a bit to deep for this one.
Home Rule for England wrote:.. one might also ask 'what specific incidents' led the US/UK to kill hundreds of thousands of 'innocent women and children in Iraq'.
Georgem wrote:And what specific incidents led Bin Laden to the decision to blow up innocent women and children in Iraq I wonder?
southy wrote:Yep. Bin Laden named several specific incidents that led to the decision to carry out the 9/11 attacks. According to one story from him, the point of the attack was to so outrage the US citizens, that they demand their government change it's foreign policy so that they would no longer be a target. The plan - if that was the aim - hasn't worked, obviously, and respective governments have spun events to gain further control over us.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Entire transcript of bin Laden's speech, courtesy of Al Jazeera:
http://www.aljazeera
.com/archive/2004/11
/200849163336457223.
html
Of course, one has to take the preachings of a known terrorist with a pinch of salt, and whatever the reason behind the attack, 3000 people lost their lives, that shouldn't have. But it's food for thought.
OSPREYSAINT
says...
9:42pm Wed 18 Jul 12
rich the stitch wrote:That's OK if that is your view of it, but not everyone sees it like that, time will tell if it is a shambles, but there is little as an individual that we can do about it until the next election.
Georgem wrote:Am I right in saying that Southy is a councillor/ represents a political party or similar? Well Southy you’ve just made yourself look like all the politicians out there – Cameron, Clegg and yes Thatcher. Been proven wrong, but not got the balls to stand up and admit you’ve made a mistake. The government is a shambles as it’s full of people exactly like you. Hang your head in shame. Will there be a response? Of course not.
southy wrote:Southy, as I said yesterday, Rahit Maryada is NOT A PERSON! It is a code of conduct. Think about those words for a minute.Georgem wrote:Was not a blunder Georgem it was a direct copy and paste from his works, check him up. Think what you was saying, because what you was said even Pagan Religion as one god at the very top with lesser gods underneath. Sikh religion is an off shot of hidu and are of a warrior class, and Guru Nanak who they worship is not any god it was a person born in the late1400's I think. Mono Religion only came abbout because kings in the middle east wanted to thin the numbers Gods down to have more control over its people. Any not here wait till some thing like that subject comes up, because it worth debating about and can be very interesting topic even for atheistssouthy wrote:So southy. About your blunder yesterday about Rahit Maryada. Any thoughts?Murray mint wrote:I been places around this world you can only dream about. Its not insane at all unless your a warmonger type person, did we have all this tight security at the last London Olymipcs, no we did not all there was Stewards to direct people about the place.southy wrote: What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like thisGood lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
IronLady2010
says...
10:22pm Wed 18 Jul 12
IronLady2010
says...
10:22pm Wed 18 Jul 12
IronLady2010 wrote:*our
Good on The Tigers, this is what are troops are for, to protect our Country and be there no matter what. Hope all of them are kept safe from nutters!
southy
says...
9:41am Thu 19 Jul 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Georgem "Sikh Reht Maryada" is the code of conduct, not Rahit Maryada.
rich the stitch wrote:That's OK if that is your view of it, but not everyone sees it like that, time will tell if it is a shambles, but there is little as an individual that we can do about it until the next election.
Georgem wrote:Am I right in saying that Southy is a councillor/ represents a political party or similar? Well Southy you’ve just made yourself look like all the politicians out there – Cameron, Clegg and yes Thatcher. Been proven wrong, but not got the balls to stand up and admit you’ve made a mistake. The government is a shambles as it’s full of people exactly like you. Hang your head in shame. Will there be a response? Of course not.
southy wrote:Southy, as I said yesterday, Rahit Maryada is NOT A PERSON! It is a code of conduct. Think about those words for a minute.Georgem wrote:Was not a blunder Georgem it was a direct copy and paste from his works, check him up. Think what you was saying, because what you was said even Pagan Religion as one god at the very top with lesser gods underneath. Sikh religion is an off shot of hidu and are of a warrior class, and Guru Nanak who they worship is not any god it was a person born in the late1400's I think. Mono Religion only came abbout because kings in the middle east wanted to thin the numbers Gods down to have more control over its people. Any not here wait till some thing like that subject comes up, because it worth debating about and can be very interesting topic even for atheistssouthy wrote:So southy. About your blunder yesterday about Rahit Maryada. Any thoughts?Murray mint wrote:I been places around this world you can only dream about. Its not insane at all unless your a warmonger type person, did we have all this tight security at the last London Olymipcs, no we did not all there was Stewards to direct people about the place.southy wrote: What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like thisGood lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
Mind you this is not easy to understand Georgem there is Rahit Marayada ,Reht Maryada, Rehat Maryada and more that are close, So which is which, I know who to ask but not seeing him till the weekend, I am going by translated pages on the web and you know how I feel about the web.
southy
says...
10:12am Thu 19 Jul 12
Georgem wrote:I am on a learning curve here, so keep throwing things my way. I know the real basics but I want to know more.
southy wrote:So southy. About your blunder yesterday about Rahit Maryada. Any thoughts?
Murray mint wrote:I been places around this world you can only dream about.
southy wrote:Good lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Its not insane at all unless your a warmonger type person, did we have all this tight security at the last London Olymipcs, no we did not all there was Stewards to direct people about the place.
Georgem
says...
10:25am Thu 19 Jul 12
southy wrote:No, southy, they're all different spellings of the same thing. Would it not be easier to just say "I made a mistake?"
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Georgem "Sikh Reht Maryada" is the code of conduct, not Rahit Maryada.
rich the stitch wrote:That's OK if that is your view of it, but not everyone sees it like that, time will tell if it is a shambles, but there is little as an individual that we can do about it until the next election.
Georgem wrote:Am I right in saying that Southy is a councillor/ represents a political party or similar? Well Southy you’ve just made yourself look like all the politicians out there – Cameron, Clegg and yes Thatcher. Been proven wrong, but not got the balls to stand up and admit you’ve made a mistake. The government is a shambles as it’s full of people exactly like you. Hang your head in shame. Will there be a response? Of course not.
southy wrote:Southy, as I said yesterday, Rahit Maryada is NOT A PERSON! It is a code of conduct. Think about those words for a minute.Georgem wrote:Was not a blunder Georgem it was a direct copy and paste from his works, check him up. Think what you was saying, because what you was said even Pagan Religion as one god at the very top with lesser gods underneath. Sikh religion is an off shot of hidu and are of a warrior class, and Guru Nanak who they worship is not any god it was a person born in the late1400's I think. Mono Religion only came abbout because kings in the middle east wanted to thin the numbers Gods down to have more control over its people. Any not here wait till some thing like that subject comes up, because it worth debating about and can be very interesting topic even for atheistssouthy wrote:So southy. About your blunder yesterday about Rahit Maryada. Any thoughts?Murray mint wrote:I been places around this world you can only dream about. Its not insane at all unless your a warmonger type person, did we have all this tight security at the last London Olymipcs, no we did not all there was Stewards to direct people about the place.southy wrote: What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like thisGood lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
Mind you this is not easy to understand Georgem there is Rahit Marayada ,Reht Maryada, Rehat Maryada and more that are close, So which is which, I know who to ask but not seeing him till the weekend, I am going by translated pages on the web and you know how I feel about the web.
freefinker
says...
10:25am Thu 19 Jul 12
southy wrote:Day 3 of southy’s denial.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Georgem "Sikh Reht Maryada" is the code of conduct, not Rahit Maryada.
rich the stitch wrote:That's OK if that is your view of it, but not everyone sees it like that, time will tell if it is a shambles, but there is little as an individual that we can do about it until the next election.
Georgem wrote:Am I right in saying that Southy is a councillor/ represents a political party or similar? Well Southy you’ve just made yourself look like all the politicians out there – Cameron, Clegg and yes Thatcher. Been proven wrong, but not got the balls to stand up and admit you’ve made a mistake. The government is a shambles as it’s full of people exactly like you. Hang your head in shame. Will there be a response? Of course not.
southy wrote:Southy, as I said yesterday, Rahit Maryada is NOT A PERSON! It is a code of conduct. Think about those words for a minute.Georgem wrote:Was not a blunder Georgem it was a direct copy and paste from his works, check him up. Think what you was saying, because what you was said even Pagan Religion as one god at the very top with lesser gods underneath. Sikh religion is an off shot of hidu and are of a warrior class, and Guru Nanak who they worship is not any god it was a person born in the late1400's I think. Mono Religion only came abbout because kings in the middle east wanted to thin the numbers Gods down to have more control over its people. Any not here wait till some thing like that subject comes up, because it worth debating about and can be very interesting topic even for atheistssouthy wrote:So southy. About your blunder yesterday about Rahit Maryada. Any thoughts?Murray mint wrote:I been places around this world you can only dream about. Its not insane at all unless your a warmonger type person, did we have all this tight security at the last London Olymipcs, no we did not all there was Stewards to direct people about the place.southy wrote: What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like thisGood lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
Mind you this is not easy to understand Georgem there is Rahit Marayada ,Reht Maryada, Rehat Maryada and more that are close, So which is which, I know who to ask but not seeing him till the weekend, I am going by translated pages on the web and you know how I feel about the web.
What you are saying is equivalent to; the Christian Ten Commandments is the code of conduct not the Ten Commandments. You are very fond of telling other to ‘think about it’ but you always fail to do so yourself.
Rahit Marayada ,Reht Maryada, Rehat Maryada are just alternative spellings for the English translation of this Punjabi language phrase.
The fact still remains that you have insisted, more than once, that Rahit Maryada is/was a person, from whom you have attributed quotes.
Rahit Maryada IS NOT A PERSON and you need to acknowledge this and admit you were wrong.
Georgem
says...
10:28am Thu 19 Jul 12
southy wrote:Lesson one:
Georgem wrote:I am on a learning curve here, so keep throwing things my way. I know the real basics but I want to know more.
southy wrote:So southy. About your blunder yesterday about Rahit Maryada. Any thoughts?
Murray mint wrote:I been places around this world you can only dream about.
southy wrote:Good lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Its not insane at all unless your a warmonger type person, did we have all this tight security at the last London Olymipcs, no we did not all there was Stewards to direct people about the place.
When you're trying to learn stuff on the fly like this, by googling stuff someone else is posting, and you don't really understand it, you're going to get something wrong at some point. There's nothing wrong with that. There's no shame in saying "Yes, I totally mis-read that bit!" You're not an expert in Sikhism, nobody expects you to be. You won't lose any face by saying "Yep, I had no idea what I was talking about there!" You WILL lose face by carrying on the charade, and insisting you're right, even though in reality you know that you're winging it big style.
southy
says...
10:33am Thu 19 Jul 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:Whats mainly at fault is the Economy and Political system that we been using now for 32 years apart from its a Capitalist one (neo-liberalism and neo-nationalism), its one that will lead onto Fascism as slowly moves more and more to the right, and will not be different till the majority realise what is happening, they have started to realise in Greece and Spain as well here in the UK where the left have reformed and started new political partys where the old left wing partys have been taken over by the right wing and control them, think you can remember what Blair said and what Miliband as said. which is proving that the right wing have totally control over labour.
rich the stitch wrote:That's OK if that is your view of it, but not everyone sees it like that, time will tell if it is a shambles, but there is little as an individual that we can do about it until the next election.
Georgem wrote:Am I right in saying that Southy is a councillor/ represents a political party or similar? Well Southy you’ve just made yourself look like all the politicians out there – Cameron, Clegg and yes Thatcher. Been proven wrong, but not got the balls to stand up and admit you’ve made a mistake. The government is a shambles as it’s full of people exactly like you. Hang your head in shame. Will there be a response? Of course not.
southy wrote:Southy, as I said yesterday, Rahit Maryada is NOT A PERSON! It is a code of conduct. Think about those words for a minute.Georgem wrote:Was not a blunder Georgem it was a direct copy and paste from his works, check him up. Think what you was saying, because what you was said even Pagan Religion as one god at the very top with lesser gods underneath. Sikh religion is an off shot of hidu and are of a warrior class, and Guru Nanak who they worship is not any god it was a person born in the late1400's I think. Mono Religion only came abbout because kings in the middle east wanted to thin the numbers Gods down to have more control over its people. Any not here wait till some thing like that subject comes up, because it worth debating about and can be very interesting topic even for atheistssouthy wrote:So southy. About your blunder yesterday about Rahit Maryada. Any thoughts?Murray mint wrote:I been places around this world you can only dream about. Its not insane at all unless your a warmonger type person, did we have all this tight security at the last London Olymipcs, no we did not all there was Stewards to direct people about the place.southy wrote: What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like thisGood lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
southy
says...
10:53am Thu 19 Jul 12
Georgem wrote:I did say I was copy and paste from a site (i tend not to google search i uses an older one that gives the full search hits).
southy wrote:Lesson one:
Georgem wrote:I am on a learning curve here, so keep throwing things my way. I know the real basics but I want to know more.
southy wrote:So southy. About your blunder yesterday about Rahit Maryada. Any thoughts?
Murray mint wrote:I been places around this world you can only dream about.
southy wrote:Good lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Its not insane at all unless your a warmonger type person, did we have all this tight security at the last London Olymipcs, no we did not all there was Stewards to direct people about the place.
When you're trying to learn stuff on the fly like this, by googling stuff someone else is posting, and you don't really understand it, you're going to get something wrong at some point. There's nothing wrong with that. There's no shame in saying "Yes, I totally mis-read that bit!" You're not an expert in Sikhism, nobody expects you to be. You won't lose any face by saying "Yep, I had no idea what I was talking about there!" You WILL lose face by carrying on the charade, and insisting you're right, even though in reality you know that you're winging it big style.
If you carried you would off seen me say thanxs for the information and i have learned a lot there, i know who to ask just that i don't see him that much now days, I like there attitude on mind altering substance like alcohol and drugs, its reasonable morals to have.
Georgem
says...
10:54am Thu 19 Jul 12
southy wrote:If I carried?
Georgem wrote:I did say I was copy and paste from a site (i tend not to google search i uses an older one that gives the full search hits).
southy wrote:Lesson one:
Georgem wrote:I am on a learning curve here, so keep throwing things my way. I know the real basics but I want to know more.
southy wrote:So southy. About your blunder yesterday about Rahit Maryada. Any thoughts?
Murray mint wrote:I been places around this world you can only dream about.
southy wrote:Good lord, I can mostly put up with your stupidity on local issues, but this comment is insane. Get yourself a passport, go visit the world.
What as this world come to where you need arm forces or a security firm to protect the competitors, Have the Governments made that many enemies in the world where its no longer safe to take part in or go and watch events like this
Its not insane at all unless your a warmonger type person, did we have all this tight security at the last London Olymipcs, no we did not all there was Stewards to direct people about the place.
When you're trying to learn stuff on the fly like this, by googling stuff someone else is posting, and you don't really understand it, you're going to get something wrong at some point. There's nothing wrong with that. There's no shame in saying "Yes, I totally mis-read that bit!" You're not an expert in Sikhism, nobody expects you to be. You won't lose any face by saying "Yep, I had no idea what I was talking about there!" You WILL lose face by carrying on the charade, and insisting you're right, even though in reality you know that you're winging it big style.
If you carried you would off seen me say thanxs for the information and i have learned a lot there, i know who to ask just that i don't see him that much now days, I like there attitude on mind altering substance like alcohol and drugs, its reasonable morals to have.
southy
says...
10:56am Thu 19 Jul 12
Georgem wrote:Oh by the way i had to shoot out for a numbers of hours.
Deafening silence from the southy camp...
Remploy are going to go on strike
Georgem
says...
11:11am Thu 19 Jul 12
southy wrote:Oh, really? Sorry, my mistake. I assumed you'd gone quiet to avoid admitting you were wrong. Sorry for the mixup!
Georgem wrote:Oh by the way i had to shoot out for a numbers of hours.
Deafening silence from the southy camp...
Remploy are going to go on strike
southy
says...
11:19am Thu 19 Jul 12
Georgem wrote:theres going to be 19 strikes in the next 4 to 5 weeks, why don't the unions get there head together and all go out on strike together, they might as well get it over and done with
southy wrote:Oh, really? Sorry, my mistake. I assumed you'd gone quiet to avoid admitting you were wrong. Sorry for the mixup!
Georgem wrote:Oh by the way i had to shoot out for a numbers of hours.
Deafening silence from the southy camp...
Remploy are going to go on strike
freefinker
says...
11:21am Thu 19 Jul 12
Georgem wrote:.. still, he's been around this morning with several post, but still fails to acknowledge his error.
southy wrote:Oh, really? Sorry, my mistake. I assumed you'd gone quiet to avoid admitting you were wrong. Sorry for the mixup!
Georgem wrote:Oh by the way i had to shoot out for a numbers of hours.
Deafening silence from the southy camp...
Remploy are going to go on strike
freefinker
says...
11:45am Thu 19 Jul 12
southy wrote:.. because, as you keep rightly telling us, the union bosses take their instructions democratically from their members.
Georgem wrote:theres going to be 19 strikes in the next 4 to 5 weeks, why don't the unions get there head together and all go out on strike together, they might as well get it over and done with
southy wrote:Oh, really? Sorry, my mistake. I assumed you'd gone quiet to avoid admitting you were wrong. Sorry for the mixup!
Georgem wrote:Oh by the way i had to shoot out for a numbers of hours.
Deafening silence from the southy camp...
Remploy are going to go on strike
Alas, from your point of view, their members are not all raving Trotskyists looking to lose their jobs by engaging in unnecessary strikes for purely far-left political purposes.
Paramjit Bahia
says...
12:37pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Family Man wrote:No sir you are not alone. Your views on this subject are shared by most with open minds
Am I alone in finding the attitude of this government and that of many of those who went before almost breathtakingly hypocritical.
Perhaps more so with the armed forces but in many ways the entire public sector is wheeled out to sort out the issues of the day, only to be slapped in the face when it suits. In this case the private sector failed completely and utterly even though only one party's dogma is "private is best, public is automatically bad". And at this particular time when men are dying in Afghanistan whilst others are being made redundant as a result of a "strategic review" .... You didn't see this one coming did you Cameron, Clegg and Osborne!
But I don't blame this government only, as I said, previous governments have largely been the same, use The men when you need them, discard them and ignore them when you don't.
I suggest everyone reads the poem "Tommy" by Rudyard Kipling on a regular basis to remind themselves, although Lord knows, something as poignant as Remembrance Sunday doesn't seem to be enough!
Shoong
says...
1:05pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Paramjit Bahia wrote:Does that include you? Funny that because nearly everything you post is based bigotry.
Family Man wrote:No sir you are not alone. Your views on this subject are shared by most with open minds
Am I alone in finding the attitude of this government and that of many of those who went before almost breathtakingly hypocritical.
Perhaps more so with the armed forces but in many ways the entire public sector is wheeled out to sort out the issues of the day, only to be slapped in the face when it suits. In this case the private sector failed completely and utterly even though only one party's dogma is "private is best, public is automatically bad". And at this particular time when men are dying in Afghanistan whilst others are being made redundant as a result of a "strategic review" .... You didn't see this one coming did you Cameron, Clegg and Osborne!
But I don't blame this government only, as I said, previous governments have largely been the same, use The men when you need them, discard them and ignore them when you don't.
I suggest everyone reads the poem "Tommy" by Rudyard Kipling on a regular basis to remind themselves, although Lord knows, something as poignant as Remembrance Sunday doesn't seem to be enough!
cantthinkofone
says...
1:29pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Could they not just buy a spare one? I know times are tight, but really...
Family Man says...
12:11pm Wed 18 Jul 12
Perhaps more so with the armed forces but in many ways the entire public sector is wheeled out to sort out the issues of the day, only to be slapped in the face when it suits. In this case the private sector failed completely and utterly even though only one party's dogma is "private is best, public is automatically bad". And at this particular time when men are dying in Afghanistan whilst others are being made redundant as a result of a "strategic review" .... You didn't see this one coming did you Cameron, Clegg and Osborne!
But I don't blame this government only, as I said, previous governments have largely been the same, use The men when you need them, discard them and ignore them when you don't.
I suggest everyone reads the poem "Tommy" by Rudyard Kipling on a regular basis to remind themselves, although Lord knows, something as poignant as Remembrance Sunday doesn't seem to be enough!