Possible £1,000 fares hike for rail passengers warn commuter groups

Train passengers face huge fare hikes Train passengers face huge fare hikes

HAMPSHIRE’S rail-users could see their season tickets rocket by more than £1,000 in just five years, campaigners have warned.

Embattled commuters will today learn by how much their annual fares will go up next year – with people travelling from Southampton and Winchester among the worst affected in the country.

Fare rises are based on July’s inflation rate, which is published today and expected to be just under three per cent.

Government rules mean rail operators can set fares at up to three per cent above today’s figure. But the complex system means that in reality, some could go up by up to ten per cent – as long as prices on other routes are kept low.

Ministers hinted at new measures to control fare rises that could be announced later this year. But the Treasury is keen to stick to the current pricing model as the Govern-ment looks to reign in public spending.

The Campaign for Better Transport has calculated the likely impact of today’s announcement on fares in some of the key commuting hotspots into London.

Based on current inflation figures, it highlighted Southampton and Winchester as “thousand pound towns” – places where commuters’ tickets will rise by an average of £1,000 between 2011 and 2015.

An annual pass between Southampton and London currently costs £4,864 – in 2013 it is expected to rise by £292, reaching £5,733 by 2015.

This is £1,411 more than the same ticket cost in 2011. A Winchester season ticket is likely to have risen by £1,275 to £5,153 between 2011 and 2015.

Today’s announcement will affect “regulated” fares, which include annual season tickets and some inter-city services.

Rail groups will stage protests today at stations across the country to highlight the fare rise.

Stephen Joseph, the chief executive of the Campaign for Better Transport, said: “If the Government sticks by its policy, rail fares will rise three times faster than salaries.

“If rail fares are allowed to gallop ahead like this, many commuters to London will soon being paying as much to travel to work as they do in income tax. This is no way to stimulate the economy.”

Transport Secretary Justine Greening said: “I am keen to see what we can do to keep rail fares down to something affordable. I shall be looking at whether there is a way of doing that in the autumn but we have to stick with our deficit-reduction policy.”

Comments(21)

Likesadrink says...
9:59am Tue 14 Aug 12

This is why when I commuted I only paid fr a season ticket from Winchester rather than Parkway saving me hundreds of pounds per year (the gueards very rarely check between these stations at peak times). I no longer commute btw but did for 8 years.

I saw from the story last week here about the fellas train ticket scam that I wasn't the only one looking for ways around the obscene fare increases on what is a monopoly when it comes to getting into London by train (driving isn't an option when working anywhere in central, north or East London during normal office hours).

I can see only more "rebellion" against these increases.

ToastyTea says...
10:02am Tue 14 Aug 12

Expect to see more fraudulent tickets and fare dodgers, we will not be taken the pi$$ out of. Price hikes while the poor service and crammed trains remain the same, jokes.

ohec says...
10:12am Tue 14 Aug 12

Whilst i agree rail fares are disgustingly high so is the number of people that commute large distances you have to be mad to commute from South Hampshire to London, and its all about money they want high salaries and cheap housing. My Dad always used to say to me that if you can't get to work in 30 minutes you are either working or living in the wrong place. So the greed of the rail companies is matched by the commuters that use them.

southy says...
10:47am Tue 14 Aug 12

ohec wrote:
Whilst i agree rail fares are disgustingly high so is the number of people that commute large distances you have to be mad to commute from South Hampshire to London, and its all about money they want high salaries and cheap housing. My Dad always used to say to me that if you can't get to work in 30 minutes you are either working or living in the wrong place. So the greed of the rail companies is matched by the commuters that use them.
Been saying more or less the same thing ohec, if you can't walk to work in reasonable amount of time, then you need to do some thing about it, like move closer to your job or change jobs

southy says...
10:49am Tue 14 Aug 12

What is happening now, Train users will be paying for the alterations done for the Olympics.

Linesman says...
11:08am Tue 14 Aug 12

When Thatcher sold off the railways we were promised greater efficiency and that prices would not rise as much as they did when they were British Rail.

So much for that!

The government, meaning us, the tax-payer, is still pouring in £millions in subsidy, but now there are shareholders who are also wanting a share of the 'PROFITS'.

Likesadrink says...
11:33am Tue 14 Aug 12

All those bemoaning commuters are jealous that some people get to have their cake and eat it, working for big money with great benefits in one of the world's most dynamic cities whilst getting to come back to leafy South Hampshire at the end of it with enough money to enjoy the best things our area has to offer.

Sounds like a lack of ambition, I met plenty of people like this that had an annual experience of London a week before Christmas and complain that London "is too hectic"... Bless.

No one that works in London does it with a gun to their head, we do it because we want to go on holiday to Barbados, drive a Merc, live in a 5 bed detached house and have a boat for the weekends. Well that's why we start to do it, eventually you realise you do it as you are working with ambitious, highly talented (the best in the country)co-workers earning a well above average salery that means you can afford to keep your head afloat in this mental recession. Never complained about my commute, onwards and upwards for me!

peenut81 says...
11:36am Tue 14 Aug 12

This is why it is vital that we continue to vote for Labour/Tory/Lib-Dems in all future elections as they all believe that privatisation is essential to show that Britain is 'open for business'.
I can't decide if i'm looking forward to the NHS, the Police or the Military being made subject to 'competition' next.

Shoong says...
11:55am Tue 14 Aug 12

southy wrote:
What is happening now, Train users will be paying for the alterations done for the Olympics.
First I've heard of it.

Produce some evidence or I'll presume you've just made it up.

mtdiablo says...
12:15pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Totally agree peenut81, privatization has been proven time and time again to be so much better than public run services like the NHS. The quicker we sell off our military the better.



(In case nobody notices, this is sarcasm)

Torchie1 says...
12:29pm Tue 14 Aug 12

southy wrote:
ohec wrote:
Whilst i agree rail fares are disgustingly high so is the number of people that commute large distances you have to be mad to commute from South Hampshire to London, and its all about money they want high salaries and cheap housing. My Dad always used to say to me that if you can't get to work in 30 minutes you are either working or living in the wrong place. So the greed of the rail companies is matched by the commuters that use them.
Been saying more or less the same thing ohec, if you can't walk to work in reasonable amount of time, then you need to do some thing about it, like move closer to your job or change jobs
The voice of socialism hinting crudely that restrictions on choice of housing should be made. I'd be curious to know what sort of Surgeon/Consultant/A
nesthetist would elect to work at the General Hospital knowing that they'd be expected to live in a semi on Wimpson Lane?

mtdiablo says...
12:30pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Please don't claim southy is the voice of socialism. Some of us are actually sane.

Linesman says...
12:38pm Tue 14 Aug 12

southy wrote:
ohec wrote:
Whilst i agree rail fares are disgustingly high so is the number of people that commute large distances you have to be mad to commute from South Hampshire to London, and its all about money they want high salaries and cheap housing. My Dad always used to say to me that if you can't get to work in 30 minutes you are either working or living in the wrong place. So the greed of the rail companies is matched by the commuters that use them.
Been saying more or less the same thing ohec, if you can't walk to work in reasonable amount of time, then you need to do some thing about it, like move closer to your job or change jobs
Or, as your idol, Norman Tebbit, once said, 'Get on your bike.'

Murray mint says...
12:53pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Likesadrink wrote:
All those bemoaning commuters are jealous that some people get to have their cake and eat it, working for big money with great benefits in one of the world's most dynamic cities whilst getting to come back to leafy South Hampshire at the end of it with enough money to enjoy the best things our area has to offer.

Sounds like a lack of ambition, I met plenty of people like this that had an annual experience of London a week before Christmas and complain that London "is too hectic"... Bless.

No one that works in London does it with a gun to their head, we do it because we want to go on holiday to Barbados, drive a Merc, live in a 5 bed detached house and have a boat for the weekends. Well that's why we start to do it, eventually you realise you do it as you are working with ambitious, highly talented (the best in the country)co-workers earning a well above average salery that means you can afford to keep your head afloat in this mental recession. Never complained about my commute, onwards and upwards for me!
In a nutshell mate. We got on our Bikes, as instructed and made comfortable lives for our loved ones. However there is potential for much more big business investment on the South Coast, I look forward to the day that some of the big city firms realise that outsourcing is just as viable within the UK.

Murray mint says...
12:54pm Tue 14 Aug 12

southy wrote:
What is happening now, Train users will be paying for the alterations done for the Olympics.
Is you middle name Pike by any chance?

ohec says...
1:53pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Likesadrink wrote:
All those bemoaning commuters are jealous that some people get to have their cake and eat it, working for big money with great benefits in one of the world's most dynamic cities whilst getting to come back to leafy South Hampshire at the end of it with enough money to enjoy the best things our area has to offer.

Sounds like a lack of ambition, I met plenty of people like this that had an annual experience of London a week before Christmas and complain that London "is too hectic"... Bless.

No one that works in London does it with a gun to their head, we do it because we want to go on holiday to Barbados, drive a Merc, live in a 5 bed detached house and have a boat for the weekends. Well that's why we start to do it, eventually you realise you do it as you are working with ambitious, highly talented (the best in the country)co-workers earning a well above average salery that means you can afford to keep your head afloat in this mental recession. Never complained about my commute, onwards and upwards for me!
What a sad materialistic individual you are, i feel very sorry for you but one day you will learn.

Shoong says...
2:08pm Tue 14 Aug 12

ohec wrote:
Likesadrink wrote:
All those bemoaning commuters are jealous that some people get to have their cake and eat it, working for big money with great benefits in one of the world's most dynamic cities whilst getting to come back to leafy South Hampshire at the end of it with enough money to enjoy the best things our area has to offer.

Sounds like a lack of ambition, I met plenty of people like this that had an annual experience of London a week before Christmas and complain that London "is too hectic"... Bless.

No one that works in London does it with a gun to their head, we do it because we want to go on holiday to Barbados, drive a Merc, live in a 5 bed detached house and have a boat for the weekends. Well that's why we start to do it, eventually you realise you do it as you are working with ambitious, highly talented (the best in the country)co-workers earning a well above average salery that means you can afford to keep your head afloat in this mental recession. Never complained about my commute, onwards and upwards for me!
What a sad materialistic individual you are, i feel very sorry for you but one day you will learn.
You'll be living in a bed sit then just to prove your not 'materialistic '.

Murray mint says...
2:09pm Tue 14 Aug 12

ohec wrote:
Likesadrink wrote:
All those bemoaning commuters are jealous that some people get to have their cake and eat it, working for big money with great benefits in one of the world's most dynamic cities whilst getting to come back to leafy South Hampshire at the end of it with enough money to enjoy the best things our area has to offer.

Sounds like a lack of ambition, I met plenty of people like this that had an annual experience of London a week before Christmas and complain that London "is too hectic"... Bless.

No one that works in London does it with a gun to their head, we do it because we want to go on holiday to Barbados, drive a Merc, live in a 5 bed detached house and have a boat for the weekends. Well that's why we start to do it, eventually you realise you do it as you are working with ambitious, highly talented (the best in the country)co-workers earning a well above average salery that means you can afford to keep your head afloat in this mental recession. Never complained about my commute, onwards and upwards for me!
What a sad materialistic individual you are, i feel very sorry for you but one day you will learn.
Exactly what is there to learn, that making a minimal sacrifice brings a happy life for you and your loved ones, please do tell!

dopplershift says...
3:36pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Murray mint wrote:
ohec wrote:
Likesadrink wrote: All those bemoaning commuters are jealous that some people get to have their cake and eat it, working for big money with great benefits in one of the world's most dynamic cities whilst getting to come back to leafy South Hampshire at the end of it with enough money to enjoy the best things our area has to offer. Sounds like a lack of ambition, I met plenty of people like this that had an annual experience of London a week before Christmas and complain that London "is too hectic"... Bless. No one that works in London does it with a gun to their head, we do it because we want to go on holiday to Barbados, drive a Merc, live in a 5 bed detached house and have a boat for the weekends. Well that's why we start to do it, eventually you realise you do it as you are working with ambitious, highly talented (the best in the country)co-workers earning a well above average salery that means you can afford to keep your head afloat in this mental recession. Never complained about my commute, onwards and upwards for me!
What a sad materialistic individual you are, i feel very sorry for you but one day you will learn.
Exactly what is there to learn, that making a minimal sacrifice brings a happy life for you and your loved ones, please do tell!
Yes please do tell? I did it for a few years and earnt a lot of money. Worked hard for it with pressure and responsibility. Now I've taken a step back and work close to where I live. I am proud of doing what I'm good at for the best money possible. My wife didn't complain as she is happy only working casually and had time to enjoy life by the sea and forest. No one should be made to feel bad about being materialistic as we all are to some degree. Not many people deliberately want the worst quality things in life. Why would you?
.
Also, I give plenty of time and money to charity and the community to help the lives of people who don't have what I do.
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anyway back to work..

southy says...
8:34pm Tue 14 Aug 12

Linesman wrote:
southy wrote:
ohec wrote:
Whilst i agree rail fares are disgustingly high so is the number of people that commute large distances you have to be mad to commute from South Hampshire to London, and its all about money they want high salaries and cheap housing. My Dad always used to say to me that if you can't get to work in 30 minutes you are either working or living in the wrong place. So the greed of the rail companies is matched by the commuters that use them.
Been saying more or less the same thing ohec, if you can't walk to work in reasonable amount of time, then you need to do some thing about it, like move closer to your job or change jobs
Or, as your idol, Norman Tebbit, once said, 'Get on your bike.'
Not my idol Lines and you know that, more of Torchie idol

Torchie1 says...
11:09pm Tue 14 Aug 12

southy wrote:
Linesman wrote:
southy wrote:
ohec wrote:
Whilst i agree rail fares are disgustingly high so is the number of people that commute large distances you have to be mad to commute from South Hampshire to London, and its all about money they want high salaries and cheap housing. My Dad always used to say to me that if you can't get to work in 30 minutes you are either working or living in the wrong place. So the greed of the rail companies is matched by the commuters that use them.
Been saying more or less the same thing ohec, if you can't walk to work in reasonable amount of time, then you need to do some thing about it, like move closer to your job or change jobs
Or, as your idol, Norman Tebbit, once said, 'Get on your bike.'
Not my idol Lines and you know that, more of Torchie idol
You should be grateful that there are people prepared to put themselves out in order to work, otherwise there would be no tax collected to pay your Benefits.

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