Compulsory HMO register to regulate Southampton landlords

Daily Echo: Henstead Road in the Polygon, Southampton Henstead Road in the Polygon, Southampton

ROGUE landlords in Southampton are to be targeted in a new compulsory licensing system for shared homes.

Labour council leaders want the landlords of 6,500 so-called houses of multiple occupation (HMOs) in the city to sign up to a new register to tackle cases of unsafe properties, poor management and anti-social behaviour.

However landlords last night warned rents would go up, the poor would be hit hardest and homelessness would rise.

The council said while there are many good landlords some had “significant problems”.

Landlords would have to pay £500 for a five-year licence for each property shared by three or more unrelated people.

They would be subjected to a “fit and proper person” test as well as property checks by council officers.

Breaches of licence conditions around antisocial behaviour, waste in gardens and lettings signs, could lead to prosecutions, or in serious cases see the council take over the management of a property.

The council expects to hire up to 15 new staff to run the “self-financing” scheme, which could bring in more than £3m over five years. It would be fully implemented by 2017.

Unjustified Roger Bell from the Southern Landlords Association said the £500 fee was “totally unjustified” and the poor would be “kicked in the teeth” by the scheme.

“The cost will be passed onto those least able to pay it. These are people due to force of circumstance who are forced to live in HMOs,” he said.

He said the “unintended consequence” would be rents going up and more homelessness in the city.

“We will be creating a cardboard city in Southampton because HMOs will be so difficult to achieve. The fact that Labour is pushing it through is an absolute travesty.”

Lorraine Barter from the Polygon campaign group Residents Action said: “It’s a good idea in principle but unless we’ve got access to a public register to get hold of property barons it’s not going to stop longterm residents fleeing HMO ghettos in the city. It should be £5,000 to pay for the extra enforcement.”

Cabinet member for housing Cllr Warwick Payne said: “Good landlords have nothing to fear with this scheme and will gain from the landlord sector having a better reputation in the city and aiming for higher standards across the board.

Rule “The aim is to improve neighbourhoods for all residents and we want to consult as widely as possible and take all views into account.”

An existing HMO licensing scheme covering houses of three storeys or more, shared by five or more unrelated people, has 392 properties registered in Southampton. Licences cost from £75.

The council has already implemented a new rule that means planning permission is required for all new HMOs in the city.

A 12-week consultation on the new scheme will be launched on September 3. It will be discussed at a Cabinet meeting on Tuesday next week.

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4:13pm Sat 18 Aug 12

loosehead says...

A good idea well done!
A good idea well done! loosehead
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5:00pm Sat 18 Aug 12

ohec says...

Similar schemes work well in other areas and if implemented properly could benefit the landlords by keeping a register so that bad tenants can be black listed or even traced in the event them doing a runner and it will ensure standards are kept up benefiting the tenants.
Similar schemes work well in other areas and if implemented properly could benefit the landlords by keeping a register so that bad tenants can be black listed or even traced in the event them doing a runner and it will ensure standards are kept up benefiting the tenants. ohec
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5:16pm Sat 18 Aug 12

chavfreezone says...

Great idea about time far to many dodgy landlords but theres loads of good ones as well i admit. How about a law making them keep the property in good condition rather than draging the whole area down as in parts of Swaythling. When did landlords care about the poor??
Great idea about time far to many dodgy landlords but theres loads of good ones as well i admit. How about a law making them keep the property in good condition rather than draging the whole area down as in parts of Swaythling. When did landlords care about the poor?? chavfreezone
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6:11pm Sat 18 Aug 12

stantheman46 says...

"Landlords would have to pay £500 for a five-year licence... "
Did I get it right? £500 for five years? well thats £100 per year. If its three bedroom property, then its £8.33 per month or £2.77 per room pm? Or am I wrong here?
"Landlords would have to pay £500 for a five-year licence... " Did I get it right? £500 for five years? well thats £100 per year. If its three bedroom property, then its £8.33 per month or £2.77 per room pm? Or am I wrong here? stantheman46
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6:25pm Sat 18 Aug 12

mrblunt says...

Most of these landlords have more than one property that is let.
£500 for a five years licence is a drop in the ocean compared to the amount of money they rake in.
It will only be the bad landlords that kick against this as to be registered, means that they will have to take responsibility for the property and the behaviour of the tennants that pay them good money.
Most of these landlords have more than one property that is let. £500 for a five years licence is a drop in the ocean compared to the amount of money they rake in. It will only be the bad landlords that kick against this as to be registered, means that they will have to take responsibility for the property and the behaviour of the tennants that pay them good money. mrblunt
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7:50pm Sat 18 Aug 12

HillsidePaul says...

This has been needed for years.

Typical bleating from slum landlords who think it is some kind of sin to spend even a tiny fraction of their profits on the upkeep of their homes and/or the safety of their tenants.

No good landlord ( of which there are many) will have a problem with this.

A City Council that's taking it's responsibility for housing in the City seriously at last.

Well done Cllr Payne.
This has been needed for years. Typical bleating from slum landlords who think it is some kind of sin to spend even a tiny fraction of their profits on the upkeep of their homes and/or the safety of their tenants. No good landlord ( of which there are many) will have a problem with this. A City Council that's taking it's responsibility for housing in the City seriously at last. Well done Cllr Payne. HillsidePaul
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7:56pm Sat 18 Aug 12

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

They should be named and shamed!
They should be named and shamed! Fatty x Ford Worker
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8:11pm Sat 18 Aug 12

bazzeroz says...

I know a landlord that owns several rented properties and doesn't even live in UK. Raking in thousands a year of taxpayers money and spending it in his now, country of choice. This can't be right surely?
I know a landlord that owns several rented properties and doesn't even live in UK. Raking in thousands a year of taxpayers money and spending it in his now, country of choice. This can't be right surely? bazzeroz
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8:08am Sun 19 Aug 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

A small step in right direction, which should be implemented immediately to sort sharks who exploit people in need of a roof to sleep under.

Why hang around till 2017? Is this NuLabour way of helping people by cashing on publicity now while kicking the issue into very long grass?

Do it NOW WITHOUT ANY DELAY.

Spokesperson for landlords bleating about poor people has got to be joking.

Since when these unsavoury blood suckers have started to care about the financial state of their victims???

How can hypocrite forget high amount of rents per room these obnoxious people are charging, if that reflects compassion or bit of humanity I will start believing in God and start worshiping in places where these parasites of humanity so called landlords go.

Strict laws to control rents should be reintroduced, otherwise this exploitation will continue.

Real answer to problem is to build more Council housing, and stop selling the current stock at reduced prices.
A small step in right direction, which should be implemented immediately to sort sharks who exploit people in need of a roof to sleep under. Why hang around till 2017? Is this NuLabour way of helping people by cashing on publicity now while kicking the issue into very long grass? Do it NOW WITHOUT ANY DELAY. Spokesperson for landlords bleating about poor people has got to be joking. Since when these unsavoury blood suckers have started to care about the financial state of their victims??? How can hypocrite forget high amount of rents per room these obnoxious people are charging, if that reflects compassion or bit of humanity I will start believing in God and start worshiping in places where these parasites of humanity so called landlords go. Strict laws to control rents should be reintroduced, otherwise this exploitation will continue. Real answer to problem is to build more Council housing, and stop selling the current stock at reduced prices. Paramjit Bahia
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9:09am Sun 19 Aug 12

Torchie1 says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
A small step in right direction, which should be implemented immediately to sort sharks who exploit people in need of a roof to sleep under.

Why hang around till 2017? Is this NuLabour way of helping people by cashing on publicity now while kicking the issue into very long grass?

Do it NOW WITHOUT ANY DELAY.

Spokesperson for landlords bleating about poor people has got to be joking.

Since when these unsavoury blood suckers have started to care about the financial state of their victims???

How can hypocrite forget high amount of rents per room these obnoxious people are charging, if that reflects compassion or bit of humanity I will start believing in God and start worshiping in places where these parasites of humanity so called landlords go.

Strict laws to control rents should be reintroduced, otherwise this exploitation will continue.

Real answer to problem is to build more Council housing, and stop selling the current stock at reduced prices.
"Selling the current stock at reduced prices" has been going on for a long time as you well know. How much advice did you offer Southy when he spotted the chance to buy a cheap Council house before Margaret Thatcher introduced the policy to allow others to do so? Good old socialism where the Southys and Bob Crows grab their share and protect it before telling everyone else how the redistribution of wealth should begin.
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: A small step in right direction, which should be implemented immediately to sort sharks who exploit people in need of a roof to sleep under. Why hang around till 2017? Is this NuLabour way of helping people by cashing on publicity now while kicking the issue into very long grass? Do it NOW WITHOUT ANY DELAY. Spokesperson for landlords bleating about poor people has got to be joking. Since when these unsavoury blood suckers have started to care about the financial state of their victims??? How can hypocrite forget high amount of rents per room these obnoxious people are charging, if that reflects compassion or bit of humanity I will start believing in God and start worshiping in places where these parasites of humanity so called landlords go. Strict laws to control rents should be reintroduced, otherwise this exploitation will continue. Real answer to problem is to build more Council housing, and stop selling the current stock at reduced prices.[/p][/quote]"Selling the current stock at reduced prices" has been going on for a long time as you well know. How much advice did you offer Southy when he spotted the chance to buy a cheap Council house before Margaret Thatcher introduced the policy to allow others to do so? Good old socialism where the Southys and Bob Crows grab their share and protect it before telling everyone else how the redistribution of wealth should begin. Torchie1
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9:31am Sun 19 Aug 12

loosehead says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
A small step in right direction, which should be implemented immediately to sort sharks who exploit people in need of a roof to sleep under.

Why hang around till 2017? Is this NuLabour way of helping people by cashing on publicity now while kicking the issue into very long grass?

Do it NOW WITHOUT ANY DELAY.

Spokesperson for landlords bleating about poor people has got to be joking.

Since when these unsavoury blood suckers have started to care about the financial state of their victims???

How can hypocrite forget high amount of rents per room these obnoxious people are charging, if that reflects compassion or bit of humanity I will start believing in God and start worshiping in places where these parasites of humanity so called landlords go.

Strict laws to control rents should be reintroduced, otherwise this exploitation will continue.

Real answer to problem is to build more Council housing, and stop selling the current stock at reduced prices.
Come on you know the tactics.keep us in power & this is what we'll do?
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: A small step in right direction, which should be implemented immediately to sort sharks who exploit people in need of a roof to sleep under. Why hang around till 2017? Is this NuLabour way of helping people by cashing on publicity now while kicking the issue into very long grass? Do it NOW WITHOUT ANY DELAY. Spokesperson for landlords bleating about poor people has got to be joking. Since when these unsavoury blood suckers have started to care about the financial state of their victims??? How can hypocrite forget high amount of rents per room these obnoxious people are charging, if that reflects compassion or bit of humanity I will start believing in God and start worshiping in places where these parasites of humanity so called landlords go. Strict laws to control rents should be reintroduced, otherwise this exploitation will continue. Real answer to problem is to build more Council housing, and stop selling the current stock at reduced prices.[/p][/quote]Come on you know the tactics.keep us in power & this is what we'll do? loosehead
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2:21pm Sun 19 Aug 12

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
A small step in right direction, which should be implemented immediately to sort sharks who exploit people in need of a roof to sleep under.

Why hang around till 2017? Is this NuLabour way of helping people by cashing on publicity now while kicking the issue into very long grass?

Do it NOW WITHOUT ANY DELAY.

Spokesperson for landlords bleating about poor people has got to be joking.

Since when these unsavoury blood suckers have started to care about the financial state of their victims???

How can hypocrite forget high amount of rents per room these obnoxious people are charging, if that reflects compassion or bit of humanity I will start believing in God and start worshiping in places where these parasites of humanity so called landlords go.

Strict laws to control rents should be reintroduced, otherwise this exploitation will continue.

Real answer to problem is to build more Council housing, and stop selling the current stock at reduced prices.
"Selling the current stock at reduced prices" has been going on for a long time as you well know. How much advice did you offer Southy when he spotted the chance to buy a cheap Council house before Margaret Thatcher introduced the policy to allow others to do so? Good old socialism where the Southys and Bob Crows grab their share and protect it before telling everyone else how the redistribution of wealth should begin.
Torchie now you are telling lies, you have been told many times, yes this house was bought for before Thatcher was PM in the 80's, and before the 80's council house was not cheap there was no discount nore was the houses cheaper than any where else in Southampton with the same design and the amount of land, this house cost just as much as the 3 bedroom houses in Parkside Ave.
Less of your BS
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: A small step in right direction, which should be implemented immediately to sort sharks who exploit people in need of a roof to sleep under. Why hang around till 2017? Is this NuLabour way of helping people by cashing on publicity now while kicking the issue into very long grass? Do it NOW WITHOUT ANY DELAY. Spokesperson for landlords bleating about poor people has got to be joking. Since when these unsavoury blood suckers have started to care about the financial state of their victims??? How can hypocrite forget high amount of rents per room these obnoxious people are charging, if that reflects compassion or bit of humanity I will start believing in God and start worshiping in places where these parasites of humanity so called landlords go. Strict laws to control rents should be reintroduced, otherwise this exploitation will continue. Real answer to problem is to build more Council housing, and stop selling the current stock at reduced prices.[/p][/quote]"Selling the current stock at reduced prices" has been going on for a long time as you well know. How much advice did you offer Southy when he spotted the chance to buy a cheap Council house before Margaret Thatcher introduced the policy to allow others to do so? Good old socialism where the Southys and Bob Crows grab their share and protect it before telling everyone else how the redistribution of wealth should begin.[/p][/quote]Torchie now you are telling lies, you have been told many times, yes this house was bought for before Thatcher was PM in the 80's, and before the 80's council house was not cheap there was no discount nore was the houses cheaper than any where else in Southampton with the same design and the amount of land, this house cost just as much as the 3 bedroom houses in Parkside Ave. Less of your BS southy
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2:37pm Sun 19 Aug 12

southy says...

Some thing else to Torchie, Socialism do not stop people owning there own home, or land, but it will tax you if your greed for more than you need, oh I remember you are all for the evil Comunity Charge Tax, where the less you got the more you pay, not every one like you torchie who wants the poor to pay for the rich to be even more richer.
Also Crow only lease the home he in.
And redistribution the wealth means the more evil you are in wanting more than your fair share the more you are tax and thats the way it should be.
Some thing else to Torchie, Socialism do not stop people owning there own home, or land, but it will tax you if your greed for more than you need, oh I remember you are all for the evil Comunity Charge Tax, where the less you got the more you pay, not every one like you torchie who wants the poor to pay for the rich to be even more richer. Also Crow only lease the home he in. And redistribution the wealth means the more evil you are in wanting more than your fair share the more you are tax and thats the way it should be. southy
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4:29pm Sun 19 Aug 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

southy wrote:
Some thing else to Torchie, Socialism do not stop people owning there own home, or land, but it will tax you if your greed for more than you need, oh I remember you are all for the evil Comunity Charge Tax, where the less you got the more you pay, not every one like you torchie who wants the poor to pay for the rich to be even more richer.
Also Crow only lease the home he in.
And redistribution the wealth means the more evil you are in wanting more than your fair share the more you are tax and thats the way it should be.
Pete you are trying to play violin to buffalos. You should be accepting the fact that some of Tory supporters on this site will simply invent stories to undermine people of on the left. You are not ever going to convince them. Just accept the fact that sheer nature of Internet allows people to post whatever they want. It is their right, which should be respected. So rather than biting their bate learn to ignore. Most people are intelligent capable of thinking for themselves. Considering most of them were not persuaded by comments of Tories on this site before elections, nor by ours for that matter, should prove my point.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Some thing else to Torchie, Socialism do not stop people owning there own home, or land, but it will tax you if your greed for more than you need, oh I remember you are all for the evil Comunity Charge Tax, where the less you got the more you pay, not every one like you torchie who wants the poor to pay for the rich to be even more richer. Also Crow only lease the home he in. And redistribution the wealth means the more evil you are in wanting more than your fair share the more you are tax and thats the way it should be.[/p][/quote]Pete you are trying to play violin to buffalos. You should be accepting the fact that some of Tory supporters on this site will simply invent stories to undermine people of on the left. You are not ever going to convince them. Just accept the fact that sheer nature of Internet allows people to post whatever they want. It is their right, which should be respected. So rather than biting their bate learn to ignore. Most people are intelligent capable of thinking for themselves. Considering most of them were not persuaded by comments of Tories on this site before elections, nor by ours for that matter, should prove my point. Paramjit Bahia
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5:08pm Sun 19 Aug 12

freemantlegirl2 says...

stantheman46 wrote:
"Landlords would have to pay £500 for a five-year licence... "
Did I get it right? £500 for five years? well thats £100 per year. If its three bedroom property, then its £8.33 per month or £2.77 per room pm? Or am I wrong here?
Beat me to it, enhances experience for landlords and tenants! v. good value for money! this is an area which has previously been subject to a lot of 'grey areas' - people have been exploited and as pointed out landlords of HMO's are often raking it in.

bring it on!
[quote][p][bold]stantheman46[/bold] wrote: "Landlords would have to pay £500 for a five-year licence... " Did I get it right? £500 for five years? well thats £100 per year. If its three bedroom property, then its £8.33 per month or £2.77 per room pm? Or am I wrong here?[/p][/quote]Beat me to it, enhances experience for landlords and tenants! v. good value for money! this is an area which has previously been subject to a lot of 'grey areas' - people have been exploited and as pointed out landlords of HMO's are often raking it in. bring it on! freemantlegirl2
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5:22pm Sun 19 Aug 12

Torchie1 says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
southy wrote:
Some thing else to Torchie, Socialism do not stop people owning there own home, or land, but it will tax you if your greed for more than you need, oh I remember you are all for the evil Comunity Charge Tax, where the less you got the more you pay, not every one like you torchie who wants the poor to pay for the rich to be even more richer.
Also Crow only lease the home he in.
And redistribution the wealth means the more evil you are in wanting more than your fair share the more you are tax and thats the way it should be.
Pete you are trying to play violin to buffalos. You should be accepting the fact that some of Tory supporters on this site will simply invent stories to undermine people of on the left. You are not ever going to convince them. Just accept the fact that sheer nature of Internet allows people to post whatever they want. It is their right, which should be respected. So rather than biting their bate learn to ignore. Most people are intelligent capable of thinking for themselves. Considering most of them were not persuaded by comments of Tories on this site before elections, nor by ours for that matter, should prove my point.
Something I said must have rattled you pair of socialist dinosaurs. Southy, which ever way you try to disguise it you removed a house from local authority ownership that could have been made available to a needy family. As you constantly enjoy telling everyone, your business made so much money that you could afford to retire early which suggests you could also have bought a house on the private market. The joint response from the pair of you makes me wonder if one used his position on the council to aid and abet the other to obtain a house that the majority of people didn't even realise could be bought privately.
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Some thing else to Torchie, Socialism do not stop people owning there own home, or land, but it will tax you if your greed for more than you need, oh I remember you are all for the evil Comunity Charge Tax, where the less you got the more you pay, not every one like you torchie who wants the poor to pay for the rich to be even more richer. Also Crow only lease the home he in. And redistribution the wealth means the more evil you are in wanting more than your fair share the more you are tax and thats the way it should be.[/p][/quote]Pete you are trying to play violin to buffalos. You should be accepting the fact that some of Tory supporters on this site will simply invent stories to undermine people of on the left. You are not ever going to convince them. Just accept the fact that sheer nature of Internet allows people to post whatever they want. It is their right, which should be respected. So rather than biting their bate learn to ignore. Most people are intelligent capable of thinking for themselves. Considering most of them were not persuaded by comments of Tories on this site before elections, nor by ours for that matter, should prove my point.[/p][/quote]Something I said must have rattled you pair of socialist dinosaurs. Southy, which ever way you try to disguise it you removed a house from local authority ownership that could have been made available to a needy family. As you constantly enjoy telling everyone, your business made so much money that you could afford to retire early which suggests you could also have bought a house on the private market. The joint response from the pair of you makes me wonder if one used his position on the council to aid and abet the other to obtain a house that the majority of people didn't even realise could be bought privately. Torchie1
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6:15pm Sun 19 Aug 12

loosehead says...

Torchie1 wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
southy wrote:
Some thing else to Torchie, Socialism do not stop people owning there own home, or land, but it will tax you if your greed for more than you need, oh I remember you are all for the evil Comunity Charge Tax, where the less you got the more you pay, not every one like you torchie who wants the poor to pay for the rich to be even more richer.
Also Crow only lease the home he in.
And redistribution the wealth means the more evil you are in wanting more than your fair share the more you are tax and thats the way it should be.
Pete you are trying to play violin to buffalos. You should be accepting the fact that some of Tory supporters on this site will simply invent stories to undermine people of on the left. You are not ever going to convince them. Just accept the fact that sheer nature of Internet allows people to post whatever they want. It is their right, which should be respected. So rather than biting their bate learn to ignore. Most people are intelligent capable of thinking for themselves. Considering most of them were not persuaded by comments of Tories on this site before elections, nor by ours for that matter, should prove my point.
Something I said must have rattled you pair of socialist dinosaurs. Southy, which ever way you try to disguise it you removed a house from local authority ownership that could have been made available to a needy family. As you constantly enjoy telling everyone, your business made so much money that you could afford to retire early which suggests you could also have bought a house on the private market. The joint response from the pair of you makes me wonder if one used his position on the council to aid and abet the other to obtain a house that the majority of people didn't even realise could be bought privately.
I've bought an ex council house if the council are willing to pay me the value the estate agents have quoted I'd quite happily sell it back to them
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Some thing else to Torchie, Socialism do not stop people owning there own home, or land, but it will tax you if your greed for more than you need, oh I remember you are all for the evil Comunity Charge Tax, where the less you got the more you pay, not every one like you torchie who wants the poor to pay for the rich to be even more richer. Also Crow only lease the home he in. And redistribution the wealth means the more evil you are in wanting more than your fair share the more you are tax and thats the way it should be.[/p][/quote]Pete you are trying to play violin to buffalos. You should be accepting the fact that some of Tory supporters on this site will simply invent stories to undermine people of on the left. You are not ever going to convince them. Just accept the fact that sheer nature of Internet allows people to post whatever they want. It is their right, which should be respected. So rather than biting their bate learn to ignore. Most people are intelligent capable of thinking for themselves. Considering most of them were not persuaded by comments of Tories on this site before elections, nor by ours for that matter, should prove my point.[/p][/quote]Something I said must have rattled you pair of socialist dinosaurs. Southy, which ever way you try to disguise it you removed a house from local authority ownership that could have been made available to a needy family. As you constantly enjoy telling everyone, your business made so much money that you could afford to retire early which suggests you could also have bought a house on the private market. The joint response from the pair of you makes me wonder if one used his position on the council to aid and abet the other to obtain a house that the majority of people didn't even realise could be bought privately.[/p][/quote]I've bought an ex council house if the council are willing to pay me the value the estate agents have quoted I'd quite happily sell it back to them loosehead
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9:04am Mon 20 Aug 12

RealTalkSouthampton says...

i Don't people full understand what the problem is. First of all if you went knocking on many council house tenants door they will tell you that thier landlord the council does not invest enough money in keeping the property up to good standards i.e. damp
Second of all if a tenant has problems with landlord than they can go to council(health and safety) or solisitors(legal).
Third, Having let property to students in the past. i have had my property registered with uni and council. but when the students decide not to pay or show there council tax exemptcertificate. Niether council nor uni are interested.
Forth, if you saw they way some people live and treat others property than you would understand why some landlords do not upgrade their properties.

We currently live in an age where everybody wants to take from somebode else. if this scheme and the money really went into improving housing conditions and something the community could see and benifit from. like funding into sports project ect, i'd welcome it.

But this is more red tape to fill council pockets by a two faced landlord...
i Don't people full understand what the problem is. First of all if you went knocking on many council house tenants door they will tell you that thier landlord the council does not invest enough money in keeping the property up to good standards i.e. damp Second of all if a tenant has problems with landlord than they can go to council(health and safety) or solisitors(legal). Third, Having let property to students in the past. i have had my property registered with uni and council. but when the students decide not to pay or show there council tax exemptcertificate. Niether council nor uni are interested. Forth, if you saw they way some people live and treat others property than you would understand why some landlords do not upgrade their properties. We currently live in an age where everybody wants to take from somebode else. if this scheme and the money really went into improving housing conditions and something the community could see and benifit from. like funding into sports project ect, i'd welcome it. But this is more red tape to fill council pockets by a two faced landlord... RealTalkSouthampton
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10:31am Mon 20 Aug 12

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Some thing else to Torchie, Socialism do not stop people owning there own home, or land, but it will tax you if your greed for more than you need, oh I remember you are all for the evil Comunity Charge Tax, where the less you got the more you pay, not every one like you torchie who wants the poor to pay for the rich to be even more richer.
Also Crow only lease the home he in.
And redistribution the wealth means the more evil you are in wanting more than your fair share the more you are tax and thats the way it should be.
'greed for more than you need'.

Translation - 'Do not aspire to improve yourself anymore than myself or I want a piece of what you have as well.'

How you counter greed with envy is anyone's guess.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Some thing else to Torchie, Socialism do not stop people owning there own home, or land, but it will tax you if your greed for more than you need, oh I remember you are all for the evil Comunity Charge Tax, where the less you got the more you pay, not every one like you torchie who wants the poor to pay for the rich to be even more richer. Also Crow only lease the home he in. And redistribution the wealth means the more evil you are in wanting more than your fair share the more you are tax and thats the way it should be.[/p][/quote]'greed for more than you need'. Translation - 'Do not aspire to improve yourself anymore than myself or I want a piece of what you have as well.' How you counter greed with envy is anyone's guess. Shoong
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11:06am Mon 20 Aug 12

-stiv- says...

As long as it's well handled, this is great.

Proper inspections with properly trained inspectors. Not just box ticking.
As long as it's well handled, this is great. Proper inspections with properly trained inspectors. Not just box ticking. -stiv-
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11:06am Mon 20 Aug 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

loosehead wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
southy wrote:
Some thing else to Torchie, Socialism do not stop people owning there own home, or land, but it will tax you if your greed for more than you need, oh I remember you are all for the evil Comunity Charge Tax, where the less you got the more you pay, not every one like you torchie who wants the poor to pay for the rich to be even more richer.
Also Crow only lease the home he in.
And redistribution the wealth means the more evil you are in wanting more than your fair share the more you are tax and thats the way it should be.
Pete you are trying to play violin to buffalos. You should be accepting the fact that some of Tory supporters on this site will simply invent stories to undermine people of on the left. You are not ever going to convince them. Just accept the fact that sheer nature of Internet allows people to post whatever they want. It is their right, which should be respected. So rather than biting their bate learn to ignore. Most people are intelligent capable of thinking for themselves. Considering most of them were not persuaded by comments of Tories on this site before elections, nor by ours for that matter, should prove my point.
Something I said must have rattled you pair of socialist dinosaurs. Southy, which ever way you try to disguise it you removed a house from local authority ownership that could have been made available to a needy family. As you constantly enjoy telling everyone, your business made so much money that you could afford to retire early which suggests you could also have bought a house on the private market. The joint response from the pair of you makes me wonder if one used his position on the council to aid and abet the other to obtain a house that the majority of people didn't even realise could be bought privately.
I've bought an ex council house if the council are willing to pay me the value the estate agents have quoted I'd quite happily sell it back to them
Loosehead, other day you were moaning about some socialists picking upon you because of your past as a landlord. You will recall that I replied to you and mentioned that 'some' of your own Tory supporting colleagues on this site behave far worse than people from left.

Above is the proof how TORY TROLLS ARE POSTING OUT RIGHT LIES.

Considering I did not even know Southy when I was a councillor, how could I have possibly advised him on buying his house?

If any of you have any evidence you should make it public.

Also on another thread comment has been posted by Dave1958 (one of local councillor (whom I have known for long time and trust) pointing out real facts on Erskin Court. Now ball is in your court, to prove that you are telling the truth.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Some thing else to Torchie, Socialism do not stop people owning there own home, or land, but it will tax you if your greed for more than you need, oh I remember you are all for the evil Comunity Charge Tax, where the less you got the more you pay, not every one like you torchie who wants the poor to pay for the rich to be even more richer. Also Crow only lease the home he in. And redistribution the wealth means the more evil you are in wanting more than your fair share the more you are tax and thats the way it should be.[/p][/quote]Pete you are trying to play violin to buffalos. You should be accepting the fact that some of Tory supporters on this site will simply invent stories to undermine people of on the left. You are not ever going to convince them. Just accept the fact that sheer nature of Internet allows people to post whatever they want. It is their right, which should be respected. So rather than biting their bate learn to ignore. Most people are intelligent capable of thinking for themselves. Considering most of them were not persuaded by comments of Tories on this site before elections, nor by ours for that matter, should prove my point.[/p][/quote]Something I said must have rattled you pair of socialist dinosaurs. Southy, which ever way you try to disguise it you removed a house from local authority ownership that could have been made available to a needy family. As you constantly enjoy telling everyone, your business made so much money that you could afford to retire early which suggests you could also have bought a house on the private market. The joint response from the pair of you makes me wonder if one used his position on the council to aid and abet the other to obtain a house that the majority of people didn't even realise could be bought privately.[/p][/quote]I've bought an ex council house if the council are willing to pay me the value the estate agents have quoted I'd quite happily sell it back to them[/p][/quote]Loosehead, other day you were moaning about some socialists picking upon you because of your past as a landlord. You will recall that I replied to you and mentioned that 'some' of your own Tory supporting colleagues on this site behave far worse than people from left. Above is the proof how TORY TROLLS ARE POSTING OUT RIGHT LIES. Considering I did not even know Southy when I was a councillor, how could I have possibly advised him on buying his house? If any of you have any evidence you should make it public. Also on another thread comment has been posted by Dave1958 (one of local councillor (whom I have known for long time and trust) pointing out real facts on Erskin Court. Now ball is in your court, to prove that you are telling the truth. Paramjit Bahia
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12:31pm Mon 20 Aug 12

loosehead says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
southy wrote:
Some thing else to Torchie, Socialism do not stop people owning there own home, or land, but it will tax you if your greed for more than you need, oh I remember you are all for the evil Comunity Charge Tax, where the less you got the more you pay, not every one like you torchie who wants the poor to pay for the rich to be even more richer.
Also Crow only lease the home he in.
And redistribution the wealth means the more evil you are in wanting more than your fair share the more you are tax and thats the way it should be.
Pete you are trying to play violin to buffalos. You should be accepting the fact that some of Tory supporters on this site will simply invent stories to undermine people of on the left. You are not ever going to convince them. Just accept the fact that sheer nature of Internet allows people to post whatever they want. It is their right, which should be respected. So rather than biting their bate learn to ignore. Most people are intelligent capable of thinking for themselves. Considering most of them were not persuaded by comments of Tories on this site before elections, nor by ours for that matter, should prove my point.
Something I said must have rattled you pair of socialist dinosaurs. Southy, which ever way you try to disguise it you removed a house from local authority ownership that could have been made available to a needy family. As you constantly enjoy telling everyone, your business made so much money that you could afford to retire early which suggests you could also have bought a house on the private market. The joint response from the pair of you makes me wonder if one used his position on the council to aid and abet the other to obtain a house that the majority of people didn't even realise could be bought privately.
I've bought an ex council house if the council are willing to pay me the value the estate agents have quoted I'd quite happily sell it back to them
Loosehead, other day you were moaning about some socialists picking upon you because of your past as a landlord. You will recall that I replied to you and mentioned that 'some' of your own Tory supporting colleagues on this site behave far worse than people from left.

Above is the proof how TORY TROLLS ARE POSTING OUT RIGHT LIES.

Considering I did not even know Southy when I was a councillor, how could I have possibly advised him on buying his house?

If any of you have any evidence you should make it public.

Also on another thread comment has been posted by Dave1958 (one of local councillor (whom I have known for long time and trust) pointing out real facts on Erskin Court. Now ball is in your court, to prove that you are telling the truth.
I never said it?
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Some thing else to Torchie, Socialism do not stop people owning there own home, or land, but it will tax you if your greed for more than you need, oh I remember you are all for the evil Comunity Charge Tax, where the less you got the more you pay, not every one like you torchie who wants the poor to pay for the rich to be even more richer. Also Crow only lease the home he in. And redistribution the wealth means the more evil you are in wanting more than your fair share the more you are tax and thats the way it should be.[/p][/quote]Pete you are trying to play violin to buffalos. You should be accepting the fact that some of Tory supporters on this site will simply invent stories to undermine people of on the left. You are not ever going to convince them. Just accept the fact that sheer nature of Internet allows people to post whatever they want. It is their right, which should be respected. So rather than biting their bate learn to ignore. Most people are intelligent capable of thinking for themselves. Considering most of them were not persuaded by comments of Tories on this site before elections, nor by ours for that matter, should prove my point.[/p][/quote]Something I said must have rattled you pair of socialist dinosaurs. Southy, which ever way you try to disguise it you removed a house from local authority ownership that could have been made available to a needy family. As you constantly enjoy telling everyone, your business made so much money that you could afford to retire early which suggests you could also have bought a house on the private market. The joint response from the pair of you makes me wonder if one used his position on the council to aid and abet the other to obtain a house that the majority of people didn't even realise could be bought privately.[/p][/quote]I've bought an ex council house if the council are willing to pay me the value the estate agents have quoted I'd quite happily sell it back to them[/p][/quote]Loosehead, other day you were moaning about some socialists picking upon you because of your past as a landlord. You will recall that I replied to you and mentioned that 'some' of your own Tory supporting colleagues on this site behave far worse than people from left. Above is the proof how TORY TROLLS ARE POSTING OUT RIGHT LIES. Considering I did not even know Southy when I was a councillor, how could I have possibly advised him on buying his house? If any of you have any evidence you should make it public. Also on another thread comment has been posted by Dave1958 (one of local councillor (whom I have known for long time and trust) pointing out real facts on Erskin Court. Now ball is in your court, to prove that you are telling the truth.[/p][/quote]I never said it? loosehead
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12:35pm Mon 20 Aug 12

loosehead says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
southy wrote:
Some thing else to Torchie, Socialism do not stop people owning there own home, or land, but it will tax you if your greed for more than you need, oh I remember you are all for the evil Comunity Charge Tax, where the less you got the more you pay, not every one like you torchie who wants the poor to pay for the rich to be even more richer.
Also Crow only lease the home he in.
And redistribution the wealth means the more evil you are in wanting more than your fair share the more you are tax and thats the way it should be.
Pete you are trying to play violin to buffalos. You should be accepting the fact that some of Tory supporters on this site will simply invent stories to undermine people of on the left. You are not ever going to convince them. Just accept the fact that sheer nature of Internet allows people to post whatever they want. It is their right, which should be respected. So rather than biting their bate learn to ignore. Most people are intelligent capable of thinking for themselves. Considering most of them were not persuaded by comments of Tories on this site before elections, nor by ours for that matter, should prove my point.
Something I said must have rattled you pair of socialist dinosaurs. Southy, which ever way you try to disguise it you removed a house from local authority ownership that could have been made available to a needy family. As you constantly enjoy telling everyone, your business made so much money that you could afford to retire early which suggests you could also have bought a house on the private market. The joint response from the pair of you makes me wonder if one used his position on the council to aid and abet the other to obtain a house that the majority of people didn't even realise could be bought privately.
I've bought an ex council house if the council are willing to pay me the value the estate agents have quoted I'd quite happily sell it back to them
Loosehead, other day you were moaning about some socialists picking upon you because of your past as a landlord. You will recall that I replied to you and mentioned that 'some' of your own Tory supporting colleagues on this site behave far worse than people from left.

Above is the proof how TORY TROLLS ARE POSTING OUT RIGHT LIES.

Considering I did not even know Southy when I was a councillor, how could I have possibly advised him on buying his house?

If any of you have any evidence you should make it public.

Also on another thread comment has been posted by Dave1958 (one of local councillor (whom I have known for long time and trust) pointing out real facts on Erskin Court. Now ball is in your court, to prove that you are telling the truth.
Paramjit I was talking to an elderly resident of Erskine court who went to the meeting with Warwick Payne & Thomas & Morrell. Payne gave the other two an ultimatum back me or be sacked?
He then said he was shutting Erskine Court down.
Now this lady had voted Labour because they promised not to shut Erskine down she wasn't a Tory but she might be now as she said they(tories) never lied to us they said they would shut it & they kept to it Labour LIED
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Some thing else to Torchie, Socialism do not stop people owning there own home, or land, but it will tax you if your greed for more than you need, oh I remember you are all for the evil Comunity Charge Tax, where the less you got the more you pay, not every one like you torchie who wants the poor to pay for the rich to be even more richer. Also Crow only lease the home he in. And redistribution the wealth means the more evil you are in wanting more than your fair share the more you are tax and thats the way it should be.[/p][/quote]Pete you are trying to play violin to buffalos. You should be accepting the fact that some of Tory supporters on this site will simply invent stories to undermine people of on the left. You are not ever going to convince them. Just accept the fact that sheer nature of Internet allows people to post whatever they want. It is their right, which should be respected. So rather than biting their bate learn to ignore. Most people are intelligent capable of thinking for themselves. Considering most of them were not persuaded by comments of Tories on this site before elections, nor by ours for that matter, should prove my point.[/p][/quote]Something I said must have rattled you pair of socialist dinosaurs. Southy, which ever way you try to disguise it you removed a house from local authority ownership that could have been made available to a needy family. As you constantly enjoy telling everyone, your business made so much money that you could afford to retire early which suggests you could also have bought a house on the private market. The joint response from the pair of you makes me wonder if one used his position on the council to aid and abet the other to obtain a house that the majority of people didn't even realise could be bought privately.[/p][/quote]I've bought an ex council house if the council are willing to pay me the value the estate agents have quoted I'd quite happily sell it back to them[/p][/quote]Loosehead, other day you were moaning about some socialists picking upon you because of your past as a landlord. You will recall that I replied to you and mentioned that 'some' of your own Tory supporting colleagues on this site behave far worse than people from left. Above is the proof how TORY TROLLS ARE POSTING OUT RIGHT LIES. Considering I did not even know Southy when I was a councillor, how could I have possibly advised him on buying his house? If any of you have any evidence you should make it public. Also on another thread comment has been posted by Dave1958 (one of local councillor (whom I have known for long time and trust) pointing out real facts on Erskin Court. Now ball is in your court, to prove that you are telling the truth.[/p][/quote]Paramjit I was talking to an elderly resident of Erskine court who went to the meeting with Warwick Payne & Thomas & Morrell. Payne gave the other two an ultimatum back me or be sacked? He then said he was shutting Erskine Court down. Now this lady had voted Labour because they promised not to shut Erskine down she wasn't a Tory but she might be now as she said they(tories) never lied to us they said they would shut it & they kept to it Labour LIED loosehead
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1:11pm Mon 20 Aug 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

loosehead wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
southy wrote:
Some thing else to Torchie, Socialism do not stop people owning there own home, or land, but it will tax you if your greed for more than you need, oh I remember you are all for the evil Comunity Charge Tax, where the less you got the more you pay, not every one like you torchie who wants the poor to pay for the rich to be even more richer.
Also Crow only lease the home he in.
And redistribution the wealth means the more evil you are in wanting more than your fair share the more you are tax and thats the way it should be.
Pete you are trying to play violin to buffalos. You should be accepting the fact that some of Tory supporters on this site will simply invent stories to undermine people of on the left. You are not ever going to convince them. Just accept the fact that sheer nature of Internet allows people to post whatever they want. It is their right, which should be respected. So rather than biting their bate learn to ignore. Most people are intelligent capable of thinking for themselves. Considering most of them were not persuaded by comments of Tories on this site before elections, nor by ours for that matter, should prove my point.
Something I said must have rattled you pair of socialist dinosaurs. Southy, which ever way you try to disguise it you removed a house from local authority ownership that could have been made available to a needy family. As you constantly enjoy telling everyone, your business made so much money that you could afford to retire early which suggests you could also have bought a house on the private market. The joint response from the pair of you makes me wonder if one used his position on the council to aid and abet the other to obtain a house that the majority of people didn't even realise could be bought privately.
I've bought an ex council house if the council are willing to pay me the value the estate agents have quoted I'd quite happily sell it back to them
Loosehead, other day you were moaning about some socialists picking upon you because of your past as a landlord. You will recall that I replied to you and mentioned that 'some' of your own Tory supporting colleagues on this site behave far worse than people from left.

Above is the proof how TORY TROLLS ARE POSTING OUT RIGHT LIES.

Considering I did not even know Southy when I was a councillor, how could I have possibly advised him on buying his house?

If any of you have any evidence you should make it public.

Also on another thread comment has been posted by Dave1958 (one of local councillor (whom I have known for long time and trust) pointing out real facts on Erskin Court. Now ball is in your court, to prove that you are telling the truth.
Paramjit I was talking to an elderly resident of Erskine court who went to the meeting with Warwick Payne & Thomas & Morrell. Payne gave the other two an ultimatum back me or be sacked?
He then said he was shutting Erskine Court down.
Now this lady had voted Labour because they promised not to shut Erskine down she wasn't a Tory but she might be now as she said they(tories) never lied to us they said they would shut it & they kept to it Labour LIED
Ok I will check that out with Don Thomas and Dave within couple of days and will come back to you.

But why are you silent on OUT RIGHT LIE POSTED BY YOUR OTHER TORY COLLEAGUE ABOUT ME GIVING IDEAS TO SOUTHY ON BUYING HIS HOUSE?

If you are really old type Conservative gentleman you will publically disassociate from such people, and shout loud and clear that such liars are disgrace and should have no place in your beloved party.

Somebody like late Norman Best would have done that, which is why even some of us did not agree with him politically most of us always respected him a lot, as a true cricket loving gentleman.

By the way few Tory brats on this site do not rattle me, as you may have noticed I hardly ever reply to their posts and I think Southy also has broad enough shoulders. But since you had with some justification objected to others, I should be forgiven for asking you to sort your own side first. As former rugby player you should not be behaving like a stereotyped football hooligan. So disassociate from liars on your side of the fence.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Some thing else to Torchie, Socialism do not stop people owning there own home, or land, but it will tax you if your greed for more than you need, oh I remember you are all for the evil Comunity Charge Tax, where the less you got the more you pay, not every one like you torchie who wants the poor to pay for the rich to be even more richer. Also Crow only lease the home he in. And redistribution the wealth means the more evil you are in wanting more than your fair share the more you are tax and thats the way it should be.[/p][/quote]Pete you are trying to play violin to buffalos. You should be accepting the fact that some of Tory supporters on this site will simply invent stories to undermine people of on the left. You are not ever going to convince them. Just accept the fact that sheer nature of Internet allows people to post whatever they want. It is their right, which should be respected. So rather than biting their bate learn to ignore. Most people are intelligent capable of thinking for themselves. Considering most of them were not persuaded by comments of Tories on this site before elections, nor by ours for that matter, should prove my point.[/p][/quote]Something I said must have rattled you pair of socialist dinosaurs. Southy, which ever way you try to disguise it you removed a house from local authority ownership that could have been made available to a needy family. As you constantly enjoy telling everyone, your business made so much money that you could afford to retire early which suggests you could also have bought a house on the private market. The joint response from the pair of you makes me wonder if one used his position on the council to aid and abet the other to obtain a house that the majority of people didn't even realise could be bought privately.[/p][/quote]I've bought an ex council house if the council are willing to pay me the value the estate agents have quoted I'd quite happily sell it back to them[/p][/quote]Loosehead, other day you were moaning about some socialists picking upon you because of your past as a landlord. You will recall that I replied to you and mentioned that 'some' of your own Tory supporting colleagues on this site behave far worse than people from left. Above is the proof how TORY TROLLS ARE POSTING OUT RIGHT LIES. Considering I did not even know Southy when I was a councillor, how could I have possibly advised him on buying his house? If any of you have any evidence you should make it public. Also on another thread comment has been posted by Dave1958 (one of local councillor (whom I have known for long time and trust) pointing out real facts on Erskin Court. Now ball is in your court, to prove that you are telling the truth.[/p][/quote]Paramjit I was talking to an elderly resident of Erskine court who went to the meeting with Warwick Payne & Thomas & Morrell. Payne gave the other two an ultimatum back me or be sacked? He then said he was shutting Erskine Court down. Now this lady had voted Labour because they promised not to shut Erskine down she wasn't a Tory but she might be now as she said they(tories) never lied to us they said they would shut it & they kept to it Labour LIED[/p][/quote]Ok I will check that out with Don Thomas and Dave within couple of days and will come back to you. But why are you silent on OUT RIGHT LIE POSTED BY YOUR OTHER TORY COLLEAGUE ABOUT ME GIVING IDEAS TO SOUTHY ON BUYING HIS HOUSE? If you are really old type Conservative gentleman you will publically disassociate from such people, and shout loud and clear that such liars are disgrace and should have no place in your beloved party. Somebody like late Norman Best would have done that, which is why even some of us did not agree with him politically most of us always respected him a lot, as a true cricket loving gentleman. By the way few Tory brats on this site do not rattle me, as you may have noticed I hardly ever reply to their posts and I think Southy also has broad enough shoulders. But since you had with some justification objected to others, I should be forgiven for asking you to sort your own side first. As former rugby player you should not be behaving like a stereotyped football hooligan. So disassociate from liars on your side of the fence. Paramjit Bahia
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12:06pm Wed 22 Aug 12

skeptik says...

In my 70 years I have heard it all before. Get Labour out or get the Tories out and it will all be put right. It has been nonsense in all of that time and as we are where we are after failed attempt after failed attempt, you have - to be a true believer - yet they both have their ardent supporters! Still some here appear to get a high from the game with a spot of grown up name calling thrown in. Perhaps we get dumbed down politics for a reason.
In my 70 years I have heard it all before. Get Labour out or get the Tories out and it will all be put right. It has been nonsense in all of that time and as we are where we are after failed attempt after failed attempt, you have - to be a true believer - yet they both have their ardent supporters! Still some here appear to get a high from the game with a spot of grown up name calling thrown in. Perhaps we get dumbed down politics for a reason. skeptik
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9:46pm Wed 22 Aug 12

loosehead says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
southy wrote:
Some thing else to Torchie, Socialism do not stop people owning there own home, or land, but it will tax you if your greed for more than you need, oh I remember you are all for the evil Comunity Charge Tax, where the less you got the more you pay, not every one like you torchie who wants the poor to pay for the rich to be even more richer.
Also Crow only lease the home he in.
And redistribution the wealth means the more evil you are in wanting more than your fair share the more you are tax and thats the way it should be.
Pete you are trying to play violin to buffalos. You should be accepting the fact that some of Tory supporters on this site will simply invent stories to undermine people of on the left. You are not ever going to convince them. Just accept the fact that sheer nature of Internet allows people to post whatever they want. It is their right, which should be respected. So rather than biting their bate learn to ignore. Most people are intelligent capable of thinking for themselves. Considering most of them were not persuaded by comments of Tories on this site before elections, nor by ours for that matter, should prove my point.
Something I said must have rattled you pair of socialist dinosaurs. Southy, which ever way you try to disguise it you removed a house from local authority ownership that could have been made available to a needy family. As you constantly enjoy telling everyone, your business made so much money that you could afford to retire early which suggests you could also have bought a house on the private market. The joint response from the pair of you makes me wonder if one used his position on the council to aid and abet the other to obtain a house that the majority of people didn't even realise could be bought privately.
I've bought an ex council house if the council are willing to pay me the value the estate agents have quoted I'd quite happily sell it back to them
Loosehead, other day you were moaning about some socialists picking upon you because of your past as a landlord. You will recall that I replied to you and mentioned that 'some' of your own Tory supporting colleagues on this site behave far worse than people from left.

Above is the proof how TORY TROLLS ARE POSTING OUT RIGHT LIES.

Considering I did not even know Southy when I was a councillor, how could I have possibly advised him on buying his house?

If any of you have any evidence you should make it public.

Also on another thread comment has been posted by Dave1958 (one of local councillor (whom I have known for long time and trust) pointing out real facts on Erskin Court. Now ball is in your court, to prove that you are telling the truth.
Paramjit I was talking to an elderly resident of Erskine court who went to the meeting with Warwick Payne & Thomas & Morrell. Payne gave the other two an ultimatum back me or be sacked?
He then said he was shutting Erskine Court down.
Now this lady had voted Labour because they promised not to shut Erskine down she wasn't a Tory but she might be now as she said they(tories) never lied to us they said they would shut it & they kept to it Labour LIED
Ok I will check that out with Don Thomas and Dave within couple of days and will come back to you.

But why are you silent on OUT RIGHT LIE POSTED BY YOUR OTHER TORY COLLEAGUE ABOUT ME GIVING IDEAS TO SOUTHY ON BUYING HIS HOUSE?

If you are really old type Conservative gentleman you will publically disassociate from such people, and shout loud and clear that such liars are disgrace and should have no place in your beloved party.

Somebody like late Norman Best would have done that, which is why even some of us did not agree with him politically most of us always respected him a lot, as a true cricket loving gentleman.

By the way few Tory brats on this site do not rattle me, as you may have noticed I hardly ever reply to their posts and I think Southy also has broad enough shoulders. But since you had with some justification objected to others, I should be forgiven for asking you to sort your own side first. As former rugby player you should not be behaving like a stereotyped football hooligan. So disassociate from liars on your side of the fence.
What Tory colleague?
I'm not a member of any party & if this person has issued a lie about you they should print a retraction with an apology
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Some thing else to Torchie, Socialism do not stop people owning there own home, or land, but it will tax you if your greed for more than you need, oh I remember you are all for the evil Comunity Charge Tax, where the less you got the more you pay, not every one like you torchie who wants the poor to pay for the rich to be even more richer. Also Crow only lease the home he in. And redistribution the wealth means the more evil you are in wanting more than your fair share the more you are tax and thats the way it should be.[/p][/quote]Pete you are trying to play violin to buffalos. You should be accepting the fact that some of Tory supporters on this site will simply invent stories to undermine people of on the left. You are not ever going to convince them. Just accept the fact that sheer nature of Internet allows people to post whatever they want. It is their right, which should be respected. So rather than biting their bate learn to ignore. Most people are intelligent capable of thinking for themselves. Considering most of them were not persuaded by comments of Tories on this site before elections, nor by ours for that matter, should prove my point.[/p][/quote]Something I said must have rattled you pair of socialist dinosaurs. Southy, which ever way you try to disguise it you removed a house from local authority ownership that could have been made available to a needy family. As you constantly enjoy telling everyone, your business made so much money that you could afford to retire early which suggests you could also have bought a house on the private market. The joint response from the pair of you makes me wonder if one used his position on the council to aid and abet the other to obtain a house that the majority of people didn't even realise could be bought privately.[/p][/quote]I've bought an ex council house if the council are willing to pay me the value the estate agents have quoted I'd quite happily sell it back to them[/p][/quote]Loosehead, other day you were moaning about some socialists picking upon you because of your past as a landlord. You will recall that I replied to you and mentioned that 'some' of your own Tory supporting colleagues on this site behave far worse than people from left. Above is the proof how TORY TROLLS ARE POSTING OUT RIGHT LIES. Considering I did not even know Southy when I was a councillor, how could I have possibly advised him on buying his house? If any of you have any evidence you should make it public. Also on another thread comment has been posted by Dave1958 (one of local councillor (whom I have known for long time and trust) pointing out real facts on Erskin Court. Now ball is in your court, to prove that you are telling the truth.[/p][/quote]Paramjit I was talking to an elderly resident of Erskine court who went to the meeting with Warwick Payne & Thomas & Morrell. Payne gave the other two an ultimatum back me or be sacked? He then said he was shutting Erskine Court down. Now this lady had voted Labour because they promised not to shut Erskine down she wasn't a Tory but she might be now as she said they(tories) never lied to us they said they would shut it & they kept to it Labour LIED[/p][/quote]Ok I will check that out with Don Thomas and Dave within couple of days and will come back to you. But why are you silent on OUT RIGHT LIE POSTED BY YOUR OTHER TORY COLLEAGUE ABOUT ME GIVING IDEAS TO SOUTHY ON BUYING HIS HOUSE? If you are really old type Conservative gentleman you will publically disassociate from such people, and shout loud and clear that such liars are disgrace and should have no place in your beloved party. Somebody like late Norman Best would have done that, which is why even some of us did not agree with him politically most of us always respected him a lot, as a true cricket loving gentleman. By the way few Tory brats on this site do not rattle me, as you may have noticed I hardly ever reply to their posts and I think Southy also has broad enough shoulders. But since you had with some justification objected to others, I should be forgiven for asking you to sort your own side first. As former rugby player you should not be behaving like a stereotyped football hooligan. So disassociate from liars on your side of the fence.[/p][/quote]What Tory colleague? I'm not a member of any party & if this person has issued a lie about you they should print a retraction with an apology loosehead
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