Green belt bid causes anxiety (From Daily Echo)
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Green belt bid causes anxiety
4:12pm Wednesday 5th September 2012 in News
By Tom Moseley, Parliamentary Correspondent
HAMPSHIRE countryside campaigners say they are “filled with anxiety” over a new development threat to green spaces.
The Government wants to rewrite planning rules to speed up development in an attempt to boost the flagging economy.
Chancellor George Osborne, pictured, is set to encourage councils to build on green belt land as long as an equivalent space elsewhere is brought into the green belt.
Mr Osborne said it was “absolutely ludicrous” that planning applications took so long to be processed.
But Anthony McEwen, director of the Hampshire branch of the Campaign to Protect Rural England, said: “We view these proposals with concern.
“As far as Hampshire is concerned, it can only fill one with anxiety.”
The planned shake-up, which is also believed to include curbs on residents’ rights to oppose development in their area, comes after the Government watered down changes to planning rules that had caused an outcry among campaigners and backbench Tory MPs.
Romsey and Southampton North MP Caroline Nokes , Steve Brine , who represents Winchester , and Meon Valley MP George Hollingbery all signed a recent open letter to the Prime Minister urging him to amend the draft proposals before they were eventually watered down.
Now it seems the Government will return to the thorny issue as part of its Infrastructure Bill, which aims to kickstart developments worth £40 billion.
Mr McEwen said few details were available at this stage.
But he added: “The fact that they are being resurrected so soon after a major overhaul of the planning laws, which has not yet been tested, is bound to cause concern.
“There is an intrinsic value to the Hampshire countryside – it’s not a simple jigsaw that we are dealing with.
“Proposals that are not properly thought through can only cause problems downstream.”
Some MPs and business chiefs say there is an urgent need for more affordable houses to be built in Hampshire, where space is limited but demand is high.
Mr McEwen insisted: “We are absolutely up for affordable housing, but the planning laws are not what is preventing affordable housing at the moment.”
Developers are to blame for not wanting to build on appropriate sites, he said.
Comments(15)
Paramjit Bahia
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5:23pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Same old Tories, they will never change.
Trust the Tories and live to regret.
Good bye green belts. RIP
bigfella777
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5:25pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Dresnez
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7:44pm Wed 5 Sep 12
An island 7miles by 9miles roughly with a population of 90000 +.
Once the countryside has gone it is gone forever.
I am not a country toff either.
There are a lot of built up areas crying out for redevelopment. Leaving run down blocks of ugly buildings intact brings an area down.
First time buyers get a much harder time of it in Jersey and local people are not rich. Someone has to work in the shops, clean the toilets etc.
The rich are in a minority, although there are a lot of rich people per sq mile.
Please don't spoil Hampshire.
The Wickham Man
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8:11pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Paramjit Bahia wrote:...And if they had voted for more protection you'd say something like "Typical tories protecting all their toff friends in the countryside so they can preserve their views and stop working class people from having houses"
Is this the same Tory guy whose leader used to suggest something on the lines of Green Conservatism?
Same old Tories, they will never change.
Trust the Tories and live to regret.
Good bye green belts. RIP
Your biassed and twisted views are predictable, unintelligent and worthless.
loosehead
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9:20pm Wed 5 Sep 12
The Wickham Man
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9:48pm Wed 5 Sep 12
loosehead wrote:Exactly Loosehead. That is what this is all about - stopping spurious irrelevant exaggerated objections holding up sensible development. A totally different scenario to this totally fictitious assault on the countryside invented by Paramjit and others on this thread.
New container port on the waterside Yeah!
loosehead
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9:54pm Wed 5 Sep 12
The Wickham Man wrote:I can't believe people on the Waterside say they're stopping Southampton from stealing their waterfront?
loosehead wrote:Exactly Loosehead. That is what this is all about - stopping spurious irrelevant exaggerated objections holding up sensible development. A totally different scenario to this totally fictitious assault on the countryside invented by Paramjit and others on this thread.
New container port on the waterside Yeah!
This area is called Dibden Bay what Bay? the Port of Southampton reclaimed that years ago for the sole purpose of dock related use yet their Solicitors didn't tell them this when they moved into their new homes which were built on forest land?
yellowcard
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10:57pm Wed 5 Sep 12
Paramjit Bahia wrote:and labour are so fond of telling the truth
Is this the same Tory guy whose leader used to suggest something on the lines of Green Conservatism?
Same old Tories, they will never change.
Trust the Tories and live to regret.
Good bye green belts. RIP
andysaints007
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12:43am Thu 6 Sep 12
Dresnez wrote:Whats Jersey got to do with anything - pathetic comment
If Jersey in the Channel Islands can protect it's country side, then there is no excuse for the UK.
An island 7miles by 9miles roughly with a population of 90000 +.
Once the countryside has gone it is gone forever.
I am not a country toff either.
There are a lot of built up areas crying out for redevelopment. Leaving run down blocks of ugly buildings intact brings an area down.
First time buyers get a much harder time of it in Jersey and local people are not rich. Someone has to work in the shops, clean the toilets etc.
The rich are in a minority, although there are a lot of rich people per sq mile.
Please don't spoil Hampshire.
Poppy22
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1:57am Thu 6 Sep 12
Dresnez wrote:Hear hear.
If Jersey in the Channel Islands can protect it's country side, then there is no excuse for the UK. An island 7miles by 9miles roughly with a population of 90000 +. Once the countryside has gone it is gone forever. I am not a country toff either. There are a lot of built up areas crying out for redevelopment. Leaving run down blocks of ugly buildings intact brings an area down. First time buyers get a much harder time of it in Jersey and local people are not rich. Someone has to work in the shops, clean the toilets etc. The rich are in a minority, although there are a lot of rich people per sq mile. Please don't spoil Hampshire.
Instead of continually using brownfield sites for yet more business premises (or, worse, leaving them as barren sites), which just bring more people into the area, use those sites for affordable housing, especially as the sites are usually in town or city centres so close to facilities without the need for cars or costly public transport. That would also benefit single people or young couples wanting to get onto the property ladder.
Leave our green fields alone - what's being planned by Eastleigh Borough Council, for example, is abhorrent.
This government seems hell bent on becoming the most unpopular government ever and it's about time a petition was started to get them out of power early! They have no idea what the population wants and doesn't want; they're just hell bent on listening to their own "types" in high-level businesses whilst ignoring the general population.
Worse is that the Liberals, who used to represent local communities here very well, are just going along with all this and becoming just as bad. Not one of our local councillors is listening to what we are saying or asking and we never see them locally either now.
I was all for the Liberals, and the coalition, based on the pre election campaigns and immediately after election but now I'm totally against all 3 major parties and wont be voting for any of them in future.
The Wickham Man
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6:53am Thu 6 Sep 12
Poppy22 wrote:Don't vote green Poppy. What you get is a complete mess of innacurate scare stories and absurd unworkable pinky politics. Remember there is the brownest field site of all right in the middle of SOuthamptons industrial heartland and yet the greens led the most factually innacurate campaign against it Britain has ever seen.
Dresnez wrote:Hear hear.
If Jersey in the Channel Islands can protect it's country side, then there is no excuse for the UK. An island 7miles by 9miles roughly with a population of 90000 +. Once the countryside has gone it is gone forever. I am not a country toff either. There are a lot of built up areas crying out for redevelopment. Leaving run down blocks of ugly buildings intact brings an area down. First time buyers get a much harder time of it in Jersey and local people are not rich. Someone has to work in the shops, clean the toilets etc. The rich are in a minority, although there are a lot of rich people per sq mile. Please don't spoil Hampshire.
Instead of continually using brownfield sites for yet more business premises (or, worse, leaving them as barren sites), which just bring more people into the area, use those sites for affordable housing, especially as the sites are usually in town or city centres so close to facilities without the need for cars or costly public transport. That would also benefit single people or young couples wanting to get onto the property ladder.
Leave our green fields alone - what's being planned by Eastleigh Borough Council, for example, is abhorrent.
This government seems hell bent on becoming the most unpopular government ever and it's about time a petition was started to get them out of power early! They have no idea what the population wants and doesn't want; they're just hell bent on listening to their own "types" in high-level businesses whilst ignoring the general population.
Worse is that the Liberals, who used to represent local communities here very well, are just going along with all this and becoming just as bad. Not one of our local councillors is listening to what we are saying or asking and we never see them locally either now.
I was all for the Liberals, and the coalition, based on the pre election campaigns and immediately after election but now I'm totally against all 3 major parties and wont be voting for any of them in future.
loosehead
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8:16am Thu 6 Sep 12
The Wickham Man wrote:Sorry but where?
Poppy22 wrote:Don't vote green Poppy. What you get is a complete mess of innacurate scare stories and absurd unworkable pinky politics. Remember there is the brownest field site of all right in the middle of SOuthamptons industrial heartland and yet the greens led the most factually innacurate campaign against it Britain has ever seen.
Dresnez wrote:Hear hear.
If Jersey in the Channel Islands can protect it's country side, then there is no excuse for the UK. An island 7miles by 9miles roughly with a population of 90000 +. Once the countryside has gone it is gone forever. I am not a country toff either. There are a lot of built up areas crying out for redevelopment. Leaving run down blocks of ugly buildings intact brings an area down. First time buyers get a much harder time of it in Jersey and local people are not rich. Someone has to work in the shops, clean the toilets etc. The rich are in a minority, although there are a lot of rich people per sq mile. Please don't spoil Hampshire.
Instead of continually using brownfield sites for yet more business premises (or, worse, leaving them as barren sites), which just bring more people into the area, use those sites for affordable housing, especially as the sites are usually in town or city centres so close to facilities without the need for cars or costly public transport. That would also benefit single people or young couples wanting to get onto the property ladder.
Leave our green fields alone - what's being planned by Eastleigh Borough Council, for example, is abhorrent.
This government seems hell bent on becoming the most unpopular government ever and it's about time a petition was started to get them out of power early! They have no idea what the population wants and doesn't want; they're just hell bent on listening to their own "types" in high-level businesses whilst ignoring the general population.
Worse is that the Liberals, who used to represent local communities here very well, are just going along with all this and becoming just as bad. Not one of our local councillors is listening to what we are saying or asking and we never see them locally either now.
I was all for the Liberals, and the coalition, based on the pre election campaigns and immediately after election but now I'm totally against all 3 major parties and wont be voting for any of them in future.
Shoong
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10:30am Thu 6 Sep 12
Paramjit Bahia wrote:You seem like quite a clued up person in your own funny little way but unfortunately you're let down a bit by your complete gullibility.
Is this the same Tory guy whose leader used to suggest something on the lines of Green Conservatism?
Same old Tories, they will never change.
Trust the Tories and live to regret.
Good bye green belts. RIP
ohec
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11:33am Thu 6 Sep 12
mtdiablo says...
4:18pm Wed 5 Sep 12