Former police officer Matthew Cherry jailed for 10 years for attack on pregnant ex-girlfriend

Daily Echo: Matthew Cherry Matthew Cherry

EVIL Dorset Police officer Matthew Cherry has been found guilty of attacking his pregnant ex–girlfriend in an attempt to destroy their unborn child.

The 35-year-old broke down crying in the dock as the jury delivered the guilty verdict at Winchester Crown Court yesterday.

Describing the attack as “appalling” Judge Keith Cutler jailed Cherry for 10 years for attempting to cause grievous bodily harm and told him: “Every day she looks at her healthy, lovely young son she will no doubt be reminded of his father.”

Cherry wore a balaclava, hoodie and gloves when he attacked six-months-pregnant Caroline Craft in her flat in Norwich Avenue, Bournemouth, on March 24 last year.

He punched her in the face, stomach and back between 20 and 30 times in an attempt to bring on the miscarriage of the baby he did not want.

The court had heard that Cherry had tried to persuade Miss Craft to have an abortion, claiming he could not afford the baby. He even said he’d thought about punching her in the stomach to cause a miscarriage.

Miss Craft suffered extensive bruising following the attack but thankfully her unborn child was unharmed.

She went on to have a healthy baby boy called Archie who is now 15 months old.

Prosecutor Matthew Jewell read part of Miss Craft’s victim impact statement in which she said Cherry’s actions were “unspeakable” and she was still trying to come to terms with the “terrifying” events of that day.

Sentencing Cherry, Judge Cutler said: “It was a pernicious and evil act on your part. There was a high degree of planning.

“It was clear you used your skills and training as a police officer to ensure your mobile phone was left to give yourself an alibi and to mask your appearance.”

He said Cherry even took a vacuum cleaner to the scene pretending to be a cleaner, and destroyed his clothes.

Judge Cutler told Cherry he was only found out when he made the mistake of not destroying a Nike shoe box matching the trainers worn by the attacker.

The judge added: “It is only through good fortune and not anything that you did that Caroline Craft was able to only suffer the physical injuries she has recovered from.

“The emotional scarring will no doubt be with her for life.”

An officer for nine years

MATTHEW Cherry had been working as a patrol officer for Dorset Police for nine years when he carried out the terrifying attack on Caroline Craft and his unborn son.

He was brought up in Lytchett Matravers and attended local schools before going to university and completing a degree.

Once his studies were over, Cherry tried his hand at personal training before making the decision to join the police.

He worked on uniform patrol in Poole and met Caroline Craft through mutual friends. In his spare time, Cherry turned to property developing. He resigned from the police in November last year and was living in Wimpson Lane, Southampton.

 

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12:46pm Fri 7 Sep 12

steelpaul says...

Christ, thats two strong sentences handed out today, wonder if the judge got out of the wrong side of the bed, about time these people were given proper sentences instead of the usual community service rubbish, Serves the scumbag right
Christ, thats two strong sentences handed out today, wonder if the judge got out of the wrong side of the bed, about time these people were given proper sentences instead of the usual community service rubbish, Serves the scumbag right steelpaul

1:16pm Fri 7 Sep 12

OddlyPat says...

Brave girl and he deserved that and more!
Brave girl and he deserved that and more! OddlyPat

1:21pm Fri 7 Sep 12

daddyrichie869 says...

Finally justice has been done on 1 case at least! Now time 2 make it happen on EVERY case!
Finally justice has been done on 1 case at least! Now time 2 make it happen on EVERY case! daddyrichie869

1:25pm Fri 7 Sep 12

static kill says...

That'll teach him not to take his work home with him.
That'll teach him not to take his work home with him. static kill

1:31pm Fri 7 Sep 12

spooki says...

static kill wrote:
That'll teach him not to take his work home with him.
Hmm not a good comment!

All I can say is "good"! To do that to someone (two people?) and then deny it, what a coward. There are stronger words for this 'person' - I won't say 'man' - but they'll get blocked. Enjoy your time in jail Mr Policeman. Maybe you'll do some growing up in there.
[quote][p][bold]static kill[/bold] wrote: That'll teach him not to take his work home with him.[/p][/quote]Hmm not a good comment! All I can say is "good"! To do that to someone (two people?) and then deny it, what a coward. There are stronger words for this 'person' - I won't say 'man' - but they'll get blocked. Enjoy your time in jail Mr Policeman. Maybe you'll do some growing up in there. spooki

1:34pm Fri 7 Sep 12

media8ter says...

Rule 43 (45) for him then, he'll get his comeuppance inside, i hope so anyway.
To try and kill your own unborn child, how sick is that, i hope some one does to him what he done to her and her unborn child.
Rule 43 (45) for him then, he'll get his comeuppance inside, i hope so anyway. To try and kill your own unborn child, how sick is that, i hope some one does to him what he done to her and her unborn child. media8ter

1:36pm Fri 7 Sep 12

High Treason says...

steelpaul wrote:
Christ, thats two strong sentences handed out today, wonder if the judge got out of the wrong side of the bed, about time these people were given proper sentences instead of the usual community service rubbish, Serves the scumbag right
"thats two strong sentences handed out today"

Afraid not. Out after serving less than half the sentence. Much better to make the criminals serve the full term and add to it if they misbehave.
[quote][p][bold]steelpaul[/bold] wrote: Christ, thats two strong sentences handed out today, wonder if the judge got out of the wrong side of the bed, about time these people were given proper sentences instead of the usual community service rubbish, Serves the scumbag right[/p][/quote]"thats two strong sentences handed out today" Afraid not. Out after serving less than half the sentence. Much better to make the criminals serve the full term and add to it if they misbehave. High Treason

1:37pm Fri 7 Sep 12

BournemouthMum says...

What he did was reprehensible - trying to hurt not only his child's mother but his OWN child too! And the fact that he was a serving police officer at the time only serves to make his actions worse - he would have been in a position to arrest and charge a member of the public for breaking the law and that makes him a total hypocrite.

I can't believe someone could be so heartless and cruel as to do what he did. And the poor child will one day know that his own father tried to terminate his life before he was born. Unbelievable. Thank goodness the judge saw sense and sentenced him appropriately.
What he did was reprehensible - trying to hurt not only his child's mother but his OWN child too! And the fact that he was a serving police officer at the time only serves to make his actions worse - he would have been in a position to arrest and charge a member of the public for breaking the law and that makes him a total hypocrite. I can't believe someone could be so heartless and cruel as to do what he did. And the poor child will one day know that his own father tried to terminate his life before he was born. Unbelievable. Thank goodness the judge saw sense and sentenced him appropriately. BournemouthMum

1:56pm Fri 7 Sep 12

bigfella777 says...

I bet he will be popular in the nick.
I bet he will be popular in the nick. bigfella777

2:08pm Fri 7 Sep 12

KA says...

What a coward!! thought he could get away with it because he's a police officer no doubt.. which makes it even worse.. scumbag !!
What a coward!! thought he could get away with it because he's a police officer no doubt.. which makes it even worse.. scumbag !! KA

2:09pm Fri 7 Sep 12

muscliffman says...

The headline use of 'former' misleads, he WAS a Police Officer at the time of this dreadful offence.
If a violent liar like this can remain in the Police with these aspects of his mentality apparently going undetected it should be a cause for concern.
The headline use of 'former' misleads, he WAS a Police Officer at the time of this dreadful offence. If a violent liar like this can remain in the Police with these aspects of his mentality apparently going undetected it should be a cause for concern. muscliffman

2:20pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Ozmosis says...

He'll get time off for good behaviour (assuming he can manage that) but it will be a living hell for it. Once the other lags find out he's ex plod, his card will be marked. Don't drop the soap pal!
He'll get time off for good behaviour (assuming he can manage that) but it will be a living hell for it. Once the other lags find out he's ex plod, his card will be marked. Don't drop the soap pal! Ozmosis

2:22pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Georgem says...

muscliffman wrote:
The headline use of 'former' misleads, he WAS a Police Officer at the time of this dreadful offence.
If a violent liar like this can remain in the Police with these aspects of his mentality apparently going undetected it should be a cause for concern.
Well, he was a former officer at the time of sentencing, as the headline states.

So tell me, how do you propose we detect that someone is a violent liar? I expect we could put a checkbox on the police application form marked "I am a violent liar who will punch his own girlfriend in the stomach to abort a child", but I don't think that's going to fool anyone.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: The headline use of 'former' misleads, he WAS a Police Officer at the time of this dreadful offence. If a violent liar like this can remain in the Police with these aspects of his mentality apparently going undetected it should be a cause for concern.[/p][/quote]Well, he was a former officer at the time of sentencing, as the headline states. So tell me, how do you propose we detect that someone is a violent liar? I expect we could put a checkbox on the police application form marked "I am a violent liar who will punch his own girlfriend in the stomach to abort a child", but I don't think that's going to fool anyone. Georgem

2:38pm Fri 7 Sep 12

bmthbouncer says...

thank god i am happy that this thug is getting served with what he deserves. as a teenager he caused my life hell because he had a huge ego, well i doubt that ego is going to do much now.
thank god i am happy that this thug is getting served with what he deserves. as a teenager he caused my life hell because he had a huge ego, well i doubt that ego is going to do much now. bmthbouncer

4:10pm Fri 7 Sep 12

muscliffman says...

Georgem wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
The headline use of 'former' misleads, he WAS a Police Officer at the time of this dreadful offence.
If a violent liar like this can remain in the Police with these aspects of his mentality apparently going undetected it should be a cause for concern.
Well, he was a former officer at the time of sentencing, as the headline states.

So tell me, how do you propose we detect that someone is a violent liar? I expect we could put a checkbox on the police application form marked "I am a violent liar who will punch his own girlfriend in the stomach to abort a child", but I don't think that's going to fool anyone.
I would have thought most people capable of this type of serious crime would display other personality/behaviou
r issues - at least immediately prior to the event.
I am not knocking the Police themselves, to their credit normally they do spot bad apples.
But this guy regardless of the date of sentencing was in a very responsible work place at the time of the offence - and colleagues apparently did not notice he was loosing it.
A subsequent post including 'this thug is getting served with what he deserves. as a teenager he caused my life hell because he had a huge ego' is quite interesting.
[quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: The headline use of 'former' misleads, he WAS a Police Officer at the time of this dreadful offence. If a violent liar like this can remain in the Police with these aspects of his mentality apparently going undetected it should be a cause for concern.[/p][/quote]Well, he was a former officer at the time of sentencing, as the headline states. So tell me, how do you propose we detect that someone is a violent liar? I expect we could put a checkbox on the police application form marked "I am a violent liar who will punch his own girlfriend in the stomach to abort a child", but I don't think that's going to fool anyone.[/p][/quote]I would have thought most people capable of this type of serious crime would display other personality/behaviou r issues - at least immediately prior to the event. I am not knocking the Police themselves, to their credit normally they do spot bad apples. But this guy regardless of the date of sentencing was in a very responsible work place at the time of the offence - and colleagues apparently did not notice he was loosing it. A subsequent post including 'this thug is getting served with what he deserves. as a teenager he caused my life hell because he had a huge ego' is quite interesting. muscliffman

4:29pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Laura85 says...

Well I never saw that 1 coming being an ex copper. I hope this lady and her son have peace and can live happy lives.
Well I never saw that 1 coming being an ex copper. I hope this lady and her son have peace and can live happy lives. Laura85

4:30pm Fri 7 Sep 12

bazzeroz says...

bmthbouncer wrote:
thank god i am happy that this thug is getting served with what he deserves. as a teenager he caused my life hell because he had a huge ego, well i doubt that ego is going to do much now.
Do tell.
[quote][p][bold]bmthbouncer[/bold] wrote: thank god i am happy that this thug is getting served with what he deserves. as a teenager he caused my life hell because he had a huge ego, well i doubt that ego is going to do much now.[/p][/quote]Do tell. bazzeroz

4:31pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Linesman says...

As an ex-Cop, I fancy he will be getting a dose of his own medicine while his is detained at Her Majesty's Pleasure.

That will be a case of the punishment fitting the crime.
As an ex-Cop, I fancy he will be getting a dose of his own medicine while his is detained at Her Majesty's Pleasure. That will be a case of the punishment fitting the crime. Linesman

5:05pm Fri 7 Sep 12

street warrior says...

"What a Policeman gets sentenced?" Clearly not in with the masonic group, I'm supprised the federation didn't make up some covering story for him?
"What a Policeman gets sentenced?" Clearly not in with the masonic group, I'm supprised the federation didn't make up some covering story for him? street warrior

5:08pm Fri 7 Sep 12

street warrior says...

Of course as he resigned from the force his pension will be protected for when he retires....Very nice
Of course as he resigned from the force his pension will be protected for when he retires....Very nice street warrior

5:34pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Georgem says...

street warrior wrote:
Of course as he resigned from the force his pension will be protected for when he retires....Very nice
Why shouldn't it be?
[quote][p][bold]street warrior[/bold] wrote: Of course as he resigned from the force his pension will be protected for when he retires....Very nice[/p][/quote]Why shouldn't it be? Georgem

6:09pm Fri 7 Sep 12

KA says...

Georgem..he was a police officer when he commited the crime ok he resigned before the trial.. why was that do you think ?
Georgem..he was a police officer when he commited the crime ok he resigned before the trial.. why was that do you think ? KA

6:22pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Vars1234 says...

High Treason wrote:
steelpaul wrote:
Christ, thats two strong sentences handed out today, wonder if the judge got out of the wrong side of the bed, about time these people were given proper sentences instead of the usual community service rubbish, Serves the scumbag right
"thats two strong sentences handed out today"

Afraid not. Out after serving less than half the sentence. Much better to make the criminals serve the full term and add to it if they misbehave.
High treason, people get released on licence for some of their sentence so that they can be monitored in the community, which for him will be at a multi agency level. That way if he misbehaves or if his risk increases he can be sent straight back into custody without first going to court, only to be released again if the parole board feels he is safe to be released. If they just got released at the end of their sentence straight back to fully fledged freedom there is nothing to say his risk to others would be any less and society would not be protected. Licences exist for good reason.
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steelpaul[/bold] wrote: Christ, thats two strong sentences handed out today, wonder if the judge got out of the wrong side of the bed, about time these people were given proper sentences instead of the usual community service rubbish, Serves the scumbag right[/p][/quote]"thats two strong sentences handed out today" Afraid not. Out after serving less than half the sentence. Much better to make the criminals serve the full term and add to it if they misbehave.[/p][/quote]High treason, people get released on licence for some of their sentence so that they can be monitored in the community, which for him will be at a multi agency level. That way if he misbehaves or if his risk increases he can be sent straight back into custody without first going to court, only to be released again if the parole board feels he is safe to be released. If they just got released at the end of their sentence straight back to fully fledged freedom there is nothing to say his risk to others would be any less and society would not be protected. Licences exist for good reason. Vars1234

7:13pm Fri 7 Sep 12

willygetaway says...

i wonder how many times he stood in a court of law and his word was taken as gospel by clown magistrates ?
i wonder how many times he stood in a court of law and his word was taken as gospel by clown magistrates ? willygetaway

7:31pm Fri 7 Sep 12

PaddyDucks says...

Policeman: that's the correct term.
Constable if you direct conversation with them.
The term 'Officer' has no meaning, nor does it qualify.
Policeman: that's the correct term. Constable if you direct conversation with them. The term 'Officer' has no meaning, nor does it qualify. PaddyDucks

7:58pm Fri 7 Sep 12

cherries189 says...

typical facist bully boy, probably didnt think he would get in trouble and could get away with anything and to be honest normaly they do.
typical facist bully boy, probably didnt think he would get in trouble and could get away with anything and to be honest normaly they do. cherries189

8:41pm Fri 7 Sep 12

WellI'llBeDamned says...

Did he get 10 years because he's ex police? I suffered for 10 years and my ex never got a custodial until he'd not attended probation or his alcohol/drugs meetings!!!
Did he get 10 years because he's ex police? I suffered for 10 years and my ex never got a custodial until he'd not attended probation or his alcohol/drugs meetings!!! WellI'llBeDamned

8:41pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Sickofidiotsonhere says...

cherries189 wrote:
typical facist bully boy, probably didnt think he would get in trouble and could get away with anything and to be honest normaly they do.
Seriously mate, are you for real? This is one horrible bloke out of thousands yet all you can do is have a go at the Police. How about a little praise for the officers who actually caught him and managed to get him convicted through the courts (which I'm sure is not an easy thing to do these days) despite the offender sadly once being one of their own and going out of his way to actively cover his tracks. This bloke got what he deserved. Job well done.
[quote][p][bold]cherries189[/bold] wrote: typical facist bully boy, probably didnt think he would get in trouble and could get away with anything and to be honest normaly they do.[/p][/quote]Seriously mate, are you for real? This is one horrible bloke out of thousands yet all you can do is have a go at the Police. How about a little praise for the officers who actually caught him and managed to get him convicted through the courts (which I'm sure is not an easy thing to do these days) despite the offender sadly once being one of their own and going out of his way to actively cover his tracks. This bloke got what he deserved. Job well done. Sickofidiotsonhere

8:49pm Fri 7 Sep 12

brooking1974 says...

Have you read the case notes - this is a big stitch up! No concrete evidence whatsoever against this man.
Have you read the case notes - this is a big stitch up! No concrete evidence whatsoever against this man. brooking1974

8:50pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Benny Dorm says...

PaddyDucks: almost correct. It's Police Officer. Officially, there is no such term as policeman or policewoman anymore. Both male & female officers are called police officers.

In general, about this story I would say there was clearly a bad apple in the barrel but I can't see what the police could have done to stop him being hired. As someone said earlier, the police could hardly have put an 'I am a violent wife/girlfriend/unbo
rn baby beater - tick Y/N on the police application form. He clearly passed all the checks and had no previous - but this does not mean he was not capable of doing something awful in the future.

It's a bit like CRB checks for a teacher or child care person. Just because they have passed a CRB check it does not mean that they are not potentially a peadophile as all it means is that they have not been done for breaking any laws.

I would say hats off to Dorset Police, clearly they did not shirk from relentlessly pursuing one of their own and making sure he was put before the courts. One bad apple does not a bad barrel make.
PaddyDucks: almost correct. It's Police Officer. Officially, there is no such term as policeman or policewoman anymore. Both male & female officers are called police officers. In general, about this story I would say there was clearly a bad apple in the barrel but I can't see what the police could have done to stop him being hired. As someone said earlier, the police could hardly have put an 'I am a violent wife/girlfriend/unbo rn baby beater - tick Y/N on the police application form. He clearly passed all the checks and had no previous - but this does not mean he was not capable of doing something awful in the future. It's a bit like CRB checks for a teacher or child care person. Just because they have passed a CRB check it does not mean that they are not potentially a peadophile as all it means is that they have not been done for breaking any laws. I would say hats off to Dorset Police, clearly they did not shirk from relentlessly pursuing one of their own and making sure he was put before the courts. One bad apple does not a bad barrel make. Benny Dorm

8:57pm Fri 7 Sep 12

brooking1974 says...

This guy did not commit this crime! It is a stitch up!!
This guy did not commit this crime! It is a stitch up!! brooking1974

9:09pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Sickofidiotsonhere says...

brooking1974 wrote:
This guy did not commit this crime! It is a stitch up!!
How do you know?
[quote][p][bold]brooking1974[/bold] wrote: This guy did not commit this crime! It is a stitch up!![/p][/quote]How do you know? Sickofidiotsonhere

9:29pm Fri 7 Sep 12

brooking1974 says...

I have followed the case closely. No DNA whatsoever. I have even heard that the victim originally said it was not him and then later changed her story! Also, the victim was supposedly punched 30 times (and he is supposed to be big) yet was in hospital for 1 hour and given paracetamol (considering she was pregnant cannot have been too much).
I have followed the case closely. No DNA whatsoever. I have even heard that the victim originally said it was not him and then later changed her story! Also, the victim was supposedly punched 30 times (and he is supposed to be big) yet was in hospital for 1 hour and given paracetamol (considering she was pregnant cannot have been too much). brooking1974

10:05pm Fri 7 Sep 12

cantthinkofone says...

spooki wrote:
static kill wrote:
That'll teach him not to take his work home with him.
Hmm not a good comment!

All I can say is "good"! To do that to someone (two people?) and then deny it, what a coward. There are stronger words for this 'person' - I won't say 'man' - but they'll get blocked. Enjoy your time in jail Mr Policeman. Maybe you'll do some growing up in there.
Quite the opposite, it's a very astute comment.

In the last 22 years there have been 1,433 deaths of people whilst either in police custody or immediately after police contact. There have been zero convictions.

I'm sure *most* of them are innocent tragedies. But all 1,433? It stretches credibility, especially when the conduct of some officers is brought to light. Enfield is a good illustration of that.

And if someone is working in a culture that makes them believe they're untouchable, it's hardly surprising that one or two will believe that extends to their personal life.

Most police officers are well-intentioned I'm sure. But even the *good* ones are often guilty of failing to speak out against their rogue colleagues - even when questioned. This has been illustrated repeatedly, from Blair Peach to Ian Tomlinson. The code of 'omerta' is not unique to the Mafia.
[quote][p][bold]spooki[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]static kill[/bold] wrote: That'll teach him not to take his work home with him.[/p][/quote]Hmm not a good comment! All I can say is "good"! To do that to someone (two people?) and then deny it, what a coward. There are stronger words for this 'person' - I won't say 'man' - but they'll get blocked. Enjoy your time in jail Mr Policeman. Maybe you'll do some growing up in there.[/p][/quote]Quite the opposite, it's a very astute comment. In the last 22 years there have been 1,433 deaths of people whilst either in police custody or immediately after police contact. There have been zero convictions. I'm sure *most* of them are innocent tragedies. But all 1,433? It stretches credibility, especially when the conduct of some officers is brought to light. Enfield is a good illustration of that. And if someone is working in a culture that makes them believe they're untouchable, it's hardly surprising that one or two will believe that extends to their personal life. Most police officers are well-intentioned I'm sure. But even the *good* ones are often guilty of failing to speak out against their rogue colleagues - even when questioned. This has been illustrated repeatedly, from Blair Peach to Ian Tomlinson. The code of 'omerta' is not unique to the Mafia. cantthinkofone

10:07pm Fri 7 Sep 12

cantthinkofone says...

Benny Dorm wrote:
PaddyDucks: almost correct. It's Police Officer. Officially, there is no such term as policeman or policewoman anymore. Both male & female officers are called police officers.

In general, about this story I would say there was clearly a bad apple in the barrel but I can't see what the police could have done to stop him being hired. As someone said earlier, the police could hardly have put an 'I am a violent wife/girlfriend/unbo

rn baby beater - tick Y/N on the police application form. He clearly passed all the checks and had no previous - but this does not mean he was not capable of doing something awful in the future.

It's a bit like CRB checks for a teacher or child care person. Just because they have passed a CRB check it does not mean that they are not potentially a peadophile as all it means is that they have not been done for breaking any laws.

I would say hats off to Dorset Police, clearly they did not shirk from relentlessly pursuing one of their own and making sure he was put before the courts. One bad apple does not a bad barrel make.
I'll add that I agree with your last paragraph. Dorset Police certainly deserve credit for that, and perhaps it's a sign that the culture is slowly changing. One can only hope so.
[quote][p][bold]Benny Dorm[/bold] wrote: PaddyDucks: almost correct. It's Police Officer. Officially, there is no such term as policeman or policewoman anymore. Both male & female officers are called police officers. In general, about this story I would say there was clearly a bad apple in the barrel but I can't see what the police could have done to stop him being hired. As someone said earlier, the police could hardly have put an 'I am a violent wife/girlfriend/unbo rn baby beater - tick Y/N on the police application form. He clearly passed all the checks and had no previous - but this does not mean he was not capable of doing something awful in the future. It's a bit like CRB checks for a teacher or child care person. Just because they have passed a CRB check it does not mean that they are not potentially a peadophile as all it means is that they have not been done for breaking any laws. I would say hats off to Dorset Police, clearly they did not shirk from relentlessly pursuing one of their own and making sure he was put before the courts. One bad apple does not a bad barrel make.[/p][/quote]I'll add that I agree with your last paragraph. Dorset Police certainly deserve credit for that, and perhaps it's a sign that the culture is slowly changing. One can only hope so. cantthinkofone

10:17pm Fri 7 Sep 12

cantthinkofone says...

Vars1234 wrote:
High Treason wrote:
steelpaul wrote:
Christ, thats two strong sentences handed out today, wonder if the judge got out of the wrong side of the bed, about time these people were given proper sentences instead of the usual community service rubbish, Serves the scumbag right
"thats two strong sentences handed out today"

Afraid not. Out after serving less than half the sentence. Much better to make the criminals serve the full term and add to it if they misbehave.
High treason, people get released on licence for some of their sentence so that they can be monitored in the community, which for him will be at a multi agency level. That way if he misbehaves or if his risk increases he can be sent straight back into custody without first going to court, only to be released again if the parole board feels he is safe to be released. If they just got released at the end of their sentence straight back to fully fledged freedom there is nothing to say his risk to others would be any less and society would not be protected. Licences exist for good reason.
Well said. I agree. Rehabilitation has to be more important than punishment, for the safety of everyone else. It's unfortunate that society hasn't evolved beyond an overwhelming blood-**** for vengeance though.
[quote][p][bold]Vars1234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steelpaul[/bold] wrote: Christ, thats two strong sentences handed out today, wonder if the judge got out of the wrong side of the bed, about time these people were given proper sentences instead of the usual community service rubbish, Serves the scumbag right[/p][/quote]"thats two strong sentences handed out today" Afraid not. Out after serving less than half the sentence. Much better to make the criminals serve the full term and add to it if they misbehave.[/p][/quote]High treason, people get released on licence for some of their sentence so that they can be monitored in the community, which for him will be at a multi agency level. That way if he misbehaves or if his risk increases he can be sent straight back into custody without first going to court, only to be released again if the parole board feels he is safe to be released. If they just got released at the end of their sentence straight back to fully fledged freedom there is nothing to say his risk to others would be any less and society would not be protected. Licences exist for good reason.[/p][/quote]Well said. I agree. Rehabilitation has to be more important than punishment, for the safety of everyone else. It's unfortunate that society hasn't evolved beyond an overwhelming blood-**** for vengeance though. cantthinkofone

11:00pm Fri 7 Sep 12

cantthinkofone says...

Software censored out 'l u s t' again lol.

But I've seen others post in uncensored. Weird.
Software censored out 'l u s t' again lol. But I've seen others post in uncensored. Weird. cantthinkofone

11:08pm Fri 7 Sep 12

Facewagon says...

brooking1974 wrote:
I have followed the case closely. No DNA whatsoever. I have even heard that the victim originally said it was not him and then later changed her story! Also, the victim was supposedly punched 30 times (and he is supposed to be big) yet was in hospital for 1 hour and given paracetamol (considering she was pregnant cannot have been too much).
There was obviously enough evidence to convince the jury that he was guilty.
[quote][p][bold]brooking1974[/bold] wrote: I have followed the case closely. No DNA whatsoever. I have even heard that the victim originally said it was not him and then later changed her story! Also, the victim was supposedly punched 30 times (and he is supposed to be big) yet was in hospital for 1 hour and given paracetamol (considering she was pregnant cannot have been too much).[/p][/quote]There was obviously enough evidence to convince the jury that he was guilty. Facewagon

4:22am Sat 8 Sep 12

BIGTONE says...

Winchester Crown have won the Ball and Chain award several times for their reputation of sending down.
Winchester Crown have won the Ball and Chain award several times for their reputation of sending down. BIGTONE

5:12am Sat 8 Sep 12

Old Boscombe Lad says...

GOOD. This made my day!
GOOD. This made my day! Old Boscombe Lad

6:38am Sat 8 Sep 12

EGHH says...

Good result. No place for scum like this in the British Police Force. I hope the his fellow prisoners give him a really hard time. They don't like coppers inside and they don't like people who hurt women or kids even unborn ones.
Good result. No place for scum like this in the British Police Force. I hope the his fellow prisoners give him a really hard time. They don't like coppers inside and they don't like people who hurt women or kids even unborn ones. EGHH

9:32am Sat 8 Sep 12

Boscomite says...

I do wish the Echo would employ a few journalists instead of a bunch of "creative" writers. Your job is to report the facts, not to express your own feelings on the stories you cover. To start a story with the words "EVIL Dorset Police officer" is not reporting. I may well agree with your sentiments, but it's not your job to tell me he's evil. It's up to me to make an informed decision based on the facts.
I do wish the Echo would employ a few journalists instead of a bunch of "creative" writers. Your job is to report the facts, not to express your own feelings on the stories you cover. To start a story with the words "EVIL Dorset Police officer" is not reporting. I may well agree with your sentiments, but it's not your job to tell me he's evil. It's up to me to make an informed decision based on the facts. Boscomite

9:33am Sat 8 Sep 12

street warrior says...

The man is an out and out bully, he thought his federation friends would be able to cover up for him, just like they do for so many of their colleagues, but I praise who ever the officer might have been who put his head above the parapet for possibly raising the issue, not an easy task in an organisation where each officer is expected to snitch on their own! But if you do snitch then expect very little support from your so called colleagues and from the organisation, especially senior rank officers
The man is an out and out bully, he thought his federation friends would be able to cover up for him, just like they do for so many of their colleagues, but I praise who ever the officer might have been who put his head above the parapet for possibly raising the issue, not an easy task in an organisation where each officer is expected to snitch on their own! But if you do snitch then expect very little support from your so called colleagues and from the organisation, especially senior rank officers street warrior

9:38am Sat 8 Sep 12

downmoor-ch63 says...

brooking1974 wrote:
I have followed the case closely. No DNA whatsoever. I have even heard that the victim originally said it was not him and then later changed her story! Also, the victim was supposedly punched 30 times (and he is supposed to be big) yet was in hospital for 1 hour and given paracetamol (considering she was pregnant cannot have been too much).
This report got me thinking, if the above is correct, and I dont doubt that it is as it says, and the man does get a makeover in jail, then the woman would be liable surely for compensation, again, lets hope that this case gets finally resolved one way or another.
[quote][p][bold]brooking1974[/bold] wrote: I have followed the case closely. No DNA whatsoever. I have even heard that the victim originally said it was not him and then later changed her story! Also, the victim was supposedly punched 30 times (and he is supposed to be big) yet was in hospital for 1 hour and given paracetamol (considering she was pregnant cannot have been too much).[/p][/quote]This report got me thinking, if the above is correct, and I dont doubt that it is as it says, and the man does get a makeover in jail, then the woman would be liable surely for compensation, again, lets hope that this case gets finally resolved one way or another. downmoor-ch63

10:08am Sat 8 Sep 12

Of the Ilk says...

brooking1974 wrote:
I have followed the case closely. No DNA whatsoever. I have even heard that the victim originally said it was not him and then later changed her story! Also, the victim was supposedly punched 30 times (and he is supposed to be big) yet was in hospital for 1 hour and given paracetamol (considering she was pregnant cannot have been too much).
The evidence presented in court meant the jury were able to find him guilty 'beyond reasonable doubt'. You do not always get the full picture from press reports and unless you were in court for the whole trial or able to read the full court transcript, it is very difficult to put yourself in the place of the jury. If he feels he has been wrongly convicted, then he will be able to appeal.
[quote][p][bold]brooking1974[/bold] wrote: I have followed the case closely. No DNA whatsoever. I have even heard that the victim originally said it was not him and then later changed her story! Also, the victim was supposedly punched 30 times (and he is supposed to be big) yet was in hospital for 1 hour and given paracetamol (considering she was pregnant cannot have been too much).[/p][/quote]The evidence presented in court meant the jury were able to find him guilty 'beyond reasonable doubt'. You do not always get the full picture from press reports and unless you were in court for the whole trial or able to read the full court transcript, it is very difficult to put yourself in the place of the jury. If he feels he has been wrongly convicted, then he will be able to appeal. Of the Ilk

11:18am Sat 8 Sep 12

Iamthewalrus says...

So glad this aggressive control freak got ten years. Just because she wouldn't do what you wanted! And you were frightened it would cost you money! So you felt that gave you the right to kick and punch the hell out of your baby and ex partner.

Well I'm not sure you will have lots of money in prison !!! Lets hope you have some emotional trauma that lasts for far longer than the bruising take to heal. Lets also hope you have some of your own medicine inside and roll on the fraud court case in a few weeks.
Hopefully they will add another few years on to your sentence and also take away some of your precious money using the proceeds of crime Act.

Regarding DNA .. he was forensically aware! One word sums that up MOTIVE! who else would do what they did?

You weren't as clever as you thought you were!
So glad this aggressive control freak got ten years. Just because she wouldn't do what you wanted! And you were frightened it would cost you money! So you felt that gave you the right to kick and punch the hell out of your baby and ex partner. Well I'm not sure you will have lots of money in prison !!! Lets hope you have some emotional trauma that lasts for far longer than the bruising take to heal. Lets also hope you have some of your own medicine inside and roll on the fraud court case in a few weeks. Hopefully they will add another few years on to your sentence and also take away some of your precious money using the proceeds of crime Act. Regarding DNA .. he was forensically aware! One word sums that up MOTIVE! who else would do what they did? You weren't as clever as you thought you were! Iamthewalrus

11:41am Sat 8 Sep 12

Laura85 says...

That judge is good at handing out the longer sentences. I'm sure he will be well looked after by the inmates.
That judge is good at handing out the longer sentences. I'm sure he will be well looked after by the inmates. Laura85

12:51pm Sat 8 Sep 12

EGHH says...

brooking1974 wrote:
I have followed the case closely. No DNA whatsoever. I have even heard that the victim originally said it was not him and then later changed her story! Also, the victim was supposedly punched 30 times (and he is supposed to be big) yet was in hospital for 1 hour and given paracetamol (considering she was pregnant cannot have been too much).
DNA evidence can be removed by using household bleach. A quick Google search will bring up more detailed methods. I'm sure being a serving Police Officer at the time he was aware of this.

He had a clear motive for causing a miscarriage. Caroline Craft would have known it was him even in disguise. Not sure if you have a partner but I would know mine even in disguise by her walk and body language.

As Miss Croft was also a Police Officer she would have been trained in body language etc. and would have been able to identify him without seeing his face.

For some reason you seem to be defending this scum-bag. Why?
[quote][p][bold]brooking1974[/bold] wrote: I have followed the case closely. No DNA whatsoever. I have even heard that the victim originally said it was not him and then later changed her story! Also, the victim was supposedly punched 30 times (and he is supposed to be big) yet was in hospital for 1 hour and given paracetamol (considering she was pregnant cannot have been too much).[/p][/quote]DNA evidence can be removed by using household bleach. A quick Google search will bring up more detailed methods. I'm sure being a serving Police Officer at the time he was aware of this. He had a clear motive for causing a miscarriage. Caroline Craft would have known it was him even in disguise. Not sure if you have a partner but I would know mine even in disguise by her walk and body language. As Miss Croft was also a Police Officer she would have been trained in body language etc. and would have been able to identify him without seeing his face. For some reason you seem to be defending this scum-bag. Why? EGHH

5:29pm Sat 8 Sep 12

BenjiWinsor says...

Been following this case throughout. Justice has been served. Wishing all the best to the woman and child. What an awful thing to grow up to find out, that your father tried to kill you. Hope he never finds out.
Been following this case throughout. Justice has been served. Wishing all the best to the woman and child. What an awful thing to grow up to find out, that your father tried to kill you. Hope he never finds out. BenjiWinsor

5:32pm Sat 8 Sep 12

Huffter says...

Laura85 wrote:
That judge is good at handing out the longer sentences. I'm sure he will be well looked after by the inmates.
Why do you think the judge will be well looked after by the inmates?
[quote][p][bold]Laura85[/bold] wrote: That judge is good at handing out the longer sentences. I'm sure he will be well looked after by the inmates.[/p][/quote]Why do you think the judge will be well looked after by the inmates? Huffter

6:42pm Sat 8 Sep 12

IronLady2010 says...

BenjiWinsor wrote:
Been following this case throughout. Justice has been served. Wishing all the best to the woman and child. What an awful thing to grow up to find out, that your father tried to kill you. Hope he never finds out.
You raise a good point. When the child gets to a certain age of asking questions etc.

The trauma the mother has been through isn't over yet!

How she deals with it will be painful no matter her choice.
[quote][p][bold]BenjiWinsor[/bold] wrote: Been following this case throughout. Justice has been served. Wishing all the best to the woman and child. What an awful thing to grow up to find out, that your father tried to kill you. Hope he never finds out.[/p][/quote]You raise a good point. When the child gets to a certain age of asking questions etc. The trauma the mother has been through isn't over yet! How she deals with it will be painful no matter her choice. IronLady2010

7:59pm Sat 8 Sep 12

bigal007 says...

bigfella777 wrote:
I bet he will be popular in the nick.
now the inmates know he was a copper rule 45 me thinks i bet he be looking over his back all the time
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: I bet he will be popular in the nick.[/p][/quote]now the inmates know he was a copper rule 45 me thinks i bet he be looking over his back all the time bigal007

8:40pm Sat 8 Sep 12

IronLady2010 says...

bigal007 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
I bet he will be popular in the nick.
now the inmates know he was a copper rule 45 me thinks i bet he be looking over his back all the time
One would hope that the system would protect him, despite his crime. If not, the system needs changing. He has been given a punishment according to the Law, if others seek further punishment, this is then illegal and they in turn should be punished.
[quote][p][bold]bigal007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: I bet he will be popular in the nick.[/p][/quote]now the inmates know he was a copper rule 45 me thinks i bet he be looking over his back all the time[/p][/quote]One would hope that the system would protect him, despite his crime. If not, the system needs changing. He has been given a punishment according to the Law, if others seek further punishment, this is then illegal and they in turn should be punished. IronLady2010

8:58pm Sat 8 Sep 12

Reality-man says...

I feel sorry for the child growing up knowing what his father tried to do to him.
I feel sorry for the child growing up knowing what his father tried to do to him. Reality-man

9:04pm Sat 8 Sep 12

opera phantom says...

He broke down and cried in court!
I hope he has to do that again in prison
when a big jessie makes him bend down and pick up the soap in the showers.
Evil thuggish ****.
He broke down and cried in court! I hope he has to do that again in prison when a big jessie makes him bend down and pick up the soap in the showers. Evil thuggish ****. opera phantom

9:07pm Sat 8 Sep 12

opera phantom says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
bigal007 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
I bet he will be popular in the nick.
now the inmates know he was a copper rule 45 me thinks i bet he be looking over his back all the time
One would hope that the system would protect him, despite his crime. If not, the system needs changing. He has been given a punishment according to the Law, if others seek further punishment, this is then illegal and they in turn should be punished.
You may hope IronLady, but I think that is cuckoo land.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigal007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: I bet he will be popular in the nick.[/p][/quote]now the inmates know he was a copper rule 45 me thinks i bet he be looking over his back all the time[/p][/quote]One would hope that the system would protect him, despite his crime. If not, the system needs changing. He has been given a punishment according to the Law, if others seek further punishment, this is then illegal and they in turn should be punished.[/p][/quote]You may hope IronLady, but I think that is cuckoo land. opera phantom

9:37pm Sat 8 Sep 12

SotonLad says...

I have heard numerous times the reason why murders and serious cases are heard at Winchester Crown court instead of Southampton - its the quality of the jury. The people who live in Winchester and are called are decent people who support the police. People called from Southampton are mainly lazy unemployed wasters who hate the police and find everyone not guilty! The decent Southampton people that are called often decline and work instead. Have you seen some of the track suits in the Southampton jury box?!!!
I have heard numerous times the reason why murders and serious cases are heard at Winchester Crown court instead of Southampton - its the quality of the jury. The people who live in Winchester and are called are decent people who support the police. People called from Southampton are mainly lazy unemployed wasters who hate the police and find everyone not guilty! The decent Southampton people that are called often decline and work instead. Have you seen some of the track suits in the Southampton jury box?!!! SotonLad

10:18pm Sat 8 Sep 12

Vars1234 says...

Ha ha, soton lad, very funny! There are plenty of serious crimes heard at Southampton Crown Court, it's just that certain judges specialise in certain types of crimes and they are generally based in the same Courts.... I am sure the tracksuits you have seen come from West Quays Monsoon!
Ha ha, soton lad, very funny! There are plenty of serious crimes heard at Southampton Crown Court, it's just that certain judges specialise in certain types of crimes and they are generally based in the same Courts.... I am sure the tracksuits you have seen come from West Quays Monsoon! Vars1234

11:28pm Sat 8 Sep 12

Iamthewalrus says...

Time for a new uniform Cherry !
Time for a new uniform Cherry ! Iamthewalrus

11:34pm Sat 8 Sep 12

Iamthewalrus says...

Not so cocky now in your mafia suit, smirk and dark glasses who was always on the phone outside the court are you?

Shame
Not so cocky now in your mafia suit, smirk and dark glasses who was always on the phone outside the court are you? Shame Iamthewalrus

11:35pm Sat 8 Sep 12

YouKnowWhatYouDid says...

Iamthewalrus wrote:
So glad this aggressive control freak got ten years. Just because she wouldn't do what you wanted! And you were frightened it would cost you money! So you felt that gave you the right to kick and punch the hell out of your baby and ex partner.

Well I'm not sure you will have lots of money in prison !!! Lets hope you have some emotional trauma that lasts for far longer than the bruising take to heal. Lets also hope you have some of your own medicine inside and roll on the fraud court case in a few weeks.
Hopefully they will add another few years on to your sentence and also take away some of your precious money using the proceeds of crime Act.

Regarding DNA .. he was forensically aware! One word sums that up MOTIVE! who else would do what they did?

You weren't as clever as you thought you were!
What fraud case??? Please shed light...or post a link to the case.
Cherry was a really good friend of my ex-husband. I am a little shocked to hear of it so 'close to home' and saddened that another "lad" has shown the inability to be responsible and grow up... he fancied himself safe in a "high-position" job did he? Well, no amount of look-at-me facade will keep you from justice. And now someone (Iamthewalrus) says there is (potential) fraudulent action too? The similarities are frightening. At least one of them has proven not to be made of Teflon! They say a man is judged by the company he keeps... I wonder who gave him a character witness because the jury found him "guilty beyond reasonable doubt". That is the Law = so be it.
Handy hint: Don't want to be a father?? ... well how about WEARING A CONDOM and taking control of your own destiny?! That way you can't be "tricked" into it as claimed. Does a girl get "herself pregnant" ?? - I've heard that one before and it is a pathetic attempt to throw all responsibility onto the woman. Until such little boys are MADE to grow up (by the law or their over-protective mothers) the girls will have to continue picking up the pieces for them. My heart goes out to Miss Craft and her beautiful son, and I wish them the chance to move on and have a lifetime of happiness together while Cherry sits in jail, thinking of what he has lost. It may be terrible to have to answer questions about his father one day, but at least she will have the chance. Well done the Police / CPS for getting this uncovered. Now let's catch up with the others and restore our society standards...
[quote][p][bold]Iamthewalrus[/bold] wrote: So glad this aggressive control freak got ten years. Just because she wouldn't do what you wanted! And you were frightened it would cost you money! So you felt that gave you the right to kick and punch the hell out of your baby and ex partner. Well I'm not sure you will have lots of money in prison !!! Lets hope you have some emotional trauma that lasts for far longer than the bruising take to heal. Lets also hope you have some of your own medicine inside and roll on the fraud court case in a few weeks. Hopefully they will add another few years on to your sentence and also take away some of your precious money using the proceeds of crime Act. Regarding DNA .. he was forensically aware! One word sums that up MOTIVE! who else would do what they did? You weren't as clever as you thought you were![/p][/quote]What fraud case??? Please shed light...or post a link to the case. Cherry was a really good friend of my ex-husband. I am a little shocked to hear of it so 'close to home' and saddened that another "lad" has shown the inability to be responsible and grow up... he fancied himself safe in a "high-position" job did he? Well, no amount of look-at-me facade will keep you from justice. And now someone (Iamthewalrus) says there is (potential) fraudulent action too? The similarities are frightening. At least one of them has proven not to be made of Teflon! They say a man is judged by the company he keeps... I wonder who gave him a character witness because the jury found him "guilty beyond reasonable doubt". That is the Law = so be it. Handy hint: Don't want to be a father?? ... well how about WEARING A CONDOM and taking control of your own destiny?! That way you can't be "tricked" into it as claimed. Does a girl get "herself pregnant" ?? - I've heard that one before and it is a pathetic attempt to throw all responsibility onto the woman. Until such little boys are MADE to grow up (by the law or their over-protective mothers) the girls will have to continue picking up the pieces for them. My heart goes out to Miss Craft and her beautiful son, and I wish them the chance to move on and have a lifetime of happiness together while Cherry sits in jail, thinking of what he has lost. It may be terrible to have to answer questions about his father one day, but at least she will have the chance. Well done the Police / CPS for getting this uncovered. Now let's catch up with the others and restore our society standards... YouKnowWhatYouDid

12:57am Sun 9 Sep 12

jimmy.little says...

x copper inside who tried to kill a unborn baby... not gonna be nice for him. TBH he should have been charged with attempted murder, as surely that was what he was trying to do... ?
x copper inside who tried to kill a unborn baby... not gonna be nice for him. TBH he should have been charged with attempted murder, as surely that was what he was trying to do... ? jimmy.little

9:14am Sun 9 Sep 12

manyogie says...

If he were under eighteen there would be no pics etc, but still did the crime.
It is time to repeal this stupid law that 'minors' cannot have their face shown
If he were under eighteen there would be no pics etc, but still did the crime. It is time to repeal this stupid law that 'minors' cannot have their face shown manyogie

10:00am Sun 9 Sep 12

userds5050 says...

SotonLad wrote:
I have heard numerous times the reason why murders and serious cases are heard at Winchester Crown court instead of Southampton - its the quality of the jury. The people who live in Winchester and are called are decent people who support the police. People called from Southampton are mainly lazy unemployed wasters who hate the police and find everyone not guilty! The decent Southampton people that are called often decline and work instead. Have you seen some of the track suits in the Southampton jury box?!!!
Or it could be because Winchester is a first tier court and is much larger than Southampton.
[quote][p][bold]SotonLad[/bold] wrote: I have heard numerous times the reason why murders and serious cases are heard at Winchester Crown court instead of Southampton - its the quality of the jury. The people who live in Winchester and are called are decent people who support the police. People called from Southampton are mainly lazy unemployed wasters who hate the police and find everyone not guilty! The decent Southampton people that are called often decline and work instead. Have you seen some of the track suits in the Southampton jury box?!!![/p][/quote]Or it could be because Winchester is a first tier court and is much larger than Southampton. userds5050

10:12am Sun 9 Sep 12

pete woodley says...

I cant believe that other pc's did not have a good idea about him,and his attitude before,or is that normal in his job.
I cant believe that other pc's did not have a good idea about him,and his attitude before,or is that normal in his job. pete woodley

10:59am Sun 9 Sep 12

YouKnowWhatYouDid says...

jimmy.little wrote:
x copper inside who tried to kill a unborn baby... not gonna be nice for him. TBH he should have been charged with attempted murder, as surely that was what he was trying to do... ?
Attempted Murder. Yes I quite agree.
[quote][p][bold]jimmy.little[/bold] wrote: x copper inside who tried to kill a unborn baby... not gonna be nice for him. TBH he should have been charged with attempted murder, as surely that was what he was trying to do... ?[/p][/quote]Attempted Murder. Yes I quite agree. YouKnowWhatYouDid

11:02am Sun 9 Sep 12

YouKnowWhatYouDid says...

manyogie wrote:
If he were under eighteen there would be no pics etc, but still did the crime.
It is time to repeal this stupid law that 'minors' cannot have their face shown
I agree that minors faces should be shown. "If you're old enough to do the crime, you're old enough to do the time".
As for Inmate Cherry, at least women will know to avoid him from his mug shot - with or without the shades!
[quote][p][bold]manyogie[/bold] wrote: If he were under eighteen there would be no pics etc, but still did the crime. It is time to repeal this stupid law that 'minors' cannot have their face shown[/p][/quote]I agree that minors faces should be shown. "If you're old enough to do the crime, you're old enough to do the time". As for Inmate Cherry, at least women will know to avoid him from his mug shot - with or without the shades! YouKnowWhatYouDid

1:28pm Sun 9 Sep 12

cantthinkofone says...

YouKnowWhatYouDid wrote:
manyogie wrote:
If he were under eighteen there would be no pics etc, but still did the crime.
It is time to repeal this stupid law that 'minors' cannot have their face shown
I agree that minors faces should be shown. "If you're old enough to do the crime, you're old enough to do the time".
As for Inmate Cherry, at least women will know to avoid him from his mug shot - with or without the shades!
On a related note, I find it utterly abhorrent that the names of people accused can be published before their trial.

People are supposed to be 'innocent until proven guilty', yet even if they are found to be innocent without doubt, someone's name may have already been dragged through the mud by the media and their life ruined.

Once proven, publish their names, photos, shoe-size, whatever. But whilst someone is innocent they shouldn't be subject to that publicity.

Trials could still easily be covered, using the "Mr x" type naming conventions that are used for rape victims and child welfare cases.
[quote][p][bold]YouKnowWhatYouDid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manyogie[/bold] wrote: If he were under eighteen there would be no pics etc, but still did the crime. It is time to repeal this stupid law that 'minors' cannot have their face shown[/p][/quote]I agree that minors faces should be shown. "If you're old enough to do the crime, you're old enough to do the time". As for Inmate Cherry, at least women will know to avoid him from his mug shot - with or without the shades![/p][/quote]On a related note, I find it utterly abhorrent that the names of people accused can be published before their trial. People are supposed to be 'innocent until proven guilty', yet even if they are found to be innocent without doubt, someone's name may have already been dragged through the mud by the media and their life ruined. Once proven, publish their names, photos, shoe-size, whatever. But whilst someone is innocent they shouldn't be subject to that publicity. Trials could still easily be covered, using the "Mr x" type naming conventions that are used for rape victims and child welfare cases. cantthinkofone

2:00pm Sun 9 Sep 12

YouKnowWhatYouDid says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
YouKnowWhatYouDid wrote:
manyogie wrote:
If he were under eighteen there would be no pics etc, but still did the crime.
It is time to repeal this stupid law that 'minors' cannot have their face shown
I agree that minors faces should be shown. "If you're old enough to do the crime, you're old enough to do the time".
As for Inmate Cherry, at least women will know to avoid him from his mug shot - with or without the shades!
On a related note, I find it utterly abhorrent that the names of people accused can be published before their trial.

People are supposed to be 'innocent until proven guilty', yet even if they are found to be innocent without doubt, someone's name may have already been dragged through the mud by the media and their life ruined.

Once proven, publish their names, photos, shoe-size, whatever. But whilst someone is innocent they shouldn't be subject to that publicity.

Trials could still easily be covered, using the "Mr x" type naming conventions that are used for rape victims and child welfare cases.
That's not a bad point, and it is sad that some of the general public (used to be referred to as the 'great unwashed') can not hold an innocent verdict as far forward in their minds as the suspicion during the trial... some people can't even accept the judge / jury verdict and continue peddling bad rumours, speaking as if someone has escaped justice. I'm sure this might happen too, though.
True, names are remembered and mud can stick to the innocent.
Perhaps, names of accused are published because the CPS may need information from the public that can not be traced by any other means? - a bit like a marriage ceremony being a public event despite being seen as invitation only... banns are read or notice is given so people have the opportunity to object (on good grounds of course).
Certainly here, judging by Cherry's bail conditions, there was more than mere suspicion.
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YouKnowWhatYouDid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manyogie[/bold] wrote: If he were under eighteen there would be no pics etc, but still did the crime. It is time to repeal this stupid law that 'minors' cannot have their face shown[/p][/quote]I agree that minors faces should be shown. "If you're old enough to do the crime, you're old enough to do the time". As for Inmate Cherry, at least women will know to avoid him from his mug shot - with or without the shades![/p][/quote]On a related note, I find it utterly abhorrent that the names of people accused can be published before their trial. People are supposed to be 'innocent until proven guilty', yet even if they are found to be innocent without doubt, someone's name may have already been dragged through the mud by the media and their life ruined. Once proven, publish their names, photos, shoe-size, whatever. But whilst someone is innocent they shouldn't be subject to that publicity. Trials could still easily be covered, using the "Mr x" type naming conventions that are used for rape victims and child welfare cases.[/p][/quote]That's not a bad point, and it is sad that some of the general public (used to be referred to as the 'great unwashed') can not hold an innocent verdict as far forward in their minds as the suspicion during the trial... some people can't even accept the judge / jury verdict and continue peddling bad rumours, speaking as if someone has escaped justice. I'm sure this might happen too, though. True, names are remembered and mud can stick to the innocent. Perhaps, names of accused are published because the CPS may need information from the public that can not be traced by any other means? - a bit like a marriage ceremony being a public event despite being seen as invitation only... banns are read or notice is given so people have the opportunity to object (on good grounds of course). Certainly here, judging by Cherry's bail conditions, there was more than mere suspicion. YouKnowWhatYouDid

4:15pm Sun 9 Sep 12

cantthinkofone says...

YouKnowWhatYouDid wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
YouKnowWhatYouDid wrote:
manyogie wrote:
If he were under eighteen there would be no pics etc, but still did the crime.
It is time to repeal this stupid law that 'minors' cannot have their face shown
I agree that minors faces should be shown. "If you're old enough to do the crime, you're old enough to do the time".
As for Inmate Cherry, at least women will know to avoid him from his mug shot - with or without the shades!
On a related note, I find it utterly abhorrent that the names of people accused can be published before their trial.

People are supposed to be 'innocent until proven guilty', yet even if they are found to be innocent without doubt, someone's name may have already been dragged through the mud by the media and their life ruined.

Once proven, publish their names, photos, shoe-size, whatever. But whilst someone is innocent they shouldn't be subject to that publicity.

Trials could still easily be covered, using the "Mr x" type naming conventions that are used for rape victims and child welfare cases.
That's not a bad point, and it is sad that some of the general public (used to be referred to as the 'great unwashed') can not hold an innocent verdict as far forward in their minds as the suspicion during the trial... some people can't even accept the judge / jury verdict and continue peddling bad rumours, speaking as if someone has escaped justice. I'm sure this might happen too, though.
True, names are remembered and mud can stick to the innocent.
Perhaps, names of accused are published because the CPS may need information from the public that can not be traced by any other means? - a bit like a marriage ceremony being a public event despite being seen as invitation only... banns are read or notice is given so people have the opportunity to object (on good grounds of course).
Certainly here, judging by Cherry's bail conditions, there was more than mere suspicion.
Yes, I believe that the justification is exactly what you've suggested.

However, the devastating effect it can have on the lives of innocent people is intolerable IMO. And in these days of constant communication, information, social media etc I doubt that the police often learn anything they couldn't have found out for themselves due to a newspaper story.

It's a subjective judgement call I know, but IMO the balance of harm/benefit comes down strongly against the publication of the accuseds' names before guilt is proven.
[quote][p][bold]YouKnowWhatYouDid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YouKnowWhatYouDid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manyogie[/bold] wrote: If he were under eighteen there would be no pics etc, but still did the crime. It is time to repeal this stupid law that 'minors' cannot have their face shown[/p][/quote]I agree that minors faces should be shown. "If you're old enough to do the crime, you're old enough to do the time". As for Inmate Cherry, at least women will know to avoid him from his mug shot - with or without the shades![/p][/quote]On a related note, I find it utterly abhorrent that the names of people accused can be published before their trial. People are supposed to be 'innocent until proven guilty', yet even if they are found to be innocent without doubt, someone's name may have already been dragged through the mud by the media and their life ruined. Once proven, publish their names, photos, shoe-size, whatever. But whilst someone is innocent they shouldn't be subject to that publicity. Trials could still easily be covered, using the "Mr x" type naming conventions that are used for rape victims and child welfare cases.[/p][/quote]That's not a bad point, and it is sad that some of the general public (used to be referred to as the 'great unwashed') can not hold an innocent verdict as far forward in their minds as the suspicion during the trial... some people can't even accept the judge / jury verdict and continue peddling bad rumours, speaking as if someone has escaped justice. I'm sure this might happen too, though. True, names are remembered and mud can stick to the innocent. Perhaps, names of accused are published because the CPS may need information from the public that can not be traced by any other means? - a bit like a marriage ceremony being a public event despite being seen as invitation only... banns are read or notice is given so people have the opportunity to object (on good grounds of course). Certainly here, judging by Cherry's bail conditions, there was more than mere suspicion.[/p][/quote]Yes, I believe that the justification is exactly what you've suggested. However, the devastating effect it can have on the lives of innocent people is intolerable IMO. And in these days of constant communication, information, social media etc I doubt that the police often learn anything they couldn't have found out for themselves due to a newspaper story. It's a subjective judgement call I know, but IMO the balance of harm/benefit comes down strongly against the publication of the accuseds' names before guilt is proven. cantthinkofone

7:27pm Sun 9 Sep 12

bigal007 says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
bigal007 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
I bet he will be popular in the nick.
now the inmates know he was a copper rule 45 me thinks i bet he be looking over his back all the time
One would hope that the system would protect him, despite his crime. If not, the system needs changing. He has been given a punishment according to the Law, if others seek further punishment, this is then illegal and they in turn should be punished.
what world do u live in in prison they hate coppers as it was acopper who put him in there !!
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigal007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: I bet he will be popular in the nick.[/p][/quote]now the inmates know he was a copper rule 45 me thinks i bet he be looking over his back all the time[/p][/quote]One would hope that the system would protect him, despite his crime. If not, the system needs changing. He has been given a punishment according to the Law, if others seek further punishment, this is then illegal and they in turn should be punished.[/p][/quote]what world do u live in in prison they hate coppers as it was acopper who put him in there !! bigal007

7:58pm Sun 9 Sep 12

IronLady2010 says...

bigal007 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
bigal007 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
I bet he will be popular in the nick.
now the inmates know he was a copper rule 45 me thinks i bet he be looking over his back all the time
One would hope that the system would protect him, despite his crime. If not, the system needs changing. He has been given a punishment according to the Law, if others seek further punishment, this is then illegal and they in turn should be punished.
what world do u live in in prison they hate coppers as it was acopper who put him in there !!
I live in a world where decent people rely on a system to protect us all. What this man has done is one of the most vile acts you could do to a lady. He has been punished according to UK Law.

If others seek further revenge they too should be punished accordingly as it is illegal. I'm not defending the man in any way whatsoever, but to state he'll get done inside, signals potentially something is wrong with the prison system.
[quote][p][bold]bigal007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigal007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: I bet he will be popular in the nick.[/p][/quote]now the inmates know he was a copper rule 45 me thinks i bet he be looking over his back all the time[/p][/quote]One would hope that the system would protect him, despite his crime. If not, the system needs changing. He has been given a punishment according to the Law, if others seek further punishment, this is then illegal and they in turn should be punished.[/p][/quote]what world do u live in in prison they hate coppers as it was acopper who put him in there !![/p][/quote]I live in a world where decent people rely on a system to protect us all. What this man has done is one of the most vile acts you could do to a lady. He has been punished according to UK Law. If others seek further revenge they too should be punished accordingly as it is illegal. I'm not defending the man in any way whatsoever, but to state he'll get done inside, signals potentially something is wrong with the prison system. IronLady2010

9:27pm Sun 9 Sep 12

Iamthewalrus says...

In this case the system did work! Not only so justice is served against his premeditated vicious attack by also keeping him away from an innocent child.
In this case the system did work! Not only so justice is served against his premeditated vicious attack by also keeping him away from an innocent child. Iamthewalrus

10:20pm Sun 9 Sep 12

convicted copper says...

SEVEN YEARS AGO I HAD THE MISFORTUNE OF MEETING THIS BENT NASTY EX-COPPER, I HAVE TO SAY WHEN THE VERDICT WAS READ OUT I WAS THERE WITH MANY OTHERS, NOW LAG CHERRY WILL BE SITTING THERE BACK AGAINST A COLD WALL THINKING NOT OF HIS CHILD BUT OF HOW HE IS NOW GOING TO TRY IN VEIN TO HAVE HIS LEGAL TEAM MOUNT AN APPEAL AGAINST IN HIS MIND A CRAZY CONVICTION, I WOULD LOVE TO BE A FLY ON HIS CELL WALL WATCHING HIM PACE AND PACE IM SURE MANY OTHERS HEARING OF THIS CHEERY FALLING FROM THE TREE WERE IN CELEBRATION AND STILL ARE LIKE ME IT WILL BE VERY INTERESTING TO READ AND HEAR OF THE NEXT STAGE NOW FOR CHERRY I REALLY DO HOPE HE MEETS UP WITH LAGS THAT HE GOT PUT AWAY AND IF HE DOES MAKE IT TO RELEASE IM VERY VERY SURE PEOPLE WILL BE WAITING FOR HIM
SEVEN YEARS AGO I HAD THE MISFORTUNE OF MEETING THIS BENT NASTY EX-COPPER, I HAVE TO SAY WHEN THE VERDICT WAS READ OUT I WAS THERE WITH MANY OTHERS, NOW LAG CHERRY WILL BE SITTING THERE BACK AGAINST A COLD WALL THINKING NOT OF HIS CHILD BUT OF HOW HE IS NOW GOING TO TRY IN VEIN TO HAVE HIS LEGAL TEAM MOUNT AN APPEAL AGAINST IN HIS MIND A CRAZY CONVICTION, I WOULD LOVE TO BE A FLY ON HIS CELL WALL WATCHING HIM PACE AND PACE IM SURE MANY OTHERS HEARING OF THIS CHEERY FALLING FROM THE TREE WERE IN CELEBRATION AND STILL ARE LIKE ME IT WILL BE VERY INTERESTING TO READ AND HEAR OF THE NEXT STAGE NOW FOR CHERRY I REALLY DO HOPE HE MEETS UP WITH LAGS THAT HE GOT PUT AWAY AND IF HE DOES MAKE IT TO RELEASE IM VERY VERY SURE PEOPLE WILL BE WAITING FOR HIM convicted copper

11:13pm Sun 9 Sep 12

IronLady2010 says...

convicted copper wrote:
SEVEN YEARS AGO I HAD THE MISFORTUNE OF MEETING THIS BENT NASTY EX-COPPER, I HAVE TO SAY WHEN THE VERDICT WAS READ OUT I WAS THERE WITH MANY OTHERS, NOW LAG CHERRY WILL BE SITTING THERE BACK AGAINST A COLD WALL THINKING NOT OF HIS CHILD BUT OF HOW HE IS NOW GOING TO TRY IN VEIN TO HAVE HIS LEGAL TEAM MOUNT AN APPEAL AGAINST IN HIS MIND A CRAZY CONVICTION, I WOULD LOVE TO BE A FLY ON HIS CELL WALL WATCHING HIM PACE AND PACE IM SURE MANY OTHERS HEARING OF THIS CHEERY FALLING FROM THE TREE WERE IN CELEBRATION AND STILL ARE LIKE ME IT WILL BE VERY INTERESTING TO READ AND HEAR OF THE NEXT STAGE NOW FOR CHERRY I REALLY DO HOPE HE MEETS UP WITH LAGS THAT HE GOT PUT AWAY AND IF HE DOES MAKE IT TO RELEASE IM VERY VERY SURE PEOPLE WILL BE WAITING FOR HIM
Not only are you 'shouting' you are morally wrong. He has been given a sentence according to UK Law. He has the right to appeal if he chooses.

I don't know this man, but the Jury has decided he is guilty, he is now entitled to appeal.

Your capitals alone make your statement pointless and stupid.

All this bashing on the inside is quite frankly pathetic and a true insight into the comfy prison system these guys have.
[quote][p][bold]convicted copper[/bold] wrote: SEVEN YEARS AGO I HAD THE MISFORTUNE OF MEETING THIS BENT NASTY EX-COPPER, I HAVE TO SAY WHEN THE VERDICT WAS READ OUT I WAS THERE WITH MANY OTHERS, NOW LAG CHERRY WILL BE SITTING THERE BACK AGAINST A COLD WALL THINKING NOT OF HIS CHILD BUT OF HOW HE IS NOW GOING TO TRY IN VEIN TO HAVE HIS LEGAL TEAM MOUNT AN APPEAL AGAINST IN HIS MIND A CRAZY CONVICTION, I WOULD LOVE TO BE A FLY ON HIS CELL WALL WATCHING HIM PACE AND PACE IM SURE MANY OTHERS HEARING OF THIS CHEERY FALLING FROM THE TREE WERE IN CELEBRATION AND STILL ARE LIKE ME IT WILL BE VERY INTERESTING TO READ AND HEAR OF THE NEXT STAGE NOW FOR CHERRY I REALLY DO HOPE HE MEETS UP WITH LAGS THAT HE GOT PUT AWAY AND IF HE DOES MAKE IT TO RELEASE IM VERY VERY SURE PEOPLE WILL BE WAITING FOR HIM[/p][/quote]Not only are you 'shouting' you are morally wrong. He has been given a sentence according to UK Law. He has the right to appeal if he chooses. I don't know this man, but the Jury has decided he is guilty, he is now entitled to appeal. Your capitals alone make your statement pointless and stupid. All this bashing on the inside is quite frankly pathetic and a true insight into the comfy prison system these guys have. IronLady2010

4:28am Mon 10 Sep 12

Old Boscombe Lad says...

street warrior wrote:
"What a Policeman gets sentenced?" Clearly not in with the masonic group, I'm supprised the federation didn't make up some covering story for him?
street warrior,
You obviously don't know what you're talking about do you.
[quote][p][bold]street warrior[/bold] wrote: "What a Policeman gets sentenced?" Clearly not in with the masonic group, I'm supprised the federation didn't make up some covering story for him?[/p][/quote]street warrior, You obviously don't know what you're talking about do you. Old Boscombe Lad

7:06am Mon 10 Sep 12

YouKnowWhatYouDid says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
convicted copper wrote:
SEVEN YEARS AGO I HAD THE MISFORTUNE OF MEETING THIS BENT NASTY EX-COPPER, I HAVE TO SAY WHEN THE VERDICT WAS READ OUT I WAS THERE WITH MANY OTHERS, NOW LAG CHERRY WILL BE SITTING THERE BACK AGAINST A COLD WALL THINKING NOT OF HIS CHILD BUT OF HOW HE IS NOW GOING TO TRY IN VEIN TO HAVE HIS LEGAL TEAM MOUNT AN APPEAL AGAINST IN HIS MIND A CRAZY CONVICTION, I WOULD LOVE TO BE A FLY ON HIS CELL WALL WATCHING HIM PACE AND PACE IM SURE MANY OTHERS HEARING OF THIS CHEERY FALLING FROM THE TREE WERE IN CELEBRATION AND STILL ARE LIKE ME IT WILL BE VERY INTERESTING TO READ AND HEAR OF THE NEXT STAGE NOW FOR CHERRY I REALLY DO HOPE HE MEETS UP WITH LAGS THAT HE GOT PUT AWAY AND IF HE DOES MAKE IT TO RELEASE IM VERY VERY SURE PEOPLE WILL BE WAITING FOR HIM
Not only are you 'shouting' you are morally wrong. He has been given a sentence according to UK Law. He has the right to appeal if he chooses.

I don't know this man, but the Jury has decided he is guilty, he is now entitled to appeal.

Your capitals alone make your statement pointless and stupid.

All this bashing on the inside is quite frankly pathetic and a true insight into the comfy prison system these guys have.
I must admit I would have been interested to see how many of his friends turned up as well. I read somewhere that he nearly fainted on receiving his sentence... he may well appeal and potentially waste even more of the taxpayers money, the money that trained him to uphold he Law... but at this present time he stands a convicted criminal, so GOOD - I should think Miss Craft **** well nearly fainted when she was attacked. It is hard to tell if his response was genuine or an attempt to show innocence perhaps he just realised what he faced inside. In my experience of one of his friends, this hints at showmanship or at least (hopefully) the realisation that he had been caught. Some are only sorry that they are caught. As for the prisoners taking his punishment into their own hands, yes it is wrong and yes his sentence is the loss of his freedom and a record but everyone knows that 99% of criminals have standards when it comes to wife beating / child abuse. I still think this should be attempted murder of at least one person. I do not agree with lynch mob mentality - we are lucky enough to have a justice system in this country so we should let it do it's thing, sure some wrongly walk free but in this case he was sent down - in reality his being scared of reprisal from his new peers won't lose me any sleep. He will at least know what people think of him and how Miss Craft felt and there are ways to stay out of prison afterall!
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]convicted copper[/bold] wrote: SEVEN YEARS AGO I HAD THE MISFORTUNE OF MEETING THIS BENT NASTY EX-COPPER, I HAVE TO SAY WHEN THE VERDICT WAS READ OUT I WAS THERE WITH MANY OTHERS, NOW LAG CHERRY WILL BE SITTING THERE BACK AGAINST A COLD WALL THINKING NOT OF HIS CHILD BUT OF HOW HE IS NOW GOING TO TRY IN VEIN TO HAVE HIS LEGAL TEAM MOUNT AN APPEAL AGAINST IN HIS MIND A CRAZY CONVICTION, I WOULD LOVE TO BE A FLY ON HIS CELL WALL WATCHING HIM PACE AND PACE IM SURE MANY OTHERS HEARING OF THIS CHEERY FALLING FROM THE TREE WERE IN CELEBRATION AND STILL ARE LIKE ME IT WILL BE VERY INTERESTING TO READ AND HEAR OF THE NEXT STAGE NOW FOR CHERRY I REALLY DO HOPE HE MEETS UP WITH LAGS THAT HE GOT PUT AWAY AND IF HE DOES MAKE IT TO RELEASE IM VERY VERY SURE PEOPLE WILL BE WAITING FOR HIM[/p][/quote]Not only are you 'shouting' you are morally wrong. He has been given a sentence according to UK Law. He has the right to appeal if he chooses. I don't know this man, but the Jury has decided he is guilty, he is now entitled to appeal. Your capitals alone make your statement pointless and stupid. All this bashing on the inside is quite frankly pathetic and a true insight into the comfy prison system these guys have.[/p][/quote]I must admit I would have been interested to see how many of his friends turned up as well. I read somewhere that he nearly fainted on receiving his sentence... he may well appeal and potentially waste even more of the taxpayers money, the money that trained him to uphold he Law... but at this present time he stands a convicted criminal, so GOOD - I should think Miss Craft **** well nearly fainted when she was attacked. It is hard to tell if his response was genuine or an attempt to show innocence perhaps he just realised what he faced inside. In my experience of one of his friends, this hints at showmanship or at least (hopefully) the realisation that he had been caught. Some are only sorry that they are caught. As for the prisoners taking his punishment into their own hands, yes it is wrong and yes his sentence is the loss of his freedom and a record but everyone knows that 99% of criminals have standards when it comes to wife beating / child abuse. I still think this should be attempted murder of at least one person. I do not agree with lynch mob mentality - we are lucky enough to have a justice system in this country so we should let it do it's thing, sure some wrongly walk free but in this case he was sent down - in reality his being scared of reprisal from his new peers won't lose me any sleep. He will at least know what people think of him and how Miss Craft felt and there are ways to stay out of prison afterall! YouKnowWhatYouDid

7:25am Mon 10 Sep 12

YouKnowWhatYouDid says...

Iamthewalrus wrote:
Not so cocky now in your mafia suit, smirk and dark glasses who was always on the phone outside the court are you?

Shame
Iamthewalrus: you make me laugh! :D
It's amazing how they choose to dress isn't it? Appearance is everything - hiding nothing of value underneath. Ok a suit for court I get, but just like medallion man is a stereotype, so is the black shirt / black tie / black shades look... and believe me, he knows that. And as for the phone - maybe we are meant to believe he still has friends to talk to... probably chatting with my ex... when I knew them both, they had a similar attitude and the ex does the same thing if I have the misfortune to see him in the street - it's hilarious how fast the phone rings (silently) mmm coincidence!! :D
Going into court accused of this and trying to look intimidating is just ridiculous. Though it did give me a chuckle: "Ah bless, look he's playing gangstaaaaaaaaaaah".

Want to look like a real man ? - show courtesy and respect in the first place!
In the mean time, Cherry, how about adding a different colour to your wardrobe??!
[quote][p][bold]Iamthewalrus[/bold] wrote: Not so cocky now in your mafia suit, smirk and dark glasses who was always on the phone outside the court are you? Shame[/p][/quote]Iamthewalrus: you make me laugh! :D It's amazing how they choose to dress isn't it? Appearance is everything - hiding nothing of value underneath. Ok a suit for court I get, but just like medallion man is a stereotype, so is the black shirt / black tie / black shades look... and believe me, he knows that. And as for the phone - maybe we are meant to believe he still has friends to talk to... probably chatting with my ex... when I knew them both, they had a similar attitude and the ex does the same thing if I have the misfortune to see him in the street - it's hilarious how fast the phone rings (silently) mmm coincidence!! :D Going into court accused of this and trying to look intimidating is just ridiculous. Though it did give me a chuckle: "Ah bless, look he's playing gangstaaaaaaaaaaah". Want to look like a real man ? - show courtesy and respect in the first place! In the mean time, Cherry, how about adding a different colour to your wardrobe??! YouKnowWhatYouDid

8:12am Mon 10 Sep 12

Iamthewalrus says...

YouKnowWhatYouDid wrote:
Iamthewalrus wrote:
Not so cocky now in your mafia suit, smirk and dark glasses who was always on the phone outside the court are you?

Shame
Iamthewalrus: you make me laugh! :D
It's amazing how they choose to dress isn't it? Appearance is everything - hiding nothing of value underneath. Ok a suit for court I get, but just like medallion man is a stereotype, so is the black shirt / black tie / black shades look... and believe me, he knows that. And as for the phone - maybe we are meant to believe he still has friends to talk to... probably chatting with my ex... when I knew them both, they had a similar attitude and the ex does the same thing if I have the misfortune to see him in the street - it's hilarious how fast the phone rings (silently) mmm coincidence!! :D
Going into court accused of this and trying to look intimidating is just ridiculous. Though it did give me a chuckle: "Ah bless, look he's playing gangstaaaaaaaaaaah".


Want to look like a real man ? - show courtesy and respect in the first place!
In the mean time, Cherry, how about adding a different colour to your wardrobe??!
I agree with the play acting comments. Thing is with him he never quite gets it 100% right. I still can't believe he had more time off sick from the job after the attack than his victim due to the stress it caused him. Still he's got a lot of time off now.
[quote][p][bold]YouKnowWhatYouDid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Iamthewalrus[/bold] wrote: Not so cocky now in your mafia suit, smirk and dark glasses who was always on the phone outside the court are you? Shame[/p][/quote]Iamthewalrus: you make me laugh! :D It's amazing how they choose to dress isn't it? Appearance is everything - hiding nothing of value underneath. Ok a suit for court I get, but just like medallion man is a stereotype, so is the black shirt / black tie / black shades look... and believe me, he knows that. And as for the phone - maybe we are meant to believe he still has friends to talk to... probably chatting with my ex... when I knew them both, they had a similar attitude and the ex does the same thing if I have the misfortune to see him in the street - it's hilarious how fast the phone rings (silently) mmm coincidence!! :D Going into court accused of this and trying to look intimidating is just ridiculous. Though it did give me a chuckle: "Ah bless, look he's playing gangstaaaaaaaaaaah". Want to look like a real man ? - show courtesy and respect in the first place! In the mean time, Cherry, how about adding a different colour to your wardrobe??![/p][/quote]I agree with the play acting comments. Thing is with him he never quite gets it 100% right. I still can't believe he had more time off sick from the job after the attack than his victim due to the stress it caused him. Still he's got a lot of time off now. Iamthewalrus

8:41am Mon 10 Sep 12

apop3d says...

Boscomite wrote:
I do wish the Echo would employ a few journalists instead of a bunch of "creative" writers. Your job is to report the facts, not to express your own feelings on the stories you cover. To start a story with the words "EVIL Dorset Police officer" is not reporting. I may well agree with your sentiments, but it's not your job to tell me he's evil. It's up to me to make an informed decision based on the facts.
I agree with the above statement 100%.

In the real world, the first word of this article would relegate it to the editorial opinions page and disqualify it from inclusion as news. Reporting like this makes every story your newspaper publishes suspect and unworthy of trust.
[quote][p][bold]Boscomite[/bold] wrote: I do wish the Echo would employ a few journalists instead of a bunch of "creative" writers. Your job is to report the facts, not to express your own feelings on the stories you cover. To start a story with the words "EVIL Dorset Police officer" is not reporting. I may well agree with your sentiments, but it's not your job to tell me he's evil. It's up to me to make an informed decision based on the facts.[/p][/quote]I agree with the above statement 100%. In the real world, the first word of this article would relegate it to the editorial opinions page and disqualify it from inclusion as news. Reporting like this makes every story your newspaper publishes suspect and unworthy of trust. apop3d

9:21am Mon 10 Sep 12

YouKnowWhatYouDid says...

Iamthewalrus wrote:
YouKnowWhatYouDid wrote:
Iamthewalrus wrote:
Not so cocky now in your mafia suit, smirk and dark glasses who was always on the phone outside the court are you?

Shame
Iamthewalrus: you make me laugh! :D
It's amazing how they choose to dress isn't it? Appearance is everything - hiding nothing of value underneath. Ok a suit for court I get, but just like medallion man is a stereotype, so is the black shirt / black tie / black shades look... and believe me, he knows that. And as for the phone - maybe we are meant to believe he still has friends to talk to... probably chatting with my ex... when I knew them both, they had a similar attitude and the ex does the same thing if I have the misfortune to see him in the street - it's hilarious how fast the phone rings (silently) mmm coincidence!! :D
Going into court accused of this and trying to look intimidating is just ridiculous. Though it did give me a chuckle: "Ah bless, look he's playing gangstaaaaaaaaaaah".



Want to look like a real man ? - show courtesy and respect in the first place!
In the mean time, Cherry, how about adding a different colour to your wardrobe??!
I agree with the play acting comments. Thing is with him he never quite gets it 100% right. I still can't believe he had more time off sick from the job after the attack than his victim due to the stress it caused him. Still he's got a lot of time off now.
One person on here saying he's been stitched up. I doubt it very much. And more time off than his victim??... That's appalling. These "men" seem to be such cry babies, they hit out when it suits them and run to Mummy if it comes back to haunt them. When Cherry's friend, my ex, attacked me he refused to let me phone an ambulance in case the Police arrested him - yeah, sure that's the real worry... nevermind me bleeding all over the bathroom floor pal! Despite me telling the hospital how I got my injuries, he got away with it, I now I wonder if he had any help from his chum in the force? Never got a reason from the CPS as to why they weren't going to pursue it, despite asking! Miss Craft is a brave and strong woman to survive the physical ordeal and follow it to court. She has had a lucky escape and will be able to move on while he stays in limbo... sitting and pondering what his son will think of him. How sad for that little boy.
[quote][p][bold]Iamthewalrus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YouKnowWhatYouDid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Iamthewalrus[/bold] wrote: Not so cocky now in your mafia suit, smirk and dark glasses who was always on the phone outside the court are you? Shame[/p][/quote]Iamthewalrus: you make me laugh! :D It's amazing how they choose to dress isn't it? Appearance is everything - hiding nothing of value underneath. Ok a suit for court I get, but just like medallion man is a stereotype, so is the black shirt / black tie / black shades look... and believe me, he knows that. And as for the phone - maybe we are meant to believe he still has friends to talk to... probably chatting with my ex... when I knew them both, they had a similar attitude and the ex does the same thing if I have the misfortune to see him in the street - it's hilarious how fast the phone rings (silently) mmm coincidence!! :D Going into court accused of this and trying to look intimidating is just ridiculous. Though it did give me a chuckle: "Ah bless, look he's playing gangstaaaaaaaaaaah". Want to look like a real man ? - show courtesy and respect in the first place! In the mean time, Cherry, how about adding a different colour to your wardrobe??![/p][/quote]I agree with the play acting comments. Thing is with him he never quite gets it 100% right. I still can't believe he had more time off sick from the job after the attack than his victim due to the stress it caused him. Still he's got a lot of time off now.[/p][/quote]One person on here saying he's been stitched up. I doubt it very much. And more time off than his victim??... That's appalling. These "men" seem to be such cry babies, they hit out when it suits them and run to Mummy if it comes back to haunt them. When Cherry's friend, my ex, attacked me he refused to let me phone an ambulance in case the Police arrested him - yeah, sure that's the real worry... nevermind me bleeding all over the bathroom floor pal! Despite me telling the hospital how I got my injuries, he got away with it, I now I wonder if he had any help from his chum in the force? Never got a reason from the CPS as to why they weren't going to pursue it, despite asking! Miss Craft is a brave and strong woman to survive the physical ordeal and follow it to court. She has had a lucky escape and will be able to move on while he stays in limbo... sitting and pondering what his son will think of him. How sad for that little boy. YouKnowWhatYouDid

10:00am Mon 10 Sep 12

willis12 says...

Well cherry i really do wish u could read all of these comments and of the comments on twitter facebook etc u are a very marked and known man in dorset and further afield thanks to the modern age of communication your face is everywhere and wont ever be forgotten this will be your first real week of 23 hour bang ups maybe if you decide to actually admit to what u did and be in agreement with the dury u might only do half of that lovely ten years thats now wrapped right round u or do u try to pull another trick admit it and be sorry for what u did to try and to not have to do two thirds of your ten years u never know one of the parole board maybe made u of one of your EX copper colleagues that may through u a branch WE ALL HOPE NOT....
Well cherry i really do wish u could read all of these comments and of the comments on twitter facebook etc u are a very marked and known man in dorset and further afield thanks to the modern age of communication your face is everywhere and wont ever be forgotten this will be your first real week of 23 hour bang ups maybe if you decide to actually admit to what u did and be in agreement with the dury u might only do half of that lovely ten years thats now wrapped right round u or do u try to pull another trick admit it and be sorry for what u did to try and to not have to do two thirds of your ten years u never know one of the parole board maybe made u of one of your EX copper colleagues that may through u a branch WE ALL HOPE NOT.... willis12

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