My family paid £3,000 for surgery after NHS said no (From Daily Echo)

Yet all those bimbos with the dodgy silicone implants- originally implanted privately and for reasons of vanity- have their ops for free......

When people don't bother turning up for their appointments look how much money is lost on the Nhs. People claim for silly things on the Nhs. Also if someone wasn't orginally from UK, do you thnk they wold get priority treatment?

This is shocking that her CARE trust refused treatment and it would have cost no more than £3k and when you think about all the NHS wastes money on other operations like sex changes & boob jobs which should never be allowed on the NHS then money could be better spent on real cases like this poor girl.

People's ire should be directed at the coalition, not the PCT. The govt funding isn't enough to treat everyone, so prioritisations like this have to be made. And Lansley's farcical reforms are only making it worse.

this won't be the full story perhaps her weight/lifestyle has something to do with it. but agreed the false boob thing should never be a nhs issue unless it was breast cancer that was involved

my son needed his ears pinned back as they were stuck out (bat ears) my doctor refered to them as. and we got refused surgery on nhs and got told we can pay to have it done at the cost of £3500 after appealing for 3 years with the pct we finnaly got his operation on the nhs with the same surgon that wanted £3500. im pleased for my son but the nhs is a shambles

hays1179 wrote:
my son needed his ears pinned back as they were stuck out (bat ears) my doctor refered to them as. and we got refused surgery on nhs and got told we can pay to have it done at the cost of £3500 after appealing for 3 years with the pct we finnaly got his operation on the nhs with the same surgon that wanted £3500. im pleased for my son but the nhs is a shambles

I hate to tell you this but he didn't really need that surgery... The girl in this article deserved the money much more than your son.

hays1179 wrote:
my son needed his ears pinned back as they were stuck out (bat ears) my doctor refered to them as. and we got refused surgery on nhs and got told we can pay to have it done at the cost of £3500 after appealing for 3 years with the pct we finnaly got his operation on the nhs with the same surgon that wanted £3500. im pleased for my son but the nhs is a shambles

It's not the NHS that's a shambles, it's the Department of Health.

The NHS does its best to make the best of a bad situation, and whenever it's starting to work, the Government's Department of Health changes things yet again. Which always inevitably costs money that could have been spent on Laura's varicose veins or your son's ears.

my son did need surgery due to years of bullying about his ears and him trying to hurt himself because of the taunts i liked him just how he was but he didnt like himself

Uberarticuno wrote:

hays1179 wrote:
my son needed his ears pinned back as they were stuck out (bat ears) my doctor refered to them as. and we got refused surgery on nhs and got told we can pay to have it done at the cost of £3500 after appealing for 3 years with the pct we finnaly got his operation on the nhs with the same surgon that wanted £3500. im pleased for my son but the nhs is a shambles

I hate to tell you this but he didn't really need that surgery... The girl in this article deserved the money much more than your son.

Children can be very cruel, picking on any slight imperfection in another and taunting them relentlessly. This can affect their school work and make them withdrawn, not wanting to participate with others in case they are teased. A girl who is totally flat-chested can be similarly affected.

Why is it the NHS can't help a 16 year old with a disabling condition with a £3k+ treatment yet the NHS can and have helped prisoners who are doing time for crimes they have committed and already costing this country £1k+ a day get gastric bands and other weight losing treatments worth £8k+ each yet also denying genuine people who haven't committed crimes by placing unreasonable limits on them.

This country is just to **** twisted

cantthinkofone wrote:
People's ire should be directed at the coalition, not the PCT. The govt funding isn't enough to treat everyone, so prioritisations like this have to be made. And Lansley's farcical reforms are only making it worse.

How right you are. Cameron's election promise was, "The NHS is safe in our hands." What a load of 'bullshine' that has turned out to be.

Waiting lists have increased, while nursing and administration staff have been cut back, but it provides more opportunities for private medicine to make more money.

Privatisation of the NHS by stealth.

In 1987 I had my ears 'pinned back' on the NHS. Back then I was told it could be done as I was under 16, although we had to use a hospital outside of our area.

It is very distressing for a young girl to have these 'ugly things' and mentally can make you a very nervous person. The NHS should allow for certain cosmetic operations to allow young people to be more accepted in their peer group.

People are right to lambast Cameron, Lansley et al. The coalition's health policy is a national disgrace. That said, my experience of the NHS in recent years is that it is a pretty shoddy service. The staff are mostly committed and dedicated, that is beyond doubt...... but often basic common sense and compassion goes out of the window. The treatment of old people in particular gives me cause for concern. Lack of resources is an all too easy excuse.

IronLady2010 wrote:
In 1987 I had my ears 'pinned back' on the NHS. Back then I was told it could be done as I was under 16, although we had to use a hospital outside of our area.

It is very distressing for a young girl to have these 'ugly things' and mentally can make you a very nervous person. The NHS should allow for certain cosmetic operations to allow young people to be more accepted in their peer group.

The more you burden the NHS the more likely it will lead to Privatisation because the NHS will become unsustainable.

George4th wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:
In 1987 I had my ears 'pinned back' on the NHS. Back then I was told it could be done as I was under 16, although we had to use a hospital outside of our area.

It is very distressing for a young girl to have these 'ugly things' and mentally can make you a very nervous person. The NHS should allow for certain cosmetic operations to allow young people to be more accepted in their peer group.

The more you burden the NHS the more likely it will lead to Privatisation because the NHS will become unsustainable.

So giving a child the confidence to continue life is not worthy?

Maybe you don't understand the abuse some kids have because they have big ears or Veins.

Sometimes, these operations are justified. I'd rather see a child having an operation rather than find them hanging.

Linesman wrote:

cantthinkofone wrote:
People's ire should be directed at the coalition, not the PCT. The govt funding isn't enough to treat everyone, so prioritisations like this have to be made. And Lansley's farcical reforms are only making it worse.

How right you are. Cameron's election promise was, "The NHS is safe in our hands." What a load of 'bullshine' that has turned out to be.

Waiting lists have increased, while nursing and administration staff have been cut back, but it provides more opportunities for private medicine to make more money.

Privatisation of the NHS by stealth.

Your right.

What the NHS needs is more admin staff, pen pushers and risk assessment suits to bring it bang up to shape.

IronLady2010 wrote:

George4th wrote:

IronLady2010 wrote:
In 1987 I had my ears 'pinned back' on the NHS. Back then I was told it could be done as I was under 16, although we had to use a hospital outside of our area.

It is very distressing for a young girl to have these 'ugly things' and mentally can make you a very nervous person. The NHS should allow for certain cosmetic operations to allow young people to be more accepted in their peer group.

The more you burden the NHS the more likely it will lead to Privatisation because the NHS will become unsustainable.

So giving a child the confidence to continue life is not worthy?

Maybe you don't understand the abuse some kids have because they have big ears or Veins.

Sometimes, these operations are justified. I'd rather see a child having an operation rather than find them hanging.

I do understand - first hand.
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Where do you draw the line? In today's world we are finding more and more reasons for having treatments via the NHS - it is unsustainable.

every one who is born in the uk should have free treatment, if you go out side the uk we have to pay for our treatment and thats what we expect,
foreigners come to the uk and get free treatment then go home, it should all be stopped then they can help all of the british people , its gone to the dog and wont get any better.

louise123 wrote:
every one who is born in the uk should have free treatment, if you go out side the uk we have to pay for our treatment and thats what we expect,
foreigners come to the uk and get free treatment then go home, it should all be stopped then they can help all of the british people , its gone to the dog and wont get any better.

*ahem*

http://www.e111.org.
uk/

A lot of treatments are not health issues in the first place like IVF if you cant have children for whatever reason that is nature and should be accepted as it always has been,we need to draw a line not just for financial reasons but moral reasons otherwise there are no limits, what would you like a boy or a girl what colour hair would you like it to have the possibilities are endless. I am not in a position to comment on the young lady but i would have thought that those in charge of her care know best.

A lot of treatments are not health issues in the first place like IVF if you cant have children for whatever reason that is nature and should be accepted as it always has been,we need to draw a line not just for financial reasons but moral reasons otherwise there are no limits, what would you like a boy or a girl what colour hair would you like it to have the possibilities are endless. I am not in a position to comment on the young lady but i would have thought that those in charge of her care know best.

louise123 wrote:
every one who is born in the uk should have free treatment, if you go out side the uk we have to pay for our treatment and thats what we expect,
foreigners come to the uk and get free treatment then go home, it should all be stopped then they can help all of the british people , its gone to the dog and wont get any better.

"every one who is born in the uk should have free treatment"

Treatment for what?
Hair transplants? Hair extensions? Eyebrow hair removal?
Sorry if I sound facetious but where do you draw the line?

louise123 wrote:
every one who is born in the uk should have free treatment, if you go out side the uk we have to pay for our treatment and thats what we expect,
foreigners come to the uk and get free treatment then go home, it should all be stopped then they can help all of the british people , its gone to the dog and wont get any better.

The problem lies down to the poorer EU countries when it comes to immigrants coming into this country and it is us they pay for their treatment. However if we went to say France we would have to have an E111 card stating that our country will pay for emergency treatment yet we would still have to foot a certain percentage fee which we would have to apply for a refund on return to this country from either the travel insurance or NHS. So another thing that should be investigated is those people coming into this country applying for a NI number and then applying for the E111 and then skipping back to their country and still getting us to pay for it just because they can't afford health insurance for their own country.