‘Trailblazing’ council position commended (From Daily Echo)

This is the same news and even the same picture which appeared in the Guardian on the 9th of August. Why the delay?

http://www.guardian.
co.uk/commentisfree/
2012/aug/09/southamp
ton-chief-scientific
-adviser

Does anybody know how much Prof Bahaj is going to Cost?

When this news of Dear Leader appointing some colleague of his from another body on which he (Dear Leader) also sits was first announced I thought The Professor may be willing to provide his extensive knowledge for free as goodwill towards the City. But that does not appear to be the case.

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Does anybody know how much Prof Bahaj is going to Cost?

When this news of Dear Leader appointing some colleague of his from another body on which he (Dear Leader) also sits was first announced I thought The Professor may be willing to provide his extensive knowledge for free as goodwill towards the City. But that does not appear to be the case.

If he puts in as much time and effort in his job as you put in on these Echo pages, he will be well worth his money.

Oh bloody hell, does this mean the council are about to squander money on man-made global warming nonsense just at the time when the rest of the world is coming to that conclusion.

Fine, but will we see any evidence of value for money? If it's part time, how much time can he dedicate to this new role?

Paramjit

I guess you too have extensive knowledge of the topography of the city as all our taxi drivers undoubtedly do. I'm sure you'd like to provide the benefit of that knowledge for free as goodwill towards the city. I'll make sure to ask for you next time I book a cab.

I have no idea if or how much the Professor is to be paid but I would be surprised if it were to be a huge amount and, if there is a fee, it will anyway be paid for by the savings, either in cash or environmental terms, that his expertise will bring. I don't think you need to imply that this is some sort of sinecure for a colleague of the council leader.

Is it yet another high paid job that has been created for Williams friends? doesn't he sit on several University panels?
Please some one tell me where's all this extra money coming from to pay for two more cabinet posts & if this one is a paid position this one?

Datarater wrote:
This is the same news and even the same picture which appeared in the Guardian on the 9th of August. Why the delay?

http://www.guardian.

co.uk/commentisfree/

2012/aug/09/southamp

ton-chief-scientific

-adviser

This story is the second time its come about in the Echo, this time its just confirmation that he as the job.

loosehead wrote:
Is it yet another high paid job that has been created for Williams friends? doesn't he sit on several University panels?
Please some one tell me where's all this extra money coming from to pay for two more cabinet posts & if this one is a paid position this one?

The savings made by not having a new spin doctor every 3 mths, like the Tory council had.

loosehead wrote:
Is it yet another high paid job that has been created for Williams friends? doesn't he sit on several University panels?
Please some one tell me where's all this extra money coming from to pay for two more cabinet posts & if this one is a paid position this one?

How do you know its high pay ..... Some cllr spin that to you did they.
.

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Is it yet another high paid job that has been created for Williams friends? doesn't he sit on several University panels?
Please some one tell me where's all this extra money coming from to pay for two more cabinet posts & if this one is a paid position this one?

How do you know its high pay ..... Some cllr spin that to you did they.
.

pay is around the £80k mark if I remember rightly, about the same the Tory conncil was paying out for a 3 mth contract for a new PR man.

southy wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Is it yet another high paid job that has been created for Williams friends? doesn't he sit on several University panels?
Please some one tell me where's all this extra money coming from to pay for two more cabinet posts & if this one is a paid position this one?

How do you know its high pay ..... Some cllr spin that to you did they.
.

pay is around the £80k mark if I remember rightly, about the same the Tory conncil was paying out for a 3 mth contract for a new PR man.

Interesting how you seem to be privy to the salaries of people employed by SCC, Conservative and Labour admins, is this available on the public domain?

If you can't provide a source I think we can assume your snatching figures out of the air for a change.

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Is it yet another high paid job that has been created for Williams friends? doesn't he sit on several University panels?
Please some one tell me where's all this extra money coming from to pay for two more cabinet posts & if this one is a paid position this one?

How do you know its high pay ..... Some cllr spin that to you did they.
.

pay is around the £80k mark if I remember rightly, about the same the Tory conncil was paying out for a 3 mth contract for a new PR man.

Interesting how you seem to be privy to the salaries of people employed by SCC, Conservative and Labour admins, is this available on the public domain?

If you can't provide a source I think we can assume your snatching figures out of the air for a change.

Not snatching it has been quoted on the News media just not sure which one and i can not be bothered to go looking for it. Got a feeling it was South today around the 8th and 9th Aug

Shoong wrote:
Fine, but will we see any evidence of value for money? If it's part time, how much time can he dedicate to this new role?

Its alot cheaper than having 4 spin doctors a year each one costing around the £80k mark like the Torys did just to sell you into thing that they tell you what you need.

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:
Fine, but will we see any evidence of value for money? If it's part time, how much time can he dedicate to this new role?

Its alot cheaper than having 4 spin doctors a year each one costing around the £80k mark like the Torys did just to sell you into thing that they tell you what you need.

As you can't back up the claims regarding Conservative spin doctors I'll assume your making it up then. Sorry.

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:
Fine, but will we see any evidence of value for money? If it's part time, how much time can he dedicate to this new role?

Its alot cheaper than having 4 spin doctors a year each one costing around the £80k mark like the Torys did just to sell you into thing that they tell you what you need.

As you can't back up the claims regarding Conservative spin doctors I'll assume your making it up then. Sorry.

I don't need to Its not my problem you have a short term memory span. It was publish enough times in the echo.

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:
Fine, but will we see any evidence of value for money? If it's part time, how much time can he dedicate to this new role?

Its alot cheaper than having 4 spin doctors a year each one costing around the £80k mark like the Torys did just to sell you into thing that they tell you what you need.

As you can't back up the claims regarding Conservative spin doctors I'll assume your making it up then. Sorry.

I don't need to Its not my problem you have a short term memory span. It was publish enough times in the echo.

Ok, so you criticise the Conservative tenure for employing these so called spin doctors with... spin. Superb.

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:
Fine, but will we see any evidence of value for money? If it's part time, how much time can he dedicate to this new role?

Its alot cheaper than having 4 spin doctors a year each one costing around the £80k mark like the Torys did just to sell you into thing that they tell you what you need.

As you can't back up the claims regarding Conservative spin doctors I'll assume your making it up then. Sorry.

I don't need to Its not my problem you have a short term memory span. It was publish enough times in the echo.

Ok, so you criticise the Conservative tenure for employing these so called spin doctors with... spin. Superb.

Not spin at all, if you can not be bothered to do a little bit of researching and reading back logs of the echo news paper that is your problem don't go and try to push it on to some else to do.

southy, the burden of proof is on the accuser. But why does anyone bother, it's like arguing with a brick wall.

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Is it yet another high paid job that has been created for Williams friends? doesn't he sit on several University panels?
Please some one tell me where's all this extra money coming from to pay for two more cabinet posts & if this one is a paid position this one?

How do you know its high pay ..... Some cllr spin that to you did they.
.

£22,000 per new cabinet post on top of councillors pay approx.£33,000 each.
if you indeed read my post I asked if it was a paid post?
if it is they're not going to do it for a refuse collectors wage are they?

southy wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Is it yet another high paid job that has been created for Williams friends? doesn't he sit on several University panels?
Please some one tell me where's all this extra money coming from to pay for two more cabinet posts & if this one is a paid position this one?

The savings made by not having a new spin doctor every 3 mths, like the Tory council had.

Southy I try to debate with you but you are suppose to be standing for a party that should be trying to win votes from Labour aren't you?
SO why do you constantly defend Labour & attack the Tory Party?
How do you justify defending a council that has invented two cabinet posts so giving two of Williams pets a pay rise of £22,000 each?
Now with Williams on University panels we hear of a Uni Professor going to be a scientific advisor?
Exactly what council projects will he be advising on?
Will he be paid for his advice or is he doing it out of the goodness of his heart?
If I was in a Party unless the others did something I agreed with I wouldn't be defending them but trying to argue my case so exactly why aren't you?
Labour Attack dogs on here in you & Lone Ranger after November I bet you'll wish you were both muzzled

Pity...as usual comments have turned into ping pong between us them and in between s.
And even normaly intelligent but nameless individual fans of NuLabour are spewing out their share, in same style when anybody starts asking genuine questions about their dysfunctional darlings. For their info some of us from all political parties have contributed whatever we could in the past, which whether good or bad is open record. But as some nosey individuals on this site keep on hiding behind made up usernames it is not possible to know what their exact contributions were or are, so cannot be compared.

Absolutely no disrespect to very respected professor, because he is going to be an advisor to the Council, it is reasonable to ask if it is a paid position, if so how much it will cost and what kind of administrative back up will be required and implications of that on various budgets.

Mindful of how virtual army of advisory posts created by daddy of NuLabour certain Blair and his buddies, and how some of them behaved (for example, "Good day to bury bad news" etc) citizens have the right to know about possible role of Dear Leader's advisors.

Because the Prof and Dear Leader were linked with each other as members of various bodies, it could be reasonable to ask procedures used for this appointment. How this role got created? Was the Council informed? Was the job advertised and others allowed to apply? Etc. Otherwise suspicion about jobs for buddies can't be quashed...

On slightly different issue. Is anybody aware about how much time Dear Leader actually has been spending in his well paid position of Leader of Council?.... Often when press is trying to ask questions he is either in Brussels or for some reason not available for comment. Even false statement about the health of Cllr. Morrell was signed off by the Deputy Leader. I wonder if Leader of Council office is being exploited for Cllr Williams CV and other political ambitions.

loosehead wrote:
Is it yet another high paid job that has been created for Williams friends? doesn't he sit on several University panels?
Please some one tell me where's all this extra money coming from to pay for two more cabinet posts & if this one is a paid position this one?

Yes these are reasonable questions, pity supporters of party in power are avoiding to provide you the info.

Ask one of your party's councillor to demand answers from administration.

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Is it yet another high paid job that has been created for Williams friends? doesn't he sit on several University panels?
Please some one tell me where's all this extra money coming from to pay for two more cabinet posts & if this one is a paid position this one?

How do you know its high pay ..... Some cllr spin that to you did they.
.

£22,000 per new cabinet post on top of councillors pay approx.£33,000 each.
if you indeed read my post I asked if it was a paid post?
if it is they're not going to do it for a refuse collectors wage are they?

Loosehead,

You are talking out of your backside. All Cllrs get a basic allowance of £11,159.16 P.A. Cllrs who take on the responsibility of becoming Cabinet Members get double the allowance IN TOTAL NOT IN ADDITION, making a figure of £22,218.32 (source SCC website).

The allowances scheme was agreed between all political parties on the Council. You may have a view about whether or not they are worth it but at least get your facts right.

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Pity...as usual comments have turned into ping pong between us them and in between s.
And even normaly intelligent but nameless individual fans of NuLabour are spewing out their share, in same style when anybody starts asking genuine questions about their dysfunctional darlings. For their info some of us from all political parties have contributed whatever we could in the past, which whether good or bad is open record. But as some nosey individuals on this site keep on hiding behind made up usernames it is not possible to know what their exact contributions were or are, so cannot be compared.

Absolutely no disrespect to very respected professor, because he is going to be an advisor to the Council, it is reasonable to ask if it is a paid position, if so how much it will cost and what kind of administrative back up will be required and implications of that on various budgets.

Mindful of how virtual army of advisory posts created by daddy of NuLabour certain Blair and his buddies, and how some of them behaved (for example, "Good day to bury bad news" etc) citizens have the right to know about possible role of Dear Leader's advisors.

Because the Prof and Dear Leader were linked with each other as members of various bodies, it could be reasonable to ask procedures used for this appointment. How this role got created? Was the Council informed? Was the job advertised and others allowed to apply? Etc. Otherwise suspicion about jobs for buddies can't be quashed...

On slightly different issue. Is anybody aware about how much time Dear Leader actually has been spending in his well paid position of Leader of Council?.... Often when press is trying to ask questions he is either in Brussels or for some reason not available for comment. Even false statement about the health of Cllr. Morrell was signed off by the Deputy Leader. I wonder if Leader of Council office is being exploited for Cllr Williams CV and other political ambitions.

That made me smile! Good post.......

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Is it yet another high paid job that has been created for Williams friends? doesn't he sit on several University panels?
Please some one tell me where's all this extra money coming from to pay for two more cabinet posts & if this one is a paid position this one?

How do you know its high pay ..... Some cllr spin that to you did they.
.

£22,000 per new cabinet post on top of councillors pay approx.£33,000 each.
if you indeed read my post I asked if it was a paid post?
if it is they're not going to do it for a refuse collectors wage are they?

You see even your figures are wrong.
.
.
I also saw your little post to Paramjit a week or so ago ......... saying that you are not scared of me and two other posters.
.
Then posted I quote:-but some can't see the truth if you put it under their noses & just start to call you names & then start threatening you.
.
NO Loosehead i have, and neither have the others two posters threatened you ........... You are a LIAR.
.

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Pity...as usual comments have turned into ping pong between us them and in between s.
And even normaly intelligent but nameless individual fans of NuLabour are spewing out their share, in same style when anybody starts asking genuine questions about their dysfunctional darlings. For their info some of us from all political parties have contributed whatever we could in the past, which whether good or bad is open record. But as some nosey individuals on this site keep on hiding behind made up usernames it is not possible to know what their exact contributions were or are, so cannot be compared.

Absolutely no disrespect to very respected professor, because he is going to be an advisor to the Council, it is reasonable to ask if it is a paid position, if so how much it will cost and what kind of administrative back up will be required and implications of that on various budgets.

Mindful of how virtual army of advisory posts created by daddy of NuLabour certain Blair and his buddies, and how some of them behaved (for example, "Good day to bury bad news" etc) citizens have the right to know about possible role of Dear Leader's advisors.

Because the Prof and Dear Leader were linked with each other as members of various bodies, it could be reasonable to ask procedures used for this appointment. How this role got created? Was the Council informed? Was the job advertised and others allowed to apply? Etc. Otherwise suspicion about jobs for buddies can't be quashed...

On slightly different issue. Is anybody aware about how much time Dear Leader actually has been spending in his well paid position of Leader of Council?.... Often when press is trying to ask questions he is either in Brussels or for some reason not available for comment. Even false statement about the health of Cllr. Morrell was signed off by the Deputy Leader. I wonder if Leader of Council office is being exploited for Cllr Williams CV and other political ambitions.

Oh yes PB ....... Very good at dishing it out ...... But i remember your little run in with a poster two weeks who made certain accusations about you ...... And stragely enough you didnt like it too much did you

HillsidePaul wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Is it yet another high paid job that has been created for Williams friends? doesn't he sit on several University panels?
Please some one tell me where's all this extra money coming from to pay for two more cabinet posts & if this one is a paid position this one?

How do you know its high pay ..... Some cllr spin that to you did they.
.

£22,000 per new cabinet post on top of councillors pay approx.£33,000 each.
if you indeed read my post I asked if it was a paid post?
if it is they're not going to do it for a refuse collectors wage are they?

Loosehead,

You are talking out of your backside. All Cllrs get a basic allowance of £11,159.16 P.A. Cllrs who take on the responsibility of becoming Cabinet Members get double the allowance IN TOTAL NOT IN ADDITION, making a figure of £22,218.32 (source SCC website).

The allowances scheme was agreed between all political parties on the Council. You may have a view about whether or not they are worth it but at least get your facts right.

Sorry but as I was a prospective candidate for a political party I know that for each department you take on you get a pay rise & as soon as the councillors they took on other duties like Reviewing Refuse collecting so please get your facts right before you criticise me

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Is it yet another high paid job that has been created for Williams friends? doesn't he sit on several University panels?
Please some one tell me where's all this extra money coming from to pay for two more cabinet posts & if this one is a paid position this one?

How do you know its high pay ..... Some cllr spin that to you did they.
.

£22,000 per new cabinet post on top of councillors pay approx.£33,000 each.
if you indeed read my post I asked if it was a paid post?
if it is they're not going to do it for a refuse collectors wage are they?

You see even your figures are wrong.
.
.
I also saw your little post to Paramjit a week or so ago ......... saying that you are not scared of me and two other posters.
.
Then posted I quote:-but some can't see the truth if you put it under their noses & just start to call you names & then start threatening you.
.
NO Loosehead i have, and neither have the others two posters threatened you ........... You are a LIAR.
.

Sorry my names Wayne what's your's again?
I have been asked to meet one of those people in his local is that not threatening?
I have also been asked to go to Unites branch is that not a hidden threat?
All you do is repeat the same **** & bull no matter how many times people prove with written evidence your wrong.
It sounds like your extremely close to this administration anyone says anything against them or questions them your on here attacking them & calling them liars?
Do you know exactly how much each cabinet member get's paid?
Do you know how much extra they get for each department,each committee or review panel they sit on?
When you have the answer to that you'll find my figures were on the low side.
Will you be capable of coming on here & telling us the true figures?
If you read those posts then you'll know if I wasn't married I would quite happily take up those threats as calling me names & questioning my honesty behind a pseudonym yet I this liar can openly tell people my name & would happily debate with open minded people but you can't classify yourself as open minded can you?

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

HillsidePaul wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Is it yet another high paid job that has been created for Williams friends? doesn't he sit on several University panels?
Please some one tell me where's all this extra money coming from to pay for two more cabinet posts & if this one is a paid position this one?

How do you know its high pay ..... Some cllr spin that to you did they.
.

£22,000 per new cabinet post on top of councillors pay approx.£33,000 each.
if you indeed read my post I asked if it was a paid post?
if it is they're not going to do it for a refuse collectors wage are they?

Loosehead,

You are talking out of your backside. All Cllrs get a basic allowance of £11,159.16 P.A. Cllrs who take on the responsibility of becoming Cabinet Members get double the allowance IN TOTAL NOT IN ADDITION, making a figure of £22,218.32 (source SCC website).

The allowances scheme was agreed between all political parties on the Council. You may have a view about whether or not they are worth it but at least get your facts right.

Any idea how much an average professional ice dancer is paid?

Skaters on banana skins could only be worth less than that

Paramjit you were a councillor could you please explain to these people exactly how much a cabinet member can earn?
Once again they wait until there's more than one of them to throw insults my way.
I can only guess these people have to hunt in packs to defend the Leader

November is remembered for Bonfire night & Remembrance Sunday & this year we'll all be hearing Labours plans for next years budget.
Look at the options.
1/job cuts ( refuse review going on)
2/ increase in council tax
3/ fortnightly bin collections
4/ Services cut leisure like Oaklands Pool axed.
Or there's a combination of all of these.
So when I ask is this post paid for & if so how much is it costing us on top of the two extra cabinet posts that were not needed under the previous administration why do Labour supporters need to attack me & call me LIAR?
So far this council have been spending money we don't have how are they getting this money?
They promised to restore council workers pay now it's only a percentage of them the rest will have to wait until 2014 that's when the Tories were looking to restore it wasn't it?
Any council worker who votes to accept this before November is crazy make you're Unions hold the ballot after the council announcement so making sure you're not being shafted Like Lordshill & Coxford residents are

Param, once again you are using inappropriate terms. The article states that Professor Bahaj, is a fellow of ICE, you then bring in ice skating, followed by a reference.

Loosehead,

I have never accused you of being a liar but you are wrong about Cllr's allowances. And you have compounded the error by finding a second way to be wrong in your reply.

Cllrs may (rarely) have responsabilities that attract more than one allowance, but they are only allowed to claim ONE special responsability allowance from the City Council.

All this information is available on the SCC website. So stop believing your own anti Labour hysteria and check your facts or we will have to start calling you Southy.

loosehead wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

HillsidePaul wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Is it yet another high paid job that has been created for Williams friends? doesn't he sit on several University panels?
Please some one tell me where's all this extra money coming from to pay for two more cabinet posts & if this one is a paid position this one?

How do you know its high pay ..... Some cllr spin that to you did they.
.

£22,000 per new cabinet post on top of councillors pay approx.£33,000 each.
if you indeed read my post I asked if it was a paid post?
if it is they're not going to do it for a refuse collectors wage are they?

Loosehead,

You are talking out of your backside. All Cllrs get a basic allowance of £11,159.16 P.A. Cllrs who take on the responsibility of becoming Cabinet Members get double the allowance IN TOTAL NOT IN ADDITION, making a figure of £22,218.32 (source SCC website).

The allowances scheme was agreed between all political parties on the Council. You may have a view about whether or not they are worth it but at least get your facts right.

Any idea how much an average professional ice dancer is paid?

Skaters on banana skins could only be worth less than that

Paramjit you were a councillor could you please explain to these people exactly how much a cabinet member can earn?
Once again they wait until there's more than one of them to throw insults my way.
I can only guess these people have to hunt in packs to defend the Leader

Loosehead, Yes I know who is using username HillsidePaul. He most certainly is NOT close to Dear Leader led group in the Council. He is independent minded out spoken socialist.

To the best of my knowledge he is NOT a violent person. I have known him for well over 20 years unless I have completely missed, he has not physically attacked anybody. Although on some issues we have had very strong disagreements, I must say he is always open with his views unlike many who say one thing and do the opposite.

As I tried to tell you few days ago, you seem to read too much in what some on the left write. Because they feel strongly on some issues, the feelings get reflected in comments.

I have no doubt if you meet him and others in person you may not agree politically but will find them to be civilised normal humans, without any horns like rhinos!!!

Regarding what councillors are paid, most accurate figure will be available at the end of financial year. Because apart from what they get from Council some of them may also be getting paid for membership of other bodies like Police and Fire Authorities etc. So yes basic headline figures could be misleading.

I remember having read somewhere that Cllr. Jacqui Rayment was highest paid member of NuLabour councillor, because she was also paid as Chair of Police Authority which when added to what she got from council became nearly £40000----- Please check for exact figure.

I think Tory Cllr Smith would also be in similar situation because he would have got paid for membership of Fire Authority.

HillsidePaul wrote:
Loosehead,

I have never accused you of being a liar but you are wrong about Cllr's allowances. And you have compounded the error by finding a second way to be wrong in your reply.

Cllrs may (rarely) have responsabilities that attract more than one allowance, but they are only allowed to claim ONE special responsability allowance from the City Council.

All this information is available on the SCC website. So stop believing your own anti Labour hysteria and check your facts or we will have to start calling you Southy.

I apologise to you I never meant to accuse you it was Lone Ranger who called me a liar so please accept my apology.
I was going on previous left wing posts accusing Royston of being on mega money & not taking a pay cut which he did so I never looked at the figures but I know that they start on £11,000 approx & this increases if they take on other duties

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

HillsidePaul wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Is it yet another high paid job that has been created for Williams friends? doesn't he sit on several University panels?
Please some one tell me where's all this extra money coming from to pay for two more cabinet posts & if this one is a paid position this one?

How do you know its high pay ..... Some cllr spin that to you did they.
.

£22,000 per new cabinet post on top of councillors pay approx.£33,000 each.
if you indeed read my post I asked if it was a paid post?
if it is they're not going to do it for a refuse collectors wage are they?

Loosehead,

You are talking out of your backside. All Cllrs get a basic allowance of £11,159.16 P.A. Cllrs who take on the responsibility of becoming Cabinet Members get double the allowance IN TOTAL NOT IN ADDITION, making a figure of £22,218.32 (source SCC website).

The allowances scheme was agreed between all political parties on the Council. You may have a view about whether or not they are worth it but at least get your facts right.

Any idea how much an average professional ice dancer is paid?

Skaters on banana skins could only be worth less than that

Paramjit you were a councillor could you please explain to these people exactly how much a cabinet member can earn?
Once again they wait until there's more than one of them to throw insults my way.
I can only guess these people have to hunt in packs to defend the Leader

Loosehead, Yes I know who is using username HillsidePaul. He most certainly is NOT close to Dear Leader led group in the Council. He is independent minded out spoken socialist.

To the best of my knowledge he is NOT a violent person. I have known him for well over 20 years unless I have completely missed, he has not physically attacked anybody. Although on some issues we have had very strong disagreements, I must say he is always open with his views unlike many who say one thing and do the opposite.

As I tried to tell you few days ago, you seem to read too much in what some on the left write. Because they feel strongly on some issues, the feelings get reflected in comments.

I have no doubt if you meet him and others in person you may not agree politically but will find them to be civilised normal humans, without any horns like rhinos!!!

Regarding what councillors are paid, most accurate figure will be available at the end of financial year. Because apart from what they get from Council some of them may also be getting paid for membership of other bodies like Police and Fire Authorities etc. So yes basic headline figures could be misleading.

I remember having read somewhere that Cllr. Jacqui Rayment was highest paid member of NuLabour councillor, because she was also paid as Chair of Police Authority which when added to what she got from council became nearly £40000----- Please check for exact figure.

I think Tory Cllr Smith would also be in similar situation because he would have got paid for membership of Fire Authority.

Thank you ,I never meant to include Hillside in the threat scenario but Ant Smoking has invited me to Union building & I take that as a hidden threat wouldn't you?

loosehead wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

HillsidePaul wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Is it yet another high paid job that has been created for Williams friends? doesn't he sit on several University panels?
Please some one tell me where's all this extra money coming from to pay for two more cabinet posts & if this one is a paid position this one?

How do you know its high pay ..... Some cllr spin that to you did they.
.

£22,000 per new cabinet post on top of councillors pay approx.£33,000 each.
if you indeed read my post I asked if it was a paid post?
if it is they're not going to do it for a refuse collectors wage are they?

Loosehead,

You are talking out of your backside. All Cllrs get a basic allowance of £11,159.16 P.A. Cllrs who take on the responsibility of becoming Cabinet Members get double the allowance IN TOTAL NOT IN ADDITION, making a figure of £22,218.32 (source SCC website).

The allowances scheme was agreed between all political parties on the Council. You may have a view about whether or not they are worth it but at least get your facts right.

Any idea how much an average professional ice dancer is paid?

Skaters on banana skins could only be worth less than that

Paramjit you were a councillor could you please explain to these people exactly how much a cabinet member can earn?
Once again they wait until there's more than one of them to throw insults my way.
I can only guess these people have to hunt in packs to defend the Leader

Loosehead, Yes I know who is using username HillsidePaul. He most certainly is NOT close to Dear Leader led group in the Council. He is independent minded out spoken socialist.

To the best of my knowledge he is NOT a violent person. I have known him for well over 20 years unless I have completely missed, he has not physically attacked anybody. Although on some issues we have had very strong disagreements, I must say he is always open with his views unlike many who say one thing and do the opposite.

As I tried to tell you few days ago, you seem to read too much in what some on the left write. Because they feel strongly on some issues, the feelings get reflected in comments.

I have no doubt if you meet him and others in person you may not agree politically but will find them to be civilised normal humans, without any horns like rhinos!!!

Regarding what councillors are paid, most accurate figure will be available at the end of financial year. Because apart from what they get from Council some of them may also be getting paid for membership of other bodies like Police and Fire Authorities etc. So yes basic headline figures could be misleading.

I remember having read somewhere that Cllr. Jacqui Rayment was highest paid member of NuLabour councillor, because she was also paid as Chair of Police Authority which when added to what she got from council became nearly £40000----- Please check for exact figure.

I think Tory Cllr Smith would also be in similar situation because he would have got paid for membership of Fire Authority.

Thank you ,I never meant to include Hillside in the threat scenario but Ant Smoking has invited me to Union building & I take that as a hidden threat wouldn't you?

What a Whimp you are loosehead .... so you think being invited to a Union building is a hidden threat.
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I think that you should have online debates with the Dandy, Beano or Womens Own ........ Pathetic

I agree with Parmajit and the dissenters on this one. Appointing an engineer as an advisor (for FREE advice) is fine in an honorary position. Thinking about transport, civil engineering projects etc. However when that advice is to push the man-made global warming scam, green taxes and build "green" power plants in Northam and Shirley for example, which burn sun baked horse manure and cow pats to generate electricity etc. I'm not really too impressed.

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

HillsidePaul wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Is it yet another high paid job that has been created for Williams friends? doesn't he sit on several University panels?
Please some one tell me where's all this extra money coming from to pay for two more cabinet posts & if this one is a paid position this one?

How do you know its high pay ..... Some cllr spin that to you did they.
.

£22,000 per new cabinet post on top of councillors pay approx.£33,000 each.
if you indeed read my post I asked if it was a paid post?
if it is they're not going to do it for a refuse collectors wage are they?

Loosehead,

You are talking out of your backside. All Cllrs get a basic allowance of £11,159.16 P.A. Cllrs who take on the responsibility of becoming Cabinet Members get double the allowance IN TOTAL NOT IN ADDITION, making a figure of £22,218.32 (source SCC website).

The allowances scheme was agreed between all political parties on the Council. You may have a view about whether or not they are worth it but at least get your facts right.

Any idea how much an average professional ice dancer is paid?

Skaters on banana skins could only be worth less than that

Paramjit you were a councillor could you please explain to these people exactly how much a cabinet member can earn?
Once again they wait until there's more than one of them to throw insults my way.
I can only guess these people have to hunt in packs to defend the Leader

Loosehead, Yes I know who is using username HillsidePaul. He most certainly is NOT close to Dear Leader led group in the Council. He is independent minded out spoken socialist.

To the best of my knowledge he is NOT a violent person. I have known him for well over 20 years unless I have completely missed, he has not physically attacked anybody. Although on some issues we have had very strong disagreements, I must say he is always open with his views unlike many who say one thing and do the opposite.

As I tried to tell you few days ago, you seem to read too much in what some on the left write. Because they feel strongly on some issues, the feelings get reflected in comments.

I have no doubt if you meet him and others in person you may not agree politically but will find them to be civilised normal humans, without any horns like rhinos!!!

Regarding what councillors are paid, most accurate figure will be available at the end of financial year. Because apart from what they get from Council some of them may also be getting paid for membership of other bodies like Police and Fire Authorities etc. So yes basic headline figures could be misleading.

I remember having read somewhere that Cllr. Jacqui Rayment was highest paid member of NuLabour councillor, because she was also paid as Chair of Police Authority which when added to what she got from council became nearly £40000----- Please check for exact figure.

I think Tory Cllr Smith would also be in similar situation because he would have got paid for membership of Fire Authority.

Thank you ,I never meant to include Hillside in the threat scenario but Ant Smoking has invited me to Union building & I take that as a hidden threat wouldn't you?

What a Whimp you are loosehead .... so you think being invited to a Union building is a hidden threat.
.
I think that you should have online debates with the Dandy, Beano or Womens Own ........ Pathetic

So now you think I'm a wimp? you don't know me but have come to that conclusion?
Quite happy to ignore a prat like you but wait Until Novembers announcement then I'll have fun or will you refuse to accept what Labour announces?

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

HillsidePaul wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Is it yet another high paid job that has been created for Williams friends? doesn't he sit on several University panels?
Please some one tell me where's all this extra money coming from to pay for two more cabinet posts & if this one is a paid position this one?

How do you know its high pay ..... Some cllr spin that to you did they.
.

£22,000 per new cabinet post on top of councillors pay approx.£33,000 each.
if you indeed read my post I asked if it was a paid post?
if it is they're not going to do it for a refuse collectors wage are they?

Loosehead,

You are talking out of your backside. All Cllrs get a basic allowance of £11,159.16 P.A. Cllrs who take on the responsibility of becoming Cabinet Members get double the allowance IN TOTAL NOT IN ADDITION, making a figure of £22,218.32 (source SCC website).

The allowances scheme was agreed between all political parties on the Council. You may have a view about whether or not they are worth it but at least get your facts right.

Any idea how much an average professional ice dancer is paid?

Skaters on banana skins could only be worth less than that

Paramjit you were a councillor could you please explain to these people exactly how much a cabinet member can earn?
Once again they wait until there's more than one of them to throw insults my way.
I can only guess these people have to hunt in packs to defend the Leader

Loosehead, Yes I know who is using username HillsidePaul. He most certainly is NOT close to Dear Leader led group in the Council. He is independent minded out spoken socialist.

To the best of my knowledge he is NOT a violent person. I have known him for well over 20 years unless I have completely missed, he has not physically attacked anybody. Although on some issues we have had very strong disagreements, I must say he is always open with his views unlike many who say one thing and do the opposite.

As I tried to tell you few days ago, you seem to read too much in what some on the left write. Because they feel strongly on some issues, the feelings get reflected in comments.

I have no doubt if you meet him and others in person you may not agree politically but will find them to be civilised normal humans, without any horns like rhinos!!!

Regarding what councillors are paid, most accurate figure will be available at the end of financial year. Because apart from what they get from Council some of them may also be getting paid for membership of other bodies like Police and Fire Authorities etc. So yes basic headline figures could be misleading.

I remember having read somewhere that Cllr. Jacqui Rayment was highest paid member of NuLabour councillor, because she was also paid as Chair of Police Authority which when added to what she got from council became nearly £40000----- Please check for exact figure.

I think Tory Cllr Smith would also be in similar situation because he would have got paid for membership of Fire Authority.

Thank you ,I never meant to include Hillside in the threat scenario but Ant Smoking has invited me to Union building & I take that as a hidden threat wouldn't you?

What a Whimp you are loosehead .... so you think being invited to a Union building is a hidden threat.
.
I think that you should have online debates with the Dandy, Beano or Womens Own ........ Pathetic

So now you think I'm a wimp? you don't know me but have come to that conclusion?
Quite happy to ignore a prat like you but wait Until Novembers announcement then I'll have fun or will you refuse to accept what Labour announces?

No you are a self confessed WHIMP.
.
How the hell does an invite to a union building constitute a threat .... lol.
.
November !!!!!! Why should I worry about what Labour announce.
.
I cant change it ......... And i am sure that it is nowhere near as bad as the previous jokers or indeed very tame compared to Slippery Dave and Useless George .....

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

HillsidePaul wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Is it yet another high paid job that has been created for Williams friends? doesn't he sit on several University panels?
Please some one tell me where's all this extra money coming from to pay for two more cabinet posts & if this one is a paid position this one?

How do you know its high pay ..... Some cllr spin that to you did they.
.

£22,000 per new cabinet post on top of councillors pay approx.£33,000 each.
if you indeed read my post I asked if it was a paid post?
if it is they're not going to do it for a refuse collectors wage are they?

Loosehead,

You are talking out of your backside. All Cllrs get a basic allowance of £11,159.16 P.A. Cllrs who take on the responsibility of becoming Cabinet Members get double the allowance IN TOTAL NOT IN ADDITION, making a figure of £22,218.32 (source SCC website).

The allowances scheme was agreed between all political parties on the Council. You may have a view about whether or not they are worth it but at least get your facts right.

Any idea how much an average professional ice dancer is paid?

Skaters on banana skins could only be worth less than that

Paramjit you were a councillor could you please explain to these people exactly how much a cabinet member can earn?
Once again they wait until there's more than one of them to throw insults my way.
I can only guess these people have to hunt in packs to defend the Leader

Loosehead, Yes I know who is using username HillsidePaul. He most certainly is NOT close to Dear Leader led group in the Council. He is independent minded out spoken socialist.

To the best of my knowledge he is NOT a violent person. I have known him for well over 20 years unless I have completely missed, he has not physically attacked anybody. Although on some issues we have had very strong disagreements, I must say he is always open with his views unlike many who say one thing and do the opposite.

As I tried to tell you few days ago, you seem to read too much in what some on the left write. Because they feel strongly on some issues, the feelings get reflected in comments.

I have no doubt if you meet him and others in person you may not agree politically but will find them to be civilised normal humans, without any horns like rhinos!!!

Regarding what councillors are paid, most accurate figure will be available at the end of financial year. Because apart from what they get from Council some of them may also be getting paid for membership of other bodies like Police and Fire Authorities etc. So yes basic headline figures could be misleading.

I remember having read somewhere that Cllr. Jacqui Rayment was highest paid member of NuLabour councillor, because she was also paid as Chair of Police Authority which when added to what she got from council became nearly £40000----- Please check for exact figure.

I think Tory Cllr Smith would also be in similar situation because he would have got paid for membership of Fire Authority.

Thank you ,I never meant to include Hillside in the threat scenario but Ant Smoking has invited me to Union building & I take that as a hidden threat wouldn't you?

What a Whimp you are loosehead .... so you think being invited to a Union building is a hidden threat.
.
I think that you should have online debates with the Dandy, Beano or Womens Own ........ Pathetic

So now you think I'm a wimp? you don't know me but have come to that conclusion?
Quite happy to ignore a prat like you but wait Until Novembers announcement then I'll have fun or will you refuse to accept what Labour announces?

No you are a self confessed WHIMP.
.
How the hell does an invite to a union building constitute a threat .... lol.
.
November !!!!!! Why should I worry about what Labour announce.
.
I cant change it ......... And i am sure that it is nowhere near as bad as the previous jokers or indeed very tame compared to Slippery Dave and Useless George .....

For one spell the word correctly WIMP.
if you had read the post it was not the offer but what lead up to the offer