Ford bosses cannot rule out job losses (From Daily Echo)

Can we attract a Chinese/Japanese company?
It seems that Fords are looking to areas where they can get cheap labour & slowly are pulling out of the UK & germany in favour of countries like Turkey

Might help if they made decent vans. Switched our fleet to VW, saved thousands and the head gaskets don't blow up after 3 months.

Shoong wrote:
Might help if they made decent vans. Switched our fleet to VW, saved thousands and the head gaskets don't blow up after 3 months.

Could you not have bought British built Japanese vans? or maybe LV's

Shoong wrote:
Might help if they made decent vans. Switched our fleet to VW, saved thousands and the head gaskets don't blow up after 3 months.

Teach them how to drive then, and stop reving the guts out of the engine, they should not be blowing head gaskets till at lest a 1/4 million miles, Ford diesels are very good engines they are that good they are used for marine engines, unlike VW engines they just can't take it being put in a boat

loosehead wrote:
Can we attract a Chinese/Japanese company?
It seems that Fords are looking to areas where they can get cheap labour & slowly are pulling out of the UK & germany in favour of countries like Turkey

Agree this is all about making the biggest profit with the smallest amounts of cost.

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:
Might help if they made decent vans. Switched our fleet to VW, saved thousands and the head gaskets don't blow up after 3 months.

Teach them how to drive then, and stop reving the guts out of the engine, they should not be blowing head gaskets till at lest a 1/4 million miles, Ford diesels are very good engines they are that good they are used for marine engines, unlike VW engines they just can't take it being put in a boat

Well, its funny, they've been driving them the VWs same way they did the Transits but not a hint of a problem with the VWs. No-one was ragging them, that's arrogant assumption on your part.

Therefore we concluded Fords products were bad and got shot of.

p.s. we don't drive boats therefore that is completely irrelevant, yet again.

southy wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Can we attract a Chinese/Japanese company?
It seems that Fords are looking to areas where they can get cheap labour & slowly are pulling out of the UK & germany in favour of countries like Turkey

Agree this is all about making the biggest profit with the smallest amounts of cost.

Wow, could it be you're actually only now understanding how business works.

Hallelujah!

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Can we attract a Chinese/Japanese company?
It seems that Fords are looking to areas where they can get cheap labour & slowly are pulling out of the UK & germany in favour of countries like Turkey

Agree this is all about making the biggest profit with the smallest amounts of cost.

Wow, could it be you're actually only now understanding how business works.

Hallelujah!

I all ways under stid and under right wing policy it is all ways the majority that will suffer and never the few.

Let fords pull out and nationalise that factory

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Can we attract a Chinese/Japanese company?
It seems that Fords are looking to areas where they can get cheap labour & slowly are pulling out of the UK & germany in favour of countries like Turkey

Agree this is all about making the biggest profit with the smallest amounts of cost.

Wow, could it be you're actually only now understanding how business works.

Hallelujah!

I all ways under stid and under right wing policy it is all ways the majority that will suffer and never the few.

Let fords pull out and nationalise that factory

Yes, great idea, they can be paid less out of tax payers money and go on strike after a feigned attempt at negotiations 6 months later.

I take it back.

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:
Might help if they made decent vans. Switched our fleet to VW, saved thousands and the head gaskets don't blow up after 3 months.

Teach them how to drive then, and stop reving the guts out of the engine, they should not be blowing head gaskets till at lest a 1/4 million miles, Ford diesels are very good engines they are that good they are used for marine engines, unlike VW engines they just can't take it being put in a boat

Well, its funny, they've been driving them the VWs same way they did the Transits but not a hint of a problem with the VWs. No-one was ragging them, that's arrogant assumption on your part.

Therefore we concluded Fords products were bad and got shot of.

p.s. we don't drive boats therefore that is completely irrelevant, yet again.

Its poor driving and bad driving theres no getting away with that, You don't need to own a boat and is completely relevant, its only very good reliable engines you put in Boats, not rubbish engines they break down on the water you are in bigger problems than on land, so engines for boats need to be reliable and not break down.

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Can we attract a Chinese/Japanese company?
It seems that Fords are looking to areas where they can get cheap labour & slowly are pulling out of the UK & germany in favour of countries like Turkey

Agree this is all about making the biggest profit with the smallest amounts of cost.

Wow, could it be you're actually only now understanding how business works.

Hallelujah!

I all ways under stid and under right wing policy it is all ways the majority that will suffer and never the few.

Let fords pull out and nationalise that factory

Yes, great idea, they can be paid less out of tax payers money and go on strike after a feigned attempt at negotiations 6 months later.

I take it back.

A few strikes do not do any harm, theres a big plus to nationalise industarys there profit go's to wards a country debt to be paid off

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:
Might help if they made decent vans. Switched our fleet to VW, saved thousands and the head gaskets don't blow up after 3 months.

Teach them how to drive then, and stop reving the guts out of the engine, they should not be blowing head gaskets till at lest a 1/4 million miles, Ford diesels are very good engines they are that good they are used for marine engines, unlike VW engines they just can't take it being put in a boat

Well, its funny, they've been driving them the VWs same way they did the Transits but not a hint of a problem with the VWs. No-one was ragging them, that's arrogant assumption on your part.

Therefore we concluded Fords products were bad and got shot of.

p.s. we don't drive boats therefore that is completely irrelevant, yet again.

Its poor driving and bad driving theres no getting away with that, You don't need to own a boat and is completely relevant, its only very good reliable engines you put in Boats, not rubbish engines they break down on the water you are in bigger problems than on land, so engines for boats need to be reliable and not break down.

And your experience of running a fleet of vehicles and making pruchase decisions based on reliability/performa
nce and running costs is???????????

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:
Might help if they made decent vans. Switched our fleet to VW, saved thousands and the head gaskets don't blow up after 3 months.

Teach them how to drive then, and stop reving the guts out of the engine, they should not be blowing head gaskets till at lest a 1/4 million miles, Ford diesels are very good engines they are that good they are used for marine engines, unlike VW engines they just can't take it being put in a boat

Well, its funny, they've been driving them the VWs same way they did the Transits but not a hint of a problem with the VWs. No-one was ragging them, that's arrogant assumption on your part.

Therefore we concluded Fords products were bad and got shot of.

p.s. we don't drive boats therefore that is completely irrelevant, yet again.

Its poor driving and bad driving theres no getting away with that, You don't need to own a boat and is completely relevant, its only very good reliable engines you put in Boats, not rubbish engines they break down on the water you are in bigger problems than on land, so engines for boats need to be reliable and not break down.

What do you drive then? Be honest pls.

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Can we attract a Chinese/Japanese company?
It seems that Fords are looking to areas where they can get cheap labour & slowly are pulling out of the UK & germany in favour of countries like Turkey

Agree this is all about making the biggest profit with the smallest amounts of cost.

Wow, could it be you're actually only now understanding how business works.

Hallelujah!

I all ways under stid and under right wing policy it is all ways the majority that will suffer and never the few.

Let fords pull out and nationalise that factory

Yes, great idea, they can be paid less out of tax payers money and go on strike after a feigned attempt at negotiations 6 months later.

I take it back.

A few strikes do not do any harm, theres a big plus to nationalise industarys there profit go's to wards a country debt to be paid off

No, strikes don't harm a countries economy at all , no.

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:
Might help if they made decent vans. Switched our fleet to VW, saved thousands and the head gaskets don't blow up after 3 months.

Teach them how to drive then, and stop reving the guts out of the engine, they should not be blowing head gaskets till at lest a 1/4 million miles, Ford diesels are very good engines they are that good they are used for marine engines, unlike VW engines they just can't take it being put in a boat

Well, its funny, they've been driving them the VWs same way they did the Transits but not a hint of a problem with the VWs. No-one was ragging them, that's arrogant assumption on your part.

Therefore we concluded Fords products were bad and got shot of.

p.s. we don't drive boats therefore that is completely irrelevant, yet again.

Its poor driving and bad driving theres no getting away with that, You don't need to own a boat and is completely relevant, its only very good reliable engines you put in Boats, not rubbish engines they break down on the water you are in bigger problems than on land, so engines for boats need to be reliable and not break down.

I'm not talking about boats, WTF do I care about putting van engines in boats??

His head's gone.

Take the Carrot Boys so I will have more Pension Money in my Pot when I am 65!

southy wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Can we attract a Chinese/Japanese company?
It seems that Fords are looking to areas where they can get cheap labour & slowly are pulling out of the UK & germany in favour of countries like Turkey

Agree this is all about making the biggest profit with the smallest amounts of cost.

Ford isn't a registered charity and like any business they look to keep costs down especially when the market for this type of vehicle has a choice of so many others. Like most of the population you are happy to buy goods made in China and would probably be the first to squeal about malpractice if your choice was restricted to higher priced UK manufactured items to preserve jobs in this country.

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Can we attract a Chinese/Japanese company?
It seems that Fords are looking to areas where they can get cheap labour & slowly are pulling out of the UK & germany in favour of countries like Turkey

Agree this is all about making the biggest profit with the smallest amounts of cost.

Wow, could it be you're actually only now understanding how business works.

Hallelujah!

I all ways under stid and under right wing policy it is all ways the majority that will suffer and never the few.

Let fords pull out and nationalise that factory

.. 'nationalise that factory'!!!!

You mean buy the building?

What good will that do?

Ford would not let Transit production continue; why should they?

The machinery within would be dismantled and shipped abroad.

So what will they construct in this empty building?

hulla baloo wrote:

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Shoong wrote:
Might help if they made decent vans. Switched our fleet to VW, saved thousands and the head gaskets don't blow up after 3 months.

Teach them how to drive then, and stop reving the guts out of the engine, they should not be blowing head gaskets till at lest a 1/4 million miles, Ford diesels are very good engines they are that good they are used for marine engines, unlike VW engines they just can't take it being put in a boat

Well, its funny, they've been driving them the VWs same way they did the Transits but not a hint of a problem with the VWs. No-one was ragging them, that's arrogant assumption on your part.

Therefore we concluded Fords products were bad and got shot of.

p.s. we don't drive boats therefore that is completely irrelevant, yet again.

Its poor driving and bad driving theres no getting away with that, You don't need to own a boat and is completely relevant, its only very good reliable engines you put in Boats, not rubbish engines they break down on the water you are in bigger problems than on land, so engines for boats need to be reliable and not break down.

And your experience of running a fleet of vehicles and making pruchase decisions based on reliability/performa

nce and running costs is???????????

Well?

Fleet sales go for the lower deal dont they Fords did not push the A Series enough got greedy with the Tranny!

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Can we attract a Chinese/Japanese company?
It seems that Fords are looking to areas where they can get cheap labour & slowly are pulling out of the UK & germany in favour of countries like Turkey

Agree this is all about making the biggest profit with the smallest amounts of cost.

Ford isn't a registered charity and like any business they look to keep costs down especially when the market for this type of vehicle has a choice of so many others. Like most of the population you are happy to buy goods made in China and would probably be the first to squeal about malpractice if your choice was restricted to higher priced UK manufactured items to preserve jobs in this country.

when I shop I look for the Made In England sign.
I would not buy Chinese if there was any alternative.
You get the very best of what that country can make I've lived in a country where they get the normal Chinese quality & it's poor.
If our Unions could only see that the cheaper we can make our products the more we'll sell & the more jobs we'd have?
In Germany the Unions agreed with a package of pay cuts & the sales went through the roof & more people were employed it's basic economics.
Many countries they buy local products before they'd buy foreign why don't we?

The VW Transporter is a seriously better product.

I don't care where it comes from - I just want the better van.

Or as Roy Winstone puts it on the radio adverts:

'vaaaaaaaan'

me old cockney geezer.

Shoong wrote:
The VW Transporter is a seriously better product.

I don't care where it comes from - I just want the better van.

Or as Roy Winstone puts it on the radio adverts:

'vaaaaaaaan'

me old cockney geezer.

Shoong I had a Nissan pick up & found that great & it was made here so isn't there no other Made In Britain Van besides Ford?

Bring back Hourly Paid jobs and please do away with the middle man costs to high!

I suspect if the unions worked better with Ford management jobs would have a better chance of being saved.
We need moderate Union leaders to work hand in hand with management in order to save jobs now and in future.
Militant unions will destroy jobs and this country if we let them.
I hope I am wrong, but all I hear from Union leaders is aggro, not intelligent comment.

after watching watch dog on the BBC people who buy German Vehicles are in a dream world if they think they're so good.
Shoong if you can come on here & argue with the likes of Southy surely you should buy British or at least British built vehicles?
Any business man who doesn't buy a British built anything but buys from abroad I have no time for & I don't think has the right to comment on the Unions or people out of work as they have shown they don't give a **** about them

loosehead wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:

loosehead wrote: Can we attract a Chinese/Japanese company? It seems that Fords are looking to areas where they can get cheap labour & slowly are pulling out of the UK & germany in favour of countries like Turkey

Agree this is all about making the biggest profit with the smallest amounts of cost.

Ford isn't a registered charity and like any business they look to keep costs down especially when the market for this type of vehicle has a choice of so many others. Like most of the population you are happy to buy goods made in China and would probably be the first to squeal about malpractice if your choice was restricted to higher priced UK manufactured items to preserve jobs in this country.

when I shop I look for the Made In England sign. I would not buy Chinese if there was any alternative. You get the very best of what that country can make I've lived in a country where they get the normal Chinese quality & it's poor. If our Unions could only see that the cheaper we can make our products the more we'll sell & the more jobs we'd have? In Germany the Unions agreed with a package of pay cuts & the sales went through the roof & more people were employed it's basic economics. Many countries they buy local products before they'd buy foreign why don't we?

Why don't we buy British - because we're a very very small country and don't have the capacity to produce everything we need. Cut us off from the rest of the world and we're banjaxxed.

Weird thing is I drove past the Ford factory the other day and wondered how long before it's replaced by flats, houses, and streets named 'Transit Close', 'Heinz Mews' and 'Ford Road'

Huffter wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:

loosehead wrote: Can we attract a Chinese/Japanese company? It seems that Fords are looking to areas where they can get cheap labour & slowly are pulling out of the UK & germany in favour of countries like Turkey

Agree this is all about making the biggest profit with the smallest amounts of cost.

Ford isn't a registered charity and like any business they look to keep costs down especially when the market for this type of vehicle has a choice of so many others. Like most of the population you are happy to buy goods made in China and would probably be the first to squeal about malpractice if your choice was restricted to higher priced UK manufactured items to preserve jobs in this country.

when I shop I look for the Made In England sign. I would not buy Chinese if there was any alternative. You get the very best of what that country can make I've lived in a country where they get the normal Chinese quality & it's poor. If our Unions could only see that the cheaper we can make our products the more we'll sell & the more jobs we'd have? In Germany the Unions agreed with a package of pay cuts & the sales went through the roof & more people were employed it's basic economics. Many countries they buy local products before they'd buy foreign why don't we?

Why don't we buy British - because we're a very very small country and don't have the capacity to produce everything we need. Cut us off from the rest of the world and we're banjaxxed.

What absolute rubbish! We were world leaders in manufacturing ! Japan's a small country are you saying they can't produce what they need?
Companies here see a cheap alternative & buy it no matter how many jobs here depend on that product.
Saw a program about cushion making company in Speke Liverpool they were winding up business here & producing in China until they worked out all the figures,
Chinese workers were asking for more pay which made them dearer than here so the boss did a U-Turn & expanded here & many companies were considering coming back here.
To say Ford transits are poor quality so I bought German is a cop out.
I've seen German & Chinese quality abroad & British & American products are seen as high quality there so why this distinct Anti British feeling here in Britain? is it because to under cut British built products the foreign companies offer the world to get the business?
I've seen clapped out new VW's so it's not down to reliability so why not tell the truth?
After being in the TA (RCT) & driving old British built vehicles & a few new foreign ones we had more break downs with the new ones than the old

I had a your round the Ford factory last year.
Very interesting.
However the infrastructure seems very outdated compared to other vehicle manufacturing factories elsewhere in the Uk and abroad (part of the factory is listed!!)
Apparently Ford would like to update but there is no Govt or EC help available as is the case elsewhere in the UK or in Europe.
That seems to be a recurrent theme in the 'well off' (as seen by those in power) South