Charity box thief admits he's lowest of low

Daily Echo: Glen Williams Glen Williams

A THIEF who stole two charity boxes from Southampton General Hospital has admitted he is the “lowest of the low”.

Drug addict Glen Williams and accomplice Samantha Parker were caught on CCTV stealing the tins filled with donations given by generous patients and their families.

A court heard that Williams had told police what he had done was a “really low act and chavvy thing to do”.

Last night the charities targeted branded the thefts saddening and disappointing and welcomed the prosecutions.

The money – about £100 in total – was destined for Cancer Research UK and the Hampshire and Isle of Wight Air Ambulance.

Southampton Magistrates’ Court heard how the couple were spotted stealing the boxes by a sharp-eyed Costa Coffee worker.

Parker, a 33-year-old heroin addict, stuffed them under her clothes, while Williams, a drug addict of 26 years, cuddled her as they fled the hospital.

But the worker told security guards, who tracked them down on the CCTV cameras and called police who followed the pair to a flat in Coxford Road.

The pair admitted smashing open the boxes and taking the money before hiding the empty containers on the roof of the block of flats.

They intended to use the cash for drugs, the court heard.

It was revealed in court that Parker had only just come out of jail when she stole the money – and was even on police bail for stealing chilled meats and cheeses from One Shop at the time, which she also pleaded guilty to in court.

Meanwhile, Williams was in breach of a conditional discharge handed to him for stealing a £39.99 food processor from Argos in Southampton in January. Parker’s defence solicitor Chris Gaiger urged magistrates to jail his client – saying she wanted to be in prison for at least eight months so she could detox from her heroin addiction.

He said: “She wants to go to prison. She has a very serious heroin problem which leads her to commit offences very often. If she walks free today she said she has no money and she will resort to stealing.

“I appreciate it is a strange request but she wants to detox and she said this takes at least 28 days.”

David Adams, representing Williams, said that his client in police interview had admitted it was a stupid mistake saying “it is a really low act and chavvy thing to do”.

He said: “Mr Williams understands the offence is very unpleasant and that it makes the public very indignant. Any theft of a charity box is to be deplored, Mr Williams understands this.

“I think he has an understanding of how low he has stooped by stealing from charities in this way and I would ask the court to take this as genuine remorse.”

He added Williams wanted to turn his life around and break the drug cycle and would “grasp any opportunity the courts are prepared to put his way.”

Chairman of the bench Ann Press branded it a “particularly nasty offence” and jailed Parker for 12 weeks for the charity box thefts and two weeks for the One Stop theft.

She handed Williams a 12-week jail sentence suspended for 12 months and ordered him to complete a nine-month drug rehabilitation programme.

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8:47am Sat 29 Sep 12

Maine Lobster says...

2 years hard labour would have been more appropriate.Work them so hard they won't have time to take drugs. They will be out in 6 weeks to steal again.
2 years hard labour would have been more appropriate.Work them so hard they won't have time to take drugs. They will be out in 6 weeks to steal again. Maine Lobster

9:44am Sat 29 Sep 12

chunky_lover says...

Maine Lobster wrote:
2 years hard labour would have been more appropriate.Work them so hard they won't have time to take drugs. They will be out in 6 weeks to steal again.
Agree, send these scum to the frontline.
[quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: 2 years hard labour would have been more appropriate.Work them so hard they won't have time to take drugs. They will be out in 6 weeks to steal again.[/p][/quote]Agree, send these scum to the frontline. chunky_lover

10:32am Sat 29 Sep 12

Lockssmart says...

Send them to the Isle of Wight. Punishment enough for anyone.
Send them to the Isle of Wight. Punishment enough for anyone. Lockssmart

11:02am Sat 29 Sep 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Lockssmart wrote:
Send them to the Isle of Wight. Punishment enough for anyone.
That isn't fair, haven't they got enough criminals there already? Send him to clean the loos at Nottarf Krap.
[quote][p][bold]Lockssmart[/bold] wrote: Send them to the Isle of Wight. Punishment enough for anyone.[/p][/quote]That isn't fair, haven't they got enough criminals there already? Send him to clean the loos at Nottarf Krap. OSPREYSAINT

12:07pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Lockssmart says...

They do make me laugh at Fratton. They're all loyal Pompey fans when they're doing well, but when things go wrong, they leave like rats on a sinking ship.
They do make me laugh at Fratton. They're all loyal Pompey fans when they're doing well, but when things go wrong, they leave like rats on a sinking ship. Lockssmart

12:27pm Sat 29 Sep 12

MGRA says...

Drud addicts who offend should be sent to the Falkands for a year and trained in Mine clearance... there... sorted.
Drud addicts who offend should be sent to the Falkands for a year and trained in Mine clearance... there... sorted. MGRA

12:29pm Sat 29 Sep 12

J.P.M says...

Why is the theft of a charity collection box considered worse than "normal" theft?

Any punishment should be reduced by 85%, because that is the proportion of donation that never actually reaches the front line.

Let's ban all charities, and persuade government and local councils to re-allocate money to the needy causes.

This country does not need conscious-salving boxes as a token gesture of our acknowledgement of need.
Why is the theft of a charity collection box considered worse than "normal" theft? Any punishment should be reduced by 85%, because that is the proportion of donation that never actually reaches the front line. Let's ban all charities, and persuade government and local councils to re-allocate money to the needy causes. This country does not need conscious-salving boxes as a token gesture of our acknowledgement of need. J.P.M

12:49pm Sat 29 Sep 12

MGRA says...

J.P.M wrote:
Why is the theft of a charity collection box considered worse than "normal" theft?

Any punishment should be reduced by 85%, because that is the proportion of donation that never actually reaches the front line.

Let's ban all charities, and persuade government and local councils to re-allocate money to the needy causes.

This country does not need conscious-salving boxes as a token gesture of our acknowledgement of need.
possibly the most ignorant comment ever posted on this site. bravo. why bother with facts when you can post random made up stuff...
[quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: Why is the theft of a charity collection box considered worse than "normal" theft? Any punishment should be reduced by 85%, because that is the proportion of donation that never actually reaches the front line. Let's ban all charities, and persuade government and local councils to re-allocate money to the needy causes. This country does not need conscious-salving boxes as a token gesture of our acknowledgement of need.[/p][/quote]possibly the most ignorant comment ever posted on this site. bravo. why bother with facts when you can post random made up stuff... MGRA

12:52pm Sat 29 Sep 12

J.P.M says...

I assume you are one of the £25K/year "regional organisers" ?
I assume you are one of the £25K/year "regional organisers" ? J.P.M

1:29pm Sat 29 Sep 12

MGRA says...

J.P.M wrote:
I assume you are one of the £25K/year "regional organisers" ?
foolish comment... poorly paid regional organisers are essential. otherwise the money surprisingly does not organise and spend itself you may be surprised to hear. The charity I support "Plan International" will spend 80% of donations directly in the impact area. 20% goes to paid organisers. If you knew anything about charities ( which you clearly don't) then you would realise the jobs they do pay less than half what they could get in equivalent commercial posts...
[quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: I assume you are one of the £25K/year "regional organisers" ?[/p][/quote]foolish comment... poorly paid regional organisers are essential. otherwise the money surprisingly does not organise and spend itself you may be surprised to hear. The charity I support "Plan International" will spend 80% of donations directly in the impact area. 20% goes to paid organisers. If you knew anything about charities ( which you clearly don't) then you would realise the jobs they do pay less than half what they could get in equivalent commercial posts... MGRA

1:32pm Sat 29 Sep 12

J.P.M says...

MGRA wrote:
J.P.M wrote:
I assume you are one of the £25K/year "regional organisers" ?
foolish comment... poorly paid regional organisers are essential. otherwise the money surprisingly does not organise and spend itself you may be surprised to hear. The charity I support "Plan International" will spend 80% of donations directly in the impact area. 20% goes to paid organisers. If you knew anything about charities ( which you clearly don't) then you would realise the jobs they do pay less than half what they could get in equivalent commercial posts...
Do you sell "a red rose for the lady" around pubs, near to closing time?
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: I assume you are one of the £25K/year "regional organisers" ?[/p][/quote]foolish comment... poorly paid regional organisers are essential. otherwise the money surprisingly does not organise and spend itself you may be surprised to hear. The charity I support "Plan International" will spend 80% of donations directly in the impact area. 20% goes to paid organisers. If you knew anything about charities ( which you clearly don't) then you would realise the jobs they do pay less than half what they could get in equivalent commercial posts...[/p][/quote]Do you sell "a red rose for the lady" around pubs, near to closing time? J.P.M

2:27pm Sat 29 Sep 12

J.P.M says...

mack chinnon wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure.

Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.
Dik,do one.
Looks like there are 2 pervs at the school gate - watching each others backs?
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.[/p][/quote]Dik,do one.[/p][/quote]Looks like there are 2 pervs at the school gate - watching each others backs? J.P.M

2:48pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Georgem says...

So what happened about the breached conditional discharge? There's no point handing out conditional discharges, or suspended sentences, if they're never acted on.
So what happened about the breached conditional discharge? There's no point handing out conditional discharges, or suspended sentences, if they're never acted on. Georgem

2:52pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Georgem says...

Billy, I know you're obsessed with me for whatever reason, but this is boring. Get a new act. Maybe killing yourself is the answer.
Billy, I know you're obsessed with me for whatever reason, but this is boring. Get a new act. Maybe killing yourself is the answer. Georgem

3:19pm Sat 29 Sep 12

BillyTheKid says...

Georgem wrote:
Billy, I know you're obsessed with me for whatever reason, but this is boring. Get a new act. Maybe killing yourself is the answer.
Every time you respond in that immature fashion, you are identifying the true level of your credibility and integrity for all to see.

Your "gay abandon" over the last few days - are you planning a new main ID ? The mud you're slinging at me is splashing back on you, old fella, so it might be wise.
[quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: Billy, I know you're obsessed with me for whatever reason, but this is boring. Get a new act. Maybe killing yourself is the answer.[/p][/quote]Every time you respond in that immature fashion, you are identifying the true level of your credibility and integrity for all to see. Your "gay abandon" over the last few days - are you planning a new main ID ? The mud you're slinging at me is splashing back on you, old fella, so it might be wise. BillyTheKid

3:28pm Sat 29 Sep 12

BillyTheKid says...

mack chinnon wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure.

Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.
Dik,do one.
Oh Chinny winny ! Don't be nasty wasty to poor little Dikky Wikky when he's all alone an' no one loves him and he's leaving anyway and....oh.....I don't know !

Whatever you're paying for that Advanced Creative Writing course, Macky Wacky - sorry, I meant Wacky Macky ( Ha-ha ! Wacky Macky ! ) - well...I think you are being robbed !
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.[/p][/quote]Dik,do one.[/p][/quote]Oh Chinny winny ! Don't be nasty wasty to poor little Dikky Wikky when he's all alone an' no one loves him and he's leaving anyway and....oh.....I don't know ! Whatever you're paying for that Advanced Creative Writing course, Macky Wacky - sorry, I meant Wacky Macky ( Ha-ha ! Wacky Macky ! ) - well...I think you are being robbed ! BillyTheKid

3:31pm Sat 29 Sep 12

BillyTheKid says...

Wacky ! You bin sittin there waiting ! What loyalty ! What dedication to duty !
Wacky ! You bin sittin there waiting ! What loyalty ! What dedication to duty ! BillyTheKid

3:43pm Sat 29 Sep 12

BillyTheKid says...

3.43pm already ! Wacky's late !
3.43pm already ! Wacky's late ! BillyTheKid

3:48pm Sat 29 Sep 12

cantthinkofone says...

Detoxing in jail?

Unlikely. Drugs are widely available on the inside.
Detoxing in jail? Unlikely. Drugs are widely available on the inside. cantthinkofone

3:52pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Georgem says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote: Billy, I know you're obsessed with me for whatever reason, but this is boring. Get a new act. Maybe killing yourself is the answer.
Every time you respond in that immature fashion, you are identifying the true level of your credibility and integrity for all to see. Your "gay abandon" over the last few days - are you planning a new main ID ? The mud you're slinging at me is splashing back on you, old fella, so it might be wise.
Immature mud-slinging is all you're worth, Billy. I'm not wasting perfectly good wit on you. You got what you asked for; to be left alone. Wasn't good enough, so you launch a totally unwarranted attack. You used up your last favours, Billy, expect the worst. I predict you'll be playing the 'victim' card within three days, then promising not to post any more, then promising not to incite any more flame wars after that. You're nothing if not a creature if habit, mysteriously-ex teacher who gets sensitive on stories about inappropriate behaviour toward children.
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: Billy, I know you're obsessed with me for whatever reason, but this is boring. Get a new act. Maybe killing yourself is the answer.[/p][/quote]Every time you respond in that immature fashion, you are identifying the true level of your credibility and integrity for all to see. Your "gay abandon" over the last few days - are you planning a new main ID ? The mud you're slinging at me is splashing back on you, old fella, so it might be wise.[/p][/quote]Immature mud-slinging is all you're worth, Billy. I'm not wasting perfectly good wit on you. You got what you asked for; to be left alone. Wasn't good enough, so you launch a totally unwarranted attack. You used up your last favours, Billy, expect the worst. I predict you'll be playing the 'victim' card within three days, then promising not to post any more, then promising not to incite any more flame wars after that. You're nothing if not a creature if habit, mysteriously-ex teacher who gets sensitive on stories about inappropriate behaviour toward children. Georgem

4:20pm Sat 29 Sep 12

freefinker says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure.

Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.
BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12

"There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ?

Someone has to take the initiative, so I will.

I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid.

I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going.

It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved.

For my part the "war" is over."


Yea, sure is I see.
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12 "There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ? Someone has to take the initiative, so I will. I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid. I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going. It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved. For my part the "war" is over." Yea, sure is I see. freefinker

4:26pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Georgem says...

freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure.

Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.
BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12

"There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ?

Someone has to take the initiative, so I will.

I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid.

I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going.

It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved.

For my part the "war" is over."


Yea, sure is I see.
I suspect he got angry after several of his attempts at sycophancy went un-acknowledged.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12 "There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ? Someone has to take the initiative, so I will. I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid. I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going. It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved. For my part the "war" is over." Yea, sure is I see.[/p][/quote]I suspect he got angry after several of his attempts at sycophancy went un-acknowledged. Georgem

4:35pm Sat 29 Sep 12

MGRA says...

J.P.M wrote:
MGRA wrote:
J.P.M wrote:
I assume you are one of the £25K/year "regional organisers" ?
foolish comment... poorly paid regional organisers are essential. otherwise the money surprisingly does not organise and spend itself you may be surprised to hear. The charity I support "Plan International" will spend 80% of donations directly in the impact area. 20% goes to paid organisers. If you knew anything about charities ( which you clearly don't) then you would realise the jobs they do pay less than half what they could get in equivalent commercial posts...
Do you sell "a red rose for the lady" around pubs, near to closing time?
Do you ever post anything knowing what you are talking about ? Or do you settle for made up stuff ?
[quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: I assume you are one of the £25K/year "regional organisers" ?[/p][/quote]foolish comment... poorly paid regional organisers are essential. otherwise the money surprisingly does not organise and spend itself you may be surprised to hear. The charity I support "Plan International" will spend 80% of donations directly in the impact area. 20% goes to paid organisers. If you knew anything about charities ( which you clearly don't) then you would realise the jobs they do pay less than half what they could get in equivalent commercial posts...[/p][/quote]Do you sell "a red rose for the lady" around pubs, near to closing time?[/p][/quote]Do you ever post anything knowing what you are talking about ? Or do you settle for made up stuff ? MGRA

5:00pm Sat 29 Sep 12

BillyTheKid says...

freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure.

Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.
BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12

"There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ?

Someone has to take the initiative, so I will.

I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid.

I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going.

It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved.

For my part the "war" is over."


Yea, sure is I see.
And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.

You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12 "There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ? Someone has to take the initiative, so I will. I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid. I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going. It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved. For my part the "war" is over." Yea, sure is I see.[/p][/quote]And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now. You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot. BillyTheKid

5:18pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Georgem says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.
BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12 "There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ? Someone has to take the initiative, so I will. I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid. I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going. It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved. For my part the "war" is over." Yea, sure is I see.
And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now. You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.
Treaty? Agreement? When? YOU said you would be ignoring MY posts from then on. I never made any reciprocal statement. Look it up in your precious archives. You lost all your snivelling-victim-co
mplex privileges a long time ago, by the way. You're actively inviting abuse, expect to receive it.
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12 "There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ? Someone has to take the initiative, so I will. I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid. I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going. It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved. For my part the "war" is over." Yea, sure is I see.[/p][/quote]And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now. You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.[/p][/quote]Treaty? Agreement? When? YOU said you would be ignoring MY posts from then on. I never made any reciprocal statement. Look it up in your precious archives. You lost all your snivelling-victim-co mplex privileges a long time ago, by the way. You're actively inviting abuse, expect to receive it. Georgem

5:20pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Georgem says...

Jesus, what a loser. Repeatedly start arguments, get arse thoroughly handed to, whine about being bullied. Still, at least YET ANOTHER thread is all about this pathetic turd.
Jesus, what a loser. Repeatedly start arguments, get ar[bold][/bold]se thoroughly handed to, whine about being bullied. Still, at least YET ANOTHER thread is all about this pathetic turd. Georgem

5:26pm Sat 29 Sep 12

cantthinkofone says...

FFS. Will you all just shut up please?
FFS. Will you all just shut up please? cantthinkofone

5:50pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Georgem says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
FFS. Will you all just shut up please?
Yep. Apologies.
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: FFS. Will you all just shut up please?[/p][/quote]Yep. Apologies. Georgem

6:12pm Sat 29 Sep 12

freefinker says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure.

Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.
BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12

"There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ?

Someone has to take the initiative, so I will.

I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid.

I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going.

It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved.

For my part the "war" is over."


Yea, sure is I see.
And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.

You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.
BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: -
“You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.”

Now, it’s: -
“Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.”

Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce.

Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you.

So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you.

Then there’s this: -
BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12
“By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.”

Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you.

If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns.

You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12 "There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ? Someone has to take the initiative, so I will. I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid. I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going. It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved. For my part the "war" is over." Yea, sure is I see.[/p][/quote]And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now. You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: - “You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.” Now, it’s: - “Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.” Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce. Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you. So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you. Then there’s this: - BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12 “By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.” Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you. If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns. You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site. freefinker

6:28pm Sat 29 Sep 12

BillyTheKid says...

Georgem wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote: Billy, I know you're obsessed with me for whatever reason, but this is boring. Get a new act. Maybe killing yourself is the answer.
Every time you respond in that immature fashion, you are identifying the true level of your credibility and integrity for all to see. Your "gay abandon" over the last few days - are you planning a new main ID ? The mud you're slinging at me is splashing back on you, old fella, so it might be wise.
Immature mud-slinging is all you're worth, Billy. I'm not wasting perfectly good wit on you. You got what you asked for; to be left alone. Wasn't good enough, so you launch a totally unwarranted attack. You used up your last favours, Billy, expect the worst. I predict you'll be playing the 'victim' card within three days, then promising not to post any more, then promising not to incite any more flame wars after that. You're nothing if not a creature if habit, mysteriously-ex teacher who gets sensitive on stories about inappropriate behaviour toward children.
1. Billions of people the world over think that inappropriate behaviour towards children is a sensitive issue. Only you and your associates here seem to think it is something to joke about.

2. The true level of your integrity is coming out now as you resort to offensive language and incoherent blathering.

3. Your credibility is in shreds, and a few of the other posters have begun to realise what a fake you are.

4. I have tried to enjoy a presence on this site. You and your troll friends don't like it because I can write more intelligent, perceptive, imaginative and valuable comments than you, and so you have done your best to discredit me and drive me away.

5. Taking you on and showing you up for the fake you are has cost me my credibility here as Billy The Kid. Although I was offered the opportunity of a new ID, I won't be exploring that any further. Apart from you and the other trolls, I also dislike the "post it and go" nature of the site. Few people take the trouble to discuss anything in depth.

6. One thing is certain, George, it will never be the same here for you again, whether the site team do anything about you or not. And you only have yourself to blame. You could have been friendly, welcoming, helpful, but you chose to make an enemy of me.

7. As I keep trying to get through to your thick head, I will go on posting for a few more hours if I feel like it. But my account closes on Monday at the latest, so I'll do as I please irrespective of any "assertions" I may have made in the past.
[quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: Billy, I know you're obsessed with me for whatever reason, but this is boring. Get a new act. Maybe killing yourself is the answer.[/p][/quote]Every time you respond in that immature fashion, you are identifying the true level of your credibility and integrity for all to see. Your "gay abandon" over the last few days - are you planning a new main ID ? The mud you're slinging at me is splashing back on you, old fella, so it might be wise.[/p][/quote]Immature mud-slinging is all you're worth, Billy. I'm not wasting perfectly good wit on you. You got what you asked for; to be left alone. Wasn't good enough, so you launch a totally unwarranted attack. You used up your last favours, Billy, expect the worst. I predict you'll be playing the 'victim' card within three days, then promising not to post any more, then promising not to incite any more flame wars after that. You're nothing if not a creature if habit, mysteriously-ex teacher who gets sensitive on stories about inappropriate behaviour toward children.[/p][/quote]1. Billions of people the world over think that inappropriate behaviour towards children is a sensitive issue. Only you and your associates here seem to think it is something to joke about. 2. The true level of your integrity is coming out now as you resort to offensive language and incoherent blathering. 3. Your credibility is in shreds, and a few of the other posters have begun to realise what a fake you are. 4. I have tried to enjoy a presence on this site. You and your troll friends don't like it because I can write more intelligent, perceptive, imaginative and valuable comments than you, and so you have done your best to discredit me and drive me away. 5. Taking you on and showing you up for the fake you are has cost me my credibility here as Billy The Kid. Although I was offered the opportunity of a new ID, I won't be exploring that any further. Apart from you and the other trolls, I also dislike the "post it and go" nature of the site. Few people take the trouble to discuss anything in depth. 6. One thing is certain, George, it will never be the same here for you again, whether the site team do anything about you or not. And you only have yourself to blame. You could have been friendly, welcoming, helpful, but you chose to make an enemy of me. 7. As I keep trying to get through to your thick head, I will go on posting for a few more hours if I feel like it. But my account closes on Monday at the latest, so I'll do as I please irrespective of any "assertions" I may have made in the past. BillyTheKid

6:35pm Sat 29 Sep 12

freefinker says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote: Billy, I know you're obsessed with me for whatever reason, but this is boring. Get a new act. Maybe killing yourself is the answer.
Every time you respond in that immature fashion, you are identifying the true level of your credibility and integrity for all to see. Your "gay abandon" over the last few days - are you planning a new main ID ? The mud you're slinging at me is splashing back on you, old fella, so it might be wise.
Immature mud-slinging is all you're worth, Billy. I'm not wasting perfectly good wit on you. You got what you asked for; to be left alone. Wasn't good enough, so you launch a totally unwarranted attack. You used up your last favours, Billy, expect the worst. I predict you'll be playing the 'victim' card within three days, then promising not to post any more, then promising not to incite any more flame wars after that. You're nothing if not a creature if habit, mysteriously-ex teacher who gets sensitive on stories about inappropriate behaviour toward children.
1. Billions of people the world over think that inappropriate behaviour towards children is a sensitive issue. Only you and your associates here seem to think it is something to joke about.

2. The true level of your integrity is coming out now as you resort to offensive language and incoherent blathering.

3. Your credibility is in shreds, and a few of the other posters have begun to realise what a fake you are.

4. I have tried to enjoy a presence on this site. You and your troll friends don't like it because I can write more intelligent, perceptive, imaginative and valuable comments than you, and so you have done your best to discredit me and drive me away.

5. Taking you on and showing you up for the fake you are has cost me my credibility here as Billy The Kid. Although I was offered the opportunity of a new ID, I won't be exploring that any further. Apart from you and the other trolls, I also dislike the "post it and go" nature of the site. Few people take the trouble to discuss anything in depth.

6. One thing is certain, George, it will never be the same here for you again, whether the site team do anything about you or not. And you only have yourself to blame. You could have been friendly, welcoming, helpful, but you chose to make an enemy of me.

7. As I keep trying to get through to your thick head, I will go on posting for a few more hours if I feel like it. But my account closes on Monday at the latest, so I'll do as I please irrespective of any "assertions" I may have made in the past.
re 4 above: -

BillyTheKid says,1:54pm Sat 29 Sep 12
"Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure.

Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.
"

Yes, I see - "I can write more intelligent, perceptive, imaginative and valuable comments than you"

Hum!
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: Billy, I know you're obsessed with me for whatever reason, but this is boring. Get a new act. Maybe killing yourself is the answer.[/p][/quote]Every time you respond in that immature fashion, you are identifying the true level of your credibility and integrity for all to see. Your "gay abandon" over the last few days - are you planning a new main ID ? The mud you're slinging at me is splashing back on you, old fella, so it might be wise.[/p][/quote]Immature mud-slinging is all you're worth, Billy. I'm not wasting perfectly good wit on you. You got what you asked for; to be left alone. Wasn't good enough, so you launch a totally unwarranted attack. You used up your last favours, Billy, expect the worst. I predict you'll be playing the 'victim' card within three days, then promising not to post any more, then promising not to incite any more flame wars after that. You're nothing if not a creature if habit, mysteriously-ex teacher who gets sensitive on stories about inappropriate behaviour toward children.[/p][/quote]1. Billions of people the world over think that inappropriate behaviour towards children is a sensitive issue. Only you and your associates here seem to think it is something to joke about. 2. The true level of your integrity is coming out now as you resort to offensive language and incoherent blathering. 3. Your credibility is in shreds, and a few of the other posters have begun to realise what a fake you are. 4. I have tried to enjoy a presence on this site. You and your troll friends don't like it because I can write more intelligent, perceptive, imaginative and valuable comments than you, and so you have done your best to discredit me and drive me away. 5. Taking you on and showing you up for the fake you are has cost me my credibility here as Billy The Kid. Although I was offered the opportunity of a new ID, I won't be exploring that any further. Apart from you and the other trolls, I also dislike the "post it and go" nature of the site. Few people take the trouble to discuss anything in depth. 6. One thing is certain, George, it will never be the same here for you again, whether the site team do anything about you or not. And you only have yourself to blame. You could have been friendly, welcoming, helpful, but you chose to make an enemy of me. 7. As I keep trying to get through to your thick head, I will go on posting for a few more hours if I feel like it. But my account closes on Monday at the latest, so I'll do as I please irrespective of any "assertions" I may have made in the past.[/p][/quote]re 4 above: - BillyTheKid says,1:54pm Sat 29 Sep 12 "Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly. " Yes, I see - "I can write more intelligent, perceptive, imaginative and valuable comments than you" Hum! freefinker

6:37pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Echo Awards says...

Congratulations, BillyTheKid, you have won this weeks "Greatest Unwarranted Self-Importance" Award!
Congratulations, BillyTheKid, you have won this weeks "Greatest Unwarranted Self-Importance" Award! Echo Awards

6:42pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Georgem says...

Billy, you decided, completely out of the blue, to start this latest attack, several weeks after we appeared to reach an agreement. We had even exchanged pleasant posts. You're a complete clown. Hurry up and go away, so us real people can get back to discussing stories, and not your endless tirades about stuff that mean nothing to anybody else.

Pathetic.
Billy, you decided, completely out of the blue, to start this latest attack, several weeks after we appeared to reach an agreement. We had even exchanged pleasant posts. You're a complete clown. Hurry up and go away, so us real people can get back to discussing stories, and not your endless tirades about stuff that mean nothing to anybody else. Pathetic. Georgem

6:43pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Georgem says...

Right. The end. This moron has caused enough trouble. Sorry again for this disruption from our resident attention-starved creepy simpleton, Billy The Kid.
Right. The end. This moron has caused enough trouble. Sorry again for this disruption from our resident attention-starved creepy simpleton, Billy The Kid. Georgem

6:55pm Sat 29 Sep 12

freefinker says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure.

Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.
BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12

"There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ?

Someone has to take the initiative, so I will.

I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid.

I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going.

It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved.

For my part the "war" is over."


Yea, sure is I see.
And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.

You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.
BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: -
“You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.”

Now, it’s: -
“Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.”

Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce.

Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you.

So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you.

Then there’s this: -
BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12
“By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.”

Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you.

If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns.

You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.
You sad character.

To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue.

You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker.

It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website.

How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit !

Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.
.. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations.

I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings.

Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12 "There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ? Someone has to take the initiative, so I will. I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid. I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going. It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved. For my part the "war" is over." Yea, sure is I see.[/p][/quote]And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now. You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: - “You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.” Now, it’s: - “Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.” Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce. Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you. So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you. Then there’s this: - BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12 “By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.” Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you. If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns. You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.[/p][/quote]You sad character. To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue. You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker. It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website. How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit ! Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.[/p][/quote].. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations. I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings. Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’. freefinker

7:33pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Georgem says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
If people could be done for libel on this forum, Georgem would be bankrupt and doing community service for the rest of his life for the stuff he's said about me.
Such as?
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: If people could be done for libel on this forum, Georgem would be bankrupt and doing community service for the rest of his life for the stuff he's said about me.[/p][/quote]Such as? Georgem

8:56pm Sat 29 Sep 12

BillyTheKid says...

freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure.

Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.
BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12

"There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ?

Someone has to take the initiative, so I will.

I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid.

I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going.

It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved.

For my part the "war" is over."


Yea, sure is I see.
And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.

You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.
BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: -
“You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.”

Now, it’s: -
“Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.”

Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce.

Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you.

So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you.

Then there’s this: -
BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12
“By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.”

Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you.

If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns.

You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.
You sad character.

To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue.

You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker.

It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website.

How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit !

Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.
.. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations.

I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings.

Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.
It'll take me a good hour to go through the threads I have archived to find the specific bits that relate to what you are talking about, cut and paste it, and display it here. Why would I do that ? It's for me to show Echo admin if I choose to. I'm not stupid, and you don't matter.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12 "There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ? Someone has to take the initiative, so I will. I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid. I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going. It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved. For my part the "war" is over." Yea, sure is I see.[/p][/quote]And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now. You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: - “You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.” Now, it’s: - “Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.” Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce. Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you. So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you. Then there’s this: - BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12 “By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.” Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you. If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns. You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.[/p][/quote]You sad character. To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue. You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker. It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website. How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit ! Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.[/p][/quote].. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations. I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings. Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.[/p][/quote]It'll take me a good hour to go through the threads I have archived to find the specific bits that relate to what you are talking about, cut and paste it, and display it here. Why would I do that ? It's for me to show Echo admin if I choose to. I'm not stupid, and you don't matter. BillyTheKid

9:31pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Shoong says...

chunky_lover wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
2 years hard labour would have been more appropriate.Work them so hard they won't have time to take drugs. They will be out in 6 weeks to steal again.
Agree, send these scum to the frontline.
How on earth is a drug addict going to make a good soldier? Of course, your hoping he'll be shot or have his legs blown off?

What you actually mean is 'shoot him' but don't want to appear uncivilised.

.
[quote][p][bold]chunky_lover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: 2 years hard labour would have been more appropriate.Work them so hard they won't have time to take drugs. They will be out in 6 weeks to steal again.[/p][/quote]Agree, send these scum to the frontline.[/p][/quote]How on earth is a drug addict going to make a good soldier? Of course, your hoping he'll be shot or have his legs blown off? What you actually mean is 'shoot him' but don't want to appear uncivilised. . Shoong

9:35pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Shoong says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure.

Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.
BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12

"There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ?

Someone has to take the initiative, so I will.

I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid.

I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going.

It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved.

For my part the "war" is over."


Yea, sure is I see.
And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.

You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.
BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: -
“You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.”

Now, it’s: -
“Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.”

Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce.

Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you.

So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you.

Then there’s this: -
BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12
“By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.”

Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you.

If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns.

You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.
You sad character.

To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue.

You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker.

It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website.

How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit !

Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.
.. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations.

I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings.

Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.
It'll take me a good hour to go through the threads I have archived to find the specific bits that relate to what you are talking about, cut and paste it, and display it here. Why would I do that ? It's for me to show Echo admin if I choose to. I'm not stupid, and you don't matter.
Your 'archiving threads' now?

Call this number: 08457 90 90 90

Someone will be there for you.
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12 "There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ? Someone has to take the initiative, so I will. I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid. I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going. It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved. For my part the "war" is over." Yea, sure is I see.[/p][/quote]And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now. You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: - “You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.” Now, it’s: - “Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.” Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce. Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you. So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you. Then there’s this: - BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12 “By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.” Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you. If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns. You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.[/p][/quote]You sad character. To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue. You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker. It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website. How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit ! Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.[/p][/quote].. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations. I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings. Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.[/p][/quote]It'll take me a good hour to go through the threads I have archived to find the specific bits that relate to what you are talking about, cut and paste it, and display it here. Why would I do that ? It's for me to show Echo admin if I choose to. I'm not stupid, and you don't matter.[/p][/quote]Your 'archiving threads' now? Call this number: 08457 90 90 90 Someone will be there for you. Shoong

10:11pm Sat 29 Sep 12

BillyTheKid says...

Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure.

Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.
BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12

"There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ?

Someone has to take the initiative, so I will.

I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid.

I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going.

It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved.

For my part the "war" is over."


Yea, sure is I see.
And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.

You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.
BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: -
“You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.”

Now, it’s: -
“Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.”

Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce.

Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you.

So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you.

Then there’s this: -
BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12
“By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.”

Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you.

If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns.

You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.
You sad character.

To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue.

You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker.

It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website.

How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit !

Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.
.. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations.

I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings.

Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.
It'll take me a good hour to go through the threads I have archived to find the specific bits that relate to what you are talking about, cut and paste it, and display it here. Why would I do that ? It's for me to show Echo admin if I choose to. I'm not stupid, and you don't matter.
Your 'archiving threads' now?

Call this number: 08457 90 90 90

Someone will be there for you.
Now you listen to me, Doctor Shoong.

I post a comment. Georgem makes some snide remark. I rebuke him. He and his friends have a go, and I fight back. That has been the pattern for many, many months.

According to Dan Kerins, people who read these threads don't read them all through. They read the story, a couple of comments then go to the end to post their comment. Invariably they come across Georgem and his gang bullying me, and assume that they are the "goodies" fighting a "baddie". So they complain. Kerins thought we were all as bad as one another. I pointed out that Georgem is always the instigator. Kerins said the admin team haven't got time to go through whole threads, so I offered to archive threads where Georgem and his cronies get up to their usual tricks. So I now have quite a few examples of what he does.

No, Shoong, you haven't got a breakdown in the offing with me. Just covering my back, is all I'm doing.

I'll assume you mean well, and thank you for your concern. But I am obviously suspicious of you because you're always here when Georgem is here, and you have not noticed that he always starts the trouble. I don't need to prove what is already there in black and white. Read it for yourself. It often goes like this : I'll make some comment about the story, and a then Georgem will say something like "Take no notice of Billy, he is a troll / seeking attention / is an idiot". Now I don't know about you, Shoongy, old stick, but that looks pretty clear to me who starts the trouble. If you can't see that. maybe YOU should call that number !
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12 "There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ? Someone has to take the initiative, so I will. I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid. I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going. It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved. For my part the "war" is over." Yea, sure is I see.[/p][/quote]And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now. You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: - “You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.” Now, it’s: - “Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.” Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce. Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you. So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you. Then there’s this: - BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12 “By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.” Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you. If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns. You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.[/p][/quote]You sad character. To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue. You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker. It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website. How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit ! Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.[/p][/quote].. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations. I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings. Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.[/p][/quote]It'll take me a good hour to go through the threads I have archived to find the specific bits that relate to what you are talking about, cut and paste it, and display it here. Why would I do that ? It's for me to show Echo admin if I choose to. I'm not stupid, and you don't matter.[/p][/quote]Your 'archiving threads' now? Call this number: 08457 90 90 90 Someone will be there for you.[/p][/quote]Now you listen to me, Doctor Shoong. I post a comment. Georgem makes some snide remark. I rebuke him. He and his friends have a go, and I fight back. That has been the pattern for many, many months. According to Dan Kerins, people who read these threads don't read them all through. They read the story, a couple of comments then go to the end to post their comment. Invariably they come across Georgem and his gang bullying me, and assume that they are the "goodies" fighting a "baddie". So they complain. Kerins thought we were all as bad as one another. I pointed out that Georgem is always the instigator. Kerins said the admin team haven't got time to go through whole threads, so I offered to archive threads where Georgem and his cronies get up to their usual tricks. So I now have quite a few examples of what he does. No, Shoong, you haven't got a breakdown in the offing with me. Just covering my back, is all I'm doing. I'll assume you mean well, and thank you for your concern. But I am obviously suspicious of you because you're always here when Georgem is here, and you have not noticed that he always starts the trouble. I don't need to prove what is already there in black and white. Read it for yourself. It often goes like this : I'll make some comment about the story, and a then Georgem will say something like "Take no notice of Billy, he is a troll / seeking attention / is an idiot". Now I don't know about you, Shoongy, old stick, but that looks pretty clear to me who starts the trouble. If you can't see that. maybe YOU should call that number ! BillyTheKid

11:19pm Sat 29 Sep 12

dolomiteman says...

Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article.
You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.
Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article. You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long. dolomiteman

11:48pm Sat 29 Sep 12

BillyTheKid says...

dolomiteman wrote:
Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article.
You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.
We have. This is it.

Now say something interesting that Georgem can argue with.
[quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article. You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.[/p][/quote]We have. This is it. Now say something interesting that Georgem can argue with. BillyTheKid

12:28am Sun 30 Sep 12

freefinker says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure.

Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.
BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12

"There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ?

Someone has to take the initiative, so I will.

I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid.

I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going.

It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved.

For my part the "war" is over."


Yea, sure is I see.
And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.

You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.
BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: -
“You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.”

Now, it’s: -
“Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.”

Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce.

Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you.

So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you.

Then there’s this: -
BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12
“By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.”

Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you.

If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns.

You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.
You sad character.

To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue.

You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker.

It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website.

How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit !

Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.
.. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations.

I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings.

Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.
It'll take me a good hour to go through the threads I have archived to find the specific bits that relate to what you are talking about, cut and paste it, and display it here. Why would I do that ? It's for me to show Echo admin if I choose to. I'm not stupid, and you don't matter.
.. well they are not archived then, are they?

All you have is a list of URL's, I presume, with no reference to who said what about you? If you have truly archived them properly you will be able to show the posts where you say I have insulted you.

That you refuse to do so means I can therefore assume your so called archives are utterly useless for, as you say, “Kerins said the admin team haven't got time to go through whole threads, so I offered to archive threads where Georgem and his cronies get up to their usual tricks. So I now have quite a few examples of what he does.”

So while you are continually rude to me, “sad character” and “freestinker” being just the latest, you can’t point to even one single example of rudeness flowing in the other direction for the very simple reason there has been absolutely none.

I have deliberately refrained from insulting you ever since you emerged on this site a few months ago. You now need to acknowledge this and offer a sincere apology, unlike your previous attempt.
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12 "There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ? Someone has to take the initiative, so I will. I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid. I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going. It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved. For my part the "war" is over." Yea, sure is I see.[/p][/quote]And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now. You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: - “You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.” Now, it’s: - “Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.” Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce. Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you. So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you. Then there’s this: - BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12 “By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.” Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you. If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns. You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.[/p][/quote]You sad character. To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue. You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker. It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website. How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit ! Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.[/p][/quote].. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations. I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings. Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.[/p][/quote]It'll take me a good hour to go through the threads I have archived to find the specific bits that relate to what you are talking about, cut and paste it, and display it here. Why would I do that ? It's for me to show Echo admin if I choose to. I'm not stupid, and you don't matter.[/p][/quote].. well they are not archived then, are they? All you have is a list of URL's, I presume, with no reference to who said what about you? If you have truly archived them properly you will be able to show the posts where you say I have insulted you. That you refuse to do so means I can therefore assume your so called archives are utterly useless for, as you say, “Kerins said the admin team haven't got time to go through whole threads, so I offered to archive threads where Georgem and his cronies get up to their usual tricks. So I now have quite a few examples of what he does.” So while you are continually rude to me, “sad character” and “freestinker” being just the latest, you can’t point to even one single example of rudeness flowing in the other direction for the very simple reason there has been absolutely none. I have deliberately refrained from insulting you ever since you emerged on this site a few months ago. You now need to acknowledge this and offer a sincere apology, unlike your previous attempt. freefinker

12:49am Sun 30 Sep 12

freefinker says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure.

Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.
BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12

"There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ?

Someone has to take the initiative, so I will.

I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid.

I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going.

It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved.

For my part the "war" is over."


Yea, sure is I see.
And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.

You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.
BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: -
“You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.”

Now, it’s: -
“Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.”

Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce.

Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you.

So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you.

Then there’s this: -
BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12
“By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.”

Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you.

If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns.

You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.
You sad character.

To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue.

You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker.

It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website.

How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit !

Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.
.. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations.

I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings.

Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.
It'll take me a good hour to go through the threads I have archived to find the specific bits that relate to what you are talking about, cut and paste it, and display it here. Why would I do that ? It's for me to show Echo admin if I choose to. I'm not stupid, and you don't matter.
Your 'archiving threads' now?

Call this number: 08457 90 90 90

Someone will be there for you.
Now you listen to me, Doctor Shoong.

I post a comment. Georgem makes some snide remark. I rebuke him. He and his friends have a go, and I fight back. That has been the pattern for many, many months.

According to Dan Kerins, people who read these threads don't read them all through. They read the story, a couple of comments then go to the end to post their comment. Invariably they come across Georgem and his gang bullying me, and assume that they are the "goodies" fighting a "baddie". So they complain. Kerins thought we were all as bad as one another. I pointed out that Georgem is always the instigator. Kerins said the admin team haven't got time to go through whole threads, so I offered to archive threads where Georgem and his cronies get up to their usual tricks. So I now have quite a few examples of what he does.

No, Shoong, you haven't got a breakdown in the offing with me. Just covering my back, is all I'm doing.

I'll assume you mean well, and thank you for your concern. But I am obviously suspicious of you because you're always here when Georgem is here, and you have not noticed that he always starts the trouble. I don't need to prove what is already there in black and white. Read it for yourself. It often goes like this : I'll make some comment about the story, and a then Georgem will say something like "Take no notice of Billy, he is a troll / seeking attention / is an idiot". Now I don't know about you, Shoongy, old stick, but that looks pretty clear to me who starts the trouble. If you can't see that. maybe YOU should call that number !
.. oh I see.

So when your very first contribution to this thread was: -

“Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure.
Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.”

.. it was “I'll make some comment about the story” and (have) “you have not noticed that he (Georgem) always starts the trouble. I don't need to prove what is already there in black and white. Read it for yourself.”

Yes that is crystal clear – in your own words.
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12 "There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ? Someone has to take the initiative, so I will. I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid. I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going. It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved. For my part the "war" is over." Yea, sure is I see.[/p][/quote]And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now. You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: - “You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.” Now, it’s: - “Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.” Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce. Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you. So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you. Then there’s this: - BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12 “By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.” Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you. If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns. You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.[/p][/quote]You sad character. To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue. You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker. It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website. How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit ! Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.[/p][/quote].. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations. I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings. Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.[/p][/quote]It'll take me a good hour to go through the threads I have archived to find the specific bits that relate to what you are talking about, cut and paste it, and display it here. Why would I do that ? It's for me to show Echo admin if I choose to. I'm not stupid, and you don't matter.[/p][/quote]Your 'archiving threads' now? Call this number: 08457 90 90 90 Someone will be there for you.[/p][/quote]Now you listen to me, Doctor Shoong. I post a comment. Georgem makes some snide remark. I rebuke him. He and his friends have a go, and I fight back. That has been the pattern for many, many months. According to Dan Kerins, people who read these threads don't read them all through. They read the story, a couple of comments then go to the end to post their comment. Invariably they come across Georgem and his gang bullying me, and assume that they are the "goodies" fighting a "baddie". So they complain. Kerins thought we were all as bad as one another. I pointed out that Georgem is always the instigator. Kerins said the admin team haven't got time to go through whole threads, so I offered to archive threads where Georgem and his cronies get up to their usual tricks. So I now have quite a few examples of what he does. No, Shoong, you haven't got a breakdown in the offing with me. Just covering my back, is all I'm doing. I'll assume you mean well, and thank you for your concern. But I am obviously suspicious of you because you're always here when Georgem is here, and you have not noticed that he always starts the trouble. I don't need to prove what is already there in black and white. Read it for yourself. It often goes like this : I'll make some comment about the story, and a then Georgem will say something like "Take no notice of Billy, he is a troll / seeking attention / is an idiot". Now I don't know about you, Shoongy, old stick, but that looks pretty clear to me who starts the trouble. If you can't see that. maybe YOU should call that number ![/p][/quote].. oh I see. So when your very first contribution to this thread was: - “Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.” .. it was “I'll make some comment about the story” and (have) “you have not noticed that he (Georgem) always starts the trouble. I don't need to prove what is already there in black and white. Read it for yourself.” Yes that is crystal clear – in your own words. freefinker

1:11am Sun 30 Sep 12

BillyTheKid says...

freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure.

Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.
BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12

"There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ?

Someone has to take the initiative, so I will.

I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid.

I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going.

It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved.

For my part the "war" is over."


Yea, sure is I see.
And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.

You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.
BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: -
“You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.”

Now, it’s: -
“Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.”

Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce.

Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you.

So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you.

Then there’s this: -
BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12
“By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.”

Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you.

If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns.

You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.
You sad character.

To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue.

You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker.

It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website.

How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit !

Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.
.. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations.

I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings.

Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.
It'll take me a good hour to go through the threads I have archived to find the specific bits that relate to what you are talking about, cut and paste it, and display it here. Why would I do that ? It's for me to show Echo admin if I choose to. I'm not stupid, and you don't matter.
.. well they are not archived then, are they?

All you have is a list of URL's, I presume, with no reference to who said what about you? If you have truly archived them properly you will be able to show the posts where you say I have insulted you.

That you refuse to do so means I can therefore assume your so called archives are utterly useless for, as you say, “Kerins said the admin team haven't got time to go through whole threads, so I offered to archive threads where Georgem and his cronies get up to their usual tricks. So I now have quite a few examples of what he does.”

So while you are continually rude to me, “sad character” and “freestinker” being just the latest, you can’t point to even one single example of rudeness flowing in the other direction for the very simple reason there has been absolutely none.

I have deliberately refrained from insulting you ever since you emerged on this site a few months ago. You now need to acknowledge this and offer a sincere apology, unlike your previous attempt.
I start at the top, I highlight the entire thread, copy, then paste into word. There are about 10 or 20 docs. Archiving the cra p that has appeared on this site is not a priority, but, in my view a necessity if anyone of significance wants to see it. You are part of the problem because you have fanned the flames ignited by Georgem.

If I didn't have the evidence, the simplest thing would be to apologise and get you off my back. But I do have the evidence, I can prove you were there and part of the bullying, so I don't have to apologise.

Right, Mr freefinker ! Are you going to tell me straight to my computer screen that I have been totally responsible for all the trouble here and that you and Georgem are innocent victims ? Because if you are, you need to go back over all the threads and read them through.

Not stop wasting my time. If, and I mean if, I have some spare time, I will locate the particular incident that involves you. But i'm afraid you and this bear pit and not as important as my relative with dementia, or my real world life.

If you weren't so arrogant you'd realise I'm not the idiot that Georgem would have you all believe I am. Read the things Georgem writes - it's shallow, empty-headed cra p ! He has never ventured one single original thought here. He cons everybody, including you. Read mine. You might not agree with what I say, but you can tell there is some integrity there.

So go fink freely about that, and look into things thoroughly before you jump to conclusions.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12 "There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ? Someone has to take the initiative, so I will. I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid. I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going. It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved. For my part the "war" is over." Yea, sure is I see.[/p][/quote]And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now. You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: - “You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.” Now, it’s: - “Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.” Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce. Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you. So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you. Then there’s this: - BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12 “By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.” Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you. If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns. You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.[/p][/quote]You sad character. To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue. You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker. It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website. How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit ! Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.[/p][/quote].. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations. I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings. Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.[/p][/quote]It'll take me a good hour to go through the threads I have archived to find the specific bits that relate to what you are talking about, cut and paste it, and display it here. Why would I do that ? It's for me to show Echo admin if I choose to. I'm not stupid, and you don't matter.[/p][/quote].. well they are not archived then, are they? All you have is a list of URL's, I presume, with no reference to who said what about you? If you have truly archived them properly you will be able to show the posts where you say I have insulted you. That you refuse to do so means I can therefore assume your so called archives are utterly useless for, as you say, “Kerins said the admin team haven't got time to go through whole threads, so I offered to archive threads where Georgem and his cronies get up to their usual tricks. So I now have quite a few examples of what he does.” So while you are continually rude to me, “sad character” and “freestinker” being just the latest, you can’t point to even one single example of rudeness flowing in the other direction for the very simple reason there has been absolutely none. I have deliberately refrained from insulting you ever since you emerged on this site a few months ago. You now need to acknowledge this and offer a sincere apology, unlike your previous attempt.[/p][/quote]I start at the top, I highlight the entire thread, copy, then paste into word. There are about 10 or 20 docs. Archiving the cra p that has appeared on this site is not a priority, but, in my view a necessity if anyone of significance wants to see it. You are part of the problem because you have fanned the flames ignited by Georgem. If I didn't have the evidence, the simplest thing would be to apologise and get you off my back. But I do have the evidence, I can prove you were there and part of the bullying, so I don't have to apologise. Right, Mr freefinker ! Are you going to tell me straight to my computer screen that I have been totally responsible for all the trouble here and that you and Georgem are innocent victims ? Because if you are, you need to go back over all the threads and read them through. Not stop wasting my time. If, and I mean if, I have some spare time, I will locate the particular incident that involves you. But i'm afraid you and this bear pit and not as important as my relative with dementia, or my real world life. If you weren't so arrogant you'd realise I'm not the idiot that Georgem would have you all believe I am. Read the things Georgem writes - it's shallow, empty-headed cra p ! He has never ventured one single original thought here. He cons everybody, including you. Read mine. You might not agree with what I say, but you can tell there is some integrity there. So go fink freely about that, and look into things thoroughly before you jump to conclusions. BillyTheKid

1:24am Sun 30 Sep 12

Ginger_cyclist says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure.

Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.
BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12

"There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ?

Someone has to take the initiative, so I will.

I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid.

I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going.

It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved.

For my part the "war" is over."


Yea, sure is I see.
And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.

You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.
Actually, for it to be a "Treaty" it has to be put in writing and then signed by all parties involved.
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12 "There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ? Someone has to take the initiative, so I will. I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid. I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going. It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved. For my part the "war" is over." Yea, sure is I see.[/p][/quote]And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now. You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.[/p][/quote]Actually, for it to be a "Treaty" it has to be put in writing and then signed by all parties involved. Ginger_cyclist

1:51am Sun 30 Sep 12

Ginger_cyclist says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure.

Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.
BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12

"There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ?

Someone has to take the initiative, so I will.

I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid.

I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going.

It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved.

For my part the "war" is over."


Yea, sure is I see.
And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.

You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.
BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: -
“You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.”

Now, it’s: -
“Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.”

Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce.

Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you.

So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you.

Then there’s this: -
BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12
“By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.”

Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you.

If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns.

You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.
You sad character.

To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue.

You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker.

It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website.

How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit !

Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.
.. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations.

I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings.

Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.
It'll take me a good hour to go through the threads I have archived to find the specific bits that relate to what you are talking about, cut and paste it, and display it here. Why would I do that ? It's for me to show Echo admin if I choose to. I'm not stupid, and you don't matter.
.. well they are not archived then, are they?

All you have is a list of URL's, I presume, with no reference to who said what about you? If you have truly archived them properly you will be able to show the posts where you say I have insulted you.

That you refuse to do so means I can therefore assume your so called archives are utterly useless for, as you say, “Kerins said the admin team haven't got time to go through whole threads, so I offered to archive threads where Georgem and his cronies get up to their usual tricks. So I now have quite a few examples of what he does.”

So while you are continually rude to me, “sad character” and “freestinker” being just the latest, you can’t point to even one single example of rudeness flowing in the other direction for the very simple reason there has been absolutely none.

I have deliberately refrained from insulting you ever since you emerged on this site a few months ago. You now need to acknowledge this and offer a sincere apology, unlike your previous attempt.
I start at the top, I highlight the entire thread, copy, then paste into word. There are about 10 or 20 docs. Archiving the cra p that has appeared on this site is not a priority, but, in my view a necessity if anyone of significance wants to see it. You are part of the problem because you have fanned the flames ignited by Georgem.

If I didn't have the evidence, the simplest thing would be to apologise and get you off my back. But I do have the evidence, I can prove you were there and part of the bullying, so I don't have to apologise.

Right, Mr freefinker ! Are you going to tell me straight to my computer screen that I have been totally responsible for all the trouble here and that you and Georgem are innocent victims ? Because if you are, you need to go back over all the threads and read them through.

Not stop wasting my time. If, and I mean if, I have some spare time, I will locate the particular incident that involves you. But i'm afraid you and this bear pit and not as important as my relative with dementia, or my real world life.

If you weren't so arrogant you'd realise I'm not the idiot that Georgem would have you all believe I am. Read the things Georgem writes - it's shallow, empty-headed cra p ! He has never ventured one single original thought here. He cons everybody, including you. Read mine. You might not agree with what I say, but you can tell there is some integrity there.

So go fink freely about that, and look into things thoroughly before you jump to conclusions.
I found a few threads where you attack first, such as the one about the tree in the cemetery, in fact on that one, you even attacked me but I was bigger than you because I didn't react, go and cry into your mug of tea now that you've been caught out.
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12 "There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ? Someone has to take the initiative, so I will. I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid. I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going. It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved. For my part the "war" is over." Yea, sure is I see.[/p][/quote]And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now. You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: - “You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.” Now, it’s: - “Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.” Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce. Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you. So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you. Then there’s this: - BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12 “By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.” Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you. If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns. You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.[/p][/quote]You sad character. To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue. You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker. It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website. How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit ! Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.[/p][/quote].. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations. I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings. Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.[/p][/quote]It'll take me a good hour to go through the threads I have archived to find the specific bits that relate to what you are talking about, cut and paste it, and display it here. Why would I do that ? It's for me to show Echo admin if I choose to. I'm not stupid, and you don't matter.[/p][/quote].. well they are not archived then, are they? All you have is a list of URL's, I presume, with no reference to who said what about you? If you have truly archived them properly you will be able to show the posts where you say I have insulted you. That you refuse to do so means I can therefore assume your so called archives are utterly useless for, as you say, “Kerins said the admin team haven't got time to go through whole threads, so I offered to archive threads where Georgem and his cronies get up to their usual tricks. So I now have quite a few examples of what he does.” So while you are continually rude to me, “sad character” and “freestinker” being just the latest, you can’t point to even one single example of rudeness flowing in the other direction for the very simple reason there has been absolutely none. I have deliberately refrained from insulting you ever since you emerged on this site a few months ago. You now need to acknowledge this and offer a sincere apology, unlike your previous attempt.[/p][/quote]I start at the top, I highlight the entire thread, copy, then paste into word. There are about 10 or 20 docs. Archiving the cra p that has appeared on this site is not a priority, but, in my view a necessity if anyone of significance wants to see it. You are part of the problem because you have fanned the flames ignited by Georgem. If I didn't have the evidence, the simplest thing would be to apologise and get you off my back. But I do have the evidence, I can prove you were there and part of the bullying, so I don't have to apologise. Right, Mr freefinker ! Are you going to tell me straight to my computer screen that I have been totally responsible for all the trouble here and that you and Georgem are innocent victims ? Because if you are, you need to go back over all the threads and read them through. Not stop wasting my time. If, and I mean if, I have some spare time, I will locate the particular incident that involves you. But i'm afraid you and this bear pit and not as important as my relative with dementia, or my real world life. If you weren't so arrogant you'd realise I'm not the idiot that Georgem would have you all believe I am. Read the things Georgem writes - it's shallow, empty-headed cra p ! He has never ventured one single original thought here. He cons everybody, including you. Read mine. You might not agree with what I say, but you can tell there is some integrity there. So go fink freely about that, and look into things thoroughly before you jump to conclusions.[/p][/quote]I found a few threads where you attack first, such as the one about the tree in the cemetery, in fact on that one, you even attacked me but I was bigger than you because I didn't react, go and cry into your mug of tea now that you've been caught out. Ginger_cyclist

3:45am Sun 30 Sep 12

BillyTheKid says...

I have found a number of threads where you, freethinker, assist Georgem. I can't find the thread where you and he work together deriding me. it's there somewhere.

What a bunch of crazies you all are ! I've always felt that, when the mob closes in for what it thinks might be "the kill", it's too much of a coincidence you all being here at the right time. Sock puppets.

Your bull**** is amusing, and I suppose to a "newbie", like I was some months ago, it might even be worrying. But it isn't the reason I've closed my account. I simply can't get the hang of talking to people with stupid nicknames, mine being one of the daftest ! Mack Chinnon, Freefinker, cantthinkofone, BillyTheKid - it's unreal, it's a fantasy, it's a circus !

Anyway, thanks for the ride - it's been..........intere
sting. You're welcome to your forum - I'm sticking with the real world, with people with proper names, and faces I can see.

I probably got you all worked out completely wrong. You certainly have with me. We'd probably get the shock of our lives if we all suddenly "appeared" in a room ! Except of course those of you that already know each other.

The penny suddenly dropped when one of you said the other day "It doesn't matter. This is an internet backwater." That is right. Nothing matters here. The fact that Wimwom hates Tiggywiggy, and Twitface3743 disagrees with Dogdoo doesn't matter.

You see, I need for things to matter. Things have always mattered in my life, and in the lives of my friends and colleagues. I've never spoken to people the way people talk to each other here.

I'll say goodbye once and for all now, as there really isn't anything left to say. But I certainly won't apologise for anything because some of you have really p*ssed me off at some point. ( If indeed you are a group of people and not the sock puppet creations of some geek like Georgem ! ) But it doesn't matter, does it ? You don't matter, I don't matter.

Internet forums and chat sites ? Yuk !

Now this is going to surprise you : I'm actually 73, and a great-grandmother ! And that's all I'm telling you !
I have found a number of threads where you, freethinker, assist Georgem. I can't find the thread where you and he work together deriding me. it's there somewhere. What a bunch of crazies you all are ! I've always felt that, when the mob closes in for what it thinks might be "the kill", it's too much of a coincidence you all being here at the right time. Sock puppets. Your bull**** is amusing, and I suppose to a "newbie", like I was some months ago, it might even be worrying. But it isn't the reason I've closed my account. I simply can't get the hang of talking to people with stupid nicknames, mine being one of the daftest ! Mack Chinnon, Freefinker, cantthinkofone, BillyTheKid - it's unreal, it's a fantasy, it's a circus ! Anyway, thanks for the ride - it's been..........intere sting. You're welcome to your forum - I'm sticking with the real world, with people with proper names, and faces I can see. I probably got you all worked out completely wrong. You certainly have with me. We'd probably get the shock of our lives if we all suddenly "appeared" in a room ! Except of course those of you that already know each other. The penny suddenly dropped when one of you said the other day "It doesn't matter. This is an internet backwater." That is right. Nothing matters here. The fact that Wimwom hates Tiggywiggy, and Twitface3743 disagrees with Dogdoo doesn't matter. You see, I need for things to matter. Things have always mattered in my life, and in the lives of my friends and colleagues. I've never spoken to people the way people talk to each other here. I'll say goodbye once and for all now, as there really isn't anything left to say. But I certainly won't apologise for anything because some of you have really p*ssed me off at some point. ( If indeed you are a group of people and not the sock puppet creations of some geek like Georgem ! ) But it doesn't matter, does it ? You don't matter, I don't matter. Internet forums and chat sites ? Yuk ! Now this is going to surprise you : I'm actually 73, and a great-grandmother ! And that's all I'm telling you ! BillyTheKid

9:24am Sun 30 Sep 12

freefinker says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
I have found a number of threads where you, freethinker, assist Georgem. I can't find the thread where you and he work together deriding me. it's there somewhere.

What a bunch of crazies you all are ! I've always felt that, when the mob closes in for what it thinks might be "the kill", it's too much of a coincidence you all being here at the right time. Sock puppets.

Your bull**** is amusing, and I suppose to a "newbie", like I was some months ago, it might even be worrying. But it isn't the reason I've closed my account. I simply can't get the hang of talking to people with stupid nicknames, mine being one of the daftest ! Mack Chinnon, Freefinker, cantthinkofone, BillyTheKid - it's unreal, it's a fantasy, it's a circus !

Anyway, thanks for the ride - it's been..........intere

sting. You're welcome to your forum - I'm sticking with the real world, with people with proper names, and faces I can see.

I probably got you all worked out completely wrong. You certainly have with me. We'd probably get the shock of our lives if we all suddenly "appeared" in a room ! Except of course those of you that already know each other.

The penny suddenly dropped when one of you said the other day "It doesn't matter. This is an internet backwater." That is right. Nothing matters here. The fact that Wimwom hates Tiggywiggy, and Twitface3743 disagrees with Dogdoo doesn't matter.

You see, I need for things to matter. Things have always mattered in my life, and in the lives of my friends and colleagues. I've never spoken to people the way people talk to each other here.

I'll say goodbye once and for all now, as there really isn't anything left to say. But I certainly won't apologise for anything because some of you have really p*ssed me off at some point. ( If indeed you are a group of people and not the sock puppet creations of some geek like Georgem ! ) But it doesn't matter, does it ? You don't matter, I don't matter.

Internet forums and chat sites ? Yuk !

Now this is going to surprise you : I'm actually 73, and a great-grandmother ! And that's all I'm telling you !
.. so, all you can say is "I have found a number of threads where you, freethinker, assist Georgem.".

But you still can't find any of my threads where I have even once insulted you.

Right, am I? Apology due.

As for the rest, I'm not interested. And I haven't been interested since you first started on this site.

This site is for discussion of issues - not discussion of BTK.
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: I have found a number of threads where you, freethinker, assist Georgem. I can't find the thread where you and he work together deriding me. it's there somewhere. What a bunch of crazies you all are ! I've always felt that, when the mob closes in for what it thinks might be "the kill", it's too much of a coincidence you all being here at the right time. Sock puppets. Your bull**** is amusing, and I suppose to a "newbie", like I was some months ago, it might even be worrying. But it isn't the reason I've closed my account. I simply can't get the hang of talking to people with stupid nicknames, mine being one of the daftest ! Mack Chinnon, Freefinker, cantthinkofone, BillyTheKid - it's unreal, it's a fantasy, it's a circus ! Anyway, thanks for the ride - it's been..........intere sting. You're welcome to your forum - I'm sticking with the real world, with people with proper names, and faces I can see. I probably got you all worked out completely wrong. You certainly have with me. We'd probably get the shock of our lives if we all suddenly "appeared" in a room ! Except of course those of you that already know each other. The penny suddenly dropped when one of you said the other day "It doesn't matter. This is an internet backwater." That is right. Nothing matters here. The fact that Wimwom hates Tiggywiggy, and Twitface3743 disagrees with Dogdoo doesn't matter. You see, I need for things to matter. Things have always mattered in my life, and in the lives of my friends and colleagues. I've never spoken to people the way people talk to each other here. I'll say goodbye once and for all now, as there really isn't anything left to say. But I certainly won't apologise for anything because some of you have really p*ssed me off at some point. ( If indeed you are a group of people and not the sock puppet creations of some geek like Georgem ! ) But it doesn't matter, does it ? You don't matter, I don't matter. Internet forums and chat sites ? Yuk ! Now this is going to surprise you : I'm actually 73, and a great-grandmother ! And that's all I'm telling you ![/p][/quote].. so, all you can say is "I have found a number of threads where you, freethinker, assist Georgem.". But you still can't find any of my threads where I have even once insulted you. Right, am I? Apology due. As for the rest, I'm not interested. And I haven't been interested since you first started on this site. This site is for discussion of issues - not discussion of BTK. freefinker

10:27am Sun 30 Sep 12

Dr Martin says...

mack chinnon wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.
BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12 "There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ? Someone has to take the initiative, so I will. I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid. I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going. It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved. For my part the "war" is over." Yea, sure is I see.
And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now. You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.
BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: - “You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.” Now, it’s: - “Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.” Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce. Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you. So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you. Then there’s this: - BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12 “By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.” Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you. If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns. You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.
You sad character. To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue. You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker. It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website. How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit ! Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.
.. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations. I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings. Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.
It'll take me a good hour to go through the threads I have archived to find the specific bits that relate to what you are talking about, cut and paste it, and display it here. Why would I do that ? It's for me to show Echo admin if I choose to. I'm not stupid, and you don't matter.
.. well they are not archived then, are they? All you have is a list of URL's, I presume, with no reference to who said what about you? If you have truly archived them properly you will be able to show the posts where you say I have insulted you. That you refuse to do so means I can therefore assume your so called archives are utterly useless for, as you say, “Kerins said the admin team haven't got time to go through whole threads, so I offered to archive threads where Georgem and his cronies get up to their usual tricks. So I now have quite a few examples of what he does.” So while you are continually rude to me, “sad character” and “freestinker” being just the latest, you can’t point to even one single example of rudeness flowing in the other direction for the very simple reason there has been absolutely none. I have deliberately refrained from insulting you ever since you emerged on this site a few months ago. You now need to acknowledge this and offer a sincere apology, unlike your previous attempt.
I start at the top, I highlight the entire thread, copy, then paste into word. There are about 10 or 20 docs. Archiving the cra p that has appeared on this site is not a priority, but, in my view a necessity if anyone of significance wants to see it. You are part of the problem because you have fanned the flames ignited by Georgem. If I didn't have the evidence, the simplest thing would be to apologise and get you off my back. But I do have the evidence, I can prove you were there and part of the bullying, so I don't have to apologise. Right, Mr freefinker ! Are you going to tell me straight to my computer screen that I have been totally responsible for all the trouble here and that you and Georgem are innocent victims ? Because if you are, you need to go back over all the threads and read them through. Not stop wasting my time. If, and I mean if, I have some spare time, I will locate the particular incident that involves you. But i'm afraid you and this bear pit and not as important as my relative with dementia, or my real world life. If you weren't so arrogant you'd realise I'm not the idiot that Georgem would have you all believe I am. Read the things Georgem writes - it's shallow, empty-headed cra p ! He has never ventured one single original thought here. He cons everybody, including you. Read mine. You might not agree with what I say, but you can tell there is some integrity there. So go fink freely about that, and look into things thoroughly before you jump to conclusions.
Dik, do one.
"Dik, do one."


Mack do you ever say anything else?
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12 "There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ? Someone has to take the initiative, so I will. I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid. I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going. It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved. For my part the "war" is over." Yea, sure is I see.[/p][/quote]And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now. You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: - “You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.” Now, it’s: - “Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.” Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce. Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you. So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you. Then there’s this: - BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12 “By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.” Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you. If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns. You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.[/p][/quote]You sad character. To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue. You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker. It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website. How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit ! Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.[/p][/quote].. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations. I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings. Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.[/p][/quote]It'll take me a good hour to go through the threads I have archived to find the specific bits that relate to what you are talking about, cut and paste it, and display it here. Why would I do that ? It's for me to show Echo admin if I choose to. I'm not stupid, and you don't matter.[/p][/quote].. well they are not archived then, are they? All you have is a list of URL's, I presume, with no reference to who said what about you? If you have truly archived them properly you will be able to show the posts where you say I have insulted you. That you refuse to do so means I can therefore assume your so called archives are utterly useless for, as you say, “Kerins said the admin team haven't got time to go through whole threads, so I offered to archive threads where Georgem and his cronies get up to their usual tricks. So I now have quite a few examples of what he does.” So while you are continually rude to me, “sad character” and “freestinker” being just the latest, you can’t point to even one single example of rudeness flowing in the other direction for the very simple reason there has been absolutely none. I have deliberately refrained from insulting you ever since you emerged on this site a few months ago. You now need to acknowledge this and offer a sincere apology, unlike your previous attempt.[/p][/quote]I start at the top, I highlight the entire thread, copy, then paste into word. There are about 10 or 20 docs. Archiving the cra p that has appeared on this site is not a priority, but, in my view a necessity if anyone of significance wants to see it. You are part of the problem because you have fanned the flames ignited by Georgem. If I didn't have the evidence, the simplest thing would be to apologise and get you off my back. But I do have the evidence, I can prove you were there and part of the bullying, so I don't have to apologise. Right, Mr freefinker ! Are you going to tell me straight to my computer screen that I have been totally responsible for all the trouble here and that you and Georgem are innocent victims ? Because if you are, you need to go back over all the threads and read them through. Not stop wasting my time. If, and I mean if, I have some spare time, I will locate the particular incident that involves you. But i'm afraid you and this bear pit and not as important as my relative with dementia, or my real world life. If you weren't so arrogant you'd realise I'm not the idiot that Georgem would have you all believe I am. Read the things Georgem writes - it's shallow, empty-headed cra p ! He has never ventured one single original thought here. He cons everybody, including you. Read mine. You might not agree with what I say, but you can tell there is some integrity there. So go fink freely about that, and look into things thoroughly before you jump to conclusions.[/p][/quote]Dik, do one.[/p][/quote]"Dik, do one." Mack do you ever say anything else? Dr Martin

11:48am Sun 30 Sep 12

Georgem says...

dolomiteman wrote:
Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article.
You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.
I'm sorry this is happening. I have no idea why this BillyTheKid wishes to turn every thread into a discussion of how much he dislikes me. Please use the 'report this post' links on all the comments, and have them removed.
[quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article. You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry this is happening. I have no idea why this BillyTheKid wishes to turn every thread into a discussion of how much he dislikes me. Please use the 'report this post' links on all the comments, and have them removed. Georgem

11:53am Sun 30 Sep 12

Ginger_cyclist says...

Georgem wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article.
You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.
I'm sorry this is happening. I have no idea why this BillyTheKid wishes to turn every thread into a discussion of how much he dislikes me. Please use the 'report this post' links on all the comments, and have them removed.
Don't forget how billy always makes it a discussion about himself as well.
[quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article. You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry this is happening. I have no idea why this BillyTheKid wishes to turn every thread into a discussion of how much he dislikes me. Please use the 'report this post' links on all the comments, and have them removed.[/p][/quote]Don't forget how billy always makes it a discussion about himself as well. Ginger_cyclist

12:00pm Sun 30 Sep 12

dolomiteman says...

I really confused as to why Mack keeps calling people a 'Dik' .
A 'Dik' is an Antelope.
I really confused as to why Mack keeps calling people a 'Dik' . A 'Dik' is an Antelope. dolomiteman

1:59pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Focus3 says...

I'm so embarrassed for all of you lot. It is so boring reading the constant bickering. Can you now get back to debating the local issues like adults please?
I'm so embarrassed for all of you lot. It is so boring reading the constant bickering. Can you now get back to debating the local issues like adults please? Focus3

2:48pm Sun 30 Sep 12

BillyTheKid says...

Georgem wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article.
You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.
I'm sorry this is happening. I have no idea why this BillyTheKid wishes to turn every thread into a discussion of how much he dislikes me. Please use the 'report this post' links on all the comments, and have them removed.
I make a post. You, Georgem, then make an insulting remark about me. I rebuke you. Your "gang" join in. Hey ho, wrecked thread. It's that simple. And guess what ? The site admin people can see it it too ! Just as though your simpering is going to fool anybody with a brain cell !

From these latest posts, it seems like people posting here are beginning to realise that I am not to blame. They can see I'm part of the problem because I always stand up for myself, but not to blame.

Chances are, when Dan sees my "resignation" tomorrow, he'll probably do nothing except wait and watch. See what the hunt does without their fox !

Well if you oddballs value your places here at bottom of the heap Echo Backwater, you'd better stop targetting people.

Now. Poor old freefinker. You aided and abetted Georgem. You are an accomplice, a supporter of his campaign. Never once have you defended me or told georgem to shut up. I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise. There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for. But even if I did, it still wouldn't mean anything. Look : I'm sorry Georgem. I'm sorry Wacky Macky. See ? No sad music, the Heavens haven't opened, nobody cares, least of all me.

I've only got one thing I'm truly sorry about, and that is the amount of time I have wasted talking to people with silly names. I suppose I have some misguided faith in human nature, thinking you'd give up the bullying, and we'd all get on better.

But you live for this ! It's what i can't understand. I do now realise the best way to get back at you is to leave, because then you have no one to target. And exacly when will be the last time ? Only I can know that. And I'll get the last laugh because you will still be here waiting for "yet another" last post, and there won't be one !

So here is the last laugh : ? Where is it ?

Just couldn't be bothered.

Have a nice day.
[quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article. You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry this is happening. I have no idea why this BillyTheKid wishes to turn every thread into a discussion of how much he dislikes me. Please use the 'report this post' links on all the comments, and have them removed.[/p][/quote]I make a post. You, Georgem, then make an insulting remark about me. I rebuke you. Your "gang" join in. Hey ho, wrecked thread. It's that simple. And guess what ? The site admin people can see it it too ! Just as though your simpering is going to fool anybody with a brain cell ! From these latest posts, it seems like people posting here are beginning to realise that I am not to blame. They can see I'm part of the problem because I always stand up for myself, but not to blame. Chances are, when Dan sees my "resignation" tomorrow, he'll probably do nothing except wait and watch. See what the hunt does without their fox ! Well if you oddballs value your places here at bottom of the heap Echo Backwater, you'd better stop targetting people. Now. Poor old freefinker. You aided and abetted Georgem. You are an accomplice, a supporter of his campaign. Never once have you defended me or told georgem to shut up. I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise. There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for. But even if I did, it still wouldn't mean anything. Look : I'm sorry Georgem. I'm sorry Wacky Macky. See ? No sad music, the Heavens haven't opened, nobody cares, least of all me. I've only got one thing I'm truly sorry about, and that is the amount of time I have wasted talking to people with silly names. I suppose I have some misguided faith in human nature, thinking you'd give up the bullying, and we'd all get on better. But you live for this ! It's what i can't understand. I do now realise the best way to get back at you is to leave, because then you have no one to target. And exacly when will be the last time ? Only I can know that. And I'll get the last laugh because you will still be here waiting for "yet another" last post, and there won't be one ! So here is the last laugh : ? Where is it ? Just couldn't be bothered. Have a nice day. BillyTheKid

4:38pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Bitterne Jill says...

I doubt this is a case of "thief admits" as much as one of "lawyer advises thief to pretend to admit". Stealing from charities? Nasty people.
I doubt this is a case of "thief admits" as much as one of "lawyer advises thief to pretend to admit". Stealing from charities? Nasty people. Bitterne Jill

4:42pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Bitterne Jill says...

Good grief! Some of these comments are completely ridiculous! You lot ought to be ashamed of yourselves, picking fights like this all the time. It's quite annoying for those of us who want to comment on the story, to have to scroll through a load of name-calling and "he was mean to me" comments. At least attempt to stick to the subject, please!
Good grief! Some of these comments are completely ridiculous! You lot ought to be ashamed of yourselves, picking fights like this all the time. It's quite annoying for those of us who want to comment on the story, to have to scroll through a load of name-calling and "he was mean to me" comments. At least attempt to stick to the subject, please! Bitterne Jill

4:54pm Sun 30 Sep 12

freefinker says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article.
You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.
I'm sorry this is happening. I have no idea why this BillyTheKid wishes to turn every thread into a discussion of how much he dislikes me. Please use the 'report this post' links on all the comments, and have them removed.
I make a post. You, Georgem, then make an insulting remark about me. I rebuke you. Your "gang" join in. Hey ho, wrecked thread. It's that simple. And guess what ? The site admin people can see it it too ! Just as though your simpering is going to fool anybody with a brain cell !

From these latest posts, it seems like people posting here are beginning to realise that I am not to blame. They can see I'm part of the problem because I always stand up for myself, but not to blame.

Chances are, when Dan sees my "resignation" tomorrow, he'll probably do nothing except wait and watch. See what the hunt does without their fox !

Well if you oddballs value your places here at bottom of the heap Echo Backwater, you'd better stop targetting people.

Now. Poor old freefinker. You aided and abetted Georgem. You are an accomplice, a supporter of his campaign. Never once have you defended me or told georgem to shut up. I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise. There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for. But even if I did, it still wouldn't mean anything. Look : I'm sorry Georgem. I'm sorry Wacky Macky. See ? No sad music, the Heavens haven't opened, nobody cares, least of all me.

I've only got one thing I'm truly sorry about, and that is the amount of time I have wasted talking to people with silly names. I suppose I have some misguided faith in human nature, thinking you'd give up the bullying, and we'd all get on better.

But you live for this ! It's what i can't understand. I do now realise the best way to get back at you is to leave, because then you have no one to target. And exacly when will be the last time ? Only I can know that. And I'll get the last laugh because you will still be here waiting for "yet another" last post, and there won't be one !

So here is the last laugh : ? Where is it ?

Just couldn't be bothered.

Have a nice day.
BTK says "I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise."

You can't find the thread because it doesn't exist.

BTK says "There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for."

Very sincere of you, I think not.

I recognised what you were from the very beginning of your posting on this site and that is why I have deliberately ignored you - and why you can't find ANY post where I insult you.

Yet you have insulted me on several occasions, all of which I have ignored. You should be ashamed of yourself for the false accusations you have made about me as well as the insults you have fired in my direction.
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article. You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry this is happening. I have no idea why this BillyTheKid wishes to turn every thread into a discussion of how much he dislikes me. Please use the 'report this post' links on all the comments, and have them removed.[/p][/quote]I make a post. You, Georgem, then make an insulting remark about me. I rebuke you. Your "gang" join in. Hey ho, wrecked thread. It's that simple. And guess what ? The site admin people can see it it too ! Just as though your simpering is going to fool anybody with a brain cell ! From these latest posts, it seems like people posting here are beginning to realise that I am not to blame. They can see I'm part of the problem because I always stand up for myself, but not to blame. Chances are, when Dan sees my "resignation" tomorrow, he'll probably do nothing except wait and watch. See what the hunt does without their fox ! Well if you oddballs value your places here at bottom of the heap Echo Backwater, you'd better stop targetting people. Now. Poor old freefinker. You aided and abetted Georgem. You are an accomplice, a supporter of his campaign. Never once have you defended me or told georgem to shut up. I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise. There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for. But even if I did, it still wouldn't mean anything. Look : I'm sorry Georgem. I'm sorry Wacky Macky. See ? No sad music, the Heavens haven't opened, nobody cares, least of all me. I've only got one thing I'm truly sorry about, and that is the amount of time I have wasted talking to people with silly names. I suppose I have some misguided faith in human nature, thinking you'd give up the bullying, and we'd all get on better. But you live for this ! It's what i can't understand. I do now realise the best way to get back at you is to leave, because then you have no one to target. And exacly when will be the last time ? Only I can know that. And I'll get the last laugh because you will still be here waiting for "yet another" last post, and there won't be one ! So here is the last laugh : ? Where is it ? Just couldn't be bothered. Have a nice day.[/p][/quote]BTK says "I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise." You can't find the thread because it doesn't exist. BTK says "There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for." Very sincere of you, I think not. I recognised what you were from the very beginning of your posting on this site and that is why I have deliberately ignored you - and why you can't find ANY post where I insult you. Yet you have insulted me on several occasions, all of which I have ignored. You should be ashamed of yourself for the false accusations you have made about me as well as the insults you have fired in my direction. freefinker

5:22pm Sun 30 Sep 12

freefinker says...

freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article.
You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.
I'm sorry this is happening. I have no idea why this BillyTheKid wishes to turn every thread into a discussion of how much he dislikes me. Please use the 'report this post' links on all the comments, and have them removed.
I make a post. You, Georgem, then make an insulting remark about me. I rebuke you. Your "gang" join in. Hey ho, wrecked thread. It's that simple. And guess what ? The site admin people can see it it too ! Just as though your simpering is going to fool anybody with a brain cell !

From these latest posts, it seems like people posting here are beginning to realise that I am not to blame. They can see I'm part of the problem because I always stand up for myself, but not to blame.

Chances are, when Dan sees my "resignation" tomorrow, he'll probably do nothing except wait and watch. See what the hunt does without their fox !

Well if you oddballs value your places here at bottom of the heap Echo Backwater, you'd better stop targetting people.

Now. Poor old freefinker. You aided and abetted Georgem. You are an accomplice, a supporter of his campaign. Never once have you defended me or told georgem to shut up. I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise. There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for. But even if I did, it still wouldn't mean anything. Look : I'm sorry Georgem. I'm sorry Wacky Macky. See ? No sad music, the Heavens haven't opened, nobody cares, least of all me.

I've only got one thing I'm truly sorry about, and that is the amount of time I have wasted talking to people with silly names. I suppose I have some misguided faith in human nature, thinking you'd give up the bullying, and we'd all get on better.

But you live for this ! It's what i can't understand. I do now realise the best way to get back at you is to leave, because then you have no one to target. And exacly when will be the last time ? Only I can know that. And I'll get the last laugh because you will still be here waiting for "yet another" last post, and there won't be one !

So here is the last laugh : ? Where is it ?

Just couldn't be bothered.

Have a nice day.
BTK says "I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise."

You can't find the thread because it doesn't exist.

BTK says "There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for."

Very sincere of you, I think not.

I recognised what you were from the very beginning of your posting on this site and that is why I have deliberately ignored you - and why you can't find ANY post where I insult you.

Yet you have insulted me on several occasions, all of which I have ignored. You should be ashamed of yourself for the false accusations you have made about me as well as the insults you have fired in my direction.
.. oh, and it's not my job to defend you or tell Georgem to shut up.

Like every other contributor to this site, with the exception of you, we have no need for such irrelevant diversions.

Left, Centre, Right; Plebs, Middle Class, Toffs; Young, Old; Social Liberals, Conservative Hard-liners; Socialist Worker and Daily Mail Readers; Male, Female – we all got along quite well with respect, cutting debate, satire, jokes, argument and, on the whole, courtesy.

That is, until BTK came along and tried to trivialise everything into childish personal slanging matches. Yes, other may have responded, but you, BTK, are the catalyst for the personal insulting and taking stories off subject that has gone on these last few months.

I really do hope you actually mean you are “resigning”.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article. You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry this is happening. I have no idea why this BillyTheKid wishes to turn every thread into a discussion of how much he dislikes me. Please use the 'report this post' links on all the comments, and have them removed.[/p][/quote]I make a post. You, Georgem, then make an insulting remark about me. I rebuke you. Your "gang" join in. Hey ho, wrecked thread. It's that simple. And guess what ? The site admin people can see it it too ! Just as though your simpering is going to fool anybody with a brain cell ! From these latest posts, it seems like people posting here are beginning to realise that I am not to blame. They can see I'm part of the problem because I always stand up for myself, but not to blame. Chances are, when Dan sees my "resignation" tomorrow, he'll probably do nothing except wait and watch. See what the hunt does without their fox ! Well if you oddballs value your places here at bottom of the heap Echo Backwater, you'd better stop targetting people. Now. Poor old freefinker. You aided and abetted Georgem. You are an accomplice, a supporter of his campaign. Never once have you defended me or told georgem to shut up. I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise. There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for. But even if I did, it still wouldn't mean anything. Look : I'm sorry Georgem. I'm sorry Wacky Macky. See ? No sad music, the Heavens haven't opened, nobody cares, least of all me. I've only got one thing I'm truly sorry about, and that is the amount of time I have wasted talking to people with silly names. I suppose I have some misguided faith in human nature, thinking you'd give up the bullying, and we'd all get on better. But you live for this ! It's what i can't understand. I do now realise the best way to get back at you is to leave, because then you have no one to target. And exacly when will be the last time ? Only I can know that. And I'll get the last laugh because you will still be here waiting for "yet another" last post, and there won't be one ! So here is the last laugh : ? Where is it ? Just couldn't be bothered. Have a nice day.[/p][/quote]BTK says "I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise." You can't find the thread because it doesn't exist. BTK says "There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for." Very sincere of you, I think not. I recognised what you were from the very beginning of your posting on this site and that is why I have deliberately ignored you - and why you can't find ANY post where I insult you. Yet you have insulted me on several occasions, all of which I have ignored. You should be ashamed of yourself for the false accusations you have made about me as well as the insults you have fired in my direction.[/p][/quote].. oh, and it's not my job to defend you or tell Georgem to shut up. Like every other contributor to this site, with the exception of you, we have no need for such irrelevant diversions. Left, Centre, Right; Plebs, Middle Class, Toffs; Young, Old; Social Liberals, Conservative Hard-liners; Socialist Worker and Daily Mail Readers; Male, Female – we all got along quite well with respect, cutting debate, satire, jokes, argument and, on the whole, courtesy. That is, until BTK came along and tried to trivialise everything into childish personal slanging matches. Yes, other may have responded, but you, BTK, are the catalyst for the personal insulting and taking stories off subject that has gone on these last few months. I really do hope you actually mean you are “resigning”. freefinker

5:38pm Sun 30 Sep 12

rightway says...

MGRA wrote:
Drud addicts who offend should be sent to the Falkands for a year and trained in Mine clearance... there... sorted.
What have you got against "Drud" addicts.
If you meant "Drug" addicts it shows what a poor and lazy education you received, or like most offf us sometimes we just make a spelling mistake, but thankfully there are always people like you with nothing to add to a conversation, only your immature snide comments.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: Drud addicts who offend should be sent to the Falkands for a year and trained in Mine clearance... there... sorted.[/p][/quote]What have you got against "Drud" addicts. If you meant "Drug" addicts it shows what a poor and lazy education you received, or like most offf us sometimes we just make a spelling mistake, but thankfully there are always people like you with nothing to add to a conversation, only your immature snide comments. rightway

6:34pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Goldenwight says...

Since both of these people were already known to the Criminal Justice System, why was it felt that a suspended sentence would be worthwhile? After all, offences committed while on bail/in breach of conditional discharge says to me that they are not going to suddenly change their lifestyles.

Perhaps splitting them up and sending them to live in remote spots would be more effective?
Since both of these people were already known to the Criminal Justice System, why was it felt that a suspended sentence would be worthwhile? After all, offences committed while on bail/in breach of conditional discharge says to me that they are not going to suddenly change their lifestyles. Perhaps splitting them up and sending them to live in remote spots would be more effective? Goldenwight

9:22pm Sun 30 Sep 12

BillyTheKid says...

freefinker wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article.
You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.
I'm sorry this is happening. I have no idea why this BillyTheKid wishes to turn every thread into a discussion of how much he dislikes me. Please use the 'report this post' links on all the comments, and have them removed.
I make a post. You, Georgem, then make an insulting remark about me. I rebuke you. Your "gang" join in. Hey ho, wrecked thread. It's that simple. And guess what ? The site admin people can see it it too ! Just as though your simpering is going to fool anybody with a brain cell !

From these latest posts, it seems like people posting here are beginning to realise that I am not to blame. They can see I'm part of the problem because I always stand up for myself, but not to blame.

Chances are, when Dan sees my "resignation" tomorrow, he'll probably do nothing except wait and watch. See what the hunt does without their fox !

Well if you oddballs value your places here at bottom of the heap Echo Backwater, you'd better stop targetting people.

Now. Poor old freefinker. You aided and abetted Georgem. You are an accomplice, a supporter of his campaign. Never once have you defended me or told georgem to shut up. I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise. There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for. But even if I did, it still wouldn't mean anything. Look : I'm sorry Georgem. I'm sorry Wacky Macky. See ? No sad music, the Heavens haven't opened, nobody cares, least of all me.

I've only got one thing I'm truly sorry about, and that is the amount of time I have wasted talking to people with silly names. I suppose I have some misguided faith in human nature, thinking you'd give up the bullying, and we'd all get on better.

But you live for this ! It's what i can't understand. I do now realise the best way to get back at you is to leave, because then you have no one to target. And exacly when will be the last time ? Only I can know that. And I'll get the last laugh because you will still be here waiting for "yet another" last post, and there won't be one !

So here is the last laugh : ? Where is it ?

Just couldn't be bothered.

Have a nice day.
BTK says "I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise."

You can't find the thread because it doesn't exist.

BTK says "There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for."

Very sincere of you, I think not.

I recognised what you were from the very beginning of your posting on this site and that is why I have deliberately ignored you - and why you can't find ANY post where I insult you.

Yet you have insulted me on several occasions, all of which I have ignored. You should be ashamed of yourself for the false accusations you have made about me as well as the insults you have fired in my direction.
.. oh, and it's not my job to defend you or tell Georgem to shut up.

Like every other contributor to this site, with the exception of you, we have no need for such irrelevant diversions.

Left, Centre, Right; Plebs, Middle Class, Toffs; Young, Old; Social Liberals, Conservative Hard-liners; Socialist Worker and Daily Mail Readers; Male, Female – we all got along quite well with respect, cutting debate, satire, jokes, argument and, on the whole, courtesy.

That is, until BTK came along and tried to trivialise everything into childish personal slanging matches. Yes, other may have responded, but you, BTK, are the catalyst for the personal insulting and taking stories off subject that has gone on these last few months.

I really do hope you actually mean you are “resigning”.
Freethinker (might as well spell it correctly now and again), you are so wide of the mark it is unbelievable. What you are doing is classic trolling where you completely distort the truth to try and get an angry response. I haven't bothered to look up the thread because you are not worth it. You are a waste of my time. Your silly, relentless mindgame is not working.

If what you say is true, why have I not been banned ? Why, after all this time, am I still here ? I'll tell you why. Because the forum administrators know what some of you are like. It is perfectly simple to block my access to this site, and they have not done it. That is because they can see what you have done to me in the past. And they know that you have done it to others. You are always discourteous to Southy, often to Loosehead, and you've had a go a couple of times at Gingercyclist.

You, Freethinker, and your silly cronies are pathetic. Do you get that ? Pathetic. I don't command attention. You lavish it on me to give yourselves the opportunity to say something insulting or untrue. You want the retaliation so that you can use it as an excuse to carry on doing the same.

It is cyberbullying. You may not be as bad as some of the others, but you are part of it.

I have successfully kept you dangling on the end of strings for several days now. If you think I'm a troll, why have you not ignored me ? Why are you still talking to me ?

Whoever you are, whatever you are, this has not gone the way you wanted.

There's no discussion, argument or debate here ! It's all superficial, coffee-break chit chat and contradiction. Whenever I have tried to discuss something in depth or cast some light on a subject with some background knowledge, it has met with sneering derision and meaningless opposition.

Nobody has gained anything. I feel glad that I have a life, and won't miss posting here. But you lot will still be here, waffling away, too witless to find anything better to do.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article. You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry this is happening. I have no idea why this BillyTheKid wishes to turn every thread into a discussion of how much he dislikes me. Please use the 'report this post' links on all the comments, and have them removed.[/p][/quote]I make a post. You, Georgem, then make an insulting remark about me. I rebuke you. Your "gang" join in. Hey ho, wrecked thread. It's that simple. And guess what ? The site admin people can see it it too ! Just as though your simpering is going to fool anybody with a brain cell ! From these latest posts, it seems like people posting here are beginning to realise that I am not to blame. They can see I'm part of the problem because I always stand up for myself, but not to blame. Chances are, when Dan sees my "resignation" tomorrow, he'll probably do nothing except wait and watch. See what the hunt does without their fox ! Well if you oddballs value your places here at bottom of the heap Echo Backwater, you'd better stop targetting people. Now. Poor old freefinker. You aided and abetted Georgem. You are an accomplice, a supporter of his campaign. Never once have you defended me or told georgem to shut up. I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise. There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for. But even if I did, it still wouldn't mean anything. Look : I'm sorry Georgem. I'm sorry Wacky Macky. See ? No sad music, the Heavens haven't opened, nobody cares, least of all me. I've only got one thing I'm truly sorry about, and that is the amount of time I have wasted talking to people with silly names. I suppose I have some misguided faith in human nature, thinking you'd give up the bullying, and we'd all get on better. But you live for this ! It's what i can't understand. I do now realise the best way to get back at you is to leave, because then you have no one to target. And exacly when will be the last time ? Only I can know that. And I'll get the last laugh because you will still be here waiting for "yet another" last post, and there won't be one ! So here is the last laugh : ? Where is it ? Just couldn't be bothered. Have a nice day.[/p][/quote]BTK says "I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise." You can't find the thread because it doesn't exist. BTK says "There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for." Very sincere of you, I think not. I recognised what you were from the very beginning of your posting on this site and that is why I have deliberately ignored you - and why you can't find ANY post where I insult you. Yet you have insulted me on several occasions, all of which I have ignored. You should be ashamed of yourself for the false accusations you have made about me as well as the insults you have fired in my direction.[/p][/quote].. oh, and it's not my job to defend you or tell Georgem to shut up. Like every other contributor to this site, with the exception of you, we have no need for such irrelevant diversions. Left, Centre, Right; Plebs, Middle Class, Toffs; Young, Old; Social Liberals, Conservative Hard-liners; Socialist Worker and Daily Mail Readers; Male, Female – we all got along quite well with respect, cutting debate, satire, jokes, argument and, on the whole, courtesy. That is, until BTK came along and tried to trivialise everything into childish personal slanging matches. Yes, other may have responded, but you, BTK, are the catalyst for the personal insulting and taking stories off subject that has gone on these last few months. I really do hope you actually mean you are “resigning”.[/p][/quote]Freethinker (might as well spell it correctly now and again), you are so wide of the mark it is unbelievable. What you are doing is classic trolling where you completely distort the truth to try and get an angry response. I haven't bothered to look up the thread because you are not worth it. You are a waste of my time. Your silly, relentless mindgame is not working. If what you say is true, why have I not been banned ? Why, after all this time, am I still here ? I'll tell you why. Because the forum administrators know what some of you are like. It is perfectly simple to block my access to this site, and they have not done it. That is because they can see what you have done to me in the past. And they know that you have done it to others. You are always discourteous to Southy, often to Loosehead, and you've had a go a couple of times at Gingercyclist. You, Freethinker, and your silly cronies are pathetic. Do you get that ? Pathetic. I don't command attention. You lavish it on me to give yourselves the opportunity to say something insulting or untrue. You want the retaliation so that you can use it as an excuse to carry on doing the same. It is cyberbullying. You may not be as bad as some of the others, but you are part of it. I have successfully kept you dangling on the end of strings for several days now. If you think I'm a troll, why have you not ignored me ? Why are you still talking to me ? Whoever you are, whatever you are, this has not gone the way you wanted. There's no discussion, argument or debate here ! It's all superficial, coffee-break chit chat and contradiction. Whenever I have tried to discuss something in depth or cast some light on a subject with some background knowledge, it has met with sneering derision and meaningless opposition. Nobody has gained anything. I feel glad that I have a life, and won't miss posting here. But you lot will still be here, waffling away, too witless to find anything better to do. BillyTheKid

10:13pm Sun 30 Sep 12

freefinker says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article.
You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.
I'm sorry this is happening. I have no idea why this BillyTheKid wishes to turn every thread into a discussion of how much he dislikes me. Please use the 'report this post' links on all the comments, and have them removed.
I make a post. You, Georgem, then make an insulting remark about me. I rebuke you. Your "gang" join in. Hey ho, wrecked thread. It's that simple. And guess what ? The site admin people can see it it too ! Just as though your simpering is going to fool anybody with a brain cell !

From these latest posts, it seems like people posting here are beginning to realise that I am not to blame. They can see I'm part of the problem because I always stand up for myself, but not to blame.

Chances are, when Dan sees my "resignation" tomorrow, he'll probably do nothing except wait and watch. See what the hunt does without their fox !

Well if you oddballs value your places here at bottom of the heap Echo Backwater, you'd better stop targetting people.

Now. Poor old freefinker. You aided and abetted Georgem. You are an accomplice, a supporter of his campaign. Never once have you defended me or told georgem to shut up. I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise. There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for. But even if I did, it still wouldn't mean anything. Look : I'm sorry Georgem. I'm sorry Wacky Macky. See ? No sad music, the Heavens haven't opened, nobody cares, least of all me.

I've only got one thing I'm truly sorry about, and that is the amount of time I have wasted talking to people with silly names. I suppose I have some misguided faith in human nature, thinking you'd give up the bullying, and we'd all get on better.

But you live for this ! It's what i can't understand. I do now realise the best way to get back at you is to leave, because then you have no one to target. And exacly when will be the last time ? Only I can know that. And I'll get the last laugh because you will still be here waiting for "yet another" last post, and there won't be one !

So here is the last laugh : ? Where is it ?

Just couldn't be bothered.

Have a nice day.
BTK says "I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise."

You can't find the thread because it doesn't exist.

BTK says "There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for."

Very sincere of you, I think not.

I recognised what you were from the very beginning of your posting on this site and that is why I have deliberately ignored you - and why you can't find ANY post where I insult you.

Yet you have insulted me on several occasions, all of which I have ignored. You should be ashamed of yourself for the false accusations you have made about me as well as the insults you have fired in my direction.
.. oh, and it's not my job to defend you or tell Georgem to shut up.

Like every other contributor to this site, with the exception of you, we have no need for such irrelevant diversions.

Left, Centre, Right; Plebs, Middle Class, Toffs; Young, Old; Social Liberals, Conservative Hard-liners; Socialist Worker and Daily Mail Readers; Male, Female – we all got along quite well with respect, cutting debate, satire, jokes, argument and, on the whole, courtesy.

That is, until BTK came along and tried to trivialise everything into childish personal slanging matches. Yes, other may have responded, but you, BTK, are the catalyst for the personal insulting and taking stories off subject that has gone on these last few months.

I really do hope you actually mean you are “resigning”.
Freethinker (might as well spell it correctly now and again), you are so wide of the mark it is unbelievable. What you are doing is classic trolling where you completely distort the truth to try and get an angry response. I haven't bothered to look up the thread because you are not worth it. You are a waste of my time. Your silly, relentless mindgame is not working.

If what you say is true, why have I not been banned ? Why, after all this time, am I still here ? I'll tell you why. Because the forum administrators know what some of you are like. It is perfectly simple to block my access to this site, and they have not done it. That is because they can see what you have done to me in the past. And they know that you have done it to others. You are always discourteous to Southy, often to Loosehead, and you've had a go a couple of times at Gingercyclist.

You, Freethinker, and your silly cronies are pathetic. Do you get that ? Pathetic. I don't command attention. You lavish it on me to give yourselves the opportunity to say something insulting or untrue. You want the retaliation so that you can use it as an excuse to carry on doing the same.

It is cyberbullying. You may not be as bad as some of the others, but you are part of it.

I have successfully kept you dangling on the end of strings for several days now. If you think I'm a troll, why have you not ignored me ? Why are you still talking to me ?

Whoever you are, whatever you are, this has not gone the way you wanted.

There's no discussion, argument or debate here ! It's all superficial, coffee-break chit chat and contradiction. Whenever I have tried to discuss something in depth or cast some light on a subject with some background knowledge, it has met with sneering derision and meaningless opposition.

Nobody has gained anything. I feel glad that I have a life, and won't miss posting here. But you lot will still be here, waffling away, too witless to find anything better to do.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article. You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry this is happening. I have no idea why this BillyTheKid wishes to turn every thread into a discussion of how much he dislikes me. Please use the 'report this post' links on all the comments, and have them removed.[/p][/quote]I make a post. You, Georgem, then make an insulting remark about me. I rebuke you. Your "gang" join in. Hey ho, wrecked thread. It's that simple. And guess what ? The site admin people can see it it too ! Just as though your simpering is going to fool anybody with a brain cell ! From these latest posts, it seems like people posting here are beginning to realise that I am not to blame. They can see I'm part of the problem because I always stand up for myself, but not to blame. Chances are, when Dan sees my "resignation" tomorrow, he'll probably do nothing except wait and watch. See what the hunt does without their fox ! Well if you oddballs value your places here at bottom of the heap Echo Backwater, you'd better stop targetting people. Now. Poor old freefinker. You aided and abetted Georgem. You are an accomplice, a supporter of his campaign. Never once have you defended me or told georgem to shut up. I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise. There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for. But even if I did, it still wouldn't mean anything. Look : I'm sorry Georgem. I'm sorry Wacky Macky. See ? No sad music, the Heavens haven't opened, nobody cares, least of all me. I've only got one thing I'm truly sorry about, and that is the amount of time I have wasted talking to people with silly names. I suppose I have some misguided faith in human nature, thinking you'd give up the bullying, and we'd all get on better. But you live for this ! It's what i can't understand. I do now realise the best way to get back at you is to leave, because then you have no one to target. And exacly when will be the last time ? Only I can know that. And I'll get the last laugh because you will still be here waiting for "yet another" last post, and there won't be one ! So here is the last laugh : ? Where is it ? Just couldn't be bothered. Have a nice day.[/p][/quote]BTK says "I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise." You can't find the thread because it doesn't exist. BTK says "There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for." Very sincere of you, I think not. I recognised what you were from the very beginning of your posting on this site and that is why I have deliberately ignored you - and why you can't find ANY post where I insult you. Yet you have insulted me on several occasions, all of which I have ignored. You should be ashamed of yourself for the false accusations you have made about me as well as the insults you have fired in my direction.[/p][/quote].. oh, and it's not my job to defend you or tell Georgem to shut up. Like every other contributor to this site, with the exception of you, we have no need for such irrelevant diversions. Left, Centre, Right; Plebs, Middle Class, Toffs; Young, Old; Social Liberals, Conservative Hard-liners; Socialist Worker and Daily Mail Readers; Male, Female – we all got along quite well with respect, cutting debate, satire, jokes, argument and, on the whole, courtesy. That is, until BTK came along and tried to trivialise everything into childish personal slanging matches. Yes, other may have responded, but you, BTK, are the catalyst for the personal insulting and taking stories off subject that has gone on these last few months. I really do hope you actually mean you are “resigning”.[/p][/quote]Freethinker (might as well spell it correctly now and again), you are so wide of the mark it is unbelievable. What you are doing is classic trolling where you completely distort the truth to try and get an angry response. I haven't bothered to look up the thread because you are not worth it. You are a waste of my time. Your silly, relentless mindgame is not working. If what you say is true, why have I not been banned ? Why, after all this time, am I still here ? I'll tell you why. Because the forum administrators know what some of you are like. It is perfectly simple to block my access to this site, and they have not done it. That is because they can see what you have done to me in the past. And they know that you have done it to others. You are always discourteous to Southy, often to Loosehead, and you've had a go a couple of times at Gingercyclist. You, Freethinker, and your silly cronies are pathetic. Do you get that ? Pathetic. I don't command attention. You lavish it on me to give yourselves the opportunity to say something insulting or untrue. You want the retaliation so that you can use it as an excuse to carry on doing the same. It is cyberbullying. You may not be as bad as some of the others, but you are part of it. I have successfully kept you dangling on the end of strings for several days now. If you think I'm a troll, why have you not ignored me ? Why are you still talking to me ? Whoever you are, whatever you are, this has not gone the way you wanted. There's no discussion, argument or debate here ! It's all superficial, coffee-break chit chat and contradiction. Whenever I have tried to discuss something in depth or cast some light on a subject with some background knowledge, it has met with sneering derision and meaningless opposition. Nobody has gained anything. I feel glad that I have a life, and won't miss posting here. But you lot will still be here, waffling away, too witless to find anything better to do.[/p][/quote]ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. freefinker

10:41pm Sun 30 Sep 12

BillyTheKid says...

freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article.
You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.
I'm sorry this is happening. I have no idea why this BillyTheKid wishes to turn every thread into a discussion of how much he dislikes me. Please use the 'report this post' links on all the comments, and have them removed.
I make a post. You, Georgem, then make an insulting remark about me. I rebuke you. Your "gang" join in. Hey ho, wrecked thread. It's that simple. And guess what ? The site admin people can see it it too ! Just as though your simpering is going to fool anybody with a brain cell !

From these latest posts, it seems like people posting here are beginning to realise that I am not to blame. They can see I'm part of the problem because I always stand up for myself, but not to blame.

Chances are, when Dan sees my "resignation" tomorrow, he'll probably do nothing except wait and watch. See what the hunt does without their fox !

Well if you oddballs value your places here at bottom of the heap Echo Backwater, you'd better stop targetting people.

Now. Poor old freefinker. You aided and abetted Georgem. You are an accomplice, a supporter of his campaign. Never once have you defended me or told georgem to shut up. I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise. There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for. But even if I did, it still wouldn't mean anything. Look : I'm sorry Georgem. I'm sorry Wacky Macky. See ? No sad music, the Heavens haven't opened, nobody cares, least of all me.

I've only got one thing I'm truly sorry about, and that is the amount of time I have wasted talking to people with silly names. I suppose I have some misguided faith in human nature, thinking you'd give up the bullying, and we'd all get on better.

But you live for this ! It's what i can't understand. I do now realise the best way to get back at you is to leave, because then you have no one to target. And exacly when will be the last time ? Only I can know that. And I'll get the last laugh because you will still be here waiting for "yet another" last post, and there won't be one !

So here is the last laugh : ? Where is it ?

Just couldn't be bothered.

Have a nice day.
BTK says "I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise."

You can't find the thread because it doesn't exist.

BTK says "There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for."

Very sincere of you, I think not.

I recognised what you were from the very beginning of your posting on this site and that is why I have deliberately ignored you - and why you can't find ANY post where I insult you.

Yet you have insulted me on several occasions, all of which I have ignored. You should be ashamed of yourself for the false accusations you have made about me as well as the insults you have fired in my direction.
.. oh, and it's not my job to defend you or tell Georgem to shut up.

Like every other contributor to this site, with the exception of you, we have no need for such irrelevant diversions.

Left, Centre, Right; Plebs, Middle Class, Toffs; Young, Old; Social Liberals, Conservative Hard-liners; Socialist Worker and Daily Mail Readers; Male, Female – we all got along quite well with respect, cutting debate, satire, jokes, argument and, on the whole, courtesy.

That is, until BTK came along and tried to trivialise everything into childish personal slanging matches. Yes, other may have responded, but you, BTK, are the catalyst for the personal insulting and taking stories off subject that has gone on these last few months.

I really do hope you actually mean you are “resigning”.
Freethinker (might as well spell it correctly now and again), you are so wide of the mark it is unbelievable. What you are doing is classic trolling where you completely distort the truth to try and get an angry response. I haven't bothered to look up the thread because you are not worth it. You are a waste of my time. Your silly, relentless mindgame is not working.

If what you say is true, why have I not been banned ? Why, after all this time, am I still here ? I'll tell you why. Because the forum administrators know what some of you are like. It is perfectly simple to block my access to this site, and they have not done it. That is because they can see what you have done to me in the past. And they know that you have done it to others. You are always discourteous to Southy, often to Loosehead, and you've had a go a couple of times at Gingercyclist.

You, Freethinker, and your silly cronies are pathetic. Do you get that ? Pathetic. I don't command attention. You lavish it on me to give yourselves the opportunity to say something insulting or untrue. You want the retaliation so that you can use it as an excuse to carry on doing the same.

It is cyberbullying. You may not be as bad as some of the others, but you are part of it.

I have successfully kept you dangling on the end of strings for several days now. If you think I'm a troll, why have you not ignored me ? Why are you still talking to me ?

Whoever you are, whatever you are, this has not gone the way you wanted.

There's no discussion, argument or debate here ! It's all superficial, coffee-break chit chat and contradiction. Whenever I have tried to discuss something in depth or cast some light on a subject with some background knowledge, it has met with sneering derision and meaningless opposition.

Nobody has gained anything. I feel glad that I have a life, and won't miss posting here. But you lot will still be here, waffling away, too witless to find anything better to do.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
Thank you. Here is an example of you being callous and unkind to someone pouring their heart out.

I have 44 threads archived, and some of them are yards long. They are for my refererence if I need to defend my case, or make a formal complaint. I'm not going to spend ages proving to you what you already know : you assist Georgem's attacks by fanning the flames, and making negative remarks that are tantamount to insults. If I do discover that I've got you mixed up with someone else, all I can say is tough luck. You get judged by the company you keep.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article. You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry this is happening. I have no idea why this BillyTheKid wishes to turn every thread into a discussion of how much he dislikes me. Please use the 'report this post' links on all the comments, and have them removed.[/p][/quote]I make a post. You, Georgem, then make an insulting remark about me. I rebuke you. Your "gang" join in. Hey ho, wrecked thread. It's that simple. And guess what ? The site admin people can see it it too ! Just as though your simpering is going to fool anybody with a brain cell ! From these latest posts, it seems like people posting here are beginning to realise that I am not to blame. They can see I'm part of the problem because I always stand up for myself, but not to blame. Chances are, when Dan sees my "resignation" tomorrow, he'll probably do nothing except wait and watch. See what the hunt does without their fox ! Well if you oddballs value your places here at bottom of the heap Echo Backwater, you'd better stop targetting people. Now. Poor old freefinker. You aided and abetted Georgem. You are an accomplice, a supporter of his campaign. Never once have you defended me or told georgem to shut up. I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise. There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for. But even if I did, it still wouldn't mean anything. Look : I'm sorry Georgem. I'm sorry Wacky Macky. See ? No sad music, the Heavens haven't opened, nobody cares, least of all me. I've only got one thing I'm truly sorry about, and that is the amount of time I have wasted talking to people with silly names. I suppose I have some misguided faith in human nature, thinking you'd give up the bullying, and we'd all get on better. But you live for this ! It's what i can't understand. I do now realise the best way to get back at you is to leave, because then you have no one to target. And exacly when will be the last time ? Only I can know that. And I'll get the last laugh because you will still be here waiting for "yet another" last post, and there won't be one ! So here is the last laugh : ? Where is it ? Just couldn't be bothered. Have a nice day.[/p][/quote]BTK says "I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise." You can't find the thread because it doesn't exist. BTK says "There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for." Very sincere of you, I think not. I recognised what you were from the very beginning of your posting on this site and that is why I have deliberately ignored you - and why you can't find ANY post where I insult you. Yet you have insulted me on several occasions, all of which I have ignored. You should be ashamed of yourself for the false accusations you have made about me as well as the insults you have fired in my direction.[/p][/quote].. oh, and it's not my job to defend you or tell Georgem to shut up. Like every other contributor to this site, with the exception of you, we have no need for such irrelevant diversions. Left, Centre, Right; Plebs, Middle Class, Toffs; Young, Old; Social Liberals, Conservative Hard-liners; Socialist Worker and Daily Mail Readers; Male, Female – we all got along quite well with respect, cutting debate, satire, jokes, argument and, on the whole, courtesy. That is, until BTK came along and tried to trivialise everything into childish personal slanging matches. Yes, other may have responded, but you, BTK, are the catalyst for the personal insulting and taking stories off subject that has gone on these last few months. I really do hope you actually mean you are “resigning”.[/p][/quote]Freethinker (might as well spell it correctly now and again), you are so wide of the mark it is unbelievable. What you are doing is classic trolling where you completely distort the truth to try and get an angry response. I haven't bothered to look up the thread because you are not worth it. You are a waste of my time. Your silly, relentless mindgame is not working. If what you say is true, why have I not been banned ? Why, after all this time, am I still here ? I'll tell you why. Because the forum administrators know what some of you are like. It is perfectly simple to block my access to this site, and they have not done it. That is because they can see what you have done to me in the past. And they know that you have done it to others. You are always discourteous to Southy, often to Loosehead, and you've had a go a couple of times at Gingercyclist. You, Freethinker, and your silly cronies are pathetic. Do you get that ? Pathetic. I don't command attention. You lavish it on me to give yourselves the opportunity to say something insulting or untrue. You want the retaliation so that you can use it as an excuse to carry on doing the same. It is cyberbullying. You may not be as bad as some of the others, but you are part of it. I have successfully kept you dangling on the end of strings for several days now. If you think I'm a troll, why have you not ignored me ? Why are you still talking to me ? Whoever you are, whatever you are, this has not gone the way you wanted. There's no discussion, argument or debate here ! It's all superficial, coffee-break chit chat and contradiction. Whenever I have tried to discuss something in depth or cast some light on a subject with some background knowledge, it has met with sneering derision and meaningless opposition. Nobody has gained anything. I feel glad that I have a life, and won't miss posting here. But you lot will still be here, waffling away, too witless to find anything better to do.[/p][/quote]ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.[/p][/quote]Thank you. Here is an example of you being callous and unkind to someone pouring their heart out. I have 44 threads archived, and some of them are yards long. They are for my refererence if I need to defend my case, or make a formal complaint. I'm not going to spend ages proving to you what you already know : you assist Georgem's attacks by fanning the flames, and making negative remarks that are tantamount to insults. If I do discover that I've got you mixed up with someone else, all I can say is tough luck. You get judged by the company you keep. BillyTheKid

11:10pm Sun 30 Sep 12

freefinker says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article.
You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.
I'm sorry this is happening. I have no idea why this BillyTheKid wishes to turn every thread into a discussion of how much he dislikes me. Please use the 'report this post' links on all the comments, and have them removed.
I make a post. You, Georgem, then make an insulting remark about me. I rebuke you. Your "gang" join in. Hey ho, wrecked thread. It's that simple. And guess what ? The site admin people can see it it too ! Just as though your simpering is going to fool anybody with a brain cell !

From these latest posts, it seems like people posting here are beginning to realise that I am not to blame. They can see I'm part of the problem because I always stand up for myself, but not to blame.

Chances are, when Dan sees my "resignation" tomorrow, he'll probably do nothing except wait and watch. See what the hunt does without their fox !

Well if you oddballs value your places here at bottom of the heap Echo Backwater, you'd better stop targetting people.

Now. Poor old freefinker. You aided and abetted Georgem. You are an accomplice, a supporter of his campaign. Never once have you defended me or told georgem to shut up. I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise. There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for. But even if I did, it still wouldn't mean anything. Look : I'm sorry Georgem. I'm sorry Wacky Macky. See ? No sad music, the Heavens haven't opened, nobody cares, least of all me.

I've only got one thing I'm truly sorry about, and that is the amount of time I have wasted talking to people with silly names. I suppose I have some misguided faith in human nature, thinking you'd give up the bullying, and we'd all get on better.

But you live for this ! It's what i can't understand. I do now realise the best way to get back at you is to leave, because then you have no one to target. And exacly when will be the last time ? Only I can know that. And I'll get the last laugh because you will still be here waiting for "yet another" last post, and there won't be one !

So here is the last laugh : ? Where is it ?

Just couldn't be bothered.

Have a nice day.
BTK says "I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise."

You can't find the thread because it doesn't exist.

BTK says "There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for."

Very sincere of you, I think not.

I recognised what you were from the very beginning of your posting on this site and that is why I have deliberately ignored you - and why you can't find ANY post where I insult you.

Yet you have insulted me on several occasions, all of which I have ignored. You should be ashamed of yourself for the false accusations you have made about me as well as the insults you have fired in my direction.
.. oh, and it's not my job to defend you or tell Georgem to shut up.

Like every other contributor to this site, with the exception of you, we have no need for such irrelevant diversions.

Left, Centre, Right; Plebs, Middle Class, Toffs; Young, Old; Social Liberals, Conservative Hard-liners; Socialist Worker and Daily Mail Readers; Male, Female – we all got along quite well with respect, cutting debate, satire, jokes, argument and, on the whole, courtesy.

That is, until BTK came along and tried to trivialise everything into childish personal slanging matches. Yes, other may have responded, but you, BTK, are the catalyst for the personal insulting and taking stories off subject that has gone on these last few months.

I really do hope you actually mean you are “resigning”.
Freethinker (might as well spell it correctly now and again), you are so wide of the mark it is unbelievable. What you are doing is classic trolling where you completely distort the truth to try and get an angry response. I haven't bothered to look up the thread because you are not worth it. You are a waste of my time. Your silly, relentless mindgame is not working.

If what you say is true, why have I not been banned ? Why, after all this time, am I still here ? I'll tell you why. Because the forum administrators know what some of you are like. It is perfectly simple to block my access to this site, and they have not done it. That is because they can see what you have done to me in the past. And they know that you have done it to others. You are always discourteous to Southy, often to Loosehead, and you've had a go a couple of times at Gingercyclist.

You, Freethinker, and your silly cronies are pathetic. Do you get that ? Pathetic. I don't command attention. You lavish it on me to give yourselves the opportunity to say something insulting or untrue. You want the retaliation so that you can use it as an excuse to carry on doing the same.

It is cyberbullying. You may not be as bad as some of the others, but you are part of it.

I have successfully kept you dangling on the end of strings for several days now. If you think I'm a troll, why have you not ignored me ? Why are you still talking to me ?

Whoever you are, whatever you are, this has not gone the way you wanted.

There's no discussion, argument or debate here ! It's all superficial, coffee-break chit chat and contradiction. Whenever I have tried to discuss something in depth or cast some light on a subject with some background knowledge, it has met with sneering derision and meaningless opposition.

Nobody has gained anything. I feel glad that I have a life, and won't miss posting here. But you lot will still be here, waffling away, too witless to find anything better to do.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
Thank you. Here is an example of you being callous and unkind to someone pouring their heart out.

I have 44 threads archived, and some of them are yards long. They are for my refererence if I need to defend my case, or make a formal complaint. I'm not going to spend ages proving to you what you already know : you assist Georgem's attacks by fanning the flames, and making negative remarks that are tantamount to insults. If I do discover that I've got you mixed up with someone else, all I can say is tough luck. You get judged by the company you keep.
.. oh, please DO make a formal complaint.

At least then your rudeness towards me and my lack of ANY rude or offensive retaliation will be clearly demonstrated.

You’re not “pouring their heart out”.

You’re continuing to insult me for no reason: -
“you completely distort the truth”.
“you are not worth it”.
“you are a waste of my time”.
“your (sic) silly”.
“you, Freethinker .. are pathetic”.

And still not one shred of evidence produced that I have EVER been insulting towards you.
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article. You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry this is happening. I have no idea why this BillyTheKid wishes to turn every thread into a discussion of how much he dislikes me. Please use the 'report this post' links on all the comments, and have them removed.[/p][/quote]I make a post. You, Georgem, then make an insulting remark about me. I rebuke you. Your "gang" join in. Hey ho, wrecked thread. It's that simple. And guess what ? The site admin people can see it it too ! Just as though your simpering is going to fool anybody with a brain cell ! From these latest posts, it seems like people posting here are beginning to realise that I am not to blame. They can see I'm part of the problem because I always stand up for myself, but not to blame. Chances are, when Dan sees my "resignation" tomorrow, he'll probably do nothing except wait and watch. See what the hunt does without their fox ! Well if you oddballs value your places here at bottom of the heap Echo Backwater, you'd better stop targetting people. Now. Poor old freefinker. You aided and abetted Georgem. You are an accomplice, a supporter of his campaign. Never once have you defended me or told georgem to shut up. I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise. There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for. But even if I did, it still wouldn't mean anything. Look : I'm sorry Georgem. I'm sorry Wacky Macky. See ? No sad music, the Heavens haven't opened, nobody cares, least of all me. I've only got one thing I'm truly sorry about, and that is the amount of time I have wasted talking to people with silly names. I suppose I have some misguided faith in human nature, thinking you'd give up the bullying, and we'd all get on better. But you live for this ! It's what i can't understand. I do now realise the best way to get back at you is to leave, because then you have no one to target. And exacly when will be the last time ? Only I can know that. And I'll get the last laugh because you will still be here waiting for "yet another" last post, and there won't be one ! So here is the last laugh : ? Where is it ? Just couldn't be bothered. Have a nice day.[/p][/quote]BTK says "I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise." You can't find the thread because it doesn't exist. BTK says "There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for." Very sincere of you, I think not. I recognised what you were from the very beginning of your posting on this site and that is why I have deliberately ignored you - and why you can't find ANY post where I insult you. Yet you have insulted me on several occasions, all of which I have ignored. You should be ashamed of yourself for the false accusations you have made about me as well as the insults you have fired in my direction.[/p][/quote].. oh, and it's not my job to defend you or tell Georgem to shut up. Like every other contributor to this site, with the exception of you, we have no need for such irrelevant diversions. Left, Centre, Right; Plebs, Middle Class, Toffs; Young, Old; Social Liberals, Conservative Hard-liners; Socialist Worker and Daily Mail Readers; Male, Female – we all got along quite well with respect, cutting debate, satire, jokes, argument and, on the whole, courtesy. That is, until BTK came along and tried to trivialise everything into childish personal slanging matches. Yes, other may have responded, but you, BTK, are the catalyst for the personal insulting and taking stories off subject that has gone on these last few months. I really do hope you actually mean you are “resigning”.[/p][/quote]Freethinker (might as well spell it correctly now and again), you are so wide of the mark it is unbelievable. What you are doing is classic trolling where you completely distort the truth to try and get an angry response. I haven't bothered to look up the thread because you are not worth it. You are a waste of my time. Your silly, relentless mindgame is not working. If what you say is true, why have I not been banned ? Why, after all this time, am I still here ? I'll tell you why. Because the forum administrators know what some of you are like. It is perfectly simple to block my access to this site, and they have not done it. That is because they can see what you have done to me in the past. And they know that you have done it to others. You are always discourteous to Southy, often to Loosehead, and you've had a go a couple of times at Gingercyclist. You, Freethinker, and your silly cronies are pathetic. Do you get that ? Pathetic. I don't command attention. You lavish it on me to give yourselves the opportunity to say something insulting or untrue. You want the retaliation so that you can use it as an excuse to carry on doing the same. It is cyberbullying. You may not be as bad as some of the others, but you are part of it. I have successfully kept you dangling on the end of strings for several days now. If you think I'm a troll, why have you not ignored me ? Why are you still talking to me ? Whoever you are, whatever you are, this has not gone the way you wanted. There's no discussion, argument or debate here ! It's all superficial, coffee-break chit chat and contradiction. Whenever I have tried to discuss something in depth or cast some light on a subject with some background knowledge, it has met with sneering derision and meaningless opposition. Nobody has gained anything. I feel glad that I have a life, and won't miss posting here. But you lot will still be here, waffling away, too witless to find anything better to do.[/p][/quote]ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.[/p][/quote]Thank you. Here is an example of you being callous and unkind to someone pouring their heart out. I have 44 threads archived, and some of them are yards long. They are for my refererence if I need to defend my case, or make a formal complaint. I'm not going to spend ages proving to you what you already know : you assist Georgem's attacks by fanning the flames, and making negative remarks that are tantamount to insults. If I do discover that I've got you mixed up with someone else, all I can say is tough luck. You get judged by the company you keep.[/p][/quote].. oh, please DO make a formal complaint. At least then your rudeness towards me and my lack of ANY rude or offensive retaliation will be clearly demonstrated. You’re not “pouring their heart out”. You’re continuing to insult me for no reason: - “you completely distort the truth”. “you are not worth it”. “you are a waste of my time”. “your (sic) silly”. “you, Freethinker .. are pathetic”. And still not one shred of evidence produced that I have EVER been insulting towards you. freefinker

11:24pm Sun 30 Sep 12

amused, bemused says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Georgem wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article.
You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.
I'm sorry this is happening. I have no idea why this BillyTheKid wishes to turn every thread into a discussion of how much he dislikes me. Please use the 'report this post' links on all the comments, and have them removed.
I make a post. You, Georgem, then make an insulting remark about me. I rebuke you. Your "gang" join in. Hey ho, wrecked thread. It's that simple. And guess what ? The site admin people can see it it too ! Just as though your simpering is going to fool anybody with a brain cell !

From these latest posts, it seems like people posting here are beginning to realise that I am not to blame. They can see I'm part of the problem because I always stand up for myself, but not to blame.

Chances are, when Dan sees my "resignation" tomorrow, he'll probably do nothing except wait and watch. See what the hunt does without their fox !

Well if you oddballs value your places here at bottom of the heap Echo Backwater, you'd better stop targetting people.

Now. Poor old freefinker. You aided and abetted Georgem. You are an accomplice, a supporter of his campaign. Never once have you defended me or told georgem to shut up. I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise. There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for. But even if I did, it still wouldn't mean anything. Look : I'm sorry Georgem. I'm sorry Wacky Macky. See ? No sad music, the Heavens haven't opened, nobody cares, least of all me.

I've only got one thing I'm truly sorry about, and that is the amount of time I have wasted talking to people with silly names. I suppose I have some misguided faith in human nature, thinking you'd give up the bullying, and we'd all get on better.

But you live for this ! It's what i can't understand. I do now realise the best way to get back at you is to leave, because then you have no one to target. And exacly when will be the last time ? Only I can know that. And I'll get the last laugh because you will still be here waiting for "yet another" last post, and there won't be one !

So here is the last laugh : ? Where is it ?

Just couldn't be bothered.

Have a nice day.
BTK says "I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise."

You can't find the thread because it doesn't exist.

BTK says "There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for."

Very sincere of you, I think not.

I recognised what you were from the very beginning of your posting on this site and that is why I have deliberately ignored you - and why you can't find ANY post where I insult you.

Yet you have insulted me on several occasions, all of which I have ignored. You should be ashamed of yourself for the false accusations you have made about me as well as the insults you have fired in my direction.
.. oh, and it's not my job to defend you or tell Georgem to shut up.

Like every other contributor to this site, with the exception of you, we have no need for such irrelevant diversions.

Left, Centre, Right; Plebs, Middle Class, Toffs; Young, Old; Social Liberals, Conservative Hard-liners; Socialist Worker and Daily Mail Readers; Male, Female – we all got along quite well with respect, cutting debate, satire, jokes, argument and, on the whole, courtesy.

That is, until BTK came along and tried to trivialise everything into childish personal slanging matches. Yes, other may have responded, but you, BTK, are the catalyst for the personal insulting and taking stories off subject that has gone on these last few months.

I really do hope you actually mean you are “resigning”.
Freethinker (might as well spell it correctly now and again), you are so wide of the mark it is unbelievable. What you are doing is classic trolling where you completely distort the truth to try and get an angry response. I haven't bothered to look up the thread because you are not worth it. You are a waste of my time. Your silly, relentless mindgame is not working.

If what you say is true, why have I not been banned ? Why, after all this time, am I still here ? I'll tell you why. Because the forum administrators know what some of you are like. It is perfectly simple to block my access to this site, and they have not done it. That is because they can see what you have done to me in the past. And they know that you have done it to others. You are always discourteous to Southy, often to Loosehead, and you've had a go a couple of times at Gingercyclist.

You, Freethinker, and your silly cronies are pathetic. Do you get that ? Pathetic. I don't command attention. You lavish it on me to give yourselves the opportunity to say something insulting or untrue. You want the retaliation so that you can use it as an excuse to carry on doing the same.

It is cyberbullying. You may not be as bad as some of the others, but you are part of it.

I have successfully kept you dangling on the end of strings for several days now. If you think I'm a troll, why have you not ignored me ? Why are you still talking to me ?

Whoever you are, whatever you are, this has not gone the way you wanted.

There's no discussion, argument or debate here ! It's all superficial, coffee-break chit chat and contradiction. Whenever I have tried to discuss something in depth or cast some light on a subject with some background knowledge, it has met with sneering derision and meaningless opposition.

Nobody has gained anything. I feel glad that I have a life, and won't miss posting here. But you lot will still be here, waffling away, too witless to find anything better to do.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.
Thank you. Here is an example of you being callous and unkind to someone pouring their heart out.

I have 44 threads archived, and some of them are yards long. They are for my refererence if I need to defend my case, or make a formal complaint. I'm not going to spend ages proving to you what you already know : you assist Georgem's attacks by fanning the flames, and making negative remarks that are tantamount to insults. If I do discover that I've got you mixed up with someone else, all I can say is tough luck. You get judged by the company you keep.
doesn't look callous or unkind to me, mate, just looks like hes echoing (sorry) what everyone else thinks of you - boring everyone to tears cos someone was rude to you on teh internet or something! I dunno whats gone on here but this storys 99% you calling other people names over and over again and complaining about people being nasty to you, but to me it looks like you being a bit of a d1ck to everyone else! Get over yourself you old git lol
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: Will you lot either kiss and make up or better still take your childish fights elsewhere, your comments have nothing to do with the article. You could always set up your own chat forum where you can make personal childish comments all day long.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry this is happening. I have no idea why this BillyTheKid wishes to turn every thread into a discussion of how much he dislikes me. Please use the 'report this post' links on all the comments, and have them removed.[/p][/quote]I make a post. You, Georgem, then make an insulting remark about me. I rebuke you. Your "gang" join in. Hey ho, wrecked thread. It's that simple. And guess what ? The site admin people can see it it too ! Just as though your simpering is going to fool anybody with a brain cell ! From these latest posts, it seems like people posting here are beginning to realise that I am not to blame. They can see I'm part of the problem because I always stand up for myself, but not to blame. Chances are, when Dan sees my "resignation" tomorrow, he'll probably do nothing except wait and watch. See what the hunt does without their fox ! Well if you oddballs value your places here at bottom of the heap Echo Backwater, you'd better stop targetting people. Now. Poor old freefinker. You aided and abetted Georgem. You are an accomplice, a supporter of his campaign. Never once have you defended me or told georgem to shut up. I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise. There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for. But even if I did, it still wouldn't mean anything. Look : I'm sorry Georgem. I'm sorry Wacky Macky. See ? No sad music, the Heavens haven't opened, nobody cares, least of all me. I've only got one thing I'm truly sorry about, and that is the amount of time I have wasted talking to people with silly names. I suppose I have some misguided faith in human nature, thinking you'd give up the bullying, and we'd all get on better. But you live for this ! It's what i can't understand. I do now realise the best way to get back at you is to leave, because then you have no one to target. And exacly when will be the last time ? Only I can know that. And I'll get the last laugh because you will still be here waiting for "yet another" last post, and there won't be one ! So here is the last laugh : ? Where is it ? Just couldn't be bothered. Have a nice day.[/p][/quote]BTK says "I can't find the thread for the moment, so I apologise." You can't find the thread because it doesn't exist. BTK says "There you are, Billy says sorry. It doesn't mean anything because I haven't said what I'm apologising for." Very sincere of you, I think not. I recognised what you were from the very beginning of your posting on this site and that is why I have deliberately ignored you - and why you can't find ANY post where I insult you. Yet you have insulted me on several occasions, all of which I have ignored. You should be ashamed of yourself for the false accusations you have made about me as well as the insults you have fired in my direction.[/p][/quote].. oh, and it's not my job to defend you or tell Georgem to shut up. Like every other contributor to this site, with the exception of you, we have no need for such irrelevant diversions. Left, Centre, Right; Plebs, Middle Class, Toffs; Young, Old; Social Liberals, Conservative Hard-liners; Socialist Worker and Daily Mail Readers; Male, Female – we all got along quite well with respect, cutting debate, satire, jokes, argument and, on the whole, courtesy. That is, until BTK came along and tried to trivialise everything into childish personal slanging matches. Yes, other may have responded, but you, BTK, are the catalyst for the personal insulting and taking stories off subject that has gone on these last few months. I really do hope you actually mean you are “resigning”.[/p][/quote]Freethinker (might as well spell it correctly now and again), you are so wide of the mark it is unbelievable. What you are doing is classic trolling where you completely distort the truth to try and get an angry response. I haven't bothered to look up the thread because you are not worth it. You are a waste of my time. Your silly, relentless mindgame is not working. If what you say is true, why have I not been banned ? Why, after all this time, am I still here ? I'll tell you why. Because the forum administrators know what some of you are like. It is perfectly simple to block my access to this site, and they have not done it. That is because they can see what you have done to me in the past. And they know that you have done it to others. You are always discourteous to Southy, often to Loosehead, and you've had a go a couple of times at Gingercyclist. You, Freethinker, and your silly cronies are pathetic. Do you get that ? Pathetic. I don't command attention. You lavish it on me to give yourselves the opportunity to say something insulting or untrue. You want the retaliation so that you can use it as an excuse to carry on doing the same. It is cyberbullying. You may not be as bad as some of the others, but you are part of it. I have successfully kept you dangling on the end of strings for several days now. If you think I'm a troll, why have you not ignored me ? Why are you still talking to me ? Whoever you are, whatever you are, this has not gone the way you wanted. There's no discussion, argument or debate here ! It's all superficial, coffee-break chit chat and contradiction. Whenever I have tried to discuss something in depth or cast some light on a subject with some background knowledge, it has met with sneering derision and meaningless opposition. Nobody has gained anything. I feel glad that I have a life, and won't miss posting here. But you lot will still be here, waffling away, too witless to find anything better to do.[/p][/quote]ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ. ZZZZ, ZZZZ, ZZZZ.[/p][/quote]Thank you. Here is an example of you being callous and unkind to someone pouring their heart out. I have 44 threads archived, and some of them are yards long. They are for my refererence if I need to defend my case, or make a formal complaint. I'm not going to spend ages proving to you what you already know : you assist Georgem's attacks by fanning the flames, and making negative remarks that are tantamount to insults. If I do discover that I've got you mixed up with someone else, all I can say is tough luck. You get judged by the company you keep.[/p][/quote]doesn't look callous or unkind to me, mate, just looks like hes echoing (sorry) what everyone else thinks of you - boring everyone to tears cos someone was rude to you on teh internet or something! I dunno whats gone on here but this storys 99% you calling other people names over and over again and complaining about people being nasty to you, but to me it looks like you being a bit of a d1ck to everyone else! Get over yourself you old git lol amused, bemused

11:25pm Sun 30 Sep 12

amused, bemused says...

this dudes a freak lol
this dudes a freak lol amused, bemused

11:57pm Sun 30 Sep 12

BillyTheKid says...

Why are people so stupid ? They don't read the thread and just jump on the bandwagon. I'm just having a laugh before I go at the expense of the trolls.

Freefinker. Lets assume I am the loon that everyone says I am. What are YOU doing here every five minutes ? No adult would do that, or use the "ZZZ" thing to indicate boredom. Kids would. And thats the only mistake I made, telling everyone I was a teacher. So what we've got is a bunch of kids here, haven't we ? Taking a pop at a teacher ? I wish i'd realised before.

You sad people.
Why are people so stupid ? They don't read the thread and just jump on the bandwagon. I'm just having a laugh before I go at the expense of the trolls. Freefinker. Lets assume I am the loon that everyone says I am. What are YOU doing here every five minutes ? No adult would do that, or use the "ZZZ" thing to indicate boredom. Kids would. And thats the only mistake I made, telling everyone I was a teacher. So what we've got is a bunch of kids here, haven't we ? Taking a pop at a teacher ? I wish i'd realised before. You sad people. BillyTheKid

12:10am Mon 1 Oct 12

IronLady2010 says...

In fairness, everyone is to blame as you're replying to Billy. If you ignore as I do, you won't get a response. Trolls get bored when they don't receive a reply.
In fairness, everyone is to blame as you're replying to Billy. If you ignore as I do, you won't get a response. Trolls get bored when they don't receive a reply. IronLady2010

12:35am Mon 1 Oct 12

BillyTheKid says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
In fairness, everyone is to blame as you're replying to Billy. If you ignore as I do, you won't get a response. Trolls get bored when they don't receive a reply.
It's people like you that isolated me in the first place.

I am not a troll, I'm just better at discussion than any of you, and you find that difficult to cope with.

My guess is that Clausentum left for the same reason.

You are like children who isolate one kid, and wonder why they don't behave as you do.

I don't need to troll. I've got plenty of interests that make trolling seem rather shallow and pointless. If I were to troll, I'd want a lot more fun than there is to be had here, and, I'm sorry to say it, but "brighter" victims ! There's nobody worth trolling here.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: In fairness, everyone is to blame as you're replying to Billy. If you ignore as I do, you won't get a response. Trolls get bored when they don't receive a reply.[/p][/quote]It's people like you that isolated me in the first place. I am not a troll, I'm just better at discussion than any of you, and you find that difficult to cope with. My guess is that Clausentum left for the same reason. You are like children who isolate one kid, and wonder why they don't behave as you do. I don't need to troll. I've got plenty of interests that make trolling seem rather shallow and pointless. If I were to troll, I'd want a lot more fun than there is to be had here, and, I'm sorry to say it, but "brighter" victims ! There's nobody worth trolling here. BillyTheKid

12:54am Mon 1 Oct 12

freefinker says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
In fairness, everyone is to blame as you're replying to Billy. If you ignore as I do, you won't get a response. Trolls get bored when they don't receive a reply.
.. I know, and I have ignored BTK for almost all the time.

Sorry for the lapse.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: In fairness, everyone is to blame as you're replying to Billy. If you ignore as I do, you won't get a response. Trolls get bored when they don't receive a reply.[/p][/quote].. I know, and I have ignored BTK for almost all the time. Sorry for the lapse. freefinker

3:38am Mon 1 Oct 12

BillyTheKid says...

freefinker wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
In fairness, everyone is to blame as you're replying to Billy. If you ignore as I do, you won't get a response. Trolls get bored when they don't receive a reply.
.. I know, and I have ignored BTK for almost all the time.

Sorry for the lapse.
Why are you apologising to IronLady ? Oh yes......cos you are just a little boy saying sorry to the self-appointed "mummy" here, the "Mrs Wu" from Shirley. She arrives, dispenses her cod wisdom, she goes. She doesn't ever discuss anything with anyone. You know why ? Because she is afraid you will discover she has very little to say beyond the headline. Bit like Georgem. Unless you get him on mobile phones, and probably the history of buses and trains, then he will talk forever.

You know, Stinky, old man, I could get a taste for trolling ! Not the basic bull**** that you drongos go in for. You are just too dam ned obvious.

Although.......liste
n. Have you ever tried talking to real people ? They are those human things that have faces with eyes and ears and things. Where they beat the computer is that you can tell when they are bull****ing just by looking at these things called expressions that they keep on their faces. They have trolls, just like we do, only they call them troublemakers and stirrers. I strongly recommend the real world to you. Although....you and your cronies must have flunked it there otherwise you wouldn't be here, in virtual Podunk, would you ? Oh well. Never mind.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: In fairness, everyone is to blame as you're replying to Billy. If you ignore as I do, you won't get a response. Trolls get bored when they don't receive a reply.[/p][/quote].. I know, and I have ignored BTK for almost all the time. Sorry for the lapse.[/p][/quote]Why are you apologising to IronLady ? Oh yes......cos you are just a little boy saying sorry to the self-appointed "mummy" here, the "Mrs Wu" from Shirley. She arrives, dispenses her cod wisdom, she goes. She doesn't ever discuss anything with anyone. You know why ? Because she is afraid you will discover she has very little to say beyond the headline. Bit like Georgem. Unless you get him on mobile phones, and probably the history of buses and trains, then he will talk forever. You know, Stinky, old man, I could get a taste for trolling ! Not the basic bull**** that you drongos go in for. You are just too dam ned obvious. Although.......liste n. Have you ever tried talking to real people ? They are those human things that have faces with eyes and ears and things. Where they beat the computer is that you can tell when they are bull****ing just by looking at these things called expressions that they keep on their faces. They have trolls, just like we do, only they call them troublemakers and stirrers. I strongly recommend the real world to you. Although....you and your cronies must have flunked it there otherwise you wouldn't be here, in virtual Podunk, would you ? Oh well. Never mind. BillyTheKid

3:47am Mon 1 Oct 12

BillyTheKid says...

Just a few more hours, then Billy The Kid will vanish. For ever.

As I look around me, I smile nostalgically at the web page, look at the comment box where I used to type all those comments, and run my cursor lovingly over the "submit" button !

Goodbye, forum. Bye bye Uncle Dan !
Welcome back, real world, all is forgiven !
Just a few more hours, then Billy The Kid will vanish. For ever. As I look around me, I smile nostalgically at the web page, look at the comment box where I used to type all those comments, and run my cursor lovingly over the "submit" button ! Goodbye, forum. Bye bye Uncle Dan ! Welcome back, real world, all is forgiven ! BillyTheKid

3:52am Mon 1 Oct 12

BillyTheKid says...

Creativity and imagination......I strongly recommend it, treefu....ummm.....f
ree...er....whatever your jokey name is.
Creativity and imagination......I strongly recommend it, treefu....ummm.....f ree...er....whatever your jokey name is. BillyTheKid

11:21am Mon 1 Oct 12

amused, bemused says...

lol he spent a whole weekend posting every 2 hours about how other people should visit the real world!! what a saddo
lol he spent a whole weekend posting every 2 hours about how other people should visit the real world!! what a saddo amused, bemused

1:02pm Mon 1 Oct 12

BillyTheKid says...

amused, bemused wrote:
lol he spent a whole weekend posting every 2 hours about how other people should visit the real world!! what a saddo
You thought my postings were serious ?

Laugh out extremely loud !

I was simply answering people's questions, and taking the micky where appropriate. One last verbal "binge" !

Pat Garratt is VERY late. I'm all packed and ready to go.

Who, apart from me, Mr/Mrs Amused, is going to read your comment here at the bottom of an old thread ? Seems you are the saddo !
[quote][p][bold]amused, bemused[/bold] wrote: lol he spent a whole weekend posting every 2 hours about how other people should visit the real world!! what a saddo[/p][/quote]You thought my postings were serious ? Laugh out extremely loud ! I was simply answering people's questions, and taking the micky where appropriate. One last verbal "binge" ! Pat Garratt is VERY late. I'm all packed and ready to go. Who, apart from me, Mr/Mrs Amused, is going to read your comment here at the bottom of an old thread ? Seems you are the saddo ! BillyTheKid

1:07pm Mon 1 Oct 12

amused, bemused says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
amused, bemused wrote:
lol he spent a whole weekend posting every 2 hours about how other people should visit the real world!! what a saddo
You thought my postings were serious ?

Laugh out extremely loud !

I was simply answering people's questions, and taking the micky where appropriate. One last verbal "binge" !

Pat Garratt is VERY late. I'm all packed and ready to go.

Who, apart from me, Mr/Mrs Amused, is going to read your comment here at the bottom of an old thread ? Seems you are the saddo !
they are serious you were up all night saturday and sunday making comments even though people werent replying! and your still commenting on other stories today even though your supposedly resigning lol what a sad idiot!!
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]amused, bemused[/bold] wrote: lol he spent a whole weekend posting every 2 hours about how other people should visit the real world!! what a saddo[/p][/quote]You thought my postings were serious ? Laugh out extremely loud ! I was simply answering people's questions, and taking the micky where appropriate. One last verbal "binge" ! Pat Garratt is VERY late. I'm all packed and ready to go. Who, apart from me, Mr/Mrs Amused, is going to read your comment here at the bottom of an old thread ? Seems you are the saddo ![/p][/quote]they are serious you were up all night saturday and sunday making comments even though people werent replying! and your still commenting on other stories today even though your supposedly resigning lol what a sad idiot!! amused, bemused

1:26pm Mon 1 Oct 12

amused, bemused says...

you got a serious problem mate if you spend two nights in a row saying stuff you dont even mean!!!
you got a serious problem mate if you spend two nights in a row saying stuff you dont even mean!!! amused, bemused

6:26pm Mon 1 Oct 12

BillyTheKid says...

You are just another of these **** holes here who think they can work out somebody's personality from a bunch of typed sentences.

I know what I'm doing and why, and I'm not bothering to explain.

You are just trailing around after me, watching.

Perv !
You are just another of these **** holes here who think they can work out somebody's personality from a bunch of typed sentences. I know what I'm doing and why, and I'm not bothering to explain. You are just trailing around after me, watching. Perv ! BillyTheKid

7:51pm Mon 1 Oct 12

amused, bemused says...

"You are just another of these **** holes here who think they can work out somebody's personality from a bunch of typed sentences."

ironic cos thats exactly what youre doing you retard!!
"You are just another of these **** holes here who think they can work out somebody's personality from a bunch of typed sentences." ironic cos thats exactly what youre doing you retard!! amused, bemused

10:31pm Mon 1 Oct 12

Ginger_cyclist says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
You are just another of these **** holes here who think they can work out somebody's personality from a bunch of typed sentences.

I know what I'm doing and why, and I'm not bothering to explain.

You are just trailing around after me, watching.

Perv !
Actually, working out someones personality from a bunch of typed sentences is exactly what employers do when they look at a C.V or application form, also the police do it if you're a suspect in a crime.
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: You are just another of these **** holes here who think they can work out somebody's personality from a bunch of typed sentences. I know what I'm doing and why, and I'm not bothering to explain. You are just trailing around after me, watching. Perv ![/p][/quote]Actually, working out someones personality from a bunch of typed sentences is exactly what employers do when they look at a C.V or application form, also the police do it if you're a suspect in a crime. Ginger_cyclist

11:53pm Mon 1 Oct 12

BillyTheKid says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
You are just another of these **** holes here who think they can work out somebody's personality from a bunch of typed sentences.

I know what I'm doing and why, and I'm not bothering to explain.

You are just trailing around after me, watching.

Perv !
Actually, working out someones personality from a bunch of typed sentences is exactly what employers do when they look at a C.V or application form, also the police do it if you're a suspect in a crime.
Rubbish. Total rubbish.

The written application is the formality. The phone call between present and prospective employers is the all important factor. Then the face-to-face interview.

The police also interview people face-to-face before they make any decisions.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: You are just another of these **** holes here who think they can work out somebody's personality from a bunch of typed sentences. I know what I'm doing and why, and I'm not bothering to explain. You are just trailing around after me, watching. Perv ![/p][/quote]Actually, working out someones personality from a bunch of typed sentences is exactly what employers do when they look at a C.V or application form, also the police do it if you're a suspect in a crime.[/p][/quote]Rubbish. Total rubbish. The written application is the formality. The phone call between present and prospective employers is the all important factor. Then the face-to-face interview. The police also interview people face-to-face before they make any decisions. BillyTheKid

12:47am Tue 2 Oct 12

Ginger_cyclist says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
You are just another of these **** holes here who think they can work out somebody's personality from a bunch of typed sentences.

I know what I'm doing and why, and I'm not bothering to explain.

You are just trailing around after me, watching.

Perv !
Actually, working out someones personality from a bunch of typed sentences is exactly what employers do when they look at a C.V or application form, also the police do it if you're a suspect in a crime.
Rubbish. Total rubbish.

The written application is the formality. The phone call between present and prospective employers is the all important factor. Then the face-to-face interview.

The police also interview people face-to-face before they make any decisions.
They say that but employers judge you before they meet you and then they judge you again within 3 seconds of meeting you and the police... Some of them decide you're guilty until proven innocent.
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: You are just another of these **** holes here who think they can work out somebody's personality from a bunch of typed sentences. I know what I'm doing and why, and I'm not bothering to explain. You are just trailing around after me, watching. Perv ![/p][/quote]Actually, working out someones personality from a bunch of typed sentences is exactly what employers do when they look at a C.V or application form, also the police do it if you're a suspect in a crime.[/p][/quote]Rubbish. Total rubbish. The written application is the formality. The phone call between present and prospective employers is the all important factor. Then the face-to-face interview. The police also interview people face-to-face before they make any decisions.[/p][/quote]They say that but employers judge you before they meet you and then they judge you again within 3 seconds of meeting you and the police... Some of them decide you're guilty until proven innocent. Ginger_cyclist

12:48am Tue 2 Oct 12

Ginger_cyclist says...

Also it's now Tuesday, I thought Billy was supposed to have had his account deleted a few hours? So why is he still here?
Also it's now Tuesday, I thought Billy was supposed to have had his account deleted a few hours? So why is he still here? Ginger_cyclist

5:53am Tue 2 Oct 12

BillyTheKid says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Also it's now Tuesday, I thought Billy was supposed to have had his account deleted a few hours? So why is he still here?
That was just a rumour I put round !

Listen, youngster, just because you and your arrogant friends all believe the same thing doesn't make it right. You, and Georgem, and IronHead have all convinced yourselves I'm here to troll, and your apparent stubborn, blinkered little minds won't allow you think otherwise. Well, that's your problem. All you want is to make me annoyed, so i'm pretending to be annoyed for you ! You should be grateful !

I've had my life, Ginger. I'm just hanging round here for amusement. Whether I just drift off through boredom, or Kerins finally gets round to cancelling my account like I asked him......who knows ?

Get this straight. I am NOT Billy The Kid. It is a role, an assumed character. This whole thing is just an act. In the real world I have my own name, and a perfectly normal life.

But you, Ginger, are young. You have a life away from here, a proper name. So what the hell is a kid like you doing hanging round this dead-end site ? There are better things to do, better places to be. But of course it's your choice and nothing to do with me.

I'm retired. I can afford to waste time if I want. Unlike you, I know this site for what it is : a meeting place for the lonely. I'm not lonely, so I don't belong here.

Call it a teacher's instinct, but you are headed for trouble here. You've already had one or two tangles. Why ? Because you have insight, integrity, and imagination. And the stick-in-the-mud regulars here will feel threatened by that, and will try to put you down. But it is your choice.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: Also it's now Tuesday, I thought Billy was supposed to have had his account deleted a few hours? So why is he still here?[/p][/quote]That was just a rumour I put round ! Listen, youngster, just because you and your arrogant friends all believe the same thing doesn't make it right. You, and Georgem, and IronHead have all convinced yourselves I'm here to troll, and your apparent stubborn, blinkered little minds won't allow you think otherwise. Well, that's your problem. All you want is to make me annoyed, so i'm pretending to be annoyed for you ! You should be grateful ! I've had my life, Ginger. I'm just hanging round here for amusement. Whether I just drift off through boredom, or Kerins finally gets round to cancelling my account like I asked him......who knows ? Get this straight. I am NOT Billy The Kid. It is a role, an assumed character. This whole thing is just an act. In the real world I have my own name, and a perfectly normal life. But you, Ginger, are young. You have a life away from here, a proper name. So what the hell is a kid like you doing hanging round this dead-end site ? There are better things to do, better places to be. But of course it's your choice and nothing to do with me. I'm retired. I can afford to waste time if I want. Unlike you, I know this site for what it is : a meeting place for the lonely. I'm not lonely, so I don't belong here. Call it a teacher's instinct, but you are headed for trouble here. You've already had one or two tangles. Why ? Because you have insight, integrity, and imagination. And the stick-in-the-mud regulars here will feel threatened by that, and will try to put you down. But it is your choice. BillyTheKid

2:44am Thu 4 Oct 12

wake up says...

BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure.

Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.
BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12

"There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ?

Someone has to take the initiative, so I will.

I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid.

I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going.

It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved.

For my part the "war" is over."


Yea, sure is I see.
And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.

You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.
BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: -
“You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.”

Now, it’s: -
“Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.”

Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce.

Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you.

So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you.

Then there’s this: -
BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12
“By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.”

Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you.

If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns.

You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.
You sad character.

To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue.

You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker.

It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website.

How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit !

Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.
.. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations.

I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings.

Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.
It'll take me a good hour to go through the threads I have archived to find the specific bits that relate to what you are talking about, cut and paste it, and display it here. Why would I do that ? It's for me to show Echo admin if I choose to. I'm not stupid, and you don't matter.
Your 'archiving threads' now?

Call this number: 08457 90 90 90

Someone will be there for you.
Now you listen to me, Doctor Shoong.

I post a comment. Georgem makes some snide remark. I rebuke him. He and his friends have a go, and I fight back. That has been the pattern for many, many months.

According to Dan Kerins, people who read these threads don't read them all through. They read the story, a couple of comments then go to the end to post their comment. Invariably they come across Georgem and his gang bullying me, and assume that they are the "goodies" fighting a "baddie". So they complain. Kerins thought we were all as bad as one another. I pointed out that Georgem is always the instigator. Kerins said the admin team haven't got time to go through whole threads, so I offered to archive threads where Georgem and his cronies get up to their usual tricks. So I now have quite a few examples of what he does.

No, Shoong, you haven't got a breakdown in the offing with me. Just covering my back, is all I'm doing.

I'll assume you mean well, and thank you for your concern. But I am obviously suspicious of you because you're always here when Georgem is here, and you have not noticed that he always starts the trouble. I don't need to prove what is already there in black and white. Read it for yourself. It often goes like this : I'll make some comment about the story, and a then Georgem will say something like "Take no notice of Billy, he is a troll / seeking attention / is an idiot". Now I don't know about you, Shoongy, old stick, but that looks pretty clear to me who starts the trouble. If you can't see that. maybe YOU should call that number !
I CALLED THAT NUMBER ,,,, lol never gonna look at cucumbers in the same way ever again lol
DONT CALL THAT

NUMBER ! LOL
[quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12 "There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ? Someone has to take the initiative, so I will. I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid. I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going. It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved. For my part the "war" is over." Yea, sure is I see.[/p][/quote]And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now. You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: - “You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.” Now, it’s: - “Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.” Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce. Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you. So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you. Then there’s this: - BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12 “By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.” Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you. If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns. You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.[/p][/quote]You sad character. To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue. You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker. It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website. How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit ! Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.[/p][/quote].. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations. I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings. Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.[/p][/quote]It'll take me a good hour to go through the threads I have archived to find the specific bits that relate to what you are talking about, cut and paste it, and display it here. Why would I do that ? It's for me to show Echo admin if I choose to. I'm not stupid, and you don't matter.[/p][/quote]Your 'archiving threads' now? Call this number: 08457 90 90 90 Someone will be there for you.[/p][/quote]Now you listen to me, Doctor Shoong. I post a comment. Georgem makes some snide remark. I rebuke him. He and his friends have a go, and I fight back. That has been the pattern for many, many months. According to Dan Kerins, people who read these threads don't read them all through. They read the story, a couple of comments then go to the end to post their comment. Invariably they come across Georgem and his gang bullying me, and assume that they are the "goodies" fighting a "baddie". So they complain. Kerins thought we were all as bad as one another. I pointed out that Georgem is always the instigator. Kerins said the admin team haven't got time to go through whole threads, so I offered to archive threads where Georgem and his cronies get up to their usual tricks. So I now have quite a few examples of what he does. No, Shoong, you haven't got a breakdown in the offing with me. Just covering my back, is all I'm doing. I'll assume you mean well, and thank you for your concern. But I am obviously suspicious of you because you're always here when Georgem is here, and you have not noticed that he always starts the trouble. I don't need to prove what is already there in black and white. Read it for yourself. It often goes like this : I'll make some comment about the story, and a then Georgem will say something like "Take no notice of Billy, he is a troll / seeking attention / is an idiot". Now I don't know about you, Shoongy, old stick, but that looks pretty clear to me who starts the trouble. If you can't see that. maybe YOU should call that number ![/p][/quote]I CALLED THAT NUMBER ,,,, lol never gonna look at cucumbers in the same way ever again lol DONT CALL THAT NUMBER ! LOL wake up

12:53pm Thu 4 Oct 12

rich the stitch says...

wake up wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
Shoong wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote:
freefinker wrote:
BillyTheKid wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.
BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12 "There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ? Someone has to take the initiative, so I will. I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid. I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going. It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved. For my part the "war" is over." Yea, sure is I see.
And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now. You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.
BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: - “You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.” Now, it’s: - “Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.” Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce. Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you. So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you. Then there’s this: - BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12 “By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.” Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you. If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns. You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.
You sad character. To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue. You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker. It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website. How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit ! Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.
.. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations. I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings. Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.
It'll take me a good hour to go through the threads I have archived to find the specific bits that relate to what you are talking about, cut and paste it, and display it here. Why would I do that ? It's for me to show Echo admin if I choose to. I'm not stupid, and you don't matter.
Your 'archiving threads' now? Call this number: 08457 90 90 90 Someone will be there for you.
Now you listen to me, Doctor Shoong. I post a comment. Georgem makes some snide remark. I rebuke him. He and his friends have a go, and I fight back. That has been the pattern for many, many months. According to Dan Kerins, people who read these threads don't read them all through. They read the story, a couple of comments then go to the end to post their comment. Invariably they come across Georgem and his gang bullying me, and assume that they are the "goodies" fighting a "baddie". So they complain. Kerins thought we were all as bad as one another. I pointed out that Georgem is always the instigator. Kerins said the admin team haven't got time to go through whole threads, so I offered to archive threads where Georgem and his cronies get up to their usual tricks. So I now have quite a few examples of what he does. No, Shoong, you haven't got a breakdown in the offing with me. Just covering my back, is all I'm doing. I'll assume you mean well, and thank you for your concern. But I am obviously suspicious of you because you're always here when Georgem is here, and you have not noticed that he always starts the trouble. I don't need to prove what is already there in black and white. Read it for yourself. It often goes like this : I'll make some comment about the story, and a then Georgem will say something like "Take no notice of Billy, he is a troll / seeking attention / is an idiot". Now I don't know about you, Shoongy, old stick, but that looks pretty clear to me who starts the trouble. If you can't see that. maybe YOU should call that number !
I CALLED THAT NUMBER ,,,, lol never gonna look at cucumbers in the same way ever again lol DONT CALL THAT NUMBER ! LOL
@ BTK. You said earlier that the reason you could not get out more was because you were looking after a sick relative. Maybe if you spent more time looking after that person than spending hour after hour on here, hunched over your computer, feverishly pressing the refresh button to see if you have had a response, your relative may get the care they need. If someone was caring for a relative of mine and I’d seen they had been on here as much as you I’d be calling social services. You're obviously struggling; you should seek some help rather than vent your anger on here.
[quote][p][bold]wake up[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillyTheKid[/bold] wrote: Oooooh ! This thread looks just ready for Georgem to come in and screw things up. Watch out, JPM, he'll snap at your ankles again for sure. Georgem's "Achilles heel" ? Call him Mr Bigelow, and check out the Ray Bradbury story "The Dwarf". You'll see the connection between the story and Georgem's activities here clearly.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 4:17pm Fri 31 Aug 12 "There is just no getting through to you, is there, Georgem ? Someone has to take the initiative, so I will. I will not comment on, refer to, mention, or in any way acknowledge, directly or indirectly, any of your posts from now on. And I ask you to do the same in respect of Billy The Kid. I will apply the same approach to freefinker and clausentum, and anyone else who wants to keep this problem going. It seems to me that people can demonstrate troll-like behaviour in certain circumstances, and that may have happened in Billy The Kid's case. Change the circumstances, and the problem should be solved. For my part the "war" is over." Yea, sure is I see.[/p][/quote]And who broke the "treaty" first ? Georgem did, TWICE ! Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now. You give me one good reason why I should honour any agreement I made with internet goofs like you lot.[/p][/quote]BillyTheKid says, 6:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12: - “You (that’s me, freefinker) know you and Georgem have made unjustifable insults against me in the past. Yes I have them archived for when I finally go to the editor and ask him why he allows decent, ordinary posters to be bullied and intimidated by you two. Georgem does the provoking, you fan the flames. Got recorded in black and white.” Now, it’s: - “Yes I have it archived, but i can't be bothered to look for it now.” Seems to be a consistent pattern emerging, BTK claims to have it all archived but refuses to produce. Why? Because you can’t back up your scandalous and probably libellous accusations you are making about my comments on this forum towards you. So here’s the challenge – show us all the evidence that I “have made unjustifable insults against” you. Then there’s this: - BillyTheKid says, 4:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12 “By the way, anyone reading this post, the two posters I have criticised (that’s me, freefinker and Georgem) will now start their usual personal abuse. Hopefully Dan Kerins will catch them "at it" yet again.” Again I find this to be libellous. Again I challenge you to produce chapter and verse on this “personal abuse” from me directed at you. If you can’t rise to my challenges then I expect a full and public apology from you in these columns. You should also report yourself to Dan Kerins for these outrageous comment towards me which breech the t and c’s of this site.[/p][/quote]You sad character. To prove libel, you have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt, that I wrote the words, that they were directed at you personally, and that they are untrue. You cannot do either because no one can prove I typed it ( not even me ! )and your name is not freefinker. It would be different if it you had a website where you posted your real name and photograph, and it could be shown that someone using a particular computer made an attempt to post a libellous comment on your website. How can anonymous people claim libel or slander on an open forum, you twit ! Anyway here goes : I most humbly apologise to freestinker -oops ! - freeTHinker on these hallowed columns if I said anything about this fictional character that is untrue. But I stick with anything I said which is true.[/p][/quote].. so, you can't produce one single shred of evidence from past posts to back up your libellous accusations. I think you will find that the adjective libellous can be used without the need to initiate civil court proceedings. Libel – ‘a piece of writing which contains bad and false things about a person’.[/p][/quote]It'll take me a good hour to go through the threads I have archived to find the specific bits that relate to what you are talking about, cut and paste it, and display it here. Why would I do that ? It's for me to show Echo admin if I choose to. I'm not stupid, and you don't matter.[/p][/quote]Your 'archiving threads' now? Call this number: 08457 90 90 90 Someone will be there for you.[/p][/quote]Now you listen to me, Doctor Shoong. I post a comment. Georgem makes some snide remark. I rebuke him. He and his friends have a go, and I fight back. That has been the pattern for many, many months. According to Dan Kerins, people who read these threads don't read them all through. They read the story, a couple of comments then go to the end to post their comment. Invariably they come across Georgem and his gang bullying me, and assume that they are the "goodies" fighting a "baddie". So they complain. Kerins thought we were all as bad as one another. I pointed out that Georgem is always the instigator. Kerins said the admin team haven't got time to go through whole threads, so I offered to archive threads where Georgem and his cronies get up to their usual tricks. So I now have quite a few examples of what he does. No, Shoong, you haven't got a breakdown in the offing with me. Just covering my back, is all I'm doing. I'll assume you mean well, and thank you for your concern. But I am obviously suspicious of you because you're always here when Georgem is here, and you have not noticed that he always starts the trouble. I don't need to prove what is already there in black and white. Read it for yourself. It often goes like this : I'll make some comment about the story, and a then Georgem will say something like "Take no notice of Billy, he is a troll / seeking attention / is an idiot". Now I don't know about you, Shoongy, old stick, but that looks pretty clear to me who starts the trouble. If you can't see that. maybe YOU should call that number ![/p][/quote]I CALLED THAT NUMBER ,,,, lol never gonna look at cucumbers in the same way ever again lol DONT CALL THAT NUMBER ! LOL[/p][/quote]@ BTK. You said earlier that the reason you could not get out more was because you were looking after a sick relative. Maybe if you spent more time looking after that person than spending hour after hour on here, hunched over your computer, feverishly pressing the refresh button to see if you have had a response, your relative may get the care they need. If someone was caring for a relative of mine and I’d seen they had been on here as much as you I’d be calling social services. You're obviously struggling; you should seek some help rather than vent your anger on here. rich the stitch

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