Biker injured in motorway accident (From Daily Echo)

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Considering trucks often use that route, I wouldn't be surprised if it was oil or diesel that caused the accident in the first place but then it could also have been road debris.

"No other cars were involved" - bit confused here.

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Considering trucks often use that route, I wouldn't be surprised if it was oil or diesel that caused the accident in the first place but then it could also have been road debris.

Given the carp (sp!) state of the M27 in general, your probably right about the debris. The milled sections of concrete don't even conform to the Highways Agency's published standards, where such remedial milling should be TRANSVERSE to the flow, not with it, so keeping it 'clean' and safe is a joke, yet again it's 'out-to-contract'. The debris field at J5 is another bone of contention, that get's bad with much less truck traffic.

As for DERV spill's, that's down to poorly maintained or poorly driven (drivers are responsible for fueling usually) trucks in the main, though buses/coaches and white van man also play a part.

Hope the rider and pillion are ok.

I do that route every weekday in the rush hour, the worst bit is the beige section, but what can catch you out is the join between the lanes, it's slidey, uneven and can cause a slight wobble. I can imagine with two up, it's lethal. Hope they recover quickly from their minor injuries.

BikerNick wrote:
I do that route every weekday in the rush hour, the worst bit is the beige section, but what can catch you out is the join between the lanes, it's slidey, uneven and can cause a slight wobble. I can imagine with two up, it's lethal. Hope they recover quickly from their minor injuries.

Have they 'milled' that section? J5 West bound is so bad it even get's my land-Rover squirming, on the bike it's even worse.

BikerNick wrote:
I do that route every weekday in the rush hour, the worst bit is the beige section, but what can catch you out is the join between the lanes, it's slidey, uneven and can cause a slight wobble. I can imagine with two up, it's lethal. Hope they recover quickly from their minor injuries.

Have they 'milled' that section? J5 West bound is so bad it even get's my Land-Rover squirming, on the bike it's simply dangerous.

Niel wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Considering trucks often use that route, I wouldn't be surprised if it was oil or diesel that caused the accident in the first place but then it could also have been road debris.

Given the carp (sp!) state of the M27 in general, your probably right about the debris. The milled sections of concrete don't even conform to the Highways Agency's published standards, where such remedial milling should be TRANSVERSE to the flow, not with it, so keeping it 'clean' and safe is a joke, yet again it's 'out-to-contract'. The debris field at J5 is another bone of contention, that get's bad with much less truck traffic.

As for DERV spill's, that's down to poorly maintained or poorly driven (drivers are responsible for fueling usually) trucks in the main, though buses/coaches and white van man also play a part.

Hope the rider and pillion are ok.

One observer notes that trucks often use that route and there was me thinking that trucks used all motorway junctions. Another observation that it's the fault of the road, debris, poorly maintained or driven trucks, buses/coaches, white van man, Uncle Tom Cobley and no suggestion that it could have been the bike or its rider to blame? There was a massive anti truck thread after the death of a motorcyclist in Brockenhurst but little comment about the fact that he chose to overtake on a tiny stretch of straight road bounded by high hedges and between two blind bends. Bikers are fallible, as well as car drivers but sadly they suffer far worse in any sort of collision..

Drove past this today, as a biker myself looked like the front tyre was flat? As no other drivers involved wonder if this was a blow out? Both riders had full gear on. Hope both are OK.

Niel wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Considering trucks often use that route, I wouldn't be surprised if it was oil or diesel that caused the accident in the first place but then it could also have been road debris.

Given the carp (sp!) state of the M27 in general, your probably right about the debris. The milled sections of concrete don't even conform to the Highways Agency's published standards, where such remedial milling should be TRANSVERSE to the flow, not with it, so keeping it 'clean' and safe is a joke, yet again it's 'out-to-contract'. The debris field at J5 is another bone of contention, that get's bad with much less truck traffic.

As for DERV spill's, that's down to poorly maintained or poorly driven (drivers are responsible for fueling usually) trucks in the main, though buses/coaches and white van man also play a part.

Hope the rider and pillion are ok.

Indeed, don't most motorways actually have tarmac on them these days? Also I hope both rider and pillion recover but I know myself how easily conditions can affect those on 2 wheels, what with me being a cyclist, I also see Torchie (who seems to have a dislike for 2-wheelers in general) seems to have already come out with the "All bikers are the same" trash talk, he does it for cyclists too which makes him a sad person.

Paul TS wrote:
Drove past this today, as a biker myself looked like the front tyre was flat? As no other drivers involved wonder if this was a blow out? Both riders had full gear on. Hope both are OK.

I wonder then if road debris gave them a puncture.

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

Niel wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Considering trucks often use that route, I wouldn't be surprised if it was oil or diesel that caused the accident in the first place but then it could also have been road debris.

Given the carp (sp!) state of the M27 in general, your probably right about the debris. The milled sections of concrete don't even conform to the Highways Agency's published standards, where such remedial milling should be TRANSVERSE to the flow, not with it, so keeping it 'clean' and safe is a joke, yet again it's 'out-to-contract'. The debris field at J5 is another bone of contention, that get's bad with much less truck traffic.

As for DERV spill's, that's down to poorly maintained or poorly driven (drivers are responsible for fueling usually) trucks in the main, though buses/coaches and white van man also play a part.

Hope the rider and pillion are ok.

Indeed, don't most motorways actually have tarmac on them these days? Also I hope both rider and pillion recover but I know myself how easily conditions can affect those on 2 wheels, what with me being a cyclist, I also see Torchie (who seems to have a dislike for 2-wheelers in general) seems to have already come out with the "All bikers are the same" trash talk, he does it for cyclists too which makes him a sad person.

I'm only sad for the two wheeled persecution complex that haunts you like the chips on your shoulders.

Torchie1 wrote:

Niel wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Considering trucks often use that route, I wouldn't be surprised if it was oil or diesel that caused the accident in the first place but then it could also have been road debris.

Given the carp (sp!) state of the M27 in general, your probably right about the debris. The milled sections of concrete don't even conform to the Highways Agency's published standards, where such remedial milling should be TRANSVERSE to the flow, not with it, so keeping it 'clean' and safe is a joke, yet again it's 'out-to-contract'. The debris field at J5 is another bone of contention, that get's bad with much less truck traffic.

As for DERV spill's, that's down to poorly maintained or poorly driven (drivers are responsible for fueling usually) trucks in the main, though buses/coaches and white van man also play a part.

Hope the rider and pillion are ok.

One observer notes that trucks often use that route and there was me thinking that trucks used all motorway junctions. Another observation that it's the fault of the road, debris, poorly maintained or driven trucks, buses/coaches, white van man, Uncle Tom Cobley and no suggestion that it could have been the bike or its rider to blame? There was a massive anti truck thread after the death of a motorcyclist in Brockenhurst but little comment about the fact that he chose to overtake on a tiny stretch of straight road bounded by high hedges and between two blind bends. Bikers are fallible, as well as car drivers but sadly they suffer far worse in any sort of collision..

Brilliant post you took the words right out of my mouth, what you must realise is that in todays society their is always somebody else to blame.

ohec wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

Niel wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Considering trucks often use that route, I wouldn't be surprised if it was oil or diesel that caused the accident in the first place but then it could also have been road debris.

Given the carp (sp!) state of the M27 in general, your probably right about the debris. The milled sections of concrete don't even conform to the Highways Agency's published standards, where such remedial milling should be TRANSVERSE to the flow, not with it, so keeping it 'clean' and safe is a joke, yet again it's 'out-to-contract'. The debris field at J5 is another bone of contention, that get's bad with much less truck traffic.

As for DERV spill's, that's down to poorly maintained or poorly driven (drivers are responsible for fueling usually) trucks in the main, though buses/coaches and white van man also play a part.

Hope the rider and pillion are ok.

One observer notes that trucks often use that route and there was me thinking that trucks used all motorway junctions. Another observation that it's the fault of the road, debris, poorly maintained or driven trucks, buses/coaches, white van man, Uncle Tom Cobley and no suggestion that it could have been the bike or its rider to blame? There was a massive anti truck thread after the death of a motorcyclist in Brockenhurst but little comment about the fact that he chose to overtake on a tiny stretch of straight road bounded by high hedges and between two blind bends. Bikers are fallible, as well as car drivers but sadly they suffer far worse in any sort of collision..

Brilliant post you took the words right out of my mouth, what you must realise is that in todays society their is always somebody else to blame.

Which in this case will probably put the people who maintain the motorways at fault.