Police launch new cycle safety campaign (From Daily Echo)

here we go again.....

Trying to educate many of these cyclists is like trying to push water uphill.

Would all motorists now please copy and paste their ill-informed rants and sweeping generalisations in the space provided

I bet someone comes along and states that they all jump red lights, ride on pavements, have no lights and don't pay road tax …....... < runs and hides >

hmw wrote:
Would all motorists now please copy and paste their ill-informed rants and sweeping generalisations in the space provided

Excellent post, I see the echo's main troll Hulla Baloo got in nice and early!

Richard 51 wrote:
I bet someone comes along and states that they all jump red lights, ride on pavements, have no lights and don't pay road tax …....... &lt; runs and hides &gt;

now you have ruined a lot of peoples fun there!

Hang on, don't start yet, I just need to grab some popcorn.

elvisimo wrote:

Richard 51 wrote:
I bet someone comes along and states that they all jump red lights, ride on pavements, have no lights and don't pay road tax …....... &lt; runs and hides &gt;

now you have ruined a lot of peoples fun there!

And if you really want to see red lights ignored by cyclists I suggest University Road's pedestrian crossings and the junction with Burgess Road too... Where the good cyclists are always out numbered by the bicycle (ab)users.

I hope they do something about the electronic sign at the roundabout on saltmarsh road that is meant to warn you if a cyclist is coming down off the bridge, I've only seen it register one cyclist coming down the bridge, it misses all the others and those cycle lanes on the same roundabout are dangerous.

So do I, and everyone else here, Ginger.

In the meantime, why don't you get down there everyday and keep a vigilant eye on things ? You could climb up the sign with a megaphone and make warning announcements when appropriate. There you are, problem solved.

Is that trolling ?

hulla baloo wrote:
Trying to educate many of these cyclists is like trying to push water uphill.

Trust hulla baloo to come out with the old "Trying to educate many of these cyclists is like trying to push water uphill" chestnut.

Is that trolling ?

Niel wrote:

elvisimo wrote:

Richard 51 wrote: I bet someone comes along and states that they all jump red lights, ride on pavements, have no lights and don't pay road tax …....... &lt; runs and hides &gt;

now you have ruined a lot of peoples fun there!

And if you really want to see red lights ignored by cyclists I suggest University Road's pedestrian crossings and the junction with Burgess Road too... Where the good cyclists are always out numbered by the bicycle (ab)users.

yes - thousands of them pouring through the red lights manically laughing.

I see the police are also clamping down on pavement cycling, no lights and drunk/drugged cyclist, that should cut the number of cyclist by half straight away!
Seriously though I think the law on mobile phones should be extended to cover cyclists as they cant be in proper control of their cycle like a motorist, and while we are at it how can they be in touch with the road conditions with earphones in their ears and their hoodie up.
Cue Downdraft and Gingerwinger!

The Prophecy is fulfilled!

geoff51 wrote:
I see the police are also clamping down on pavement cycling, no lights and drunk/drugged cyclist, that should cut the number of cyclist by half straight away!
Seriously though I think the law on mobile phones should be extended to cover cyclists as they cant be in proper control of their cycle like a motorist, and while we are at it how can they be in touch with the road conditions with earphones in their ears and their hoodie up.
Cue Downdraft and Gingerwinger!

Actually, I already know that it is illegal to use the phone while riding a pedal cycle as the law doesn't stipulate as applying to "MOTOR VEHICLES" but it actually says vehicles which also means those without engines, while we're on the subject, I was quite helpful the other day and politely warned a lady about the fine for using a mobile even while in traffic, she then stopped texting, put down the blackberry and thanked me, as for the earphones, I could quite easily say the same **** thing about motorists who I see driving with them in their ears but a hoodie? I could actually understand having a hood up if it's raining and to be honest it isn't much different to a motorcyclist having their full face helmet on, the only difference is a hood sometimes won't move with your head.
Maybe old Geoff the Guff has had his last puff.

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
I see the police are also clamping down on pavement cycling, no lights and drunk/drugged cyclist, that should cut the number of cyclist by half straight away!
Seriously though I think the law on mobile phones should be extended to cover cyclists as they cant be in proper control of their cycle like a motorist, and while we are at it how can they be in touch with the road conditions with earphones in their ears and their hoodie up.
Cue Downdraft and Gingerwinger!

Actually, I already know that it is illegal to use the phone while riding a pedal cycle as the law doesn't stipulate as applying to &quot;MOTOR VEHICLES" but it actually says vehicles which also means those without engines, while we're on the subject, I was quite helpful the other day and politely warned a lady about the fine for using a mobile even while in traffic, she then stopped texting, put down the blackberry and thanked me, as for the earphones, I could quite easily say the same **** thing about motorists who I see driving with them in their ears but a hoodie? I could actually understand having a hood up if it's raining and to be honest it isn't much different to a motorcyclist having their full face helmet on, the only difference is a hood sometimes won't move with your head.
Maybe old Geoff the Guff has had his last puff.

Less of the old Gingerwinger you are getting very boring

geoff51 wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
I see the police are also clamping down on pavement cycling, no lights and drunk/drugged cyclist, that should cut the number of cyclist by half straight away!
Seriously though I think the law on mobile phones should be extended to cover cyclists as they cant be in proper control of their cycle like a motorist, and while we are at it how can they be in touch with the road conditions with earphones in their ears and their hoodie up.
Cue Downdraft and Gingerwinger!

Actually, I already know that it is illegal to use the phone while riding a pedal cycle as the law doesn't stipulate as applying to &quot;MOTOR VEHICLES" but it actually says vehicles which also means those without engines, while we're on the subject, I was quite helpful the other day and politely warned a lady about the fine for using a mobile even while in traffic, she then stopped texting, put down the blackberry and thanked me, as for the earphones, I could quite easily say the same **** thing about motorists who I see driving with them in their ears but a hoodie? I could actually understand having a hood up if it's raining and to be honest it isn't much different to a motorcyclist having their full face helmet on, the only difference is a hood sometimes won't move with your head.
Maybe old Geoff the Guff has had his last puff.

Less of the old Gingerwinger you are getting very boring

Less of the old what Mr Guff?

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
I see the police are also clamping down on pavement cycling, no lights and drunk/drugged cyclist, that should cut the number of cyclist by half straight away!
Seriously though I think the law on mobile phones should be extended to cover cyclists as they cant be in proper control of their cycle like a motorist, and while we are at it how can they be in touch with the road conditions with earphones in their ears and their hoodie up.
Cue Downdraft and Gingerwinger!

Actually, I already know that it is illegal to use the phone while riding a pedal cycle as the law doesn't stipulate as applying to &quot;MOTOR VEHICLES" but it actually says vehicles which also means those without engines, while we're on the subject, I was quite helpful the other day and politely warned a lady about the fine for using a mobile even while in traffic, she then stopped texting, put down the blackberry and thanked me, as for the earphones, I could quite easily say the same **** thing about motorists who I see driving with them in their ears but a hoodie? I could actually understand having a hood up if it's raining and to be honest it isn't much different to a motorcyclist having their full face helmet on, the only difference is a hood sometimes won't move with your head.
Maybe old Geoff the Guff has had his last puff.

Less of the old Gingerwinger you are getting very boring

Less of the old what Mr Guff?

I am not old and I will certainly live longer than you as according to you cyclists are an endangered breed owing to their lifestyle.

there is no law about using a phone when cycling but you could get done for careless cycling.as for the lack of control what about when you signal with your arms then you again only have one hand on the bar ? even the police and pcso's use there mobile's when cycling (with a earpiece) and move the phone nearer to the face when talking.they do not have training to do this,i checked with a police cyclist.as for the speeding red light jumpers try winchester road as the car drivers ignore the signals and block or drive through them.

geoff51 wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

geoff51 wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

geoff51 wrote:
I see the police are also clamping down on pavement cycling, no lights and drunk/drugged cyclist, that should cut the number of cyclist by half straight away!
Seriously though I think the law on mobile phones should be extended to cover cyclists as they cant be in proper control of their cycle like a motorist, and while we are at it how can they be in touch with the road conditions with earphones in their ears and their hoodie up.
Cue Downdraft and Gingerwinger!

Actually, I already know that it is illegal to use the phone while riding a pedal cycle as the law doesn't stipulate as applying to &quot;MOTOR VEHICLES" but it actually says vehicles which also means those without engines, while we're on the subject, I was quite helpful the other day and politely warned a lady about the fine for using a mobile even while in traffic, she then stopped texting, put down the blackberry and thanked me, as for the earphones, I could quite easily say the same **** thing about motorists who I see driving with them in their ears but a hoodie? I could actually understand having a hood up if it's raining and to be honest it isn't much different to a motorcyclist having their full face helmet on, the only difference is a hood sometimes won't move with your head.
Maybe old Geoff the Guff has had his last puff.

Less of the old Gingerwinger you are getting very boring

Less of the old what Mr Guff?

I am not old and I will certainly live longer than you as according to you cyclists are an endangered breed owing to their lifestyle.

Really? You'll live longer than me? Please enlighten me as to how you came by this startling revelation.

teamgreen wrote:
there is no law about using a phone when cycling but you could get done for careless cycling.as for the lack of control what about when you signal with your arms then you again only have one hand on the bar ? even the police and pcso's use there mobile's when cycling (with a earpiece) and move the phone nearer to the face when talking.they do not have training to do this,i checked with a police cyclist.as for the speeding red light jumpers try winchester road as the car drivers ignore the signals and block or drive through them.

No, there isn't a specific law about using a mobile while cycling but I'm pretty sure the law about doing it while driving says that it's illegal when in control of a vehicle, I will check this to be 110% sure though, as for signalling, yes, technically you aren't in full control but it is legal, it's even legal to use hand signals in a car if your indicators are broken but unless a cyclist spends a lot of money on a set of indicators that take up a lot of space on their handle bars then hand signals are best, then again I had a set of rear indicators with a working brake light but they stopped making them and mine broke because they were cheap and also for speeders and red light jumpers, sit outside costa coffee at antelope park, many motorists jump those lights no matter what, often while doing 40 to 50mph even though it's only a 30 zone until you reach the lights outside what used to be the target.

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

teamgreen wrote:
there is no law about using a phone when cycling but you could get done for careless cycling.as for the lack of control what about when you signal with your arms then you again only have one hand on the bar ? even the police and pcso's use there mobile's when cycling (with a earpiece) and move the phone nearer to the face when talking.they do not have training to do this,i checked with a police cyclist.as for the speeding red light jumpers try winchester road as the car drivers ignore the signals and block or drive through them.

No, there isn't a specific law about using a mobile while cycling but I'm pretty sure the law about doing it while driving says that it's illegal when in control of a vehicle, I will check this to be 110% sure though, as for signalling, yes, technically you aren't in full control but it is legal, it's even legal to use hand signals in a car if your indicators are broken but unless a cyclist spends a lot of money on a set of indicators that take up a lot of space on their handle bars then hand signals are best, then again I had a set of rear indicators with a working brake light but they stopped making them and mine broke because they were cheap and also for speeders and red light jumpers, sit outside costa coffee at antelope park, many motorists jump those lights no matter what, often while doing 40 to 50mph even though it's only a 30 zone until you reach the lights outside what used to be the target.

How are you ascertaining their speed?

Georgem wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

teamgreen wrote:
there is no law about using a phone when cycling but you could get done for careless cycling.as for the lack of control what about when you signal with your arms then you again only have one hand on the bar ? even the police and pcso's use there mobile's when cycling (with a earpiece) and move the phone nearer to the face when talking.they do not have training to do this,i checked with a police cyclist.as for the speeding red light jumpers try winchester road as the car drivers ignore the signals and block or drive through them.

No, there isn't a specific law about using a mobile while cycling but I'm pretty sure the law about doing it while driving says that it's illegal when in control of a vehicle, I will check this to be 110% sure though, as for signalling, yes, technically you aren't in full control but it is legal, it's even legal to use hand signals in a car if your indicators are broken but unless a cyclist spends a lot of money on a set of indicators that take up a lot of space on their handle bars then hand signals are best, then again I had a set of rear indicators with a working brake light but they stopped making them and mine broke because they were cheap and also for speeders and red light jumpers, sit outside costa coffee at antelope park, many motorists jump those lights no matter what, often while doing 40 to 50mph even though it's only a 30 zone until you reach the lights outside what used to be the target.

How are you ascertaining their speed?

I use simple measurements and also it's kind of obvious to see if they're going faster than other vehicles and everyone knows they speed along there so they get up the hill on either side a little quicker.