Rhino club in Southampton forced to stop letting in clubbers after 2.30am

The Rhino Club in Southampton

The Rhino Club in Southampton

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Reporter

A Southampton nightclub has been banned from allowing entry to any more revellers after 2.30am because of the number of violent offences there.

Southampton City Council licence bosses ordered that clubbers not be allowed entry to the Rhino nightclub after 2.30am.

Partygoers can stay until 4am but Southampton City Council’s licensing committee decided further steps had to be taken.

Hampshire Police had originally planned to request that the Bedford Place club’s licence be revoked after realising a former club boss had failed to do what was necessary to prevent crime, public nuisance and protect children from harm.

They compiled a 110-page dossier outlining 99 incidents that had taken place in the past year in or around the nightclub, which has previously hosted famous DJs.

Representative of the Waterloo Terrace nightclub, Louis Weston, said many of the incidents were nothing to do with the nightclub.

“When you look at Rhino’s number of incidents, a fair proportion of them are positive matters that really don’t reflect in anyway upon the club,” Mr Weston said.

He outlined incidents logged by police as taking place at the pub which included drug takers being found on or nearby the premises and a member of the public approaching the club with a knife.

Mr Weston added that these were incidents where club staff acted in the public interest but were not related to the club.

In March 2010 hundreds of clubbers were forced to flee the dance floor after a fire broke out at the club after an arsonist, who had previously been barred, torched the building.

Police sergeant Simon Wood told the committee the number of incidents was nearly double those at a similar nearby club, which has double the capacity.

A change of management just a week before the complaint was handed to the city council saw that figure begin to drop.

The new manager, or designated premises supervisor, Stuart Bailey, said he had barred many customers for various incidents.

Sgt Wood said because of the change of management he was looking to reduce the hours of licence rather than revoke it.

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9:06am Sat 6 Oct 12

SotonLad says...

So the police asked for 2am closure after long report and once again the council ignore it. Surely the police have a better idea than the council - they are the ones having to clear up the clubs mess!
So the police asked for 2am closure after long report and once again the council ignore it. Surely the police have a better idea than the council - they are the ones having to clear up the clubs mess! SotonLad
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9:18am Sat 6 Oct 12

Terry_Nutkins says...

Not really. The old boys on the council & brown paper bag brigade have been trying to shut the club for years.

Rhino was always well managed in the past. Strangely, there used to be more trouble in Reflex/formerly the Academy yet the council renewed their license & started quibbling that of the Rhino so the club started a petition. Double standards council. Junk has more problems.

A lot of those incidents are cr*p & just another facet of ill informed policing but don't let facts get in the way of insidious control & questionable marshalling of our streets. We're soon have private security firms the war this country is run & they won't be answerable to anyone. Worrying.
Not really. The old boys on the council & brown paper bag brigade have been trying to shut the club for years. Rhino was always well managed in the past. Strangely, there used to be more trouble in Reflex/formerly the Academy yet the council renewed their license & started quibbling that of the Rhino so the club started a petition. Double standards council. Junk has more problems. A lot of those incidents are cr*p & just another facet of ill informed policing but don't let facts get in the way of insidious control & questionable marshalling of our streets. We're soon have private security firms the war this country is run & they won't be answerable to anyone. Worrying. Terry_Nutkins
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9:18am Sat 6 Oct 12

huckit P says...

What was wrong with clubs closing at 2am? Surely that is late enough for anyone!
What was wrong with clubs closing at 2am? Surely that is late enough for anyone! huckit P
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9:19am Sat 6 Oct 12

userds5050 says...

Where have you got 2am closure from? The police originally wanted their license revoked but it doesn't say anything about 2am closure, just they can't admit anyone after 2.30am
Where have you got 2am closure from? The police originally wanted their license revoked but it doesn't say anything about 2am closure, just they can't admit anyone after 2.30am userds5050
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9:42am Sat 6 Oct 12

chavfreezone says...

That is a picture of Audio. from about 3 years ago,
That is a picture of Audio. from about 3 years ago, chavfreezone
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9:55am Sat 6 Oct 12

SotonLad says...

userds5050 wrote:
Where have you got 2am closure from? The police originally wanted their license revoked but it doesn't say anything about 2am closure, just they can't admit anyone after 2.30am
In the previous story it says police want 2am closure.

http://www.dailyecho
.co.uk/news/9965708.
Nightclub_faces_clos
ing_earlier/

Happy with that, mouth.
[quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: Where have you got 2am closure from? The police originally wanted their license revoked but it doesn't say anything about 2am closure, just they can't admit anyone after 2.30am[/p][/quote]In the previous story it says police want 2am closure. http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/news/9965708. Nightclub_faces_clos ing_earlier/ Happy with that, mouth. SotonLad
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10:45am Sat 6 Oct 12

userds5050 says...

SotonLad wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
Where have you got 2am closure from? The police originally wanted their license revoked but it doesn't say anything about 2am closure, just they can't admit anyone after 2.30am
In the previous story it says police want 2am closure.

http://www.dailyecho

.co.uk/news/9965708.

Nightclub_faces_clos

ing_earlier/

Happy with that, mouth.
Pathetic. I only asked where you got your information from, as it wasn't in the report. I didn't say it wasn't true. Do you answer all questions so petulantly?
[quote][p][bold]SotonLad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: Where have you got 2am closure from? The police originally wanted their license revoked but it doesn't say anything about 2am closure, just they can't admit anyone after 2.30am[/p][/quote]In the previous story it says police want 2am closure. http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/news/9965708. Nightclub_faces_clos ing_earlier/ Happy with that, mouth.[/p][/quote]Pathetic. I only asked where you got your information from, as it wasn't in the report. I didn't say it wasn't true. Do you answer all questions so petulantly? userds5050
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11:08am Sat 6 Oct 12

arthur dalyrimple says...

spoilt little rich kids vomiting all over the place , need a entry surtax to pay for security and cleaning squads in the whole area.
spoilt little rich kids vomiting all over the place , need a entry surtax to pay for security and cleaning squads in the whole area. arthur dalyrimple
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11:19am Sat 6 Oct 12

userds5050 says...

I see the Echo have changed their misleading "Early night" headline.
I see the Echo have changed their misleading "Early night" headline. userds5050
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1:07pm Sat 6 Oct 12

mooky9 says...

Terry_Nutkins wrote:
Not really. The old boys on the council & brown paper bag brigade have been trying to shut the club for years.

Rhino was always well managed in the past. Strangely, there used to be more trouble in Reflex/formerly the Academy yet the council renewed their license & started quibbling that of the Rhino so the club started a petition. Double standards council. Junk has more problems.

A lot of those incidents are cr*p & just another facet of ill informed policing but don't let facts get in the way of insidious control & questionable marshalling of our streets. We're soon have private security firms the war this country is run & they won't be answerable to anyone. Worrying.
Love it, I'll informed policing and the facts point the other way... Prey tell where do you get your facts from, as unless you have some and not your own views I think I'll go with the plod who are actually out there not an armchair critic?
BTW I do believe that some of the issues reported would be to do with all of the other places nearby as there are so many clubs etc in that small rat run...
[quote][p][bold]Terry_Nutkins[/bold] wrote: Not really. The old boys on the council & brown paper bag brigade have been trying to shut the club for years. Rhino was always well managed in the past. Strangely, there used to be more trouble in Reflex/formerly the Academy yet the council renewed their license & started quibbling that of the Rhino so the club started a petition. Double standards council. Junk has more problems. A lot of those incidents are cr*p & just another facet of ill informed policing but don't let facts get in the way of insidious control & questionable marshalling of our streets. We're soon have private security firms the war this country is run & they won't be answerable to anyone. Worrying.[/p][/quote]Love it, I'll informed policing and the facts point the other way... Prey tell where do you get your facts from, as unless you have some and not your own views I think I'll go with the plod who are actually out there not an armchair critic? BTW I do believe that some of the issues reported would be to do with all of the other places nearby as there are so many clubs etc in that small rat run... mooky9
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4:44pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Danniialicia says...

Myself and the girls go to the Rhino every weekend - it has to be said its one of the best places in town where we feel safe - its one of the few under ground clubs left. We are always made to feel safe, the door staff and bar staff are brilliant. Should be open til 6am though
Myself and the girls go to the Rhino every weekend - it has to be said its one of the best places in town where we feel safe - its one of the few under ground clubs left. We are always made to feel safe, the door staff and bar staff are brilliant. Should be open til 6am though Danniialicia
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4:48pm Sat 6 Oct 12

Georgem says...

huckit P wrote:
What was wrong with clubs closing at 2am? Surely that is late enough for anyone!
Why "surely"?
[quote][p][bold]huckit P[/bold] wrote: What was wrong with clubs closing at 2am? Surely that is late enough for anyone![/p][/quote]Why "surely"? Georgem
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10:17pm Sat 6 Oct 12

kingnotail says...

huckit P says...
9:18am Sat 6 Oct 12

What was wrong with clubs closing at 2am? Surely that is late enough for anyone!”

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Ha ha maybe in Southampton, the city that sleeps too much!
huckit P says... 9:18am Sat 6 Oct 12 What was wrong with clubs closing at 2am? Surely that is late enough for anyone!” - Ha ha maybe in Southampton, the city that sleeps too much! kingnotail
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12:43am Sun 7 Oct 12

My boy says...

There are now powers to shut all bars in an area from midnight called an early morning restriction order (EMRO). I say shut all the bars and clubs in the bedford place area at midnight!
The public and businesses can now instigate this so that we don't have to suffer anymore.
The greedy bar owners will have to pay attention now, lets see the council grow some balls or will they wimp out of this again.
Violence at the rhino and in the area, rapes at the orange rooms, vomit, damage, drugs, prostitutes, assaults, and noise just in the last couple of months alone. The police are worse than useless yet they are still ten times more efficient than the council.

Feeble and pathetic, shame on you Southampton Council licencing committee.
There are now powers to shut all bars in an area from midnight called an early morning restriction order (EMRO). I say shut all the bars and clubs in the bedford place area at midnight! The public and businesses can now instigate this so that we don't have to suffer anymore. The greedy bar owners will have to pay attention now, lets see the council grow some balls or will they wimp out of this again. Violence at the rhino and in the area, rapes at the orange rooms, vomit, damage, drugs, prostitutes, assaults, and noise just in the last couple of months alone. The police are worse than useless yet they are still ten times more efficient than the council. Feeble and pathetic, shame on you Southampton Council licencing committee. My boy
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4:11pm Sun 7 Oct 12

navytax11 says...

My boy wrote:
There are now powers to shut all bars in an area from midnight called an early morning restriction order (EMRO). I say shut all the bars and clubs in the bedford place area at midnight!
The public and businesses can now instigate this so that we don't have to suffer anymore.
The greedy bar owners will have to pay attention now, lets see the council grow some balls or will they wimp out of this again.
Violence at the rhino and in the area, rapes at the orange rooms, vomit, damage, drugs, prostitutes, assaults, and noise just in the last couple of months alone. The police are worse than useless yet they are still ten times more efficient than the council.

Feeble and pathetic, shame on you Southampton Council licencing committee.
I don't know who you are, but well said & thank you.

I don't agree that all police are awful, but I am grateful for this comment.
[quote][p][bold]My boy[/bold] wrote: There are now powers to shut all bars in an area from midnight called an early morning restriction order (EMRO). I say shut all the bars and clubs in the bedford place area at midnight! The public and businesses can now instigate this so that we don't have to suffer anymore. The greedy bar owners will have to pay attention now, lets see the council grow some balls or will they wimp out of this again. Violence at the rhino and in the area, rapes at the orange rooms, vomit, damage, drugs, prostitutes, assaults, and noise just in the last couple of months alone. The police are worse than useless yet they are still ten times more efficient than the council. Feeble and pathetic, shame on you Southampton Council licencing committee.[/p][/quote]I don't know who you are, but well said & thank you. I don't agree that all police are awful, but I am grateful for this comment. navytax11
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7:18pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Stuart_Baley says...

I am the Designated Premises Supervisor of Rhino Nightclub and I feel the report above has been constructed to paint a negative picture of our nightclub. As with any leisure facility that operates late into the night, there will always be an element of undesirable clientele and it is my responsibility to ensure that this is controlled and dealt with by my team of door supervisors in a professional manner. The point Mr Weston was making in the article was that there may be more incidents because we deal with problems correctly at Rhino. If we catch someone with drugs, or being violent we WILL call the police, creating another incident, because it is our intention to create a safe environment for the thousands of people that enjoy Rhino Nightclub. This then becomes a ‘positive incident’ because my team are dealing with the issue in the correct manner and helping the police keep our streets safer.

At the review, many more issues were discussed. We have voluntarily upgraded our CCTV system, installed an ID scanner, improved our smoking area and changed our door policy with the intention of operating in such a way that we are working with the police to ensure a safe night out at Rhino.

The Licensing Sub-Committee made a decision on Thursday of last week to allow us to continue to open until 4am based on evidence provided by us and the police which proves that we are pro-active in creating a fun, safe nightclub enjoyed by thousands every week. We are more than happy to close our doors at 2.30am and welcome the outcome of the hearing.
I am the Designated Premises Supervisor of Rhino Nightclub and I feel the report above has been constructed to paint a negative picture of our nightclub. As with any leisure facility that operates late into the night, there will always be an element of undesirable clientele and it is my responsibility to ensure that this is controlled and dealt with by my team of door supervisors in a professional manner. The point Mr Weston was making in the article was that there may be more incidents because we deal with problems correctly at Rhino. If we catch someone with drugs, or being violent we WILL call the police, creating another incident, because it is our intention to create a safe environment for the thousands of people that enjoy Rhino Nightclub. This then becomes a ‘positive incident’ because my team are dealing with the issue in the correct manner and helping the police keep our streets safer. At the review, many more issues were discussed. We have voluntarily upgraded our CCTV system, installed an ID scanner, improved our smoking area and changed our door policy with the intention of operating in such a way that we are working with the police to ensure a safe night out at Rhino. The Licensing Sub-Committee made a decision on Thursday of last week to allow us to continue to open until 4am based on evidence provided by us and the police which proves that we are pro-active in creating a fun, safe nightclub enjoyed by thousands every week. We are more than happy to close our doors at 2.30am and welcome the outcome of the hearing. Stuart_Baley
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