18 years of hell in Bangkok prison (From Daily Echo)

heroin is a death sentence for some. 18 years is better than the death he was trying to dish out. good luck to the guy......

Are we supposed to feel sorry for him?

Sad waste of life... drugs are bad m'kay!

I like the fag in hand shown on his pictures since release! How can he afford cigarettes after being released from prison and blatantly not having a job back here in the UK!? No doubt another scrounger falling straight back into our benefit system! Maybe he could spend that money on his daughter or even his granddaughter he's missed seeing for all that time... scum bag.

You do the crime and do the time. Your sentence is loss of liberty, not loss of human rights.

There is too much injustice in Thai prisons. People are treated inhumanely.

Don't think you are immune to injustice. There are plenty of holidaymakers in Thailand, who have been stitched up with some drugs, so that they either pay a fine or go to prison. It is a completely corrupt country.

saintnick777 wrote:
I like the fag in hand shown on his pictures since release! How can he afford cigarettes after being released from prison and blatantly not having a job back here in the UK!? No doubt another scrounger falling straight back into our benefit system! Maybe he could spend that money on his daughter or even his granddaughter he's missed seeing for all that time... scum bag.

How dare he do anything, eh. Look at him, showing off with his clothes! I bet he's even got matching shoes. Disgusting. He should be eating cold mud, naked, in a gutter, right?

He has got matching shoes! What a sponger! etc

LossOfLibertyNotLife wrote:
You do the crime and do the time. Your sentence is loss of liberty, not loss of human rights.

There is too much injustice in Thai prisons. People are treated inhumanely.

Don't think you are immune to injustice. There are plenty of holidaymakers in Thailand, who have been stitched up with some drugs, so that they either pay a fine or go to prison. It is a completely corrupt country.

Good post. Too many people think anyone who steps out of line at all, anywhere, instantly sacrifices all their rights forever.

Shoong wrote:
Are we supposed to feel sorry for him?

Not the sensible amongst us.
But....Theres always a few isn,t there??
Will probably get a few quid for his "heart rending" story, tho'

Good read, like one of the 'banged up abroad' programmes which I enjoy. He should get onto them about doing one for his story, maybe get few bob out of it.

Sitting in a Pub in Holbury? Rather do another 18 years!

Don't point out the splinter of wood in someone's eye when you have a log in yours.......!!!

We all make mistakes and pay for them.

The secret is to learn from your mistakes, and hopefully live a better, and more productive life.

sameoldscene wrote:
Sitting in a Pub in Holbury? Rather do another 18 years!

LMAO !

ToastyTea wrote:
Good read, like one of the 'banged up abroad' programmes which I enjoy. He should get onto them about doing one for his story, maybe get few bob out of it.

why should he make money? he is a convicted criminal.
As already mentioned he is probably on benefit now at the expense of law abiding tax payers, makes you laugh.

boilerman wrote:

ToastyTea wrote:
Good read, like one of the 'banged up abroad' programmes which I enjoy. He should get onto them about doing one for his story, maybe get few bob out of it.

why should he make money? he is a convicted criminal.
As already mentioned he is probably on benefit now at the expense of law abiding tax payers, makes you laugh.

So criminals aren't allowed to earn money? Ok, that'll solve the problem.

Id rather not read such tripe thanks The Echo. This guy done wrong - very very wrong - in a County that treats criminals as they should be - unlinke the UK 'oh you've just commited a serious crime so here's your room for the next (however long) all fit with sky tv, games, pocket money once a week and superb food 3 times a day'. All paid for by those who stick to the law and work hard each day. 18 years is nothing for this crime - I have struggled with money as I expect we all have - it dosent open a road where we exchange a few quid for such awul drugs which will end up killing people. Send him back for 32 years I say and let that act as a warning to other people who smuggle drugs. We don't like your type and we don't want you breathing the air we do! Go for it Tai prisons and teach the UK Government how to punish people rather than reward them! Grrrrrr! I bet his daughter is well proud of him - here's my Daddy everyone - aproud drug dealer whose just spent 18 years in prison.

I live in Thailand and know if I carried drug's of nearly 2 kg I would be in prison for the rest of my life. 30Gram or over near a border is death sentence for Thais. So you got off well considering. Maybe you should have just killed your Mrs and got out early. You should be thankful of the royal pardon here. I understand we all make mistakes but do the crime do the time. You learned the hardest way.

sameoldscene wrote:
Sitting in a Pub in Holbury? Rather do another 18 years!

LOL excellent!

LossOfLibertyNotLife wrote:
You do the crime and do the time. Your sentence is loss of liberty, not loss of human rights.

There is too much injustice in Thai prisons. People are treated inhumanely.

Don't think you are immune to injustice. There are plenty of holidaymakers in Thailand, who have been stitched up with some drugs, so that they either pay a fine or go to prison. It is a completely corrupt country.

you are clearly not a mother or father? Would you want this guy supplying drugs to one of your kids? No Id hope is the answer - get a grip - this guy attempted to do a very very wrong and illegal act and he got caught!

Ohh its was only a few lb of one of the worst drugs ever - so because you have rights - there's a cosy room, with biscuits and tea and because you look so lovely we've chucked in an en suite for sole use. NO.... stick him in a cell with nothing - feed him gruel and bread and make him work hard each and every day with NO wages. He didn't think of '''''human life''''''' when he attempted his act - so why the hell should he be treated like anything other than the bad awful person he is! Absolute scum of the earth.

Stupid thing to have done, but when desperate we can all make silly mistakes. Fair play he admitted he was wrong, so hope all goes well for him. I so glad that I am surrounded in the Echo area by so many people who are mightier than the Almighty!

boilerman wrote:

ToastyTea wrote: Good read, like one of the 'banged up abroad' programmes which I enjoy. He should get onto them about doing one for his story, maybe get few bob out of it.

why should he make money? he is a convicted criminal. As already mentioned he is probably on benefit now at the expense of law abiding tax payers, makes you laugh.

Why not. If he can he might aswell, the tv show will probably pay for his story so go for it I say, get on TV while you're at it :)
He's done his time, what more do you want.

I cannot believe he wouldnt have got parol if he had come back here after 4 years,crazy decision,at least you would have decent conditions.

Ummmm he has done his time.
Drugs are despicable and he deserved to be punished severely. Well he has been punished.
He now has the right to rebuild his life, hopefully pay his way and not rely on the state which he has stated in this interview.
I love the cyber jurys on here.

He paid a harsh price for a harsh crime and used his time as constructively as possible by the sounds of it.

He's one of us and now it's right that our country should help him get back on his feet.

It' better to be supportive, not kick a man when he's down after having served his punishment which was far worse than our own laws would have dished out.

I used to live in Thailand and can tell you they look for people who have fallen on hard times. They then tempt them to carry drugs across a border but the police have been tipped off. This makes the arrest rates look good to the West so they pretend they are cracking down on what is a major source of income to them and basis of major bribery. The entire government is corrupt. The drugs get handed back to the dealers and everyones a winner. Apart from the ones stitched up and doing time.

He wasn't a dealer merely a daft runner.

LeeB1900 wrote:

LossOfLibertyNotLife wrote:
You do the crime and do the time. Your sentence is loss of liberty, not loss of human rights.

There is too much injustice in Thai prisons. People are treated inhumanely.

Don't think you are immune to injustice. There are plenty of holidaymakers in Thailand, who have been stitched up with some drugs, so that they either pay a fine or go to prison. It is a completely corrupt country.

you are clearly not a mother or father? Would you want this guy supplying drugs to one of your kids? No Id hope is the answer - get a grip - this guy attempted to do a very very wrong and illegal act and he got caught!

Ohh its was only a few lb of one of the worst drugs ever - so because you have rights - there's a cosy room, with biscuits and tea and because you look so lovely we've chucked in an en suite for sole use. NO.... stick him in a cell with nothing - feed him gruel and bread and make him work hard each and every day with NO wages. He didn't think of '''''human life''''''' when he attempted his act - so why the hell should he be treated like anything other than the bad awful person he is! Absolute scum of the earth.

"The children!" Instant win!

boilerman wrote:

ToastyTea wrote:
Good read, like one of the 'banged up abroad' programmes which I enjoy. He should get onto them about doing one for his story, maybe get few bob out of it.

why should he make money? he is a convicted criminal.
As already mentioned he is probably on benefit now at the expense of law abiding tax payers, makes you laugh.

The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 states that, for most people, a sentence should not have to 'stay with them for life'. Depending on your sentence, most cautions and convictions eventually become 'spent'. Once your conviction is spent it's as if you never committed any offence in the first place. Hence why people with criminal records can join the police force.

I'm sure he is on benefits at the moment but as a convicted criminal with an unspent conviction, in a country with a lack of available employment what exactly do you want him to do (aside from not make money)? He is, after all a British citizen.

What makes me laugh is that you think tax payers are law-abiding, something like 9million people in this country have a criminal record, thats roughly 15% of the population!

A very interesting article, I think his story would serve as a deterrent to people tempted to make a quick buck from carrying a bag for someone.

Poor sod!

He only went out there for the crack!

COME ON - TELL US ABOUT THE LADYBOYS!

mbetts wrote:
Poor sod! He only went out there for the crack!

Very good !!!

Best so far.................
.......

Knowing the family as I do, they'll be saying that God let our Johnny out of prison!!!!!

Hah... ... He carried drugs... ... He deserved what he got!! DRUGS KILL. Simple. There should be NO pardons!!!!! A sentence is a sentence. Simple as that!!!!!

Georgem wrote:

LossOfLibertyNotLife wrote: You do the crime and do the time. Your sentence is loss of liberty, not loss of human rights. There is too much injustice in Thai prisons. People are treated inhumanely. Don't think you are immune to injustice. There are plenty of holidaymakers in Thailand, who have been stitched up with some drugs, so that they either pay a fine or go to prison. It is a completely corrupt country.

Good post. Too many people think anyone who steps out of line at all, anywhere, instantly sacrifices all their rights forever.

There are some crimes committed which would rob the victim of their human right to live a decent life... punishment as harsh as this would be fitting for such crimes.

saintinpattaya wrote:
I live in Thailand and know if I carried drug's of nearly 2 kg I would be in prison for the rest of my life. 30Gram or over near a border is death sentence for Thais. So you got off well considering. Maybe you should have just killed your Mrs and got out early. You should be thankful of the royal pardon here. I understand we all make mistakes but do the crime do the time. You learned the hardest way.

can we start a saints supporters club in pattaya ?

Georgem wrote:

LossOfLibertyNotLife wrote: You do the crime and do the time. Your sentence is loss of liberty, not loss of human rights. There is too much injustice in Thai prisons. People are treated inhumanely. Don't think you are immune to injustice. There are plenty of holidaymakers in Thailand, who have been stitched up with some drugs, so that they either pay a fine or go to prison. It is a completely corrupt country.

Good post. Too many people think anyone who steps out of line at all, anywhere, instantly sacrifices all their rights forever.

steps out of line!! get a grip u weirdo, u were on here sticking up for peado's not so long ago.
truth is it would have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed.

LeeB1900 wrote:
Id rather not read such tripe thanks The Echo. This guy done wrong - very very wrong - in a County that treats criminals as they should be - unlinke the UK 'oh you've just commited a serious crime so here's your room for the next (however long) all fit with sky tv, games, pocket money once a week and superb food 3 times a day'. All paid for by those who stick to the law and work hard each day. 18 years is nothing for this crime - I have struggled with money as I expect we all have - it dosent open a road where we exchange a few quid for such awul drugs which will end up killing people. Send him back for 32 years I say and let that act as a warning to other people who smuggle drugs. We don't like your type and we don't want you breathing the air we do! Go for it Tai prisons and teach the UK Government how to punish people rather than reward them! Grrrrrr! I bet his daughter is well proud of him - here's my Daddy everyone - aproud drug dealer whose just spent 18 years in prison.

Id rather not read such tripe thanks The Echo.

Err, don't read it then.

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

Georgem wrote:

LossOfLibertyNotLife wrote: You do the crime and do the time. Your sentence is loss of liberty, not loss of human rights. There is too much injustice in Thai prisons. People are treated inhumanely. Don't think you are immune to injustice. There are plenty of holidaymakers in Thailand, who have been stitched up with some drugs, so that they either pay a fine or go to prison. It is a completely corrupt country.

Good post. Too many people think anyone who steps out of line at all, anywhere, instantly sacrifices all their rights forever.

steps out of line!! get a grip u weirdo, u were on here sticking up for peado's not so long ago. truth is it would have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed.

And how would it have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed?

Paint yourself as an idiot, but don't try dragging anyone else with you please.

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

Georgem wrote:

LossOfLibertyNotLife wrote: You do the crime and do the time. Your sentence is loss of liberty, not loss of human rights. There is too much injustice in Thai prisons. People are treated inhumanely. Don't think you are immune to injustice. There are plenty of holidaymakers in Thailand, who have been stitched up with some drugs, so that they either pay a fine or go to prison. It is a completely corrupt country.

Good post. Too many people think anyone who steps out of line at all, anywhere, instantly sacrifices all their rights forever.

steps out of line!! get a grip u weirdo, u were on here sticking up for peado's not so long ago.
truth is it would have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed.

You sound like a clever and reasonable chap, where did you do your degree?

saintnick777 wrote:
I like the fag in hand shown on his pictures since release! How can he afford cigarettes after being released from prison and blatantly not having a job back here in the UK!? No doubt another scrounger falling straight back into our benefit system! Maybe he could spend that money on his daughter or even his granddaughter he's missed seeing for all that time... scum bag.

No you're the scum bag. Maybe someone gave him the cig. Maybe he's got an advance on a future book deal. I'd read it. His life sounds a hell of a lot more interesting than yours. Do one.

Good luck to the fella. Paid the price for doing what he did now enjoy the time with your family :-)

LeeB1900 wrote:
Id rather not read such tripe thanks The Echo. This guy done wrong - very very wrong - in a County that treats criminals as they should be - unlinke the UK 'oh you've just commited a serious crime so here's your room for the next (however long) all fit with sky tv, games, pocket money once a week and superb food 3 times a day'. All paid for by those who stick to the law and work hard each day. 18 years is nothing for this crime - I have struggled with money as I expect we all have - it dosent open a road where we exchange a few quid for such awul drugs which will end up killing people. Send him back for 32 years I say and let that act as a warning to other people who smuggle drugs. We don't like your type and we don't want you breathing the air we do! Go for it Tai prisons and teach the UK Government how to punish people rather than reward them! Grrrrrr! I bet his daughter is well proud of him - here's my Daddy everyone - aproud drug dealer whose just spent 18 years in prison.

Don't read it then.

S!monOn wrote:

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

Georgem wrote:

LossOfLibertyNotLife wrote: You do the crime and do the time. Your sentence is loss of liberty, not loss of human rights. There is too much injustice in Thai prisons. People are treated inhumanely. Don't think you are immune to injustice. There are plenty of holidaymakers in Thailand, who have been stitched up with some drugs, so that they either pay a fine or go to prison. It is a completely corrupt country.

Good post. Too many people think anyone who steps out of line at all, anywhere, instantly sacrifices all their rights forever.

steps out of line!! get a grip u weirdo, u were on here sticking up for peado's not so long ago. truth is it would have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed.

And how would it have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed? Paint yourself as an idiot, but don't try dragging anyone else with you please.

you might be happy to keep the loser with your taxes but i think anyone who tries to kill others through their own greed deserves nothing.

Whilst I agree that his crime is terrible, the fact that he would have served a sentence 4 times longer than a convicted murderer in the Uk is appauling. I think the Uk should bring in similar punishments for murderers and child abusers etc, and take a leaf out of Thailands book. People may think twice about commiting crimes if they are having to share a cell with 17 other men with no other ammenitys. The number of stories I have read where people would prefer to return to prison as its easier than their current lives. Also it would save tax payers a fortune.

He did the crime AND the time, let him get on with the remainder of his life, no doubt he has learnt his lesson....

Georgem wrote:

saintnick777 wrote:
I like the fag in hand shown on his pictures since release! How can he afford cigarettes after being released from prison and blatantly not having a job back here in the UK!? No doubt another scrounger falling straight back into our benefit system! Maybe he could spend that money on his daughter or even his granddaughter he's missed seeing for all that time... scum bag.

How dare he do anything, eh. Look at him, showing off with his clothes! I bet he's even got matching shoes. Disgusting. He should be eating cold mud, naked, in a gutter, right?

the clothes were actually given to him by his brother< god forbid that you should do anything wrong!!! he has done the time for his crime, instead of calling him scum what about the so called justice system in this country were if you drive recklessly and kill a person you only get twelve mths or better still community service, or kill an animal you get a fine!!!

likewatchingbrazil,

Just interested in your thoughts on anyone who tries to kill others through greed.
The Tory party? Capitalists? Board directors? Bankers? In fact everyone in the west who relies on the death and oppression of everyone in the global south to maintain our lifestyles.
Hypocrite.

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

Georgem wrote:

LossOfLibertyNotLife wrote: You do the crime and do the time. Your sentence is loss of liberty, not loss of human rights. There is too much injustice in Thai prisons. People are treated inhumanely. Don't think you are immune to injustice. There are plenty of holidaymakers in Thailand, who have been stitched up with some drugs, so that they either pay a fine or go to prison. It is a completely corrupt country.

Good post. Too many people think anyone who steps out of line at all, anywhere, instantly sacrifices all their rights forever.

steps out of line!! get a grip u weirdo, u were on here sticking up for peado's not so long ago.
truth is it would have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed.

What's a peado? Some kind of vegetable?

wheels321 wrote:

Georgem wrote:

saintnick777 wrote:
I like the fag in hand shown on his pictures since release! How can he afford cigarettes after being released from prison and blatantly not having a job back here in the UK!? No doubt another scrounger falling straight back into our benefit system! Maybe he could spend that money on his daughter or even his granddaughter he's missed seeing for all that time... scum bag.

How dare he do anything, eh. Look at him, showing off with his clothes! I bet he's even got matching shoes. Disgusting. He should be eating cold mud, naked, in a gutter, right?

the clothes were actually given to him by his brother&lt; god forbid that you should do anything wrong!!! he has done the time for his crime, instead of calling him scum what about the so called justice system in this country were if you drive recklessly and kill a person you only get twelve mths or better still community service, or kill an animal you get a fine!!!

I was being sarcastic, in light of the post I was replying to.

St Retford wrote:
COME ON - TELL US ABOUT THE LADYBOYS!

Fascinating creatures. I don't find them attractive, it's just confusing.

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

S!monOn wrote:

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

Georgem wrote:

LossOfLibertyNotLife wrote: You do the crime and do the time. Your sentence is loss of liberty, not loss of human rights. There is too much injustice in Thai prisons. People are treated inhumanely. Don't think you are immune to injustice. There are plenty of holidaymakers in Thailand, who have been stitched up with some drugs, so that they either pay a fine or go to prison. It is a completely corrupt country.

Good post. Too many people think anyone who steps out of line at all, anywhere, instantly sacrifices all their rights forever.

steps out of line!! get a grip u weirdo, u were on here sticking up for peado's not so long ago. truth is it would have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed.

And how would it have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed? Paint yourself as an idiot, but don't try dragging anyone else with you please.

you might be happy to keep the loser with your taxes but i think anyone who tries to kill others through their own greed deserves nothing.

Who did he try and kill? Amaze us with your fascinating insights, plucked straight from the pages of the Daily Star.

wheels321 wrote:

Georgem wrote:

saintnick777 wrote:
I like the fag in hand shown on his pictures since release! How can he afford cigarettes after being released from prison and blatantly not having a job back here in the UK!? No doubt another scrounger falling straight back into our benefit system! Maybe he could spend that money on his daughter or even his granddaughter he's missed seeing for all that time... scum bag.

How dare he do anything, eh. Look at him, showing off with his clothes! I bet he's even got matching shoes. Disgusting. He should be eating cold mud, naked, in a gutter, right?

the clothes were actually given to him by his brother&lt; god forbid that you should do anything wrong!!! he has done the time for his crime, instead of calling him scum what about the so called justice system in this country were if you drive recklessly and kill a person you only get twelve mths or better still community service, or kill an animal you get a fine!!!

Kill an animal in Thailand and you get...... DINNER!

sameoldscene wrote:
Sitting in a Pub in Holbury? Rather do another 18 years!

Classic, pmsl

Georgem wrote:

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

S!monOn wrote:

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

Georgem wrote:

LossOfLibertyNotLife wrote: You do the crime and do the time. Your sentence is loss of liberty, not loss of human rights. There is too much injustice in Thai prisons. People are treated inhumanely. Don't think you are immune to injustice. There are plenty of holidaymakers in Thailand, who have been stitched up with some drugs, so that they either pay a fine or go to prison. It is a completely corrupt country.

Good post. Too many people think anyone who steps out of line at all, anywhere, instantly sacrifices all their rights forever.

steps out of line!! get a grip u weirdo, u were on here sticking up for peado's not so long ago. truth is it would have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed.

And how would it have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed? Paint yourself as an idiot, but don't try dragging anyone else with you please.

you might be happy to keep the loser with your taxes but i think anyone who tries to kill others through their own greed deserves nothing.

Who did he try and kill? Amaze us with your fascinating insights, plucked straight from the pages of the Daily Star.

my mistake people don't die using heroin do they, how thick are you?

peenut81 wrote:
likewatchingbrazil, Just interested in your thoughts on anyone who tries to kill others through greed. The Tory party? Capitalists? Board directors? Bankers? In fact everyone in the west who relies on the death and oppression of everyone in the global south to maintain our lifestyles. Hypocrite.

you fool

Georgem wrote:

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

S!monOn wrote:

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

Georgem wrote:

LossOfLibertyNotLife wrote: You do the crime and do the time. Your sentence is loss of liberty, not loss of human rights. There is too much injustice in Thai prisons. People are treated inhumanely. Don't think you are immune to injustice. There are plenty of holidaymakers in Thailand, who have been stitched up with some drugs, so that they either pay a fine or go to prison. It is a completely corrupt country.

Good post. Too many people think anyone who steps out of line at all, anywhere, instantly sacrifices all their rights forever.

steps out of line!! get a grip u weirdo, u were on here sticking up for peado's not so long ago. truth is it would have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed.

And how would it have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed? Paint yourself as an idiot, but don't try dragging anyone else with you please.

you might be happy to keep the loser with your taxes but i think anyone who tries to kill others through their own greed deserves nothing.

Who did he try and kill? Amaze us with your fascinating insights, plucked straight from the pages of the Daily Star.

He's obviously been smoking too much of the wacko tobacco... lost a few brain cells.

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

Georgem wrote:

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

S!monOn wrote:

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

Georgem wrote:

LossOfLibertyNotLife wrote: You do the crime and do the time. Your sentence is loss of liberty, not loss of human rights. There is too much injustice in Thai prisons. People are treated inhumanely. Don't think you are immune to injustice. There are plenty of holidaymakers in Thailand, who have been stitched up with some drugs, so that they either pay a fine or go to prison. It is a completely corrupt country.

Good post. Too many people think anyone who steps out of line at all, anywhere, instantly sacrifices all their rights forever.

steps out of line!! get a grip u weirdo, u were on here sticking up for peado's not so long ago. truth is it would have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed.

And how would it have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed? Paint yourself as an idiot, but don't try dragging anyone else with you please.

you might be happy to keep the loser with your taxes but i think anyone who tries to kill others through their own greed deserves nothing.

Who did he try and kill? Amaze us with your fascinating insights, plucked straight from the pages of the Daily Star.

my mistake people don't die using heroin do they, how thick are you?

A lot less thick than you, clearly. More people DON'T die using heroin, than do. By orders of magnitude.

According to your, err, let's call it logic, car salesmen are aslo killing people through greed. After all, people get killed in cars all the time.

Time to stop salivating over tabloids, and get educated, me old chum.

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

peenut81 wrote:
likewatchingbrazil, Just interested in your thoughts on anyone who tries to kill others through greed. The Tory party? Capitalists? Board directors? Bankers? In fact everyone in the west who relies on the death and oppression of everyone in the global south to maintain our lifestyles. Hypocrite.

you fool

I liked the bit where you're incapable of communicating in anything other than dumb insults.

dont smuggle drugs then.you naughty man

Georgem wrote:

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

Georgem wrote:

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

S!monOn wrote:

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

Georgem wrote:

LossOfLibertyNotLife wrote: You do the crime and do the time. Your sentence is loss of liberty, not loss of human rights. There is too much injustice in Thai prisons. People are treated inhumanely. Don't think you are immune to injustice. There are plenty of holidaymakers in Thailand, who have been stitched up with some drugs, so that they either pay a fine or go to prison. It is a completely corrupt country.

Good post. Too many people think anyone who steps out of line at all, anywhere, instantly sacrifices all their rights forever.

steps out of line!! get a grip u weirdo, u were on here sticking up for peado's not so long ago. truth is it would have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed.

And how would it have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed? Paint yourself as an idiot, but don't try dragging anyone else with you please.

you might be happy to keep the loser with your taxes but i think anyone who tries to kill others through their own greed deserves nothing.

Who did he try and kill? Amaze us with your fascinating insights, plucked straight from the pages of the Daily Star.

my mistake people don't die using heroin do they, how thick are you?

A lot less thick than you, clearly. More people DON'T die using heroin, than do. By orders of magnitude. According to your, err, let's call it logic, car salesmen are aslo killing people through greed. After all, people get killed in cars all the time. Time to stop salivating over tabloids, and get educated, me old chum.

whats aslo some place in norway!!

Georgem wrote:

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

peenut81 wrote: likewatchingbrazil, Just interested in your thoughts on anyone who tries to kill others through greed. The Tory party? Capitalists? Board directors? Bankers? In fact everyone in the west who relies on the death and oppression of everyone in the global south to maintain our lifestyles. Hypocrite.

you fool

I liked the bit where you're incapable of communicating in anything other than dumb insults.

hypocrite!!

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

Georgem wrote:

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

peenut81 wrote: likewatchingbrazil, Just interested in your thoughts on anyone who tries to kill others through greed. The Tory party? Capitalists? Board directors? Bankers? In fact everyone in the west who relies on the death and oppression of everyone in the global south to maintain our lifestyles. Hypocrite.

you fool

I liked the bit where you're incapable of communicating in anything other than dumb insults.

hypocrite!!

The defence rests.

Georgem wrote:

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

Georgem wrote:

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

peenut81 wrote: likewatchingbrazil, Just interested in your thoughts on anyone who tries to kill others through greed. The Tory party? Capitalists? Board directors? Bankers? In fact everyone in the west who relies on the death and oppression of everyone in the global south to maintain our lifestyles. Hypocrite.

you fool

I liked the bit where you're incapable of communicating in anything other than dumb insults.

hypocrite!!

The defence rests.

read before you write old chum!

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

Georgem wrote:

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

S!monOn wrote:

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

Georgem wrote:

LossOfLibertyNotLife wrote: You do the crime and do the time. Your sentence is loss of liberty, not loss of human rights. There is too much injustice in Thai prisons. People are treated inhumanely. Don't think you are immune to injustice. There are plenty of holidaymakers in Thailand, who have been stitched up with some drugs, so that they either pay a fine or go to prison. It is a completely corrupt country.

Good post. Too many people think anyone who steps out of line at all, anywhere, instantly sacrifices all their rights forever.

steps out of line!! get a grip u weirdo, u were on here sticking up for peado's not so long ago. truth is it would have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed.

And how would it have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed? Paint yourself as an idiot, but don't try dragging anyone else with you please.

you might be happy to keep the loser with your taxes but i think anyone who tries to kill others through their own greed deserves nothing.

Who did he try and kill? Amaze us with your fascinating insights, plucked straight from the pages of the Daily Star.

my mistake people don't die using heroin do they, how thick are you?

Best Maily Echo story in a long time.
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Such a shame about the torch-and-pitchfork brigade. Don't worry guys, humanity might catch up with you one day.

I have a few dreams too....but I don't smuggle drugs in attempt to achieve them! No sympathy!

it comes to something when a known criminal gets the headlines shame on you echo he should be locked up for longer

I am 11 years of age this is my grandad (uncle) i was named after him he is a great man although he has done a thew bad things in the past

Look at this fellow's eyes...compare with the photo on his motorbike. He's paid big big style, shame pedophiles,rapists and murder's don't look like this when they come out of a brit jail far TOO early. He done wrong ok but this guy has paid his
debt way beyond what is sane. The ones who love too criticise!! have you never speeded in your car? or driven when your maybe just a unit over?. We all have,(35mph in a 30 limit can kill instead of maim leading to prison for careless driving) but by the grace of god we never run over a child at the time..that would mean Jail guilt and shame for you and your family. Give Johnny a break!!!

lisaduf wrote:
I am 11 years of age this is my grandad (uncle) i was named after him he is a great man although he has done a thew bad things in the past

fairplay dude

RadicalEmu wrote:

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

Georgem wrote:

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

S!monOn wrote:

likewatchingbrazil wrote:

Georgem wrote:

LossOfLibertyNotLife wrote: You do the crime and do the time. Your sentence is loss of liberty, not loss of human rights. There is too much injustice in Thai prisons. People are treated inhumanely. Don't think you are immune to injustice. There are plenty of holidaymakers in Thailand, who have been stitched up with some drugs, so that they either pay a fine or go to prison. It is a completely corrupt country.

Good post. Too many people think anyone who steps out of line at all, anywhere, instantly sacrifices all their rights forever.

steps out of line!! get a grip u weirdo, u were on here sticking up for peado's not so long ago. truth is it would have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed.

And how would it have been better all round if the death penalty had been imposed? Paint yourself as an idiot, but don't try dragging anyone else with you please.

you might be happy to keep the loser with your taxes but i think anyone who tries to kill others through their own greed deserves nothing.

Who did he try and kill? Amaze us with your fascinating insights, plucked straight from the pages of the Daily Star.

my mistake people don't die using heroin do they, how thick are you?

Best Maily Echo story in a long time.
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Such a shame about the torch-and-pitchfork brigade. Don't worry guys, humanity might catch up with you one day.

Nic one Bro

Best Maily Echo story in a long time.
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Such a shame about the torch-and-pitchfork brigade. Don't worry guys, humanity might catch up with you one day.

Wow, fantastic story! Very interesting. Shame about the ridiculous comments after though.

There are some really awful people who comment on story on here, who ruin it for the rest of us who could have a genuine discussion!

To all the people on here calling for Thai style prisons and sentences in the UK, well seeing as you are so willing to throw away your personal freedoms then I truly hope that should the dark day ever come whereby our justice system goes back to the wonderful days of the 19th century, that it is you and your loved ones who receive life shattering sentences for small crimes and not the rest of us who are glad we live in a civilised society.

St Retford wrote:
COME ON - TELL US ABOUT THE LADYBOYS!

you're a sad moron retford

Well, there certainly seems to be a little of a tone of sympathy seeking from this story. I, personally, have no sympathy with the guy, myself. I have to say 'though, that I'm not a bit surprised that he has his fans, including on this website. The plain fact is that the penalties for such crimes are extremely seriously tough in these countries (were even when he committed the crime) and no one need have ever doubted that this was common knowlege.

The fact that the deadly poisonous cr@p he'd have smuggled abroad, had he been successful of course, would have utterly ruined many very young lives alone, quite probably have caused - if indirectly - some deaths too, but certainly at the very least immense pain for the victims and their families too, seems to have been completely ignored by more that a few fighting his corner on here.

Anyway, don't fret you folks who are looking out for him. I don't doubt that he's about to bring out a book quite soon, maybe even get a half decent serialisation deal with a newspaper too, then there will be the t.v. and radio interviews. Also, we can be sure that an invitation to participate in the t.v. series 'Banged up Abroad' will be on the cards too... All of which, I'm sure will see him through the 'hard times' for a while.

But what I do think would be a positive move for our society in general, and for this guy too, would be for him to, say, tour schools, colleges, Universities, prisons etc, telling his story, 'no holds barred' - but crucially free of charge - and I think this could be extremely valuable. He'd certainly get some respect from me if he took that approach.

Scrutinizer wrote:
Well, there certainly seems to be a little of a tone of sympathy seeking from this story. I, personally, have no sympathy with the guy, myself. I have to say 'though, that I'm not a bit surprised that he has his fans, including on this website. The plain fact is that the penalties for such crimes are extremely seriously tough in these countries (were even when he committed the crime) and no one need have ever doubted that this was common knowlege.

The fact that the deadly poisonous cr@p he'd have smuggled abroad, had he been successful of course, would have utterly ruined many very young lives alone, quite probably have caused - if indirectly - some deaths too, but certainly at the very least immense pain for the victims and their families too, seems to have been completely ignored by more that a few fighting his corner on here.

Anyway, don't fret you folks who are looking out for him. I don't doubt that he's about to bring out a book quite soon, maybe even get a half decent serialisation deal with a newspaper too, then there will be the t.v. and radio interviews. Also, we can be sure that an invitation to participate in the t.v. series 'Banged up Abroad' will be on the cards too... All of which, I'm sure will see him through the 'hard times' for a while.

But what I do think would be a positive move for our society in general, and for this guy too, would be for him to, say, tour schools, colleges, Universities, prisons etc, telling his story, 'no holds barred' - but crucially free of charge - and I think this could be extremely valuable. He'd certainly get some respect from me if he took that approach.

Well I'm sure that after 18 years in a notorious foreign prison, what he's really looking for is the respect of some random person on the internet.

the scum bags are the knockers on this page, he made a mistake, he did his time, i wish you well johnathan and a happy future, good luck 2u !!

sasmike wrote:
the scum bags are the knockers on this page, he made a mistake, he did his time, i wish you well johnathan and a happy future, good luck 2u !!

Amen to that. Reminds me of a remarkably relevant quote from a remarkably relevant film, Midnight Express.

"I just wish for once that you could be in my shoes, Mr. Prosecutor, and then you would know something that you don't know: mercy! That the concept of a society is based on the quality of that mercy; its sense of fair play; its sense of justice! But I guess that's like asking a bear to shit in the toilet."

I don't think this is a story asking people to judge one way or another. Merely to read it and find it an interesting tale. Can we try not judging just one single thing on here?

Makes you wonder if this is the dailymail website sometimes with the morons commenting. All the best to this guy and unlucky getting caught, just trying to do people a favour.

St Retford wrote:
I don't think this is a story asking people to judge one way or another. Merely to read it and find it an interesting tale. Can we try not judging just one single thing on here?

I agree, I didn't see anything in the story condemning the guy, or commending him, or asking for sympathy, or anything. Very unbiased and factual reporting, if you ask me.

The moral of the story is:-

IF YOU CAN'T DO THE TIME,

DON'T DO THE CRIME.

He is lucky to still be alive. Many of the heroin addicts that he was prepared to supply would be dead, years ago.

Linesman wrote:
The moral of the story is:- IF YOU CAN'T DO THE TIME, DON'T DO THE CRIME. He is lucky to still be alive. Many of the heroin addicts that he was prepared to supply would be dead, years ago.

Yep. Well said. My sentiments entirely.

Linesman wrote:
The moral of the story is:-

IF YOU CAN'T DO THE TIME,

DON'T DO THE CRIME.

He is lucky to still be alive. Many of the heroin addicts that he was prepared to supply would be dead, years ago.

He DID do the time. Did you even read the story?

So why all this sympathy/empathy and support for the guy? I just don't get it. Why not put the emphasis on the nature of his crime, as an extremely serious action, and the (very likely) deadly effects for the victims of the dope he was carrying, had he been successful with his smuggling?

ToastyTea wrote:
Makes you wonder if this is the dailymail website sometimes with the morons commenting. All the best to this guy and unlucky getting caught, just trying to do people a favour.

Listen, I'm certainly no fan of the Daily Mail. But "...morons commenting"? And with you commenting this kind of stuff; "...unlucky getting caught..." etc?!

It seems like you've dropped your toast and it landed the wrong way up!

saintinpattaya wrote:
I live in Thailand and know if I carried drug's of nearly 2 kg I would be in prison for the rest of my life. 30Gram or over near a border is death sentence for Thais. So you got off well considering. Maybe you should have just killed your Mrs and got out early. You should be thankful of the royal pardon here. I understand we all make mistakes but do the crime do the time. You learned the hardest way.

Well said, and from someone who knows something of the reality of life - unlike some others who've commented on this story.

Scrutinizer wrote:

ToastyTea wrote: Makes you wonder if this is the dailymail website sometimes with the morons commenting. All the best to this guy and unlucky getting caught, just trying to do people a favour.

Listen, I'm certainly no fan of the Daily Mail. But &quot;...morons commenting"? And with you commenting this kind of stuff; "...unlucky getting caught..." etc?! It seems like you've dropped your toast and it landed the wrong way up!

my toast always lands the right side up.

biggsp wrote:
Knowing the family as I do, they'll be saying that God let our Johnny out of prison!!!!!

Hah... ... He carried drugs... ... He deserved what he got!! DRUGS KILL. Simple. There should be NO pardons!!!!! A sentence is a sentence. Simple as that!!!!!

excuse me you do not know the family!!!! if you did you would no they dont believe in God!!

He done wrong ...he done 18yrs... I spoke to him last week and he is trying change his life around .ie get a job , see his kids and contribute to society again,
our country should have some similar rules to Thailand because a hell of alot of people wouldn't commit the crimes.....Good luck to John!

CHARLIE TAYLOR wrote:

saintinpattaya wrote:
I live in Thailand and know if I carried drug's of nearly 2 kg I would be in prison for the rest of my life. 30Gram or over near a border is death sentence for Thais. So you got off well considering. Maybe you should have just killed your Mrs and got out early. You should be thankful of the royal pardon here. I understand we all make mistakes but do the crime do the time. You learned the hardest way.

can we start a saints supporters club in pattaya ?

I'm in Saraburi but could make it there some weekends.

Every School kid should be made to read this or a similar report, then some good may come out of this mistake. As for some of the comments on here, at no time does this guy seek simpathy and chose to finish his time abroad in a hell hole rather than the soft U.K. option, I have made mistakes as most of us have (nothing serious) and allthough I don't admire this guy I do wish him well.

Everyone knows you can buy ANYTHING in Thailand easy . We have been many times and WARNINGS on smuggling are EVERYWHERE , I for 1 back Thailand s decision fully , he is a lucky guy to get off so lightly . But now start living a LIFE you have missed out on .

ToastyTea wrote:

Scrutinizer wrote:

ToastyTea wrote: Makes you wonder if this is the dailymail website sometimes with the morons commenting. All the best to this guy and unlucky getting caught, just trying to do people a favour.

Listen, I'm certainly no fan of the Daily Mail. But &quot;...morons commenting"? And with you commenting this kind of stuff; "...unlucky getting caught..." etc?! It seems like you've dropped your toast and it landed the wrong way up!

my toast always lands the right side up.

Though we all know where your jam lands...

All this hypocritical talk about heroin about heroin. It's a commodity; there's not many cases of shady pushers enticing schoolchildren. It goes to people desperately need because of a medical condition they have acquired, called opiate addiction. And before you start slamming me, consider this - the reason laws against narcotics are so strict in much of East Asia is really a reaction against the policies of British colonialism. You were not so sanctimonious when you addicted a good proportion of the population of China, and fought several wars to keep the trade routes open for opium.

I wish all the best to Mr. Wheeler and his family. Many of the commenters here would not survive a weekend lockup, even where I live..

Mr. Ducke wrote:
All this hypocritical talk about heroin about heroin. It's a commodity; there's not many cases of shady pushers enticing schoolchildren. It goes to people desperately need because of a medical condition they have acquired, called opiate addiction. And before you start slamming me, consider this - the reason laws against narcotics are so strict in much of East Asia is really a reaction against the policies of British colonialism. You were not so sanctimonious when you addicted a good proportion of the population of China, and fought several wars to keep the trade routes open for opium. I wish all the best to Mr. Wheeler and his family. Many of the commenters here would not survive a weekend lockup, even where I live..

Oh really? But what do you mean by "hypocritical" and "you"? None (or extremely few, anyway) of us in this country were around when such policies were devised and engaged in during those times. You're using the illogical, ol' retrograde-blaming argument, that we in the present are responsible in some (or any) way for the actions of those who came before us. I mean while you're at it, why don't you blame the post WWII-born generation of German people for what their fathers and grandfathers did back then?

So heroin is a simple "commodity" in your little world, is it? I see, and not so much the poisonous, destructive and often deadly substance it's believed to be by experts all over the known world, such as chemists and people from the medical profession etc then, oh and not least plenty of addicts too?

Then there's the school chldren; I don't suppose you've considered that the main reasons why they might not be chased after by heroin pushers ('though some obviously have been and indeed in some places no doubt still are), is on account of the simple facts that: 1) They don't have the money to fund buying the poison regularly (and less likely to take the very regular risks involved in stealing to fund it either). Also 2) that they are much less independent than (the greater majority of) adults, and therefore more likely to be known to be taking it by others, not least their parents etc, who no doubt in most cases would pursue legal (and possibly illegal, if necessary, which would be quite understandable in my view too) action against the pushers, than anything else? But then where do you think many of the "addicts" get their dope from, good joe-neighbour?

Oh, and I don't suppose the reason why the guy opted not to return here, to Britain to finish his sentence, has anything at all to do with him anticipating an amnesty coming up sometime in the future in Thailand, whereby he'd quite possibly stand a very good chance of release (as actually occured obviously), unlike over here, where the best he could hope for would be a reduction? Do you think we all just stepped off the last banana boat out of ice-land or something?

And whether any of us on here - including myself - who are unsympathtic toward this guy's situation, could survive a weekend - or any other amount of time - where you live, is irrelevant, anyway.

So, where do you live then - Room 101?

he got what he deserved he wasn't any better before he left the uk as sadly I knew him then and would not wish to reacquaint myself or my family with him