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Thanks a lot Mr Brown


WHEN Gordon Brown brought his Cabinet to Southampton, a wave of optimism swept across the city. He spoke in glowing terms of a region well-placed to weather the recession, and heaped praise on a city he described as “the gateway to the world”.

But now, just 33 days after the trip, which the Daily Echo can today reveal cost Hampshire police alone almost £38,000, the gloss has gone, revealing a more tarnished reality.

In the space of less than five weeks, the city has been rocked by a series of economic setbacks: Hopes up to 400 new jobs would be created in Southampton through a new Government department being sited in the city were dashed when it was announced it would be based in Tyneside instead.

Thanks a lot Mr Brown

Funding has been withdrawn for Guildhall Square

Port firms, local politicians and business groups had pitched Southampton as The Marine Management Organisation’s “natural home”, but the north-east won out because of its “broad range and good balance of marine interests”.

The future of Southampton docks, on which 12,000 local workers depend, is under threat from Government proposals for a “swingeing” increase in ship taxes.

Fears have been raised that many of the port’s biggest customers could quit the city for cheaper alternatives abroad in the face of 67 per cent rises in their tax bills.

Ambitious building projects at five Hampshire colleges, costing a total of £160m, hang in the balance after funding was suddenly shelved.

Thanks a lot Mr Brown

Southampton docks faces a ‘swingeing’ increase in ship taxes

Schemes at Southampton City College, Itchen College, Taunton’s College, Totton College and Brockenhurst College are all on hold, pending a review, because The Learning and Skills Council said it had run out of cash to pay for them.

And now we can also reveal that the South East England Development Agency (Seeda) has pulled the £4.6m it had promised for the revamp of Guildhall Square, as a central part of plans to develop a cultural quarter.

Southampton taxpayers could now be forced to foot the bill for the scheme to create a plush granite plaza stretching from East Park to the steps of the Guildhall.

Thanks a lot Mr Brown

Funding has been shelved for college building projects

The City Council remains committed to the project, despite the developers behind the £50m two landmark 18-storey glass towers that were to house the new arts complex having pulled out last year.

Southampton’s Cabinet member for economic development, Royston Smith, said the authority would not be knocked off course by Seeda’s “disgraceful” decision.

The council is already paying the £500,000 costs of pulling down the derelict former Tyrell and Green building, converting the eyesore into a temporary park in a bid to attract a new firm to take on the scheme.

“If necessary, we will borrow the money to continue with Guildhall Square where Seeda has let us down,” said Councillor Smith.

“It will be going forward where possible, but with Southampton taxpayers’ money, where it should have been with promised money where the Government has let us down.

Thanks a lot Mr Brown

The Marine Management Organisation will not be coming to the city

“We promised we would deliver this and we will find a way to deliver it.”

Cllr Smith believes the pulled funding provides just another example of Southampton being let down by the “hollow words” delivered when Cabinet came to the city last month.

“I never thought it was anything more than an expensive publicity stunt,” he said.

“They said they were coming down to listen to people, but they didn’t talk to a single member of the public.

“Who did they listen to and what did they hear? They didn’t hear anyone saying please take all our investment away, but that’s exactly what they’ve done.

“We have a Secretary of State who says he is Southampton’s voice in the Cabinet. We’ve lost anything up to £70m in the last week, so I challenge anyone to say this is a voice in the Cabinet.

“In light of what has happened in Southampton since that visit, I would hope for any other city’s sake that they don’t announce plans to go there, because they’re clearly a jinx – they certainly haven’t done us any favours.”

Southampton Itchen MP John Denham, the Secretary of State for Innovation and Skills, last night accused the Tory councillor of talking the city down.

“As local MP, I share the disappointment about Seeda’s decision, but recognise they have to make tough decisions on priorities,” he said.

“But I think Cllr Smith needs to be honest with the people of Southampton. His party committed themselves to £5 billion of public spending cuts, starting from April.

“No Conservative politician can stand up and complain about any project being cut, because it’s perfectly clear that if they were in power there would be more cut.

“I think Royston Smith should stop his campaign of talking the city down, and putting everything that happens in the worst possible light.

“If I were in charge of economic development, I would want to be talking the city up.”

Comments(24)

Maverell says...
7:18am Sun 29 Mar 09

LOL - and you actually believed Browns words when he came to town ?? If anyone beleived him they must be as mad as he is. He lives on spin, lies and deception and expects everyone to beleive him. He is so arrogant its unreal.

Condor Man says...
8:52am Sun 29 Mar 09

anyone who votes for either Denham or Whitehead in the next election will be condemning the rest of us to another 5 years of financial mismanagement. If you seriously think that life has improved since 1997 you are deluded. All we've seen are taxes rising to pay for huge pay increases for people at the top of public services.

The Labour party have proved themselves to be the party of financial collapse as they were in the late 60s and 70s.

The last recession was solved by fiscal prudence, this stimulus will make us all poorer in the long run.

goard says...
9:43am Sun 29 Mar 09

I, at times, see situations that are not there and Mr. Brown coming down here, to me, spelt of something fishy. First, over the last few years Council and Government have promised the earth, but I feel all of them knew, even three years ago, that we were all in serious trouble and Brown was plotting and planning even then. Secondly, it may be my imagination that our Docks are threatened because something has happened, maybe EU dictators that the docks should be moved to other EU Countries - and that was why Brown was touring the Docks - they are all such crafty, secretive and manipulatives I think there is more than meets the eye in everything political parties decide for us, and they are now treating us with distain.

Goard

Duncan Disorderly says...
10:42am Sun 29 Mar 09

Goard, have you taken your pills this morning?

southy says...
1:21pm Sun 29 Mar 09

it dont matter what type off government in power weather it be lib's torys, or lab. when a PM visits a place its the kiss off death, just look at how many place took a nose dive when m.thatcher visted them, a number off companys went from doing real good and about few weeks later went bust.
any PM or any cabinet member should be chain up in parliament and should not be allowed to see the light off day. they are all jinkes

Finlay says...
3:17pm Sun 29 Mar 09

Southampton’s Cabinet member for economic development, Royston Smith, said "...where the Government has let us down."

Now what was that old series on TV starring old codgers and their life in the Home Guard during WW2? As I recall the entree tune was also an old wartime ditty and went something like - Mr Brown goes into town on the 08 22..."

Mr 'Brown' held two roles as I recall; An irritating little bank manager who portrayed he was the holder of the current British Economy from his Home Counties stronghold. The other he was the 'head of the Home Guard'

An inimitable bungler and a laughable little man to boot.

It is deep fear inside us all that this is one and the same character but on a much larger scale that you now have in Britain.

Mr Brown aka Mr Manwaring

Even Mr Manwarings side kick assistant officer has a striking resemblance to a younger Alistair Darling

To summarize The country's economy is a joke and steered by incompetant bunglers from yesteryear - This series wasnt just a comical view of the home uard but a visionary peek at the Government in 2008-9

goard says...
4:30pm Sun 29 Mar 09

Duncan, I have just taken 'my pills' and feeling a lot better! I said I had a serious problem of imagination but sometimes I have a 'feeling' that Council are trying to make the best of what is on their plate. I feel the government do not just sit there listening to their favourite music - surely they would be saying 'WHAT DO WE DO WITH SOUTHAMPTON'? the whole Solent front is not working, literally, not just this last year, its been unwiding. Those wonderful anouncement of all these beautiful liners using our Port, not built by us! - all pie in the sky and I feel 'owners' who have no loyalty whatsoever to the Soton people will move on if it suits them. Indeed they would sell their own grandmothers. I would not mind betting many firms are looking abroad for cheaper labour and better returns. That is what is happening - all our family silver has been sold off - fools are we.

goard

Maverell says...
5:07pm Sun 29 Mar 09

Brown said that the whole nation was well placed to weather the storm, and said the same about Soton - - it was only spin to keep the 'pond life' happy. He seems to have fooled the Echo !

He said he had banished boom and bust. Ok so he banished boom we just have bust.

Anyone who thinks he can lead us out of the mess he has got us into needs their head examined. Britain is the worst placed nation to weather the storm he steered us into.

thesaint says...
5:35pm Sun 29 Mar 09

Condor Man wrote:
anyone who votes for either Denham or Whitehead in the next election will be condemning the rest of us to another 5 years of financial mismanagement. If you seriously think that life has improved since 1997 you are deluded. All we've seen are taxes rising to pay for huge pay increases for people at the top of public services.

The Labour party have proved themselves to be the party of financial collapse as they were in the late 60s and 70s.

The last recession was solved by fiscal prudence, this stimulus will make us all poorer in the long run.
the southampton mps are good local mps and would vote for them even if they were tory or liberal,i cannot stand the current labour party and remember when the torys mismanged the countrys finances .so it gets harder to find some to vote for.

Condor Man says...
6:32pm Sun 29 Mar 09

thesaint wrote:
Condor Man wrote: anyone who votes for either Denham or Whitehead in the next election will be condemning the rest of us to another 5 years of financial mismanagement. If you seriously think that life has improved since 1997 you are deluded. All we've seen are taxes rising to pay for huge pay increases for people at the top of public services. The Labour party have proved themselves to be the party of financial collapse as they were in the late 60s and 70s. The last recession was solved by fiscal prudence, this stimulus will make us all poorer in the long run.
the southampton mps are good local mps and would vote for them even if they were tory or liberal,i cannot stand the current labour party and remember when the torys mismanged the countrys finances .so it gets harder to find some to vote for.
I couldn't care less about their ability. The fact is that they are backing a government that is leading this country into a abyss. Therefore they are guilty by association and should lose their seats. If you seriously think that by electing with Denham or Whitehead we'll see an improvement in the fortunes of city and country you are deluded.

ex so'ton says...
7:35pm Sun 29 Mar 09

It really is a case of keeping the Rotten Boroughs of the North East happy, these are the little constituencies who have a tiny electorate who vote solidly FOR Labour, and support up there began with the saving given to Northern Rock, there are others too numerous to mention. It is and can be seen to be 'Jobs for the Boys' a direct inverse of the 'old school tie' beloved of the Tories in years past. Until these rotten boroughs are disolved and merged with bigger constituencies then th situation cannot change. It says little for your two numbskull MP's who are supposed to represent your interests in Southampton. Perhaps it was ever thus the same in the past!

Tobeblunt says...
8:00pm Sun 29 Mar 09

Condor Man wrote:
anyone who votes for either Denham or Whitehead in the next election will be condemning the rest of us to another 5 years of financial mismanagement. If you seriously think that life has improved since 1997 you are deluded. All we've seen are taxes rising to pay for huge pay increases for people at the top of public services. The Labour party have proved themselves to be the party of financial collapse as they were in the late 60s and 70s. The last recession was solved by fiscal prudence, this stimulus will make us all poorer in the long run.
any of the political parties condem Southampton to a missmanagement of finances and do nothing to make to city worth living in. I'm only here because family live in southampton other wise i'd live else where. This city is a sh1t hole.

Lone Ranger says...
9:44pm Sun 29 Mar 09

Condor Man wrote:
thesaint wrote:
Condor Man wrote: anyone who votes for either Denham or Whitehead in the next election will be condemning the rest of us to another 5 years of financial mismanagement. If you seriously think that life has improved since 1997 you are deluded. All we've seen are taxes rising to pay for huge pay increases for people at the top of public services. The Labour party have proved themselves to be the party of financial collapse as they were in the late 60s and 70s. The last recession was solved by fiscal prudence, this stimulus will make us all poorer in the long run.
the southampton mps are good local mps and would vote for them even if they were tory or liberal,i cannot stand the current labour party and remember when the torys mismanged the countrys finances .so it gets harder to find some to vote for.
I couldn't care less about their ability. The fact is that they are backing a government that is leading this country into a abyss. Therefore they are guilty by association and should lose their seats. If you seriously think that by electing with Denham or Whitehead we'll see an improvement in the fortunes of city and country you are deluded.
There you go again Condor Man with the usual Conservative cr@p.
Its great to offer critism but you, like your party, never seem to come up with decent or plausable alternatives. You criticise Denham and Whitehead but when you look around at the competition it really is pretty poor, somewhat similar to the rest of the Tories.

Paramjit Bahia says...
10:57pm Sun 29 Mar 09

Southy's spellings may not be correct (Mostly like my own!) but his analysis is spot on. All three major strands of our political class have become virtually the same. Labour and Lib-Dems are the two wings of the same Tory vulture.

People should face the facts of today's principle free zone of main political class, in which three major players are not there to serve our interests but to only promote themselves, at our expense.

If anybody really thought that Bungler Clown had brought his circus to our town to either listen to us or to solve any of our problems then he/she was not being realistic.

Whole purpose of these jinxes to come to Southampton was to fool the public, claim the expenses and do what this lot is best at doing---DELIVER KISS OF DEATH.

They will continue doing the same unless we the people wake up and start doing something about it through democratic means at our disposal. Unless we start voting for decent people we will keep on getting more and more of the same.

But if you keep on voting for the questionable characters then don't moan if you get screwed by former junkies and the ones who have the cheek to even claim for watching phonographic films funded by the tax payers.

stuartjebbitt says...
9:06am Mon 30 Mar 09

Trouble is, with our archaic voting system there's only 2 choices of government, both of which have failed us time after time.
You can win a landslide victory in the UK with 40% of the vote.
That isn't democracy to my mind.

southy says...
10:00am Mon 30 Mar 09

stuartjebbitt wrote:
Trouble is, with our archaic voting system there's only 2 choices of government, both of which have failed us time after time.
You can win a landslide victory in the UK with 40% of the vote.
That isn't democracy to my mind.
theres more than 2 partys to vote for,well most areas have more than 2, this coming elections in june (UE MP elections), a lot of areas will have a new to chose the cnwp are putting up people in many areas, vote for this one and send a message to all the other partys enough is enough, it will only take the next 2 years for the message to get clear to them, next year will be the general elections and the cnwp will probley be doing the same there to, just to get the message across to all partys, stop thinking off them selfs and start doing some thing for the masses.

goard says...
12:10pm Mon 30 Mar 09

When new candidates go into 'politics' it is with goodwill and interest to help with the running of this Country. When they are accepted by their collegues, they begin to realise they are being coerced, as with the animal kingdom, to follow my leader, the most powerful, his dangerously and skilled side-kicks, and a newly elected candidate needs an iron coat to resist them. In the end it is all about survival for MPs representing their constituencies - this is not democracy it is the Cabinet who have a stronger will to dominate. I feel that is what the British people are railing against - dictatorship.

Goard

Redback says...
12:46pm Mon 30 Mar 09

Reclaim the streets.

ex so'ton says...
7:56pm Mon 30 Mar 09

southey, just one question, does cnwp mean Conservative New Whingers' Party? Just wondered.

southy says...
12:14pm Tue 31 Mar 09

ex so'ton, Abingdon says...
7:56pm Mon 30 Mar 09
southey, just one question, does cnwp mean Conservative New Whingers' Party? Just wondered.

no its a new party for the masses, and they will very much worth the vote. if only to send a message to the other party. because labour and torys are not listen to the people. and it is time for a change.

ex so'ton says...
9:49pm Wed 1 Apr 09

Thanks southey, but you did not say what the initials actually stand for. CNWP = ?

southy says...
12:33pm Thu 2 Apr 09

Campaign for a New Workers Party

ex so'ton says...
2:34pm Thu 2 Apr 09

southy wrote:
Campaign for a New Workers Party
Thanks muchly. Will look out for them when the time comes.

southy says...
10:39am Fri 3 Apr 09

they will be under a new name i find out what name they will be called later.


John Denham and Gordon Brown during the Cabinet visit to Southampton last week Thanks a lot Mr Brown

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