Hampshire and Merseyside MPs in cruise war clash at House of Commons

Daily Echo: John Denham John Denham

MPs HAVE clashed in the House of Commons over Southampton’s cruise ship rivalry with Liverpool.

The contentious matter was raised when a new planning policy for the UK’s ports was being discussed at Westminster.

Southampton Itchen MP John Denham seized the opportunity to debate Liverpool’s controversial expansion plans, telling Transport Minister Norman Baker the bid “breaches the principle of fair competition”.

This drew a response from Louise Ellman, Labour MP for Liverpool Riverside, who chairs the Commons Transport Select Committee.

She pointed out that Southampton currently accounts for 65 per cent of the cruise market compared to Liverpool’s five per cent, and said it was “very important”

to her city’s regeneration.New Forest East Tory MP Julian Lewis intervened, telling Ms Ellman Liverpool “never had any intention” of sticking to promises it made when it was granted millions of pounds of public subsidy to develop its cruise terminal, saying it would be “bizarre” if permission were granted for it to operate as a turnaround facility.

Ms Ellman said his claims were not accurate, saying she hoped “a reasonable decision” would be taken.

Ports bosses, politicians and cruise-related businesses have been campaigning for a level playing field and are demanding Liverpool pays back all the £21m of taxpayers’ money it has received to build its City Cruise Terminal.

The Department for Transport is poised to rule on Liverpool’s request to repay a fraction of its state funding in return for being allowed to launch cruises, tapping into Southampton’s lucrative industry.

The National Policy Statement on Ports sets out the guidance that will be used in future to determine major planning applications relating to ports, because the quango that has handled them in the past is being abolished.

Mr Lewis also raised the lengthy battle over plans for a huge container port at Dibden Bay, turned down after a public inquiry.

Mr Baker said the changes would not make a similar application more likely to succeed in the future.

And Mr Denham urged the minister to help unlock £150m private investment in Southampton Port, where a bid to increase container capacity is being held up by legal red tape.

Mr Baker promised to “take the issue away”.

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5:35pm Thu 1 Dec 11

Paramjit Bahia says...

Nice to know that while on the way out of parliamentary politics and probably on the way to some other money making careers John has raised the issue concerning Southampton in parliament
.
Pity politically dodgy Denham like most of his closet Conservative colleagues (who have hijacked the Labour Party for furthering their own right wing agenda) not only failed to support union members who helped them in building their lucrative careers by canvassing for support but also by providing finance and letting them exploit offices of some unions as free call centres for canvassing, cost of which could not have been counted towards declared election expenses
.
Those who backstabbed the unionised workers should be made to pay the price by putting an end to contributions for closet Conservatives, in the NuLabour led by Milliband and his right wing mob
.
Money thus saved should be channelled into pro working people campaigns.
Nice to know that while on the way out of parliamentary politics and probably on the way to some other money making careers John has raised the issue concerning Southampton in parliament . Pity politically dodgy Denham like most of his closet Conservative colleagues (who have hijacked the Labour Party for furthering their own right wing agenda) not only failed to support union members who helped them in building their lucrative careers by canvassing for support but also by providing finance and letting them exploit offices of some unions as free call centres for canvassing, cost of which could not have been counted towards declared election expenses . Those who backstabbed the unionised workers should be made to pay the price by putting an end to contributions for closet Conservatives, in the NuLabour led by Milliband and his right wing mob . Money thus saved should be channelled into pro working people campaigns. Paramjit Bahia

6:06pm Thu 1 Dec 11

Condor Man says...

It's good that JD is finally standing up for Southampton, I have to wonder what he's done for the city in the previous 19 years though. You never know, Alan Whitehead might back our corner one day too.
It's good that JD is finally standing up for Southampton, I have to wonder what he's done for the city in the previous 19 years though. You never know, Alan Whitehead might back our corner one day too. Condor Man

7:13pm Thu 1 Dec 11

acid drop says...

Alan Shitehead backing our corner????? dream on
Alan Shitehead backing our corner????? dream on acid drop

9:25pm Thu 1 Dec 11

The Outside Edge says...

Condor Man wrote:
It's good that JD is finally standing up for Southampton, I have to wonder what he's done for the city in the previous 19 years though. You never know, Alan Whitehead might back our corner one day too.
I will tell you something he hasn't done in 19 years,,,,he has not attacked public service workers pay and conditions in the name of cuts, whilst borrowing money to pay for his friends follies, he not single handedly destroyed the morale of an entire workforce for his own gain, he has not forced local authority workers to go out strike and stay out on strike for the longest time in this councils history, he has not cut frontline services to the elderly and infirm whilst telling us he cares, he has not spent £1 million of council tax payers money (in barristers fees even before a court action) trying to himself right when everyone knows he is wrong, he has not failed every young person in this city by destroying youth provision unlike your Tory mate Royston who has managed to do all that in less than a year.
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: It's good that JD is finally standing up for Southampton, I have to wonder what he's done for the city in the previous 19 years though. You never know, Alan Whitehead might back our corner one day too.[/p][/quote]I will tell you something he hasn't done in 19 years,,,,he has not attacked public service workers pay and conditions in the name of cuts, whilst borrowing money to pay for his friends follies, he not single handedly destroyed the morale of an entire workforce for his own gain, he has not forced local authority workers to go out strike and stay out on strike for the longest time in this councils history, he has not cut frontline services to the elderly and infirm whilst telling us he cares, he has not spent £1 million of council tax payers money (in barristers fees even before a court action) trying to himself right when everyone knows he is wrong, he has not failed every young person in this city by destroying youth provision unlike your Tory mate Royston who has managed to do all that in less than a year. The Outside Edge

9:56pm Thu 1 Dec 11

arthur boutfaith says...

The Outside Edge wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
It's good that JD is finally standing up for Southampton, I have to wonder what he's done for the city in the previous 19 years though. You never know, Alan Whitehead might back our corner one day too.
I will tell you something he hasn't done in 19 years,,,,he has not attacked public service workers pay and conditions in the name of cuts, whilst borrowing money to pay for his friends follies, he not single handedly destroyed the morale of an entire workforce for his own gain, he has not forced local authority workers to go out strike and stay out on strike for the longest time in this councils history, he has not cut frontline services to the elderly and infirm whilst telling us he cares, he has not spent £1 million of council tax payers money (in barristers fees even before a court action) trying to himself right when everyone knows he is wrong, he has not failed every young person in this city by destroying youth provision unlike your Tory mate Royston who has managed to do all that in less than a year.
Neither has he single-handedly tackled and disarmed a machine-gun toting, wild-eyed maniac on board a nuclear submarine !!

Go Royston !!

Yay !!
[quote][p][bold]The Outside Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: It's good that JD is finally standing up for Southampton, I have to wonder what he's done for the city in the previous 19 years though. You never know, Alan Whitehead might back our corner one day too.[/p][/quote]I will tell you something he hasn't done in 19 years,,,,he has not attacked public service workers pay and conditions in the name of cuts, whilst borrowing money to pay for his friends follies, he not single handedly destroyed the morale of an entire workforce for his own gain, he has not forced local authority workers to go out strike and stay out on strike for the longest time in this councils history, he has not cut frontline services to the elderly and infirm whilst telling us he cares, he has not spent £1 million of council tax payers money (in barristers fees even before a court action) trying to himself right when everyone knows he is wrong, he has not failed every young person in this city by destroying youth provision unlike your Tory mate Royston who has managed to do all that in less than a year.[/p][/quote]Neither has he single-handedly tackled and disarmed a machine-gun toting, wild-eyed maniac on board a nuclear submarine !! Go Royston !! Yay !! arthur boutfaith

9:57pm Thu 1 Dec 11

arthur boutfaith says...

Neither has he single-handedly tackled and disarmed a machine-gun toting, wild-eyed maniac on board a nuclear submarine !!

Go Royston !!

Yay !!
Neither has he single-handedly tackled and disarmed a machine-gun toting, wild-eyed maniac on board a nuclear submarine !! Go Royston !! Yay !! arthur boutfaith

10:10pm Thu 1 Dec 11

freemantlegirl2 says...

Condor Man wrote:
It's good that JD is finally standing up for Southampton, I have to wonder what he's done for the city in the previous 19 years though. You never know, Alan Whitehead might back our corner one day too.
If John has done nothing for Southampton CM, how come he's been RELECTED by the people of Itchen constituency (in Southampton) for the past 19 years then and several elections....

hmmmmm that's a toughie isn't it!

Paramjit, give it a rest.. it doesn't matter what JD says or does you come out with the same chuntering diatribe every single time,.... it's boring now, you don't like him we get it.
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: It's good that JD is finally standing up for Southampton, I have to wonder what he's done for the city in the previous 19 years though. You never know, Alan Whitehead might back our corner one day too.[/p][/quote]If John has done nothing for Southampton CM, how come he's been RELECTED by the people of Itchen constituency (in Southampton) for the past 19 years then and several elections.... hmmmmm that's a toughie isn't it! Paramjit, give it a rest.. it doesn't matter what JD says or does you come out with the same chuntering diatribe every single time,.... it's boring now, you don't like him we get it. freemantlegirl2

1:26am Fri 2 Dec 11

Paramjit Bahia says...

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
It's good that JD is finally standing up for Southampton, I have to wonder what he's done for the city in the previous 19 years though. You never know, Alan Whitehead might back our corner one day too.
If John has done nothing for Southampton CM, how come he's been RELECTED by the people of Itchen constituency (in Southampton) for the past 19 years then and several elections....

hmmmmm that's a toughie isn't it!

Paramjit, give it a rest.. it doesn't matter what JD says or does you come out with the same chuntering diatribe every single time,.... it's boring now, you don't like him we get it.
Nice of you to stand up for your family friend, who was part of the government that insulted old age pensioners with 75p per week pension rise.
You may have forgotten disabled people who had to demonstrate out side Downing Street but some us who still believe in what used to be Labour values can not forget.
By the way I have never asked you to read what you describe “diatribe”. If you do not like the truths told about your favourite NuLabourites why can’t you simply skip it?
[quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: It's good that JD is finally standing up for Southampton, I have to wonder what he's done for the city in the previous 19 years though. You never know, Alan Whitehead might back our corner one day too.[/p][/quote]If John has done nothing for Southampton CM, how come he's been RELECTED by the people of Itchen constituency (in Southampton) for the past 19 years then and several elections.... hmmmmm that's a toughie isn't it! Paramjit, give it a rest.. it doesn't matter what JD says or does you come out with the same chuntering diatribe every single time,.... it's boring now, you don't like him we get it.[/p][/quote]Nice of you to stand up for your family friend, who was part of the government that insulted old age pensioners with 75p per week pension rise. You may have forgotten disabled people who had to demonstrate out side Downing Street but some us who still believe in what used to be Labour values can not forget. By the way I have never asked you to read what you describe “diatribe”. If you do not like the truths told about your favourite NuLabourites why can’t you simply skip it? Paramjit Bahia

1:26am Fri 2 Dec 11

Paramjit Bahia says...

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
It's good that JD is finally standing up for Southampton, I have to wonder what he's done for the city in the previous 19 years though. You never know, Alan Whitehead might back our corner one day too.
If John has done nothing for Southampton CM, how come he's been RELECTED by the people of Itchen constituency (in Southampton) for the past 19 years then and several elections....

hmmmmm that's a toughie isn't it!

Paramjit, give it a rest.. it doesn't matter what JD says or does you come out with the same chuntering diatribe every single time,.... it's boring now, you don't like him we get it.
Nice of you to stand up for your family friend, who was part of the government that insulted old age pensioners with 75p per week pension rise.
You may have forgotten disabled people who had to demonstrate out side Downing Street but some us who still believe in what used to be Labour values can not forget.
By the way I have never asked you to read what you describe “diatribe”. If you do not like the truths told about your favourite NuLabourites why can’t you simply skip it?
[quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: It's good that JD is finally standing up for Southampton, I have to wonder what he's done for the city in the previous 19 years though. You never know, Alan Whitehead might back our corner one day too.[/p][/quote]If John has done nothing for Southampton CM, how come he's been RELECTED by the people of Itchen constituency (in Southampton) for the past 19 years then and several elections.... hmmmmm that's a toughie isn't it! Paramjit, give it a rest.. it doesn't matter what JD says or does you come out with the same chuntering diatribe every single time,.... it's boring now, you don't like him we get it.[/p][/quote]Nice of you to stand up for your family friend, who was part of the government that insulted old age pensioners with 75p per week pension rise. You may have forgotten disabled people who had to demonstrate out side Downing Street but some us who still believe in what used to be Labour values can not forget. By the way I have never asked you to read what you describe “diatribe”. If you do not like the truths told about your favourite NuLabourites why can’t you simply skip it? Paramjit Bahia

7:25am Fri 2 Dec 11

loosehead says...

The Outside Edge wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
It's good that JD is finally standing up for Southampton, I have to wonder what he's done for the city in the previous 19 years though. You never know, Alan Whitehead might back our corner one day too.
I will tell you something he hasn't done in 19 years,,,,he has not attacked public service workers pay and conditions in the name of cuts, whilst borrowing money to pay for his friends follies, he not single handedly destroyed the morale of an entire workforce for his own gain, he has not forced local authority workers to go out strike and stay out on strike for the longest time in this councils history, he has not cut frontline services to the elderly and infirm whilst telling us he cares, he has not spent £1 million of council tax payers money (in barristers fees even before a court action) trying to himself right when everyone knows he is wrong, he has not failed every young person in this city by destroying youth provision unlike your Tory mate Royston who has managed to do all that in less than a year.
Funny that! When over one thousand workers faced the dole & asked him to support them ( Whitehead & Denham) he/they refused as Tony Blair wanted to see the law changed. it doesn't matter what the product was it employed 1,000 people directly with thousands more in supply & services.
Yet now his local Labour party are talking of at least 700 more redundancies than the tories is he / they saying it's wrong?
[quote][p][bold]The Outside Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: It's good that JD is finally standing up for Southampton, I have to wonder what he's done for the city in the previous 19 years though. You never know, Alan Whitehead might back our corner one day too.[/p][/quote]I will tell you something he hasn't done in 19 years,,,,he has not attacked public service workers pay and conditions in the name of cuts, whilst borrowing money to pay for his friends follies, he not single handedly destroyed the morale of an entire workforce for his own gain, he has not forced local authority workers to go out strike and stay out on strike for the longest time in this councils history, he has not cut frontline services to the elderly and infirm whilst telling us he cares, he has not spent £1 million of council tax payers money (in barristers fees even before a court action) trying to himself right when everyone knows he is wrong, he has not failed every young person in this city by destroying youth provision unlike your Tory mate Royston who has managed to do all that in less than a year.[/p][/quote]Funny that! When over one thousand workers faced the dole & asked him to support them ( Whitehead & Denham) he/they refused as Tony Blair wanted to see the law changed. it doesn't matter what the product was it employed 1,000 people directly with thousands more in supply & services. Yet now his local Labour party are talking of at least 700 more redundancies than the tories is he / they saying it's wrong? loosehead

8:47am Fri 2 Dec 11

Condor Man says...

FM2, if Denham cared about Southampton Itchen he'd live in the constituency. He did very little when staff were made redundant at Vestas, BAT, Skandia Life, British Gas and most notably Vospers. His election campaign ignored the fact that most people in his constituency don't live in Council property and were genuinely annoyed that he's been ignoring them for all these years. He knows that without Thornhill estate to vote for him he'll lose his seat in 2015 hence why he's retired.
FM2, if Denham cared about Southampton Itchen he'd live in the constituency. He did very little when staff were made redundant at Vestas, BAT, Skandia Life, British Gas and most notably Vospers. His election campaign ignored the fact that most people in his constituency don't live in Council property and were genuinely annoyed that he's been ignoring them for all these years. He knows that without Thornhill estate to vote for him he'll lose his seat in 2015 hence why he's retired. Condor Man

11:07am Fri 2 Dec 11

freefinker says...

loosehead wrote:
The Outside Edge wrote:
Condor Man wrote:
It's good that JD is finally standing up for Southampton, I have to wonder what he's done for the city in the previous 19 years though. You never know, Alan Whitehead might back our corner one day too.
I will tell you something he hasn't done in 19 years,,,,he has not attacked public service workers pay and conditions in the name of cuts, whilst borrowing money to pay for his friends follies, he not single handedly destroyed the morale of an entire workforce for his own gain, he has not forced local authority workers to go out strike and stay out on strike for the longest time in this councils history, he has not cut frontline services to the elderly and infirm whilst telling us he cares, he has not spent £1 million of council tax payers money (in barristers fees even before a court action) trying to himself right when everyone knows he is wrong, he has not failed every young person in this city by destroying youth provision unlike your Tory mate Royston who has managed to do all that in less than a year.
Funny that! When over one thousand workers faced the dole & asked him to support them ( Whitehead & Denham) he/they refused as Tony Blair wanted to see the law changed. it doesn't matter what the product was it employed 1,000 people directly with thousands more in supply & services.
Yet now his local Labour party are talking of at least 700 more redundancies than the tories is he / they saying it's wrong?
.. oh, if that is another reference to your previous employer, BAT, then as far as I'm concerned it DOES 'matter what the product was'.

Quite frankly, Southampton is well rid of these corporate drug pushers. But the stigma lives on - just as in Bristol and Liverpool with the slave trade.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Outside Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: It's good that JD is finally standing up for Southampton, I have to wonder what he's done for the city in the previous 19 years though. You never know, Alan Whitehead might back our corner one day too.[/p][/quote]I will tell you something he hasn't done in 19 years,,,,he has not attacked public service workers pay and conditions in the name of cuts, whilst borrowing money to pay for his friends follies, he not single handedly destroyed the morale of an entire workforce for his own gain, he has not forced local authority workers to go out strike and stay out on strike for the longest time in this councils history, he has not cut frontline services to the elderly and infirm whilst telling us he cares, he has not spent £1 million of council tax payers money (in barristers fees even before a court action) trying to himself right when everyone knows he is wrong, he has not failed every young person in this city by destroying youth provision unlike your Tory mate Royston who has managed to do all that in less than a year.[/p][/quote]Funny that! When over one thousand workers faced the dole & asked him to support them ( Whitehead & Denham) he/they refused as Tony Blair wanted to see the law changed. it doesn't matter what the product was it employed 1,000 people directly with thousands more in supply & services. Yet now his local Labour party are talking of at least 700 more redundancies than the tories is he / they saying it's wrong?[/p][/quote].. oh, if that is another reference to your previous employer, BAT, then as far as I'm concerned it DOES 'matter what the product was'. Quite frankly, Southampton is well rid of these corporate drug pushers. But the stigma lives on - just as in Bristol and Liverpool with the slave trade. freefinker

3:40pm Fri 2 Dec 11

Paramjit Bahia says...

Condor Man wrote:
FM2, if Denham cared about Southampton Itchen he'd live in the constituency. He did very little when staff were made redundant at Vestas, BAT, Skandia Life, British Gas and most notably Vospers. His election campaign ignored the fact that most people in his constituency don't live in Council property and were genuinely annoyed that he's been ignoring them for all these years. He knows that without Thornhill estate to vote for him he'll lose his seat in 2015 hence why he's retired.
Conservative Condor seems to be scoring own goals
.
Having picked some reasonable holes in Denham, he has shot him self in the foot
.
Although I am not aware of John Denham’s current residence, CM keep on informing us that he lives somewhere in his own posh neighbourhood which is in Southampton Test
.
Was it not the same area in which Chris Chope when he was Tory MP for Itchen used to live?
.
CM should remember that James Hill the MP for Test did not even live in the city, but in a very expensive house in New Forest
.
Also is he not aware that there is no legal requirement for MPs to live in the constituency they represent in parliament?
.
Personally speaking I think over the years Southampton Itchen has always been very lucky for having MPs from all parties good at helping the constituents with their individual problems with the establishment. And at the end of the day that is what many vote for. But politically I always found Mitchell Chope and Denham difficult to agree with.
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: FM2, if Denham cared about Southampton Itchen he'd live in the constituency. He did very little when staff were made redundant at Vestas, BAT, Skandia Life, British Gas and most notably Vospers. His election campaign ignored the fact that most people in his constituency don't live in Council property and were genuinely annoyed that he's been ignoring them for all these years. He knows that without Thornhill estate to vote for him he'll lose his seat in 2015 hence why he's retired.[/p][/quote]Conservative Condor seems to be scoring own goals . Having picked some reasonable holes in Denham, he has shot him self in the foot . Although I am not aware of John Denham’s current residence, CM keep on informing us that he lives somewhere in his own posh neighbourhood which is in Southampton Test . Was it not the same area in which Chris Chope when he was Tory MP for Itchen used to live? . CM should remember that James Hill the MP for Test did not even live in the city, but in a very expensive house in New Forest . Also is he not aware that there is no legal requirement for MPs to live in the constituency they represent in parliament? . Personally speaking I think over the years Southampton Itchen has always been very lucky for having MPs from all parties good at helping the constituents with their individual problems with the establishment. And at the end of the day that is what many vote for. But politically I always found Mitchell Chope and Denham difficult to agree with. Paramjit Bahia

3:41pm Fri 2 Dec 11

Paramjit Bahia says...

Condor Man wrote:
FM2, if Denham cared about Southampton Itchen he'd live in the constituency. He did very little when staff were made redundant at Vestas, BAT, Skandia Life, British Gas and most notably Vospers. His election campaign ignored the fact that most people in his constituency don't live in Council property and were genuinely annoyed that he's been ignoring them for all these years. He knows that without Thornhill estate to vote for him he'll lose his seat in 2015 hence why he's retired.
Conservative Condor seems to be scoring own goals
.
Having picked some reasonable holes in Denham, he has shot him self in the foot
.
Although I am not aware of John Denham’s current residence, CM keep on informing us that he lives somewhere in his own posh neighbourhood which is in Southampton Test
.
Was it not the same area in which Chris Chope when he was Tory MP for Itchen used to live?
.
CM should remember that James Hill the MP for Test did not even live in the city, but in a very expensive house in New Forest
.
Also is he not aware that there is no legal requirement for MPs to live in the constituency they represent in parliament?
.
Personally speaking I think over the years Southampton Itchen has always been very lucky for having MPs from all parties good at helping the constituents with their individual problems with the establishment. And at the end of the day that is what many vote for. But politically I always found Mitchell Chope and Denham difficult to agree with.
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: FM2, if Denham cared about Southampton Itchen he'd live in the constituency. He did very little when staff were made redundant at Vestas, BAT, Skandia Life, British Gas and most notably Vospers. His election campaign ignored the fact that most people in his constituency don't live in Council property and were genuinely annoyed that he's been ignoring them for all these years. He knows that without Thornhill estate to vote for him he'll lose his seat in 2015 hence why he's retired.[/p][/quote]Conservative Condor seems to be scoring own goals . Having picked some reasonable holes in Denham, he has shot him self in the foot . Although I am not aware of John Denham’s current residence, CM keep on informing us that he lives somewhere in his own posh neighbourhood which is in Southampton Test . Was it not the same area in which Chris Chope when he was Tory MP for Itchen used to live? . CM should remember that James Hill the MP for Test did not even live in the city, but in a very expensive house in New Forest . Also is he not aware that there is no legal requirement for MPs to live in the constituency they represent in parliament? . Personally speaking I think over the years Southampton Itchen has always been very lucky for having MPs from all parties good at helping the constituents with their individual problems with the establishment. And at the end of the day that is what many vote for. But politically I always found Mitchell Chope and Denham difficult to agree with. Paramjit Bahia

3:41pm Fri 2 Dec 11

Paramjit Bahia says...

Condor Man wrote:
FM2, if Denham cared about Southampton Itchen he'd live in the constituency. He did very little when staff were made redundant at Vestas, BAT, Skandia Life, British Gas and most notably Vospers. His election campaign ignored the fact that most people in his constituency don't live in Council property and were genuinely annoyed that he's been ignoring them for all these years. He knows that without Thornhill estate to vote for him he'll lose his seat in 2015 hence why he's retired.
Conservative Condor seems to be scoring own goals
.
Having picked some reasonable holes in Denham, he has shot him self in the foot
.
Although I am not aware of John Denham’s current residence, CM keep on informing us that he lives somewhere in his own posh neighbourhood which is in Southampton Test
.
Was it not the same area in which Chris Chope when he was Tory MP for Itchen used to live?
.
CM should remember that James Hill the MP for Test did not even live in the city, but in a very expensive house in New Forest
.
Also is he not aware that there is no legal requirement for MPs to live in the constituency they represent in parliament?
.
Personally speaking I think over the years Southampton Itchen has always been very lucky for having MPs from all parties good at helping the constituents with their individual problems with the establishment. And at the end of the day that is what many vote for. But politically I always found Mitchell Chope and Denham difficult to agree with.
[quote][p][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote: FM2, if Denham cared about Southampton Itchen he'd live in the constituency. He did very little when staff were made redundant at Vestas, BAT, Skandia Life, British Gas and most notably Vospers. His election campaign ignored the fact that most people in his constituency don't live in Council property and were genuinely annoyed that he's been ignoring them for all these years. He knows that without Thornhill estate to vote for him he'll lose his seat in 2015 hence why he's retired.[/p][/quote]Conservative Condor seems to be scoring own goals . Having picked some reasonable holes in Denham, he has shot him self in the foot . Although I am not aware of John Denham’s current residence, CM keep on informing us that he lives somewhere in his own posh neighbourhood which is in Southampton Test . Was it not the same area in which Chris Chope when he was Tory MP for Itchen used to live? . CM should remember that James Hill the MP for Test did not even live in the city, but in a very expensive house in New Forest . Also is he not aware that there is no legal requirement for MPs to live in the constituency they represent in parliament? . Personally speaking I think over the years Southampton Itchen has always been very lucky for having MPs from all parties good at helping the constituents with their individual problems with the establishment. And at the end of the day that is what many vote for. But politically I always found Mitchell Chope and Denham difficult to agree with. Paramjit Bahia

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