Liverpool's leader branded "childish" in cruise wars cash row (From Daily Echo)

That's nearly as bad as being given huge amounts of public funding from central government for social services such as care of the elderly, the physically and mentally handicapped and then spending it instead on pointless non jobs like Equal Opportunities officers. It's a bit like being given taxpayers money to empty the bins and and then spending it on the overinflated salaries and pension of unnecessary executive communications and PR directors. Is that somehow mysteriously different?

Can always rely on Royston Smith for a bit of name-calling instead of negotiation.

Childish!!!!! Bit rich coming from Royston Smith

Well done Mr Smith. There is no argument. Liverpool can have their Port, but they must give back the subsidy. Cllr Anderson is a child in the extreme.

Now we like Liverpool and we like Southampton but which one is best.... only one way to find out....

FIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHH
HHHHHHT!!!

Unless I've got my motorways wrong isn't the true benefitor of the M27 Portsmouth?
As far as I knew this was widened to allow more traffic for their ferry services & Naval & cruise ports.
Doesn't the motorway go right into Portsmouth/Southsea?

i don't think you can call Millbrook Rd or West Quay rd( western esplanade?) A motorway can you?
I think the Liverpool guy needs to take this up with the Leader of Portsmouth City Council

Looking at the 2 cities Liverpool might have the Beatles and Cilla Black but they are also saddled with a decreasing population, hundreds of empty homes and of course the slave trade.

The Scouser needs to calm down, this is a clear case of state aid, although I have no time for Royston Smith whatsoever however he is correct one this one, I suggest Royston send the scouse joker a lorry load of shell suits for Christmas, to shut him up.

loosehead wrote:
Unless I've got my motorways wrong isn't the true benefitor of the M27 Portsmouth?
As far as I knew this was widened to allow more traffic for their ferry services & Naval & cruise ports.
Doesn't the motorway go right into Portsmouth/Southsea?


i don't think you can call Millbrook Rd or West Quay rd( western esplanade?) A motorway can you?
I think the Liverpool guy needs to take this up with the Leader of Portsmouth City Council

No, the M27 does not go right into Portsmouth.

The M275 goes into Portsmouth, like the M271 goes into Millbrook.

"If you want a Cathedral we've got one to Spare. In my Liverpool home".
Jelous or what?

Linesman wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Unless I've got my motorways wrong isn't the true benefitor of the M27 Portsmouth?
As far as I knew this was widened to allow more traffic for their ferry services & Naval & cruise ports.
Doesn't the motorway go right into Portsmouth/Southsea?



i don't think you can call Millbrook Rd or West Quay rd( western esplanade?) A motorway can you?
I think the Liverpool guy needs to take this up with the Leader of Portsmouth City Council

No, the M27 does not go right into Portsmouth.

The M275 goes into Portsmouth, like the M271 goes into Millbrook.

So the M27 goes where?
if this motorway doesn't directly benefit our port operations why the kick up by Liverpool?
Surely anyone who's used the M271 ( Lordshill to Millbrook) could tell you what a nightmare that roundabout at the end is.
I personally would have preferred to keep Test Playing field intact but this section was built way before Liverpool received monies to have a turnaround facility whilst never really wanting one .
All along having the appeal to change it to start & finish facilities.
Also how much Government money is being spent on dredging the Mersey? how much gets spent dredging Southampton water?

Linesman wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Unless I've got my motorways wrong isn't the true benefitor of the M27 Portsmouth?
As far as I knew this was widened to allow more traffic for their ferry services & Naval & cruise ports.
Doesn't the motorway go right into Portsmouth/Southsea?



i don't think you can call Millbrook Rd or West Quay rd( western esplanade?) A motorway can you?
I think the Liverpool guy needs to take this up with the Leader of Portsmouth City Council

No, the M27 does not go right into Portsmouth.

The M275 goes into Portsmouth, like the M271 goes into Millbrook.

Actually to be completely precise the M271 goes into Redbridge!

loosehead wrote:
Unless I've got my motorways wrong isn't the true benefitor of the M27 Portsmouth?
As far as I knew this was widened to allow more traffic for their ferry services & Naval & cruise ports.
Doesn't the motorway go right into Portsmouth/Southsea?


i don't think you can call Millbrook Rd or West Quay rd( western esplanade?) A motorway can you?
I think the Liverpool guy needs to take this up with the Leader of Portsmouth City Council

It's more likely that he is referring to the widening of the M27 between junctions 4 and 3, the primary objective of which was to ease the flow of traffic to and from Southampton on the M271 during peak times.
The jury is still out over whether it's worked.

freemantlegirl2 wrote:

Linesman wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Unless I've got my motorways wrong isn't the true benefitor of the M27 Portsmouth?
As far as I knew this was widened to allow more traffic for their ferry services & Naval & cruise ports.
Doesn't the motorway go right into Portsmouth/Southsea?




i don't think you can call Millbrook Rd or West Quay rd( western esplanade?) A motorway can you?
I think the Liverpool guy needs to take this up with the Leader of Portsmouth City Council

No, the M27 does not go right into Portsmouth.

The M275 goes into Portsmouth, like the M271 goes into Millbrook.

Actually to be completely precise the M271 goes into Redbridge!

So FM2 what/why was the Liverpool leader bleating on about the M27? thanks I get a bit lost working out where Millbrook Green Park estate starts & where Redbridge finishes.As I know that old Millbrook ( original area is down near you,I lived there)

For pity sake wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Unless I've got my motorways wrong isn't the true benefitor of the M27 Portsmouth?
As far as I knew this was widened to allow more traffic for their ferry services & Naval & cruise ports.
Doesn't the motorway go right into Portsmouth/Southsea?



i don't think you can call Millbrook Rd or West Quay rd( western esplanade?) A motorway can you?
I think the Liverpool guy needs to take this up with the Leader of Portsmouth City Council

It's more likely that he is referring to the widening of the M27 between junctions 4 and 3, the primary objective of which was to ease the flow of traffic to and from Southampton on the M271 during peak times.
The jury is still out over whether it's worked.

So this was not money to improve our docks viability then?
it was as the M25 widening merely a way to get the traffic moving quickly?

At least Scousers know how to have a laugh and a joke. Miserable lot down here. I'm going back when we get approval for the cruise terminal.

steviem wrote:
At least Scousers know how to have a laugh and a joke. Miserable lot down here. I'm going back when we get approval for the cruise terminal.

Mate it all depends where you drink/socialise go to a Rugby club & you'll find good banter & people who are up for a laugh

Let's face it again Southampton is one dump nothing to offer a tourist just a gatewate terminal for London, who in the right mind would want to visit there? lests be totally honest about this and it fact!!!
Liverpool is a much better place more to offer a visiter, crowned best tourist city in the uk and best place again in uk for nightlife lowest crime rate in all major uk cities.and what this city again has planned next year is fantastic. the amount of private investement poring into Liverpool now .Southampton eat your heart out on a plastic tray!!!!!!

Let's face it again Southampton is one dump nothing to offer a tourist just a gatewate terminal for London, who in the right mind would want to visit there? lests be totally honest about this and it fact!!!
Liverpool is a much better place more to offer a visiter, crowned best tourist city in the uk and best place again in uk for nightlife lowest crime rate in all major uk cities.and what this city again has planned next year is fantastic. the amount of private investement poring into Liverpool now .Southampton eat your heart out on a plastic tray!!!!!!

I rec came bk from Southampton to Liverpool and my god the difference , Liverpool just blew southampton out of the water in regards to the people and the city, i wouldnt even call southampton a city just a one horse town type of place with nothing going on, i can see why they are worried.
Liverpool people are friendly, stylish, warm and approachable,unlike people from southampton miserable,dull,unapr
oachable with no dress sence.and judgeing by some of there bitter jealous comments on here they have the iq of a peanut!!!!

I rec came bk from Southampton to Liverpool and my god the difference , Liverpool just blew southampton out of the water in regards to the people and the city, i wouldnt even call southampton a city just a one horse town type of place with nothing going on, i can see why they are worried.
Liverpool people are friendly, stylish, warm and approachable,unlike people from southampton miserable,dull,unapr
oachable with no dress sence.and judgeing by some of there bitter jealous comments on here they have the i.q of a peanut!!!!

Oh and another thing, was'nt the head of your council Clr Royston Smith driving with no car insurance..now that is breaking the LAW!!!
and that is someone who represents Southampton!!!erm?i rest my case....

watch and weep!!!!!
http://youtu.be/CQ6P
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ronn12 wrote:
Oh and another thing, was'nt the head of your council Clr Royston Smith driving with no car insurance..now that is breaking the LAW!!!
and that is someone who represents Southampton!!!erm?i rest my case....

Did you get your education in Liverpool?
I make a few spelling mistakes but nearly every word you've printed is spelt wrong.

ronn12 wrote:
Let's face it again Southampton is one dump nothing to offer a tourist just a gatewate terminal for London, who in the right mind would want to visit there? lests be totally honest about this and it fact!!!
Liverpool is a much better place more to offer a visiter, crowned best tourist city in the uk and best place again in uk for nightlife lowest crime rate in all major uk cities.and what this city again has planned next year is fantastic. the amount of private investement poring into Liverpool now .Southampton eat your heart out on a plastic tray!!!!!!

Why don't you try & take a look at the brochure "Vision For The Future"?
if you do you will see how good this city could become & all with private money.
No one should knock Liverpool the city what we're knocking is the way you lied to get the grants.
If you had read this council & ABP's objections that was the reason for all objections & they've said if Liverpool pays it all back then fine let the competition begin.
So why do people like you come on here & slag down this city? if your from here why not move?
I couldn't live in a city I detest so much so how can you?
If your from Liverpool you should have watched channel 4's Property scandal.
What a great council you've got! clearing people out of their homes leaving them derelict or knocking them down & putting nothing in there place.
If the people want to live there leave alone just modernise as our council is trying to do

Billions are being spent on Liverpool whether this happens or not,this is the be all and end all to you lot,it was correctly pointed out,you're a one horse town.

Who's laughing now wrote:
Billions are being spent on Liverpool whether this happens or not,this is the be all and end all to you lot,it was correctly pointed out,you're a one horse town.

Just watched a Sky1 program about a family from Speke liverpool.
The son said he hates liverpool as people don't talk to you.
The mother the daughter with child the sons girlfriend all on the dole saying they would love to work but get more on the dole.
This was a great advert for Liverpool & some would say typifies the city's mindset.
The council leaders lied to get something for nothing yet cry when others who've worked hard to get where they are cry foul.
Explain this to me if Liverpool has so much work to offer how come this whole family is on the dole?
Also explain to me where have all the people gone? you have whole estates empty & have gone from what was the English second city ( now it's Birmingham) to a city with just as many empty homes as full ones

loosehead wrote:

ronn12 wrote:
Oh and another thing, was'nt the head of your council Clr Royston Smith driving with no car insurance..now that is breaking the LAW!!!
and that is someone who represents Southampton!!!erm?i rest my case....

Did you get your education in Liverpool?
I make a few spelling mistakes but nearly every word you've printed is spelt wrong.

i am 6ft 2" Mr and typing this on mobile phone ?
hense spelling mistake's you idiot.
i got my education in London and graduated in Liverpool!!

liverpooldevelopment
summary2011

ronn12 wrote:

loosehead wrote:

ronn12 wrote:
Oh and another thing, was'nt the head of your council Clr Royston Smith driving with no car insurance..now that is breaking the LAW!!!
and that is someone who represents Southampton!!!erm?i rest my case....

Did you get your education in Liverpool?
I make a few spelling mistakes but nearly every word you've printed is spelt wrong.

i am 6ft 2" Mr and typing this on mobile phone ?
hense spelling mistake's you idiot.
i got my education in London and graduated in Liverpool!!

liverpooldevelopment

summary2011

I'm 6ft 2' is that suppose to mean something?
Got your education in London & graduated in Liverpool?
So your not just a bit biased towards Liverpool then?
My Father & relatives come from Liverpool & I would wish the city only the best but I feel they've been let down by their council leaders.
Huge sway of houses forcibly cleared out & then left empty.
Asking & receiving grants to build a turnaround facility whilst knowing that's not what you wanted to use it for.
ABP, Southampton & several other Major cruise ports have said why didn't you talk to us & with agreement we could have gone with you to get these grants why did you lie to get them?
That is what this City is against so why does this councillor still try to avoid the point,
Oh! I hope that reference wasn't a veiled way of a threat? It doesn't bother me how tall or big you are I will post what I think on this subject & if I feel I'm being threatened in any way I can always report it.
If you would like a sensible debate on the subject okay but less of the Moron calling please

loosehead wrote:

ronn12 wrote:

loosehead wrote:

ronn12 wrote:
Oh and another thing, was'nt the head of your council Clr Royston Smith driving with no car insurance..now that is breaking the LAW!!!
and that is someone who represents Southampton!!!erm?i rest my case....

Did you get your education in Liverpool?
I make a few spelling mistakes but nearly every word you've printed is spelt wrong.

i am 6ft 2" Mr and typing this on mobile phone ?
hense spelling mistake's you idiot.
i got my education in London and graduated in Liverpool!!

liverpooldevelopment


summary2011

I'm 6ft 2' is that suppose to mean something?
Got your education in London & graduated in Liverpool?
So your not just a bit biased towards Liverpool then?
My Father & relatives come from Liverpool & I would wish the city only the best but I feel they've been let down by their council leaders.
Huge sway of houses forcibly cleared out & then left empty.
Asking & receiving grants to build a turnaround facility whilst knowing that's not what you wanted to use it for.
ABP, Southampton & several other Major cruise ports have said why didn't you talk to us & with agreement we could have gone with you to get these grants why did you lie to get them?
That is what this City is against so why does this councillor still try to avoid the point,
Oh! I hope that reference wasn't a veiled way of a threat? It doesn't bother me how tall or big you are I will post what I think on this subject & if I feel I'm being threatened in any way I can always report it.
If you would like a sensible debate on the subject okay but less of the Moron calling please

threat?
Dont be so stupid and grow up!!!
Lets be honest Southampton is greedy,it controls 75% of the cruise market in this country which is wrong!
Liverpool would create healthy competition and increase the cruise industry within the uk, more jobs i.e no brainer really!!
Southampton spent £50m of taxpayers money to improve roads to access to it's own ports and then has the cheek to bang it's drum about liverpool, when liverpool have offered to pay it back, and also another this southampton should butt out and start worrying about improving it's own town up...:-)

ronn12 wrote:

loosehead wrote:

ronn12 wrote:

loosehead wrote:

ronn12 wrote:
Oh and another thing, was'nt the head of your council Clr Royston Smith driving with no car insurance..now that is breaking the LAW!!!
and that is someone who represents Southampton!!!erm?i rest my case....

Did you get your education in Liverpool?
I make a few spelling mistakes but nearly every word you've printed is spelt wrong.

i am 6ft 2" Mr and typing this on mobile phone ?
hense spelling mistake's you idiot.
i got my education in London and graduated in Liverpool!!

liverpooldevelopment



summary2011

I'm 6ft 2' is that suppose to mean something?
Got your education in London & graduated in Liverpool?
So your not just a bit biased towards Liverpool then?
My Father & relatives come from Liverpool & I would wish the city only the best but I feel they've been let down by their council leaders.
Huge sway of houses forcibly cleared out & then left empty.
Asking & receiving grants to build a turnaround facility whilst knowing that's not what you wanted to use it for.
ABP, Southampton & several other Major cruise ports have said why didn't you talk to us & with agreement we could have gone with you to get these grants why did you lie to get them?
That is what this City is against so why does this councillor still try to avoid the point,
Oh! I hope that reference wasn't a veiled way of a threat? It doesn't bother me how tall or big you are I will post what I think on this subject & if I feel I'm being threatened in any way I can always report it.
If you would like a sensible debate on the subject okay but less of the Moron calling please

threat?
Dont be so stupid and grow up!!!
Lets be honest Southampton is greedy,it controls 75% of the cruise market in this country which is wrong!
Liverpool would create healthy competition and increase the cruise industry within the uk, more jobs i.e no brainer really!!
Southampton spent £50m of taxpayers money to improve roads to access to it's own ports and then has the cheek to bang it's drum about liverpool, when liverpool have offered to pay it back, and also another this southampton should butt out and start worrying about improving it's own town up...:-)

Sorry but the M27 doesn't come into Southampton & the M271 stops at Redbridge which is an outskirt of the city.
You came on here stating how tall you are? what relevance has that to this article?
I could only take it you were issuing a veiled threat,You say you weren't & tell me to grow up? Why did you mention your height?
Avonmouth & Poole plus Portsmouth are trying to enter the cruise industry,Portsmouth backed your bid but have now changed sides & are against you getting start & finish permission.
This city & ABP said why did you approach a city that was trying to start a cruise business why didn't you talk to established ports?
Even now they say pay back the grants that you admit lying to get ( councillor admitted) & fine let's have a fair competition.
you come on here slag down Southampton at the same time that Channel4 show a program about exactly how caring your council really is by turfing people out of their terraced homes & breaking up communities.
You have Aintree, you have a container port you have a turnaround facility you also have tourists trying to remember the sixties.
Why are you borrowing more money to dredge the Mersey whilst homes are derelict & the money could have been spent on modernising them. Also ABP Southampton doesn't get government money to dredge Southampton water so why are you?

loosehead wrote:

ronn12 wrote:

loosehead wrote:

ronn12 wrote:

loosehead wrote:

ronn12 wrote:
Oh and another thing, was'nt the head of your council Clr Royston Smith driving with no car insurance..now that is breaking the LAW!!!
and that is someone who represents Southampton!!!erm?i rest my case....

Did you get your education in Liverpool?
I make a few spelling mistakes but nearly every word you've printed is spelt wrong.

i am 6ft 2" Mr and typing this on mobile phone ?
hense spelling mistake's you idiot.
i got my education in London and graduated in Liverpool!!

liverpooldevelopment




summary2011

I'm 6ft 2' is that suppose to mean something?
Got your education in London & graduated in Liverpool?
So your not just a bit biased towards Liverpool then?
My Father & relatives come from Liverpool & I would wish the city only the best but I feel they've been let down by their council leaders.
Huge sway of houses forcibly cleared out & then left empty.
Asking & receiving grants to build a turnaround facility whilst knowing that's not what you wanted to use it for.
ABP, Southampton & several other Major cruise ports have said why didn't you talk to us & with agreement we could have gone with you to get these grants why did you lie to get them?
That is what this City is against so why does this councillor still try to avoid the point,
Oh! I hope that reference wasn't a veiled way of a threat? It doesn't bother me how tall or big you are I will post what I think on this subject & if I feel I'm being threatened in any way I can always report it.
If you would like a sensible debate on the subject okay but less of the Moron calling please

threat?
Dont be so stupid and grow up!!!
Lets be honest Southampton is greedy,it controls 75% of the cruise market in this country which is wrong!
Liverpool would create healthy competition and increase the cruise industry within the uk, more jobs i.e no brainer really!!
Southampton spent £50m of taxpayers money to improve roads to access to it's own ports and then has the cheek to bang it's drum about liverpool, when liverpool have offered to pay it back, and also another this southampton should butt out and start worrying about improving it's own town up...:-)

Sorry but the M27 doesn't come into Southampton & the M271 stops at Redbridge which is an outskirt of the city.
You came on here stating how tall you are? what relevance has that to this article?
I could only take it you were issuing a veiled threat,You say you weren't & tell me to grow up? Why did you mention your height?
Avonmouth & Poole plus Portsmouth are trying to enter the cruise industry,Portsmouth backed your bid but have now changed sides & are against you getting start & finish permission.
This city & ABP said why did you approach a city that was trying to start a cruise business why didn't you talk to established ports?
Even now they say pay back the grants that you admit lying to get ( councillor admitted) & fine let's have a fair competition.
you come on here slag down Southampton at the same time that Channel4 show a program about exactly how caring your council really is by turfing people out of their terraced homes & breaking up communities.
You have Aintree, you have a container port you have a turnaround facility you also have tourists trying to remember the sixties.
Why are you borrowing more money to dredge the Mersey whilst homes are derelict & the money could have been spent on modernising them. Also ABP Southampton doesn't get government money to dredge Southampton water so why are you?

Aintree and the Container Port are not in Liverpool, they are in Sefton i.e Sefton Council. You should be aware of this when you are blaming all things Liverpool i.e it is not Liverpool CC that is getting the money to dredge owing to the fact that Seaforth Container Terminal is in Sefton. Please get your facts right.