Spectacular end to Diamond Jubilee celebrations (From Daily Echo)
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Fireworks over QM2, Queen Elizabeth and Queen Victoria
7:00am Wednesday 6th June 2012 in News
Spectacular end to Diamond Jubilee celebrations
As dawn's first light broke over Southampton Water they arrived, one by one, in a regal procession signalling the start of an unforgettable day as the city sent loyal greetings to the Queen on her Diamond Jubilee.
It was be one of those remarkable events, which only Southampton, with its historic waterfront, long maritime heritage and unrivalled, shipping expertise, can stage, and stages so well.
Never before had these three ships of the Cunard fleet gathered together in Southampton on the same day, not only to acknowledge the Queen's jubilee on behalf of the British Merchant Marine but also to salute the city which has been the company's traditional home port for so long.
As the Royal rendezvous of Queen Mary 2, Queen Victoria, and Queen Elizabeth took place there was a loud, early morning alarm call for Southampton and the surrounding area as the vessels sounded their whistles sending out a barrage of blasts.
The only disappointment of the day was the cancellation of the aerobatic display by the RAF's Red Arrows, which were forced to stay on the ground by bad weather conditions over Southampton Water, although later in the evening a glittering firework display cascaded over the ships as they prepared to set sail again.
But the nine Red Arrows pilots did join a host of celebrities on board Queen Elizabeth for the dramatic fireworks display last night.
Also on board were television presenters Michael Buerk, Jenny Bond and Esther Rantzen.
First to make her dramatic entrance into Southampton Water yesterday was the Cunard flagship, Queen Mary 2, and appropriately, for an official Royal Mail Ship, she made a “special delivery'' of a100 foot long banner emblazoned with the message: “Congratulations Ma'am''.
By the time QM2 was off Fawley scores of yachts, passenger ferries, tugs and leisure craft had formed an armada of boats which escorted the 151,000 ton vessel into the docks.
Next was Queen Victoria, followed by her sister-ship, Queen Elizabeth, and together the two vessels came bow-to-bow alongside the Western Docks.
Meanwhile QM2, with Abba's hit song “Dancing Queen'' playing over her public address system, was turning near the container terminal before retracing her course back down Southampton Water to meet up with other two Cunarders with a fanfare from the powerful whistles of all three ships as passengers and crew lined the decks waving Union Jacks.
As QM2 drew alongside Queen Victoria and Queen Elizabeth she slowed, almost to a standstill, to allow the Cunard trio to be closer together than they had ever been seen before.
On either side of Southampton Water, at Hythe, Marchwood, Town Quay and Mayflower Park, thousands of people lined every vantage point to watch the unique occasion.
So many people came to Southampton to see the Cunard “Queens'' together , that all hotel rooms, in and around the city, had been fully booked for months, while operators of pleasure craft, taking sightseers around the docks to see the ships, reported the busiest day so far this year.
Later in another first, all three masters of the ships met on the quayside, in the shadow of Queen Elizabeth, at the City Cruise Terminal, representing a total of 120 years of sea-going experience.
Commodore Christopher Rynd, in command of Queen Elizabeth, and Cunard's senior master, said: “The early morning arrival of the three ships was a spectacular sight, not just for all the people on the shore but also for our passengers and crew members.
“It is a rare opportunity for the whole Cunard fleet to be in Southampton on the same day and it was made extra special as we were able to pay tribute to the Queen on her Diamond Jubilee.''
For Captain Kevin Oprey, who comes from a long line of Southampton seafarers, and is now in command of QM2, it was a memorable occasion as he grew up close to the port, and as a boy spent most of his time sailing on the Solent and watching the liners as they arrived and departed at the city's docks.
Cunard has always enjoyed a close association with the Queen as during her reign she officially named, the former legendary liner, Queen Elizabeth 2 in the 1960s, and then, in more recent years, visiting Southampton to perform the same ceremony for QM2 in January, 2004, and Queen Elizabeth in October, 2010.
Although this was an historic day for the port and Cunard, it was business as usual for the crew of the three ships as they prepared the vessels for more than 13,000 passengers to embark and disembark while hundreds of tons of food and stores were also taken on board the three Queens.
QM2 departed for a short five night cruise, Queen Victoria set a course for the Baltic, and Queen Elizabeth was beginning a cruise around the Mediterranean.
The only other time three Cunarders were in Southampton together on the same day was on April 22, 2008 when QM2 and Queen Victoria joined Queen Elizabeth 2 in the port.
Comments(84)
Phantomdoll
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7:42am Wed 6 Jun 12
bigfella777 wrote:Sorry, I don't understand what you're getting at. Do please explain
Yes and I thought that herd of flying pigs was really good too but the piste de la resistance for me was when Cunard broke 5 loaves and 2 fishes up and fed the 11,000.
Ted Rogers
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7:52am Wed 6 Jun 12
bigfella777
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8:10am Wed 6 Jun 12
Phantomdoll wrote:I was referring to the spectacular finale to the day which didn't happen.
bigfella777 wrote:Sorry, I don't understand what you're getting at. Do please explain
Yes and I thought that herd of flying pigs was really good too but the piste de la resistance for me was when Cunard broke 5 loaves and 2 fishes up and fed the 11,000.
rightway
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8:26am Wed 6 Jun 12
All those incredibly sad people who’ve expressed their love for a family of inbreeds (again who they’ve never met) take a good look at yourself and get a life.
Swearing allegiance and love to total strangers whether in the public eye or not is called stalking.
robich
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8:29am Wed 6 Jun 12
Don't know how many (few) people attended the wet events during the day. And the majority of the fireworks disappeared into the low clouds as a waste of thousands of pounds. Just the noises of the bangs and a few flashes in the clouds.
Big Mac
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8:35am Wed 6 Jun 12
OSPREYSAINT
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8:40am Wed 6 Jun 12
Ted Rogers wrote:Yes, the rest of us can rejoin you in being miserable, we have had our fun, the weather ruined some of it, no one to blame, but otherwise it was a lot of fun.
Let's hope that this is the end of all this Jubilee nonsense now. Although another day of filtering out the sycophants and ball licking news reports will be necessary.
pod
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8:43am Wed 6 Jun 12
bigfella777 wrote:still moaning!!!!!!
Yes and I thought that herd of flying pigs was really good too but the piste de la resistance for me was when Cunard broke 5 loaves and 2 fishes up and fed the 11,000.
pod
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8:47am Wed 6 Jun 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I agree, I have had a wonderful weekend in London, met some lovely people, made some good memories (and you don't make those by sitting in front of the telly), and this weekend I am going camping, hope the weathers good.
Ted Rogers wrote:Yes, the rest of us can rejoin you in being miserable, we have had our fun, the weather ruined some of it, no one to blame, but otherwise it was a lot of fun.
Let's hope that this is the end of all this Jubilee nonsense now. Although another day of filtering out the sycophants and ball licking news reports will be necessary.
OSPREYSAINT
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8:48am Wed 6 Jun 12
robich wrote:So Cunard were to blame for the weather? Get a life you miserable sods. My goodness rightway you seem to be out of touch with reality.
How can Cunard make a positive story out of the washout? Don't know how many (few) people attended the wet events during the day. And the majority of the fireworks disappeared into the low clouds as a waste of thousands of pounds. Just the noises of the bangs and a few flashes in the clouds.
chunky_lover
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8:56am Wed 6 Jun 12
jiblet
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8:57am Wed 6 Jun 12
rightway wrote:The best thing you can do is get on the first plane out of here. I have never heard anything so disgracefully disrespectful!!!
Now that’s it’s finally over and all the royalist sheep have had a full weekend bowing and fawning over an old woman they don’t know, will probably never meet and who wouldn’t care if you lived or died, can we all accept kings and queens belong in fairy tales and history books and that is where they should remain. All those incredibly sad people who’ve expressed their love for a family of inbreeds (again who they’ve never met) take a good look at yourself and get a life. Swearing allegiance and love to total strangers whether in the public eye or not is called stalking.
THEKILLER
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9:16am Wed 6 Jun 12
Ant Smoking MP
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9:16am Wed 6 Jun 12
cliffwalker
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9:52am Wed 6 Jun 12
bigfella777
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9:52am Wed 6 Jun 12
rightway wrote:100 % correct. Its hilarious how all the little people in this country think that the Royals care about them, I swear if somebody said go and worship this golden calf they would all go and do it.
Now that’s it’s finally over and all the royalist sheep have had a full weekend bowing and fawning over an old woman they don’t know, will probably never meet and who wouldn’t care if you lived or died, can we all accept kings and queens belong in fairy tales and history books and that is where they should remain.
All those incredibly sad people who’ve expressed their love for a family of inbreeds (again who they’ve never met) take a good look at yourself and get a life.
Swearing allegiance and love to total strangers whether in the public eye or not is called stalking.
Yeah I was there,I slept in a tent in a park,all me families ere and me nan,We've all got tattoos of the Queen on our bums we ave.
Thankfully some people can see this for the sham that it is.
Lone Ranger.
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9:52am Wed 6 Jun 12
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Pity there is not a Sea Museum down by Mayflower Park to entertain the crowds !!
peenut81
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9:58am Wed 6 Jun 12
ohec
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10:31am Wed 6 Jun 12
southy
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10:43am Wed 6 Jun 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:They where low level Fireworks all ways are for this sort of thing by the water, that is so it can only been seen near the water side, and not be seen all over the city.
robich wrote:So Cunard were to blame for the weather? Get a life you miserable sods. My goodness rightway you seem to be out of touch with reality.
How can Cunard make a positive story out of the washout? Don't know how many (few) people attended the wet events during the day. And the majority of the fireworks disappeared into the low clouds as a waste of thousands of pounds. Just the noises of the bangs and a few flashes in the clouds.
I love it on Nov 5th when we do get low level clouds with high level fireworks it lights up the clouds and produce some very colour full pictures.
loosehead
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10:55am Wed 6 Jun 12
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
southy
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11:09am Wed 6 Jun 12
loosehead wrote:There are more starving peasants in the UK than there is in Capitalist Commonist aka Stalist North Korea
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
rightway
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11:16am Wed 6 Jun 12
jiblet wrote:Firstly, why should I leave, unlike her mage, I have payed tax all my adult life and have never begged the government for handouts to sustain my life of luxury, again unlike her mage and family.
rightway wrote: Now that’s it’s finally over and all the royalist sheep have had a full weekend bowing and fawning over an old woman they don’t know, will probably never meet and who wouldn’t care if you lived or died, can we all accept kings and queens belong in fairy tales and history books and that is where they should remain. All those incredibly sad people who’ve expressed their love for a family of inbreeds (again who they’ve never met) take a good look at yourself and get a life. Swearing allegiance and love to total strangers whether in the public eye or not is called stalking.The best thing you can do is get on the first plane out of here. I have never heard anything so disgracefully disrespectful!!!
Secondly, if this is the most "disgracefully disrespectful" thing you have ever heard, I suggest you get out more, you must have led a very sheltered life.
SaintM
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11:24am Wed 6 Jun 12
Teucer2000
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11:35am Wed 6 Jun 12
beesdee
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12:02pm Wed 6 Jun 12
bigfella777 wrote:I'm not familiar with that ski resort.
Yes and I thought that herd of flying pigs was really good too but the piste de la resistance for me was when Cunard broke 5 loaves and 2 fishes up and fed the 11,000.
TheMekon
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12:35pm Wed 6 Jun 12
Long Live the Queen and her family, shame that nothing was done i Basingstoke for her.
Basingstoke Rules!!!
Mekon towers
opera phantom
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12:52pm Wed 6 Jun 12
rightway wrote:You are the sad one
Now that’s it’s finally over and all the royalist sheep have had a full weekend bowing and fawning over an old woman they don’t know, will probably never meet and who wouldn’t care if you lived or died, can we all accept kings and queens belong in fairy tales and history books and that is where they should remain.
All those incredibly sad people who’ve expressed their love for a family of inbreeds (again who they’ve never met) take a good look at yourself and get a life.
Swearing allegiance and love to total strangers whether in the public eye or not is called stalking.
The republicans are just hacked off because their dream will never come true. You get a life.
cliffwalker
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12:52pm Wed 6 Jun 12
loosehead wrote:I don't approve of the North Korean monarchy either.
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
I believe France is the most visited (by tourists) country in Europe. They got rid of their royal parasites 200 years ago.
soton-mike80
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12:54pm Wed 6 Jun 12
loosehead wrote:There is a lovely bulk carrier loading lots of scrap metal on the Itchen today close to the Northam Bridge... perhaps we could ask the master to drop those degenerates off in North Korea for us?
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
George4th
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12:54pm Wed 6 Jun 12
loosehead wrote:Good post Loosehead.
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
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My experience of "Republicans" is that they are usually unhappy negative people who whinge, moan, criticise and have no ambition to achieve for themselves.
Ant Smoking MP
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1:00pm Wed 6 Jun 12
George4th wrote:My experience of Royalists/Tories is that the exploit people especially the vulnerable unemployed.
loosehead wrote:Good post Loosehead.
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
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My experience of "Republicans" is that they are usually unhappy negative people who whinge, moan, criticise and have no ambition to achieve for themselves.
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http://politicalscra
pbook.net/2012/06/ju
bilee-stewards-tomor
rows-people-debbie-s
cott/
southy
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1:11pm Wed 6 Jun 12
Ant Smoking MP wrote:Very true
George4th wrote:My experience of Royalists/Tories is that the exploit people especially the vulnerable unemployed.
loosehead wrote:Good post Loosehead.
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
>
My experience of "Republicans" is that they are usually unhappy negative people who whinge, moan, criticise and have no ambition to achieve for themselves.
.
http://politicalscra
pbook.net/2012/06/ju
bilee-stewards-tomor
rows-people-debbie-s
cott/
George4th
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1:16pm Wed 6 Jun 12
Ant Smoking MP wrote:You are repeating an error and spreading malicious media reporting!
George4th wrote:My experience of Royalists/Tories is that the exploit people especially the vulnerable unemployed.
loosehead wrote:Good post Loosehead.
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
>
My experience of "Republicans" is that they are usually unhappy negative people who whinge, moan, criticise and have no ambition to achieve for themselves.
.
http://politicalscra
pbook.net/2012/06/ju
bilee-stewards-tomor
rows-people-debbie-s
cott/
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If you care to read and understand the principle of the program that these people were on, you would understand the benefit to these people - all of whom are volunteers.
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However, clearly, there was an error made - the Coach Driver was 2 hours early!!! He should have let them remain on the coach until the company staff arrived!
southy
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1:21pm Wed 6 Jun 12
opera phantom wrote:You do not know that the chance grows even more with time, and theres a very good chance that the Queen could be your last compleat rain of any royal
rightway wrote:You are the sad one
Now that’s it’s finally over and all the royalist sheep have had a full weekend bowing and fawning over an old woman they don’t know, will probably never meet and who wouldn’t care if you lived or died, can we all accept kings and queens belong in fairy tales and history books and that is where they should remain.
All those incredibly sad people who’ve expressed their love for a family of inbreeds (again who they’ve never met) take a good look at yourself and get a life.
Swearing allegiance and love to total strangers whether in the public eye or not is called stalking.
The republicans are just hacked off because their dream will never come true. You get a life.
southy
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1:24pm Wed 6 Jun 12
George4th wrote:Its not a rumour but facts.
Ant Smoking MP wrote:You are repeating an error and spreading malicious media reporting!
George4th wrote:My experience of Royalists/Tories is that the exploit people especially the vulnerable unemployed.
loosehead wrote:Good post Loosehead.
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
>
My experience of "Republicans" is that they are usually unhappy negative people who whinge, moan, criticise and have no ambition to achieve for themselves.
.
http://politicalscra
pbook.net/2012/06/ju
bilee-stewards-tomor
rows-people-debbie-s
cott/
>
If you care to read and understand the principle of the program that these people were on, you would understand the benefit to these people - all of whom are volunteers.
>
However, clearly, there was an error made - the Coach Driver was 2 hours early!!! He should have let them remain on the coach until the company staff arrived!
George4th
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1:29pm Wed 6 Jun 12
How can a non existent rumour be a fact?!!!
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Even more amusing coming from someone who wouldn't recognise a fact or a truth even if it hit him in the Trotskys!!
southy
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1:33pm Wed 6 Jun 12
George4th wrote:because it was never a rumour in the first place, thats is how come it is fact
What rumour? !!
How can a non existent rumour be a fact?!!!
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Even more amusing coming from someone who wouldn't recognise a fact or a truth even if it hit him in the Trotskys!!
rightway
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1:46pm Wed 6 Jun 12
opera phantom wrote:It is not a dream it is a fact.
rightway wrote: Now that’s it’s finally over and all the royalist sheep have had a full weekend bowing and fawning over an old woman they don’t know, will probably never meet and who wouldn’t care if you lived or died, can we all accept kings and queens belong in fairy tales and history books and that is where they should remain. All those incredibly sad people who’ve expressed their love for a family of inbreeds (again who they’ve never met) take a good look at yourself and get a life. Swearing allegiance and love to total strangers whether in the public eye or not is called stalking.You are the sad one The republicans are just hacked off because their dream will never come true. You get a life.
There have always been kings and queens throughout history but as the population became more educated democracy was formed.
People realised that there was no such thing as a divine right to rule, kings and queens were the first school yard bullies who robbed and stole from those around them, we are all born equal but so long as there are sycophants some will always be more equal than others.
George4th
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1:52pm Wed 6 Jun 12
southy wrote:The error was the coach driver's.
George4th wrote:because it was never a rumour in the first place, thats is how come it is fact
What rumour? !!
How can a non existent rumour be a fact?!!!
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Even more amusing coming from someone who wouldn't recognise a fact or a truth even if it hit him in the Trotskys!!
Spreading malicious media reporting is what Ant was doing.
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I never ever said it was rumour!!! As I said "how can a non existent rumour be a fact which is what you were saying?!
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It is amusing that you would be telling me about facts! It is my belief that you are the third Grimm brother!
Huffter
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1:56pm Wed 6 Jun 12
rightway wrote:Shame - I have to disagree with you - hope that's OK. Perhaps you can tell us what you've achieved in your life and we can compare it with the achievements of the Royal Family?
Now that’s it’s finally over and all the royalist sheep have had a full weekend bowing and fawning over an old woman they don’t know, will probably never meet and who wouldn’t care if you lived or died, can we all accept kings and queens belong in fairy tales and history books and that is where they should remain. All those incredibly sad people who’ve expressed their love for a family of inbreeds (again who they’ve never met) take a good look at yourself and get a life. Swearing allegiance and love to total strangers whether in the public eye or not is called stalking.
southy
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2:16pm Wed 6 Jun 12
George4th wrote:still the same George
southy wrote:The error was the coach driver's.
George4th wrote:because it was never a rumour in the first place, thats is how come it is fact
What rumour? !!
How can a non existent rumour be a fact?!!!
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Even more amusing coming from someone who wouldn't recognise a fact or a truth even if it hit him in the Trotskys!!
Spreading malicious media reporting is what Ant was doing.
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I never ever said it was rumour!!! As I said "how can a non existent rumour be a fact which is what you were saying?!
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It is amusing that you would be telling me about facts! It is my belief that you are the third Grimm brother!
No the story is fact and was reported to be so. there fore it can not be a rumour as it really did happen.
The Caoch was book in for certain starting time and finish time.
It was the Organisers that book the coach for those times, the coach driver kept to the contract so it was not his fault if he stays he would not get paid plus he would of lost money for not being able to do his next job that he was contacted to do.
The workers was not volunteers, they was order to do it or lose there benefits.
rightway
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2:20pm Wed 6 Jun 12
Huffter wrote:I think you may be getting a little confused between what someone has achieved and what was handed on a plate.
rightway wrote: Now that’s it’s finally over and all the royalist sheep have had a full weekend bowing and fawning over an old woman they don’t know, will probably never meet and who wouldn’t care if you lived or died, can we all accept kings and queens belong in fairy tales and history books and that is where they should remain. All those incredibly sad people who’ve expressed their love for a family of inbreeds (again who they’ve never met) take a good look at yourself and get a life. Swearing allegiance and love to total strangers whether in the public eye or not is called stalking.Shame - I have to disagree with you - hope that's OK. Perhaps you can tell us what you've achieved in your life and we can compare it with the achievements of the Royal Family?
But please feel free to tell us all what any member of the royal family has achieved of there own back,without relying on royal connections, lets start with Edward..............
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Ant Smoking MP
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2:20pm Wed 6 Jun 12
George4th wrote:Ah.....'malicious media reporting', that old chestnut!!
Ant Smoking MP wrote:You are repeating an error and spreading malicious media reporting!
George4th wrote:My experience of Royalists/Tories is that the exploit people especially the vulnerable unemployed.
loosehead wrote:Good post Loosehead.
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
>
My experience of "Republicans" is that they are usually unhappy negative people who whinge, moan, criticise and have no ambition to achieve for themselves.
.
http://politicalscra
pbook.net/2012/06/ju
bilee-stewards-tomor
rows-people-debbie-s
cott/
>
If you care to read and understand the principle of the program that these people were on, you would understand the benefit to these people - all of whom are volunteers.
>
However, clearly, there was an error made - the Coach Driver was 2 hours early!!! He should have let them remain on the coach until the company staff arrived!
southy
says...
2:29pm Wed 6 Jun 12
Ant Smoking MP wrote:Loads is coming out now that was suppress by the tory government of what went on during the olympics like that lot that got told to sleep rough under a bridge.
George4th wrote:Ah.....'malicious media reporting', that old chestnut!!
Ant Smoking MP wrote:You are repeating an error and spreading malicious media reporting!
George4th wrote:My experience of Royalists/Tories is that the exploit people especially the vulnerable unemployed.
loosehead wrote:Good post Loosehead.
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
>
My experience of "Republicans" is that they are usually unhappy negative people who whinge, moan, criticise and have no ambition to achieve for themselves.
.
http://politicalscra
pbook.net/2012/06/ju
bilee-stewards-tomor
rows-people-debbie-s
cott/
>
If you care to read and understand the principle of the program that these people were on, you would understand the benefit to these people - all of whom are volunteers.
>
However, clearly, there was an error made - the Coach Driver was 2 hours early!!! He should have let them remain on the coach until the company staff arrived!
George4th
says...
2:29pm Wed 6 Jun 12
southy wrote:Yea, right!
George4th wrote:still the same George
southy wrote:The error was the coach driver's.
George4th wrote:because it was never a rumour in the first place, thats is how come it is fact
What rumour? !!
How can a non existent rumour be a fact?!!!
>
Even more amusing coming from someone who wouldn't recognise a fact or a truth even if it hit him in the Trotskys!!
Spreading malicious media reporting is what Ant was doing.
>
I never ever said it was rumour!!! As I said "how can a non existent rumour be a fact which is what you were saying?!
>
It is amusing that you would be telling me about facts! It is my belief that you are the third Grimm brother!
No the story is fact and was reported to be so. there fore it can not be a rumour as it really did happen.
The Caoch was book in for certain starting time and finish time.
It was the Organisers that book the coach for those times, the coach driver kept to the contract so it was not his fault if he stays he would not get paid plus he would of lost money for not being able to do his next job that he was contacted to do.
The workers was not volunteers, they was order to do it or lose there benefits.
southy
says...
2:31pm Wed 6 Jun 12
southy wrote:Sorry i ment jubilee am reading about a bit about the olympics now, and the people who will be force to do the same.
Ant Smoking MP wrote:Loads is coming out now that was suppress by the tory government of what went on during the olympics like that lot that got told to sleep rough under a bridge.
George4th wrote:Ah.....'malicious media reporting', that old chestnut!!
Ant Smoking MP wrote:You are repeating an error and spreading malicious media reporting!
George4th wrote:My experience of Royalists/Tories is that the exploit people especially the vulnerable unemployed.
loosehead wrote:Good post Loosehead.
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
>
My experience of "Republicans" is that they are usually unhappy negative people who whinge, moan, criticise and have no ambition to achieve for themselves.
.
http://politicalscra
pbook.net/2012/06/ju
bilee-stewards-tomor
rows-people-debbie-s
cott/
>
If you care to read and understand the principle of the program that these people were on, you would understand the benefit to these people - all of whom are volunteers.
>
However, clearly, there was an error made - the Coach Driver was 2 hours early!!! He should have let them remain on the coach until the company staff arrived!
George4th
says...
2:31pm Wed 6 Jun 12
George4th wrote:One day you will actually write something of your own...........
southy wrote:Yea, right!
George4th wrote:still the same George
southy wrote:The error was the coach driver's.
George4th wrote:because it was never a rumour in the first place, thats is how come it is fact
What rumour? !!
How can a non existent rumour be a fact?!!!
>
Even more amusing coming from someone who wouldn't recognise a fact or a truth even if it hit him in the Trotskys!!
Spreading malicious media reporting is what Ant was doing.
>
I never ever said it was rumour!!! As I said "how can a non existent rumour be a fact which is what you were saying?!
>
It is amusing that you would be telling me about facts! It is my belief that you are the third Grimm brother!
No the story is fact and was reported to be so. there fore it can not be a rumour as it really did happen.
The Caoch was book in for certain starting time and finish time.
It was the Organisers that book the coach for those times, the coach driver kept to the contract so it was not his fault if he stays he would not get paid plus he would of lost money for not being able to do his next job that he was contacted to do.
The workers was not volunteers, they was order to do it or lose there benefits.
southy
says...
2:32pm Wed 6 Jun 12
George4th wrote:Its fact What you don't like about it is that a Tory Peer is tied up with it.
southy wrote:Yea, right!
George4th wrote:still the same George
southy wrote:The error was the coach driver's.
George4th wrote:because it was never a rumour in the first place, thats is how come it is fact
What rumour? !!
How can a non existent rumour be a fact?!!!
>
Even more amusing coming from someone who wouldn't recognise a fact or a truth even if it hit him in the Trotskys!!
Spreading malicious media reporting is what Ant was doing.
>
I never ever said it was rumour!!! As I said "how can a non existent rumour be a fact which is what you were saying?!
>
It is amusing that you would be telling me about facts! It is my belief that you are the third Grimm brother!
No the story is fact and was reported to be so. there fore it can not be a rumour as it really did happen.
The Caoch was book in for certain starting time and finish time.
It was the Organisers that book the coach for those times, the coach driver kept to the contract so it was not his fault if he stays he would not get paid plus he would of lost money for not being able to do his next job that he was contacted to do.
The workers was not volunteers, they was order to do it or lose there benefits.
The truth hurts don't it George
George4th
says...
2:35pm Wed 6 Jun 12
Ant Smoking MP wrote:"that old chestnut"
George4th wrote:Ah.....'malicious media reporting', that old chestnut!!
Ant Smoking MP wrote:You are repeating an error and spreading malicious media reporting!
George4th wrote:My experience of Royalists/Tories is that the exploit people especially the vulnerable unemployed.
loosehead wrote:Good post Loosehead.
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
>
My experience of "Republicans" is that they are usually unhappy negative people who whinge, moan, criticise and have no ambition to achieve for themselves.
.
http://politicalscra
pbook.net/2012/06/ju
bilee-stewards-tomor
rows-people-debbie-s
cott/
>
If you care to read and understand the principle of the program that these people were on, you would understand the benefit to these people - all of whom are volunteers.
>
However, clearly, there was an error made - the Coach Driver was 2 hours early!!! He should have let them remain on the coach until the company staff arrived!
That old chestnut again.........
southy
says...
2:36pm Wed 6 Jun 12
George4th wrote:George What the papers missed out about that lot under the bridge is that the fact that the Socialist Party took meals to them and hot tea and coffee, because that Tory Peer would not even make sure they got a hot food and drink.
George4th wrote:One day you will actually write something of your own...........
southy wrote:Yea, right!
George4th wrote:still the same George
southy wrote:The error was the coach driver's.
George4th wrote:because it was never a rumour in the first place, thats is how come it is fact
What rumour? !!
How can a non existent rumour be a fact?!!!
>
Even more amusing coming from someone who wouldn't recognise a fact or a truth even if it hit him in the Trotskys!!
Spreading malicious media reporting is what Ant was doing.
>
I never ever said it was rumour!!! As I said "how can a non existent rumour be a fact which is what you were saying?!
>
It is amusing that you would be telling me about facts! It is my belief that you are the third Grimm brother!
No the story is fact and was reported to be so. there fore it can not be a rumour as it really did happen.
The Caoch was book in for certain starting time and finish time.
It was the Organisers that book the coach for those times, the coach driver kept to the contract so it was not his fault if he stays he would not get paid plus he would of lost money for not being able to do his next job that he was contacted to do.
The workers was not volunteers, they was order to do it or lose there benefits.
George4th
says...
2:38pm Wed 6 Jun 12
southy wrote:No! What hurts is your none stop droning on every news item in the Daily Echo! We have to listen to your Trotsky views rammed down our throats on every possible occasion.
George4th wrote:Its fact What you don't like about it is that a Tory Peer is tied up with it.
southy wrote:Yea, right!
George4th wrote:still the same George
southy wrote:The error was the coach driver's.
George4th wrote:because it was never a rumour in the first place, thats is how come it is fact
What rumour? !!
How can a non existent rumour be a fact?!!!
>
Even more amusing coming from someone who wouldn't recognise a fact or a truth even if it hit him in the Trotskys!!
Spreading malicious media reporting is what Ant was doing.
>
I never ever said it was rumour!!! As I said "how can a non existent rumour be a fact which is what you were saying?!
>
It is amusing that you would be telling me about facts! It is my belief that you are the third Grimm brother!
No the story is fact and was reported to be so. there fore it can not be a rumour as it really did happen.
The Caoch was book in for certain starting time and finish time.
It was the Organisers that book the coach for those times, the coach driver kept to the contract so it was not his fault if he stays he would not get paid plus he would of lost money for not being able to do his next job that he was contacted to do.
The workers was not volunteers, they was order to do it or lose there benefits.
The truth hurts don't it George
I swear I even saw one in the Births column!!
southy
says...
2:40pm Wed 6 Jun 12
George4th wrote:Makes a change from the normal False Right Wing Propaganda lies that we get fed every moment of the day.
southy wrote:No! What hurts is your none stop droning on every news item in the Daily Echo! We have to listen to your Trotsky views rammed down our throats on every possible occasion.
George4th wrote:Its fact What you don't like about it is that a Tory Peer is tied up with it.
southy wrote:Yea, right!
George4th wrote:still the same George
southy wrote:The error was the coach driver's.
George4th wrote:because it was never a rumour in the first place, thats is how come it is fact
What rumour? !!
How can a non existent rumour be a fact?!!!
>
Even more amusing coming from someone who wouldn't recognise a fact or a truth even if it hit him in the Trotskys!!
Spreading malicious media reporting is what Ant was doing.
>
I never ever said it was rumour!!! As I said "how can a non existent rumour be a fact which is what you were saying?!
>
It is amusing that you would be telling me about facts! It is my belief that you are the third Grimm brother!
No the story is fact and was reported to be so. there fore it can not be a rumour as it really did happen.
The Caoch was book in for certain starting time and finish time.
It was the Organisers that book the coach for those times, the coach driver kept to the contract so it was not his fault if he stays he would not get paid plus he would of lost money for not being able to do his next job that he was contacted to do.
The workers was not volunteers, they was order to do it or lose there benefits.
The truth hurts don't it George
I swear I even saw one in the Births column!!
southy
says...
2:51pm Wed 6 Jun 12
George4th
says...
2:52pm Wed 6 Jun 12
southy wrote:Oh my goodness me! Do you spend ALL your time making up stories? We are talking 2 hours - and only 2 or 3 out of 220 made a complaint!
George4th wrote:George What the papers missed out about that lot under the bridge is that the fact that the Socialist Party took meals to them and hot tea and coffee, because that Tory Peer would not even make sure they got a hot food and drink.
George4th wrote:One day you will actually write something of your own...........
southy wrote:Yea, right!
George4th wrote:still the same George
southy wrote:The error was the coach driver's.
George4th wrote:because it was never a rumour in the first place, thats is how come it is fact
What rumour? !!
How can a non existent rumour be a fact?!!!
>
Even more amusing coming from someone who wouldn't recognise a fact or a truth even if it hit him in the Trotskys!!
Spreading malicious media reporting is what Ant was doing.
>
I never ever said it was rumour!!! As I said "how can a non existent rumour be a fact which is what you were saying?!
>
It is amusing that you would be telling me about facts! It is my belief that you are the third Grimm brother!
No the story is fact and was reported to be so. there fore it can not be a rumour as it really did happen.
The Caoch was book in for certain starting time and finish time.
It was the Organisers that book the coach for those times, the coach driver kept to the contract so it was not his fault if he stays he would not get paid plus he would of lost money for not being able to do his next job that he was contacted to do.
The workers was not volunteers, they was order to do it or lose there benefits.
>
Stop trying to shove your ideology where it isn't wanted. You and your ideologies are what holds back the less fortunate - you should be out there incentivising them to aspire to better things, to get out and get a job, any job. Do what many others do, work for nothing to prove themselves - it's a system that is proven to work - go get the job and don't expect the job to come and get you!. Being on benefits is a one way ticket to nowhere.
>
Your negative approach to life is not an attitude to be passed onto others.
southy
says...
2:58pm Wed 6 Jun 12
George4th wrote:It was not 2 hours, it was all night they spent under the bridge. the coach took them in the morning and pick them up the following eveing has was book. don't lie and try and make it better than it really was, the socialist party was with them over 6 hours, feeding and giving hot drinks to them and also taken interviews, its was a lot more thab 2-3 complainting it was all of them.
southy wrote:Oh my goodness me! Do you spend ALL your time making up stories? We are talking 2 hours - and only 2 or 3 out of 220 made a complaint!
George4th wrote:George What the papers missed out about that lot under the bridge is that the fact that the Socialist Party took meals to them and hot tea and coffee, because that Tory Peer would not even make sure they got a hot food and drink.
George4th wrote:One day you will actually write something of your own...........
southy wrote:Yea, right!
George4th wrote:still the same George
southy wrote:The error was the coach driver's.
George4th wrote:because it was never a rumour in the first place, thats is how come it is fact
What rumour? !!
How can a non existent rumour be a fact?!!!
>
Even more amusing coming from someone who wouldn't recognise a fact or a truth even if it hit him in the Trotskys!!
Spreading malicious media reporting is what Ant was doing.
>
I never ever said it was rumour!!! As I said "how can a non existent rumour be a fact which is what you were saying?!
>
It is amusing that you would be telling me about facts! It is my belief that you are the third Grimm brother!
No the story is fact and was reported to be so. there fore it can not be a rumour as it really did happen.
The Caoch was book in for certain starting time and finish time.
It was the Organisers that book the coach for those times, the coach driver kept to the contract so it was not his fault if he stays he would not get paid plus he would of lost money for not being able to do his next job that he was contacted to do.
The workers was not volunteers, they was order to do it or lose there benefits.
>
Stop trying to shove your ideology where it isn't wanted. You and your ideologies are what holds back the less fortunate - you should be out there incentivising them to aspire to better things, to get out and get a job, any job. Do what many others do, work for nothing to prove themselves - it's a system that is proven to work - go get the job and don't expect the job to come and get you!. Being on benefits is a one way ticket to nowhere.
>
Your negative approach to life is not an attitude to be passed onto others.
cliffwalker
says...
3:01pm Wed 6 Jun 12
He is called by his valet at the requested time with his chosen wake up drink and newspapers - let's say, 0715 today, as it's going to be a busy one. While Charles drinks his tea, his valet runs his bath and while HRH performs his morning ablutions his valet lays out his clothes for the morning engagements. Although on other days it may be taken whilst still in dressing gown, today, breakfast is served after the prince has dressed.
After breakfast, Charles checks his mail and his diary with the assistance of his secretary, if neccessary. The car to take him to his first engagement is scheduled to be available by 0930. At 1000, the prince goes out to the limousine, greets his chauffeur, and is whisked away to the new hospital ward he is opening that morning. His secretary briefs him on who he will meet and whether or not he will have to cut a ribbon or unvail a plaque. At 1130, he arrives to cheers and flags and the welcome party of hospital and civic dignitaries as well as some of the people who will work in the new facility. After the exchange of pleasantries and small talk, he speaks a few words for the assembled audience and media reporters and takes his leave to go to his next task.
At 1230 he arrives at the town hall where he is to be greeted by council, business and church leaders and is guest of honour at a lunch to celebrate the town's latest triumph or anniversary (or, perhaps, just so they can express gratitude for HRH visiting them). After lunch, at which HRH tells his hosts how happy he is to be there, he retires for half an hour to the private room set aside for him and decides there is no need to change into any of the the spare clothes brought along by his valet. In the car again by 1430, he is on his way to visit the nearby, newly built museum where he is shown around some of the more important exhibits, meets some of the workers and waves at the small crowd of schoolchildren outside. By 1600 he is moving again to return to his residence where the chauffeur is dismissed for the day at a little after 1730.
After such a heavy day, the prince has no public, evening engagements and he asks for his morning call to be at 0800.
As he recovers from the rigours of the day, Charles wonders whether it's really worth the 20 million pounds income he derives from his position.
OSPREYSAINT
says...
3:56pm Wed 6 Jun 12
cliffwalker wrote:Maybe that's true, but I still wouldn't do the job. You are only jealous.
A DAY IN THE WORKING LIFE OF HRH PRINCE OF WALES
He is called by his valet at the requested time with his chosen wake up drink and newspapers - let's say, 0715 today, as it's going to be a busy one. While Charles drinks his tea, his valet runs his bath and while HRH performs his morning ablutions his valet lays out his clothes for the morning engagements. Although on other days it may be taken whilst still in dressing gown, today, breakfast is served after the prince has dressed.
After breakfast, Charles checks his mail and his diary with the assistance of his secretary, if neccessary. The car to take him to his first engagement is scheduled to be available by 0930. At 1000, the prince goes out to the limousine, greets his chauffeur, and is whisked away to the new hospital ward he is opening that morning. His secretary briefs him on who he will meet and whether or not he will have to cut a ribbon or unvail a plaque. At 1130, he arrives to cheers and flags and the welcome party of hospital and civic dignitaries as well as some of the people who will work in the new facility. After the exchange of pleasantries and small talk, he speaks a few words for the assembled audience and media reporters and takes his leave to go to his next task.
At 1230 he arrives at the town hall where he is to be greeted by council, business and church leaders and is guest of honour at a lunch to celebrate the town's latest triumph or anniversary (or, perhaps, just so they can express gratitude for HRH visiting them). After lunch, at which HRH tells his hosts how happy he is to be there, he retires for half an hour to the private room set aside for him and decides there is no need to change into any of the the spare clothes brought along by his valet. In the car again by 1430, he is on his way to visit the nearby, newly built museum where he is shown around some of the more important exhibits, meets some of the workers and waves at the small crowd of schoolchildren outside. By 1600 he is moving again to return to his residence where the chauffeur is dismissed for the day at a little after 1730.
After such a heavy day, the prince has no public, evening engagements and he asks for his morning call to be at 0800.
As he recovers from the rigours of the day, Charles wonders whether it's really worth the 20 million pounds income he derives from his position.
OSPREYSAINT
says...
4:00pm Wed 6 Jun 12
rightway wrote:.... and what is your claim to fame apart from writing peevish letters on web sites?
Huffter wrote:I think you may be getting a little confused between what someone has achieved and what was handed on a plate.
rightway wrote: Now that’s it’s finally over and all the royalist sheep have had a full weekend bowing and fawning over an old woman they don’t know, will probably never meet and who wouldn’t care if you lived or died, can we all accept kings and queens belong in fairy tales and history books and that is where they should remain. All those incredibly sad people who’ve expressed their love for a family of inbreeds (again who they’ve never met) take a good look at yourself and get a life. Swearing allegiance and love to total strangers whether in the public eye or not is called stalking.Shame - I have to disagree with you - hope that's OK. Perhaps you can tell us what you've achieved in your life and we can compare it with the achievements of the Royal Family?
But please feel free to tell us all what any member of the royal family has achieved of there own back,without relying on royal connections, lets start with Edward..............
......
loosehead
says...
4:06pm Wed 6 Jun 12
cliffwalker wrote:Did they? have you not forgot the Emperor Napoleon?
loosehead wrote:I don't approve of the North Korean monarchy either.
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
I believe France is the most visited (by tourists) country in Europe. They got rid of their royal parasites 200 years ago.
The Ark de Triomphe? The Eiffel Tower?
Lets look at the places visited in France & how many are down to the Monarchy?
palaces & buildings erected by either the aristocracy or by Good old Napoleon himself.
Are you also forgetting the French Empire?
We tried being a republic way back before tourism was thought of.
Cromwell's England was a success but no festivities so what did we do?
when he died we dug him up Quartered him & hanged his quarters on traitors gate & we asked the Monarchy back.
your beloved French copied us but killed their Monarchy ( guillotined) & most of their aristocracy but then made an Emperor & have you seen the pomp & ceremony at the signing in of a President?
It all is a throw back to their Monarchy so please pick another as you've shown why we should keep our Monarchy
OSPREYSAINT
says...
4:12pm Wed 6 Jun 12
southy wrote:compleat rain? That's what we've had most of the week-end. Is that comment supposed to be some kind of veiled threat? Complete reign is what you intended to say, and what exactly do you mean by this statement, Revolution? Somehow that is fairly unlikely, the odds are stacked against it.
opera phantom wrote:You do not know that the chance grows even more with time, and theres a very good chance that the Queen could be your last compleat rain of any royal
rightway wrote:You are the sad one
Now that’s it’s finally over and all the royalist sheep have had a full weekend bowing and fawning over an old woman they don’t know, will probably never meet and who wouldn’t care if you lived or died, can we all accept kings and queens belong in fairy tales and history books and that is where they should remain.
All those incredibly sad people who’ve expressed their love for a family of inbreeds (again who they’ve never met) take a good look at yourself and get a life.
Swearing allegiance and love to total strangers whether in the public eye or not is called stalking.
The republicans are just hacked off because their dream will never come true. You get a life.
OSPREYSAINT
says...
4:15pm Wed 6 Jun 12
southy wrote:The Socialist Party? What, all of them? I know they are a bit of a minority these days, Political Dinosaurs.
George4th wrote:George What the papers missed out about that lot under the bridge is that the fact that the Socialist Party took meals to them and hot tea and coffee, because that Tory Peer would not even make sure they got a hot food and drink.
George4th wrote:One day you will actually write something of your own...........
southy wrote:Yea, right!
George4th wrote:still the same George
southy wrote:The error was the coach driver's.
George4th wrote:because it was never a rumour in the first place, thats is how come it is fact
What rumour? !!
How can a non existent rumour be a fact?!!!
>
Even more amusing coming from someone who wouldn't recognise a fact or a truth even if it hit him in the Trotskys!!
Spreading malicious media reporting is what Ant was doing.
>
I never ever said it was rumour!!! As I said "how can a non existent rumour be a fact which is what you were saying?!
>
It is amusing that you would be telling me about facts! It is my belief that you are the third Grimm brother!
No the story is fact and was reported to be so. there fore it can not be a rumour as it really did happen.
The Caoch was book in for certain starting time and finish time.
It was the Organisers that book the coach for those times, the coach driver kept to the contract so it was not his fault if he stays he would not get paid plus he would of lost money for not being able to do his next job that he was contacted to do.
The workers was not volunteers, they was order to do it or lose there benefits.
loosehead
says...
4:16pm Wed 6 Jun 12
southy wrote:Are you both saying the tourists don't come here to see the Queen & the historic buildings either built by Monarchy or Aristocrats or the church?
Ant Smoking MP wrote:Very true
George4th wrote:My experience of Royalists/Tories is that the exploit people especially the vulnerable unemployed.
loosehead wrote:Good post Loosehead.
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
>
My experience of "Republicans" is that they are usually unhappy negative people who whinge, moan, criticise and have no ambition to achieve for themselves.
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http://politicalscra
pbook.net/2012/06/ju
bilee-stewards-tomor
rows-people-debbie-s
cott/
Are you saying they'd come here to see a trotsky president?
My father was a Labour Party member & a monarchist so what he should have been put against the wall & shot?
loosehead
says...
4:21pm Wed 6 Jun 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I wish those republicans could have been rounded up & been sent to A socialist state,
southy wrote:The Socialist Party? What, all of them? I know they are a bit of a minority these days, Political Dinosaurs.
George4th wrote:George What the papers missed out about that lot under the bridge is that the fact that the Socialist Party took meals to them and hot tea and coffee, because that Tory Peer would not even make sure they got a hot food and drink.
George4th wrote:One day you will actually write something of your own...........
southy wrote:Yea, right!
George4th wrote:still the same George
southy wrote:The error was the coach driver's.
George4th wrote:because it was never a rumour in the first place, thats is how come it is fact
What rumour? !!
How can a non existent rumour be a fact?!!!
>
Even more amusing coming from someone who wouldn't recognise a fact or a truth even if it hit him in the Trotskys!!
Spreading malicious media reporting is what Ant was doing.
>
I never ever said it was rumour!!! As I said "how can a non existent rumour be a fact which is what you were saying?!
>
It is amusing that you would be telling me about facts! It is my belief that you are the third Grimm brother!
No the story is fact and was reported to be so. there fore it can not be a rumour as it really did happen.
The Caoch was book in for certain starting time and finish time.
It was the Organisers that book the coach for those times, the coach driver kept to the contract so it was not his fault if he stays he would not get paid plus he would of lost money for not being able to do his next job that he was contacted to do.
The workers was not volunteers, they was order to do it or lose there benefits.
If they don't agree with the Queen fine that's their point of view but to go up & protest & ruining peoples day was wrong & shows their mindset.
to read Ant Smoking & Southy's posts show that if you don't agree with them one let's ruin your day two let's berate you but what ever happens what we believe is right & your all wrong & you will believe us
OSPREYSAINT
says...
4:21pm Wed 6 Jun 12
southy wrote:Starving peasants in the UK? Are you really from this planet? Who are they, where are they and why are they starving in a land of plenty? I reckon it's all your fault.
loosehead wrote:There are more starving peasants in the UK than there is in Capitalist Commonist aka Stalist North Korea
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
southy
says...
4:25pm Wed 6 Jun 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:your wrong time is running out for any of the royal familys of the world, look how many have gone in the last 100 years and how many went in the 100 years before then, and the 100 years before then, the next 100 years will see the last ones to go, that is such as evolution of history, some of the crowns had gone though bloody revolution others have gone in a peaceful way, the days of royal familys are numbered, with those commonwealth countrys that still have the crown head of state most will be dropping them with the ending off the present crown, and theres every chance that prince charles will bring an end to the crown.
southy wrote:compleat rain? That's what we've had most of the week-end. Is that comment supposed to be some kind of veiled threat? Complete reign is what you intended to say, and what exactly do you mean by this statement, Revolution? Somehow that is fairly unlikely, the odds are stacked against it.
opera phantom wrote:You do not know that the chance grows even more with time, and theres a very good chance that the Queen could be your last compleat rain of any royal
rightway wrote:You are the sad one
Now that’s it’s finally over and all the royalist sheep have had a full weekend bowing and fawning over an old woman they don’t know, will probably never meet and who wouldn’t care if you lived or died, can we all accept kings and queens belong in fairy tales and history books and that is where they should remain.
All those incredibly sad people who’ve expressed their love for a family of inbreeds (again who they’ve never met) take a good look at yourself and get a life.
Swearing allegiance and love to total strangers whether in the public eye or not is called stalking.
The republicans are just hacked off because their dream will never come true. You get a life.
The Odds are stack up against them lasting another 50 years.
southy
says...
4:29pm Wed 6 Jun 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:lol you only got to look for the Soup Kitchens that had gone in the 60's came back in the 80's and have slowly been building up in numbers, cardboard citys are building up again.
southy wrote:Starving peasants in the UK? Are you really from this planet? Who are they, where are they and why are they starving in a land of plenty? I reckon it's all your fault.
loosehead wrote:There are more starving peasants in the UK than there is in Capitalist Commonist aka Stalist North Korea
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
OSPREYSAINT
says...
4:30pm Wed 6 Jun 12
loosehead wrote:Not all Republicans are bad, it is the minority of fanatics that are not worth a sou, take the recent events in Ireland, Dissident Republicans disrupted the Olympic Torch relay, that act did more to harm their cause than anything else they have done, anyone that disrespects the Olympic Idyl will find the rest of the World against them.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I wish those republicans could have been rounded up & been sent to A socialist state,
southy wrote:The Socialist Party? What, all of them? I know they are a bit of a minority these days, Political Dinosaurs.
George4th wrote:George What the papers missed out about that lot under the bridge is that the fact that the Socialist Party took meals to them and hot tea and coffee, because that Tory Peer would not even make sure they got a hot food and drink.
George4th wrote:One day you will actually write something of your own...........
southy wrote:Yea, right!
George4th wrote:still the same George
southy wrote:The error was the coach driver's.
George4th wrote:because it was never a rumour in the first place, thats is how come it is fact
What rumour? !!
How can a non existent rumour be a fact?!!!
>
Even more amusing coming from someone who wouldn't recognise a fact or a truth even if it hit him in the Trotskys!!
Spreading malicious media reporting is what Ant was doing.
>
I never ever said it was rumour!!! As I said "how can a non existent rumour be a fact which is what you were saying?!
>
It is amusing that you would be telling me about facts! It is my belief that you are the third Grimm brother!
No the story is fact and was reported to be so. there fore it can not be a rumour as it really did happen.
The Caoch was book in for certain starting time and finish time.
It was the Organisers that book the coach for those times, the coach driver kept to the contract so it was not his fault if he stays he would not get paid plus he would of lost money for not being able to do his next job that he was contacted to do.
The workers was not volunteers, they was order to do it or lose there benefits.
If they don't agree with the Queen fine that's their point of view but to go up & protest & ruining peoples day was wrong & shows their mindset.
to read Ant Smoking & Southy's posts show that if you don't agree with them one let's ruin your day two let's berate you but what ever happens what we believe is right & your all wrong & you will believe us
OSPREYSAINT
says...
4:32pm Wed 6 Jun 12
southy wrote:Where?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:lol you only got to look for the Soup Kitchens that had gone in the 60's came back in the 80's and have slowly been building up in numbers, cardboard citys are building up again.
southy wrote:Starving peasants in the UK? Are you really from this planet? Who are they, where are they and why are they starving in a land of plenty? I reckon it's all your fault.
loosehead wrote:There are more starving peasants in the UK than there is in Capitalist Commonist aka Stalist North Korea
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
southy
says...
4:33pm Wed 6 Jun 12
loosehead wrote:oosehead wrong again about me as normal, I don't care if the royal family stays or not.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I wish those republicans could have been rounded up & been sent to A socialist state,
southy wrote:The Socialist Party? What, all of them? I know they are a bit of a minority these days, Political Dinosaurs.
George4th wrote:George What the papers missed out about that lot under the bridge is that the fact that the Socialist Party took meals to them and hot tea and coffee, because that Tory Peer would not even make sure they got a hot food and drink.
George4th wrote:One day you will actually write something of your own...........
southy wrote:Yea, right!
George4th wrote:still the same George
southy wrote:The error was the coach driver's.
George4th wrote:because it was never a rumour in the first place, thats is how come it is fact
What rumour? !!
How can a non existent rumour be a fact?!!!
>
Even more amusing coming from someone who wouldn't recognise a fact or a truth even if it hit him in the Trotskys!!
Spreading malicious media reporting is what Ant was doing.
>
I never ever said it was rumour!!! As I said "how can a non existent rumour be a fact which is what you were saying?!
>
It is amusing that you would be telling me about facts! It is my belief that you are the third Grimm brother!
No the story is fact and was reported to be so. there fore it can not be a rumour as it really did happen.
The Caoch was book in for certain starting time and finish time.
It was the Organisers that book the coach for those times, the coach driver kept to the contract so it was not his fault if he stays he would not get paid plus he would of lost money for not being able to do his next job that he was contacted to do.
The workers was not volunteers, they was order to do it or lose there benefits.
If they don't agree with the Queen fine that's their point of view but to go up & protest & ruining peoples day was wrong & shows their mindset.
to read Ant Smoking & Southy's posts show that if you don't agree with them one let's ruin your day two let's berate you but what ever happens what we believe is right & your all wrong & you will believe us
But if you took your time in reading some of my post they you would of notice this bit that I have said on more than one occation.
I personally would keep the crown and its direct line, and all the rest can work for living, and the only reason I would keep them is that it would stop Dictators like Thatcher, Hitler and Stalin from having total power.
Ant Smoking MP
says...
4:34pm Wed 6 Jun 12
loosehead wrote:What are you talking about?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I wish those republicans could have been rounded up & been sent to A socialist state,
southy wrote:The Socialist Party? What, all of them? I know they are a bit of a minority these days, Political Dinosaurs.
George4th wrote:George What the papers missed out about that lot under the bridge is that the fact that the Socialist Party took meals to them and hot tea and coffee, because that Tory Peer would not even make sure they got a hot food and drink.
George4th wrote:One day you will actually write something of your own...........
southy wrote:Yea, right!
George4th wrote:still the same George
southy wrote:The error was the coach driver's.
George4th wrote:because it was never a rumour in the first place, thats is how come it is fact
What rumour? !!
How can a non existent rumour be a fact?!!!
>
Even more amusing coming from someone who wouldn't recognise a fact or a truth even if it hit him in the Trotskys!!
Spreading malicious media reporting is what Ant was doing.
>
I never ever said it was rumour!!! As I said "how can a non existent rumour be a fact which is what you were saying?!
>
It is amusing that you would be telling me about facts! It is my belief that you are the third Grimm brother!
No the story is fact and was reported to be so. there fore it can not be a rumour as it really did happen.
The Caoch was book in for certain starting time and finish time.
It was the Organisers that book the coach for those times, the coach driver kept to the contract so it was not his fault if he stays he would not get paid plus he would of lost money for not being able to do his next job that he was contacted to do.
The workers was not volunteers, they was order to do it or lose there benefits.
If they don't agree with the Queen fine that's their point of view but to go up & protest & ruining peoples day was wrong & shows their mindset.
to read Ant Smoking & Southy's posts show that if you don't agree with them one let's ruin your day two let's berate you but what ever happens what we believe is right & your all wrong & you will believe us
rightway
says...
4:36pm Wed 6 Jun 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:I claim nothing, all I have done is questioned what achievements the royal family( as stated by Huffter) can claim through their own endeavours without the help of mummy and her lickspittles.
rightway wrote:.... and what is your claim to fame apart from writing peevish letters on web sites?Huffter wrote:I think you may be getting a little confused between what someone has achieved and what was handed on a plate. But please feel free to tell us all what any member of the royal family has achieved of there own back,without relying on royal connections, lets start with Edward.............. ......rightway wrote: Now that’s it’s finally over and all the royalist sheep have had a full weekend bowing and fawning over an old woman they don’t know, will probably never meet and who wouldn’t care if you lived or died, can we all accept kings and queens belong in fairy tales and history books and that is where they should remain. All those incredibly sad people who’ve expressed their love for a family of inbreeds (again who they’ve never met) take a good look at yourself and get a life. Swearing allegiance and love to total strangers whether in the public eye or not is called stalking.Shame - I have to disagree with you - hope that's OK. Perhaps you can tell us what you've achieved in your life and we can compare it with the achievements of the Royal Family?
southy
says...
4:37pm Wed 6 Jun 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:London mainly like near temple station, hyde park and number of other places
southy wrote:Where?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:lol you only got to look for the Soup Kitchens that had gone in the 60's came back in the 80's and have slowly been building up in numbers, cardboard citys are building up again.
southy wrote:Starving peasants in the UK? Are you really from this planet? Who are they, where are they and why are they starving in a land of plenty? I reckon it's all your fault.
loosehead wrote:There are more starving peasants in the UK than there is in Capitalist Commonist aka Stalist North Korea
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
OSPREYSAINT
says...
4:42pm Wed 6 Jun 12
southy wrote:Still plenty around, Constitutional Monarchies aren't too bad, Absolute Monarchies not so good. Our own might devolve in time, but unlikely to disappear completely. I take it that you would want the elected Parliament to go as well, in which case what kind of constitution should take its place.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:your wrong time is running out for any of the royal familys of the world, look how many have gone in the last 100 years and how many went in the 100 years before then, and the 100 years before then, the next 100 years will see the last ones to go, that is such as evolution of history, some of the crowns had gone though bloody revolution others have gone in a peaceful way, the days of royal familys are numbered, with those commonwealth countrys that still have the crown head of state most will be dropping them with the ending off the present crown, and theres every chance that prince charles will bring an end to the crown.
southy wrote:compleat rain? That's what we've had most of the week-end. Is that comment supposed to be some kind of veiled threat? Complete reign is what you intended to say, and what exactly do you mean by this statement, Revolution? Somehow that is fairly unlikely, the odds are stacked against it.
opera phantom wrote:You do not know that the chance grows even more with time, and theres a very good chance that the Queen could be your last compleat rain of any royal
rightway wrote:You are the sad one
Now that’s it’s finally over and all the royalist sheep have had a full weekend bowing and fawning over an old woman they don’t know, will probably never meet and who wouldn’t care if you lived or died, can we all accept kings and queens belong in fairy tales and history books and that is where they should remain.
All those incredibly sad people who’ve expressed their love for a family of inbreeds (again who they’ve never met) take a good look at yourself and get a life.
Swearing allegiance and love to total strangers whether in the public eye or not is called stalking.
The republicans are just hacked off because their dream will never come true. You get a life.
The Odds are stack up against them lasting another 50 years.
loosehead
says...
4:43pm Wed 6 Jun 12
southy wrote:Southy stop being a Burke!
OSPREYSAINT wrote:lol you only got to look for the Soup Kitchens that had gone in the 60's came back in the 80's and have slowly been building up in numbers, cardboard citys are building up again.
southy wrote:Starving peasants in the UK? Are you really from this planet? Who are they, where are they and why are they starving in a land of plenty? I reckon it's all your fault.
loosehead wrote:There are more starving peasants in the UK than there is in Capitalist Commonist aka Stalist North Korea
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
I North Korea the normal person (peasants) are starving in their thousands.
South Korea was sending food aid until the North attacked them.
When this latest despot was made President the ones cheering were the middle class card holding party members.
If people bought food instead of petrol or smart phones exactly how many would need food banks?
Soup Kitchens Why? run aways? people who's live has fallen apart? you can't say there are more of them than the starving of Korea.
ZSimbabwe once the food basket of Africa now look at it? Marxist Mugabe with Land grabs & now they can't feed themselves?
Come On get real!
OSPREYSAINT
says...
7:50pm Wed 6 Jun 12
loosehead wrote:Thanks LH good post and good that we are on the same wavelength for once.
southy wrote:Southy stop being a Burke!
OSPREYSAINT wrote:lol you only got to look for the Soup Kitchens that had gone in the 60's came back in the 80's and have slowly been building up in numbers, cardboard citys are building up again.
southy wrote:Starving peasants in the UK? Are you really from this planet? Who are they, where are they and why are they starving in a land of plenty? I reckon it's all your fault.
loosehead wrote:There are more starving peasants in the UK than there is in Capitalist Commonist aka Stalist North Korea
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
I North Korea the normal person (peasants) are starving in their thousands.
South Korea was sending food aid until the North attacked them.
When this latest despot was made President the ones cheering were the middle class card holding party members.
If people bought food instead of petrol or smart phones exactly how many would need food banks?
Soup Kitchens Why? run aways? people who's live has fallen apart? you can't say there are more of them than the starving of Korea.
ZSimbabwe once the food basket of Africa now look at it? Marxist Mugabe with Land grabs & now they can't feed themselves?
Come On get real!
OSPREYSAINT
says...
7:59pm Wed 6 Jun 12
southy wrote:Not Country Wide then, what do you think is the best way to resolve this issue, I mised your little gem earlier "Loads is coming out now that was suppress by the tory government of what went on during the olympics like that lot that got told to sleep rough under a bridge". This was a result of stupid foul up by the Employers, not a Capitalist plot to suppress the masses, and I am sure it won't be allowed to happen again.
OSPREYSAINT wrote:London mainly like near temple station, hyde park and number of other places
southy wrote:Where?
OSPREYSAINT wrote:lol you only got to look for the Soup Kitchens that had gone in the 60's came back in the 80's and have slowly been building up in numbers, cardboard citys are building up again.
southy wrote:Starving peasants in the UK? Are you really from this planet? Who are they, where are they and why are they starving in a land of plenty? I reckon it's all your fault.
loosehead wrote:There are more starving peasants in the UK than there is in Capitalist Commonist aka Stalist North Korea
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
loosehead
says...
9:11pm Wed 6 Jun 12
OSPREYSAINT wrote:There are times when we'll never agree but I can't believe some of the rubbish posted on this article.
loosehead wrote:Thanks LH good post and good that we are on the same wavelength for once.
southy wrote:Southy stop being a Burke!
OSPREYSAINT wrote:lol you only got to look for the Soup Kitchens that had gone in the 60's came back in the 80's and have slowly been building up in numbers, cardboard citys are building up again.
southy wrote:Starving peasants in the UK? Are you really from this planet? Who are they, where are they and why are they starving in a land of plenty? I reckon it's all your fault.
loosehead wrote:There are more starving peasants in the UK than there is in Capitalist Commonist aka Stalist North Korea
cliffwalker wrote:Oh! you mean like the thousands employed in tourism or selling of royal memorabilia or those who work in hotels that put up the tourists who've come to see the Queen.
Why would anyone want to celebrate the life of luxury and privilege enjoyed by one woman at the expense of millions of others (many of whom can hardly afford to feed and house themselves) who have had no choice in the matter? I've nothing against the present incumbent who has probably been as brainwashed as many of the rest of us but monarchy has no place in the real world it belongs in fairy stories and ancient history.
the revenue in earnings is enormous & the taxes collected help the poor of this country but lets put all those people on the dole pull down those fantastic buildings & put up flats ?
you should go & move to North Korea & live amongst the starving peasants
I North Korea the normal person (peasants) are starving in their thousands.
South Korea was sending food aid until the North attacked them.
When this latest despot was made President the ones cheering were the middle class card holding party members.
If people bought food instead of petrol or smart phones exactly how many would need food banks?
Soup Kitchens Why? run aways? people who's live has fallen apart? you can't say there are more of them than the starving of Korea.
ZSimbabwe once the food basket of Africa now look at it? Marxist Mugabe with Land grabs & now they can't feed themselves?
Come On get real!
What should be said is how great this port is to have these three great ships in at the same time or the seven that are coming in July instead we get Anti Monarchists on here?
I look at America where they have a President & two elected houses & I see if you have a democratic lower house & president & a higher hose of republicans it's stalemate & it takes for ever to get things done if at all.
I then see they want to get rid of the house of Lords why? Parliament can over rule them & we get bills passed.
Now these idiots are saying get rid of the Queen & have a president?
take a look around the world & you'll see that doesn't work,
The Liberals are Anti Lords & are pushing that like they pushed AV.
Take a look at Greece & tell me AV/ PR works?
I don't want Charles as King as I hate what him & back of the bus did to Diana & feel it should go straight to William but I'm not anti Monarchy
OSPREYSAINT
says...
9:50pm Wed 6 Jun 12
Pettle
says...
10:34pm Wed 6 Jun 12
Pettle
says...
10:38pm Wed 6 Jun 12
snapperdownunder
says...
4:12am Thu 7 Jun 12
OSPREYSAINT
says...
9:54pm Thu 7 Jun 12
snapperdownunder wrote:Nowt wrong with that my lad.
I see all the usual suspects and luvvies were aboard for the festivities.
bigfella777 says...
7:15am Wed 6 Jun 12