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Daily Echo backs calls for a referendum on fluoride issue


GIVE us a vote. The Daily Echo today backs calls for a referendum on controversial plans to fluoridate Hampshire’s tap water.

Campaigners argue that faith in democracy has been damaged by health chiefs approving the scheme to add fluoride to the water supplies of nearly 200,000 homes, despite widespread opposition.

Calls for a direct referendum on the controversial plans have been made by opponents of fluoride, and one of the city’s most powerful politicians.

Earlier this month campaigners delivered a 15,300-name petition to Downing Street, urging the Prime Minister to step into the row over fluoridation.

During last year’s public consultation, more than 10,000 responses were submitted to South Central Strategic Health Authority.

Of those from people in the affected area, 72 per cent said they were against it.

In a separate phone poll of 2,000 residents, 32 per cent said they would like to see fluoride added to tap water.

But 38 per cent said they opposed the plans, affecting parts of Southampton, Eastleigh, Totton, Netley and Rownhams.

The SHA board approved the scheme, saying they had gathered opinion as required by law, but were convinced by scientific evidence showing fluoride will improve dental health in the city.

Southampton city council’s deputy leader, Cllr Royston Smith, said he was normally opposed to using referenda, but wanted to see one on fluoridation.

“People are rightfully saying what’s the point of asking me and us being part of the political system if we’re just going to be ignored,” said Cllr Smith, who is standing for the Tories in Southampton Itchen at the next election.

“What annoys me is this is an act of political cowardice by the Government. They have devolved responsibility to the SHA and are then saying it’s not us that made the decision.

“Actually on this point, it is time we put it to a democratic vote and let the people have their say.”

Hampshire Against Fluoridation’s chairman John Spottiswoode said his group had always favoured a referendum as the best way to decide on the subject.

“Why have a consultation if you’re going to ignore what the people say, and the other issue is it is fundamentally unethical to force people to take something without their consent,” he said.

“A referendum would properly sort that one out.

“But if you do have a referendum it has got to be done on a level playing field and people are given proper access to information on both sides.”

SHA campaigns manager Kevin McNamara said the authority has no view over what the law should be, but simply follows what it says.

“The SHA is required to follow the law that’s in place at this current time, and if the law was subject to any change we would follow that,” he said.

“The issue of what that law should be is for politicians to debate in Parliament and decide on, we just work within that law.

“That’s what the politicians have done with this legislation, which was decided through a free vote, and we’re working within it.”

Comments(13)

steve7676 says...
11:25am Sat 27 Jun 09

There`s hope in the U.S. of an end to water fluoridation.There's hope brewing toward someday rescinding the flawed plan to treat drinking water with hazardous waste fluosilicic acid-caustic soda to force fluoride into the blood of consumers.

First, Deborah Passow, special assistant to District Attorney Steve Cooley in Los Angeles, responded that attorney Thomas Papageorge, Head Deputy of the Consumer Protection Division, was given the list of eight counts of possible federal drug law violations by Metropolitan Water, which treats human tissues with its mixture without being registered with, nor approved by, the Food and Drug Administration. The fact that this DA didn't ignore the information is fantastic.

Second, the California Environmental Protection Agency placed fluoride salts in its highest category possible to review for regulations to minimize cancer-causing activity (http://www.fresnobe
e.com/547/story/1459
684.html). This turn of events occurred for several reasons: vast prospective experimental data on animal carcinogenity of unnatural fluoride, convincing epidemiological cancer data on humans in fluoridated versus non-fluoridated cities, and the fact that nearly 70 percent of U.S. water is injected with these agents. The FDA has been notified of these California activities.

The FDA labels toothpaste fluorides as drugs, fluoride drops as prescription drugs, and water fluoridation as uncontrolled use of drugs, where side effects and allowed daily doses can't be labeled.

soton1980 says...
12:36pm Sat 27 Jun 09

What's the point anymore? The Government doesn't care what the public think.


Big Boy says...
1:43pm Sat 27 Jun 09

If we didn't get a referendum on the EU constitution, why would we get a referendum on a small area of Hampshire? The Echo needs to take a reality check!

Sorry Steve of Lima, but what happens in the US is of very little interest to us over this side of the pond. We have different laws, procedures & standards.

goard says...
2:07pm Sat 27 Jun 09

I hate to hear such defeatism - you are all really weary - I don't blame you - this is how politics work - just silently, stealthily keep your values and hold it when it really counts - these quangos,which incidentaly is a good name for all dictators are feeling ****-a-hoop', then put your boot in. We are all with you, silently, steathily, we are WITH YOU.

Oracle1 says...
3:44pm Sat 27 Jun 09

There is always a point, the governments rely on apathy to push things through

Andy Locks Heath says...
4:05pm Sat 27 Jun 09

A referendum would be a good idea on one condition - that anyone who distorts or misrepresents fact such as Steve7676 is prosecuted and punished if found guilty. of course Steve7676 would have to be willing to submit to such justice and people from the USA do not have a good record in travelling to other countries in the name of justice. And as he only seems able to talk about his own country and displays no knowledge of the UK at all perhaps he should just butt out and mind his own business.

southy says...
4:24pm Sat 27 Jun 09

the socialist party stance off fluoride being put in water, is a no, and if they should gain power at the next general election, and fluoride is in the water by then, they will order it stop right away.
they will also have a referendum on the EU. first off all will be weather to stay in the EU or to pull out, if the choice is to stay in then you get a vote on the lisbon treaty and other things. if its to pull out off the EU then vat will go to.

Redondo Saint says...
4:27pm Sat 27 Jun 09

THE ECHO NEEDS TO GET OVER ITSELF.

EGO TRIP OR WHAT?

StanB says...
5:23pm Sat 27 Jun 09

As the health authorities have now admitted that this will be medication will this water be free to children,benefit claiments and OAPS. or will we need a prescription from the doctor.

Condor Man says...
6:17pm Sat 27 Jun 09

Why not do a deal with Colgate or Crest to give away free toothpaste and brushes on the estates so kids won't have rotten teeth. This will mean that responsible people who look after their teeth won't have to be poisoned as a consequence.

RJG says...
6:51pm Sat 27 Jun 09

Could someone please ask John Spottiswoode whether he would also be in favour for a referendum on whether or not we should be cutting our carbon emissions? Because the arguments against fluoridation are exactly the same arguments as people who deny the scientific reality of climate change. He's not a real green- he's a Bad Science, reactionary, anti-science prat, and deserves to be called out as such.

Condor Man says...
7:10pm Sat 27 Jun 09

RJG wrote:
Could someone please ask John Spottiswoode whether he would also be in favour for a referendum on whether or not we should be cutting our carbon emissions? Because the arguments against fluoridation are exactly the same arguments as people who deny the scientific reality of climate change. He's not a real green- he's a Bad Science, reactionary, anti-science prat, and deserves to be called out as such.
how is not wanting flouride in water the same as denying climate change?

Paramjit Bahia says...
7:12pm Sat 27 Jun 09

While Echo’s support to anti fluoride campaign may be music to our ears, let us not forget that end of the day they are only in the business of selling papers, and will get in every bed where they can get what they are after--- that is your money for their paper.

Let us not forget where Echo’s editor stands. Did he not at one time write in his Friday’s column that doctor knows best?

Considering Echo’s track record of having jumped on various band wagons in the past, and then conveniently forgotten about the causes, I think anti fluoride campaign should be thankful for this support but not totally depend upon it. If you do not believe me ask Ice Skaters!


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