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Parents' help needed to prevent school rampage repeat
2:00pm Tuesday 21st October 2008 in News
By Corey Stephenson, Senior News and Video Reporter
Oasis Academy: Mayfield
IT IS up to parents to stop a repeat of the ugly scenes when up to 150 children went on the rampage at a city school.
That is the message from the city's education chief after pupils at the Oasis Academy Mayfield caused hundreds of pounds worth of damage, smashing windows and wrecking televisions.
The damage happened after a protest by students about how the school was formed by merging Grove and Woolston Schools got out of hand.
Southampton’s Cabinet member for education Peter Baillie said parents who knew their children were planning to protest should tip off teachers to avoid more trouble at the academy, formed from a merger of Grove Park and Woolston schools.
Meanwhile, principal Ruth Johnson, who was unavailable to answer questions directly yesterday, issued a statement saying disruptive pupils had been punished.
She added that the support of parents was needed to end the problems that have blighted the school since it was founded in September.
As revealed in yesterday’s Daily Echo, witnesses told how windows were broken, televisions wrecked and ceiling tiles torn down when pupils on the upper school site in Woolston left on a trail of destruction.
It is understood a number of pupils were immediately excluded from the school.
As previously reported, angry pupils have been protesting against the changes which resulted in two schools merging across two sites, with Years 7, 8 and 9 being taught at Grove Park and Years 10 and 11 at the Woolston site. Yesterday both parents and pupils spoke out, blaming the disruption on the unwanted merging of the schools and the lack of help from staff at the school.
As previously reported, angry pupils have been protesting against the changes which resulted in two schools merging across two sites, with Years 7, 8 and 9 being taught at Grove Park and Years 10 and 11 at the Woolston site.
Yesterday both parents and pupils spoke out, blaming the disruption on the unwanted merging of the schools and the lack of help from staff at the school.
Parent Martine Staples, from Weston, said she was so disappointed with the new school that she had taken her Year 8 daughter Stacey out and enrolled the 12-year-old at nearby Chamberlayne Park.
“I took action because she was getting bullied. I spoke to teachers but they just didn’t seem interested. “She had her best year academically at Woolston last year, but now she is just begging to leave and some of her friends have already made the move.”
Cllr Baillie said: “I would hope parents who may know their children are planning to disrupt learning for other pupils would contact the school and work with the teachers and staff.
“There is a small minority of ringleaders causing trouble and they have some hangers-on that should really not get involved.
The school has taken steps against some of these pupils and I believe the problems will stop very soon.
Mrs Johnson added: “The actions I took last week give out a strong message that we will not tolerate any disruption which could harm the education of the majority of students.”
Teaching unions have threatened to take industrial action if improvements are not made.
Previous trouble at the academy this term includes an allegation that a pupil threatened a teacher with a knife in a classroom last week. Police investigated the incident and said the pupil was reprimanded.
- See today's Daily Echo for the full story
Comments(103)
AngrySotonResident
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9:16am Tue 21 Oct 08
No chance, a majority of parents and children protested about this acadamy coming to southampton and disrupting our childrens education.
Our protests although been fruitless were accurate and the children a falling behind rapidly.
I find it very odd that the head of the school was not available to answer questions. Is this because she knows deep down that this acadamy is going to be a failure for the future? I also understand from my daughter that a teacher is leaving the school this week due to the mismanagement and poor organisation of the school.
At the start of the year it was the year 7s that had all the resources available to them, WHY?
Because it is this year year 7s that will be the acadamies first GCSE students that have gone all the way through the school. They don't care about the students above the year 7s and this is going to reflect on the league tables next year.
My daughter was excelling in a majority of her lessons and she was achieving top marks during test. After starting in this new acadamy she comes home depressed and feels that the level of education currently being provided is substandard and very very poor.
As a parents point of view we would receive regular comments and newsletters on the progress and activities within the school. Since the opening of the acadamy we have recieved nothing apart from a letter to which the subject was about, yes the year 7s and their parent evening. Well I have news for you my daughter is in year 9.
We never wanted this merger in the first place and feel we have been let down by the local education authority.
Forest Resident
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9:18am Tue 21 Oct 08
balanced view
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9:20am Tue 21 Oct 08
I agree that the disturbance sounded dangerous and many staff and pupils were frightened, but it is also obvious that many pupils are frustrated with Oasis, because they are not getting as good a deal as before, their exam grades are at risk and they feel they are not being listened to. Pupils say that they are not listened too or spoken too as concerned young adults. Do not blame the teachers, as by all accounts they just do not have the time to do anything more than be busy rushing from one classroom to another or from one school to another. Surely there is a School Council -if not, why not?
Someone is not listening!!
crazyworld
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9:27am Tue 21 Oct 08
Tom Bargate
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10:16am Tue 21 Oct 08
goard
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10:24am Tue 21 Oct 08
goard
localangrymum
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10:36am Tue 21 Oct 08
sorry for the rant, but this is all happening to our children, and the don't even mix the kids from the old Woolston & Grove Schools, make sense to you?
Mr E
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10:43am Tue 21 Oct 08
sholingmum
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11:19am Tue 21 Oct 08
When is someone going to actually listen to what the students have to say, after all it is THEIR education that is being affected and THEIR GCSE grades that will suffer.
A lot of the disruption during lessons is due to students not having in-lesson support (I understand that all learning support assistants are at the Grove Park site).
I agree that all Mrs Johnson's attention seems to be geared towards the Year 7s because they are her "babies". Yet I attended a parents meeting just after she was appointed where she stated that the Year 11s would be her priority because the Academy would be judged on exam results in the short term, in other words next year when our kids get their results. She needs to get her priorities right; LISTEN to the students, not just randomly exclude - Oasis is supposed to be about INCLUSION! That stupid red "circle" that looks like an pre-school child has drawn is called the "circle of inclusion" would you believe. The kids are disrupting lessons, running amok, walking off site, being rude, etc deliberately to get themselves excluded so that they don't have to go to school.
And Mrs Johnson you need to listen to ALL the students not just the prefects YOU appointed. They are not a true representation of the school.
Surely Southampton City Council are still involved in the education of all children; why are they not investigating this further? Mr Chalk talking to the kids in assembly about a girl, a chicken and a goose? WHAT IS THAT ALL ABOUT? Even my child didn't know.
PLEASE WILL SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE DO SOMETHING - our kids will end up having to do an extra year at college to get their grades and this in the long term will be extra tax payers money needed by colleges.
NICK PAYNTER
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11:24am Tue 21 Oct 08
IF AT ANY POINT I THOUGHT MY SON WAS INVOLVED IN SMASHING UP THE SCHOOL, THE LEAST OF HIS PROBLEMS WOULD BE BEING EXPELLED.
wizzle
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11:30am Tue 21 Oct 08
Mr E wrote:Thers a whole lot more going on that hasnt been reported. But unless you are a parent of the school, no one knows. There are some very valid points made above, and its a crying shame that my son also has fallen behind dramatically due to lack of staffing and no facilities. False promises that have not been kept ect. When you go into the school, there are no signs of any work on display from the children, just large posters about the oasis academy and the changes it makes.
It sounds like there is a lot more going on here than is being reported.
It was lovely walking round last year seeing all the work the kids had done....but now nothing!
Who is the school for anyway....the kids i thought!
The system is an absolute shambles, with so many children been affected and so many being so unhappy.
I know of one child who was suspended for something minor 3 weeks after the incident happened...Why?....b
ecause paperwork had to be filled out....the parents were not even aware that the child was in trouble. Its a total disgrace and needs to be sorted quickly.
We as parents should maybe somehow hold a meeting were the head and teachers can all attend and answer questions and the local media could be present also. I can see this being sorted out for a lomg long time.
wizzle
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11:34am Tue 21 Oct 08
Ive never even seen Ruth Johnson!!!!!!
year11parent
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12:03pm Tue 21 Oct 08
D.a.v.e
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12:18pm Tue 21 Oct 08
balanced view wrote:Whilst i agree with most of what you say, i would like to point out that the teachers are not being blamed here. The teachers fully sympathise and share with the pupils frustrations.
Councillor Baillie should be supporting parents and pupils to demand changes that will allow teachers to teach and pupils to learn. I agree that the disturbance sounded dangerous and many staff and pupils were frightened, but it is also obvious that many pupils are frustrated with Oasis, because they are not getting as good a deal as before, their exam grades are at risk and they feel they are not being listened to. Pupils say that they are not listened too or spoken too as concerned young adults. Do not blame the teachers, as by all accounts they just do not have the time to do anything more than be busy rushing from one classroom to another or from one school to another. Surely there is a School Council -if not, why not? Someone is not listening!!
I also think that unless the echo are prepared to obtain factual comments from a spokesperson at the school instead of off the cuff remarks -they should step back from this, because this story is clearly bigger than they can handle.
Condor Man
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12:22pm Tue 21 Oct 08
It seems to me that although Mrs Johnson ticks the boxes she lacks the personal skills to win over the parents.
Zoeeee93
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12:23pm Tue 21 Oct 08
She ruined Cantell school and now shes ruining my school.
Also, the parents are not going to stop us protesting or having our say. Our parents agree with us 100% and they are going to back us up all the way. Maybe they didnt agree with rioting or trashing the school but still, all parents, student and staff want change and they want it now.
cherrypi
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1:07pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Iain
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1:14pm Tue 21 Oct 08
cherrypi
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1:21pm Tue 21 Oct 08
goard
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1:22pm Tue 21 Oct 08
goard
insider83
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1:43pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Mad Max
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1:45pm Tue 21 Oct 08
and for the young adults at the school... good protest song for you, Pink Floyd "Another brick in the wall" a sit down demonstration in the hall will be more effective than running riot damaging YOUR school...
mr.southampton
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1:48pm Tue 21 Oct 08
bitternedave
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1:52pm Tue 21 Oct 08
bitternedave
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1:54pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Treas
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1:55pm Tue 21 Oct 08
southy
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2:02pm Tue 21 Oct 08
gob smacked
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2:05pm Tue 21 Oct 08
joannaRwoolston
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2:11pm Tue 21 Oct 08
ms.johnson you never listen to us pupils and we get so frustrated!!
we have so many points which could help but we just get ignored!
we are so fed up so we decided to cause a riot to show are frustration...it seemed at the time the only way to get your attention.
last year, my results were excellent.but since i have been attending this acedemy my results have dropped low due to lack of learning facilities!
i have not even been put into the right sets for my english maths and science which is appauling.
it is not the merge that has caused the problem, it is ms johnson.
oasis academy lords hill is fine? soo why isn't mayfield?
maybe it is because lords hill have a DECENT HEADTEACHER which can COTROL situations.
i am very upset as these next two years are very important but we are not one of ms.johnsons main priorities...
joanna.
Treas
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2:13pm Tue 21 Oct 08
gob smacked wrote:As an ex-pupil of Woolston School, I was very saddened to hear the story. The school was a great facility in the area and gave ordinary kids from ordinary homes the opportunity to better themselves. This is a trajedy. Can you imagine the public outcry if one of our great national public schools was dismantled and merged? Woolston School was a great school by any criterion.The viking longship crest should be reinstated on the wall, and the school should be given back its autonomy, as the majority of parents and pupils want.
Woolston school was a nightmare before this happened, they didn't know their backside from their elbow. Comunication was terrible between teachers, and any help that was recommended from outside bodies was ignored. My child had a terrible time for over a year as he wasn't 'run of the mill', I'm not suprised its in the state it is now. I don't think it is right for the children to riot etc though, and I don't think it is exceptible for the parents to think it is right either! Perhaps if they taught self respect and respect for other people it might not be so bad. Threatning a teacher with a knife is terrible, I hope the parents didn't think this was justified!
Em_Lou
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2:15pm Tue 21 Oct 08
its not the parents who need to stop this, its the senior management! if the previous head was so good, why exactly did he have to leave and be replaced by this monsterous woman? I will admit i havnt had expericence of either the school or the senior staff but im still in a state of disbelief.
Its clear theres more than meets the eye and something needs doing, and soon.
vermin
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2:18pm Tue 21 Oct 08
No one should have to go to anywhere under a threat of violence, be it teacher or pupils.
I am sorry to read about the examples of bullying.
Jhon.sonater
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2:23pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Mad Max
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2:26pm Tue 21 Oct 08
joannaRwoolston wrote:it's a shame that these kids have got to the stage where they feel rioting is the only course of action left open to them, unfortunately it just ends up making them look bad and the villains of the piece....
i am in yr 10 now,and i go too oasis academy. ms.johnson you never listen to us pupils and we get so frustrated!! we have so many points which could help but we just get ignored! we are so fed up so we decided to cause a riot to show are frustration...it seemed at the time the only way to get your attention. last year, my results were excellent.but since i have been attending this acedemy my results have dropped low due to lack of learning facilities! i have not even been put into the right sets for my english maths and science which is appauling. it is not the merge that has caused the problem, it is ms johnson. oasis academy lords hill is fine? soo why isn't mayfield? maybe it is because lords hill have a DECENT HEADTEACHER which can COTROL situations. i am very upset as these next two years are very important but we are not one of ms.johnsons main priorities... joanna.
I have no links to this or any other school in Southampton anymore, but as I said earlier, if you are going to protest again, a whole school sit in is a far better option.... and to be honest, even the parents could come into the school and sit down outside the heads office until seen....
Peaceful protest is the key...
mckingsy
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2:31pm Tue 21 Oct 08
There is obvious a cover up somewhere and the weight of comments, and frustration would suggest the school and it's miss-management is at the root.
I think the comments about ex-teachers including a personal statement from one of these teachers
(Orry) perhaps reveals the true issue. All thosen slaging off the parents and blaming society should take off the blinkers and read. The truth would appear to be slightly more sinister....
I think the Parents of all the children at this "School" deserve an explanation from the Head Teacher (I'm not sure when teachers became management)
I believe that all citizens of this country have a right to trial/appeal - these exclusion were delivered a fait accompli end of story. What is Ruth hiding from?
The Echo need to stop reporting sound-bites and actually find out what happened here I for one want to know.
concernedmum
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2:43pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Pi.Face
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2:45pm Tue 21 Oct 08
i am surprised by some of the names of pupils excluded, mentioned my former colleague and mate Orry above. They are all hard working lads with great potential and I wish them all the best for the future.
As for the reported cancelled trips for coursework and lack of teaching staff mentioned. I know for a fact that there were at least 3 teachers who were willing to stay on but were told they were no longer required and interviews were arranged for some positions to be filled before being cancelled and candidates being told that the positions no longer existed or needed filling.
It is a real shame that the excellent, supportive atmosphere in the staff room that existed at Grove and created by Eric Freeman has been lost. Unfortunately it is now too late to turn the clock back and hopefully things will improve soon.
baz1
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2:51pm Tue 21 Oct 08
The kids are incidental-expel those who are "awkward" and let them bother someone else!EASY.
I speak from experience!!
Orry-exgrove teacher
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3:18pm Tue 21 Oct 08
john do
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3:42pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Pi.Face
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3:48pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Ruth Johnson can I urge you yet again just to listen, something that you have failed to do since getting the job in Jan. Listen to the advice previously offered by the former heads, to current staff, to the concerns of parents and most importantly the children, especially those with genuine concerns for their GCSEs. They have had enough of glib soundbites and being ignored and want to do how you are going to improve the situation, if you can before it is not to late for the upper school.
john do
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3:48pm Tue 21 Oct 08
southy
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3:57pm Tue 21 Oct 08
john do wrote:yes tell them to get back to grass roots what happens in schools its down to the staff not the perents,remind her that the buck stops at her,and if not working then she has to contact higher up and tell them that there new system is not working and not to blame the parents or kids,if they dont know how to control then they should be replace
from 2:20pm till 3:15pm i spent time in a meeting with Steve Chalk and Mrs. Hibbs(deputy principal). In this meeting we discussed many of the problems with the new academy and if u would like me to tell them something. please inform me, and i will bring it to Steve Chalks attention.
TaT
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4:38pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Can us parents call for a meeting with you please. So we can try to recover our confidence in the academy again.
The silence form you all, apart from the odd one sentance quote is too worrying for words.
The Parents want this acadmey to work for the sake of our children's future.
That is all we want, it isnt a lot to ask for, surely ?
wizzle
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5:36pm Tue 21 Oct 08
bitternedave wrote:Thats if you can get hold of them as its out of govement hands and they are an organisation unto them selves. I have hit every brick wall possible. I have managed to speak to anne beavill, but so far this has fallen on deaf ears also. Its just a bloody shambles.
With regard to the exclusion - there is a right to appeal to the Governing Body and then to an independent panel.
Educator
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5:58pm Tue 21 Oct 08
john do
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6:01pm Tue 21 Oct 08
TaT wrote:parents call call for a meeting if there is enough parents calling for one. you should tell your children to email mrs. Johnson at school off of the school email account or write a letter and give it to your child and get them to give it into student services. but the best way to get the school attention is by repeated emails.the school normaly has so many messages they dont get to the right person
Dear Mr Webster, if you are reading this, and all the Oasis management.
Can us parents call for a meeting with you please. So we can try to recover our confidence in the academy again.
The silence form you all, apart from the odd one sentance quote is too worrying for words.
The Parents want this acadmey to work for the sake of our children's future.
That is all we want, it isnt a lot to ask for, surely ?
john do
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6:02pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Educator wrote:yes your right 6 teachers are going and lots more are planning to go from the report yesterday
Yes parents do have the right to appeal to the Academy Council(Governing Body) but as the majority of people on this are employed by Oasis there will be little point.The previous Headteacher was not removed,he chose not to work for Oasis.Staff are desperate ,many are leaving now and at Christmas(teachers have to give a whole half-term's notice.)These are dedicated teachers who know the pupils well,the chaos will be even worse with yet more supply teachers
ally_m
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7:09pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Clearly the majority of parents want answers so Mrs Johnson if you are reading this may I suggest you find some time in your busy schedule to pull your finger out and call a meeting to explain how you are going to sort out the chaotic mess that is your school.
NICK PAYNTER
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7:33pm Tue 21 Oct 08
davesbabe
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7:37pm Tue 21 Oct 08
john do
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7:43pm Tue 21 Oct 08
NICK PAYNTER wrote:the best thing to do is get your child to keep on sending emails to mrs.Johnson and get a teacher on your side once you have done that you should get a response from senior management. she dose not respond to countless phone calls i don't know why but i have had a meeting with Steve Chalk today and a phone call from senior management concerning an email i sent the princable. just keep on emailing her
SIX DAYS LATER, WE STILL HAVE NOT HAD NO CONTACT WITH RUTH JOHNSON, NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES WE RING. AS A CONCERNED PARENT THIS CANNOT BE RIGHT. SHE NEEDS TO HAVE THE BALLS TO FACE THESE PROBLEMS THAT HAVE BEEN CAUSED BY HER AND THE OASIS MANAGEMENT. RUTH JOHNSON AND THE MANAGEMENT PRETENDS TO BE RELIGIOUS BUT THEY ARE UNFORTUNATELY THE LEAST FORGIVING PEOPLE AROUND. GUILTY!!!!!!
sebarcher
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7:44pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Mad Max
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7:48pm Tue 21 Oct 08
http://www.oasisacad
emymayfield.org/ques
tions_and_answers
hollywood gal
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7:51pm Tue 21 Oct 08
melonjuice
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8:01pm Tue 21 Oct 08
I don't think that the parents can do much to prevent the riots, its the children's choice if they want to potentially put there education on the line. (:
We do understand that its hard for the teachers to stop the children from doing such things, but sometimes if they just try & be more in control this sort of thing will never happen.
Also i think there was nothing wrong with the two schools as there was. They should have kept them the same. (:
WOOLSTON WE LOVE YOU.
NICK PAYNTER
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8:01pm Tue 21 Oct 08
NICK PAYNTER
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8:17pm Tue 21 Oct 08
wizzle
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8:27pm Tue 21 Oct 08
What does everyone else reakon.....questions need to be answered and moaning on here is not getting us any where!
john do
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8:37pm Tue 21 Oct 08
wizzle wrote:i would say hold a protest outside central hall St.Marys that is where the head of oasis Southampton is. its just a thought
I suggest that we make a date and get all parents to stand outside the school gates of the grove site or woolston site and demand to get Ruth Johnson out to explain herself.
What does everyone else reakon.....questions need to be answered and moaning on here is not getting us any where!
wizzle
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8:39pm Tue 21 Oct 08
john do wrote:Thats great, dont know how to organise it, but if set a date on here and ruth reads it, then she has no excuse not to be there!!!!!
wizzle wrote: I suggest that we make a date and get all parents to stand outside the school gates of the grove site or woolston site and demand to get Ruth Johnson out to explain herself. What does everyone else reakon.....questions need to be answered and moaning on here is not getting us any where!i would say hold a protest outside central hall St.Marys that is where the head of oasis Southampton is. its just a thought
I will be there.....anyone else?
Condor Man
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8:45pm Tue 21 Oct 08
What I don't like is the lack of accountability which is not unique to Oasis but all foundation schools like Upper Shirley High. It's government policy to devolve schools from LEA control, the Tories back it too. It will be interesting to see how selective foundation or academy schools become in the next few years. If you are a parent of a child with low attainment be wary.
Condor Man
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8:45pm Tue 21 Oct 08
What I don't like is the lack of accountability which is not unique to Oasis but all foundation schools like Upper Shirley High. It's government policy to devolve schools from LEA control, the Tories back it too. It will be interesting to see how selective foundation or academy schools become in the next few years. If you are a parent of a child with low attainment be wary.
asilryan
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8:47pm Tue 21 Oct 08
john do
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8:48pm Tue 21 Oct 08
wizzle wrote:well to do this protest it has to be organized, peaceful and highlighting to problems with the academy. and the appropriate people informed. all students , staff and parents must be informed after the data and time has been set and you must have the majority of the school on your side before you can take it any further. this protest should be a protest not a riot
john do wrote:Thats great, dont know how to organise it, but if set a date on here and ruth reads it, then she has no excuse not to be there!!!!!
wizzle wrote: I suggest that we make a date and get all parents to stand outside the school gates of the grove site or woolston site and demand to get Ruth Johnson out to explain herself. What does everyone else reakon.....questions need to be answered and moaning on here is not getting us any where!i would say hold a protest outside central hall St.Marys that is where the head of oasis Southampton is. its just a thought
I will be there.....anyone else?
wizzle
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8:50pm Tue 21 Oct 08
NICK PAYNTER wrote:Ruth.....you have managed to harm your so called good name yourself!!!! read all the above and wonder why?
Mrs Johnson added: “The actions I took last week give out a strong message that we will not tolerate any disruption which could harm my good name. This is almost an extract from the echo but doctored to be more accurate, anyway if the echo can print lies about the kids carrying bits of wood and smashing tv's, so can I.
john do
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8:51pm Tue 21 Oct 08
asilryan wrote:she only listens if you threaten to take legal advise. i did that and within that day i had a phone call say the problem that i brought to the schools attention will be sorted out promptly
Nearly all of yesterday's and today's comments are saying RUTH JOHNSON DOESN'T LISTEN. How about the Echo starts PRINTING some of these opinions. You are journalists, start searching for the truth.
wizzle
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8:52pm Tue 21 Oct 08
AngrySotonResident
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9:05pm Tue 21 Oct 08
john do
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9:11pm Tue 21 Oct 08
mad mum
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9:18pm Tue 21 Oct 08
!! Expelling someone without ever meeting them, without speaking to people who know them,(without having the decency to speak to the parents herself), but more importantly without interviewing them or giving them the chance to defend themselves!!!!!
THE LESSON HERE..doesnt matter if youre innocent, youre going to get the blame anyway son.
COME OUT OF YOUR OFFICE MRS JOHNSON AND SEE THE DAMAGE YOU ARE DOING TO YOUNG PEOPLES LIVES!
Change.Today
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9:53pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Furthermore, I suggest that those making comments support their evidence with correct punctuation and spelling along with a rather more supportive stance of the education system. After all, the youth of today are the employees of tomorrow. If you want lower pensions, then carry on parenting the way you have been for the last 15 years.
You parents, teachers and students, young adults and children out there that think that rioting is a valid solution should ask yourselves where has it gotten you? I don't recall adults asking children to do the dirty work for them. You are a bunch of wasting cowards.
If you have a solution then why aren't you offering it? If you want change, why can't you see that is what is happening and embrace it? If you want to save a school from Special Measures, why are you not encouraging your sons and daughters to work hard in class for their grades instead of supporting them acting up at school? Why, parents, do you not take such an active role in your child's education instead of shouting at the Head, look at yourselves. You should not be so proud until your children have the results they deserve. Since when do you ask a baby what they want to eat? The response will surely be aimed at the things the child enjoys, rather than what is good for it. Of course, as a parenmt, you need to know the difference between right and wrong.
I challenge you, parents, prove that you know and heal this dreadful rift that you are causing. You harp on about the identity of the community. What are you demonstrating to your sons and daughters?
I challenge you, students, to find a better way to work together to make the future that we all must live in. The adults of today have made such a bad job, our only hope is you. Make the right choices because we didn't.
I challenge you, teachers, do your job. If you can no longer do that, then get out. But think of the impact of your long faces in the classroom. Think of the impact of a fun lesson. tink of how you will feel when your student achieve the grades. If you have given up, what will the students do? Lead by example and stop being such bad ones.
I chjallenge you, Southampton, that Change is Good. Change today because tomorrow may be too late.
john do
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10:09pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Change.Today wrote:you say to people show your real name but you cant even do it so you are not setting a good exsample
I find it surprising that so many seemingly uneducated people are making grammatically incorrect comments on this sensationalised story. I also feel that parents who are unable to supply their names to comments made against a successful Head-Teacher who turned around Cantell School's results should be prepared to be identified, rather than issue cowardly, unfounded statements which merely display their ignorance.
Furthermore, I suggest that those making comments support their evidence with correct punctuation and spelling along with a rather more supportive stance of the education system. After all, the youth of today are the employees of tomorrow. If you want lower pensions, then carry on parenting the way you have been for the last 15 years.
You parents, teachers and students, young adults and children out there that think that rioting is a valid solution should ask yourselves where has it gotten you? I don't recall adults asking children to do the dirty work for them. You are a bunch of wasting cowards.
If you have a solution then why aren't you offering it? If you want change, why can't you see that is what is happening and embrace it? If you want to save a school from Special Measures, why are you not encouraging your sons and daughters to work hard in class for their grades instead of supporting them acting up at school? Why, parents, do you not take such an active role in your child's education instead of shouting at the Head, look at yourselves. You should not be so proud until your children have the results they deserve. Since when do you ask a baby what they want to eat? The response will surely be aimed at the things the child enjoys, rather than what is good for it. Of course, as a parenmt, you need to know the difference between right and wrong.
I challenge you, parents, prove that you know and heal this dreadful rift that you are causing. You harp on about the identity of the community. What are you demonstrating to your sons and daughters?
I challenge you, students, to find a better way to work together to make the future that we all must live in. The adults of today have made such a bad job, our only hope is you. Make the right choices because we didn't.
I challenge you, teachers, do your job. If you can no longer do that, then get out. But think of the impact of your long faces in the classroom. Think of the impact of a fun lesson. tink of how you will feel when your student achieve the grades. If you have given up, what will the students do? Lead by example and stop being such bad ones.
I chjallenge you, Southampton, that Change is Good. Change today because tomorrow may be too late.
NICK PAYNTER
says...
10:09pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Vonnie
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10:09pm Tue 21 Oct 08
It sounds very much as if you are not a parent. Change is only good when it is for the better. It is pretty obvious to anyone reading this forum that it has not been for the better - for anyone, parents, pupils, or teachers.
Max Holz
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10:11pm Tue 21 Oct 08
mad mum
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10:21pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Rob444
says...
10:24pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Change.Today wrote:One can only assume that the identity of Change.Today is none other than Mr. Oasis himself.
I find it surprising that so many seemingly uneducated people are making grammatically incorrect comments on this sensationalised story. I also feel that parents who are unable to supply their names to comments made against a successful Head-Teacher who turned around Cantell School's results should be prepared to be identified, rather than issue cowardly, unfounded statements which merely display their ignorance.
Furthermore, I suggest that those making comments support their evidence with correct punctuation and spelling along with a rather more supportive stance of the education system. After all, the youth of today are the employees of tomorrow. If you want lower pensions, then carry on parenting the way you have been for the last 15 years.
You parents, teachers and students, young adults and children out there that think that rioting is a valid solution should ask yourselves where has it gotten you? I don't recall adults asking children to do the dirty work for them. You are a bunch of wasting cowards.
If you have a solution then why aren't you offering it? If you want change, why can't you see that is what is happening and embrace it? If you want to save a school from Special Measures, why are you not encouraging your sons and daughters to work hard in class for their grades instead of supporting them acting up at school? Why, parents, do you not take such an active role in your child's education instead of shouting at the Head, look at yourselves. You should not be so proud until your children have the results they deserve. Since when do you ask a baby what they want to eat? The response will surely be aimed at the things the child enjoys, rather than what is good for it. Of course, as a parenmt, you need to know the difference between right and wrong.
I challenge you, parents, prove that you know and heal this dreadful rift that you are causing. You harp on about the identity of the community. What are you demonstrating to your sons and daughters?
I challenge you, students, to find a better way to work together to make the future that we all must live in. The adults of today have made such a bad job, our only hope is you. Make the right choices because we didn't.
I challenge you, teachers, do your job. If you can no longer do that, then get out. But think of the impact of your long faces in the classroom. Think of the impact of a fun lesson. tink of how you will feel when your student achieve the grades. If you have given up, what will the students do? Lead by example and stop being such bad ones.
I chjallenge you, Southampton, that Change is Good. Change today because tomorrow may be too late.
Such pedantry is quite misguided:
Change is Good?
In some cases it is and in others it is definitely not. Change from the silly idea of creationism to Darwinism would clearly be a good idea to the vast majority of educated people, whereas the change to ramming any particular religious doctrine down the throats of children is a very bad idea.
Whatever does chjallenge mean? It isn't in my spell checker.
Please be advised that it is the sentiment expressed in these parents', students' teachers' etc. comments that is important, not the spelling/grammar. These people are writing what they feel in their hearts.
saintblonde
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10:25pm Tue 21 Oct 08
wizzle wrote:How arrogant of Ruth Johnson to worry about HER "good name". It must be mainly her fault as someone rightly pointed out the other Oasis Academy seems fine!?
NICK PAYNTER wrote: Mrs Johnson added: “The actions I took last week give out a strong message that we will not tolerate any disruption which could harm my good name. This is almost an extract from the echo but doctored to be more accurate, anyway if the echo can print lies about the kids carrying bits of wood and smashing tv's, so can I.Ruth.....you have managed to harm your so called good name yourself!!!! read all the above and wonder why?
This woman seems to be more worried about herself than the children she is being paid a great deal of money to educate. She doesn't appear to have had a great track record and should be made to explain this shambles. If she continues to ignore parents, staff and most importantly the children she should be sacked! Funny, I haven't recieved any more feeble letters from the school regarding the overall chaos!? Wonder why? I bet her and the wretched Ann Milton would get on great. She didn't listen either.
NICK PAYNTER
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10:29pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Change.Today
says...
10:47pm Tue 21 Oct 08
And please accept my apologies for the lack of a spellchecker - it's hard submitting an intelligent rant from a mobile phone.
Of course they are writing from their hearts, but shouldn't they really be writing from their heads? Emotions aside, and logic upfront?
And since Darwinism has been brought up, I contest either strand of belief, since they are both theories; believe the one that's been around a whole 120yrs why don't you. Is that because you're well informed that you descended from apes? Or perhaps you are waiting for confirmation of that.
Change is what parents and students want, and if change happens overnight, then it is difficult to take, however necessary it is.
What this school is offering is a chance for a new start for the identity-ravaged areas of Woolston where schools have beaten each other to a pulp before. If you are content with that, then why don't you say so and admit to your wish for confrontation, and don't leave it to the ignorance of students to preach your lack of wisdom.
Of course change is hard. We become used to routine, just like the students get used to bad teachers, and bad teachers get used to lack of parental support, and bad parents get asbos.
Sort it out Southampton - make a new start, and by the way, you don't have to be a Christian to understand that there are some of the beliefs that really do have modern applications - like respect for your elders. In such a multi-faith community, we really ought to pull together and notice our similarities, not our differences.
The other Oasis Academy is probably working because parents and teachers aren't ****, but being supportive. Where's the unity in Southampton? I guess it's reflected in the community, so well done, you should be oh so very proud.
Change Today because Tomorrow is Too Late
Change.Today
says...
11:00pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Teachers that are leaving are doing so because they cannot cope, and possibly never have been able to, with change, progress, or students. They are doing the Academy a service by doing so.
Parents, I urge you to pull together. This Academy has been in place for just over a month. Have you really given it a chance?
Perhaps you should be angry with the Government initiatives, not the people carrying it out. It's the same as you knowing the right way to raise your children; would it be right for anyone to tell YOU how to do it?
The 20 or so people commenting here should realise that there are thousands that are not. It's a matter of perspective, and maybe, just maybe, you have it wrong.
Miss Change Today,
and regret it tomorrow
Orry-exgrove teacher
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11:05pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Orry-exgrove teacher
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11:08pm Tue 21 Oct 08
insider83
says...
11:08pm Tue 21 Oct 08
if people want to do something more constructive then steve chalk ( CEO of oasis Community learing and Howard Green ( director of education for Oasis) should here ur (constructive)critis
isms they are both contactable by email it is just there names ( as above but with a . in between first and last name) @oasisuk.org happy emailing people, pupils email too! this is ur future.
Rob444
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11:17pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Why on earth is he using a nom-de-plume? I was under the impression that he had the courage of his convictions and courted publicity.
Oh well, that's creationists for you, making it up as they go along, interpreting old folk stories as though they were fact. Just sheep really, with no minds of their own.
insider83
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11:21pm Tue 21 Oct 08
wilko
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11:27pm Tue 21 Oct 08
What Oasis seemed to spend the last year developing was the branding of the new school. Nothing at all to do with teaching and learning.
I can understand why the pupils and parents are frustrated because they have been let down, and the promises that have made have not been met. Individual needs of students appear to be being neglected, and students who I know would have made it through the school under the old management are now being permanently excluded.
With falling pupil numbers in the city it is obvious that change needed to be made, however if pupils are being let down then this change has clearly not been for the better.
Rob444
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11:40pm Tue 21 Oct 08
insider83 wrote:I agree with your reasoning 100 percent.
rob444 i dont really think that Mr Chalks choice of faith is the problem, being a Christian doesn't make someone bad at managing and organising... being a bad manager and organiser makes someone bad at managing and organising ! lol
I just happen to believe that brainwashing anyone, particularly children, is evil.
Teaching about various religions is fine, it is education, but needs to be done in an unbiased way. If parents choose to bring their children up in a particular faith then that's fine, bur schools (including academies) are not the place for such teachings.
Sunday schools and mosques etc. are the places for teaching Christianity, Islam, etc.
Apologies for causing any misunderstanding.
sholingmum
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11:44pm Tue 21 Oct 08
Vonnie
says...
12:44am Wed 22 Oct 08
Who says change is what parents and students want? Even if that were true, when change has happened, particularly without consent, and that change is not managed properly, as it obviously has not been in this particular case, then in no way can it be good or desirable.
Where is the unity in Southampton, he/she asks? You only have to read the comments on this forum and I think you will see unity.
I haven't seen one comment praising Ms Johnson as front of house manager (that is what she as Headmistress is,) or for Oasis itself for ignoring and not listening to parents and students; for pushing out expulsions without proper investigation; etc etc. If I treated my customers in such a high handed, arrogant, manner, I would very quickly have no business.
The school SHOULD be offering " a chance for a new start" but from what I have read it very obviously is not. That is just all so much treacly advertising puff.
"Logic up front" tells me that there is a obviously a problem with this amalgamated school and it won't go away just by ignoring it, and it won't be solved by individuals coming the high and mighty, patronising, Lord of the Manor, "we know what's best for you" attitude either.
Random23
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7:45am Wed 22 Oct 08
Neither of the sets of pupils signed up to this christian ethos, because we signed up to woolston school and grove park, not oasis academy.
Alex W.
NICK PAYNTER
says...
8:26am Wed 22 Oct 08
AngrySotonResident
says...
8:56am Wed 22 Oct 08
john do wrote:Boring!
Change.Today wrote: I find it surprising that so many seemingly uneducated people are making grammatically incorrect comments on this sensationalised story. I also feel that parents who are unable to supply their names to comments made against a successful Head-Teacher who turned around Cantell School's results should be prepared to be identified, rather than issue cowardly, unfounded statements which merely display their ignorance. Furthermore, I suggest that those making comments support their evidence with correct punctuation and spelling along with a rather more supportive stance of the education system. After all, the youth of today are the employees of tomorrow. If you want lower pensions, then carry on parenting the way you have been for the last 15 years. You parents, teachers and students, young adults and children out there that think that rioting is a valid solution should ask yourselves where has it gotten you? I don't recall adults asking children to do the dirty work for them. You are a bunch of wasting cowards. If you have a solution then why aren't you offering it? If you want change, why can't you see that is what is happening and embrace it? If you want to save a school from Special Measures, why are you not encouraging your sons and daughters to work hard in class for their grades instead of supporting them acting up at school? Why, parents, do you not take such an active role in your child's education instead of shouting at the Head, look at yourselves. You should not be so proud until your children have the results they deserve. Since when do you ask a baby what they want to eat? The response will surely be aimed at the things the child enjoys, rather than what is good for it. Of course, as a parenmt, you need to know the difference between right and wrong. I challenge you, parents, prove that you know and heal this dreadful rift that you are causing. You harp on about the identity of the community. What are you demonstrating to your sons and daughters? I challenge you, students, to find a better way to work together to make the future that we all must live in. The adults of today have made such a bad job, our only hope is you. Make the right choices because we didn't. I challenge you, teachers, do your job. If you can no longer do that, then get out. But think of the impact of your long faces in the classroom. Think of the impact of a fun lesson. tink of how you will feel when your student achieve the grades. If you have given up, what will the students do? Lead by example and stop being such bad ones. I chjallenge you, Southampton, that Change is Good. Change today because tomorrow may be too late.you say to people show your real name but you cant even do it so you are not setting a good exsample
I chanllenge you to hold a meeting, with you as chair and listen to the views of all the parents and students who were happy with two sites remaining without change and intervention of the Oasis acadamy.
A famous adage goes 'if it isn't broken then why fix it.' Well both schools were doing well without being interfered with by the education authority.
davesbabe
says...
11:46am Wed 22 Oct 08
Change.Today wrote:you need to check your own punctuation and grammer mate, stop being ridiculous!!, it doesnt matter about all that, we are trying to get an education for our children!, the principal is crap and we want shot of her, simple!!
I find it surprising that so many seemingly uneducated people are making grammatically incorrect comments on this sensationalised story. I also feel that parents who are unable to supply their names to comments made against a successful Head-Teacher who turned around Cantell School's results should be prepared to be identified, rather than issue cowardly, unfounded statements which merely display their ignorance. Furthermore, I suggest that those making comments support their evidence with correct punctuation and spelling along with a rather more supportive stance of the education system. After all, the youth of today are the employees of tomorrow. If you want lower pensions, then carry on parenting the way you have been for the last 15 years. You parents, teachers and students, young adults and children out there that think that rioting is a valid solution should ask yourselves where has it gotten you? I don't recall adults asking children to do the dirty work for them. You are a bunch of wasting cowards. If you have a solution then why aren't you offering it? If you want change, why can't you see that is what is happening and embrace it? If you want to save a school from Special Measures, why are you not encouraging your sons and daughters to work hard in class for their grades instead of supporting them acting up at school? Why, parents, do you not take such an active role in your child's education instead of shouting at the Head, look at yourselves. You should not be so proud until your children have the results they deserve. Since when do you ask a baby what they want to eat? The response will surely be aimed at the things the child enjoys, rather than what is good for it. Of course, as a parenmt, you need to know the difference between right and wrong. I challenge you, parents, prove that you know and heal this dreadful rift that you are causing. You harp on about the identity of the community. What are you demonstrating to your sons and daughters? I challenge you, students, to find a better way to work together to make the future that we all must live in. The adults of today have made such a bad job, our only hope is you. Make the right choices because we didn't. I challenge you, teachers, do your job. If you can no longer do that, then get out. But think of the impact of your long faces in the classroom. Think of the impact of a fun lesson. tink of how you will feel when your student achieve the grades. If you have given up, what will the students do? Lead by example and stop being such bad ones. I chjallenge you, Southampton, that Change is Good. Change today because tomorrow may be too late.
kein
says...
4:03pm Wed 22 Oct 08
ruth.johnson@oasisma
yfield.org
kein
says...
4:09pm Wed 22 Oct 08
Ruth.Johnson@oasisma
yfield.org
Random23
says...
5:22pm Wed 22 Oct 08
No is the simple answer. None of our points have been listened to. Isn't the point of a school to help us learn? Not to send us underqualified supply teachers for many lessons. Not to banish us from the field and certainly not to make us squash through the smallest of doors just to get out!
Change today, I challenge you to try and get your voice heard by Oasis, and if you are infact Steve Chalk, listen to us, the pupils, staff and parents and change the shambles of Oasis academy mayfield for the better.
Alex W.
Portswood Pete
says...
7:19pm Wed 22 Oct 08
wizard
says...
7:39pm Wed 22 Oct 08
oasisacademyparents@
gmail.com
we can then organise all these views and decide what action to take
Ex woolston student
says...
10:44pm Fri 24 Oct 08
mmmmm
says...
9:09am Sat 25 Oct 08
It's not Ruth Johnson's fault that she has been handed a school on a split site that decision was handed to her by the DFES, despite her pleas for portacabins on the GP site. Obviously the points raised in the last few days will reiterate her calls for alternative arrangements.
I was there last Thursday. The Echo has exaggerated the story in real tabloid style, something it has been criticised for quite heavily on these boards recently. There were no weapons, chunks of wood; I saw wires pulled from a plasma screen TV and two fire door hinges pulled down. Some paper was pulled down from display boards, but this has been going on for weeks by some individuals determined to cause unrest. What was inexcusable was a group of kids charging through a science prep room, surely they realise there are dangerous chemicals and glass in that area? There were about 40 kids involved, I saw 3 girls, the rest were boys. Not knowing names of some individuals as they are new to me, I cannot comment on whether or not the right kids have paid the price, ie been excluded.
There is absolutely no way Ruth Johnson was and I quote “Locked in the medical room” while it happened.
Yes, there are some teething problems, but the kids who want to be treated like adults could behave like adults and wait in an orderly fashion for their teachers to arrive, respect the environment and realise that we aren’t going to go back to the way it was, think ahead, and be positiv
cross of woolston
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10:44pm Sun 26 Oct 08
http://oasisacademyp
arents.info/index.ph
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