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    southy wrote:
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    Lone Ranger wrote: This pier is as embarassing as the joint efforts of ABP and the Council combined. . Both parties should be ashamed of this vile eyesore
    apb and apbj and council should be taken to court over it, and have it removed from there procession they have proven over and over again that they are not worthy to look after local heritage
    Knock the pier down. Improve Mayflower Park and build Dibden Bay. QED
    what and ruin the river for good,your the sort that will leave nothing but a dead smelly river for the generation yet to come. mayflower is ok has it is, theres no need to build dibden bay leave that to nature, royal pier rebuild a new one.
    Dibden bay was left to nature. It was reclaimed in the late 60's, early 70's. I'm sure you will dispute that and troll another load of drivel! I want my kids and their offspring to have jobs. Not live in a tree hugging pipedream
    reclaiming the bay started in the 50's and ended in the 80's. the last part that was filled in was the part where they built the marina in the 80's. then your best bit is to move if they are going to depend on dock movement. the relocation of container port operation has all ready started. southampton container port is to become a feeder port. the new container port on the west coast is going ahead, and the one on the east coast. my nephew has all ready been ask to look for new home near shell heaven if he wishes to stay with the company. they are even going to help out if he chooses to stay. and the chances of your off spring getting a job is going to be very slim. future technology is going to mean less people having jobs. has it stands today only 3 out off every 4 people is working, the forecast in 10 years time 2 out off every 3. and it just going to get worse has the years roll by.
    I'm on the side of 'Forest Hump'. Future generations require jobs in their home town's. If my children wanted a job here then so be it. Why should they have to move away from friends and family. Job's in Southampton just don't rely on shipments but also manufacturers who are moving away. If people like you had your own way then Southampton would be nothing more than a rat infested retail park. I say build on Dibden and bury the snobs in the concrete of the new port.
    There were people who thought that they had 'jobs for life' when the Esso opened up in 1951. People flocked from all over the country to take up the jobs on offer, and associated industries located in the area. Esso built recreation facilities for their workers, and everything looked rosy. The thousands on the work-force then has now been dramatically reduced to less than half, and continuing to reduce, and the recreation facilities are no longer solely for the use of their employees - if it were, they could probably have a room each. The industries that moved to the area have also reduced the number of their employees. Why would anyone think that a container port at Dibden Bay would 'buck the trend' and employ thousands with a 'job for life'? There is a greater prospect of long-term jobs by it becoming part of the New Forest National Park, where maintenance would not be reliant on the keyboard of a couple of computer operators. My bet is that ABP want to develop Dibden Bay, get so far and claim it is not viable, and then opt for a yachting marina - because that is where the money is. I wonder how many long-term jobs that would create.
    Sorry but I'm not on about the stone age when you were a youngster. Additional container port would bring along better transportation routes, warehousing, manufacturing and supply company's; as well as additional retail outlets and forwarders back to the area. The New Forest is only good for Dogging.
    Thanks for the supportive words Cygnus. Who mentioned "jobs for life" anyhow? I somewhat think there would be more than just "a couple of computer operators"? Still, some people are very naive. I'm also very puzzled about Southy's Nephew being asked to move to "Shell Heaven"? I guess it would have pearly gates?"
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Rotting Royal Pier "an embarrassment to Southampton"

A 30m section of the pier collapsed shortly before 10am yesterday.

A 30m section of the pier collapsed shortly before 10am yesterday.

First published in Royal Pier & Casino Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Feature Writer

THERE are renewed calls today for what’s left of Southampton’s Royal Pier to be demolished after part of it crashed into the sea yesterday.

The rotting wreck, which will be seen by one million cruise passengers visiting the city this year, was last night branded an “embarrassment”.

Pressure was today heaped on Southampton City Council and the pier’s owners, ABP, to pull down the derelict structure after 30 metres collapsed without warning.

Even the city’s heritage champions say it is beyond repair and have called time on the pier, which is now missing a large middle section.

But ABP, the port bosses, have refused to commit the estimated £3m needed to clear the 177-year-old former landmark.

They say it will only disappear when a developer signs up to transform the entire site into a luxury development.

Stunned onlookers watched the drama unfold shortly before 10am as they enjoyed the views from Mayflower Park.

“There were two enormous booms within just seconds of each other,” Christine Molyneux said.

“When I first heard it I thought someone must have detonated something.”

Two years ago, restaurateur Kuti Miah, left, spent £1.5m on renovating the pier’s abandoned old gatehouse into Kuti’s Royal Thai Pier,which was not affected by yesterday’s incident.

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The curry magnate yesterday described the pier as an embarrassing blight on Southampton’s prime waterfront location.

“It’s horrible and depressing.

It’s an embarrassing way to welcome cruise passengers to the city,” he said.

“Every one of my customers makes a comment about it.

They ask me when something is going to be done and I don’t have a clue.”

He added: “We have a fantastic waterfront, but nothing there. I’d like to see something even better than Portsmouth’s Gunwharf Quays.”

Opened in 1833, the Royal Pier had its hey-day before the First World War when it hosted dancing and concerts. In the 1960s the pavilion was extended and converted into a ballroom.

The ballroom was closed down in 1979 and its fate was sealed by two huge fires, one in 1987 and the other five years later, which ripped through the pavilion and decking.

Alan Jones, chairman of the Southampton Heritage Federation, said: “It holds fond memories for almost anybody over the age of 60. It would be sad to see it go, but there would be no point trying to restore it.”

Senior Tory councillor John Hannides agreed that the sudden collapse was an opportunity for ABP to take another look at the future of the pier.

“It’s very disappointing and comes as a surprise, even though we knew that it was in a poor state of disrepair,” said the Cabinet member for culture and heritage.

“This is maybe an opportunity for ABP to revisit its plans to knock it down. The council recognises there is a significant cost involved and that is why we are happy to leave it with ABP to make their assessment and to decide what to do.”

In 2007, port director Doug Morrison pledged that he would look at ways of removing the remains and replacing them with new moorings.

However, an ABP spokeswoman yesterday said the company was continuing to work with the city council to attract a builder to redevelop the entire site.

She said the section that collapsed did not pose a safety risk and that any debris which might cause a navigation hazard would be removed.

“The Royal Pier is part of a redevelopment plan the council are trying to market. These plans will probably entail the removal of the majority of the structure above and below the water,” she said.

● The sudden collapse happened just weeks after Southampton City Council invited developers to express their interest in transforming the Royal Pier district.

The 60-acre site, which is owned by the city council, the Crown Estate and ABP, could feature offices, hotels, restaurants, shops, luxury flats, marina, indoor arena and casino.

The council and other land owners are seeking proposals to ensure a permanent and improved site for the International Boat Show and better public pedestrian access to the waterfront.

It comes two-and-a-half years after the last plans collapsed due to the £20m cost of reclaiming the seabed to extend the site.

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